1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, single best Idea and 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: we welcome all of you. Of course, big big week 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: here earning start tomorrow. We'll have full coverage of the 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: major bank earnings and so much other news flow as well. 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: We thank Rob Carroll and particularly our Bloomberg meteorologist every 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: time he's on. I learned of the geography, the topology, 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: the weather of this disaster in l A great set 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: of guests today. We started early today with Stuart Kaiser, 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: a city group always looking at equities. Some enthusiasm there, 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: but then we talked to Stuart Kaiser about yield. 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: If you think of the term structure, we would say 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: the two year yield is about Fed policy. The third 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: year yield there's more about inflation. The tenure yield and 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: our view reflects more growth expectations. So the fact that 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: the tenure has moved, yes, it's a bit of a 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: risk because it's moved quick. You would be a lot 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: of that's coming from the growth side of things, payrolls 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: last week in particular, And in that sense it's not 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: necessarily as bad for equity markets as a lot of 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: people are concerned about. 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Stuart Kaiser, City Group and again looking at the equity market, 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: so you notice the pullback and maybe with a yield, 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: still some enthusiasm for earnings. And again we dive into 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: that earning season tomorrow, and not just about the banks. 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: It will be an eventful three four in even five 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: weeks as well. We talked to Stephen Stanley. He's at Santander. 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: He is an award winning economist, really really good at 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: the granular nature. Here's Stephen Stanley on the American economy. 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: I think that the economy is likely to be slower 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: in the near term, and I think the easy explanation 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: for that is that businesses are uncertain. We've got a 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: lot of policy questions to be resolved, and so I 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: think a lot of businesses that probably, even though they've 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: we've seen business optimism pick up, I think businesses are 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: sitting on the sidelines waiting to see So I think 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: for me, the first half of twenty twenty five should 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: be the slowest period, and then as we get certainty 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: on policy, I think things start to pick up again. 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: The question really is are we getting a slow down 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: in the labor market. Last Friday's numbers would say no. 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: You know, I would argue that we're still slowly seeing 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: job growth moderate. I do think the unemployment rate will 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: tick up a little bit in twenty twenty five, and 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: that gives the Fed a little bit of a reason 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: maybe to move closer to their view. 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: We're neutralists, Stephen stain there, and I really can't say 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: enough about oppression and talk less of is business investment. 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: The core equation is why or our output equals C 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: plus I plus G and then the trade on the 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: back end, so that's consumption plus investment plus the government 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: a part and then net exports as well, which is 52 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: exports minus imports. And all of this is important but 53 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: less talked about, particularly in financial media, is the eye 54 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: is investment? Off the top of my head, it makes 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: up I think it's eleven percent of the economy. Maybe 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: it's more. I stand corrected if I'm wrong, But Stephen 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: Stanley saying that's one of his wild cards for the 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: first half of twenty twenty five. What will be the 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: appetite of business to move forward in the first half 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: of the year. We thank you for your listen on 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: our morning commute and on YouTube. Subscribe to Bloomberg Podcast 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: on YouTube podcasts. 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