WEBVTT - Bruxism: Grinding Your Teeth Is the Pits

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know, a production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Y, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Bryant speaking to me today through clenched teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry is off um doing who knows what, but she's here,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is stuff you should know. That's probably right.

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<v Speaker 1>She's ministering to the um those in need. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to that. Yes cha, I was just about

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Chuck your Brooks or b r u x

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<v Speaker 1>e er, which is a great word, um imprint at

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<v Speaker 1>least and Brooks are it's all right out loud too,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But um, I really don't think we can

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<v Speaker 1>start this episode any other way aside from how this

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff works article kicked it off. Okay, okay, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, when we're trying to figure out what bruck

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<v Speaker 1>is um is. No, it's not a strange new religion

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<v Speaker 1>or the latest exercise crazy to come out of l A.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the complicated medical term for the simple act of

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<v Speaker 1>grinding your teeth in l All those wacky exercise trends,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, strange new religions with X is in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of them that make you give them all your money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bruck is um uh, teeth grinding. I'm a tooth grinder,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've had like serious dental work from that, right?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, did you grind? Because we should probably tell

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<v Speaker 1>everybody there's really two big categories of grinding teeth. One

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<v Speaker 1>is daytime grinding and the other is nighttime grinding. And

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<v Speaker 1>nighttime grinding is way more intense. So were you a

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<v Speaker 1>nighttime grinder and currently both? Oh you still are? Oh yeah, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And then, um, do you when you're a nighttime grinder

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<v Speaker 1>doing your grinding thing? Do you wake Emily up? Uh? No,

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<v Speaker 1>she sleeps pretty soundly, okay, because from what I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not hard to actually wake the person sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>in bed with you up from grinding your teeth that loudly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's how that's how loud it gets from how

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<v Speaker 1>much pressure you're exerting on your poor teeth, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard. I've never recorded myself. I've thought about doing that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they have those apps I think that are

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<v Speaker 1>will trigger by sound or whatever to record. Sure, busy,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got I need to get brouxy going, right. But

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<v Speaker 1>I am one of possibly of Americans that are bruxers,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, there's a lot of people. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>surprising amount to me. I did not think it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that high. Yeah, and I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's I only know my experience. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was reading through this, it was just triggering

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<v Speaker 1>me all over the place because from grinding to nashing

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<v Speaker 1>to clinching to t m J and TMP like I've

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<v Speaker 1>got it all. Do you really have TMD? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds really bad. Yeah, it's just I'm a mess. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of getting botox for TMD? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so, you know botox. It's from batulin and it

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<v Speaker 1>it um paralyzes the nerves temporarily, but for a really

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<v Speaker 1>long time, like months. Um. You get it in your jaw,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and it relaxes the jaw muscles. Actually interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder while they're in there, I can get this cocoon

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<v Speaker 1>under my eyeball taken away. You you have a cocoon

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<v Speaker 1>under there? Yeah, it looks like a butterfly is about

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<v Speaker 1>to sprout from this sleeping badge under my eye. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's as a lot of character. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you should change do anything like that. No, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about any cosmetic things. Good good, you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking good man, Thank you. I can't even see you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you're looking good. Yeah, and well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll I'll chat about my experience throughout this. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do have I had been fitted for a a mouth guard,

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<v Speaker 1>which I do not wear and I should. Yeah. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's there's a it's supposed to be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of helpful, but I also saw that it can actually

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<v Speaker 1>make you brocks. I guess that'd be the verb, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you brucks more sometimes. Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the deal with the mouth guard is is it

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<v Speaker 1>just provides a barrier between your teeth, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop you from grinding um or clinching or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's no there's no tooth on tooth the sexiest contact, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like um giving condoms to teenagers. It's been demonstrably,

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<v Speaker 1>irrefutably proven that it makes them have sex when they

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise wouldn't the same thing with a mouth guard. You

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't even grind your teeth, but you put a

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<v Speaker 1>mouth guard on and you're gonna grind, you know. We

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<v Speaker 1>get an alarming amount of emails from people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand your I don't even know what you call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not sarcasm humor. Sure, we can just throw it

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<v Speaker 1>under the well. No, I mean when you say something

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<v Speaker 1>and you're totally kidding, but you're just being deadpanned about it.

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<v Speaker 1>People by by that, Yeah, they catch on eventually, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>or they don't and they think you're a monster. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's get into this, okay. Because I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>much about teeth grinding. I do grind teeth, but not

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<v Speaker 1>to a clinical degree. UM, So I didn't know quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this. But I I came across this

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<v Speaker 1>article that was written by an n y U dental

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<v Speaker 1>student named Jordan's Mashkevich. No, yeah, Mashkevich, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>nailed it out of the park. Sounds like a dental

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<v Speaker 1>student from n y U if I've ever done. I

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<v Speaker 1>just came across this paper. I don't, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember what how I searched it, but um, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it had some really interesting stuff in there. And the

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<v Speaker 1>way that um possibly by now Dr Mashkevich put it

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<v Speaker 1>um that as we understand brucks is um it occurs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cyclical, so it starts out and it follows a

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<v Speaker 1>distinct pattern, and then it kind of crests intensifies, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it wanes, it goes away, and then the cycle

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<v Speaker 1>eventually starts up again. And so that these these cycles

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<v Speaker 1>can happen in clusters. So your actual like attack of

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<v Speaker 1>brucks is um might only last somewhere in the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>of like four to fifteen seconds. I think that's on

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<v Speaker 1>the low end. But when you have a bunch of them,

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<v Speaker 1>these different attacks, these cyclical attacks, and a cluster, it

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<v Speaker 1>can add up to quite a bit over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of your your sleepy time. Yeah. I mean, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>grinding for fifteen seconds and then taking off six or

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<v Speaker 1>eight seconds and then grinding again, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the distinction is. You just take a little

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<v Speaker 1>little break, a little break. Yeah, your brain is like

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<v Speaker 1>this is too much even for me, because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's constantly grinding, right, So no, apparently that it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's an increase in it and then it's

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<v Speaker 1>like gets really really bad and then it stops and

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<v Speaker 1>then it starts to slowly to to build again. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what makes it cyclical and building is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>also associated with an increase in heart rate and brain waves. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're so you're grinding your teeth, your heart is

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<v Speaker 1>going faster, and your your brain is working over time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I guess it all just kind of crests

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<v Speaker 1>and goes away for a little while. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we said the I mean, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all the reasons this can be pretty bad. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>exerting a lot of force, up to two d pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure per square inch, and that is not like

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<v Speaker 1>even when you're chewing something super tough, for like saltwater

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<v Speaker 1>taffy or something, it's like ten times the force that

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<v Speaker 1>you use to chew food. Dude, saltwater taffy is so great.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a big fan. I really am a big fan.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one of those things where as I've gotten older,

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<v Speaker 1>I've realized that some of this, like old time candy,

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<v Speaker 1>like Nugat just plain old Nugat great, like it was perfected,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've perfected candy in a lot of ways a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago, and you overlook it now just because

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<v Speaker 1>it's been around for so long in favor of like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a watching McCall it or some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go go candy bar today. But there and there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with watching McCall it's probably my favorite modern candy bar.

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<v Speaker 1>But saltwater, taffy, nugat, stuff like that. It's it's it really.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been around for this long for a reason, I guess. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you love the candies that you can get for a

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<v Speaker 1>nickel by reaching your hand into it. Well you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that kind of thing anymore, but by reaching your

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<v Speaker 1>hand into a big germ bucket right full of discarded

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<v Speaker 1>candies from children. Sure, but but they're individually wrapped, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm safe. You know, when a Little Bit Sweets used

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<v Speaker 1>to love us, They used to send us that Newgat.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, now that I think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the people who introduced me to Newgat. Straight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of those care packages of theirs. They

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<v Speaker 1>they introduced us to Newgat and Honeycomb candy. Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't they like us anymore? I don't know. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to get in touch with the Liz and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up. Yeah, hint hint, Yeah, well we just did.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were saying two hundred pounds of pressure. I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's per square inch. Um. I saw up to

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty pounds of pressure per square inch. That's about

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<v Speaker 1>ten to forty times what you would exert normally when

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<v Speaker 1>you're chewing. And as you can imagine, like your poor

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<v Speaker 1>teeth can only take so much. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure, it's the pressure combined with the grinding motion,

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<v Speaker 1>right that can really wear down the old enamel. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw something like ten times faster than somebody who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>grind their teeth while they sleep. Yeah, So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that introduces yet another problem. So not only will it

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<v Speaker 1>make your teeth, you know, wigglier and uh and just

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<v Speaker 1>they can crack, they can fracture, you can wear them

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<v Speaker 1>down to stumps. You get rid of that enamel, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and then you're you know, just ready to

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<v Speaker 1>get a cavity. Plus your nerves can be exposed. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever got a root canal? Uh? Shockingly no,

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<v Speaker 1>I have three fake teeth, but I've never had a

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<v Speaker 1>root canal. They are not fun. Yeah, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't even quite know what it is, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I got So they go in and they actually remove

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<v Speaker 1>the nerve at the at the base of the tooth like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just they can take the nerve out so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any sensation right there anymore, which is good

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<v Speaker 1>because by the time you need a root canal, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to ever feel anything ever of any kind.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got one once by this guy over in Brookhaven,

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<v Speaker 1>and he apparently is a master at root canals, because

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<v Speaker 1>every den I've been to since then, this is years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>has commented on like, what an amazing canal that guy did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell years later, I guess so, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I still get comments on it. Whenever I go to

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<v Speaker 1>a new dentist and they take X rays, they're like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really great root canal. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the grocery store parking lot that fixes your

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<v Speaker 1>dent when you shop. Not really, he doesn't do that

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<v Speaker 1>good of a job. I think the words root canal,

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<v Speaker 1>just the combination of those two words is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>top tenor for just most loathed combinations of words. That moist,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's just one word. Oh combination of words um,

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<v Speaker 1>moist anything, yeah, moist, underline, moist size, how about that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty bag Uh. They did a little survey with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Dental Society, which is a real swinging club,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found six of those dentists said that they

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<v Speaker 1>are hearing about all clenching being sort of an increasing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when this was written, but um, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>it's bruxism is on the rise, as is stress. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're saying. That they correlate it to stress

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<v Speaker 1>and adults, and they think that it's basically as simple

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<v Speaker 1>as that. There's a lot of other things that can

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<v Speaker 1>cause bruxism, as we'll see, but stress seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>the number one driver of teeth grinding in grown ups.

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<v Speaker 1>And as stress increases in our modern watchuma call it

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<v Speaker 1>type world. Um, bruxism is increasing as well, which is sad.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's also like, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>then there's real hope for this. It's not like you

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<v Speaker 1>have some biological short circuit in your brain that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to go get like mot of surgery to cure,

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<v Speaker 1>to correct or cure. You're just riddled with anxiety, right exactly. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think we've officially pointed out or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you did, that grinding is that back and forth motion

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<v Speaker 1>and clinching is just sort of just locking your teeth

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<v Speaker 1>together and you know, as if you're biting on ah

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<v Speaker 1>irresistible saltwater taffy, so with clinching too. That seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be more associated with daytime bruxism than nighttime bruxism. And

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing about daytime bruxism, so bruxism is considered

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<v Speaker 1>a para functional habit is what it's called, like um,

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<v Speaker 1>chewing on pen caps or biting your fingernails or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It's like it doesn't serve a good purpose

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<v Speaker 1>for like you're you're not breathing or eating or drinking,

0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.480
<v Speaker 1>so you're doing other stuff with your mouth. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>it a para functional habit. But the thing about it

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<v Speaker 1>is during the daytime, it's unconscious whether you're you're doing

0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.880
<v Speaker 1>nighttime bruxism or daytime bruxism. But in the day you

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<v Speaker 1>can stop and be like, oh, I'm clenching my teeth

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<v Speaker 1>and stop yourself from doing it, so it's involuntary, but

0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it's also unconscious. When you're asleep, you're probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to wake yourself up, so you're going full bore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I try and catch myself during the

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<v Speaker 1>day when I clinch, and I find it happens a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>What I've started doing. I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 1>a conscious effort or not, but I've started widening my

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<v Speaker 1>tongue between my teeth. Kind of not at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of the time if my mouth is shut,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my my tongue in between my teeth. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to prevent that, like in the front or on

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<v Speaker 1>the side, kind of all over. Man, So you're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of constantly moving it. No, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you fatten that tongue out and it are you doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite a talent. No, I can't do it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>impressed really with your tongue. Look, oh yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can, And I should point out to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the history of my fake teeth are well

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<v Speaker 1>chronicled on the show, and I've talked about why. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just from grinding like I've always been in

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<v Speaker 1>my fingernails and that pressure forward you know, on the

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<v Speaker 1>front of your teeth is no good. And I've got

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<v Speaker 1>shallow roots and sort of a host of things that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of led to those those teeth not working out

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Let me let me ask you this Um,

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<v Speaker 1>where either of your parents bruxers? I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I don't know. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care to ask at this point. I couldn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up. I mean, maybe I could, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like that would satisfy me in any way. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is they think that it's an inherited trait

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently your chances of broux ing are way higher

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<v Speaker 1>if your parents are bruxers. But like, do I need

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing to blame on my parents? Right? Exactly? Old,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, So just just chalk it up to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're a young woman who smokes. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>you got it from. Because women are three times more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to Brooks, and smokers are five times more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to Brooks. Right, Smokers people who drink heavily UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that they attribute to dehydration. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. This one is what reveals the weirdness of

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<v Speaker 1>all this to me. So your body becomes dehydrated um

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, and when you're dehydrated, a whole cascade

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<v Speaker 1>of stressors just kind of take place in your body. Right. Um.

0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>It can trigger allergies and can trigger inflammation. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>not a good jam for your body to be dehydrated.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is is what your body does in response

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<v Speaker 1>is make you grind your teeth, like they've shown, like

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<v Speaker 1>you grind your teeth more when you're dehydrated. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, that raises the big basic question that

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anybody answer. Um, like why why? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would you grind your teeth? What kind of a weird

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<v Speaker 1>physiological response is that two things like stress, whether emotional

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<v Speaker 1>stress or physical stress. It's a very bizarre thing for

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<v Speaker 1>your body to be like, oh, que the cue the

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<v Speaker 1>teeth grinding, let's get rid of some of the stress. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, I think you could file

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things I'm about to say under that

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<v Speaker 1>same weird category of why. But the same reason you

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<v Speaker 1>might tap your foot when you're nervous, or the same

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<v Speaker 1>reason you might clench your fist if you have anxiety. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're just your body's responses to anxiety. They

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<v Speaker 1>come out in these little weird physical ticks. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that makes sense. But to me, they're still

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<v Speaker 1>like you can still keep walking back to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why teeth grinding? Why why clenched fits? Like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we get from it? The closest I've seen to an

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<v Speaker 1>explanation is it's a stress reliever. And I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, like, maybe my question is where along the

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<v Speaker 1>way in our evolutionary history did teeth grinding become the

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<v Speaker 1>response rather than like, you know, blinking um in an

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<v Speaker 1>alternating sequence really fast? You know, like why teeth grinding?

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<v Speaker 1>Because ultimately grinding your teeth produces more tension and more

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<v Speaker 1>stress concentrated in your jaw. It doesn't get rid of it,

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<v Speaker 1>It just basically concentrates it into one painful area. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one might say that one reason is because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a silent form of releasing that anxiety. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>you can do in a business meeting, something you can

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<v Speaker 1>do in church or wherever you might feel really stressed out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do primal screen therapy in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a tense meeting. Um. But I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a man of science. You want to know the

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<v Speaker 1>pathways of satisfaction that are that are happening there. I

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<v Speaker 1>think yes, because that is the pathway to my satisfaction understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we take a break? Yes? All right? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go grind for thirty seconds and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh how you feeling now? That was great? So it

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<v Speaker 1>was a stress reliever for you. I'm not stressed right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well except for everything in my life that's super stressful. Yeah,

0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>we got a lot going on, lot going on. We

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:12.440
<v Speaker 1>have a book that we're working on. Yeah, that's has

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<v Speaker 1>at times been stressful. It has, but it also has

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<v Speaker 1>been fun. Like I'm really proud of how it's coming together. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great, it's fun, but it's uh, it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're all working from home now with a five year old,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have half as much time and twice as

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<v Speaker 1>much work. Enjoy it. This will be a fun process.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, we're coming up on the The finish line

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.640
<v Speaker 1>is in sight. Yeah, for sure. And it's been more

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<v Speaker 1>fun lately for me, which is good. Good. I'm glad.

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 1>And what's that book called? Oh oh are we plugging in? Um?

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>It's called Stuff you should Know, Cole, And you always

0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.199
<v Speaker 1>make me say that Part two an incomplete compendium of

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<v Speaker 1>mostly interesting things. That's right. And you can pre order

0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>now and you get a little pre order gift and

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>if you have questions of out whether or not you

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 1>get a pre order gift with the audio book, or

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>whether where you can get as signed edition. We're trying

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to get answers to that stuff. We're new at this, Yeah,

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 1>we're brand new. Yeah we're green, we're green authors. Yes. Um. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we were talking about some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>cause bruck is um that they've definitely shown, and again,

0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.120
<v Speaker 1>no one has ever explained why bruck is um, just

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<v Speaker 1>how bruxism I guess, yeah, Like any kind of sleep

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>disturbance can do it. I mean there's you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>already talked about anxiety and stress, that's sort of that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be the go to for doctors. But any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sleep disturbance, if you are on some weird

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<v Speaker 1>bed in a hotel that is uncomfortable to you, that

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<v Speaker 1>might cause you to to clench up during your sleep.

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Weird things like that. Yeah, if your bite doesn't form

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<v Speaker 1>um symmetrically, I guess is the word to you? You actually,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's called malclusion. And there's all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really as this, but there's all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to correct it, including shortening your jaw, which I'm like, Okay,

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 1>we don't have hover cars, but we have surgery that

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<v Speaker 1>can shorten somebody's jaw. I'm impressed. Right, Um, did you

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:17.400
<v Speaker 1>get that done? No? I considered having surgery at one

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<v Speaker 1>point where they break your jaw and realign it and

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<v Speaker 1>then wire it shut. Um, but there was never a

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<v Speaker 1>great time to do it because I have a job

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<v Speaker 1>where I run my mouth for a living, right uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And it just I don't know, it got to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I got to a certain age Ross like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I just don't think I want that surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll live with my misaligned jaw and my t MJ

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<v Speaker 1>and my TMD. Man. I hope you get the last

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<v Speaker 1>part worked out. Thanks, so um, maybe it'll just magically

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>clear up when we're not podcasting any longer. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>never know, so uh, I remember you talking about getting

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<v Speaker 1>a surgery, and that kind of jogged my memory. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I didn't know you ever got it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably couldn't wire your jaws shut, just fling just

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<v Speaker 1>then you'd see you go. Should we talk work? Yeah,

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it would be kind of weird. Now people don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that for like sixty eight weeks or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, right, man, the soup though. Yeah, it probably

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<v Speaker 1>dropped the good wait, drink it to a straw. Yeah,

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but I mean there's there's some good soup out there.

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Grinded a cheeseburger, yeah, you could into soup. God. So

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<v Speaker 1>I saw another thing, thanks to presumably doctor um Mashkevich's article,

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<v Speaker 1>that they have connected teeth grinding to parasitic worm infections.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeah, And I was like that, I that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound right at all. I went and looked, and yeah,

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a definite like um, like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>papers dating back to the seventies where they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like if you have pin worms or hookworms,

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<v Speaker 1>they directly cause teeth grinding. Weird. I know that certain

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.679
<v Speaker 1>psychiatric meta since can and antidepressants and stuff could cause it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the side effects sometimes could be

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<v Speaker 1>co morbid with sleep apnea, which I've had people right

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<v Speaker 1>in and say, hey, Chuck, check about sleep apnea because

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you have dreams about breathing water. That doesn't sound fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I don't think I have sleep apnea though, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I'll get tested for that one day too. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One other thing though about parasitic worms is actually correlates

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.439
<v Speaker 1>to something else that's mentioned in this article, which is

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>allergies can kick it off. And remember they think that

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<v Speaker 1>parasitic worms has to do with either an increase in

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>allergies or decrease in allergies or something. But they think

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>that it's tied with allergies, So that would explain why

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it kicks off. Teeth grinding. Yeah, and I don't think

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>we said that. You may not even realize that you're

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<v Speaker 1>a brucks are I do because of my my history,

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I think a lot of people don't even

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>lies they're gnashing their teeth in their night. You may

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>wake up with a sword jaw and I wonder what

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>was going on. Think you might have slept on your

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>face funny or something. But a dentist can help diagnose

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that for sure, if you go in and say, hey, uh,

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>something's going on here. Yeah, yeahs bitz. Yeah. If you

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>live alone or you're not grinding your teeth enough to

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>um wake up your partner, Yeah, there's there's gonna be

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like little signs or whatever. But if you don't start

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to it, you might not notice it unless

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a bad case. If it's a bad case. You're

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna notice because your teeth are starting to crack and

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<v Speaker 1>chip and wear down. And even if you don't notice that,

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>your dentist is gonna be like I think you grind

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>your teeth, and that might be the first person to

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>tip you off. Yeah, swollen gums. That could also be

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a little tip um. You know, mine sort of happened

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>all at once with the job, like I've always had

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a bad bite, uh in. Two rounds of braces did

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 1>not cure it. Oh man, So I've got sort of

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a it's not quite an underbite, but you know, my

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>my top my bottom teeth of my top teeth are

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>aligned instead of having an overbyte. Right. And I remember

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>distinctly when I started having these problems, like ten or

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.400
<v Speaker 1>twelve years ago, and I would tell Emily and said,

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it feels like my lower jaw is from someone else's

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>body all of a sudden, huh, Like it just doesn't

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:24.239
<v Speaker 1>fit anymore. And that's the easiest way I could describe it.

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>And it just kind of happened like suddenly, or you

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>noticed it like in a short time started noticing it

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 1>over a shortish span ten or twelve years ago. I

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>remember one time I was singing in the band for

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>band night one time, and I had my mouth open,

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>singing like, you know, if I might say so pretty powerfully,

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and something popped like I felt something almost like come unhinged.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>And it got worse after that. So I don't know

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.719
<v Speaker 1>what that was all about. Was that during your famous

0:26:55.760 --> 0:27:01.360
<v Speaker 1>cover of Maria, Yes it was or oh Holy night?

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh we didn't change those for our closer so um.

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Another sign that you might have bruck is um is

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>if you wake up and you like the inside of

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>your cheeks hurt because there have been rubbed draw off

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 1>from the getting caught up in the bruck s ng

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>uh huh. Yeah, that's that's when it will be particularly bad.

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>You might also wake up with um bite marks from it,

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, not like you can see it, but you

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>can definitely feel those. I went through a little period

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>where I was biting, like where my canines are? You know,

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I have like vampire canines, And I don't know. It

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>was almost like what you were just describing, like all

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, my my bite or my jaw or

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>something just changed. And for like a month or two,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I was biting this one part of my lip oor

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>right corner and um, it was happening a lot and

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>then finally it went away. No idea what happened, but

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just glad it it cleared up. Yeah. I'm a

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>side sleeper sort of side slash chest sleeper, and I

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>will tuck a pillow up under my arm and face

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>as well as the one I'm laying on with my head,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and I think that has contributed to sort of misaligning

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>my jaw. And I looked online and sure enough, there

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>are t MJ pillows I think to help thwart that.

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen like some of like the I think

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Casper makes one, there's one by Avocado. Um, they're they're

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>basically like anti snoring pillows. M I don't know. It

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>lifts your head up so that your head's not going downward,

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>which helps you, um helps it like keeps your your

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>airway from being obstructed and hence snoring less. I can.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It actually works really well. I'm a bit of a

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>snorer and they they've cured it. I know you do.

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Were like the three stooges, uh and on. Since we're

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>on the pillow front to the other thing that I

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>do is I sleep with my arm kind of under

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>my head. You know and under my pillow Like I don't.

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I never know what to do with my arms as

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>a side sleeper, and that has you know, sometimes I

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>wake up in my arm will be numb from just

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>being in a weird position. But they have these pillows

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.719
<v Speaker 1>now that that lift you up a little bit and

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>have a little a little hatch there where your arm

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>fits through. What. I haven't gotten one of those yet,

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>but I'm looking into it. Wow, it's amazing. The sleep

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>product industry, and I'm not talking about mattresses is just

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>ridiculously dents, you know, dents like memory phone. Yeah, I

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>love a good memory phone. So so talking about you're

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about TMJ and t MD. From what I saw,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>TMJ is the name of the joint and TMD is

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the name of the disorder of the stuff hanging around

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that joint. Is that correct? Well, I've always heard it

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>called a t MJ disorder. They may have just shortened

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that to t MD. Okay, Yeah, I've always heard t

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>MJ two I've I've I haven't even heard it called

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>t MJ disorder, just t MJ. But from what I

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>can tell is everybody's been getting wrong all these years

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that t MJ is the joint not the disorder. Yeah,

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Like if you say I have t MJ, They're like, yeah,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>everyone's got a temporo mandibular joint jerk, right, big whoop.

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, t MJ disorder. I think it's just become

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that's shorthand. But yeah, I think

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>t m D is inflammation of that joint. Uh. And

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you know that that can affect kind of your whole face.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It can spread around to the other muscle and tissue

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 1>pain swelling. We talked about swelling a lot, inflammation swelling.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of the key to good health is keeping

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that down. That seems to be like what science is

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>starting to figure out first all about inflammation, isn't it.

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it seems like, um, there's also clicking

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and popping that comes along with it too, which is

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>not fun either, not necessarily because it hurts. It's just

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>distressing psychologically, like you get worried, like, oh man, is

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>this next time you gonna is my jaws is gonna

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>stay open? Yeah? Because isn't lockjaw like a potential outcome

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>of TMD? I don't know, I don't know anything about lockjaw.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Is that maybe it's like a fleet circus is just

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that was made up, but everybody

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>started to think it was I thought lockjaw came around

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>because uh uh tetanus or whatever. Oh, yeah, you're right,

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you're right, you're right. It's like an infection. I forgot

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>about that. And I think it's just it's not your

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>jaw locking up. It's just a weird name for it. Oh.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought, like your jaw like stayed open. Well, I

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>think it can, cause it can cause muscle contractions in

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>your jaw. So maybe that is where the name comes from.

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's from like and I'm speaking out

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>of my butt right now, but I think it's from

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like a bacterial infection and this is why you get

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>TETNA shots. Yes, but that's weird that it would focus

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>on your jaw muscles, you know, pretty specific. It is

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a mystery. Um, you want to take a second break

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and then come back and talk about kids and getting

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>rid of this stuff too. Okay everyone, we'll be right back.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Wh Okay. So everybody knows adults are super angry. Not

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to be looked squarely in the eye easily set off

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, and that that explains teeth grinding

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and adults mostly um that a M d M A.

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>With kids, it's a totally different story depending on the age.

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>And actually kids tend to grind their teeth um almost

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of course. They found that of babies

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>grind their teeth, but they do it typically when they're teething,

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>which makes a lot more sense. Although grinding like your

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>gums as the teeth are just breaking through is like

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like nails down a chalkboard to me, like that, yeah, yeah,

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like moist. I mean, I gotta say, there is something

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>very creepy about a baby locking down on your pinkie

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>before the teeth are in, but those teeth are right behind.

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>That's that gum skin, right, It's very weird. It's very creepy.

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>It's nothing cute about it. Uh. If your baby, you

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>might also grind your teeth because your top and bottoms

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>aren't aligned as of yet, or like allergies like you

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 1>were talking about, if they're congested. Um, the same and

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>with adults it could be a sign of allergies or something. Yeah. Again,

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>allergies produce inflammation, which produces teeth grinding, which is the

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>key to the existence of life in the universe. I

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>think if you are lot older and you're not like

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a toddler, then it may be stress. It maybe um,

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>just that kid anxiety which is super sad. Yeah, you might.

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>You might have like a trouble at school or um,

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>if your family just moved or something like that. It

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>might produce teeth grinding. It might also make you eat

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>entire ten packs of twigs in one sitting after school. Um,

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the two outcomes. Yeah, not speaking from experience

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>or anything, just speaking in generality. By the time, I

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 1>think they say not to worry about it too much.

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 1>If your kid is grinding their teeth before they're seven

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 1>or eight years old, um, after between seven and eight

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and twelve is usually when it'll go away, once they

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>get those big, weird looking adult teeth that are still

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>in that kid's head. Yeah, and a big old attitude

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>to accompany. Yeah, no kidding. But if you're kid is

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like over seven or eight years old and they're still

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>grinding their teeth, you might want to go see a dentist.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>And they might say, go see a therapist. Yeah, why not, Frank,

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, or whatever their name might be. That's right,

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Frank the chair therapist. So, Um, the because it's so

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>prevalent and because it clears up on its own, you're

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>not going to treat your kids bruck is um, like

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you were saying, if it is pretty bad, though, your

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>doctor might be like, let's get a mouth guard, and

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.439
<v Speaker 1>the mouth guard might help, probably will help. It won't

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>keep him from doing it. But um, one of the

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 1>other things that I saw, like, if your baby does

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>grind his or her teeth, Um, one of the problems

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that can have, which is probably why you would want

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to treat it, is that it can keep them awake

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>at night, which makes them cranky during the day. So

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I could see wanting to treat teeth grinding, especially if

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>it starts to become even remotely an issue. Although you're

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 1>not you don't have to. I could see treating it

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>if it starts affecting my quality of daytime life exactly.

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>But this article is so adorable. Um. It says, you know,

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>there's some things you can do if you're your young

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>your young child is grinding his or her teeth, you

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>can draw him a warm bath before bed, to read

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>him a story. That is just like that's the most

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.919
<v Speaker 1>heartwarming treatment for any condition. I've ever heard try reading

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a story to your kid before bed. That's novel, right,

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Don't try to read him a novel though, Uh let

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>me see. I think they also recommend, um, if you're

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>an adult, something topical like an analgesic like tiger bomb

0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>below the ears, like sort of right there outside the jaw. UM.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. I could give that a try,

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if that'll keep me from grinding.

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Might just provide some relief. Have you tried warm baths

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>for yourself before bed? Get those thighs moist? Uh. It

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>says here to keep your tongue in the roof of

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>your mouth some that's sort of a version of what

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing. But I don't see how the roof of

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>your mouth helps so much. I think it cuts down

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>on um like the chance you might bite your tongue,

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's also keeping your mind focused on what your

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>mouth is doing at any given time. That's what I

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>would guess. UM. And of course, like there's a lot

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that you could do as far as like just relaxing

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>is concerned, Like meditation helps with absolutely everything. Um, not

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>drinking as much, cutting down on caffeine, not smoking all

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 1>those things are linked to it, um not chewing gum.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>So basically, you know how I think I've said recently

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>where if you have like a sleep disorder that you

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like your bed, Who's I telling this to do you remember?

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>M H, I don't remember either, but UM, that your

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>bed should be just for sleeping, like go to bed

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to sleep, like no TV, no reading, no nothing. And

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>then you know, over the course of time, you'll train

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself to associate bed with sleep and you'll just be

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.439
<v Speaker 1>able to sleep better. Um. The same thing goes with

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>these other um pair of functional habits like chewing on pencaps,

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>chewing gum, chewing your fingernails, like you have to make

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>sure you're not doing those because your mouth is just

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>for eating and drinking and talking and breathing and that's it,

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>not for chewing or any grinding your teeth. And you

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>can kind of train yourself And that really kind of

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>gets to the heart of this whole thing, that it's

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>a an unconscious habit that your that your body has

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>said this is what we're going with for stress relief.

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>So you're clearly stressed out, but you've developed a habit

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to break the habit and there's some

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>other techniques that seem to work fairly well that are

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>aimed at breaking this habit of grinding your teeth. Yeah,

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I I chewed. I've always been in my nails,

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and I used to massacre pens and pencils in school

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>when I was like elementary school in high school. I

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>don't do that anymore because I literally stopped myself from

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>doing it because I know how bad that is for

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>my teeth. But um, you know, that's when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. I didn't have the you know, the smoothest

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>childhood and home life. So maybe that was that stuff

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 1>coming out. I don't know. I wasn't stressed about like

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>work and adult relationships and stuff. I guess, you know,

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe I always just had anxiety and never dealt with

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in a in a healthy way. I tend to think

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>puberty is a pretty stressful event too, So going through

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<v Speaker 1>that will make you go through a few pain caps.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, what's happening down there, doc stressing me out?

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>My thighs are all moist. Oh no, so grind care. Um,

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>this thing I thought was amazing. I looked it up

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, here you go, this is what cures

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>teeth grinding. Yeah. I went to buy one today, but

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't live in Germany, Denmark or Sweden. That's the

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>only place you can get them. Still, that's what it

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>said on the website. Huh. So grind Care is a

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a headband. They describe as a headband, but really

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 1>it's these little modules that you put on either side

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of your temple basically, and it's a monitor that censors

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>whether you are about to clench your jaw or not

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>grind your teeth, and it shoots out a little pulsive

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>electricity says no, I don't think so, and it relaxes

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>your jaw. I mean, as soon as I saw this,

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's it. That's the answer. Man. Well, hey,

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like listeners in Denmark, Germany or where, give me one

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of these things? Sweden? Yeah, hook choke up. Yeah, it's

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing that it's not available outside those three countries. Uh,

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it really is, because it sounds like it works. They

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>say that it reduces grinding by in the first three weeks,

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>between weeks six and eight. Yeah, I mean I was sold.

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I can get my hands on one through the

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe dark web. We found out, so we had this

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>this portrait made of Momo, and the artist was featured

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>in Harper's Bizarre Netherlands, and she had the portrait of

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Momo in the magazine. So yeah, but try to get

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your hands on a Harper's Bizarre Netherlands edition. You can't

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>do it. I bet you could get one. You me

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, I'll bet the stuff. You

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>should know, Army could help. So she went onto the

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 1>s y s K Facebook Army page, was like, just

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<v Speaker 1>asked for help and got a bunch of people who

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>have offered, which is super nice. I am happy to report.

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I believe we're getting a few copies. It's fantastic. Yeah.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>It was either that or flying to the Netherlands in

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the middle of a pandemic. Well, in any other time

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 1>that might be a fun little adventure. It could be.

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>But it was cool because everybody was just so happy

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to help to you know, Yeah, we have the best

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>listeners on the planet. I drove to Vegas one time

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>with my friend, you know, Johnny Pindell to get a

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>T shirt and the drove back. Wow. What was the

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>T shirt? If I remember correctly, Johnny wanted a heart

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>New York. No, I think it was a was it

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a Crispy Cream Vegas or some sort of larger brand

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>with the Vegas specific specificity hard rock? I don't think

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it was. And this was, you know, prey, like you

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>could buy anything on the internet at all times. So

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, you want to drive to Vegas. I

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>want to get this shirt, and I was like, sure,

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. How long did it take you? I

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>mean it's from l A. It's not far. Oh, I

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>was thinking from Atlanta. Good lord. Now it's like, wow,

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>must have been one hell of a shirt, even from

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>l A. That's pretty pretty impressive. Yeah, it's a common

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys engage in a huge drug collections free first? Oh? Sure,

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 1>and start seeing bats and then blew it all on

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>amal nitrate and blackjack. That's right. There was one other

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>thing we should mention, though. There is a um apparently

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>something you can put in your mouth. It's got a

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>nasty tasting liquid. I guess it's like a gel pack

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.399
<v Speaker 1>or something that you put between your teeth and when

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you bite into it when you're asleep, that thing is

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>punctured and that you get that nastiness in your mouth.

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know that that would work. On me

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>because I used to paint my fingernails with deterrent when

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it was an elementary school my mom. It was just

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>super bitter, like the most bitter thing you could ever imagine,

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and I just chewed right through it. That's greatly didn't

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.959
<v Speaker 1>stop me. This was so from from what I could tell,

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it was just a patent somebody has. It looks like

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.439
<v Speaker 1>a um a retainer. But then in the back where

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the molars are those packets and they suggested seawater or

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>hot sauce, and I was like, jeezus, seems like it

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>will wake you up. Apparently that's the point. Like, I

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>guess you just annoy yourself into not grinding your teeth

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>any longer because you just want to get some sleep.

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think, Chuck, did this cure you?

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>What's it gonna take? I don't know. I'm not having

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that surgery. And I don't like we're in the mouth

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>guard I've worn. I wear the mouth guards sometimes when

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I know that I'm no for sure I'm going through

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a particularly stressful period UM but it's just it's not comfortable.

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, no one wants to wear those things. Well,

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>if you are listening to us, in Germany, Denmark or Sweden.

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Hit chuck ups so he can get a grind care

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>from you. That's right. Uh. And in the meantime, if

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to know more about teeth grinding, go check

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>out the article written by Jordan's Mashkevich called I can't

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>remember what it's called, but anyway, just up Jordan Moshkovitch.

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's more than one of them running around.

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Um uh. And there's other stuff all over the internet too.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>And since I said that, it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I bet you there are at least

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>ten dentists in New York City named Dr Jordan Moskovitch.

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you think so? Sure? Okay, it just sounds like

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>a dental name. You know. My first innis name was

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Dr Tuggle. Uh. That is a really great name in general. Yeah,

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Dr Tuggle. That's a great name for like a cat too, Yeah,

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Dr Tuggle, Dr Tuggle. One time I was in the airport.

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 1>This is when we had our dog Buckley and we

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>called him Buckles a lot. And Uh, I was in

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the airport and Delta was paging someone at the little

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>uh where you check in there, and they said paging

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Mr Buckles, Mr Buckles, can you come to the amazing

0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>just killed me? I immediately called himly. I was like

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>paging Mr Buckles, all right, I'm gonna call this something

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that we got wrong, sort of you got wrong on

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the Heroin podcast, and we heard from enough people about

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>this that I thought it bore an email or a read. Hey, guys,

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>As a former opiate addict now almost ten years clean,

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>with lots of education and experience in this area, I'd

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like to gently suggest that a correction be noted. On

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>your recent very good episode on Heroin and discussing the

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 1>withdrawal detox period, Josh stated that an addict order to

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>get through that miserable week of suffering, than he or

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>she would be essentially over the addiction. While it's true

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the acute phase of heroin withdrawal last about a week,

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>addiction as a disorder far more complex and insidious and

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>long term than physical dependency, which is only one aspect

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that a week's worth of detox can cure. A secondary

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of withdrawal can occur, known as post acute withdrawal

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>syndrome pause, in which the brain has to sort of

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>recalibrate and heal from protracted dopamine and balances. Pause can

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>trigger episodes of anxiety and profound depression, which can even

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>lead a recovering addict right back into active addiction. Moreover,

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>addiction rarely happens in a vacuum. Most addicts need long

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>term support, therapy and coaching. You weren't suggesting that's not

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the case, by the way, to redevelop or develop coping

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 1>skills that will enable him or her to live a

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>drug free life. But recovery from addiction is absolutely achievable.

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not short or simple as a few days of nausea, aches,

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 1>and diarrhea. Thanks for all you do. That is from

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Jason and sant in tone nice Thanks a lot, Jason,

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm absolutely chuck. Thank you for bailing me out on that.

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.839
<v Speaker 1>That's not what I meant. But I definitely should have

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 1>been a lot clearer than I was. Well, we should

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>have talked about pause, because that's a big deal. We

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>heard from a bunch of people talking about pause, but boy,

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.240
<v Speaker 1>we heard from a lot of people that were current

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>informer addicts. It was more so than our other drug podcast.

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>It was really pretty enlightening and heartening and disheartening all

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>at once. Yeah, I mean it really kind of got across,

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like just how widespread the opioid crisis is. You know. Well,

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>thanks to everybody who wrote in uh and hang in there,

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to everybody who's still struggling with addiction of any kind. Um,

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and thanks a lot Jason from Santa Fe or sant

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Intone san Intone. Um. If you want to get in

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>touch with this, like Jason did, you can send us

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.640
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0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.720
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