Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's going everybody? Brian Alvarez here
Speaker 1: on Wrestling Observer Live. We're here every day Monday through Friday,
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Speaker 1: our YouTube top tier subscribers, twitch homies are probably wondering
Speaker 1: where and the heck is Brian today. Well, I'm in
Speaker 1: lovely San Francisco, California, and in fact, on Friday, I
Speaker 1: will be live from the Sports Byline Studios, So that's
Speaker 1: gonna be very exciting for today. You'll have to see
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Speaker 1: all of the news with Mike semperviv and it is
Speaker 1: the weekend and so we have a lot of news
Speaker 1: to talk about, and as always, not all of it
Speaker 1: is good news. We'll get into the raw recap here,
Speaker 1: the preview you here in a moment, but obviously the
Speaker 1: big news today is Shinjiro Otani. Shinjiro Tani remains paralyzed
Speaker 1: following injuries suffering in a Zero one show on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Company president Takehito Kami spoke to Tokyo Sports on Monday
Speaker 1: confirmed Otani's condition remains unchanged. It has not changed. He
Speaker 1: said he is conscious but cannot move his limbs. Currently
Speaker 1: is being treated by a doctor. As for the official diagnosis,
Speaker 1: we are waiting for reply from the hospital. Forty nine
Speaker 1: year old Otani took a German Suplex into the turnbuckle
Speaker 1: during the night's main event and was unable to move. Afterwards,
Speaker 1: the ring ropes were removed, the fans were asked to leave.
Speaker 1: Otani was eventually stretchered out and taken to the hospital.
Speaker 1: He had been challenging the Promotions World champion Takashi Sagia.
Speaker 1: He performed from New Japan from ninety two to two
Speaker 1: thousand one. Co founded Zero one with Shinyi Hashimoto, team
Speaker 1: with Tatito Taka one Tag Team of the Year in
Speaker 1: the Observer Awards. He was also named Best Technical Wrestler
Speaker 1: that same year. So obviously it's gonna be a while
Speaker 1: before we know, you know, what happened and whether or
Speaker 1: not he can make a full recovery or to what
Speaker 1: degree he can make a recovery. But obviously pro wrestling
Speaker 1: has dangers, and we could talk about this after the break,
Speaker 1: and not just the danger of any particular spot, but
Speaker 1: the danger of years of wear and tear. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that and all the rest of the news
Speaker 1: back in a moment with more Observer Live back of
Speaker 1: the show Bright now but is here Wrestling Observer Live,
Speaker 1: mike'sumber Viv also Wrestling Observer at dot com. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of news to get into. Obviously, the bad
Speaker 1: news out of the way first Otani and uh we'll
Speaker 1: know more, presumably as time goes on, and I hope
Speaker 1: the best for him. Uh. Sometimes when these things happen,
Speaker 1: it takes a while for the swelling to go down,
Speaker 1: and once the swelling goes down, people can slowly regain
Speaker 1: feeling in their arms and legs. But right now he
Speaker 1: does not have any, and that's certainly not good. And
Speaker 1: uh it is a it is a cautionary tale that
Speaker 1: it's pro wrestling, and uh it is Uh it is worked.
Speaker 1: You know, the winners and losers are predetermined. The idea
Speaker 1: that every bump is a minor car crash is is overstated,
Speaker 1: but it is dangerous and it can be very dangerous.
Speaker 1: And this this story, what it, what it always reminds
Speaker 1: me of, is you know, you see, uh, you see
Speaker 1: these guys taking bumps on their heads, necks and everything
Speaker 1: like that in Regal. You know, he did that that
Speaker 1: podcast with Jericho and talked about it. And it's not
Speaker 1: even so much what happens on a particular bump, but
Speaker 1: it is the years and years of accumulated damage. We're
Speaker 1: all of a sudden one day it can all go wrong.
Speaker 1: And that was the situation with Massawi. Everyone knows that story,
Speaker 1: an internal decapitation. He took a high angle suplex and
Speaker 1: it was a suplex he taken not only many times before,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the times when he took that
Speaker 1: that suplex he landed worse. But this was the one where,
Speaker 1: after years and years, it was one too many and
Speaker 1: you know, a German suplex into the buckles. I have
Speaker 1: not seen it. I mean, maybe it was the move
Speaker 1: itself went horribly wrong, but my guess is it probably
Speaker 1: didn't go I mean, it went horribly wrong, but I
Speaker 1: think the bigger issue is that the accumulated damage to
Speaker 1: his neck. There was one bump too many, and that's
Speaker 1: why you know, Regal and many others have have pointed
Speaker 1: out for a long time, don't land on your neck,
Speaker 1: don't land on your head. Doesn't matter if you wake
Speaker 1: up and a couple of days later you feel fine,
Speaker 1: don't do it. So here we are wishing all the
Speaker 1: best to Otani. Hopefully uh we get good news over
Speaker 1: the next couple of days, but right now all we
Speaker 1: know is conscious, can talk, can move his limbs, and
Speaker 1: so hoping for the best. Absolutely a legend. And you
Speaker 1: know similar situation Pero Guayo against Ray my Stereo where
Speaker 1: just bounded against the ropes and whatever happened happened there
Speaker 1: and it's just it's sad. And Shinjiro Tani is a
Speaker 1: He really is a legend. You know, he's been around
Speaker 1: so long now. I don't know if people realize that
Speaker 1: during the golden age of junior heavyweight wrestling in Japan,
Speaker 1: the style that influenced so many of the people that
Speaker 1: you see on your TVs today, he was a very
Speaker 1: important part of that. He was the first ever w
Speaker 1: c W Cruiser Right Champion. He had feuds with Jusi
Speaker 1: and Liger and Liger's partner Al Samurai and Ultimo Dragon
Speaker 1: and Chris ben Wah when he was Wild Pegasus and
Speaker 1: all of those guys. Eddie is Black Tiger. He was
Speaker 1: the man, and he had a team with KOJ Kanamoto
Speaker 1: and later on Iowa, I mean, him and Kanamoto would
Speaker 1: go at it. They were great partners, great enemies, fantastic stuff,
Speaker 1: and then did Hustle, went with Hashimoto, did zero one
Speaker 1: and it has to this day. Zero one has been
Speaker 1: around for a long time. A lot of people thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna fail and die plenty of times, and
Speaker 1: it has survived because he and Masada Tanaka for a
Speaker 1: long time, we're the ones really grinding and out. And
Speaker 1: since Tanaka has kind of stepped back a little bit,
Speaker 1: Otani has been that guy and he's been going, you know,
Speaker 1: as hard as Otani can go. And he's forty nine
Speaker 1: years old, and all the best to him. I just
Speaker 1: want him to have a good quality of life, and
Speaker 1: I hope he does recover his feelings and just things
Speaker 1: work out for the best. You know. Somebody on the
Speaker 1: chat here said, I can't believe that seth Roll is
Speaker 1: still doing the buckle bomb after what happened to Sting.
Speaker 1: That's my point. There's nothing inherently wrong with a buckle bomb.
Speaker 1: If you deliver the buckle bomb right and the person
Speaker 1: takes the buckle bomb right, it's not all that different
Speaker 1: from being whipped across and taking a hard buckle. The
Speaker 1: issue was that Sting had been wrestling for years and
Speaker 1: years and years, and whatever happened happened on that buckle bomb. Now,
Speaker 1: the running buckle bomb into the barricade outside, I don't
Speaker 1: like that one because the barricade is padded, but unlike
Speaker 1: the top turn buckle with the ropes, there is no
Speaker 1: give and so you're hitting that. You're hitting that barricade
Speaker 1: pretty hard. And if you get thrown too hard, you
Speaker 1: land too high on a on a barricade, a padded barricade,
Speaker 1: and if you're not thrown hard enough, you really land
Speaker 1: wrong and then you you splat on the ground. And
Speaker 1: that's how Finnvalor got hurt when set him with the
Speaker 1: buckle bomba into the barricade. I don't like that one,
Speaker 1: but a normal safe buckle bomb into the top turn
Speaker 1: buckle that is not an inherently dangerous move. And the
Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, if we want to start
Speaker 1: banning every move where somebody has gotten in herd. Then yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a few moves that probably aren't safe
Speaker 1: to do one way or the other. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not big into banning moves, but that finisher that
Speaker 1: Penton Phoenix do, where you know the guy gets dropped
Speaker 1: on his neck in like the double pile driver position. Dude,
Speaker 1: I've seen that one go wrong way too many times.
Speaker 1: And if there's a move, there's going wrong way too
Speaker 1: many times. I don't think that necessarily, Like, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of moves that Penton Phoenix can do, but
Speaker 1: every move you can probably find an example of somebody
Speaker 1: getting hurt on virtually every move. I hurt myself on
Speaker 1: a Snake Eyes once I thought the ground was gonna
Speaker 1: be there, it wasn't. My leg was too straight. I
Speaker 1: have to pretended my name. Should I be calling for
Speaker 1: the Snake Eyes to be a band? Of course not.
Speaker 1: You know, something went wrong. I mean, are we gonna
Speaker 1: band getting in the ring because Vince Wmickibhan towr two quads?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna a band walking in the ring because
Speaker 1: Kevin nash Tork? Of course not. Things are gonna have
Speaker 1: up in and if a move is is injuring a
Speaker 1: lot of people. If a move is constantly going wrong,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. But a move that you've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: five hundred times and one time somebody gets hurt, that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen in wrestling. It's just, you know the nature
Speaker 1: of wrestling, you're gonna get hurt, and quite frankly, often
Speaker 1: you're gonna get hurt doing something that you probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: have gotten hurt doing. It was just some fluke, some
Speaker 1: fluke deal. People calling for the banning of the snake
Speaker 1: eyes get out of here Na should be down to
Speaker 1: two moves. Well, if you had to ban a move,
Speaker 1: is there one off the top of your head that
Speaker 1: you go? You know what if I had, if I
Speaker 1: was right now, I'll tell you right now, the tree slam.
Speaker 1: Tree slam. I I hate that move and listen. The
Speaker 1: thing to me with with most moves, okay, is it
Speaker 1: either has to be a move where the person doing
Speaker 1: it is capable of depositing you on the match safely
Speaker 1: times out of a hundred, or you take your own
Speaker 1: bump and put yourself on the mat safely. I have
Speaker 1: seen that tree slam go wrong so many times. I
Speaker 1: don't really want to bring this up because it was
Speaker 1: like it was an accident or something like that. But
Speaker 1: I think the guy's name was was it brian On.
Speaker 1: Remember Great Collie was training and like all pro and
Speaker 1: a p W. That guy, you know, he was he
Speaker 1: was killed and uh, it was an accident, like it
Speaker 1: wasn't Great Great Collie was trying to kill the guy.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure it was he was practicing the
Speaker 1: tree slam, because the tree slam, it's always first off,
Speaker 1: it's always done by a tall guy. So first off,
Speaker 1: you're way too high. Then the guy has to throw you,
Speaker 1: and he has to he has to basically I don't
Speaker 1: know time it is the right word, but he has
Speaker 1: to do it in such a way that you're going
Speaker 1: to fall and you're gonna land flat on your back
Speaker 1: exactly when you're supposed to win the mat. You either
Speaker 1: land too high and you land in the back of
Speaker 1: your head, or you don't rotate enough and you land
Speaker 1: on your buttocks thumb, and then not only do you
Speaker 1: land on your tailbone, but then your head snaps back
Speaker 1: and intimate if you watch tree slams way more than
Speaker 1: the time, it's it's a bad landing for the person
Speaker 1: who's getting tree slam and they have no control over
Speaker 1: the bump. You're absolutely your life is in the hands
Speaker 1: of the tall guy who's who's slamming you. So that
Speaker 1: is the one that I would restrict. And there are
Speaker 1: those times too with that move where the person in
Speaker 1: there excitement basically slams the person down as hard as
Speaker 1: they can, which is you know, rarer. But that happens
Speaker 1: a lot with those high angle power bombs and those moves.
Speaker 1: That who was it was a Grayson Waller who was
Speaker 1: the one that actually did that Razor's edge or whatever
Speaker 1: it was where they just completely killed Yeah, that's another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not even I think it's the Splash Mountain because
Speaker 1: if you watch the normal Razor's edge, like Razor Ramon
Speaker 1: put him down perfect like you know of the time,
Speaker 1: but the one where you lift him up like that
Speaker 1: and then toss him back in the moment. Observer Live
Speaker 1: back in the show Bright Now Bare is here Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Live, Mike simper viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is spring break for me, although it's not really
Speaker 1: much of a break. In fact, it's exactly it's exactly
Speaker 1: like being at home, except now I gotta hang out
Speaker 1: with a dog all day visiting my I guess would
Speaker 1: be my sister in law. My wife's sister had twins,
Speaker 1: and so we're here to uh help out. And they've
Speaker 1: also got a dog. So I've been hanging around with
Speaker 1: this dog. He's the bane of my existence dog and
Speaker 1: actually a very nice dog. What kind of dog, I
Speaker 1: don't know, big white dog. It's a big dog. Golden Retriever. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of dog it is. It's
Speaker 1: a big, fluffy dog. It's not a Golden Retriever. All
Speaker 1: that equipment that you brought down there, and you didn't
Speaker 1: bring a mic stand or anything. I never bring a
Speaker 1: mic stand. You go, you going Dave style? I always
Speaker 1: go Dave style in the road. I never bring a
Speaker 1: mic stand. Why is that? Because the mike stands too
Speaker 1: heavy to pack number one at number two this table.
Speaker 1: As you can see from my camera angle, the table
Speaker 1: is so far down there that I would need like
Speaker 1: a giant. I just hold the mike. It's easier when
Speaker 1: you're not traveling with your family. Do you still travel
Speaker 1: like wrestling style? You just take one gym bag, roll
Speaker 1: all the TEUs up and I got I got one
Speaker 1: little tiny mini suitcase that that holds this gimmick that
Speaker 1: I used to connect and literally everything else I have
Speaker 1: is in that backpack right there. I've got all my clothes,
Speaker 1: I've got headphones, I've got Mike, I've got cables, I've
Speaker 1: got my a cou Tremont bag. Everything I need is
Speaker 1: in that one backpack. Meanwhile, these uh, these ladies, you
Speaker 1: saw many suitcases they brought. Holy smokes. I got a
Speaker 1: two year old. She has more clothes than I do
Speaker 1: pack for this trip. Just going to the Game Changer
Speaker 1: in Landy City, just probably four suitcases. Like it's Atlantic City.
Speaker 1: Just by default, you're gonna be one of the better
Speaker 1: people there. For Heaven's sakes. You know it's crazy, but
Speaker 1: it's Did you ever have a problem going through the
Speaker 1: airport with any of the gimmicks? Now for the for
Speaker 1: the show, Well, I'll tell you that story here in
Speaker 1: a second, but I gotta go over this first because
Speaker 1: I'm in San Francisco and I feel we should alternate
Speaker 1: news with this jibber jabber. So anyway, I'm in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: but I did not go to the g c W
Speaker 1: show yesterday, Uh number one, because I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to make it on time. And I'm actually not
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. I'm North anyway. Multiple talents to not appear.
Speaker 1: It's Sunday's g CW Devil in a new dress show
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Edition of Bandido Gringo Loco did not
Speaker 1: wrestle his advertise. No explanation was given, and they have
Speaker 1: not responded to a request for comment on Loco not wrestling.
Speaker 1: Jacob pat two did not appear in the show. They
Speaker 1: announced he had travel problems if music travel problems. Inability
Speaker 1: to make Sunday show announced in a tweet Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 1: and uh and of course Banditto was set to face
Speaker 1: Nick Wayne. Nick Wayne was going to get a match
Speaker 1: with Bandido and Bandido no show. You all know why.
Speaker 1: Scared scared? He was scared to go and lose to
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old. He's not unless I wasn't invited
Speaker 1: to his birthday. It should be very very I was
Speaker 1: in his first birthday, for crying out loud, I'd better
Speaker 1: be invited to his seventeen. Not that I'd show up,
Speaker 1: but I better be invited. So he faced Jaffie instead.
Speaker 1: Certainly a unique switch and I'm looking at it, what
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been What have you been the main event
Speaker 1: with Bandido? Or did you go from the main event
Speaker 1: to the opener because of Bandido? Well, I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: all the focus was on A lot of the focus
Speaker 1: was on Bandido Nick for that night, so certainly mine was.
Speaker 1: But man, can you believe that? You know? I guess
Speaker 1: it also proves that have never been seen in the
Speaker 1: same place at the same time with Bandido, So it
Speaker 1: was Bandido in the country. I mean I couldn't make
Speaker 1: it down there on time either. Yeah, why didn't you
Speaker 1: bring your gear as part of the rule? Because I
Speaker 1: couldn't fit this backpack with my other stuff. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you storry about the airport. Okay. So I once
Speaker 1: went to the airport and back in the day, so
Speaker 1: you guys understand like, oh, it looks so easy Brian
Speaker 1: going to California doing the short No, no, it's take
Speaker 1: can It's taken fifteen years to figure out how to
Speaker 1: make this go smoothly. Okay, So back in the day,
Speaker 1: you know what I used to have to bring when
Speaker 1: I went on trips. I had to bring so much
Speaker 1: stuff back in the day to by the way, have
Speaker 1: much worse quality shows than we have nowadays. But I
Speaker 1: had Mike's and I had cables, and I would bring
Speaker 1: along you know, compressor blah blah blah blah blah. So
Speaker 1: I had this this, uh, this suitcase that was full
Speaker 1: like you opened it up and it was like a
Speaker 1: whole studio in there. And I would bring this and
Speaker 1: I would I would take it through security and everything
Speaker 1: like that. So, uh, one day I'm going through security
Speaker 1: and uh, I can't even remember what it was that
Speaker 1: got flagged, but it was it was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: a jacket or a pair of pants, or it was.
Speaker 1: It was something where they stop you, the red light
Speaker 1: goes on, they come over, they want to look at
Speaker 1: your pain pants, They want the dog to the drug
Speaker 1: sniffing dog, they want to move their magic wand over there,
Speaker 1: anything that. So it was it was over something stupid.
Speaker 1: It was like a pair of pants or a pair
Speaker 1: of shoes or I don't even know what it was.
Speaker 1: But meanwhile I had a suitcase filled with wires and
Speaker 1: mechanical devices. It it literally looks like a bomb that
Speaker 1: just slid right on through. Oh, don't worry about that
Speaker 1: thing with all the wires and gadgets. But that pair
Speaker 1: of pants, that pair of pants, who knows there might
Speaker 1: be kerosene on those pants. So anyway, I think gets
Speaker 1: stopped this time. Don't leave your half gramm of coke
Speaker 1: in there, and that wouldn't happen that there was nothing
Speaker 1: in there. There was literally nothing in there. I can't
Speaker 1: remember what it was, but it's something dumb. Do you
Speaker 1: think maybe it was a smoke screen that so they
Speaker 1: can look at your other stuff or something like that
Speaker 1: to make it was my jacket and guys like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a nice jacket. I don't need to see where
Speaker 1: he gets that cateagonia. Okay, maybe he was taking your
Speaker 1: attention away and it was from Seattle, clearly, all right,
Speaker 1: listen tonight is Raw. Guys ready for that? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: thought I had a lineup, but I don't. Oh yeah, ok, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tamasa Champa has been uh drafted to Raw apparently. So
Speaker 1: that was on p U Insider today. We have got
Speaker 1: Sasha Banks and Naomi Versus live in Rhea for the
Speaker 1: SmackDown Women's Tag Team titles or the just the Women's
Speaker 1: Take Team titles. There is a tease, by the way
Speaker 1: on SmackDown if you wanted. The SmackDown report, there is
Speaker 1: a tease that they're going to unify the men's tag
Speaker 1: team titles as well. So I know they're all into
Speaker 1: the brand extension everything like that, but I mean, we've
Speaker 1: been talking about this for years. Why don't they just
Speaker 1: unify all the belts. You can have your two brands,
Speaker 1: but just send your champions, brand, brand whatever. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: actually doing it, because now they're teasing another another title unification.
Speaker 1: We have Dami Priest, JJ styles Veer will face Ray Mysterio,
Speaker 1: m v P will host the v I P Lounge
Speaker 1: with his own guy, Oh Moss, Roman Reigns and the
Speaker 1: us OS versus Drew. A New Day is advertised for
Speaker 1: the dark match, and yes, in his first raw match,
Speaker 1: and I believe six years Cody Rhodes is facing them.
Speaker 1: Is okay, So yesterday it was whatever day, I watched SmackDown.
Speaker 1: I heard that Cody Rose was facing the miss and
Speaker 1: I thought, all right, that's fine, it's easy match, you know,
Speaker 1: beat the guy or whatever. So then I foolishly I
Speaker 1: went on I went on Twitter and every now and
Speaker 1: then you know, they have trending on the side, which
Speaker 1: is like, you know, whatever, is trending that they think
Speaker 1: you would be interested in, and one of them was
Speaker 1: the Miss, and that why is the Miss trending? I
Speaker 1: would get worried when people are trending because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I hope something bad did happened. So I foolishly clicked
Speaker 1: on the mrs name because it was trending. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So apparently apparently when this match was announced, Uh, the
Speaker 1: internet went crazy. I was unaware of this to like
Speaker 1: clicked on this this name. So first they were like
Speaker 1: a bunch of people that were angry, like angry that
Speaker 1: Cody was going to face the Miss. Okay, angry. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you would be angry, like who cares?
Speaker 1: But they were actually angry about it, like Cody's just
Speaker 1: come back in his first match. Uh, Bryan Danielson debut
Speaker 1: his first matching with Kenny Omega. Cody's debut matches what
Speaker 1: them is? So then you know all the people that
Speaker 1: were angry, you know, we're going off about how much
Speaker 1: the Miss sucked. Okay, wh yeah, that's what I understand that.
Speaker 1: But then we had all of the the pro Miss
Speaker 1: people that had to come to the defense of the Miss.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Bro I'm praying that Tony Cohn is
Speaker 1: right that most of these people are bots. Okay, because
Speaker 1: there's like the stuff that people were writing, like, oh,
Speaker 1: how can you say that the miss sucks? He's uh,
Speaker 1: he's a grand slam. They were literally doing what he
Speaker 1: does in his promoes, which is, I'm gonna rattle off
Speaker 1: a list of all of the belts that misses one
Speaker 1: to prove that he is in fact great, and then
Speaker 1: you cannot say anything bad about the Miss. It's one
Speaker 1: thing to say, you know whatever, but to say that
Speaker 1: MSS is not good in the ring, Oh, you must
Speaker 1: be a troll. Look at all these belts he's I'm like,
Speaker 1: you've got to be you can't. You can't be a
Speaker 1: real person. So anyway, you know. But then I got
Speaker 1: thinking about today. I'm not mad about him, but I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it. I thought, what is the end
Speaker 1: goal of Cody and the Miss, Like, is he just
Speaker 1: gonna go in there and beat him in two minutes
Speaker 1: with the Crossroads, Because I can't imagine they're gonna go
Speaker 1: in and go like nineteen minutes back and forth, because
Speaker 1: that's certainly, absolutely not what I would do with Cody.
Speaker 1: A week after he debut is going toe to toe
Speaker 1: with the Miss for nineteen minutes as like it's always
Speaker 1: he just gonna beat him. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought about them more. I was like, what's the
Speaker 1: endgame here? Shouldn't he go in with somebody like his
Speaker 1: first match was with Seth, which was a great match.
Speaker 1: You know, don't you want to dam come in and
Speaker 1: have like some great matches with some guy or something like? No,
Speaker 1: we got we gotta entertain a little bit here. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a twelve minute promo back and forth between
Speaker 1: the two bantering back and forth, which may be incredibly entertaining.
Speaker 1: Who knows. Then we're probably gonna have a match. But
Speaker 1: if you believe that Backlash is Logan Paul and the Miss,
Speaker 1: then you know this, maybe it's just a quick win
Speaker 1: for Cody and something to do for this week, you know.
Speaker 1: But if it's going to be a match for Backlash,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is where it starts up. So
Speaker 1: I have a feeling this is not going to lead
Speaker 1: though to what I really want, which of course is
Speaker 1: Brandy and Maurice back in them on with morebs. You're alive,
Speaker 1: row Miss people, he made a end and wrestle media.
Speaker 1: He doesn't suck dual Grand Slam champ. Why do people
Speaker 1: actually do that for the I mean, look, the Miss
Speaker 1: is somebody that you would probably want your child, depending
Speaker 1: on what you thought about wrestling, to grow up and be.
Speaker 1: He's been injured once in the entirety of his career. Uh.
Speaker 1: He came from a a background of being on MTV,
Speaker 1: not anything else MTV, and that jump started his shot
Speaker 1: to get to w w E. He married Maurice, He's
Speaker 1: got a great family. He's parlayed this into a career
Speaker 1: outside of w w E. You don't have to quadruple
Speaker 1: out on Miss Luth as type of in ring wizard.
Speaker 1: You can just throw all that to the side and say,
Speaker 1: if you're entertained by the Miss and like the Miss
Speaker 1: and think he'll match up well with Cody, Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't have to take it that far. No, dig and
Speaker 1: you understand, he said, people trying to get a rise
Speaker 1: out of me. No, this had nothing to do with me,
Speaker 1: literally nothing. I I didn't write or say anything. I
Speaker 1: went on the internet and it said MS was trending,
Speaker 1: so I clicked on his name and everybody was just
Speaker 1: going up. I had nothing to do with any of this.
Speaker 1: If you don't listen, you can all go up there
Speaker 1: but yourself. And and if you want to click on
Speaker 1: mrs name and see him to dungee right now? What
Speaker 1: is what is going on here with him? Punk? Let's
Speaker 1: see see him punk top If see him punk Defete's
Speaker 1: hangman page for the title Eddie Kingston should have thrown him.
Speaker 1: It's just that it seems to be just a bunch
Speaker 1: of people talking about cempunk really see all right, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we had two shows this weekend speaking of a w
Speaker 1: WE add the A Rampage show. Which are you guys
Speaker 1: stick of hearing about this one yet? Too bad to
Speaker 1: uh to? Well one was a very good match and
Speaker 1: uh one was actually a it's a great match Brian
Speaker 1: Danielson and Trent. I mean, I go out of my
Speaker 1: way to watch it. But unfortunately for these two guys,
Speaker 1: they were on the undercard. In fact, every match on
Speaker 1: this show, like Swerve and QT for five minutes, was
Speaker 1: a really good match. And I enjoyed watching Red Velvetet
Speaker 1: Boot against Willow Night and Gale since it has to
Speaker 1: be an angle at this point. This is the third
Speaker 1: time that they have put her in the ring with
Speaker 1: a hometown baby face and she's got booed. There's no
Speaker 1: way that's not by design. So I think Red's ultimately
Speaker 1: gonna be turning heel here. And then, yes, John Moxley
Speaker 1: and Wheeler Utah, it's one of those times that I
Speaker 1: wish I actually had that fight VPN or whatever it's
Speaker 1: I could have seen the whole thing unedited. But you know,
Speaker 1: even what I got to see was absolutely just. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is textbook how to get a guy over and losing,
Speaker 1: how to make a star are in one night. John
Speaker 1: Moxley is just he's so great when his role is
Speaker 1: to go in there and win, but get the other
Speaker 1: guy over. I mean, there's nobody better nowadays. I don't
Speaker 1: think because he did this with he did this with
Speaker 1: I think it was Darby and then obviously he did
Speaker 1: this with Wheeler Utah and uh, blood and guts and
Speaker 1: it was a river of blood, just like Moxley had promised.
Speaker 1: And Uh, he couldn't submit the guy every movie put
Speaker 1: him in you to got out. He couldn't pin the guy,
Speaker 1: including with his his DDT which everyone likes to argue about.
Speaker 1: I need to get Moxley in the show and n't
Speaker 1: explain the Death Writer and the Paradigm Shift because I
Speaker 1: believe that the Paradigm Shift is the d DT and
Speaker 1: the Death Rider is the brain Buster version. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know there are people that are for some reason,
Speaker 1: it makes people irrationally furious like, no, it's just a
Speaker 1: paradigm shift, It's only the Death Writer. If it's in Japan.
Speaker 1: End one of these days will ask, yeah, not kidding?
Speaker 1: Is that like the I well, I guess, hey, the
Speaker 1: the Accousa kick and the Mafia kick, I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: for for Chuno, I guess they would call it differently,
Speaker 1: But anyway, the point is he hit him with both
Speaker 1: the Paradigm Shift and the Death Writer and you two
Speaker 1: kicked out of both of them, but then was put
Speaker 1: in the bulldog choke and went unconscious. So he lost
Speaker 1: the match and and Moxley won the match. But Moxley
Speaker 1: was unable to like defeat him. He was unable to
Speaker 1: pin his shoulders or make him give up. He had
Speaker 1: to put him unconscious in order to get his hand raised.
Speaker 1: So I thought this was just it was fantastic. And
Speaker 1: the look on Moxley's face afterwards, the one we see
Speaker 1: too much of the bug eyes and the jaw dropping
Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry cartoon style face in wrestling. I'm the
Speaker 1: two count I and Standard. They do it too much.
Speaker 1: I know. Look there's a reason obviously it's done in
Speaker 1: a W and WW so much on the indies. It
Speaker 1: really drives me nuts because it's like there's no camera
Speaker 1: there or there's not enough people to do this, so
Speaker 1: don't do it. Just stay on your opponent, for Christ's sakes.
Speaker 1: But in this case with Moxley, it worked because I
Speaker 1: just hit this guy with I thought everything, and he
Speaker 1: still somehow kicked out. And then to see his face
Speaker 1: as Danielson gets in the ring behind Regal, who's all
Speaker 1: excited and doesn't he wants to kick him. Me so happy,
Speaker 1: he wants to kiss him, me so happy. You see
Speaker 1: Regal out there, and Danielson looks over at Moxley, who's
Speaker 1: looking over at Danielson. The whole thing I thought when
Speaker 1: perfectly and even the gusher that you would have got,
Speaker 1: I mean, it looked so good. I mean aesthetically is
Speaker 1: nasty as this may sound, blood doesn't bother me, you know,
Speaker 1: it's never bothered me in wrestling or anything like that
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me in general. So to see that face,
Speaker 1: I mean just every the color of the blood, everything
Speaker 1: about it. I thought couldn't have been any better. Now,
Speaker 1: does this help Rampage long term? No, unfortunately not because
Speaker 1: of the position that it's in, but it certainly helps
Speaker 1: out Wheeler Utah and wherever they're going with this Blackpool
Speaker 1: Combat Club when he comes to Dynamite. Also the New
Speaker 1: Japan show over the weekend where your main man, Zack
Speaker 1: Saber Jr. Didn't win the i w GP heavyweight title.
Speaker 1: Mike Rearend, Hey, listen. First off, no, he couldn't. Second off,
Speaker 1: I I advocated on numerous shows and I will advocate
Speaker 1: to get on this show that he should have won
Speaker 1: the title, but he didn't. Really and I did. I
Speaker 1: thought that he should win the title because you know,
Speaker 1: they announced the line up for the next show, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know it's the stadium show again and they want
Speaker 1: to sell a bunch of tickets, and so you know,
Speaker 1: after after Okada one, you know, he has to do
Speaker 1: his challenge, and uh, he challenges Nito and uh you know,
Speaker 1: even Nito comes down and goes. I was actually leaving.
Speaker 1: I was not expecting you to say my name, but hey,
Speaker 1: if you want to have the match, we can have it.
Speaker 1: And I just thought, Bro, listen, I know the match
Speaker 1: is gonna be great. Okay, I've seen this match a
Speaker 1: thousand times. Okay, I think they've already done the match
Speaker 1: twice in it's April, Okay, it'll be May. This will
Speaker 1: be the third time they've done this match. And I'm
Speaker 1: all for, you know, seeing great matches, But I mean,
Speaker 1: I would be a hypocrite if I didn't bring up
Speaker 1: the fact that I really like watching Bianca bell Air
Speaker 1: and dew Drop. But when they do the match four
Speaker 1: times in six weeks, I'm over it. Okay. So the
Speaker 1: point is, Bro, I've seen o'conda NIGHTO a thousand times.
Speaker 1: Like if Zach Saber Jr. Would have won the title, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see matches you've seen before, but now it's different.
Speaker 1: Zach Saber Junior is the champion, Zach Saber Junior defending
Speaker 1: the title against this guy, against that guy, against this guy.
Speaker 1: Any other thing is when Zack Saber Junior is the
Speaker 1: champion every match that he has, because it's I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's a week champion, but he's not Ocada. So
Speaker 1: if you put Zack Saber Junior in there with anybody,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a portion of fans that think we
Speaker 1: might have a title change here tonight. So there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of an added intrigue and a lot of
Speaker 1: these matches as opposed to you know, I guess maybe
Speaker 1: Nighto CoA beat Occada, But I mean, okay, why am
Speaker 1: I wrong here? I want something new and different. I
Speaker 1: want to see some new made events with some different people.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see, you know, Okada did or Zach
Speaker 1: did that promo and he's like, I want to defend
Speaker 1: this title against um what's his face? Osprey? Great. I'd
Speaker 1: love to see Osprey and Zach Saber Junior for the title. Instead,
Speaker 1: I'm getting Okada and Nito for the five thousandth time, apparently,
Speaker 1: because well, you know, we gotta sell tickets to a
Speaker 1: Dome show and it's our strongest match. Well it's your
Speaker 1: strongest match if you haven't done it twice already this year,
Speaker 1: number one and number two. Maybe we shouldn't be running
Speaker 1: a stadium right now, especially if we're limiting everything to
Speaker 1: have capacity. That's that is absolutely true, and you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you wanted to put it on Zach.
Speaker 1: I understand. The only reason that I'll give him a
Speaker 1: pass here for a night though in Okada is because
Speaker 1: it is going to be such a good match, and
Speaker 1: what do we see at the end of it, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think that could be really important too. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know when the Boushi's coming back. Osprey is
Speaker 1: obviously in the mix. Osprey. It's interesting too because he's
Speaker 1: gonna face Tanahashi now right for the for the US title,
Speaker 1: you know him. It will be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: he takes the US title. It would make the most sense.
Speaker 1: Tana Hashi could come over here too. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Tanahashi with the US title as an ambassador would be fantastic.
Speaker 1: But I could see Osprey with it. And you talked
Speaker 1: about new Blood. One thing that Tag division is needed
Speaker 1: desperately because it's been so much with Zach and Taiichi
Speaker 1: and with go O D and with very few tag
Speaker 1: teams great o'con and Jeff Cobb. I love that. I
Speaker 1: hope they can develop some opponents for them. I couldn't
Speaker 1: hope they look that that's a team too, because o'kahan
Speaker 1: is still young in his career. He did not spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time in America, very little, in fact,
Speaker 1: almost none, him coming over to the States with Jeff
Speaker 1: Cobb to do things in New Japan strong, or to
Speaker 1: possibly do things as the doors open. I love that team.
Speaker 1: I love that combination, and with Osprey, you know, you
Speaker 1: built them all up in some sort of way. No
Speaker 1: complaints out of me, you know what, actually almost argue
Speaker 1: I think a Tanahashi should win that that US title. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'll tell you why keeps Osprey in the
Speaker 1: world title mix? Well, because New Japan is getting visas
Speaker 1: for a lot of the foreign talent to come over.
Speaker 1: And if all these foreign talents are coming over, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of brand new matches in Japan for will Osprey.
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, I love Tanashi and everything like that,
Speaker 1: but I mean, he's getting older, he doesn't move as
Speaker 1: well as he's not, they're not going to build the
Speaker 1: promotion around him. And Tanahashi is a guy and Osprey
Speaker 1: would as well. But I mean you may as well
Speaker 1: use Osprey in Japan and send Tanahashi to America to
Speaker 1: sell a bunch of tickets for these shows where they're
Speaker 1: going all over the place. I mean, listen, I love
Speaker 1: will Osprey, okay, but if New Japan is coming to
Speaker 1: my town, they're running split to hers. One's going to Bothel,
Speaker 1: one's going to Afrid. One show's got Osprey, and one
Speaker 1: show's got tana Hashi. No disrespect Osprey, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go see tana Hashi because he's an all time legend,
Speaker 1: and God only knows how many more chances I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to see him having a match in Bothel I
Speaker 1: Bothel will be zero. Whereas I'm pretty sure that if
Speaker 1: I go to a bunch of shows over the next
Speaker 1: few years, I'm gonna have plenty of opportunities to see
Speaker 1: will Osprey, you know, for some big show here there
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I think that it would be better
Speaker 1: off to have ton of Hashi win the title come
Speaker 1: to the US, leave Osprey in Japan, and we got
Speaker 1: a bunch of programs with guys coming over talking about
Speaker 1: former New Japan guy for a minute. Just because it
Speaker 1: took place on SmackDown, I didn't have a chance to
Speaker 1: hear any of your shows that but Shinski Nakamura being
Speaker 1: the guy who I I look I because I know
Speaker 1: some people have been negative on him was wondering if
Speaker 1: you were like I like this for the just this
Speaker 1: reason Cruise control Nakamura at this point in his career.
Speaker 1: I love it for him. I love the fact he
Speaker 1: gets to go to the beach every day and all
Speaker 1: that sort of good stuff. But I know he can
Speaker 1: turn it on for one more match, and I think
Speaker 1: under the circumstances, because they don't have anybody there and
Speaker 1: anybody ready and it's not Drew and You're gum throw
Speaker 1: is all that they don't have anybody, So at least
Speaker 1: I know I'll get Roman reigns and knock Moura in
Speaker 1: at least one good match if even though the story sucks,
Speaker 1: May I I'm not sure you're gonna get that match,
Speaker 1: And that's the main reason. That's the main reason I
Speaker 1: hated this segment because Roman Rains was supposed show up
Speaker 1: on Raw and tell us what's next. So Roman Rains
Speaker 1: shows up on Roddy. He says, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what's next on SmackDown. So we go to SmackDown and
Speaker 1: Roman Rains doesn't tell us what's next. Nakamura comes out.
Speaker 1: They literally lay him out like the world's biggest geek.
Speaker 1: And when it was over, he still didn't tell me
Speaker 1: what was next, and I thought, I hope what's next
Speaker 1: is not Nakamura after that angle. How in the world
Speaker 1: are you gonna make me care about? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Nakamura. I'm sure you could have a good
Speaker 1: match with Roman, but that's your bill to Nakamura being
Speaker 1: the next challenger after Roman unified two belts against brock Lesner.
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna go to Raw and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a challenger from Raw and Nakamura just got
Speaker 1: geeked out because I don't know. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: but I thought that's second blame boogs oh poor books
Speaker 1: back in a moment. Observer Live back the show. Brian
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Speaker 1: about an hour, it's gonna be myself and Filthy Toma Lawlor.
Speaker 1: If you want the full review of the SmackDown show
Speaker 1: from Friday night, we're gonna do that as well as
Speaker 1: this week's New Japan Strong and in fact, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch the Filthy Tom match from last week's New Japan
Speaker 1: strong with Clark Conners where spoil everybody? Tom beat him?
Speaker 1: Which do you apologize to him? Yet? I thought that
Speaker 1: Clark might have had his number, especially when Clark he
Speaker 1: promised to win as a baby face. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: do that unless you're gonna win, dude, stop back in
Speaker 1: all these horses against the stallion himself. Filthy Tom Lawler,
Speaker 1: you're a new japan Strong open weight champion. And halftime
Speaker 1: festivities at the Clippers game? See that? Yeah, check his
Speaker 1: twitter before you do that show. Check his twitter. He
Speaker 1: and uh Finley and I believe it was Jonah All
Speaker 1: lifted up the Clippers mascot and took him out of
Speaker 1: the court, and I believe maybe threw him across the
Speaker 1: floor and then made out with the cheerleaders. But I
Speaker 1: didn't see the entire club. Wow, how about that? Well,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll check that out. I know his twitter is
Speaker 1: a filthy Tom Lawler, and I know my Twitter is
Speaker 1: at Brian Alvarez, and I know my cameo is at
Speaker 1: four W online. All cameos this week from beautiful San Francisco, California.
Speaker 1: Wa here looks like everybody, let's see if you can
Speaker 1: see I'm gonna mess this up somehow. But oh man,
Speaker 1: look at that the Hollywood Hills, even though we're not
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Yeah, apparely, it's just my fingers. I covered
Speaker 1: up the camera. Can you see that? Everyone? No, there
Speaker 1: you go. Tom. I'll see you Friday, See you later, everybody.
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