1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 3: Cred Nick Boorn. We go a week and we're like, 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: where it's gonna be? 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: Por it? 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: What happens during the season that's ridiculous. 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: I like the fact that Steve feels comfortable coming. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: They have to hand out numbers to everybody. I get it. 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: Nobody should be wearing. 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: Thirty two seven. 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Okay, really, come on, Like, what do you know about 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: the line? 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: To me, Devin McCarty is bigger than football. 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Your argument, no one ever should be Devin mccordy. I 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: get that, but his number is different. You can disagree, 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: but you're wrong, but you can. 18 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: How do you find it? Fight over finances? You got 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 4: a billion dollars? 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: No, what's the song? I got nine million problems? J 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: A one. 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: The Chargers are like are like the kings of everything 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: that doesn't matter. 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 5: Last week, bad show. 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: This week he's having a very strong show, a very 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: strong show. This is Patriot's Unfiltered. 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 6: Presented by Toyota's official website for deals by A Toyota 28 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 6: dot Com. 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and as we speak, the Patriots are 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: coming off the practice field. Will be joined shortly by Evan, 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: by Paul, by Deuce. They're gonna be coming in hot 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: because they're at the practice. I had to leave a 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: little early. I have other things to do, as you know, 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: but I'm holding it down until they get here. And 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: once they do, we will get into everything they saw 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: on the practice field. Drake May, Joe, Milton, you name it, 38 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: everybody that was out there. We'll get into all the 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: details coming up here on Patriots Unfiltered. We have a 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: late start today, as you know, two fifteen, so we'll 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: be here until four fifteen. Eight five five. Pats five 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: hundred is the he's taking a hotline. Web radio at 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: Patriots dot Com is the email address, and you know, 44 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: I'll just start it out. I was there early in practice. 45 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: First of all, it's a beautiful day here in Foxborough. 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: I think we deserve it. We had so much rain 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: leading up to the last weekend or so, but it's 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: been beautiful. I'd say, you know, on the warm side, 49 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: probably high seventies, sunny, just just a gorgeous day. Practice 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: look good. You know. I know a lot of people 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: when we first started going out to these OTAs, we're 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: a little worried about. Oh the pace isn't you know 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: that fast? It looked better back in the day. Oh 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: you mean it looked better when you had a coach 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: here that been here for thirty years. Okay, I get it. 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: But since then, I think, you know, as Gerard has 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: learned more, kind of got the feeling of the cadence 58 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: of his you know, assistance and the different units. I 59 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: think you can't tell anymore. I think it just looks like, 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, any other practice we've seen in Foxboro. Other 61 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: than the cast of characters. I'm talking about the pace 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: of the practice, the way it looks, how structured it is, 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,559 Speaker 2: how organized it is, you know units, you know sections, 64 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: and you don't see people standing around. I think evans 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: fears have been answered. When they're doing maybe eleven on 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: eleven's you got Drake may on another field doing seven 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: on seven, so he's not standing around, he's getting his 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: reps in. So things are looking good. Things are looking good. 69 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: How that transpires once a season starts, who knows. I 70 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: have no idea, but right now things look okay from 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: that standpoint, you know. Other than that, I think it's 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: been quiet on the transaction front league wide. The big 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: news this week was Justin Jefferson's contract, which is huge. 74 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: He becomes now the highest non quarterback salary ever in 75 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: the NFL. You know, so I don't know what it 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: averages out to, like thirty five million a year one 77 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: hundred and ten million garan teed for Justin Jefferson. So 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: that's huge. And you know, why do I bring that up? 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: Because I think the Patriots are going to be in 80 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: the wide receiver one market for a while. They're in 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: it now. If someone came available, I think they should 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: get him. They tried to get Calvin Ridley, not to 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: say that he's even in the same stratosphere at this 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: point in his career as Justin Jefferson, but I think 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: whether it's looking at brandonk or Tie Higgins or next 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: year looking at some veteran, I think that, you know, 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: that contract for Jefferson is going to come into play 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: for all the other wide receiver ones from this point on, 89 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: and it just you know, gives you the lesson that 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: the longer you wait, the more the price goes up. 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: There's no reason to wait on these contracts. It just 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: the price is never going to go down. So as 93 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: I speak, speaking of the price going down, it's it's uh, Mike, Mike, 94 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: do so deuce? What's going on? 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: What does that mean? 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: Sorry? 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: I got my hat on here, I look a little uh. 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, you look a little Charlie brownish. 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, a rock. 100 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: But anyway, make it a rock today? 101 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: Paul, you're looking good. You've been losing weight? Are you 102 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: on the Ozempics? 103 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: The baby blue? 104 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: What? 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: What's that? 106 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 5: I think I found it? You found I lost it? 107 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: I think I found you look good. 108 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: I hope it's for a good reason. 109 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 7: A lot of comment comments on his hat today. 110 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, he wasn't intention and the matching 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: shirt was not. 112 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: Well I know that that was intentional. Style to like, 113 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 5: you know, to dress myself intentional. Nothing to do with 114 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: Matt with Drake Man. 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: In the morning. Do you like actually say oh does 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: this match? 117 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: Of course? 118 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: Really? 119 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: Generally obviously I don't. 121 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: Generally I wear. 122 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: Jeans every day, as you know, so I you don't 123 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 5: have to worry about matching it. But I wouldn't wear like, 124 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: you know, a pair of blue khakis with you know, 125 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: like a blue shirts. 126 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: I would underwear underpants. 127 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: Brief. 128 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 7: You know, we're just breaking it down, all right. 129 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: So people, So did you get food? 130 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: No? I did past my lunch time. 131 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: Okay, so you know what all right? 132 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: Utah, Mike and I utah, give me two. 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 5: I was thinking of this place like it has sandwiches, 134 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 5: it has some pizza. Did they are they on sides? 135 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 5: They have sides like fries and onion rings and things. 136 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: Sounds delicious. 137 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: It gets pizza time. 138 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 7: Give it a try, give it a try. 139 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: To shut but people, people want to know what happened. 140 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: I left early, so I'm counting on you guys to 141 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: be my eyes and ears. Tell me what you saw. 142 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: All right. 143 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 7: So we got a lot of red zone work today 144 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 7: and third down which red zone, Paul, we always always 145 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 7: started today, and uh yeah, it look kind of like 146 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 7: it has the last couple of years. 147 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 4: To be honest, it wasn't. 148 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 7: It wasn't like the Patriots offense was lighting up the 149 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 7: Patriots defense. A lot of balls on the ground. Drake 150 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 7: May had a couple interceptions during competitive periods. He described 151 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 7: one of them, which we can get into, but uh, 152 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 7: you know, I don't want to freak everybody out because 153 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 7: this is no t as and YadA, YadA, YadA, But 154 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 7: not a lot of great connections. There were a handful 155 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 7: of good connections in the red zone, but overall, I 156 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 7: would say a clunky day for the offense. 157 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: Not a lot of chemistry. 158 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 5: And I'm going to go back to the Belichick adage 159 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: that he always preached about the time of year and 160 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 5: you know, about the teaching, and it was really sort 161 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 5: of on display. Like talking to kJ Osborne a little 162 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: bit after practice, a lot of the stuff they were 163 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: doing in the tight red zone, low red zone was 164 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 5: stuff that they just they're just learning. They're literally just 165 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: learning it on the you know, on the board in 166 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: the meeting rooms this morning, running it on air, which 167 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: by the way, it didn't go very well against air 168 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: when before they they got together for both seven on 169 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: sevens and eleven on eleven. So Mike is right, the 170 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: offense was clunky. It's a good word, like the ball 171 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 5: is hitting the ground a lot. But I wouldn't necessarily 172 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: read too much into it. 173 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Evan, do you agree? 174 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: For the most part, I think the biggest thing that 175 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: I see right now is seven on seven looks different 176 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: than eleven on eleven when the line play starts to 177 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: get into it and then all of a sudden, you've 178 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: got Christian Barmore coming at you, or you got a 179 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: blitz coming off the edge. They're not picking things up 180 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: very well at the offensive line right now. I think 181 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: the biggest thing is that you have to wait till 182 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: the pads come on because you're not really right now. 183 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: You're blocking with your feet, you're not really actually hitting anybody, 184 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: So it's it's a little bit harder to block for 185 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: the offensive lineman in this setting. So we've seen this 186 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: before where the line looks really shaky and then it 187 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: does start to progress maybe a little bit. Also should 188 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: note you know a couple guys missing today. You know, 189 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: no Chukes of Korps for no mic on win, so 190 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: you're missing your top two tackles and you're going out 191 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: there and you're still trying to block guys. So there's 192 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: a lot of caveats to all this kind of stuff. 193 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: But I think the biggest thing that I see is 194 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: that seven on seven looks great eleven eleven. 195 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: To clarify, when you say block guys, there's no contact. 196 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: Right right, right, So we're not actually blocking guys, We're 197 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: just kind of shuffling our feet and trying to stay, 198 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: you know, in front of dudes, and eventually, like that's 199 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: gonna give way. Like it's not going to be, uh, 200 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: this pristine pot when you're playing like that. I think 201 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: the other thing that kJ Osborne mentioned, I know, we're 202 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: trying to not have everybody panic over the clunkiness I 203 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: think is a good word of the offense today. But 204 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: he mentioned that he played in this offense in Minnesota 205 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: for a couple of years early on in his career 206 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: as North Turner. You know, outside zone scheme and the 207 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: marriage of the run game in the pass game is 208 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: such a big part of it that until the pads 209 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: come on and the run game can start to take hold, 210 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: and then you get play action off the run game, 211 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 3: Like that's how they create a lot of what they 212 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: want to do. So you know it's gonna it's not 213 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: going to be a finished product in terms of judgment 214 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: until we see them actually running the football as an 215 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: emphasis and then play action and then he do all 216 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: the other bells and whistles. 217 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: Okay, how about the fluidity of the wide receivers and 218 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: I'm talking about mostly Poke and Bell. 219 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 7: I mean, how Baker, well, Baker, how are they looking? Yeah, 220 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 7: Baker was limited today. He warmed up and then he 221 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 7: was down on the lower field, so he didn't really participate. 222 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 7: That was a little the same Marcel's dial similar was 223 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 7: there for stretching but did not. So a couple of 224 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 7: rookies seems like a little bit maybe banged up, but. 225 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: Fluidity. I don't know, And that's question no. I mean, 226 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 4: I don't think. 227 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 7: I think the more I see Polk, the more I 228 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 7: feel like along Eleven Evans line of he's got to 229 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 7: he's got to play with some guys trying to tackle him. 230 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 7: He's not gonna show up with you know, live feet. 231 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 7: But I do think kJ Osborne had a pretty good day. 232 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 7: Haven't seen a lot from him over some of these 233 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 7: OTA practices, and felt like he was finally starting to 234 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 7: show up make some plays. 235 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: But a lot of rotation going on too. 236 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I haven't mentioned the offensive line 237 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 7: was kind of banged up, but you know it was. 238 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 7: It was kind of spin the dial no matter who 239 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 7: was a quarterback, who was you know, so all that 240 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 7: kind of like rep stuff. I mean, definitely was Drake 241 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 7: May getting kind of the second reps. 242 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: He got more reps today, I think than the other 243 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: practice that I see. 244 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was. 245 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 7: He was the second guy up in eleven's and seventh 246 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 7: was number two up. 247 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and then the yeah and. 248 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 7: The eleven on eleven drill, the seven on seven drill. 249 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 7: You buried the league, Yeah, I didn't. But it also yeah, 250 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 7: but it also when seven's it went Brissett may give. 251 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 5: You information as opposed to it's going to click. 252 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: ZAPPI you know there's a reason why that would click. 253 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean a little bit, but you know, 254 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 7: still getting some Milton reps and still getting some Zappy reps. 255 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 7: But it definitely wasn't you know Brissette. Then Zappy was 256 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 7: kind of mixed. 257 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 5: Up the bulk of the reps still, Okay, May, what. 258 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: Was the second team quarterback like he was? How else 259 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: would you like if you divvy up the reps? He 260 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: went second in the drill. 261 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: I think you added that change from what we've seen 262 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: so far. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, right now, it could be 263 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: just this particular day. As we know, we don't see 264 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: every practice, so maybe this was just his day to 265 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: get number two reps. 266 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he downplayed it a little bit afterwards and said 267 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: that they want to work with different guys. You work 268 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: with different receivers and stuff like that. So you know, 269 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: today it might have been Drake May. You're right, Today 270 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: could have been Drake May's day to be QB two, 271 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: and then tomorrow would be Bailey Zappi's day to be 272 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 3: QB two. Just so that the cycle of receivers, you know, 273 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 3: you're not working with the same three or four guys 274 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: over and over. You spread it out a little bit. 275 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 7: It just seemed too like they gave a last set 276 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 7: of reps to Jakobe after kind of a clunky period 277 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 7: defense one, you know, for what it's worth with the 278 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 7: push ups and those kind of things. But again those 279 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 7: reps were clunky again too at the end, so it 280 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 7: almost felt like they gave him one last chance to 281 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 7: kind of go out there and do it and yeah, 282 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 7: just you know, it's not clicking. 283 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: Yet for them. Defensive coaches made available before practice and 284 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: offensive oh I'm sorry, offense, Oh god, yeah, it's my problem. Anyway, 285 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: Offensive coaches made available. Van Pelt talked at length at 286 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: the podium, but everybody was, you know, in a scrum 287 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: with people anybody say anything of note that you would 288 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: that you heard in particular. 289 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 7: I mean, I just start off with Alex v Empelt 290 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 7: seeming like he is a very firm sense of what 291 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 7: he's looking for and how he wants to put it 292 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 7: into place. And you know, even going back to Osborne 293 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 7: talking about running in this offense, I think that's what's 294 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 7: coming to the forefront for me, is that this is 295 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 7: an established offense that he knows what he wants to run. 296 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 7: And you know, we'll see if they were able to 297 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 7: put it together. But I do think, you know, last 298 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 7: year we had a little bit of a false hope, 299 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 7: I guess with Bill O'Brien coming back and it felt like, 300 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 7: all right, he's going to know what he wants. But 301 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 7: I'm not sure he was in the position to fully 302 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 7: execute what he really wanted last year. And you know, 303 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 7: I think with Van Pelt, I'm hoping that he does, 304 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 7: but he just seems very clear on what he wants. 305 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 4: I talked a little bit to bick Nell. 306 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys talk to any of 307 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 7: the other guys, but you know, like he's seen out 308 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 7: of well, no bell so far. 309 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: You know, again, not a reason to panic. And no 310 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: disrespect intended. But girod Mao came right out and said, 311 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing on offense, So I 312 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: think it is Alex Van s Pelt's offense and he 313 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: is going to be able to do what he wants 314 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, you know, until it doesn't work. 315 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know. The biggest things I I 316 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: listened to Van pell for a while, but I bounced 317 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: around after that, and I think the couple big things 318 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: did seem like they're pretty happy with Drake May's footwork 319 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: in the progress he's made with his photos. 320 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: See McCartney talked. I was looking for the quote here, 321 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 5: but I don't think I wrote it down. 322 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like they were pretty excited that he's 323 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: made as much progress in the period of time that 324 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: he has, and they haven't touched his throwing motion, his 325 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: upper body mechanics anything like that. They're kind of doing 326 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: it in steps, and I go from the ground up, 327 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: you know, fo work first and then maybe tweaks to 328 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: the other things later on. But right now the focus 329 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: is on let's time the feet and the eyes. Let's 330 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: make sure those things are timed up and then we 331 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: can start maybe tweaking with some of the other things 332 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: that we would like to change. But overall I thought 333 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: that they were both Van Pelt said flat out, Jacoby's 334 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: the starter right now, as we all know. But I 335 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: think they were pretty happy with what they've seen from 336 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: Drake May so far. 337 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would say that a good sign. And 338 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: it might be a minor thing, but like when Drake 339 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: May talked at the end of practice, he used a 340 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: lot of the same terminology that both Alex Van Pelt 341 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 5: and more specifically, I thought TC McCartney used what Evan 342 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 5: just said, you know, talking about marrying the eyes and 343 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 5: the feet and the timing and the routes, and that's 344 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: one of the things that I I thought May was 345 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 5: really looking. I think he was asked a question, what 346 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 5: are some of the things that he feels like he 347 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: may be on schedule or ahead as opposed to some 348 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 5: of the things that he needs to work on, And 349 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 5: he talked about some of that timing stuff being, you know, 350 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 5: some of the stuff that he's been working on and 351 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 5: feels good about. And then sort of getting the plays 352 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 5: called spitting them out in the huddle, you know, the 353 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 5: operation whatnot is something that is still coming because Van 354 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 5: Pelt talked about like with so many of these guys 355 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: they never did that, They never called plays in a huddle. Yeah, 356 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: they do it a lot at the line of scrimmage. 357 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 5: So I thought it was a positive sign to hear 358 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 5: May using the same kind of words that Evan just 359 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: used from the coaches. So obviously it's syncing in. He's 360 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: getting the message. 361 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Yep, good stuff, all right. So eight five five PATS 362 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: five hundred is the aceticke at hotline web radio at 363 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: Patriot dot com is the email addressing. If you have 364 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: any specific questions you want to ask about what was 365 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: seen today, call in, write in. We'll get to that. 366 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: What else you guys want to discuss while we're setting 367 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: the tape? I mentioned on the top justin Jefferson's deal 368 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: because I think it has a ripple effect throughout the league. 369 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 7: You know, I don't I don't know how many specifics 370 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 7: I want to get into, but I think there's some 371 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 7: really interesting stuff with kickoffs going on, and I have 372 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 7: a feeling that a lot of teams are figuring it 373 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 7: out and trying to figure out how they're going to 374 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 7: attack this. I know, I forget Paul, we were talking 375 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 7: which team. 376 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: Said Kansas. 377 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 7: As a kickbucker because you need somebody to tackle. So 378 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 7: you know, I don't want to give anything away, but 379 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 7: you know, you're just you're seeing some similar experimentation by 380 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 7: the Patriots, and I just I don't really know what 381 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 7: to expect. It almost seems like these teams are all 382 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 7: going to kind of come into this season with their 383 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 7: own plan as to how they're going to. 384 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: Approach the kickoffs. 385 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 7: And I think it's going to be kind of interesting 386 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 7: to see what a. 387 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: Special teams thing that I have. I don't know, a 388 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 5: little bit interesting. 389 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: I'll give you a little behind the scenes stuff and 390 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: i'll drop a name. I was having lunch with Ernie 391 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: Adams when we were shooting the schedule release video and 392 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: we're eating our eating our salad. I said, you know, Ernie, 393 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: I'd really love to pick you and bill his brain 394 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: and see what you would cook up for this new 395 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: uh kickoff. And he looks up and you know, he's like, Yeah, 396 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: A lot of it's gonna have to do with blocking, 397 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: and you know, you know blocking schemes that you come 398 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: up with. I said, yeah, I think if you can 399 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: do it right, I think you're going to break somebody 400 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: he goes, I agree, Yeah, yeah. 401 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it. 402 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: It feels like it go either way. Some of the 403 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: ones that we saw today were pretty rough in terms 404 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: of the blocking, but again, you can't really block anybody, 405 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: so you're just kind of a speed bump anyways, But 406 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: then there were a couple that it seemed like they 407 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: got the seal that they wanted and kind of broke 408 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 3: it a little bit. But the different you know, we 409 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: can't really tell you the different like x's and umbers 410 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: of what they were doing, but there was a lot 411 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: of you can see like what Deuce is saying that 412 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: there's experimenting with some different things that well. 413 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 5: They're experimenting how they're kicking the ball, even down to that. 414 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and if you don't know the answer 415 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: to say, I don't know, but are the rules that 416 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 2: no one can move until the ball is caught or 417 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: hits the ground or hits the ground. Yeah, so everyone 418 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: Like when I mean still, I don't mean like you know, uh, 419 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: you know, motion still, but like you can't cross the 420 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: line still. 421 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: You can move really, it's like a false start. 422 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: It's like a snap. 423 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 5: You're at the line. Yeah, you're at the line. The 424 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: only guy that's moving is the kicker. The other ten 425 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 5: guys have to be stationary, I believe. 426 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Okay, and then once the ball hits the ground or 427 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: is caught, that's the snap that acts as the snap 428 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: of the ball. So I think that what about spacing. 429 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's everybody's in that ten yard box. 430 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: To be in a ten yard. 431 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 3: There's a certain amount of guys that can't remember at 432 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: the top of my head that have to be on 433 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: each side of the ball, just like there would be 434 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: in normal And. 435 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: Does it matter where the ball receiver is? Can he 436 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: be as far back as he wants? 437 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: Does he have to be with there's a landing zone. 438 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: There's a landing zone that he has to be in. 439 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, well you would need to be in like 440 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: I think you would want to be in the zone 441 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 5: where the ball is going to get kicked. 442 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: Oh I know, But like can you start, like, for example, 443 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: further back and you know, get a running start type 444 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: of thing if. 445 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: You wanted to. It's a little bit more like a 446 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: punt in that aspect, at least of what we've seen 447 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: of it so far and what you see it in 448 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: the spring leaves and stuff like that. It feels a 449 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: little bit more like a punt because of just the 450 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: way that the ball comes down and then everybody's you know, 451 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: kind of coming down on you. Yeah. I just I 452 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: think the big thing with it is going to be 453 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: obviously the blocking schemes and like what's the best way 454 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: to kind of create those alleys for these guys to 455 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: run through because the team that's covering the kick gets 456 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: on you really really quickly. And that's what I think 457 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: we saw a little bit of today was a lot 458 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: of early penetration of like, okay, like this guy's just 459 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: he's just got a ten yard sprint and if I don't, 460 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 3: if there's nobody in his way, then he's through the 461 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and there's that's it, right, And then 462 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you could really be in a 463 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: position where you're backed up because your kickoff guy gets 464 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 3: tackled pretty quickly. So I think that that's the biggest question, 465 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: is like, because you can't move into the ball's cot 466 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: or hits the ground, you have to have eyes on 467 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: the ball first of all, which we saw some little 468 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: tricks that they were using today of how to keep 469 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: some guys kind of know when the ball it's the ground, right, 470 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: because if everybody's facing this way and their back is 471 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: to the returner, then they have no idea when he's 472 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: not the bag. 473 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: I think, like you said, how do you kick it? 474 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: How do you block it? But also from a returner standpoint, 475 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: there's probably strategy. Do I wait half a beat and 476 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: let them declare and then make my move or do 477 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: I just do what they tell me and assume that 478 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: the blocks are going to be there, sort of like 479 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: as a running back. I think there's strategy there from 480 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: a returning stand Yeah. 481 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: I think that's what you said, the word for it. 482 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 4: That's what's interesting to me. 483 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 7: A lot of time these rule changes happen and it's like, oh, 484 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: we're just trying to get rid of the kickoff. But 485 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 7: this feels like there actually are going to be competing 486 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 7: strategies that each team's going to enter the season with 487 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 7: that you're probably gonna have to see some course corrections, 488 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 7: because I wonder if some teams have it totally wrong. 489 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 7: Perhaps I don't know, Maybe you know it's all going 490 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 7: to maybe even out and generally the returns will be 491 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 7: the same, but I you know, maybe one team's got 492 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 7: some kind of unique thing up their sleeve that all 493 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 7: of a sudden, everybody's going to steal just such a 494 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 7: unique moment in sports, were all of a sudden, a 495 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 7: whole part of the game is going to change, and 496 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 7: strategically you don't know exactly, especially like going into like 497 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 7: do you hide it in. 498 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: The preseason two? Like do you you know? You guys 499 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: you know? 500 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 7: Are you trying to keep those things to yourself. 501 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Or do you feel you have to practice? 502 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 503 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: Right? 504 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing to me too, is like 505 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: the type of returner that you put back there. I 506 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: think changes now because I think you're gonna have to 507 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: make the first guy miss. I don't think you're gonna 508 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: consistently get the first guy blocked the way that the 509 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: strategy is. So with a typical kickoff, you have like 510 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: that straight line Jalen Rager type of speed. But now 511 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: I feel like you almost need that Marcus Jones like 512 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: jitterbug back there because he's gonna have to find the daylight. 513 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: It's not going to be as simple as just you know, 514 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: one cut and go ors type of thing. So I 515 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: wonder if that changes it too, where you have to 516 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: have somebody back there. That's a little bit elusive, like 517 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: you're not gonna be able to. 518 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: Just and are you allowed to like match up pre stuff? 519 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: For example, I know he's not in the league anymore, 520 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: but if Aaron Donald was one of the guys in 521 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: the line, he's gonna beat his man. So are you 522 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: allowed to, Oh, there's Aaron Donald, Okay, our best blocker. 523 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: You run down there and match up with him? Like, 524 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: are you allowed to do that? 525 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: You know, that's a great question. 526 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 5: And you don't have that far to run to do that. Yeah, 527 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: because you're so close together now, and it falls kind 528 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: of under the category of when you started this, I 529 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 5: don't know, and I don't know specifically, but isn't the 530 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: zone doesn't it go to the goal line? Yes, the 531 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 5: landing zone, So like you can line up to your 532 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 5: your your question about can the return or be back, 533 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: and then run up and catch it. 534 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 535 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, because you can line up all the way, even 536 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 5: if you had to line up in the zone. 537 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: That's the goal line that said all the balls are 538 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: going to go in the end zone anyway. 539 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 5: I think that's the one chance that something changes. 540 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: Is that tier? 541 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: It is because it's the twenty The touch back is 542 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 5: the twenty five. 543 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: Now I mean the. 544 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: Thirty good radio thirty right, text me that the touch 545 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 5: back is the thirty now right, So you might see 546 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 5: more teams try to, you know, make them get it 547 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 5: out to the thirty, you know, without just giving it 548 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 5: to them. I don't really, I mean, I could be 549 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 5: completely wrong on this. I don't envision like an uptick 550 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: and kickoff returns for touchdowns. I think it's going to 551 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: be hard. I think it's hard. It's just like running 552 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 5: plays like you see long runs every once in a while, 553 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 5: but not very often. And I think it's going to 554 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 5: be kind of like that. 555 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: I mean, the only reason I thought maybe you might 556 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: see an uptick is because you know, you don't have 557 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: deep safeties anymore. You don't have that last may well 558 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: you could, well, you'd have to spin them around and 559 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: have them. 560 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: Kind of just like on regular kickoffs, because some guys 561 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 5: don't like b line to the returner, and from what 562 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: we've seen so far, there really hasn't been a change 563 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 5: in the returner like skill set. There's been all the 564 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 5: sort of normal candidates. 565 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: I don't know. 566 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I do think it's it's I would be 567 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: it would be worth talking to guys like Bill and 568 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: you know, just to see what he could come up with. 569 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 5: I think that would be interesting for sure, you know, 570 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: like when you were talking to Ernie about it. But 571 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: I just kind of think it's going to end up 572 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 5: being something that will take some getting used to at 573 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 5: the beginning. There might be some missteps because teams just 574 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 5: aren't necessarily up to speed yet. That's why I think 575 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 5: you do have to do it in the preseason. 576 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something to look forward to. 577 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely different. 578 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: It'll be different. 579 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: I think by the middle of the season you won't 580 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 5: even bat an eye. 581 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: I feel like I agree with you though, Paul. That 582 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: returns for touchdowns maybe not, but like gashes, you know, 583 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: like twenty twenty five yard returns. Yeah, like a run 584 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: play I could run. I could see that happening a 585 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: little bit more. I think the most fascinating thing is 586 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: it is basically like a run blocking scheme, and so like, 587 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: do they run basically like power or they're like trying 588 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: to fold it and then kind of pull somebody through 589 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: the middle. I also think that in the spring league 590 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 3: is the most fascinating part to me was the two returners. 591 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: So you have two returners deep and then you do reverse. 592 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: You can do reverses, you can do fake reverses, and 593 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: you can do all that kind of stuff. And if 594 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: you get that down, the reverse and the pitch and 595 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, you get it down. Some 596 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 3: teams in the XFL or whatever league it was, they 597 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 3: had some really big you do have to do. 598 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: I think you have to have the two returners. 599 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: So you're not allowed to forward pass. 600 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Here, right, No, it's like a lateral no. 601 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 5: But I do think that Evan's point is valid because 602 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 5: that's a pretty big landing zone and everybody's really close 603 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 5: to the ball. So I don't know if you can 604 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 5: just run the risk of only one guy being back 605 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 5: there and you kick it away from him and make 606 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 5: him cover a lot of ground. It's not like the 607 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: ball's traveling sixty five seventy yards and the guy has 608 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 5: time to go and get it now. It's it's not 609 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: traveling that far. There's much less time to I mean, 610 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 5: I think you need two guys. 611 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: I was a head coach, I might have to devote 612 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: an entire practice on this when no one's watching. 613 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 7: Well, we've seen at the last two practices that they've 614 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 7: pluted some extensive time. 615 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: And what is working. 616 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 7: What isn't you know it's almost got Paul interested in 617 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 7: special teams. 618 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: It's less than one percent. 619 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: He's interesting. 620 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it has. 621 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: I am curious. 622 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 5: I will I will admit to being curious to see 623 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: how to see if friend's right. 624 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it has the impact of the pitch 625 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: clock in baseball, but I think it is an interesting 626 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: addition to the kickoff. 627 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it should make the play a little bit 628 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: more competitive. 629 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I If it becomes a problem and 630 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: like this, all of a sudden, there's like a rash 631 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 5: of returns. 632 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: Everybody's just going to kick it through the end. 633 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: Zone, Yeah right, yeah, all right again eight five to 634 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: five pass five hundred is a sticking outline web radio, 635 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: patres dot com. What else? What else do we got? 636 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: This is my usual things that might only be interested 637 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: to me. 638 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 7: But I mean, you know, judeon Uce jenningson't really play 639 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 7: too much, so it's just it's really putting a spotlight 640 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 7: for me on defense with O'Shane Jimenez and Christian Ellis 641 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 7: and Joe Giles Harris, like these second level special teams 642 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 7: kind of guys. Now, this could just be the starters 643 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 7: aren't playing. These guys aren't going to be doing anything 644 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 7: once it actually matters. But you know, these you just 645 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 7: you have to at least pay attention to these guys 646 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 7: because that's who's on the roster now. And we know 647 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 7: what happened last year with Jude On going down. I 648 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 7: just you know, if one of these guys could maybe emerge. 649 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 7: We haven't seen Taki Taki either. 650 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 4: He's been out the last. 651 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 7: Couple of weeks, so you know, just that overall defensive 652 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 7: depth it's a little bit lacking. And you know, even 653 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 7: with with Gonzales, I feel like they're a little light 654 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 7: with him, like they're getting more looks at the Marco 655 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 7: Wilson's of the world and they're taking a look at 656 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 7: Isaiah Bolden and the slot continues. You know, like that's 657 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 7: that's a big one to look at. 658 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: I think with with Bolden, with his. 659 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 7: Size, he just doesn't really seem like a traditional star 660 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 7: slot cornerback type guy that's quick and inside and can 661 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 7: go both ways. He almost has more of a safety 662 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 7: body type. So you know, some some something's going on 663 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 7: on defense with some of the depth issues that they have, 664 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 7: which again maybe just interesting to me and everyone wants 665 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 7: to top quarterback and receivers, but that's just some of 666 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 7: the stuff that that's clocking my. 667 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: Rdar right now. 668 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 669 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 5: The corners I've really watched too, you know, Austin and Bolden. 670 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: Like you said, I I think there's a chance that 671 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 5: that's like three and four. 672 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Alex Austin's been decent. 673 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: He made a nice breakup today on an out route 674 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 5: in the end zone. Those those are the guys that 675 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 5: might might have bigger roles than I think people think. 676 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 5: And you know, it is always one. I know, you 677 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 5: guys both told me the first practice that I wasn't 678 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 5: at about bold and working out in the slought a 679 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: lot and still seeing that yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. 680 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean no Jonathan Jones, no Marcus Jones right in 681 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: any major capacity. So those are the two guys I 682 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: expect to be in that star role eventually, but it 683 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: is interesting to to just see who the depth pieces are. 684 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: But I think offensively, I just I still consider continue 685 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: to be fascinated by the juju of all of this, 686 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: and like they're doing special teams and he's off with 687 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: Tyler hughes By himself because he has no role in 688 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: the kicking game. He's the most expensive receiver on the team, 689 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: one of the most highly paid players period on the team, 690 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: and he has no versatility, no nothing, and we don't 691 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: even know if he's good enough to play receiver in 692 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: the first place. Now, today was one of his better 693 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: practices catch up. I'll give him that, But I just 694 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: find it fascinating that you used to talk about the 695 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame group, right like when that group didn't 696 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: do special teams and Gronk wasn't out there running, you 697 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: were like, all right, fine, but then when you see 698 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 3: Juju Smith Schuster doing it and you're like, man, like, 699 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: what is his role on this team right now? And 700 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: it's a little bit tenuous at the moment. 701 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Okay, web Radio at pats dot com. We'll let our listeners. 702 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: Way in Micah in South Dakota writes in not kidding 703 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: when I say no. More than five minutes after you 704 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: guys went live, I saw all the QB stats from 705 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: today's OTA on X formally known as Twitter. I cannot 706 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: express how dumb I think that is. And it just 707 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: makes me appreciate the PU cruise analysis even more. None 708 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: of you mentioned the stats when you first talked about 709 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: the QBS outside of the two interceptions Drake May through. 710 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: I'd rather hear how you thought everybody looked versus the 711 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: results of what happened. I test is the best test 712 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: at this point, and in my opinion, so thank you. 713 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: Question is, do you think Drake May will receive first 714 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: team reps at all during the beginning parts of the 715 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: season or are they just gonna let Jacoby handle those duties? 716 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, But it seems like they 717 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: are grooming Jacoby to be the starter and letting Drake 718 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: May ease his way into the NFL. 719 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely are doing that. 720 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't know I will. I mean, he will get 721 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: first team reps to see eventually before probably preseason. They're 722 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: going to need to see how he looks with who 723 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: they've deemed first team. He's going to get reps. 724 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 7: Now, tell there was nothing today from Jacoby Brissette that 725 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 7: made me think this guy is he's just an established 726 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 7: veteran starter. It just, you know, it was all kind 727 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 7: of clunky. So by that measurement, I would say, I don't. 728 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 7: I don't think anything would would surprise me. 729 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what the plan is, 730 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 5: but I don't I think I think I feel comfortable 731 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 5: saying that. I feel like Prissette's going to open the 732 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 5: season as the starter. And if that's the case and 733 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: he's going to be the number one guy through training camp, 734 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 5: I think that you have to prepare him to start. 735 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: Like it's a different position, Like you need the starting 736 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: quarterback to be the starting quarterback in practice too. Like 737 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 5: I just think that you need to do that now 738 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 5: at some point in the season when they're ready to say, 739 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: you know, is this the week or maybe it's next week, 740 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 5: then Drake May is going to have to get number 741 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 5: one reps practice that we probably won't ever see. 742 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: I just find it every time we watch these these 743 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: guys throw, there's just something added bonus to Drake May's 744 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: skill set that I just don't think that Jacobe will 745 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: ever touch a little side arms. You know, you have 746 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: just I think better downfield accuracy, like not really downfield. 747 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: We're not talking about like five or eight yards twenty five. Yeah, 748 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: even just like in these red zone periods, you know 749 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: he throws the one into the bucket, did Juju Smith 750 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: Schuster just perfectly in stride in the back corner of 751 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: the end zone, and then you watch Jakobe make try 752 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: to make the same throw and it's just not quite 753 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: as pretty as the one that you see Drake make. 754 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: And uh, he threw the two picks at the end 755 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: of practice. If he hadn't thrown. 756 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: Those two picks, why do you think they happened? 757 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: The first one was I think a little bit more 758 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: worried something in the second one. Oh yeah, the second 759 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: one was like a he read Man Gibson red zone, 760 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: Gibson sat. He threw it like he was gonna keep 761 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: it on communication. Yeah, that's how well he. 762 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 5: I'm curious your thoughts on the. 763 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: The first one worries me a little bit more because 764 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: those are the air mails that we haven't seen. That's 765 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: what I thought. He overthrew the under Yeah, I think 766 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: he was going for the second level. Yeah, we all 767 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: thought the scene, you know, it was like a flood concept, 768 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 3: so you had like the clear out vertical and then 769 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: the corner was filling in and he was trying to 770 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: throw the corner and the window I thought was there, 771 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: and he just airmailed it to the deep threat. 772 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 5: Because it was hard to tell, like there was a 773 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 5: deep it was like a deep over and you know 774 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 5: there was one underneath, so you could have said, maybe 775 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: he underthrew the deep guy, but I don't think he did. 776 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: So what in your mind in a situation like that, 777 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: or maybe they're the same. Overthrowing or underthrowing overthrow? I 778 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: think you can't go wrong if you're long. 779 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: I just think when you overthrow it, like if you underthrow, 780 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: it's because you don't have the arm strength to get 781 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: it there. Yeah, if you do that, then you're not 782 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback. 783 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 5: Right. 784 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: If you overthrow it, we can work on the mechanics 785 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: of why you overthrowed it and get it to be 786 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: more accurate. I thought the interception was just a little 787 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: bit of that overthrow kind of air mail that we 788 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: saw at U and C from time to time, where 789 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: the ball just kind of he just lost loses the 790 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: ball and it's like whoa, where you know, where is 791 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: that going sort of thing. I didn't love his body 792 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: language afterwards. Either. 793 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 5: Don't want body language in general today because he struggled. 794 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 5: I mean, if we bury in any of the lead, 795 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 5: we're going to bury that. He didn't throw the ball 796 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 5: that well today, especially after last week. I thought there 797 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 5: was some sort of momentum that we were kind of 798 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: like had a little pep in our step. 799 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: You know. 800 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 5: Again, I don't I buried the lead intentionally because I 801 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: just didn't think it was all that important, but that 802 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 5: some of the body language that Evan's talking about was evident, 803 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: like the head went down, yeah, not like mac Jones level, 804 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 5: but before anybody was like you know, oh, you know, 805 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 5: I just felt like he looked like he was a guy. 806 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that one I think he should have hit 807 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: the throw, and I think you and. 808 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 5: I think he knew he missed the throw that he's 809 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 5: got to make. Yeah, and it's not an easy throw, 810 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 5: but it's it's an NFL throw. 811 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 7: I think to having seen a couple of rookie quarterbacks 812 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 7: now have down days, like I remain encouraged by you know, 813 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 7: and I think Evan laid it out with question you know, look, 814 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 7: these kind of days are going to happen, and you know, 815 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 7: I think really good insight into you know, that one interception. 816 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 7: So but he continues to just show athleticism and you know, 817 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 7: even when he just like kind of tucks it and 818 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 7: run and nothing's there and it's a nothing playing. 819 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: It goes as an incomplete in the book. 820 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 7: But you can just see that he instantly when he's 821 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 7: gonna run like, he's gonna have some bursts and it's 822 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 7: gonna be something. 823 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: To deal with. 824 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 5: That's gonna be an element that's impossible to evaluate until 825 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,479 Speaker 5: the real games play, even like preseason games. 826 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: That's it. 827 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 5: That's irrelevant, even like that's going to be a part 828 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 5: of his game that I think that is going to 829 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 5: augment his ability to there's a reason why he was 830 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 5: so good on third downs in college, like. 831 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: Sixteen rushing touchdowns over his last two years too. So 832 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: in the red zone when he if there's nothing there 833 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 3: and you he can take off. There's no spy or 834 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: anything in the low part of the field. And he's 835 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: got that sort of like mahomesy and running style where 836 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: like it doesn't look like he's that fast, but nobody 837 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 3: can catch it totally. And it's just like this weird 838 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: thing a tape where you're just like, doesn't look like 839 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: he's that fast, but then the linebackers are catching, Yeah, 840 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 3: he's not catching. 841 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: Mahomes has such field awareness, right, he knows where anybody 842 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: and before anybody, like we're not saying this obviously Mahomes 843 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: in Yeah, I think. 844 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 3: He might be he might be. 845 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: Jacket and Abba writes in about the kickoff new kickoff rule, 846 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 2: how about it, don't get greedy approach to the new 847 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: kickoff field. Nine offensive linemen and two returners line up 848 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: the old line for a set play. Once the returner 849 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 2: catches the ball, your goal is to get ten to 850 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: twenty eight yards on the return, not to get a 851 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: home run for a touchdown. The kicking team may get 852 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: caught off guard with a bunch of small defensive backs 853 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 2: and linebackers who can't take on the nine offensive lineman 854 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 2: one on one. 855 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 5: Okay, So there's a couple of things I mean that 856 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 5: I think you'll see some I'm not poo pooing this 857 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 5: because I think there'll there'll be some different things like 858 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 5: that that are, you know, changing things up. 859 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: Wow, we have a new box box. 860 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: Box this new places looking good. 861 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: Thank you mas. 862 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: Dude, do we get a cut on this? 863 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 5: But the first thing we advertise brought to you like 864 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 5: you don't generally have nine offensive linemen active exactly number one, 865 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: but number two. If you run nine offensive linemen on 866 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 5: your kickoff team, the other team's not going to combat 867 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 5: that with you know, nine defensive backs. They're going to 868 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 5: put linebackers and bigger bodies to take on those blocks 869 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 5: on the field. 870 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: You know, like. 871 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 5: Even if you wanted to sort of like bring something 872 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 5: new out, they can match up the personnel. Like you see, 873 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 5: It's just like when you run a play, like if 874 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 5: you have like your Nickel package or your Din package 875 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 5: on there, and the other team comes out in three 876 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 5: tight ends and they're going to power the football like 877 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: you call time out, you know, if you can't get 878 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 5: the right personnel on the field and stuff like that. 879 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 5: So it's not just as easy as well you put 880 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 5: all your linemen out there against all these small guys 881 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 5: and you block them up. Well, the other team is 882 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: going to match personnel too. 883 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: Maybe you can have a Toyota in the ends with 884 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: the sun roof. The kicker gets it in the sunroof, 885 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: you get two points. Anyway, I'm for it. If you 886 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: want to see Toyota's best offers, including those not seen 887 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: on TV, go to buy at toyota dot com. It's 888 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: Toyota's official website for deals from the official vehicle of 889 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. Toyota. 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Could do without the pollen. 909 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 4: But I hear. 910 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 9: Thursday is gonna rain, so I sound a little nasily. 911 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 9: It's the pollen far away, No questions perfect. 912 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know. 913 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 3: We've been asking you a lot about Drake and the 914 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 3: time you've been. 915 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 4: Here, just because there's so much interest in his progression. 916 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: As you've stacked the days together. How what have you 917 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 2: observed from his progression? He's doing well. 918 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 9: He's headed in the right direction. You know a lot 919 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 9: of times people think it's this longitude and'll just straight 920 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 9: line up to the top, and realistically it's up and down, 921 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 9: up and down, up and down. But hopefully you end 922 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 9: up still from left to right going to in the 923 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 9: right direction. So he's doing well, you guys, I'm sure 924 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 9: we'll evaluate him today at practice. 925 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: What if he hasn't asked you about Joe Milton, Well. 926 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 9: I think the easy thing to say is cannon of 927 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 9: an arm, but just you know, his his energy. He 928 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 9: has a natural leadership skill as well, and he's been 929 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 9: great for the run left tackle. 930 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 5: You've got troops and you've got Kayden kind of go through. 931 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: A similar transition from one side of the other. How 932 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: much do you see them. 933 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: Working with each other and are they kind of on 934 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: like the similar track right now? 935 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're on a similar track. 936 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 9: Those guys are out there competing, and I would say, 937 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 9: you know the one where when you look at those 938 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 9: guys's versatility. You know, obviously we look at Big Mike 939 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 9: saying he has the right side lockdown, but these guys 940 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 9: are all competing, They're able to slide to different spots, 941 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 9: and you know they're working out of a sense of 942 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 9: abundance where you know those guys are working together trying 943 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 9: to get better, and you know, once training camp gets here, 944 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 9: we'll see what happens. 945 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: Do you feel good. 946 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 5: About those two at left tackle or do you kind 947 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 5: of maybe want to keep your eye on what else? 948 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 9: I mean, I think, look, we're always trying to bring 949 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 9: in good players. Those guys are doing well. We'll see, 950 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 9: We'll see what happens as the roster continue to play out. Realistically, 951 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 9: we're still early in the process and training camp will 952 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 9: reveal a lot. 953 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure you don't want to do you know everything 954 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: in the book and right now. 955 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: Is there a certain things you wanted to take away 956 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 2: from this spring or maybe if it's. 957 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 10: Like one big thing you want to learn to apotiate? 958 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the biggest saying this has been the goal. 959 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 2: Downald is for Drake, for everyone else to learn. 960 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 9: Have a basic understanding of the fundamentals and the extend 961 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 9: and os Bill Carmarderie and get out of here healthy. 962 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 9: That's the goal for Strid. 963 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 8: How would you describe how Alex beIN a TC you know, 964 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 8: deal with the quarterbacks. 965 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 4: Is there a pecking order? 966 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 9: Is there someone who has more more of a heavier hand. 967 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: How is that? 968 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 969 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 9: A VP, And this is common around the league with 970 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 9: offensive coordinators. Usually offensive coordinators coach the starting quarterback. 971 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 11: You know. 972 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 9: With that being said, VP and those guys have done 973 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 9: a good job making sure the message is the same. 974 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 9: But when it's all said and down, AVP. 975 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: Is that's the heavier hand. 976 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 9: To use your words, I like about you talking about 977 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 9: like the. 978 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 3: One you on that right side. 979 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: You said like everyone season as having it lockdown, but 980 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: not like that's not necessarily true. 981 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 3: Are you talking more in terms of just like the 982 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: competition for that spot or in terms of having coffer movie. 983 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 9: For Yeah, just just more of the competition. Look one 984 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 9: thing about Big Mike. Remember he came in here as 985 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 9: a guard and so be able to play garden tackles 986 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 9: definitely something that gets you paid. I might got paid, 987 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 9: but it's more about you know, his versatility. 988 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: Is there any interest in telling the best side? 989 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 9: Is primarily uh to be transparent and not right now. 990 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 3: Coach obviously isn't something you need to work on and 991 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 3: coach out. But what specifically do you need. 992 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 9: To work on with Sorry, well, I used to have 993 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 9: the green dot, so I can't hear sometimes, you know, 994 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 9: Matty p and people yelling in my ears. 995 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 3: With Joe Milton, obviously don't have to work on the 996 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 3: arm strength. But what are you what do you hope 997 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 3: he gets out of spring? 998 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 5: What are you specifically working with it? 999 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, the number one trait for any quarterback in my eyes, 1000 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 9: And this is I guess the philosophical thing is just 1001 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 9: decision making. It's nice to have a big arm, but 1002 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 9: if you can't make the right decision, I mean you'll 1003 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 9: be throwing cannonballs, you know, to the other side. That 1004 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 9: was the same. But you know, accuracy, you know, competitiveness, 1005 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 9: all that stuff is definitely important. 1006 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: Coachmans it kind of been. It seems like in the 1007 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: copy of Jeff Turtley's practices. 1008 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 9: Is that more about making sure that young guys kind 1009 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 9: of earned their spot or is it more about making 1010 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 9: sure practice runs spool. I think it's a combination of 1011 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 9: the two. I will say there are no starters. I 1012 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 9: mean it's easy for us right now with no pads on, 1013 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 9: to say, well, this guy probably can do X, Y 1014 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 9: and Z based on what he's done in the past. 1015 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 9: We're trying to move forward from the past. It's not 1016 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 9: a it's not a what have you done for me? 1017 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 9: You know what what have you done in the past 1018 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 9: is what have you done for me lately? And that's 1019 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 9: why we're trying to continue to build that competitive nature 1020 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 9: amongst the team. But there are no depth charts, like seriously, like, 1021 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 9: if you look out here today, you'll see people that 1022 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 9: we consider starters rolling with the different group. So don't 1023 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 9: I wouldn't look too much into that. 1024 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: Happier you drop with how efficient things have been when 1025 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: you guys are on the field here, you know, new staff, 1026 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: just in terms of not a lot of wasted time 1027 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: making sure you're checking. 1028 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 9: Outportunity to it's been great, you know, not only out 1029 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 9: here as far as from a scheduling purpose, but even 1030 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 9: in time so we're in the classrooms, everything's been running 1031 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 9: pretty smooth. Once again, though we're owing oh, like you know, 1032 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 9: everyone's trying to still find their way. And this isn't 1033 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 9: the last iteration of our team. 1034 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 2: This year almost lives with the size of the staff. 1035 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: How are you find in the process of making sure. 1036 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 11: Your resources, the coaching staff are allocated to that everybody's involved. 1037 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: In playing a role. 1038 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, I've had one on one conversations with all of 1039 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 9: our staff members just to make sure that we're on 1040 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 9: the same page, not only this year, but also from 1041 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 9: a developmental standpoint on where they want to go. We 1042 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 9: have we have staff meetings each year, every day and 1043 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 9: once again, we're we're continuing to jail every day and 1044 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 9: hopefully by the time we get to the season, we're 1045 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 9: ready to rock. 1046 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: Understand, it's sorry. 1047 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 9: One more thing, and I will say this, no, because 1048 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 9: you know, stream of thought. I will say this, there 1049 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 9: comes a point in time where like you have to 1050 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 9: lean on the experts. And I'm not standing up here 1051 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 9: like I have all the answers because I don't whether 1052 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 9: it's from a head coaching standpoint or a defensive standpoint 1053 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 9: or offensive standpoint. So I'm leaning on those guys. They're 1054 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 9: really you know, they're teaching me at the same time 1055 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 9: on the offensive side of the ball. So I think 1056 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 9: it's important that those guys get those those those reps. 1057 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 7: Good. 1058 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm good. 1059 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm good with that. 1060 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 3: I just want to ask what something you've learned about 1061 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: your offense through the OTA process couldn't have known until 1062 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: you saw all the players and coaches on the build, I. 1063 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 9: Would say just the you know, the overall intelligence and look, 1064 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 9: we have a very competent UH staff on I would 1065 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 9: say all sides of the ball. But what I will 1066 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 9: say is like the early down stuff has looked pretty good. 1067 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 9: And once again, there's only probably three trees to fall 1068 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 9: off of as far as early down stuff. Now, as 1069 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 9: you know today, you'll see us working in the red 1070 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 9: area and third down. That's where you can really see 1071 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 9: the creativity of offensive coordinators. 1072 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 7: See Belichick out here at the last open ot is what. 1073 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: Was it like to have him done? 1074 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: It was great? 1075 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 9: It was great. 1076 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 1077 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,919 Speaker 9: You know, Steve and I we've we've been through a lot, 1078 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 9: uh great friends, and I'm happy for him and he 1079 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 9: came out here. He was happy for me as well. 1080 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 9: So there's no there's no problem there. It's like a brother. 1081 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: I WoT you talk about leaning on the experts, What 1082 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: should you leaned on mcado when it comes to some 1083 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: of the head coaching stuff that you're still. 1084 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 9: Getting used to your Yeah, you know, Mcadow's been a 1085 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 9: great resource. Uh, Slater's been a great resource. Evan's been 1086 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 9: a great resource. All those guys that have been into 1087 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 9: different programs. It's been great to you know, use those 1088 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 9: guys as sounding boards and really, look, I only know 1089 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 9: one way I played my. 1090 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 2: Entire career here. 1091 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 9: It's good to hear some of those outside perspectives, whether 1092 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 9: we're talking about out here on the field scheduling all 1093 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 9: those things, uh, and then a VP and the rest 1094 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 9: of the coordinators as well, having that input. 1095 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 4: And now great moments in. 1096 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 2: History. 1097 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 5: My point of the thing that we were talking about yesterday, like, 1098 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 5: you're afraid to find out something good about mac? 1099 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 3: What what am I like? 1100 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: I like to do some research we might actually find out. 1101 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 5: So now you want to compare him to everybody, right, 1102 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 5: I just want to know if those numbers, well, I'm 1103 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 5: going to compare all those numbers to everybody. Then he's 1104 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 5: in the thirties, okay, in the league. 1105 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 2: In most things. But I'd like to know what this is. 1106 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 3: Okay, But you don't want to know what he's like 1107 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: you I do want to know. 1108 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 5: But when we talk about all the other stuff that star. 1109 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: When did I say that, oh, those aren't good numbers. 1110 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: We talked about him yesterday and we said those aren't 1111 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 2: good what all the all the you know, his passer 1112 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 2: rating and all that stuff. 1113 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 5: The only thing I mentioned yesterday was I did think 1114 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 5: Houston blitzed a lot, and you just told me. The 1115 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 5: guy said he blitzed five times, So I was right. 1116 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 5: I didn't think Houston blitzed a lot in the game. 1117 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 2: Okay, they didn't, but that now you're changing the goal posts. 1118 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm not changing any goal posts. 1119 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 5: You read off his numbers against the blitz, right, sixty 1120 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 5: attempts for three hundred and fifty yards. 1121 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 3: I said, those aren't great numbers. 1122 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,479 Speaker 2: I don't know if they are. 1123 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's not. 1124 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: So you know what the numbers did. 1125 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 5: I don't care what anybody else does. Three hundred and 1126 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 5: fifty yards on sixty attempts. 1127 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: Is not against the blitz. I'd like to know what 1128 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: the averages are. 1129 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you it's not good for Mac Jones. 1130 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. I don't know what anybody else did. 1131 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 2: But you need to another. 1132 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 5: No one has been blitzed as much as he has. Okay, 1133 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 5: but right, because he said that, no one got blitzed 1134 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 5: more Cat Jones. 1135 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so he got blitzed sixty five times. The next 1136 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: guy might have been sixty four like, i'd like to know. 1137 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: You can look it up, Fred, if you want to know. 1138 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 2: I don't care spouting all this stuff up with them. 1139 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm not scouting anything. 1140 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 5: All I said was I didn't think Houston blitzed a lot. 1141 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 5: And then the guy wrote in to say they only 1142 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 5: blitzed by that one thing. 1143 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: But we're talking about overall. 1144 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 3: Forget your hang up, not mine. 1145 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 4: He's not a hang up. 1146 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: I just want to I don't know. I just want 1147 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: to know. 1148 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: Then look it up. I don't care. 1149 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: That's what I pay you for. 1150 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 3: I don't have a subscription to PFF. 1151 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's another great moment from. 1152 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 2: All right back here in Patriots filtered past five hundred, 1153 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 2: I'd be good if I turned my mic on eight five. 1154 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 2: Five past five hundred is the ating of hotline Brain. 1155 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: You can burn that one at Patriots dot com. No, 1156 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 2: keep it for the archives. That made me laugh about 1157 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 2: one of the archives. It's good. I like when when 1158 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: fans nitpick at us. And Scott is in Rask originally 1159 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 2: from Sharon. Now he's in New York City. He's been 1160 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 2: listening since eight never misses an episode, thank you, although 1161 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 2: never live unless it's the draft. He says, I know, 1162 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: grammar and language come up sometimes, so I figured i'd 1163 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 2: highlight a few oddities and errors that you still make. 1164 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: The word picture is pronounced not picture. There's a C 1165 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 2: and a T in there. This was one of the 1166 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 2: first errors I ever noticed, way back in PFW one 1167 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: filtered and it's still happening. Maybe it's an everything. 1168 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an accent. 1169 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 4: That's it. 1170 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 2: Okay, it's not an error. 1171 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 3: You want it to be pronounced. 1172 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 2: He hits all of us. Fred. The overuse of the 1173 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 2: word myself is almost always incorrect. When you open the show, 1174 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: you usually say it's Paul, it's Mike, it's Evan, and myself. 1175 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 2: That's incorrect. It's a common mistake, so I understand it. 1176 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 2: But the correct usage is me. You use myself only 1177 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 2: when you're the subject of the sentence, as in I 1178 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: could not dress myself. Okay, Mike, your grammar is mostly correct, 1179 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 2: but you still throw in filler words like that don't 1180 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: make sense. It's not as bad as it was, but 1181 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 2: there's one that sounds uh stands out. Everyone uses light 1182 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: kind of and you know, but your heavy reliance on 1183 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 2: the phrase a little bit. 1184 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 4: A little bit alright is just odd. 1185 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 2: One time when talking about your when talking about your 1186 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: time in LA, you said something like the stadium was 1187 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 2: a little bit in LA. It's like half of it 1188 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 2: was in l A. 1189 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. 1190 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,479 Speaker 2: That's And then Evan sir, and maybe because you're both 1191 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 2: are you from Sharon too? 1192 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 3: No, no, okay, please. 1193 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 2: Because you're from Sharon right, not originally, but I live there. 1194 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 3: We're actually good at sports. 1195 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 2: I have no complaints, he says. He says he has 1196 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: no Evan complaints. I was particularly impressed with your correct 1197 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 2: usage of the word lego instead of legos on Thursday, 1198 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 2: which is incorrect the plural. The word lego is, in 1199 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 2: fact lego. From where I stand, you're perfect. 1200 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 3: You must be a barrel. 1201 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 2: Aside from there, can we From. 1202 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 3: Where I stand? 1203 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 7: Your he had like a sign and everything your grammar. 1204 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: Aside from that ridiculous moon landing video tape. Come on, man, 1205 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. 1206 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 4: All right, we gotta get going. 1207 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 7: We gotta get Evan going on his uh the office, 1208 00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 7: Pam Beasley take because that's another strong off football No overrated? 1209 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 3: You say, I just I think she's a horrible person. 1210 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh like her character is yes? Bad? 1211 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes? Why well, first, of all. No, this is 1212 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 3: not we have stuff walked right into it. We just 1213 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 3: got off the field from a practice and we got 1214 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 3: him talking about the let's save this for like the 1215 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 3: middle of June, and we really have nothing to talk. 1216 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 2: Quick synopsis, just and and then well we'll get back 1217 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 2: to it some day. 1218 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 5: I just think that she's a bad person, but give 1219 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 5: me any but you're talking about the character. 1220 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, she's engaged to Roy and. 1221 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: She cheats on No, No, it's not just she she 1222 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 3: emotionally cheats on Roy emotionally and then physically cheats on 1223 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: Roy when she kisses Jim. 1224 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,959 Speaker 2: No. But wasn't Roy a real dick? 1225 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: No, he was just kind of an ice cream Yeah, 1226 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 3: like he was just he's just kind of there. 1227 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 7: Cam opened her mouth and let him know what once 1228 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 7: in a while would right from the bottom of a well, 1229 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 7: I'm just saying, if you have I don't even know 1230 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 7: who is. 1231 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 3: You clearly had an emotion. The guy that works down. 1232 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 7: Downstairs in the loading dock, he's like the blue you know, 1233 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 7: and he's kind of a dick. 1234 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: But they set it up so everybody that's watching says, 1235 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: you can do Oh yeah, that right. I mean they 1236 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: set it up that way. 1237 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 4: But still Royscott feelings. He's a person. It's like just 1238 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 4: because Jim is. 1239 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 3: Just like ditches for art school. Yeah, just just. 1240 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: Just trying to find herself sitting at this paper company forever. 1241 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,919 Speaker 7: How many people do you think go to art school 1242 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 7: in their thirties and then become a successful artist. I'm 1243 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 7: going to say that's a loone, Okay, but you're coming 1244 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 7: chasing her. 1245 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 2: She's chasing her dreams. 1246 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 3: Right, No, it just really stems. Look, there's the you 1247 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 3: google this, and there are Google lists of people telling 1248 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 3: you why Pam Beasley is the worst? Okay, lists all 1249 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 3: right about that. 1250 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 5: I don't know The Office enough to have an opinion, 1251 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 5: which really hurts me. 1252 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 2: You don't know. 1253 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 7: You could just go season one you'd probably get. 1254 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 5: No, I've watched The Office. I just don't watch it 1255 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 5: enough to know. Like I didn't even know who really was. 1256 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 5: I didn't know that Pam was Ino somebody else. 1257 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 3: Right, you wouldn't because she's into gym times a little cute. See, 1258 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 3: I do know. I do know the looks into it. 1259 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 7: We gotta start doing these looks to the cameras here, 1260 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 7: you know, like when you guys are like. 1261 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, do the gym. 1262 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 7: Look when you guys are going at it. 1263 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 3: Was in Hollywood. 1264 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's that's why I look just a little bit. 1265 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 3: Just likes to break the That's. 1266 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,879 Speaker 2: Why in the new studio we're gonna have three cameras. 1267 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 2: We'll be able to do those cutaways. 1268 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 5: Oh right, yeah, all right, that's supposed speaking. 1269 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 2: Listen. 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The official 1279 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 2: furniture store of the New England Patriots. Eight five five 1280 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 2: past five hundred is the ACE Ticket Hotline. Let's get 1281 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 2: to the phones. Christian is in Virginia. What's up, Christian? Christian? 1282 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 2: I hear something in the background. What's he doing? Christian? 1283 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 2: Going on? Oh? 1284 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 4: There he is? 1285 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 2: What's going on? What happened there? 1286 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 11: Oh? 1287 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 10: I just was walking out of my car and my 1288 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 10: bluetooth reconnected after I locked it. 1289 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 2: Ah, gotcha, it's the house to the car walk with 1290 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 2: the bluetooth. Got it? Got it? 1291 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 5: Am FM, old poison needle, photograph trick. 1292 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 2: Oh the volume? All right? Go ahead, Christian? What's up? 1293 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 5: So? 1294 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 10: I got a few things. 1295 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: One. 1296 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 10: I feel like there's a million dudes named Christian that 1297 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 10: listens to this podcast. 1298 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is more than there should be. 1299 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 4: One t I a M Yeah, and one in LA two. 1300 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 10: I feel like I don't know if you guys have 1301 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 10: any interaction with Snapchat, but for all the listeners who 1302 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 10: follow the NFL on Snapchat, every single one of the 1303 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 10: NFL's posts has music, and it is the worst music 1304 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 10: you can ever hear. It's genuinely horrible. 1305 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: Probably a licensing thing, yeah, that. 1306 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 10: Would be my guest. But it's like it's it's a 1307 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,720 Speaker 10: few beats away from a part down effect. 1308 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 2: One of these days again, on an off season, I'll 1309 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: go on my music rant and how the music industry 1310 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 2: is leaving money on the table. But anyway back to you, Christian. 1311 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 10: My final thing being in Virginia, you know, there's not 1312 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 10: a lot of past games nearby, but I'm going to 1313 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 10: the preseason game with the Commanders, and I was wondering 1314 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 10: if you guys had any guests on who I'm going 1315 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 10: to be seeing. I feel like it's still going to 1316 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 10: be a fun game, regardless if I'm seeing starters, you know, 1317 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 10: with Joe Milton and I don't know, I feel like 1318 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 10: there are a lot of guys. I'm a Patriots fan, 1319 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 10: and you know I'm here to support the team no 1320 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 10: matter who I'm seeing. 1321 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 2: Leave with that and all right, thanks Christians. Good question. 1322 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a still a dress rehearsal game 1323 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 3: from what we've seen a lot of in the past 1324 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 3: because they have that big gap between the third preseason 1325 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 3: game and the first regular season games is almost two 1326 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 3: weeks in between, so I still think you'll see some 1327 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 3: of the regular starters. 1328 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 4: Okay, get to practice. 1329 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 2: So here's the question. By that time, do you think 1330 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 2: the Patriots will have made up their mind who's going 1331 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 2: to be your Week one starter? Yes? Oh yeah, If 1332 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 2: that's the case, and it's Drake May. Will he play 1333 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 2: in that game Week three preseason? 1334 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 4: Think about it that way. 1335 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 3: I guess it depends on how much he played in 1336 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 3: the first two games. Yeah, I still think you'll play 1337 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 3: a little bit. 1338 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 4: I would think so. 1339 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 7: I mean, if if he really is the starter, I 1340 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 7: think at that point you've got to get it. Do 1341 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 7: you think there's a chance that yeah, I don't. 1342 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 5: Well, what's the question that Drake Maker start Week one? Yes, 1343 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 5: barring an injury. 1344 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 2: I think there's a chance. Yes, I do. 1345 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 3: I think that's already been decided. 1346 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 4: I'm with Paul and that. 1347 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 7: I mean, I would think more I could still see 1348 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 7: Drake May playing, but Jacoby's the starter. 1349 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 4: But I mean that would kind of go. 1350 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 5: Against and you could see Drake May in that third 1351 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 5: preseason game. 1352 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd have to go back and look, you. 1353 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 5: Know, for some of the particulars. But I know, I 1354 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 5: think I do think that that Evan's kind of right. 1355 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 5: I think that you see some guys playing that third game, 1356 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 5: you know, and I think it makes sense to play 1357 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 5: Drake May in all three games, to be honest, that 1358 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 5: was kind of my problem with the first couple of practices. 1359 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 2: No, I think there's a chance he starts Week one. 1360 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 5: I think there's always I hope you're right. I just 1361 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 5: don't think, barring an injury, I don't think there was 1362 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 5: a chance. 1363 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 7: What was last year like with Tennessee, Do you guys 1364 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 7: remember what because it was. 1365 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 4: A weird situation. 1366 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 3: Is that the last one? Yeah? 1367 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1368 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 7: Because yeah, because Bolden got hurt in Green Bay, canceled 1369 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 7: the joints and then they went out. 1370 00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, they went down there. 1371 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 2: It's a weird preseason last Yeah. 1372 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,280 Speaker 7: That's that's why I hesitate to really try to judge 1373 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 7: too much off of that, because it seems like. 1374 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 5: I don't know how much the starters have played in it, 1375 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 5: because since they went to three, this is gonna be 1376 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 5: what the fourth year, twenty one, twenty two, twenty. This 1377 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 5: is the fourth year, right, because with twenty one they 1378 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 5: went ten. 1379 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 4: And seven twenty. This is the third year I think 1380 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 4: is twenty one. 1381 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 5: I think twenty one was the year that Mac Jones 1382 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 5: was a rookie, playoffs ten and seven three three ye. 1383 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 3: So that was the first year. 1384 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 5: So this is the fourth time that you'll have a 1385 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 5: third just third and final preseason game. 1386 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 4: I don't know it's. 1387 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 7: Gonna be down to too soon, Yeah, I have them please, Yeah, 1388 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 7: but but camp starts in mid May. 1389 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think camp started. I think camp might be over. 1390 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: Kendall's in North Carolina. I hate Kendall was going on 1391 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: Guys Listening doing a great job, thank you, thank you. 1392 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, this question was but Evan, I got two of 1393 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 10: them real quick. 1394 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: When is the start of OTA? 1395 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 10: I think I've seen two different dates from two different 1396 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 10: pages on Twitter. 1397 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: You mean training camp, mini camp Monday Monday, Monday twelve 1398 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 2: and just okay, go ahead. 1399 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 10: And my other question is is it a guarantee that 1400 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 10: kJ want to make the team and what have y'all 1401 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 10: so far? 1402 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 3: I think it's a not a guarantee. I wouldn't put 1403 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 3: him in the lock category just yet, but I think 1404 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 3: there's a pretty good chance. And I thought today was 1405 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 3: one of his better practices that we've seen, you know, 1406 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 3: uh more red zones. That's more about space and play 1407 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 3: strength and hands that kind of thing, and not necessarily 1408 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 3: about you know, can you get open between the twenties? 1409 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 4: First day I really clocked him. I mean, the other 1410 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 4: day has kind of been. 1411 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 5: And it was active today. The other day I didn't 1412 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 5: see much, but I think he's pretty close. 1413 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 4: To the locker. 1414 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit of jaheen Bill not to shift, 1415 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 7: but I saw him pop at. 1416 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 10: Know what the injury is? 1417 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 7: No, no, no, I mean he's around, so it's probably 1418 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 7: nothing crazy, but just seems like maybe, you know, I mean, 1419 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 7: I don't want to speculate, but it's a kind of 1420 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 7: thing off tissue. 1421 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a little bit of a. 1422 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 7: Hamstring tweak, and he can't go through practice, so he 1423 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 7: just goes down to the lower fields, does some training, 1424 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 7: some stretching, and you know, comes back and watches. But 1425 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 7: you know, look, I'm not gonna lie like I know 1426 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 7: it's OTAs and these aren't you know, these hugely defining 1427 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 7: practices of the year. But anytime a rookie does not 1428 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 7: get on the field, it is significant, and especially at that. 1429 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 2: Position, well at least when Bill is here. You know, 1430 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: when you lose time in the off season, it builds 1431 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 2: up and it affects you. 1432 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 5: And he used to have a formula, you know, for 1433 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 5: every day. It's like missing two days. Then you know, 1434 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 5: it doesn't take long that you're you're a week or 1435 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 5: so behind, right. 1436 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 4: Is he going to be ready for mini camp next week? 1437 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 5: I mean yeah, and the whole thing, I just want 1438 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,439 Speaker 5: to temper because I think we we have this every year. 1439 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 5: Mini Camp is ot AS. It's the same. The only 1440 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 5: difference between Mini Camp and OTAs is it's mandatory to 1441 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 5: be there. Players will get fined if they don't show up. 1442 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 5: But it's going to be the same format of practice, shorts, 1443 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 5: T shirts. 1444 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 2: I'm glad Kendall brought up mini camp because on Monday 1445 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 2: we'll be live for practice with the show. So we 1446 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 2: don't know exactly when practice will be on Monday, but 1447 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 2: whatever that time window is, we will be live with 1448 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 2: this show on Monday. 1449 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, so mid to late morning probably probably. 1450 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably the well we'll get it out. 1451 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 3: There, so it'll be Monday. 1452 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 5: It's it's ten eleven twelve, right Monday, Tuesday Wednesday, Mini Camp. 1453 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 7: Yep, yeah, I mean And in that regard though, just 1454 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 7: along what Paul's lines is, I mean, I think it's 1455 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 7: it's worth considering, you know, they do. I saw the 1456 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 7: reported cap space for whatever that counts for. But you know, 1457 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 7: Davon Gacha hasn't been around. We know, Matthew Judon last 1458 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 7: year was you know speculation. Quiet Holdout eventually got a bump, 1459 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 7: but pulled money from previous year. You know, I throw 1460 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 7: Gabril Peppers as a guy entering Ramandre Stevenson. You know 1461 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 7: a few handful of guys that if they were to 1462 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 7: look internally maybe because I think sometimes around this time 1463 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 7: of year when they break, they kind of say, hey, 1464 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 7: let's let's get Steve. 1465 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 3: I would keep an eye on. Yeah, last year of 1466 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 3: his deal. 1467 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 5: They probably wanting to avoid a Josh Jacobs kind of deal, 1468 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 5: you know, something like that. See if they can get 1469 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 5: him done, you know, a year ahead of time. 1470 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 7: So you buy coming off an injury, you buy. 1471 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 5: A year coming off an injury. Maybe you can get 1472 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 5: him for less. My guess is Stevenson's not looking for less. 1473 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 5: But no, that's that's a target I would think would 1474 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 5: make makes some sense if the Patriots were. 1475 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 4: Looking, Yeah, it's got to want more money too. 1476 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's that's one where it almost 1477 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 7: seems like that that's got to happen. 1478 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 5: They really only have one traditional running back, yep in Stevenson, 1479 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 5: you know, like Kevin Harris is kind of like the 1480 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 5: second guy, and then Gibson's a different style back. He's 1481 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 5: more of a pass catcher. Jamichael Hasty today got like 1482 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 5: a million passes. Out of the backfield. But I don't 1483 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 5: think he's a traditional so Stevenson's got a little leverage 1484 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 5: if that, in fact is something that Patriots want to do. 1485 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 2: Uh, Chris and Bristol GB writes, you think that's great Britain? 1486 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 5: My guess Bristol, Yeah, okay, right, yeah, all. 1487 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 7: Right, because all of our counties, nobody could come up 1488 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 7: with new ones. 1489 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 4: They're just call it new or the same thing. 1490 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 5: We're just going to call it the same thing that 1491 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 5: they do over there over there. 1492 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: The Paul and Mike video did that they did with 1493 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 2: McDaniels was excellent, well done. I grew up watching Tom, 1494 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 2: so it was always a little difficult to appreciate his 1495 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 2: greatness and see it in context. Videos like this in 1496 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 2: our recent QB play have really helped with that. I 1497 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 2: guess I have a collection of questions and requests in 1498 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 2: case it's a slow news day. What percentage of players 1499 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 2: would you guess take peds? Has there ever been a 1500 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 2: good expose a on this? 1501 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 3: I am not answering. 1502 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 2: Yes, probably more than you think. Yeah, what kind of 1503 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 2: education do college football players get? I guess they can 1504 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 2: get as good in education as college offers, But what's 1505 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 2: the minimum level, because. 1506 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 3: There's some interesting questions. 1507 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 5: I think there's a there's probably more education than you 1508 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 5: think for a lot of these guys, and I thought 1509 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 5: it was really interesting. Today Joe Milton was asked, you know, 1510 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 5: he was talking about he grew up a Patriots fan 1511 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 5: and the reason he was a Patriots fan. He said 1512 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 5: because when he was growing up, he's abud eight years old, 1513 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 5: his mother's boyfriend at the time always had the Patriots on, 1514 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 5: so he was always watching him. And there was a 1515 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 5: follow up questions like, did that have anything to do 1516 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 5: with why you went to Michigan? You know, Tom Brady 1517 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 5: goes No, I went to Michigan for the education. Yeah, 1518 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 5: So I don't think that that makes him an outlier. Now, 1519 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 5: do I think every guy has his education first and foremost. 1520 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 8: No. 1521 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 5: I think there are five star recruits that probably know 1522 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 5: they're going to play in the NFL someday. But I 1523 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if there are more people that at 1524 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 5: least have an I toward their education than you think. 1525 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is three or four. 1526 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 5: I kind of like that the way he answered that question, 1527 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 5: But I don't know why. 1528 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 2: I was so taken by why has the running game died. 1529 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 4: It's not sexy. That is a very fantasy. 1530 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 3: Foo, what do you mean if I died? 1531 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's the I mean, running backs used 1532 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 2: to go high in the draft. They don't anymore. 1533 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 3: Well, they still do if there's a running back worthy 1534 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 3: of but the result is. 1535 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 4: Like short shelf life, you know. 1536 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 7: The there's not a lot of separation between a lot 1537 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 7: of these guys. Like Evan said, there's a few that 1538 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 7: are special, but otherwise you can kind of find a guy. 1539 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's so, I guess it's not as much the 1540 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 2: running game died, but the passing game. 1541 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 5: It's a very layered question, and I don't have you know, 1542 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 5: I don't pretend to know that the exact reason, but 1543 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 5: I would say that with the sort of advancements in 1544 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 5: the passing game which have led to more points and 1545 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 5: sort of video game offenses. Now, last year was not 1546 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 5: a great example of that, but bear with me, I 1547 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 5: mean offenses up over the last twenty years. I think 1548 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 5: we can say safely, you need to score to keep up, 1549 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 5: and if you're going to run the ball, you're not 1550 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 5: going to score to keep up. 1551 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you pass the score, you run to keep the 1552 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 2: score down, right, Yeah, nowadays. 1553 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with passing it's just simple math. It's 1554 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 3: kind of like the three pointer in basketball is think 1555 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 3: about this the other day, where like, even if you're 1556 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 3: a bad passing team, you're averaging six and a half 1557 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 3: seven yards per past attempt, whereas a run you're averaging 1558 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 3: three and a half to four. You're really good, you're 1559 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 3: averaging five, four or five yds. Right, What the math 1560 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 3: is going to tell you that the pass is more 1561 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 3: efficient than running the football? 1562 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, And couldn't you just say, like, you know, you 1563 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 5: know what happened to low post play in basketball. Yeah, 1564 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 5: it's the same thing. It's the same kind of thing. 1565 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 5: I know you you don't but but and the whole 1566 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 5: thing with running backs too, is like true Kevin said, 1567 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 5: if you if you have a guy like Bjon Robinson, 1568 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 5: obviously Gibbs, Jamior Gibbs, Right, they're going to be separators 1569 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 5: and they're still gonna they're gonna go high. But there's 1570 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 5: so much fewer of those because of this, Like for 1571 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 5: the last twenty years, it's been sort of a slant 1572 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 5: towards the passing game and there and those guys are 1573 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 5: playing receiver. 1574 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I think that's the biggest thing too, is 1575 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 3: to douce his point about shelf life and just contract. 1576 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 3: If you're a stud athlete and your five star recruit 1577 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 3: coming out of school and you have this NFL future 1578 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 3: that Paul was talking about, whole education thing, why would 1579 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 3: you sign up to be a running back? That's probably 1580 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 3: on the list of positions nowadays, that's towards the bottom 1581 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 3: of the list, right, you know, if you could be 1582 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 3: a receiver, if you could be a corner, even like 1583 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a longer career, you're gonna make more money, 1584 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 3: Like all those things are gonna line up for you. 1585 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 1586 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 5: That's why I said it was a layered question because 1587 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 5: a lot I think there are a lot of factors 1588 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 5: that have sort of final question. 1589 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 2: I watched a video about Dak Prescott's Cadence the other day. 1590 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 2: Can you play Mike's song please? You got that queue up, 1591 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 2: Matt oh Man? 1592 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 3: That Cadence is a here we go, This. 1593 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 4: One's for Mike two. 1594 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 2: So and yeah, there we go. 1595 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 3: This one's for Mike two. 1596 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 2: So he made his name and plugging and he's a youth. 1597 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 3: Hockey for me, don't you again? 1598 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: Those twenty eight to three t he's less in the 1599 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: picks an he's sneaky negative, but he knows his hood 1600 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: and he knows them good. 1601 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 3: Did you know that he used to live in Okay? 1602 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 6: This one, this one's from Mike So. 1603 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. 1604 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 4: This one's from. 1605 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Mike So and is brilliant. 1606 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 7: It's going to bring it down at my funeral, Like 1607 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 7: it is so good. 1608 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 2: She's got to come up in the new one. 1609 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 3: But it is really objectively excellent. It's really just. 1610 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta be better in Picks this year. 1611 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 7: So that way she's forced to change the song, like 1612 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 7: you get rid of that last in the pix line 1613 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 7: this year. 1614 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 5: Good stuff and he knows him good. 1615 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 3: A lot of talk about Cadence though on a serious note, Yeah, 1616 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 3: important in this offense, and Dak Prescott to Mike McCarthy, 1617 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 3: offense is from this this tree, from this family, and Cadence. 1618 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 3: It is important in this offense. And lining up Cadence 1619 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 3: between the quarterbacks and making sure everybody is kind of 1620 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 3: doing it the same way is something that they've been 1621 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 3: talking about. 1622 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for bringing us down, Bell and Vista. 1623 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 7: I'm only kidding, just kidding, Jesus, that was a little harsh. 1624 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm just making a joke, geez, just a fun fact. 1625 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 4: He's got a family. 1626 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 3: I'm okay, sorry. 1627 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 2: If you continues to hold out, is he holding out? 1628 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 2: How can you hold out. 1629 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 3: And hold out? 1630 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 2: Well? 1631 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 3: They have mini camp this week. 1632 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 2: Okay. If he continues to hold out, are the chances 1633 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 2: better that he gets traded or do you guys think 1634 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 2: he'll stay with the forty nine ers. Also, would you 1635 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 2: guys rather trade for a vet Stud wide receiver and 1636 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 2: develop young O line guys, or trade for a vet 1637 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 2: Oline Stud and develop your wide receivers. 1638 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 3: It's definitely easier to get your hands on the receiver. Yeah, 1639 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 3: I would rather go Now, if you have a stud 1640 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 3: left tackle, I think the last one is probably Trent Williams. 1641 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 3: That truly moved and that that was years ago is now, 1642 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 3: it's four or five years ago. It doesn't happen very often, 1643 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 3: that like a true franchise tackle. 1644 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 5: If you guys had your choice, and let's just say 1645 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 5: that you know that stud left tackle was available, and 1646 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 5: the stud receiver is available, what would you rather trade 1647 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:10,799 Speaker 5: for the receiver? 1648 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 3: I would rather have the receiver. 1649 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 5: But I'm sure a lot of people would make the 1650 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 5: argument I'd rather have Trent Williams. 1651 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 7: Now, I still I still like hold out hope that 1652 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 7: they can just develop an offensive line. That's okay, Like 1653 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 7: that's fine, you know, like just that they don't have 1654 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 7: to like over extend that they're just like they're gonna 1655 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 7: be able to figure it out. I don't know, maybe 1656 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 7: that's foolish and we're gonna be talking about, you know, 1657 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 7: the tackles next year at the top of the draft. 1658 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 2: But okay, so let me ask you. 1659 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 3: Probably will be but that's I think that's regardless. But yeah, 1660 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 3: but that's okay. 1661 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like if Kayden Wallace is a good right tackle 1662 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 5: and you're in the left tackle market again next year, 1663 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 5: that's not the end of the world. 1664 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So let me ask you a question about acquiring 1665 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 2: a stud wide receiver, you know, a veteran stud wide receiver, 1666 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 2: because I think about football too sometimes, have it? 1667 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 11: You know a lot of shots to you today because 1668 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,760 Speaker 11: that email doesn't So let's just say you're you're in 1669 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 11: the situation the Patriots are now, you're starting from the 1670 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 11: ground floor with your offense basically with a rookie quarterback. 1671 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,760 Speaker 2: And a guy like t Higgins. You know you can 1672 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 2: get him, but you're probably gonna sign him for like 1673 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 2: a two year deal. Is that too soon because by 1674 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 2: the time the offense is starting to get good, you know, 1675 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 2: now you have to decide whether or not to re 1676 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 2: up t Higgins or you know, you know what I'm saying, Like. 1677 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 3: I feel like we Yeah, I totally know what you're saying. 1678 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 3: And I've brought this up before. I feel like you're 1679 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 3: a year or too early for the wide receiver trade. Yeah, 1680 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 3: And I know nobody wants to hear that because everybody 1681 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,600 Speaker 3: wants to shine in the toy and we all do. 1682 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 3: But really, Josh Allen got Stefon Diggs between years two 1683 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 3: and three, right, Jalen Hurts got aj Brown around the 1684 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 3: same time of his career direct because you have to 1685 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 3: see you have to build some of the other pieces up, 1686 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 3: and you also have to see the quarterback and play. 1687 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 2: And it's a money issue, isn't it. 1688 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a money issue. I just 1689 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 3: think it's more of like a like he's supposed to 1690 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 3: the receiver is supposed to be the cherry on top. 1691 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 2: No, but I know, but if I have the receiver, 1692 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 2: if I know I have the receiver for six years, 1693 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,799 Speaker 2: let's say which is kind of crazy in the NFL. 1694 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 2: Then I'm okay with that because when my quarterback gets rolling, 1695 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 2: I know the receiver is still going to be here. 1696 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 2: But I don't want to have to pay huge amount 1697 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 2: of money up front and then he has to wait 1698 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 2: for the quarterback. I'd rather have the quarterback wait for 1699 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 2: the wide receiver. 1700 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 7: I think you're getting into the new territory fray, which is, 1701 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 7: are we ever going to get to a point where 1702 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 7: the wide receivers are just overvalued? 1703 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 4: And where it's going to start? You know, to go 1704 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 4: the other way? Is there? 1705 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 7: You know a certain point where you say, every year 1706 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 7: there's multiple these guys coming out, we're gonna be ready 1707 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 7: better off taking two day two receivers every year rather 1708 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 7: than over extendis but special player. 1709 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 2: Once we say Mac Jones, I'm not Max, right, Drake 1710 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 2: May's got it, then okay, let's bring in that receiver. 1711 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:48,600 Speaker 3: Well it's like c J. 1712 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 7: Stroud this year, right, Like that's they they went out 1713 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 7: and they got digs again. 1714 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 4: But he's not. 1715 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 7: They didn't re up him to a big deal, right, 1716 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 7: Like he's only he's out after a year or two. 1717 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 4: I think they. 1718 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 5: Gave him some money, but I don't. 1719 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's like a perfect case where you know, 1720 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 7: if Drake may were, let's say to play this year, 1721 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 7: and not only does he play, but we really see 1722 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,760 Speaker 7: a spark out of Jalen Polk and then they go 1723 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 7: out and they add a second piece with Polk next year, 1724 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 7: you know, and maybe it isn't the long term deal, 1725 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 7: but that's all right. You know, we'll continue to draft 1726 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 7: these guys and maybe we make another move down the road, 1727 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 7: but we know we got I'm talking about acquiring a 1728 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 7: stud vet right, just insurance. 1729 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 5: And I know your point about the quarterback, and that's 1730 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 5: ultimately the biggest thing is you know, does like in 1731 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,759 Speaker 5: other words, if C. J. Stroud was sort of middling 1732 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,799 Speaker 5: last year, do they make that Stefan Diggs trade? 1733 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 3: Maybe, but maybe. 1734 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 5: Maybe because he was so good, they were like, we 1735 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 5: need to get a study for him. So Fred's theory 1736 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 5: is good. I just wish we could get and I 1737 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 5: know that I'm a broken record about this. I just 1738 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 5: wish we could get away from I'm gonna get in 1739 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 5: every position every time someone signs a big contract. I'm 1740 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 5: so tired it's always the same guys on Twitter that 1741 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 5: and then I you know, and I think it was 1742 01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 5: like the guy from over the Cap, Jason, and I 1743 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 5: think he's the one who had the comparison to a 1744 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 5: Calvin Johnson contract comparatively to what the one that Justin 1745 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 5: Jefferson just signed. And it's basically identical percentage wise to 1746 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 5: the cap at the time relative. This is not like 1747 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 5: I know, the numbers are mind boggling when you look 1748 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,560 Speaker 5: at thirty five million, you know, aav that seems ridiculous. 1749 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 5: It's not based on what the cap is now. And 1750 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,759 Speaker 5: the cap is going to continue to rise. There's nine 1751 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 5: different ways that you have to have to watch NFL games, 1752 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 5: Thank you. So the number, the number is going up, 1753 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 5: like you're not ever really gonna have to worry about 1754 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,800 Speaker 5: Oh my god, can I have twenty percent of my 1755 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 5: cap tied up or thirty five percent tied up with 1756 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 5: my quarterback and my number one receiver? Yes, the answer 1757 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 5: is yes. If those guys are really good, you will 1758 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 5: be really good. If they stink, you're in trouble. But 1759 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 5: because they can't play, not because. 1760 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 3: Of the cap. 1761 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim writes in James, Really, I too enjoyed the 1762 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 2: Tom Brady film with Josh McDaniels breaking down the places. 1763 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 2: It seems like Mike and Paul were really having fun 1764 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 2: as well. I wondered if you guys felt you learned 1765 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 2: anything about Josh in his mind that you didn't know before. 1766 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I mean that's it's it was just. 1767 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 7: I mean I think I've seen a couple of comments 1768 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 7: from people have just not like how I felt was 1769 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 7: that it's easy to like, look, wow, that was an 1770 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 7: amazing throw by Tom Brady, but all the nuance that 1771 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 7: Josh breaks down when he shows you, you know, just 1772 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 7: specifically what made him great, what was going through his 1773 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 7: mind before the snap? I mean, it's just and I think, 1774 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 7: you know, I summed it up at the end of 1775 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 7: the video where it just felt like he was always 1776 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 7: so far ahead mentally and he could make decisions correct 1777 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,640 Speaker 7: decisions so quickly that you know, it's just to me, 1778 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 7: I one hundred percent learned what made this guy special 1779 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 7: in the eyes of people who truly truly coach this 1780 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,839 Speaker 7: stuff and know it and can break down every last detail. 1781 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 4: So it was it was awesome. I mean it was 1782 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,760 Speaker 4: the whole time. I'm just sitting there with a dumb smile. 1783 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 5: My face, like this is so cool, and I don't 1784 01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 5: know if like learn something is the right way, because 1785 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 5: I think we all saw it and sort of knew 1786 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 5: we were experiencing it. Maybe came to a pre heated 1787 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 5: more as the years went on, for sure, But one 1788 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,640 Speaker 5: of the things that really stood out to me was 1789 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 5: the first Super Bowl, the thirty six, the one against 1790 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 5: the Rams, and Josh talked about the blitz that he 1791 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 5: saw and you know, it was kind of a specific 1792 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,599 Speaker 5: overload blitz, and then you know, three or four plays 1793 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 5: later they tried the same thing and he showed how 1794 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 5: much more prepared they were for it the second time, 1795 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 5: and he gave all the credit for that to Tom 1796 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,599 Speaker 5: and he said to Mike and I just he had 1797 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 5: as long as he saw it once. All he needed 1798 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 5: was to see at once, and then he had it. 1799 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 5: And those are cliches that we've always heard, but it 1800 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 5: was really illustrated in those two plays, and it was 1801 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 5: he ended up having to throw the ball away early 1802 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 5: in that you know, that hurry up drive at the end, 1803 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 5: and then the second time he was able to identify 1804 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 5: the protections properly, they blocked it up and he made 1805 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,559 Speaker 5: a short completion a wigi. That was the final play 1806 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 5: before they kicked the field, and I just think it 1807 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 5: really illustrated how just smart Tom was and how quickly 1808 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 5: he processed everything. 1809 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know he's watching it, but it reminds 1810 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,639 Speaker 2: me of those golfers that know every shot that they've had. 1811 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 5: That's amazing when they do that. Yeah, I was like thirteen, 1812 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 5: you know, how do you remember every detail of every 1813 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 5: shot like that? 1814 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:25,719 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Claire Wright's in Hello everyone, Hello Marine. Gotta 1815 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 2: say I love this all this off season this and 1816 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 2: I adore that breaking the fourth wall thing. I must 1817 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 2: tune into the YouTube show more than just audio. So 1818 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,080 Speaker 2: my question, with it being so early, it's difficult to 1819 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 2: take much away, but what one positive thing do you 1820 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 2: feel you can take away from what has been seen 1821 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 2: of the team so far on or off the field. 1822 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 7: On the field, Drake may looks like a third overall pick, 1823 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,599 Speaker 7: and that's all. 1824 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,960 Speaker 4: I really need to be excited about this team right now. 1825 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,559 Speaker 7: And it might be a long road, but I feel 1826 01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 7: fully on board with him and where he's headed and 1827 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 7: the kind of kid that he seems to be that 1828 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 7: got you know, not just him, They've got some young 1829 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 7: talent around him, and hopefully if these guys develop them, 1830 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,720 Speaker 7: we're you know, we're seeing the early stages of the 1831 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 7: next really good Patriots teams. I don't know if it's 1832 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 7: going to be the twenty twenty four Patriots, but you know, 1833 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 7: you can see there's some bones there to build around 1834 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,479 Speaker 7: if these kids can play, and so far it looks 1835 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 7: like they can. 1836 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 3: That one. Yeah, I would agree with just the Drake 1837 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 3: May part of it. I'm not sure if I'm necessarily 1838 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 3: as excited about the other pieces, but I think that 1839 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 3: you just see these these flashes from Drake May on 1840 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 3: individual throws, like if you if you put up the 1841 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 3: whole body of work, it's it can be clunky sometimes 1842 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 3: like today, but these individual moments where you're like, oh wow, 1843 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,680 Speaker 3: like that was that was a pretty thrower. You know, 1844 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 3: he drops his arm angled down a little bit and 1845 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,640 Speaker 3: throws it through a needle to pop Douglas today in 1846 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 3: the red zone, and you're like that those types of plays, 1847 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 3: I don't know if we have seen the quarterbacks make 1848 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 3: here over the last couple of years and that, and 1849 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 3: he's making them already in this early stage of things. 1850 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 3: Like I think that's the most encouraging thing to me, 1851 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 3: is that we're so early in his career really like 1852 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,559 Speaker 3: a month in to him being a Patriot and he's 1853 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 3: already doing these types of things. 1854 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 2: Now. 1855 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 5: There's no doubt he has more skill than the guy 1856 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 5: he's replacing. We've seen that already. I would say it's hard, 1857 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,639 Speaker 5: you know, for me, I try not to really look 1858 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 5: at it that way, but just there's an overall I 1859 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 5: would say, enthusiasm around the team, you know, among the players, 1860 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 5: among the coaches, because there's so much newness and I 1861 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,760 Speaker 5: don't think they know any other way. Yeah, I think 1862 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 5: there's just sort of an unbridled enthusiasm and I think 1863 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 5: that's kind of been infectious though, you know, a couple 1864 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 5: of times we've been out there. But yeah, I mean, 1865 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 5: I think we can see that the skill set that 1866 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 5: Drake May has now whether or not he can put 1867 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 5: it together. 1868 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,599 Speaker 2: And I'll say, I know it's got nothing, very little 1869 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 2: to do with football, and it doesn't win you any games, 1870 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 2: but the cooperation we have with football now and like 1871 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 2: the communication flow, and you know, it helps you know, 1872 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 2: at least our department, you our job, you know, and 1873 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,719 Speaker 2: it's not we're not going to be giving away stage secrets, 1874 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 2: but but you know, it helps us just play. 1875 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 5: And I'll say it's nice to ask for something and 1876 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,640 Speaker 5: have them say no. Yeah, like in the past, you 1877 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 5: just tell her back, but tell us why no, but 1878 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 5: here's why. And Okay, I get that. 1879 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 2: But just the cooperation so far and like I said, 1880 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 2: doesn't win you any games in September. I get it. 1881 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 2: But you know, we all have to work together well. 1882 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,640 Speaker 7: But as fans of the team, I think you you 1883 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 7: should probably already see some of the results of you know, 1884 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 7: some of the miked up stuff that we did. I mean, yeah, 1885 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,679 Speaker 7: I don't know if that Josh thing would have happened, 1886 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 7: you know, in the old regime. But you know, I 1887 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 7: think it doesn't necessarily maybe add up and wins and losses. 1888 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 7: But if you're a fan of this team and you want, 1889 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,879 Speaker 7: like you know, for me, getting to see the quarterback 1890 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 7: miked up at practice, like you know, usually you'd have 1891 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 7: to wait four or five years and then they put 1892 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 7: like we had a Bill Wilchrick miked up. You know, 1893 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 7: you didn't get that stuff a lot. So I think 1894 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,719 Speaker 7: it's it's you know, it's good for the fair. 1895 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 2: I know I'll get back to X and the bill 1896 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 2: bots will be all over me. You know, how many 1897 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,679 Speaker 2: Super Bowls? Okay, all right, Yes, I know it doesn't 1898 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 2: add up to the straw man. 1899 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 5: You know, would you make fun of me for all 1900 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 5: the time? 1901 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 2: Christian in l a Christian. It seems that with the 1902 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 2: way the schedule is that we struggled to get past 1903 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 2: five or maybe six games, ESPN has as favorite to 1904 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:24,400 Speaker 2: win the top draft spot next year. If that's the case. Updated, 1905 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 2: If that's the case, do we go with a stud 1906 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 2: by receiver or a stud left tackle. That's what we 1907 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 2: were just talking about. Pass rush. 1908 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 3: We're actually number two on their projections Carolina. 1909 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, what was the one I never understood how 1910 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,599 Speaker 5: behind Carolina we're now protected? 1911 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 2: What was the one that said that Drake May is 1912 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,759 Speaker 2: going to be the worst starting quarterback in the NFL? 1913 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 5: That was like another one. I did not see this objections. Yeah, 1914 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 5: I'm angry. 1915 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 4: Who can possibly know that? 1916 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, but first of all, I think, okay, 1917 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 2: they think he's going to be the starting quarterback. 1918 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 3: Ye, I would say to be terrible, we should have 1919 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 3: to win extremely hard for Carson Beck, Shador Sanders. One 1920 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,960 Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks in college has to have one of 1921 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 3: the Jaden Daniels season so that there's actually a quarterback 1922 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 3: prize at the top of this draft, because if there 1923 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,719 Speaker 3: isn't and the Patriots are sitting there with the first 1924 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 3: overall pick and no trade, you. 1925 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:16,960 Speaker 5: Don't want Jake Long. 1926 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in trouble. Yeah, you're gonna take Calvin Banks 1927 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,240 Speaker 3: junior number one overall because you need a left tackle 1928 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,000 Speaker 3: and he's the you know that's the So if you're 1929 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,400 Speaker 3: a Patriots fan, I would be rooting for these quarterbacks 1930 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 3: in college to actually look good, not because the Patriots 1931 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,720 Speaker 3: are going to draft them, but because it creates a 1932 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:34,880 Speaker 3: trade market for the pick. 1933 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,719 Speaker 2: Andre New Jersey. I just want to say happy birthday 1934 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,799 Speaker 2: to Paul and New Jersey. 1935 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 3: Thank you. I got scolded for bringing it up. 1936 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 2: Please don't retire anytime soon. 1937 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 5: Well, that can't happen. 1938 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 2: I saw an email I can't find it now, but 1939 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 2: someone was asking when does the parking lots open for 1940 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 2: Brady Day on June twelfth, and will there be tail 1941 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 2: get here? Three o'clock three pm is when the lots 1942 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 2: open for Brady Day. And yes, you can tailgate your. 1943 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,719 Speaker 4: Heart away here early. 1944 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 5: Yep, Fred, out of curiosity, where will you be during 1945 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:20,760 Speaker 5: Brady Day? 1946 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 2: I'm going to be roving, roving, Yeah, man of the people. Yeah. 1947 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,679 Speaker 5: The three of us were talking as we were walking 1948 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 5: out to practice, like exactly what our plan of attack 1949 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 5: would be. 1950 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, where to go. He's got fans that he's got 1951 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 3: to see. 1952 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,640 Speaker 2: I just want to know. We have a lot going on. 1953 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 2: That's going to be a huge content day for us. Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, 1954 01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 2: And as you know, content is king, it is it is. 1955 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 4: We'll be live in the morning. 1956 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 7: I mean it's going to be we should do like 1957 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 7: a full twenty four hour live network right again, we do. 1958 01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 3: That again to an afternoon Starbucks. 1959 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,280 Speaker 4: I heard it was a lot of fun. 1960 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was quite an accomplishment. 1961 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,639 Speaker 7: Started at seven am and we go to seven pm, 1962 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 7: right to the start whole week. 1963 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:09,720 Speaker 2: Nathan in Monterey, Mexico. Uh, he says, okay, real football. 1964 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:14,519 Speaker 3: Talk, and I will take a step back. All of 1965 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 3: you can just. 1966 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 2: Uh and and he's saying that sarcastically. Not once you 1967 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 2: hear the question number one, what will be the first 1968 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 2: touchdown celebration dance that Drake May does? 1969 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 5: Does he have those things? 1970 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 9: No? 1971 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 3: Honestly, he's not a big touchdown celebration guy that like 1972 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 3: more of like that Brady like excitement, but not like 1973 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,599 Speaker 3: it's not like he has like he's not gonna gritty, 1974 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 3: like he's not gonna have like a signature. I don't think. 1975 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 2: Did you see the thing with Mac Jones. 1976 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 4: And I thought he looked a little portly. I'm not 1977 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:44,240 Speaker 4: gonna lie. 1978 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 5: My guess is Fred now agrees he's now wearing someone 1979 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,400 Speaker 5: else's fine. He was physically he was chubby. I mean, 1980 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 5: I shouldn't cast stones, I know, but he didn't. 1981 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 4: I'll put it this way. 1982 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 7: He didn't have the look of me of like, whoa 1983 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 7: Mac is in killer ship right now? And he's down 1984 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 7: there to compete for a job. It looks like he's 1985 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 7: settling into the veteran backup role. 1986 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,519 Speaker 2: Nice back home mom's cooking, right, that's probably it. The 1987 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,759 Speaker 2: ice cream number two over under for number of Patriots 1988 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 2: offensive linemen wearing Guardian caps in week one and a 1989 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 2: under under. 1990 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 5: I hope under, I don't think you're going to see. 1991 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh this is in the games. 1992 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, they have to wear them in practice, right right? 1993 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the games, I say, under, I don't think 1994 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,880 Speaker 2: they it's how you look, bad, bad, how it's how 1995 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:30,280 Speaker 2: you look. 1996 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,799 Speaker 3: It's so true. Anesthetic is terrible. 1997 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:33,680 Speaker 6: Uh. 1998 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 2: Jabrill Peppers leads locker room celebration chant yes or no. 1999 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,799 Speaker 2: That's a big question. Who's going to take over for Slater. 2000 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,719 Speaker 4: I think they're going to do away with the haw. 2001 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,200 Speaker 3: Me agree, I agree. I think they're going to do 2002 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,479 Speaker 3: something different myself agree. Yeah, you know what, you know what, 2003 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,680 Speaker 3: I was thinking. 2004 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 7: To myself a little bit, A little bit, uh, I 2005 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,680 Speaker 7: you know what. I don't get my my current my 2006 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,720 Speaker 7: son's current little league team, don't get how to like, 2007 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 7: all right, Mets on three and then everybody says one, 2008 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 7: two three Mets. I'm like, guys, like, where do we 2009 01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 7: lose this along the way? One person says one two three, 2010 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 7: and then we all say Mets together, but this has got. 2011 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 4: Where are we Everyone's like, okay, everyone goes one two 2012 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 4: three Mets. 2013 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,840 Speaker 5: Do you have a database that records what the Mets 2014 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 5: coach actually wears every game? 2015 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,120 Speaker 3: Do you guys play the trumpet? Maybe perhaps no Mets. 2016 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 7: No, we're not like the real Mets like that. We're 2017 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:31,759 Speaker 7: just the little league Mets that's kicking everybody. 2018 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:37,680 Speaker 2: Mets great, I used to that's one of them. I 2019 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,679 Speaker 2: think that's one of the best. 2020 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 3: That is a good Yeah, that is a good one. 2021 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:40,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2022 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,160 Speaker 3: One years on like the Orioles or something like that. 2023 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,800 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a Red Sox fan. You know, I 2024 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,639 Speaker 3: was like mad, You never do the local teams. 2025 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 7: You always have like like we're the NL West whatever 2026 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 7: it is, or an least with the Red Sox. Didn't 2027 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,439 Speaker 7: everybody get pissed we want to. 2028 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,280 Speaker 2: Be That's not father was in charge of the league. 2029 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, this is I'm talking about little 2030 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 5: league in peabd Bye. I actually was on the Red 2031 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 5: Sox when I was younger. I was on the Dodgers 2032 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 5: and the Miners and Red Sox and the Majors. 2033 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 2: Brady's feeling like big puppy. Oh, by the way, the 2034 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:13,640 Speaker 2: orioles to Brian Morey, uh, former w cast member who 2035 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 2: is now the head coach of the Sandwich High School 2036 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 2: baseball team. They won their first round in the playoffs 2037 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 2: ten nothing over to Conic. I didn't even know that 2038 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 2: was a team. 2039 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 3: Evidently it's not. 2040 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,599 Speaker 7: Drive last year, basically Albany, New York, all the way 2041 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:30,639 Speaker 7: to Cape Cod to play. 2042 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 5: It's so absurd, the new the New State tournament is 2043 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 5: so absurd. 2044 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but ten nothing so good start there. And the 2045 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,680 Speaker 2: final question, does Evan shed a tier when Drake May 2046 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:43,720 Speaker 2: wins his first game? 2047 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:44,280 Speaker 3: Yes, or no. 2048 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,280 Speaker 2: Shed a teer joy. 2049 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,400 Speaker 5: I think if if that was like in week one, 2050 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,640 Speaker 5: oh geez, I think we could see it. 2051 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, But if it's. 2052 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 5: If it's like the third winning the season and like 2053 01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,719 Speaker 5: week you know, eighteen, tears a little strong, tears are strong. 2054 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 3: But you know, I gotta tell you, I I'm just 2055 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 3: I'm not with Fred yet that there's like the doors 2056 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 3: it's cracked open for him to start a lot. I 2057 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:13,839 Speaker 3: just say sooner. 2058 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 5: There's nobody that's rooting for you two to be right 2059 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,680 Speaker 5: and me and Mike to be wrong more than I 2060 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 5: just it's cracked open. 2061 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,280 Speaker 3: I'm not ready to like annoying him yet. 2062 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 5: I would love it if he legitimately has a chance 2063 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 5: to start right away. Yeah, I would love that. I 2064 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 5: just don't think it's going to happen. 2065 01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 3: I think it's not going to happen because they have 2066 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,920 Speaker 3: a plan, right, That's that's my point. But could he 2067 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 3: bust that plan open? 2068 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 2: Right? That's what you're hoping your third overall pick does? 2069 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 3: I just well, I've also seen no evidence that that's 2070 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,599 Speaker 3: like coming either. But I think that there's a chance 2071 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 3: that they look at it and say, let's give it 2072 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,040 Speaker 3: a month just to see where all the other Ducks 2073 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,719 Speaker 3: are in a row offensive line, you know who emerges 2074 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,240 Speaker 3: that receiver, all this other stuff. But in our back pocket, 2075 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,360 Speaker 3: we kind of really know that Drake's going to start 2076 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 3: the majority of the games, but we're just not We 2077 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 3: want to see how it looks for the majority. You 2078 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 3: think I'll even take that. I'll even take that starting 2079 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 3: to lean towards majority. 2080 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Travis in Watertown, Connecticut. I took my son to 2081 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,240 Speaker 2: open training camp last summer. We had a blast. Do 2082 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,640 Speaker 2: you know if the new regime will be continuing that 2083 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,559 Speaker 2: experience for the Pats fawns, So, well, that's an NFL thing. 2084 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 2: There will be open training camp that you can go to, 2085 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,880 Speaker 2: and he says, assuming they will, what dates will be 2086 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 2: open to the public. We're hoping to make it up 2087 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 2: for some autographs. So I'm told that we'll be able 2088 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:39,639 Speaker 2: to get the whole training camp schedule out ahead of time. 2089 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 2: So in the past, you know, we dribble out one 2090 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 2: or two days and then four days, and but I'm 2091 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,600 Speaker 2: told that we're going to get the whole schedule of 2092 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,799 Speaker 2: when you can come, so you can make your plans 2093 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 2: ahead of time. That probably will come maybe right after 2094 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 2: Mini camp, they might come out with that. 2095 01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 7: So that guy that's going to the third preseason game too, 2096 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 7: I would say, try to get to practice. 2097 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's but he's in Washington. 2098 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 4: He's in Washington. 2099 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,440 Speaker 7: Oh sorry, yeah, I apologize, Yeah, I apologize. 2100 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,639 Speaker 5: That's the Rob Bradford ism. Yeah, I apologize. Let's see, 2101 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want you to get finger whacked. 2102 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,479 Speaker 2: Let's see. This is Max writing in greetings from Chili, 2103 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,920 Speaker 2: Santa Barbara. Chili beautiful as the June Gloom, great works 2104 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,960 Speaker 2: as the June Gloom lurks over the coastal region. I 2105 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 2: just wanted to say, excellent feature with Paul, Mike and 2106 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,880 Speaker 2: Josh breaking down Brady's top plays from Super Bowls. Well, 2107 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,360 Speaker 2: they weren't all from super Bowls, were they? 2108 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:36,960 Speaker 5: No? No. 2109 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,160 Speaker 2: Also, Evan seems ready for his close up with his 2110 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,599 Speaker 2: appearance in the schedule video. And finally, Fred that crack 2111 01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,439 Speaker 2: about Paul's blood being so carbonated that if he ate 2112 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,920 Speaker 2: a mentos he'd explode. That was probably somebody else I 2113 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 2: was going that was a listener. Was maybe the funniest 2114 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 2: thing ever said on this show. Excellent among a million 2115 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,960 Speaker 2: ball busting cracks I've heard since I've been listening since 2116 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 2: twenty three, two thousand and three. Also listener, congrats Fred 2117 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,639 Speaker 2: on hanging on to Paul's amiss, all the other free 2118 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,840 Speaker 2: agent departures through the years and always putting together a 2119 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 2: great team. Well, thank you, thank you. 2120 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,760 Speaker 5: I think there was a compliment in there, but kind 2121 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:19,439 Speaker 5: of a left handed one. Yeah, everybody else left the 2122 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:20,519 Speaker 5: one that was left behind? 2123 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Tyler, Tyler and Providence, this is the one 2124 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:26,040 Speaker 2: about left for success. 2125 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 3: Seriously, you need to get out of that. 2126 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:33,720 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it sounds like Kyrie Irving. Yes, it's the 2127 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 2: new board. Yeah, you don't have the any base in there. 2128 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 2: I think it's. 2129 01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:41,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you adjust a knob? 2130 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:42,759 Speaker 3: Damn Lapan? 2131 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler and Providence wants to know. I'm wondering if 2132 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 2: you guys could give some background details on my favorite 2133 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 2: sound drop from PFW past. It was good News out 2134 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 2: of Orlando, Florida. Dale Earnhardt died. That wasn't from this show. 2135 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 3: Was an e I drop that we stole. 2136 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was now Pete Shepherd Shepherd. 2137 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:08,000 Speaker 3: Good News. 2138 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,679 Speaker 2: Pet Shepherd did have a show on on the Patriots 2139 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 2: dot Com. He did, but he did not say it 2140 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,800 Speaker 2: during that show. He said it on his on the 2141 01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:24,439 Speaker 2: doing it wasn't it was. It was like like, you know, 2142 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 2: you're doing the news, so between segments and he's like, 2143 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 2: good news out at Daytona dale Ardheart died and it's like, 2144 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, immediately he knew what the hell, but it 2145 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:34,200 Speaker 2: was so sad news. 2146 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:34,720 Speaker 4: Sad news. 2147 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very Uh what's the. 2148 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,080 Speaker 5: Unfortunate? 2149 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:47,600 Speaker 2: Now, who's the guy that Farrell plays? Rond put it 2150 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:55,680 Speaker 2: Ron Burgundi is Dorian and Baltimore. This is about to 2151 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 2: kick off rule. How do you guys feel about teams 2152 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,439 Speaker 2: like the Chiefs potentially using players that aren't kickers for 2153 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 2: kickoffs to have a more sure tackler on the field. 2154 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,599 Speaker 2: The Chiefs are allowing their safety to kick for kickoffs 2155 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,080 Speaker 2: because he can indeed kick far. 2156 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pretty cool. 2157 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,960 Speaker 3: It's just different because Justin Reid actually can kick kick it. Yeah, 2158 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,639 Speaker 3: so like it would be it's like if Jabriel Pepper 2159 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,000 Speaker 3: has just started kicking the ball but he shanks every 2160 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,200 Speaker 3: single kick, then it's not the same thing. Justin Reid's 2161 01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,840 Speaker 3: actually kicked in games in games and has a decent leg. 2162 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,040 Speaker 3: So it's so they have a unique player. 2163 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,600 Speaker 5: I think if you have that opportunity if you have 2164 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,479 Speaker 5: that option that someone can kick well enough to get 2165 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,360 Speaker 5: it into where you want it to go. That makes 2166 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,479 Speaker 5: some sense to have eleven tacklers on the field. 2167 01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 4: That'd be fun, like a new position. 2168 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 7: Almost. 2169 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to do some Would you rathers oh, maybe, okay, 2170 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 2: a little off Jason preseason? Would you rather game one? 2171 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 2: Would you rather see Barmore have fifty one QB pressures 2172 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,000 Speaker 2: which averages out to three a game, or key on 2173 01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,880 Speaker 2: White have twenty five solo tackles for loss, which is 2174 01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,679 Speaker 2: one and a half for twenty five for los Okay, 2175 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 2: with that one, I wanted a Hay per game. 2176 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 3: That that would like lead the league if he had 2177 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,560 Speaker 3: twenty five, I do it. 2178 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,840 Speaker 5: Where does the fifty one pressures come? 2179 01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:14,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. Free per game? 2180 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,439 Speaker 5: That seems like a lot. Like that seems like you 2181 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,639 Speaker 5: put a lot of impact on the other team's passing game. 2182 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 5: It is a lot, and I would think that's more 2183 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,000 Speaker 5: important than just to tackle for loss. 2184 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait, lot. 2185 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, either way, you had a monster year for 2186 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:26,920 Speaker 5: either guy. 2187 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,680 Speaker 4: I'll take the new the new superstar. Can't wait? 2188 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So I think i'd rather have the 2189 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 2: bar Wark me too. 2190 01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,360 Speaker 3: But Deuce is really selling me on Crosby led the 2191 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,960 Speaker 3: league and tackles for loss with twenty three, So if 2192 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 3: Kean White had that many, he would lead the league 2193 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 3: in tactics for loss. So that's not happening. So Barn, 2194 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:45,320 Speaker 3: we're getting fifty one pressure? 2195 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,479 Speaker 2: What what you Which would you rather say? Not about? 2196 01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:49,599 Speaker 2: Which is more likely? 2197 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 5: What's more impowerful on earth? 2198 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,719 Speaker 7: Unless it comes to Pam Beasley's relationships and then I'm invested. 2199 01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,800 Speaker 5: It's amazing how he cannot deal with play the game. 2200 01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 3: If has that season, he's gonna be a first team Also, 2201 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:07,760 Speaker 3: you'd rather have that and you don't want it? 2202 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 2: There's your answer? 2203 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:09,640 Speaker 4: You unrealistic. 2204 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:11,280 Speaker 3: He's Aaron Donald. 2205 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:16,920 Speaker 2: Now would you rather have Remandre with fourteen hundred yards 2206 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:21,439 Speaker 2: rushing with rushing downs or Jalen Polk have nine hundred 2207 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,080 Speaker 2: yards receiving with eight touchdown? 2208 01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,879 Speaker 7: Pok Pok Pok pok polk A little bit more realistic. 2209 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 2: Okay, you are talking on the air, Matt. We can 2210 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:39,479 Speaker 2: hear everything you're saying. Three would you rather have Judan 2211 01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:43,160 Speaker 2: and Uch combined for twenty five sacks? Or Gonzo and 2212 01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,960 Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones combined for ten interceptions? 2213 01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,919 Speaker 3: How many sacks twenty five combined. 2214 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:50,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go interceptions. 2215 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go interceptions with eleven. 2216 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,599 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, how many? 2217 01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:59,160 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, twenty five many conversation that's what that's what 2218 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,240 Speaker 5: that's what's getting to. 2219 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh so twenty five sacks come by how many picks? Ten? 2220 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:05,920 Speaker 4: That's not a lot. 2221 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:08,679 Speaker 2: Oh five each is not bad? 2222 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that. 2223 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the sacks. I 2224 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,080 Speaker 5: think that impacts more passing players. 2225 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,200 Speaker 2: Okay, probably, and hopefully you can hurt somebody. 2226 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:17,760 Speaker 5: Oh man, we don't want to do that. 2227 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:19,320 Speaker 3: Go there, How do you do that? 2228 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:20,240 Speaker 2: Because you like it? 2229 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 5: You like that? 2230 01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,760 Speaker 2: Would you rather have Jude on, we just did that one. 2231 01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 2: Would you rather see set have ten touchdowns through six games? 2232 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 2: Or may play ten games regardless of performance, may play 2233 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:34,559 Speaker 2: ten games. 2234 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 5: Regardless regardless Teadless Kober said, we just want nothing to 2235 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:43,200 Speaker 5: do well after today. 2236 01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:44,439 Speaker 4: It was kind of like, what are we going to 2237 01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:45,120 Speaker 4: do with this guy? 2238 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,520 Speaker 5: For you? Well, if you told me like twenty touchdowns 2239 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,640 Speaker 5: through six games and I'm like, okay, now he's not 2240 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:51,479 Speaker 5: like he's ripping it up. 2241 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think when we say the door is 2242 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,200 Speaker 3: like cracked open. It's because if they're equal, then you 2243 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 3: play the younger guy, right and right now, Jacoby Brissett 2244 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,200 Speaker 3: is not doing anything that blows you away to be like, oh, 2245 01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,360 Speaker 3: he's head and shoulders better than Drake May Right now, 2246 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 3: I just can't say that I'd rather see Drake. 2247 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacob writes in from Orange County, you know where 2248 01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:16,680 Speaker 2: that is very well? 2249 01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 3: Well, the question is does he know Jacob? 2250 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,360 Speaker 4: Well, not not personally, no, but I've heard about him. 2251 01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 2: You know, No, Jacob, you know that they call the 2252 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:26,479 Speaker 2: Orange County the o C. 2253 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:27,880 Speaker 5: I want to know that. 2254 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:28,880 Speaker 4: Welcome to the o C. 2255 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 3: Misha Barton. 2256 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,920 Speaker 5: Do you know that that scripted the show, the Old 2257 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:41,200 Speaker 5: Regular Show. It wasn't a reality show, Rachel Bilson and 2258 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 5: there was another. 2259 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 3: Who's the guy? What's the guy's name? 2260 01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:43,639 Speaker 7: Seth? 2261 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? What was his name? 2262 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,240 Speaker 5: Seth Cohen was his name on the show. But Adam 2263 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,519 Speaker 5: Brody Adam Brody good. Yeah, it wasn't a bad It 2264 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,160 Speaker 5: was one of my show's friend. It's one of my 2265 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,800 Speaker 5: stories when you program even didn't watch it because it 2266 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:55,360 Speaker 5: didn't stream. 2267 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,640 Speaker 3: You're a big soaps guy was on Fox. Didn't know 2268 01:36:58,720 --> 01:36:59,880 Speaker 3: that I used to. 2269 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,519 Speaker 5: That wasn't really soap, But I did back in the day. 2270 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,799 Speaker 5: I was in college, right, yeah, college days. 2271 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:05,160 Speaker 3: Are our lives. 2272 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 4: I watched the Little Days. 2273 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,960 Speaker 5: But I loved Santa Oh Barbara. I loved Robin Wright. 2274 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 5: That's where I invented. 2275 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,200 Speaker 3: She was in you invented Robin Forest. 2276 01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:15,360 Speaker 5: This was before Forrest Co. 2277 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:17,200 Speaker 3: It was in the eighties. 2278 01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:18,439 Speaker 4: Get on my level. 2279 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 5: She is stunningly beautiful. 2280 01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,040 Speaker 2: All right? Did you ever have a poster of a 2281 01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:24,839 Speaker 2: woman on your wall in your bedroom? 2282 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:25,720 Speaker 3: Negative? Ghost rider? 2283 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 7: I had a swimsuit calendar that my dad got signed 2284 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,880 Speaker 7: by Kathy Ireland when she came to rebook, and so 2285 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 7: for one year I had a swimsuit with Kathy Ireland. 2286 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,280 Speaker 3: Was just like stay that it's stayed on Kathy Ireland. 2287 01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,240 Speaker 7: I think we went back to Kathy Ireland after the 2288 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,160 Speaker 7: year her paulinapores Co. 2289 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:43,920 Speaker 3: Those are my Those are my Taffy Ireland. 2290 01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 2: That's leg I didn't have. 2291 01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,280 Speaker 3: Would you don't know who Kathy Ireland is? 2292 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,080 Speaker 5: She was actually in a football I know, I would 2293 01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:52,960 Speaker 5: think you'd know what necessary roughness? 2294 01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,839 Speaker 3: What's called necessary? 2295 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,479 Speaker 4: Scott that one? 2296 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the quarterback she was. That sounds terrible, 2297 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,360 Speaker 3: it was, but it was great at the same time 2298 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,480 Speaker 3: she was the kicker. Yeah, there's terribly great. 2299 01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,400 Speaker 2: Uh, Jacob in the OC Anyway, I've been listening to 2300 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,960 Speaker 2: for years and have noticed you never talk about the 2301 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:19,799 Speaker 2: long snapper position. My son is a long snapper in college, 2302 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,920 Speaker 2: which is honestly the only reason I have an interest 2303 01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,240 Speaker 2: in the position. What are your takes on the current 2304 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,960 Speaker 2: snapper the Patriots have. I'm a pool guy and it's 2305 01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,479 Speaker 2: a pretty solitary gig. Listening to you all really makes 2306 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,240 Speaker 2: my day better. Well that's great, Well, it's it's still 2307 01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 2: Joe Cordona until further right. 2308 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,599 Speaker 3: A lot to make long snappers matter. 2309 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm here for it, Okay. 2310 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,880 Speaker 3: I think that what we need to do is really 2311 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:49,320 Speaker 3: have some advanced metrics, you know, some analytics into long snappers, 2312 01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,120 Speaker 3: and really the biggest one is operation time, Like how 2313 01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:56,000 Speaker 3: long does it actually take snap whole kick? And that's 2314 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:59,280 Speaker 3: what really they judge these guys off of. Like, obviously 2315 01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,960 Speaker 3: accuracy of snap is important too, uh, but it's more 2316 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,120 Speaker 3: importantly once you get to this level, since most of 2317 01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 3: them are accurate ninety nine point nine percent of the time, 2318 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,000 Speaker 3: it's really how fast it gets back to the snapper 2319 01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,040 Speaker 3: and how quickly the whole operation goes. 2320 01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,639 Speaker 4: Cory, do you INJEARI Paul, No, No, that's not one. 2321 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:17,719 Speaker 5: I think Cardon is fine. 2322 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:19,559 Speaker 3: Card is fine. I agree. 2323 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,640 Speaker 2: Uh this uh, this is Dan in Boston. He's got 2324 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 2: a long email about and it's a rant about Gerard. 2325 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,680 Speaker 2: And so when you're not going to read it, No, 2326 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,559 Speaker 2: I'm not going to read the whole thing, it's too long. 2327 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 2: But to encapsulate it, he said Gerard has basically given 2328 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,240 Speaker 2: fans no confidence in his ability to be a head coach. 2329 01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,600 Speaker 2: And he goes on about the things he said. 2330 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,479 Speaker 3: It's literally coach zero games. 2331 01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like we don't know if he's going to be 2332 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:47,080 Speaker 2: a good head coach. 2333 01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:47,720 Speaker 3: He doesn't know. 2334 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,880 Speaker 5: He said, what are some of the reasons why he 2335 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:50,920 Speaker 5: doesn't have any confidence? 2336 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,400 Speaker 2: Things He says, like, you know, I'm leaning on other 2337 01:39:54,479 --> 01:40:00,320 Speaker 2: people to teach me things. Uh, let's see talk about 2338 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:05,040 Speaker 2: having all these coaches, but never about how he manages them. Uh, 2339 01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,120 Speaker 2: talks about being a rookie head coach, needing to learn. 2340 01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 2: He seems to have no attention to detail. I don't 2341 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:13,920 Speaker 2: know why. He says that. 2342 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:15,880 Speaker 5: It's like, this is why I wanted to know some 2343 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 5: of the reasons, Like most of those don't really make 2344 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,719 Speaker 5: a lot of sense. What have you've seen that says 2345 01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 5: he doesn't have attention to detail? 2346 01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did think. I asked him about it this 2347 01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,759 Speaker 3: morning because he had done that interview with Sebastiman Volmer 2348 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:31,920 Speaker 3: for deutsch Land and he mentioned about wanting to be 2349 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,960 Speaker 3: a CEO coach more than a you know, he's not 2350 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 3: calling to d DeMarcus Covington is gonna call it. Even 2351 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 3: I thought that whole thing is a little interesting, just 2352 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 3: because as a rookie head coach, you don't really have 2353 01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:48,360 Speaker 3: the bill thing where you're gonna just have your hands 2354 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 3: in every single pod and be able to know what 2355 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 3: exactly you're talking about. So a lot of these rookie 2356 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,800 Speaker 3: head coaches or young head coaches typically just say I'm 2357 01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:01,240 Speaker 3: gonna call plays on offense, gonna call plays on defense. 2358 01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:04,599 Speaker 3: I'll just use the rams for an example. I'm Sean McVay, 2359 01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 3: I'm thirty six years old, I just got the job. 2360 01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hire Wade Phillips to be my defensive coordinator. 2361 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 3: He's here's the defense, you do your thing. I'm gonna 2362 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,280 Speaker 3: call the offense because that's my specialty. And it's almost 2363 01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,280 Speaker 3: like you have two head coaches in a way, like 2364 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,000 Speaker 3: you have a head coach of the offense head coach 2365 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,200 Speaker 3: of the defense, whereas Girod is doing the bill thing, 2366 01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 3: which is he's gonna be the CEO and he's gonna 2367 01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,559 Speaker 3: delegate all these different things. I just think it's interesting 2368 01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,280 Speaker 3: that he's decided to go that way. I'm not saying 2369 01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,360 Speaker 3: it's gonna necessarily be a bad thing, but since he 2370 01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,000 Speaker 3: does admit that he doesn't know offense, like I. 2371 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 7: Don't really Yeah, I think i'd be a little bit 2372 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,479 Speaker 7: more thrown if he was like, I'm gonna call plays now. 2373 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,160 Speaker 7: I don't know why, but it just seems like that 2374 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:42,519 Speaker 7: would be something even new for him. 2375 01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:46,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm with Mike. I kind of like that man. 2376 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 2: He ended up by saying, I'm just saying the early 2377 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,000 Speaker 2: warning signs of being a bad head coach are apparent, 2378 01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:53,759 Speaker 2: and I hope you guys see. 2379 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,519 Speaker 5: Them too, Okay, Like, yeah, I'm not sure I'm there. 2380 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,720 Speaker 2: For a guy who's never been a head coach, what 2381 01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,080 Speaker 2: are the warning signs that he's going to be a 2382 01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,760 Speaker 2: bad head coach or even a good head coach? I mean, 2383 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,560 Speaker 2: like someone who's never done it before, Like, what, what 2384 01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,880 Speaker 2: are you judging them by you know, I don't know, 2385 01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,479 Speaker 2: like mcveigh's a good example. And I was thinking that 2386 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,080 Speaker 2: about that exact thing when I was outside that, you know, 2387 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,679 Speaker 2: when when Gerard was doing his press conference today talking 2388 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,640 Speaker 2: about how he's leaning on Alex van Pelt and you know, 2389 01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 2: because he doesn't know, you know, offense, so you know, 2390 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:31,080 Speaker 2: he's learning. And I can understand where. You know, he's 2391 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,760 Speaker 2: the head coach. You want him to be confident and 2392 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:38,479 Speaker 2: you know, have all the answers, but maybe most coaches 2393 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 2: aren't honest who are first year head coaches and they're 2394 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,120 Speaker 2: afraid to say that, and maybe in his maybe he's 2395 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,559 Speaker 2: just not afraid to say, I don't know, I'm learning. 2396 01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:47,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2397 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,840 Speaker 3: His response to the question was kind of interesting. Yeah, 2398 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,840 Speaker 3: he said that he first he said that, and I'm paraphrasing, 2399 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,080 Speaker 3: but basically he suggested that the coaches that call players 2400 01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,560 Speaker 3: are trying to protect their own job security, which I 2401 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,519 Speaker 3: didn't we understand, don't. I don't really understand it either. 2402 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,639 Speaker 5: I think I put you more in the crosshairs because 2403 01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 5: now it's more on. 2404 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,000 Speaker 3: We can blame you. Hey, stinks it's your fault, right, 2405 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought that was that was interesting too. 2406 01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm not with the emailer by any means. No, I'm 2407 01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:15,439 Speaker 3: not either. 2408 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 5: I just and I'm not saying the email is wrong. 2409 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,280 Speaker 5: I'm just saying I don't look at some of the 2410 01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:23,240 Speaker 5: examples that he gave as being indications that he will 2411 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:24,080 Speaker 5: not be a good head. 2412 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:24,559 Speaker 3: Coach right now. 2413 01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 7: And I think the only thing you could ask of 2414 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,120 Speaker 7: him is the only thing that we've heard from. Some 2415 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,160 Speaker 7: of the other coaches from New England that have failed 2416 01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,640 Speaker 7: have been trying to be Bill and say what you 2417 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,320 Speaker 7: will about your row. But I don't think in any 2418 01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 7: sense he's trying to be Bill right now. No, he's 2419 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,400 Speaker 7: trying to be himself. He's trying to omit what he 2420 01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,519 Speaker 7: doesn't know. You know, a lot of these techniques and stuff. 2421 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:45,400 Speaker 7: It's all like modern leadership study. All that kind of 2422 01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,680 Speaker 7: stuff is everything that he's trying to integrate, you know, 2423 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,000 Speaker 7: from pictures in the locker room to all that stuff. So, 2424 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,240 Speaker 7: I mean, Paul's right, like you know, we said it 2425 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,000 Speaker 7: like when Bill was going to leave, Like there are 2426 01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,160 Speaker 7: a lot of different ways that a coach can work 2427 01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,280 Speaker 7: that can get guys to play hard and get the 2428 01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 7: organization and you know, all together pushing in the same direction, 2429 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:03,919 Speaker 7: so there's no guarantee. 2430 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:05,120 Speaker 4: I just I don't really get the vibe. 2431 01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's just as bad to say, 2432 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,559 Speaker 2: I know he's going to be a great coach. Oh, 2433 01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 2: how would you know that? 2434 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:11,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 2435 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,320 Speaker 2: And how do you know he's going to be a 2436 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 2: bad coach? 2437 01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,680 Speaker 5: Like to Mike's point, like, and I do look at it. 2438 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,560 Speaker 5: I think that would be an example of one of 2439 01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,840 Speaker 5: the things that worries me is that I think you 2440 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:22,960 Speaker 5: said he's like really a lot of corporate speak, a 2441 01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,479 Speaker 5: lot of you know, you know, the business kind of jargon, 2442 01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,560 Speaker 5: leader of men kind of like that worries me, Like 2443 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,479 Speaker 5: the men, you know. I think he had a comment 2444 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,439 Speaker 5: about a month ago about he wants the players to 2445 01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,800 Speaker 5: run the team, and I'm not sure that football works 2446 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,760 Speaker 5: that way. Well now, there are a lot of ways 2447 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 5: to do it, but I'm not sure that you can 2448 01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 5: be just sort of hands off, no no, and let 2449 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:45,599 Speaker 5: let it police itself. 2450 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,200 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, I you know, I wish there 2451 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,000 Speaker 2: was more follow up to some of these things he 2452 01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,880 Speaker 2: says and be able to delve into it, because I 2453 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,000 Speaker 2: don't know if he means it this way, but we 2454 01:44:55,120 --> 01:45:00,200 Speaker 2: all know that. At least I've heard Ernie Adams say, like, 2455 01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:02,720 Speaker 2: when did you know that this Patriots team in the 2456 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 2: early two thousands, when the locker room started to police itself, 2457 01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,559 Speaker 2: When that's when we knew, Okay, we've got a team 2458 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,120 Speaker 2: and maybe that type of mindset. Because Ernie was here, 2459 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,760 Speaker 2: when Gerard was here, he heard that, and he knows 2460 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,920 Speaker 2: that's the sign of a good team when a team 2461 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,800 Speaker 2: can police itself and you have the guys on your 2462 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:23,639 Speaker 2: team that are enforcers. 2463 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,599 Speaker 5: So why do you think it got to that point? 2464 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,120 Speaker 2: Because Bill brought in the right people exactly. 2465 01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 5: There was a discipline established by the coaches that eventually 2466 01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,400 Speaker 5: the players said, hey, listen, we can screw around all 2467 01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:38,200 Speaker 5: we want, but it's only going to end up getting 2468 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,360 Speaker 5: us in trouble. So we might as well just do 2469 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,280 Speaker 5: it the way he wants it done. And now we're 2470 01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,640 Speaker 5: policing ourselves, right, I'm worried that, Well, you guys do 2471 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,719 Speaker 5: what you want, and I'm not I'm exaggerating on purpose. 2472 01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am not. 2473 01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:51,960 Speaker 5: You know, naive to think that Drod May was just 2474 01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:53,800 Speaker 5: like in a country club every day. 2475 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,240 Speaker 2: I don't. And That's why I'd like to delve into 2476 01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:57,559 Speaker 2: like what he means by. 2477 01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,760 Speaker 5: But I do wonder that if you know, you establishing 2478 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,760 Speaker 5: up front that you have enough discipline to then get 2479 01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,639 Speaker 5: to the point where your team can run it side. 2480 01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,680 Speaker 2: In order to do what he wants to do, you 2481 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:08,920 Speaker 2: have to have those players. 2482 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, there's a difference between having your players take 2483 01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,559 Speaker 7: ownership and the inmates running the asylum, right, Like that's 2484 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 7: like kind of the disparity. 2485 01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,280 Speaker 2: But I yeah, if your best players an Tonio Brown, 2486 01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:18,960 Speaker 2: you're in trouble. 2487 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,360 Speaker 3: I mean perfect perfectly put. 2488 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,720 Speaker 7: But I do think if you're taking you know, a 2489 01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,160 Speaker 7: look at this team and looking at modern you know, 2490 01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,559 Speaker 7: what we know about psychology and what they talk about 2491 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,600 Speaker 7: of how to you know, empower people to do these things. Like, 2492 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:32,760 Speaker 7: that's the route he's taking right now. He's taking a 2493 01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:36,120 Speaker 7: very modern approach to empowering people to take ownership of this. 2494 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:40,439 Speaker 7: But it's still football, and that's and that's and that's fair. 2495 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 7: That's fair. You know, there's like like we said, I mean, 2496 01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,360 Speaker 7: hard ass coach, Lucy goosey coach. Both can kind of win. 2497 01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,439 Speaker 7: But you know, I think he needs the players he 2498 01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,400 Speaker 7: needs to play. And again, it goes back to the 2499 01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,640 Speaker 7: star players to set the tone, and if Drake may 2500 01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 7: is a star and he's continuing to do what he 2501 01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,080 Speaker 7: does every time, where he's throwing passes with guys we have, 2502 01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,000 Speaker 7: you know, if that's continuing to happen while he's a 2503 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:00,960 Speaker 7: starter and he's in the locker room, you know, first 2504 01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,400 Speaker 7: guy and all that kind of stuff, like it doesn't 2505 01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,120 Speaker 7: really matter. I think what Girod Mayo was trying to 2506 01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,599 Speaker 7: do is, you know, almost make the sow the fields 2507 01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,200 Speaker 7: so these things can happen hopefully, But if he doesn't 2508 01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:11,240 Speaker 7: get star players. 2509 01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:12,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna be really matter. 2510 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:15,920 Speaker 3: I just wonder how much of it stems from the 2511 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,200 Speaker 3: fact that when I think of Gerrod Mayo as a coach, 2512 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:19,720 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying that he doesn't know any x's 2513 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,559 Speaker 3: and o's and he doesn't have any chops, like, I'm 2514 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,400 Speaker 3: not saying that at all, but I don't think of 2515 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,640 Speaker 3: him in the same light of like a Mike McDaniel 2516 01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:30,400 Speaker 3: or like even a Tamiko Ryans tight pants. Well sure, 2517 01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,720 Speaker 3: but also just that he's not one of these like 2518 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:38,040 Speaker 3: whiz kid schematic geniuses, right that these people are, and 2519 01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:42,280 Speaker 3: so his his like plus trait as a coach is 2520 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,880 Speaker 3: like his leadership ability and and his gravitas, and that 2521 01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,439 Speaker 3: was what he was like as a player too, to 2522 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,320 Speaker 3: you know, he was you know what was it, uh 2523 01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:56,120 Speaker 3: like Bill or or whatever. They used to call him 2524 01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,519 Speaker 3: Girod Belichick, right, So that was like the big thing 2525 01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,960 Speaker 3: for him was that that is who he was. And 2526 01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 3: I feel like that's why he's taking the CEO approach, 2527 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 3: and I feel like that's why he's doing what Deuce 2528 01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,720 Speaker 3: is saying and trying to build it in that way. 2529 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:13,080 Speaker 3: I just wonder when the chips are down, and you like, 2530 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:17,160 Speaker 3: do they have enough of the brain power to go 2531 01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:18,960 Speaker 3: toe to toe with some of these other teams that 2532 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 3: they're going to go toe to toe with? Because if 2533 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,840 Speaker 3: it were me, and you all know this, I'm not 2534 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,080 Speaker 3: like breaking any news here. If it were me, I 2535 01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,640 Speaker 3: would have went the tight pants are out right, like 2536 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,400 Speaker 3: I would have hired like a Ben Johnson or or 2537 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,719 Speaker 3: someone like that. Oh speaking of him, Yeah, his press 2538 01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,880 Speaker 3: conference turned me off a little bit. Oh yeah, but 2539 01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,920 Speaker 3: I would have went that route instead because I know 2540 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,000 Speaker 3: for a fact that what I'm getting with that guy 2541 01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,879 Speaker 3: is that my offense is going to be next level. 2542 01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:45,479 Speaker 2: Right real quick. 2543 01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,280 Speaker 5: Because I want this Ben Johnson before we have to 2544 01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 5: get off. But when you when you said, like, it's 2545 01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 5: the modern you know, and I totally agree. Again, I'm 2546 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,880 Speaker 5: with Evan. I agree with everything that you said. My 2547 01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,519 Speaker 5: concern about that is what so this is definitely the 2548 01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 5: modern way the modern athlete, well what do we know now? 2549 01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,559 Speaker 5: Like has sort of become prevalent about the modern athlete. 2550 01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:08,080 Speaker 5: They have wandering eyes, They don't want to stay you know, like, no, 2551 01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,000 Speaker 5: it's not working here, So I'm just going to go there. 2552 01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,320 Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that because I don't want 2553 01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,320 Speaker 5: to do that, and I'm just going to go somewhere 2554 01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:15,560 Speaker 5: where they're gonna let me do it the way I 2555 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,519 Speaker 5: want to do it. And I think that's my concern 2556 01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,920 Speaker 5: is that there's not enough of that discipline. I understand 2557 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:26,320 Speaker 5: Evan's concern about just flat out Ex's and O's. I'm 2558 01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,280 Speaker 5: less worried about that because I think these guys, you know, 2559 01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,559 Speaker 5: is he Bill Belichick. No, But I think he has 2560 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,479 Speaker 5: enough of an aptitude for football to be able to 2561 01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,280 Speaker 5: put together at least the defense. But I don't know 2562 01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:41,040 Speaker 5: if they have enough gravitas in the locker room to 2563 01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,559 Speaker 5: get the players buying in on board for a length 2564 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,800 Speaker 5: of time, Like right now, there's a buy in right now. 2565 01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:49,840 Speaker 5: I think that's what I talked about. The number one 2566 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,200 Speaker 5: thing my takeaway from OTA's is the enthusiasm. I think 2567 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,000 Speaker 5: they have bought it. I talked to Anthony Jennings a 2568 01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,000 Speaker 5: little bit about playing for a former player and how 2569 01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:01,200 Speaker 5: they like that and whatnot. Right now, I think they're 2570 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:01,519 Speaker 5: bought in. 2571 01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 3: Losing game if you're two and eight, Yeah, I think 2572 01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:07,800 Speaker 3: we're like saying the same thing in a different way 2573 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,000 Speaker 3: because I think the biggest thing to me is like 2574 01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,320 Speaker 3: that's his that's his carrying trait, is that he's supposed 2575 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,920 Speaker 3: to be able to bring people together and like that 2576 01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:17,760 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, And I just don't know 2577 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,320 Speaker 3: if that's going to actually win football games. Like they 2578 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,439 Speaker 3: might have a great locker room and they might have 2579 01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,040 Speaker 3: like great team camaraderie and the guys might be bought 2580 01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:29,120 Speaker 3: in and all that kind of stuff, But is that 2581 01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,920 Speaker 3: if you don't have that bill chess match thing going on? 2582 01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:35,800 Speaker 3: Like can you win at a high level with a 2583 01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:39,519 Speaker 3: guy that's literally just you know, the CEO of the 2584 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,200 Speaker 3: team and not really the puppet massah? 2585 01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:47,360 Speaker 2: And you know, is there consequences for going rogue? Like 2586 01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,720 Speaker 2: I think with Bill, you were afraid to be the 2587 01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:55,040 Speaker 2: guy that screwed up, you know, And is Bill is 2588 01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:57,560 Speaker 2: going to be able to establish that, you know, not 2589 01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,920 Speaker 2: coaching out of fear, but the fear of effing up? 2590 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,800 Speaker 5: When when you when when Connor was growing up? Did 2591 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:06,720 Speaker 5: Connor do things that you never would have dreamed of 2592 01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:08,520 Speaker 5: because you would have been too afraid. 2593 01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,720 Speaker 2: To do No, I did much things, much worse than 2594 01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:11,040 Speaker 2: he did. 2595 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,320 Speaker 5: Oh, okay, then you got you got lucky. My kids, 2596 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:17,400 Speaker 5: I guess are just But I was really bad. Okay, 2597 01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,040 Speaker 5: so like I I wasn't really bad. 2598 01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 2: Now. 2599 01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 3: I got in trouble like everybody else. 2600 01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:26,240 Speaker 5: But I had an instinctive fear of letting my parents 2601 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,240 Speaker 5: down that I don't think exists. 2602 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:28,720 Speaker 2: I hear that. 2603 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,240 Speaker 5: And it's not because my kids do not do the 2604 01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:31,680 Speaker 5: right thing. 2605 01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:32,960 Speaker 3: They do, you know. 2606 01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:37,760 Speaker 5: But I'm lucky because I see a widespread attitude that 2607 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,160 Speaker 5: just doesn't care. They care more about letting their friends 2608 01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:41,519 Speaker 5: down then letting their parents down. 2609 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2610 01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, And when you were talking, Paul two, I was 2611 01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,320 Speaker 7: getting and I feel this is kind of across sports 2612 01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,519 Speaker 7: with this this generation now that's you know, of age, 2613 01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:51,600 Speaker 7: and is that the inconsistency hit off my line and 2614 01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:53,800 Speaker 7: I don't know, this could be old man deuce, but 2615 01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 7: like it just feels like a lot of teams across 2616 01:51:56,439 --> 01:52:00,360 Speaker 7: the spectrum, bruined Celtics included, are so up in down 2617 01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,920 Speaker 7: and like on games where you're like, well, they don't 2618 01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,439 Speaker 7: really need this one, then they're not showing up like 2619 01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,040 Speaker 7: you know, and it's like, well, like like that's kind 2620 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:07,959 Speaker 7: of almost a general. 2621 01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:11,000 Speaker 4: Expectation now modern athletes is that well, if it's. 2622 01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,240 Speaker 5: Not a big game, can you imagine nineteen eighty five 2623 01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,120 Speaker 5: talking about the Celtics playing the nets and this is 2624 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,240 Speaker 5: a scheduled loss. 2625 01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:19,280 Speaker 3: Please? 2626 01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2627 01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,280 Speaker 3: I see it all the time with like, Okay Boomer, 2628 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:25,479 Speaker 3: I see it so much with the Celtics, and I 2629 01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 3: think that this is trickling. And when we talk to 2630 01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:30,719 Speaker 3: these guys, I don't want to say kids, like I'm ninety, 2631 01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,680 Speaker 3: but when we talked to them at the combine and 2632 01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:34,479 Speaker 3: stuff like that, you see it a little bit more. 2633 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,760 Speaker 3: And like I hear you know Paul's shows all the time. 2634 01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,760 Speaker 3: There's not enough dog in Jason Tatum right, Like he's 2635 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:41,840 Speaker 3: not a killer, Like he doesn't just go out there 2636 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:45,720 Speaker 3: and grab it. It's like, are any of them are 2637 01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,960 Speaker 3: like does that exist anymore that like maybe in one 2638 01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,160 Speaker 3: or two of them, are you know, like that that's 2639 01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:54,600 Speaker 3: that killer instinct that Brady had, that's that sort of 2640 01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:56,760 Speaker 3: think like Luca might have it, but like there are 2641 01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:01,840 Speaker 3: very few guys and especially American athletes that have that 2642 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,040 Speaker 3: type of thing going. Even like Mahomes, I feel like 2643 01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,800 Speaker 3: it's he's just better than everybody else. Like I don't 2644 01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:11,320 Speaker 3: know if he necessarily has this like killer instinct, work 2645 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:12,160 Speaker 3: ethic or whatever. 2646 01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:15,160 Speaker 5: He's he's as close to Brady like with that mentality 2647 01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,479 Speaker 5: that thirteen second game like to me was that was 2648 01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:18,240 Speaker 5: vintage Brady. 2649 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,360 Speaker 3: All Right, here we go. Yeah. 2650 01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,080 Speaker 7: I hear what Evan's saying though, because it's almost like 2651 01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,920 Speaker 7: Mahomes is just like naturally able to do it. 2652 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:28,920 Speaker 4: But I hear what you're saying. 2653 01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:30,680 Speaker 3: I just don't I feel like we put a lot 2654 01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,600 Speaker 3: of stock in that. And I think I don't know 2655 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:34,280 Speaker 3: if any of them. 2656 01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,479 Speaker 2: I think those killers all have one thing in common 2657 01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,240 Speaker 2: is they hate to lose. They I don't care what 2658 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:40,560 Speaker 2: it is. 2659 01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:41,439 Speaker 5: They hate to lose. 2660 01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:45,960 Speaker 2: Almost cards or ping pong or dominoes or football or basketball. 2661 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:49,760 Speaker 2: They hate to lose, and they'll do anything to keep 2662 01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:53,760 Speaker 2: from losing. You know, I see it like going. You know, 2663 01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:57,000 Speaker 2: my favorite sport tennis. Like these tennis players these days, 2664 01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:57,599 Speaker 2: they're soft. 2665 01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:59,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, don't hate to lose as much. 2666 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,360 Speaker 2: That's why Jokovic does so well. He's not soft. 2667 01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:03,920 Speaker 3: Totally agree, he's. 2668 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,280 Speaker 5: He's some of the he's a killer. Some of these 2669 01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:08,680 Speaker 5: young he has killed. They're pretty good. And they'll be 2670 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:10,640 Speaker 5: up like you know, they'll be up a set in 2671 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,439 Speaker 5: the fourth and they'll be up like forty to fifteen, 2672 01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,599 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden they'll get broken. Matches over. Yeah, 2673 01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,120 Speaker 5: it's like they crumble, like you were in total control 2674 01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:22,320 Speaker 5: of the match. You had a lapse in judgment, the 2675 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,680 Speaker 5: other guy made a couple of shots and then you all, 2676 01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:26,680 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, it's you're down or break in 2677 01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,439 Speaker 5: the fifth like that. You see it happen all the time. 2678 01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you saw Paul, 2679 01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,680 Speaker 2: but Djokovic had a match at French Open that ended 2680 01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,680 Speaker 2: at three thirty in the morning at the five Center. Yeah, 2681 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,040 Speaker 2: three thirty in the morning, and now he. 2682 01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:42,520 Speaker 3: Might not be able to play then eight match. 2683 01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,680 Speaker 2: Right, but you first set, you thought he's not gonna 2684 01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,440 Speaker 2: make it, and he I mean he ran away with 2685 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,040 Speaker 2: it at the end, six to zero in the last set, 2686 01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:51,120 Speaker 2: unbelievably thirty seven years old. 2687 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's gonna be interesting to see this 2688 01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,440 Speaker 3: wave of quarterbacks that's coming into the league. Like to 2689 01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,680 Speaker 3: any of them, I don't know, Like we talked to Kleb, 2690 01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,320 Speaker 3: we talked to Jayden Daniels, to Drake May, It's like, 2691 01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, someone will have it right. 2692 01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,120 Speaker 5: A lot of these guys will be great, right. 2693 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:07,760 Speaker 7: So, I mean, I think it's tough to read with 2694 01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:10,080 Speaker 7: Drake because I think he's kind of a likable kind 2695 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,160 Speaker 7: of kid, and you know, but he's but he's also 2696 01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,440 Speaker 7: the younger brother, and so I feel like those kids, 2697 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,240 Speaker 7: those guys always kind of have a chip on their 2698 01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:17,640 Speaker 7: shoulder and. 2699 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,720 Speaker 5: They have a toughness about them because they're used to 2700 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,760 Speaker 5: getting beat his brothers. 2701 01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:26,280 Speaker 2: I like the fact that he came up a house. 2702 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,560 Speaker 2: I think that's a huge You had to fight for 2703 01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 2: that last piece of meat on the table. 2704 01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,640 Speaker 3: I think that is much bigger deal than people made it. 2705 01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:36,880 Speaker 5: I think it's a huge plus. In his column, can 2706 01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:38,800 Speaker 5: I get a little Ben Johnson because. 2707 01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,280 Speaker 2: So he was mentioning, you know, like they asked him, 2708 01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,040 Speaker 2: you know, why did you go back to being in 2709 01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,000 Speaker 2: oc and not pursue being a He goes, I forget 2710 01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,520 Speaker 2: exactly what he said preemptively, but he said, you know, 2711 01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:51,600 Speaker 2: there were a lot of narratives out there about me 2712 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,640 Speaker 2: that people were talking about that, you know, I just 2713 01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:56,360 Speaker 2: didn't want to have to deal with. And all I 2714 01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,280 Speaker 2: could think about was that guy that called up our 2715 01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:02,120 Speaker 2: show about yelling at the at the school play. It's like, 2716 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:03,680 Speaker 2: is what he's talking about. 2717 01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,960 Speaker 3: The way I think of that? But that's not my brain. 2718 01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 3: The Washington job, it felt like he basically just flat 2719 01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:17,240 Speaker 3: out says Washington stinks and I'm not gonna hitch my 2720 01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,560 Speaker 3: wagon to this awful team. 2721 01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 2: But did he talk about narratives that were yeah? 2722 01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,640 Speaker 3: But I I just the more that I heard of 2723 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,560 Speaker 3: him talk, it was kind of like almost a little arrogant. 2724 01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,440 Speaker 3: And the fact that he's like, I'm gonna go only 2725 01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:35,000 Speaker 3: to like a cookie cutter, I know I can win 2726 01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,280 Speaker 3: and sustain here type of situation, and he's not going 2727 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:40,080 Speaker 3: to go to a team like Washington who has a 2728 01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,120 Speaker 3: second overall pick, and he's gonna have to fix it 2729 01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:44,720 Speaker 3: and like put it all together, like if Dallas fires 2730 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,680 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy then he's gonna be the first one in 2731 01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:48,400 Speaker 3: line for that job. But it's not going to be 2732 01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,800 Speaker 3: you know, rebuilding project that he's got to do. 2733 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,440 Speaker 5: I think it is about ego because he probably feels 2734 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,000 Speaker 5: like I'm good enough that I can choose. Yeah, like 2735 01:56:56,120 --> 01:57:00,080 Speaker 5: a lot of like Dave Canalis took Carolina right, and 2736 01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,040 Speaker 5: I don't think that he probably felt like there's only 2737 01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,000 Speaker 5: thirty two of these. I can't be all that choosy. 2738 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:07,200 Speaker 5: This team wants me. I might, I don't know when 2739 01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,720 Speaker 5: I'll get my next opportunity. Whereas Ben Johnson's probably saying, Yeah, 2740 01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:12,280 Speaker 5: we're gonna be good again next year. We're gonna have 2741 01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:13,120 Speaker 5: a great offense again. 2742 01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:13,520 Speaker 3: Next year. 2743 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:15,720 Speaker 5: I'll have my pick of the seven jobs that will 2744 01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:16,160 Speaker 5: open up. 2745 01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:18,120 Speaker 2: Yep, all right. A couple of emails to wrap up 2746 01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:20,720 Speaker 2: the show, James pettigrew the most interesting Patriots fan in 2747 01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,280 Speaker 2: the world. Question for Fred, did you manage to plus 2748 01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,000 Speaker 2: up Brady Day? Oh? We plus plused it up. 2749 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, beyond plussing. 2750 01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Cody writes in thank you, Evan, I could 2751 01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,160 Speaker 2: go all day on Pam. It's the worst character on 2752 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,160 Speaker 2: TV history. Will die on this hill. 2753 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:44,240 Speaker 5: He said, absolutely, I definitely have to watch more Office. 2754 01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:47,640 Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin. Evan is right. Pam is awful, but 2755 01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,800 Speaker 2: so is Jim. They really deserve each. 2756 01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,320 Speaker 3: Other, so you guys nailed it. Yeah too. Jim is 2757 01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:57,120 Speaker 3: in a very happy relationship with Shida Jones's character. Then 2758 01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,840 Speaker 3: they've moved back to Scranton when they branches merge, and 2759 01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,040 Speaker 3: Pam just completely torpedoes it from start to finish to 2760 01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:06,000 Speaker 3: get Jim back, and it just I could go on 2761 01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:07,680 Speaker 3: and okay, I'm done. 2762 01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,280 Speaker 2: And then Rashida Jones had to go work for Parks 2763 01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,000 Speaker 2: and Recreation after that, right yeah. 2764 01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,720 Speaker 7: Well yeah, yeah, same kind right around the same time. 2765 01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:17,560 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's gonna be it for this edition 2766 01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:23,240 Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. When are we going to be back Thursday? Right? 2767 01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:23,440 Speaker 11: No? 2768 01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:27,160 Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, Thursday Thursday. Today's Tuesday, Tuesday. 2769 01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:30,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm mixing up Brady Day and many camps, so 2770 01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:33,760 Speaker 2: we'll be back Thursday, normal time. Correct, Okay, see you. 2771 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:38,960 Speaker 1: Then, thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, 2772 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,000 Speaker 1: google Play, and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, 2773 01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:45,600 Speaker 1: please rate and review us. Listener comments and ratings help 2774 01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:48,400 Speaker 1: keep us high in the podcast rankings so new listeners 2775 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,160 Speaker 1: can find US be sure to check patriots dot com 2776 01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 1: for more news and more podcasts. 2777 01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 2: The World's a Beigeon podcast zero