WEBVTT - Mike Maccagnan Conference Call (3.18.2016) 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 Mike, can you put Uh, what is your perspective of 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.520 the reading surgery and when did you guys know about 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.719 the injury, because he would have listed at all last 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:13.480 ye would have risted, Yeah, this is one. UM honestly 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.400 became probably aware of it about a week or so ago. Um, 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.759 it's again, he's had a surgery on his wrist. Um, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.880 it's nothing again. I'd have to defer to Durrell about 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:29.600 how it was affecting number, how he felt about it. Um, 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.400 it really wasn't on or injury for it because we 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.760 never really treated it during the season. I think the 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.440 most we probably did was just tape his wrist up 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.640 on for game day, which is what we did as 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.280 a kind of a regular practice. Nothing out of the ordinary. Um. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.239 But I think from my understanding, as the as the 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.519 season ended, UM, he was going into the act, you know, 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.440 the exit physical. I don't think he met really mentioned 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.920 the exit physical, but he was seeing a doctor for 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.720 another thing, um, and then mentioned his wrist and they 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.720 looked into it and they got a couple of opinions 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.280 on it, and one of the doctors felt it was 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.440 a potentially are a ligament which didn't show up on 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.840 an m R i UM and they subsequently decided to 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:07.880 do surgery on them. When they went into do surgery, 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.920 they found a guess a tear and that ligament and 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.960 they fixed it. So from our standpoint, we never really 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.880 reported it because it was never something It was an 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.520 injury that we were probably really brought to our attention 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.360 that we were actually treating or aware of at the time. Mike, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:30.560 what's your level of optimism of getting a deal? Patrick, Well, 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.920 I don't really want to get into you know, sort 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.800 of the status or where we are with different negotiations. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.880 I think quite simply, you know Ryan, and we said 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.440 this before, um, you know, we feel you know Ryan, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.480 We we feel we have a very good situation for 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.560 for Ryan here. He's a very good fit for us. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.600 Um you know, our goal i've eventually hopefully to get 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.480 Ryan under contract and go forward that I don't really 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.840 necessarily and we've kind of I think this will be 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.560 the situation when a lot of our you know, there 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.400 are players and agents were dealing with. We don't really 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.920 want to put it, um you know, in context of 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:02.680 you know, are we close, are we far? Are we 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.680 you know, We're we're focused on trying to get the 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.960 player back. And and I kind of like to lieve 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.919 it that I don't really want to get into how 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:13.680 we feel about, you know, where we're at with the 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:19.080 whole process. What might be surprised by how hard it 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.720 had been to get the deal done with Patrick? No, 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.760 not necessarily. I mean it's free agency. So I think, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.840 you know, you go through this process like with any player, um, 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.800 you know, And again I think both parties are basically 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.280 trying to look at what they probably feel is fair. Um, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.079 you know, and it's a process you have to work through, um, 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.799 and we'll see how it plays itself out. I mean again, 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.560 we you know, we we we like Ryan, we're you know, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.560 we'd like to have Ryan back. Um. But I think 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.000 at the end of the day, it's you know, it's 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.000 free agency. So it's it's you go through this and 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.799 at some point time, hopefully we can find a middle ground. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.760 We're both happy with Mike. What is your backup plan 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.480 if you are not able to resign him? And what 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.639 made you want to bring Robert Griffin into the visit? Well, 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.520 I would say, you know, in terms of we do have, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.640 like every team does, contingency plans for all you know, 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.200 that's what you have to be prepared for. UM. I 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.919 don't necessarily want to get into who we have necessarily 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.040 lined up as our contingency plan because at the end 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:21.280 of the day, it's more of a competitive thing. We 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.240 don't want to messily tell other teams what we're gonna do. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:28.560 We did obviously, UM, bringing you know Robert Griffin in UM, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.240 you know, is a situation where he was you know, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.280 he's one of the you know, he's a quarterback as 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.560 you know, and that's just a free agent available on 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.560 the street. And UM, it really was more to do 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.000 our due diligence with him because you know, I probably 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.600 haven't really talked to her seeing him since his Baylor 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.280 pro day for you know whatever years ago. UM, but 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.320 I know that that was so from for one stamp 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.600 and I want to hear him go through all the 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.920 different contingency plans we may have and and like all teams, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.800 we do have contenency plans. UM. But you know, Robert 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.520 Griffin was a player that we looked at it. And again, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.040 our focus primarily is trying to get something to you know, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.040 worked out with Ryan. UM. But again we're just doing 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.000 our due diligence and see what else is out there, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.360 and it was a good you know, it was a 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.880 good meeting. It's more of a a meet and greet 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.040 type of situation with him where we got a chance 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.640 to sort of interact with him a little bit on 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.279 sort of face to face and and if we decided 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:20.960 we want to continue to follow that up, will pursue 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.720 it down the road at some point time. Mike, Obviously, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.800 at some point you're going to have to act on 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.919 those contingency plans if you can't get something doing Ryan. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.240 Do you have a deadline with fits Patrick for when 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.160 you guys need to reach a deal before you guys 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.920 have to act on those continuity plans? Yeah, I don't. Again, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.440 I don't really want to, you know, put like a 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.120 time frame on that necessarily. Um again, I don't really 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.960 want to comment, you know, you know, in those aspects 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.720 of the negotiations because said our focus is is that 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.040 we've said this all along. Our focus is to ideally 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.480 get Ryan back, um you know, in the organization and 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.840 continue forward with him. Um So I think at the 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.039 end of the day, you know, I think at some 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.960 point in time, everybody has you know, you have to 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.760 implement things if you feel you've exhausted all options of 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.599 of trying to get something done. But I think my mind, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.880 that's um, you know, that's not something we're focused on 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.880 quite frankly. Right now. I mean, right now Ryan is 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.760 a free agent and we're actively trying to um you know, 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.320 facilitated contract with him and when it when if and 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.160 when it works out or if it does or doesn't, 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.080 you know, we'll go through that process. And if we 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.479 have to get to the next stage, which is going 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.320 to other other you know, possibilities, well we'll approach that. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:44.320 Then everybody's still there. Next question, might well the British 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.800 on Ferguson be on your roster if that, uh, well, 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.120 right now, obviously Direction is under contract, and you know 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.000 I would say, you know, our focuses or are our 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.279 thought would be he would be um. But like everything 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.640 else with all players, I mean, you know, this is 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.000 an for this earlier on with free agency this year, 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.840 it's it's kind of a fluid free agency for us. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.560 We're trying to you know, we're trying to make decisions 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.599 that are in the best interest of the you know, 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.600 the organization, both short and long term. UM. So I 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.560 would say, you know, are you know right now I 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.080 would say he would be on our roster going forward, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:23.039 but we'll see how this thing unfold. Like if things 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.640 did not work out with Ryan, what's your level of 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.120 comfort of Geno Smith came into camp. I guess as 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.960 the expected starter. Yeah, I would say, you know, you know, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.080 the one thing. And again I wasn't here when Gina 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:37.840 was a starter. But you know, Gino did have a 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.760 very good off season for us last year, and at 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.200 the time of the whole incident was was technically ahead 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:47.280 of Ryan um going into preseason or right about when 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.320 all the stuff happened with I K. So you know, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.919 in a way, Um, that whole the way that you know, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.919 we never had the benefit of Gino working through the 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.839 preseason with Ryan, competing with Ryan to see how that 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.279 how that would have been folded, um, and and and again, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.680 even when we talked about that incident when had happened 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.800 was very unfortunate because we felt Gino had had a 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.920 very good offseason that year, and I remember you guys 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.679 had talked to Chan and taught about that at various times. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.040 But but the whole incident, and you know, within the 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.560 locker room obviously changed everything. Um. But then you know, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.320 then The only other time Gino had a chance to 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.480 really play was in Oakland. UM, and you know, I 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.680 know again I thought there was some I thought he 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.000 did some things well in that game. UM. I thought, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.040 you know, he obviously was able to move the ball 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.880 and be part of some obviously touchdowns we had in 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.000 the game. Um, at the end of the game, I 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.520 know there's some players in there. I'm sure he would 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.040 like to have back, and and you know, we're you know, 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.400 in a perfect world, was probably rather do it over 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.320 have a better outcome. UM. But that all that being said, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.000 I thought, you know, did some good things in that game, 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.840 and especially when you're coming off the bench as a 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.960 second string quarterback and you don't get all the reps 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.040 during the week preparation. And on top of that, really 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.480 that was his first real game experience because he had 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:04.160 missed the whole preseason. UM. So that being said, I mean, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.080 you know, at the end of the day, UM, I 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.120 think what we would do is like with Gino, we 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.840 you know, again we haven't really had him as a 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.600 as a starter force, but you know, he would definitely 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.040 be a possibility to to step in into that role. 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.360 I would defer to Todd at the end of the 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.240 day in terms of who, you know, who would be 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.480 the first, second, third quarterback on our roster depth chart. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.119 But Gino did do some good things and then again 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.280 we'll see how it unful is I you know, I 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.080 think you know, a lot of a lot with Gino, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.720 unfortunately for us, is the way that the season unfolders 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.320 last year. For him, there's a lot of you know, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.400 we don't really have you know, he never really had 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.240 a chance to go out there and do and compete 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.640 for the job. So he's a bit of an unknown really, Mike. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.800 How close for you guys to the Giants in terms 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:50.560 of the offer first snack? Um, you know, I think 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.760 you know, the Giants were very competitive and very aggressive 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.440 with that, and we we tried to stay you know, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.280 we were involved. You know, we were um, you know, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.320 I thought we were floase. When it was all said 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.880 and done, I think the giants, um, you know, the 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.120 Giants were, you know, they they they put a very 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.319 good offer on the table for snacks and um when 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:11.800 it was all said and done, and at the end 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.040 of the day, we're you know, we're very and we 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.360 were disappointed we lost the player or Damon went to 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.559 to another team, but we're very happy for him too. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:20.960 On the other hand, that here the guy who came 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.600 in to the league as a as a college free 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.240 agent and had the ability to play and produce and 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:26.880 then finally get a chance to go hit the market 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.559 and free agency and then be well compensated for that. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.880 But but I think at the end of the day, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.360 we were you know, um, you know, the Giants. At 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:37.640 the end of the day, we were close. But at 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.800 the end of the day, it was that the Giants 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.640 made a very what we felt was a you know, 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:46.240 a very very aggressive, very competitive offer for for Damon 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.440 and um, so I think at the end of the day, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.600 you know, whether how much apart, I don't really want 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.480 to get into those details, but um, but it was 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.520 it was, it was, you know, they made a very significant, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:10:00.280 significant offer and um, you know, it was was above ours. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.760 So that we tried to close the gap as best 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:10.439 we could. Mike, are you open to trading Mohammed Welkerson, Well, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.839 I don't really want to talk about like hypotheticals rank 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.680 players on our roster right now, like what we may 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.360 ORed me and I want to do with with anybody 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.960 or be open or not to Um, but I do. 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.120 I do realize that with all players on our roster. 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.000 I mean, you know, there's always you know, you have 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.839 to look at every player individually and if you have 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.040 an opportunity, um, you know, the better the team, then 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.320 you have to visit that. But I don't think it's 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.320 not something we're actively pursuing. Um. But at the end 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.400 of the day, you know he is he is you know, 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.000 under you under the franchise tag. So um, you know 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.959 I would say we'll see other same players that I 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.559 personally like. I said, it's it's not Um, you know, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.840 I think you have to look at this with every 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.760 player because you always try to make decisions that have 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:54.720 benefit to the team bosport long term. Have you received 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:59.280 any interest from other teams on MO Yeah, again I 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.200 don't really want to, you know, common or speculatory of 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.440 that stuff. Um. You know I will say this, and 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.240 this is not just with Mohammed, this is you know, 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.760 this is you know, teams are constantly talking to each other, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.520 either shopping their own players, um it seems like or 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.800 even enquiring about others. But again I wouldn't you know, 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.160 it's it's more Um, it's more of a it's just 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.880 kind of the nature of our business a little bit. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.400 But again in regards to that, you know, any individual 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:29.959 player in our our team, I don't really want to 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:36.080 comment on any of that stuff. Mike. Are you working 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.800 on things without being specific, are you working on things 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.960 to create more tap space right now? Well? I think 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.199 what you do is you have a lot of it's 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.800 a bit of a puzzle trying to put the team 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.120 together in terms of you know, you know, our freegency 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.240 situation this year, and I mentioned this earlier would be 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.000 very fluid, um but no, we do like a lot 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.640 of things. You go through different contingency plans and what 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.720 you can do, um you know there to create room 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.920 if you need it, or any other other side of 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.760 it too, if you know what you've created for in 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.480 terms of um you know, making you know, decisions that 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.520 will help the team going forward. So I think like 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.080 with every I think every team does this quite frankly, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.280 as you have a lot of places where if you, um, 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.319 you know, decide you want to create money or a room, 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.720 can you have the ability to do that, and then 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.120 you just sort of weigh out on a case by 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.520 case basis if it's um, if it's in the best 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:30.760 interests of what your short and long term goals are. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.680 How would you characterize the decision making in signing Jarvis 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.480 Jenkins and Steve McClendon. Where do you view that? Are 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.600 they viewed as as depth signings or is it possibility 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.520 you know, one or both will make it a chance 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:47.040 to start? Well, I think again, who will you know 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.000 eventually start or not start? Um? All that stuff will 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.080 play itself out over time, and then quite frankly, at 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.840 the end of the day, Todd will make the determination 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.319 on you know, on that UM. I think both the 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.720 signings I would probably put put in some kind of well, 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.160 let me first say that they've agreed to terms with us, um. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.920 But but both of them I would say, um, we're 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.720 in our minds at least good value type guys in 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.680 the marketplace. And that's kind of what we we sort 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.040 of went into looking for. I mean, we we didn't 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.000 have quite the funds we had last year, so this 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.679 was sort of a different approach to free agency. And 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.360 as I mentioned before, the end of the day, we're 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.800 trying to make sure we make smart investments overall. But 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.160 what they do give us ability to do is is, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.360 you know, obviously mcclennon has had, you know, history at 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.480 at the nose tackle position, which it gives us ability 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.000 to line him up there, whether it's in you know, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.160 as a starter, as a sub player. And Jenkins obviously 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.440 has played more or less all the positions on the 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.679 defensive line, so again he gives us some flexibility there 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.000 in terms of line things up. But um, I think 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.480 there's just a lot of you know, there's a lot 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.319 of offseason, there's a lot of training camp ahead of 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.840 us to figure out who's going to be a starter 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.120 or backup. And I wouldn't probably focus too much on, 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.719 you know where, how to how to just make those 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.280 de terminations now and eventually Todd and it's coaches defil 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.080 after they spend time with these guys and will make 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.280 that determination. I'm sure. I'm sure Todd, like well, ideally 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.800 want to put his best players on the field and 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.480 then whatever those guys at, whatever combination of guys that is, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:15.439 that that will work itself out in time. Regarding you, Mike, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.079 regarding your backfield, you kind of assess where you're at 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.160 right now in terms of losing losing what Chris I 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.360 re gave you. But also I guess bringing back and 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.960 bringing in what fort Powell and Robinson office, Yeah, I think, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.880 and and going into free agency. And I mentioned this before. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:33.800 You know, what you prepare for, you know, you do 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.720 market analysis. You try to figure out what you think 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.880 your own guys. You know, first off, the grade everybody 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.160 in free agency, and then you go through and you 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.960 sort of grade your own players and then try to 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.320 figure out what you think, you know, fair market value 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:45.920 of worth is for them. And you have a range 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.680 of you know where you you know, where you would start, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.800 where you feel comfortable at, and then at a certain 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.080 point time where you feel they may go beyond that. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.680 And we always felt Chris is going to be a um, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.000 it would be you know, he was gonna have a 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:02.440 conpetitive marketplace and and we obviously wanted Chris back. But 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:03.520 at the end of the day, we just you know, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.240 we knew that, you know, based on our situation from 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.840 a cap standpoint, that it would be um, you know, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:10.640 at the end of the day was all with every 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.480 player at any position that you have to you know, 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.280 your way of who you who you keep will eventually 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.560 cost you maybe a player or two or whatever the 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.840 case may be, somewhere else and you know, when we 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.880 looked at the free agency market, we mean, you know, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.720 you know, we knew Fote was out there, and um, 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.520 you know, we liked him quite a bit. We know 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.520 he was a little bit older than some other backs, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.600 but he's still a very good back. And at the 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.760 end of the day, we felt as the market kind 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.520 of worked itself out. Um, you're trying to make decisions 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.160 that will help you not only short term but potentially 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.240 long term. And we felt a chance to get a 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.520 player of pourtas quality if the price range we got 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.480 him for was um, you know, really would help us. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:53.600 And then unfortunately Chris, um losing Chris. We were disappointed him, 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.080 but we're happy for him that he got you know, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.640 a good offer, a good deal down there, you know 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.480 from another team. Um. And then we you know, obviousability 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.720 to sort of again redirect some of our funds to 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.800 other positions of their places, to try to sort of 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.600 to make the impact of you know, our cap situation 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.720 a little more um, you know, a little better for us, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.480 and and trying again always sort of I think this year, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.520 if anything, we've tried to target players we like that 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.640 we thought were you know, good value in terms of 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.400 the investment when we made in them, and and Porte 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:27.680 obviously felt very strong about that one. Mike, with regard 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.920 to Fitzpatrick, why do you think there's such a large 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.800 gap between where you guys value him in the market 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.160 place and where his camp thinks and should be valued. Yeah, 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.320 I think that that kind of followed in the same category. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.360 Like I don't I don't really want to weigh in 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.840 from that and those those type of questions, because you know, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.880 we're our focus again. We like Ryan, um, you know, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:49.960 we like very much to get Ryan back in the fold. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.080 And UM, like every free agency, there's you know, there's 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.880 two camps and you have to work through this and UM, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.920 eventually hopefully we can find a middle ground at some 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.720 point in time. We'll see, UM. But I don't necessarily 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.159 want to weigh in why the you know, the market 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.920 was the perception from the outside maybe a certain way. So, Mike, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.360 when you were doing your valuations a free agency, did 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.640 you foresee what happened with the quarterback market this year 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.440 in terms of you know what the Eagles gave Bradford, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.720 your former club gave Osweiler, and even with the Eagles 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.400 gave Chase Daniel Well I think that the one thing 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.159 with free agency this year a little bit um And 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.240 it wouldn't necessarily I mean, um, the quarterback markets are 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.560 always kind of interesting. I mean that's all the markets, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.159 quite frank for all the positions of interest in the 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.479 quarterback market is um, you know, a bit of you know, 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.240 it was an interesting one this year in the sense 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.320 of you know, how much uh, you know, certain players 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.600 may have gotten and not gotten and stuff like that. Um. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.440 But I would say as a whole that we felt 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.840 a little bit going into this market was um, there 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.359 was a market probably flush with cash. There was a 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.720 lot of teams, had a lot of cap space. UM. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.720 I think like every year in free agency, it's it's 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.200 you know, maybe the talent is a little better here 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.800 they are at different positions, and you know, some people 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.639 may have different opinions on how much talent there is 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.480 in the overall market. But what we found was a 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.239 lot of you know, there's and again when you look 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.760 at some of the deals that were done, um, there 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.320 was you know, there was a lot of there were 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:23.040 a lot of benchmark deals not just for um, you 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.880 know obviously at the quarterback position. Where are some good 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.400 deals that were done but but more so with offensive 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.440 line in other places. UM. And we felt at the 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.480 end of the day, it was just the general nature 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.880 of the market, UM, that it was a very competitive marketplace, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.080 and there a lot of people were getting deals that 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.439 were a little bit above you know, maybe what some 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.000 teams maybe would have anticipated, especially when compared to him 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.119 a year ago. UM. But I do think at the 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:47.679 end of the day, everyboy seems to speculate that the 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.320