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Speaker 1: or weight as it as other signings do. But there

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Speaker 1: are some still some good players out there, and then

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Speaker 1: there's potentially some players that can help us. So but

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Speaker 1: both of us went very well, and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens is is they go for it,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that. I think both of those players do

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Speaker 1: have the other visit schedule with other teams, so we'll

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Speaker 1: see how that unfolds over time. Here, Mike, in your mind,

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Speaker 1: is it too soon to begin evaluating what kind of

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Speaker 1: all season you're you're having to begin sort of grading

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Speaker 1: your moves or lack of moves. Well, I would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. I don't really see. We don't

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Speaker 1: really sit there and sort of great ourselves. Um, youven

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Speaker 1: kind of leave it up for you guys and everybody else. Um,

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Speaker 1: But I think what we focus more on, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: that help the team again, not just you know, because

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a balance you're trying to you're

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Speaker 1: trying to help yourself short term, but you're also trying

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Speaker 1: to have a bigger or longer term view that you don't, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, jeopardize something down the road. And I think

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Speaker 1: the one thing we we go when we go into

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Speaker 1: this process, um, you know, we're trying to you know,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody does the same thing. It's not unique

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Speaker 1: to us. But we're all trying to make decisions. Anybody

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Speaker 1: in the NFL that, um that you're a really trying

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Speaker 1: to be right. But again, if you're wrong, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether you overpay a player or whether you have to

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Speaker 1: cut a player in a year or two and you

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Speaker 1: take dead money or a cap hit, um, you know

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Speaker 1: it costs you another player and that other player, who

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Speaker 1: are that that that missed opportunity? Can you know? That's

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Speaker 1: what we're trying to make sure we we do the

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Speaker 1: best of or to do the best in terms of

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Speaker 1: our decisions. UM, So we don't really necessarily sit there

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Speaker 1: and kind of grade ourselves. Um, you know, we're trying

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Speaker 1: to make sure what we do is in the best

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Speaker 1: interests of you know, our organizations. And it's like everybody's

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Speaker 1: in the the NFL the same way, like short term and

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Speaker 1: long term