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Speaker 3: just brought up Mac Joe. I've heard that like ten

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Jill's Stadium, and uh boy, we had to come

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Speaker 1: in and like douse the room. It was on fire

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Speaker 1: after the catch twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, if you think he's going to be a super

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Speaker 1: If I if I had a.

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Speaker 4: Crystal ball, I can tell you that every everybody could

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Speaker 4: be a super Bowl quarterback? Then they would Who would

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Speaker 1: Anyway? It's dude, it's she must have had a good week.

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Speaker 1: It's Evan, myself and Matt and the booth and yes,

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Speaker 1: catch twenty two. We are following that. And if you

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Speaker 1: I thought it was very entertaining. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: I think it was a good conversation with some good information,

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Speaker 1: differing opinions. But I loved it. It was a really

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Speaker 4: So nice, Yeah, have conviction take the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll follow up with that conversation later in the show,

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Speaker 1: but we've got a lot to talk about. Obviously, it's

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Speaker 1: Jets weak. And like I said in the roundup, dudes, Snowby,

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Speaker 6: The Jets might turn it over seven at the Patriots time, right.

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Speaker 1: It's who knows what's going to happen in this game.

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Speaker 1: To dig out our cars. Yeah, we're having you know,

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Speaker 6: Sure, what's the four hour? I mean, Hardy, we're not

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Now, do you want me to wait till you get here?

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Speaker 6: not really an offensive coordinator search done in good faith.

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Speaker 6: It was more you know, lip service.

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Speaker 3: And as I sort of opined to the time, again,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's what Bill wanted to He wanted

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Speaker 6: Nothing. Nothing that was in there really felt out of

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Speaker 3: Know, stuff and stuff in fact, and you wonder.

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Speaker 1: Like, is this the first time on major issues when

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Speaker 3: I love its petty level.

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Speaker 9: I think the pettiness.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well I want to you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: Maybe I feel like what Bill.

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Speaker 1: I think it was, oh, you're not going to do

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Speaker 3: Like they go back and they just start teaching it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was illustrated in the story.

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Speaker 6: Would have thought that that would have helped him a

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Speaker 1: And even even you know, Bill O'Brien, everybody probably had

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Speaker 6: But but but I mean, would it be fair than

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Speaker 1: It was apathy. I think I think there was a

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Speaker 3: So the story. But what I'm saying is now he's

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Speaker 3: and now Robert's like, what's going on? What is all

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Speaker 3: this stuff? What does this mean?

445
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Speaker 1: What happened?

446
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,960
Speaker 3: And he's he's getting the answers from, you know, probably

447
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Speaker 3: the guys that are involved.

448
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was surprised Joe Judge kind of dodged any

449
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Speaker 6: any bad stuff too that I was kind of waiting

450
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Speaker 6: for that to come.

451
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Speaker 1: I'm like, where's the you know, the Joe Judge.

452
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Speaker 3: This one, this one didn't have as much meat to

453
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Speaker 3: it as the one last year, But I thought they

454
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Speaker 3: were both really good. I thought he I mean again,

455
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Speaker 3: I know that there's a lot of people that are

456
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Speaker 3: traditional and they don't enjoy a anything negative. But more

457
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Speaker 3: more importantly, when it's negative and it's tied to an

458
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Speaker 3: anonymous source, it tends to get ignored. Well, you know,

459
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Speaker 3: the guy didn't have enough guts to put his name

460
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Speaker 3: to it, Like, I don't look at it that way.

461
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Speaker 3: I take, I take the stuff, you know, every single

462
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Speaker 3: thing in that like fact verbatim. Maybe maybe not, but

463
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Speaker 3: what you have to do to go through. And this

464
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Speaker 3: is the reason why I like to have the name

465
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Speaker 3: to it, because now you can attach the name and say, oh,

466
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Speaker 3: well that's the way Alex looked at it. Alex, you

467
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Speaker 3: know she wanted it to be this way, so obviously

468
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Speaker 3: her angle is to accentuate this. That's the only thing

469
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Speaker 3: missing is you don't know.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I do interesting is you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stories that have unnamed sources, but usually

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Speaker 1: the writer doesn't write. They all talked on the you know,

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Speaker 1: agreement of anonymity fear.

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Speaker 7: Of Yeah, right, it's like do they need to under

475
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Speaker 7: the witness protection Yeah?

476
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Speaker 9: Saying that was.

477
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Speaker 1: Kind of weird, Like why he felt he had to

478
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Speaker 1: write that.

479
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Speaker 3: I thought that was weird.

480
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Speaker 1: Obviously you're unnamed sorts because you don't want people to

481
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Speaker 1: know you say it because but he felt he had to.

482
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Speaker 3: I thought that was weird too, And I'm going to

483
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Speaker 3: take it a step further and just like back to

484
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Speaker 3: the entirety of the twenty twenty three season, the only

485
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Speaker 3: storyline is that an indication that whoever's talking isn't sure

486
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Speaker 3: what Bill's yeah going to be right right? His status is.

487
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Speaker 6: Going to be Yeah, that's fair?

488
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Speaker 3: Or do you just look at Bill as one of

489
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Speaker 3: those guys I don't. I don't really care if he's

490
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Speaker 3: here or not. I don't want to burn that bridge.

491
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Speaker 1: Well, also, Bill has tentacles throughout the league.

492
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, whether he's here or not,

493
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Speaker 3: if I'm say Troy Brown, I don't want to say

494
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Speaker 3: anything and get him on my bad side.

495
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Speaker 1: Trent Brown two were a tough one for him.

496
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Speaker 3: With He's the only one that evidently didn't care.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right right now, and I don't know it's it

498
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Speaker 6: might be my.

499
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Speaker 3: Best call ever.

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Speaker 1: We joked.

501
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Speaker 6: I joke with Paul coming in, so you know all this.

502
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Speaker 6: I think we're both getting a little bit like they

503
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Speaker 6: haven't quit. They haven't quit, And I'm like, Brown's kind

504
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Speaker 6: of quit, Like the Sun proclaimed best player on offense.

505
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Speaker 1: He kind of He's kind of.

506
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Speaker 3: Quitclaim the best player on offense.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just him. So so that story's out there, and

508
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Speaker 1: again that's Boston Herald, Andrew Callahan, Doug Kyde, just a lot,

509
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: a lot of anonymous quotes, but just kind of a

510
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Speaker 1: look at the offensive dysfunction. And you know, as we

511
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Speaker 1: go into the last game of the season, I won't

512
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Speaker 1: be surprised if other stories leak out, especially Sunday morning,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, prior to the game.

514
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Speaker 7: I mean it started before Christmas with the Gerad story,

515
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Speaker 7: which to me clearly seems like it was a lot

516
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Speaker 7: of assistant offensive coaches were really squirmy right now, and

517
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Speaker 7: Girard addressed that stuff yesterday. So the timing of this

518
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Speaker 7: one's kind of funny today.

519
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Speaker 6: Seem a little shook. And then I I'm not a

520
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Speaker 6: big Instagram guy, but I happened to be on Instagram

521
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Speaker 6: and he posted like.

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Speaker 1: This, like reel of someone like a real.

523
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Speaker 6: Leader tells you the things that you need to do

524
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Speaker 6: to give you and know it was like this, I'm like,

525
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Speaker 6: whoa boy, This is very like easy to.

526
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Speaker 3: Draw, so it's very easy to talk about that a

527
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Speaker 3: little bit too, Like I thought that was a little

528
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Speaker 3: different answers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I thought it was a little rambling.

530
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, what he said made sense.

531
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Speaker 3: But I like that he took some accountability for it,

532
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Speaker 3: like like it seemed.

533
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Speaker 6: Like you really reflected upon it and took it to

534
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Speaker 6: I don't say art, but.

535
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Speaker 3: I'd rather have my leaders not necessarily.

536
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you started dressing anonymous stuff, then you

537
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Speaker 1: go down a rabbit hole, right, you.

538
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Speaker 6: Know, Well, I I don't.

539
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Speaker 3: I mean, I just there's is there something between we're

540
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Speaker 3: on to the jets and that two minute dial tribe?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

542
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Speaker 6: Right, No, that's that's probably That's what I did for response.

543
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Speaker 6: I just I don't know between And I just feel

544
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Speaker 6: like this article kind of just reframed things from a

545
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Speaker 6: different a little bit of a different perspective. It looks

546
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Speaker 6: like the same story that we've all kind of considered

547
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Speaker 6: and talked about. But I stand here right now completely

548
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Speaker 6: unsure of anything anything like.

549
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Speaker 1: Where's your gonna end up? Where's what's going to happen

550
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Speaker 1: with Bill?

551
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Speaker 6: I just I don't I have no clue right now

552
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 6: now if if somebody will be back, if nobody will

553
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 6: be back, I feel like it runs the gamut right now.

554
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 7: And I feel like a lot of defensive players are

555
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 7: super loyal to Drad.

556
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Speaker 9: I mean, there was a story that came out.

557
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Speaker 7: I forget who wrote it today, but I read in

558
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Speaker 7: the clips one of the players saying he won't be

559
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Speaker 7: back if Draw's not back here next year.

560
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Speaker 9: He wants it to work out, but Drod's his guy.

561
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Speaker 7: So it just speaks to the offense versus defense rift

562
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Speaker 7: we've kind of felt all year, but now it's was

563
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Speaker 7: it even defense versus offense? Or was it just like

564
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Speaker 7: the offense individually on an island.

565
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Speaker 1: Problem we talked about before the season, what would it

566
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Speaker 1: take for Bill Belichick to not be to not continue here?

567
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Speaker 1: And those words carefully because.

568
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, and you know a lot of the

569
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Speaker 3: things that have happened.

570
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Speaker 1: Less the record, and it'll be more what's going on

571
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Speaker 1: in the locker room? Is he losing? Is the message not?

572
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Speaker 3: Is there a division?

573
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Speaker 1: Is there a division? Is there squabbling? Is there? And

574
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Speaker 1: this is what this story is about. Yeah, squabbles. Yeah,

575
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Speaker 1: I wanted more out of Juju too.

576
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Speaker 6: I was looking for like some kind of nugget on Juju,

577
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Speaker 6: Like he started to walk into the like.

578
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Speaker 1: And it didn't work out immediately.

579
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Speaker 3: Like Yeah, it's kind of like the way I feel

580
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Speaker 3: about like comparing the two stories from last year to

581
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Speaker 3: this year, I think there was more like he introduced

582
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Speaker 3: a lot of topics and didn't have I'm sure he

583
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Speaker 3: didn't get it.

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Speaker 1: He didn't.

585
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he didn't leave it out. He

586
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Speaker 3: didn't get the level of detail from the sources that

587
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Speaker 3: I thought he did last year, Like like Clem yelling

588
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Speaker 3: at Mac right right right, It kind of stated as

589
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Speaker 3: a fact, And I just.

590
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Speaker 6: Think there's a superstory there about the just decision to

591
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Speaker 6: let Jakobe go and to swap them for Juju.

592
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Speaker 1: And why and did they what was there? Ill coron

593
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: wide receiver and the money was the same. It's because

594
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Speaker 1: he sided with the quarterback last year.

595
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Speaker 6: I mean, and that's what we've you know, that's what

596
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Speaker 6: we've kind of speculated or talked about. But I was

597
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Speaker 6: thinking we were going to get some kind of insight

598
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Speaker 6: into that.

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Speaker 3: And this is why when you know and listen doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean I'm right, might turn out the I'm one thousand

601
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: percent wrong. But people just keep on saying, well, I

602
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: know he can still coach. I know he could still coach.

603
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: That's coaching when you can't recognize what's best for the

604
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: team might not necessarily be best for you at that

605
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: particular moment. And it's you know, everybody just says it's

606
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: all x's and o's. Well, yeah, I know, there's nobody

607
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: that's better at x's and o's than Bill. But this

608
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: is part of coaching. It's not just personnel. It's I

609
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: think if you ask Bill Belichick who he thought was

610
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Speaker 3: a better player for his team before they made that move,

611
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Speaker 3: he would have said Jakobe Myers. Yeah, but yet he's

612
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Speaker 3: not here for other reasons. And I don't think that's

613
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Speaker 3: a singular example of that. I think there are other

614
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Speaker 3: examples like that that I think have become more prevalent

615
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Speaker 3: the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hip point O two.

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Speaker 6: Like at the end of the article, they do give

618
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Speaker 6: Bill like a little credit just in terms. I mean,

619
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Speaker 6: one of the source is saying, you know, every week,

620
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Speaker 6: he's standing up there telling us what we have to do,

621
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Speaker 6: that was the best, you know, and we can't do it,

622
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Speaker 6: and what.

623
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Speaker 3: We need to do and we just definitely don't do.

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Speaker 1: And I would love to know who said that, because

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Speaker 1: you know, I've heard that before. He tells you what

626
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna what's.

627
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Speaker 3: Gonna happen, that's a very common.

628
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Speaker 1: I would I would love to know what were those

629
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Speaker 1: things that he said we're going to happen that happened. Yeah,

630
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: well the ball, I know.

631
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Speaker 3: I think it's about how they're going to play you

632
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: in a certain situations. Well, and how we're going to

633
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: play them, because they're going to give us this look

634
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 3: and then they just go out and.

635
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Speaker 9: It was peppers in the locker room that went on

636
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 9: there just.

637
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Speaker 6: Uh you know, go to that O nine doc where

638
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 6: they lost to the Jets and they intercut it of

639
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 6: him being like, we can't let what was that Titan's

640
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 6: named Dustin Keller? Dustin I forget that, we can't let

641
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 6: the tight end at the scene and they cut it

642
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 6: with like tight end up the scene.

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Speaker 3: You know, I just knew it was like it's it

644
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: was like the nine to eleven that was just that's

645
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: your sweet spot, like Dustin Keller, I haven't thought of that.

646
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Was that a name?

647
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

648
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: That was tight End out of Purdue.

649
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Speaker 6: Uh wow, we found we found that like the collection

650
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Speaker 6: of seven games, Keller.

651
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: Look, that's they're all just losses. I haven't done right?

652
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: All right, Still isn't sound right?

653
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: We've got a hurry to find out he played like

654
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Speaker 3: ten years.

655
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Speaker 1: There's no buys this week.

656
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: No buys in nobody playing.

657
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's get to the listeners. Eight five to

658
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: five past five hundred is the a stick and hotline

659
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: web radio at pitches dot com is the email address.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Micah in Delaware. What's up Micah?

661
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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I've been listening to you guys since twenty fifteen. Well,

662
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 11: listen to every show. I don't call in very often,

663
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 11: but this show potentially being the last one where Bill

664
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Speaker 11: Belichick is the head coach, I felt like I needed

665
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Speaker 11: to get on the record and just say, with all

666
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Speaker 11: the success we've had over the past whatever twenty three years,

667
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Speaker 11: maybe less than the past three years, you know, I'd

668
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Speaker 11: be happy to watch Bill coach as long as he wants.

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Speaker 11: I don't care about the record. You know, we can

670
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Speaker 11: have a season like this every season. He could lean

671
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Speaker 11: into it, roll out on his Rascal scooter and create

672
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Speaker 11: a Navy offense. Let's be power, I right, you know,

673
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Speaker 11: every player for the whole game. And the only thing

674
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Speaker 11: I kind of hold against him at this point is

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Speaker 11: that he didn't extend Tom Brady that same courtesy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, no thanks for they called michaeh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Tom wanted to leave too. It's not

679
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: like Bill said you can't come back now, you just

680
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: can't leave it. Yeah, but uh, I think.

681
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tom wanted to leave, but I think

682
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Speaker 3: he wanted to leave because Bill didn't want him back.

683
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Speaker 6: Sure, I mean, I I appreciate the sentiment. It's just

684
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 6: it's hard. It would be hard for us to sit

685
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Speaker 6: here and take that point of view, and.

686
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Speaker 3: I just can't. I can't say, like, I can watch

687
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: this season every year and I'd be perfectly happy with that. Well,

688
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Speaker 3: the question is just to have him continued.

689
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Speaker 1: I think. I think, to Micah's point, if Tom Brady

690
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Speaker 1: was just not playing, well, would you be happy that?

691
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Speaker 1: And I got I got an email from somebody along

692
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Speaker 1: those same lines. They were comparing it to Ah and

693
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Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not going to hold up the

694
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Speaker 1: show looking for the email, but they compared it to

695
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: Red sticking with the Big Three too long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the right move.

697
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said that's what this team should have

698
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: done with Brady, right. Yeah.

699
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I don't think that anybody

700
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Speaker 3: would have been clamoring to stick with Brady if he

701
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Speaker 3: was playing like this, Like if Brady was playing like

702
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: mac Jones did this year, I don't think people would

703
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 3: have said, made me say they can't get rid of him.

704
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Speaker 3: They can't alle And obviously Brady would have retired, it

705
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: would have been a little bit of a different story.

706
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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the difference is, Yes, Brady had shown

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Speaker 3: sides of slowing down, but he still went twelve and four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's the email. It's Max and Santa Barbara.

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Speaker 1: You know I got married just south of Santa O.

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Speaker 1: Do you know? Max? Yeah? Probably not. He says, I

711
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: don't understand, especially Fred and Paul, how you could want

712
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: Bill out. Who's going to be a better replacement. I

713
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: guess whoever comes in will be done in two years

714
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and all the media will roast Craft for firing Bill.

715
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Speaker 1: I know it's a what have you done for me today? World?

716
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: But seriously, Bill should stay until he decides to retire.

717
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: The youngsters there probably would have ran or out of town.

718
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: Red was loyal to the real and original Big Three

719
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Speaker 1: until the end. Craft should look at that example. I

720
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Speaker 1: don't see anyone that can come into this market and

721
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Speaker 1: withstand the media beating they will get. Bill has hit

722
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Speaker 1: on plenty of good offensive players in his years, or

723
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Speaker 1: have we forgotten? And any quarterback from the University of

724
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Speaker 1: Spoiled Children should be avoided. Thanks for this show through

725
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Speaker 1: my two decades of listening.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think for me, if he could coach

727
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 6: the team in a bubble, I think every like you'd

728
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Speaker 6: have a sizeable amount of Patriots Nation being on board

729
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Speaker 6: of him being the coach. We've gotten plenty of calls

730
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Speaker 6: about just get a GM, but I think this article

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Speaker 6: illustrates how much that goes into what he does. It's

732
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Speaker 6: not just coaching, it's team building, and it's a toxic

733
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Speaker 6: environment right now and most you know, nearly every team

734
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Speaker 6: in professional sports with this kind of stuff going on,

735
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 6: it's the end, like this is this is it, this

736
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Speaker 6: is where they choose to turn it over.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

738
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Speaker 6: Like if he could coach in a bubble and not

739
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Speaker 6: have to worry about personnel and managing personalities and hiring

740
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 6: a staff and you know, constructing an offense and all

741
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 6: those different things that have caught up to him.

742
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Speaker 1: The mistakes they've compounded, and now he's.

743
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Speaker 6: Stuck with a team with no Pro bowlers, which I

744
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 6: hate saying because I don't really care about the Pro Bowl.

745
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 6: But I do think that that says.

746
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Speaker 1: If, and it's a big if if Callahan and Kai

747
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Speaker 1: are accurate, especially when it comes to the part about

748
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and building his staff. If that's accurate, it

749
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: really makes it tough to bring Bill back because if

750
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Speaker 1: you do, if Craft says, okay, we'll bring in your bag,

751
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Speaker 1: that means you have you also have to tell Bill Belichick.

752
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: You can tell O'Brien what to do. You know it's

753
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: not gonna be you can come back, but you have

754
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Speaker 1: to let Bill O'Brien do whatever he wants. That's that well,

755
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Speaker 1: and it's not and it's not just offense.

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Speaker 6: First, it's the front office versus the coaching staff, I mean,

757
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 6: and they're throwing barbs back and forth at each other.

758
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 6: So pretty much every single way that you can have dysfunction, if.

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Speaker 1: You bring Bill back, In other words, you're endorsing Bill Belichick,

760
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: meaning he he you know, he's back to ruling with

761
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: an iron fist and whatever he says goes, And so

762
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Speaker 1: all these people that are disgruntled now it's worse for them.

763
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Speaker 1: So either now Bill Belichick has to clean house and

764
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Speaker 1: start over in those areas or get them on board,

765
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Speaker 1: and how.

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Speaker 6: Does he do that, or let Bill O'Brien hire an

767
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Speaker 6: entirely new offensive staff.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean. But then that's him saying

769
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Speaker 1: that I was wrong to not let him do it

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think that there's anybody who believes that

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Speaker 6: Robert Kraft cajoling him into doing something is going to

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Speaker 6: work out favorably for anybody, right.

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Speaker 1: So again, it's a big if if the information in

775
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: the story is accurate. But that's what we're going on

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00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: right here, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just going on the performance. And I just

778
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: looked it up. The last year of the Big Three.

779
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Speaker 3: Now clearly their championship days were behind them, but the

780
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Speaker 3: Celtics went fifty one and thirty one the last year

781
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: the Big Three was together. That wasn't the question back, no, no, no,

782
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Speaker 3: But people wanted them to. They thought they should make

783
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 3: trades because they need to rebuild this team. They let

784
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Speaker 3: the Big Three go to the end. That's the point

785
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Speaker 3: of this guy. So they were fifty one and thirty one,

786
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Speaker 3: They won the division, they won the first round of

787
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. They lost in seven in the conference semifinals,

788
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: which for Celtics purposes is not great. But so there

789
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: is kind of apples to apples.

790
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Speaker 1: With the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody'd be looking to get rid of

792
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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick if the Patriots were losing in the division

793
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Speaker 3: round in overtime.

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Speaker 1: No, that's true.

795
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Speaker 3: The Patriots are like twelve games under five hundred over

796
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: the last four years.

797
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the problem with the Celtics back then people

798
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: were thinking obviously about the future, and it took them

799
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Speaker 1: a long time to get back after the three.

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Speaker 3: But my point is this guy is saying they let

801
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Speaker 3: Red did the right thing by letting the Big three,

802
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: and I agree, but the Big three was still playing

803
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Speaker 3: at a good level, not a championship level, but a

804
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: good level. This is not good, I know.

805
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: But Redhead always preached, like Bill does, a year too

806
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: early rather than a year too late.

807
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: And it wasn't a year too late.

808
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: No, but it was in terms of getting value back

809
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: to build for the three.

810
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: But they couldn't get value back, just like they couldn't

811
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Speaker 3: get value back for Tom Brady.

812
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: Well that wasn't the narrative back then.

813
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: But you're not going to get anything for thirty something

814
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: year old guys that are playing out the string.

815
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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what people were saying.

816
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: I know, and this is why I think Red was right.

817
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you why I think the emailer

818
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 3: is right for saying they the Celtics let the Big

819
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: Three play it out because it wasn't going to turn.

820
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: It wasn't like the second time around when you had

821
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: the second iteration of the Big Three and Paul Peers

822
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Speaker 3: and Kevin Garnett still had something to offer and you

823
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: got a good trade with Brooklyn. That was way different.

824
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: Like Bird was clearly like O done, which is why

825
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: he retired.

826
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Speaker 4: Gods Jason Tatum, Angela.

827
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Speaker 3: And that's the difference. Like if there was value there

828
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: then you could have an argument, but there really was none.

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Speaker 1: All right, has return?

830
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: Has return?

831
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: Has returned? All Right?

832
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: Evan the penultimate Evan is back. Well this is the

833
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: last one, actually not even I was thinking tomorrow I'm

834
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Speaker 4: gonna go.

835
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Speaker 1: To practice too, but ultimate was pretty good.

836
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: Though that's a word. I like, it's a good word.

837
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: This is the last time, huh, gonna cherish.

838
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 6: It just it will do a remix or maybe we'll

839
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 6: just revoke that song, give me a song again.

840
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: But that's fine.

841
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: It's okay, dude. You don't have to cry about it.

842
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 8: Uh.

843
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: Trent Brown was the only absence from Patriots practice today.

844
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: Myles Bryant returned. But you're missing a practice yesterday due

845
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 4: to illness. Trent Brown listed with an illness but hasn't

846
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: been a practice. Has been instagram living himself from a planet,

847
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: fitness somewhere or something like that. So I'm just gonna

848
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: maybe like l A l A fitness LA. I think

849
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Speaker 4: there's one with the hair.

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Speaker 10: Let me.

851
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: I got the picture.

852
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 9: It's the one I go to.

853
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: It's on the street Lifetime, lifetime, So there it is, there,

854
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: it is.

855
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 6: What is he doing?

856
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 10: So?

857
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 8: What like?

858
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 6: All right, like let's just like like let's play along.

859
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: So they don't want him here because he's sick, but

860
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 6: he's just going to go to a planet.

861
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: I know.

862
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying, let's just play along, but he's going

863
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 6: to go to a planet.

864
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Everybody.

865
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Trent Brown not not a Patriots practice stretching only,

866
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: so it didn't really see much that there is anything

867
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: to see at this point. But that's that's what we got.

868
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: Okay. And outdoors outdoors pads, no pat no pads, no pads,

869
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: so there won't be a padded practices now we're done.

870
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: We're done with padded practice. Yeah. And lower field, lower

871
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: field going to have smarl. Okay, let's go.

872
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: Any any change in the mood are the players?

873
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 6: Is there any scuttle but about Callahan?

874
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 10: Was he ye?

875
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 6: And Doug walking around?

876
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: You know, we've got big story. Was there any peacock

877
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: feathers to be seen?

878
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: I did talk to Doug briefly. Callahan was not there.

879
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: I think they probably switch off or something like.

880
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: That, probably doing the media rounds right right.

881
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: So there's also I guess another report from Josina Anderson

882
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: that there's NFC South teams plural that have been doing

883
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: their due diligence on Bill Belichick Atlanta.

884
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Speaker 1: And trying to figure out if if he's a good

885
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: coach or not. What due diligence is.

886
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm just telling is he really going to be available

887
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: and is he interested in coming to us?

888
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: Don't spoil the fun.

889
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: But that's the due diligence, right.

890
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, and I want to pull up

891
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 4: the tweets, and I know this isn't practice related, but

892
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: obviously that this is what we were talking about at practice.

893
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: So someone said that. She also reported somewhere in here

894
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: that the feeling recently is that it's a mutual between

895
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: the Patriots and Bill Belichick that would like to move on.

896
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 12: I don't know if that was or something else, but

897
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 12: I divorce you.

898
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's definitely some teams starting to get their

899
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: ducks in a row from maybe to maybe potentially make

900
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: a run at Bill if he is available.

901
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: And potentially you could throw New Orleans in there too,

902
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: but Atlanta and Carolina obvious. But Atlanta is definitely a

903
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: candidate to get rid of Arthur Smith, so like and

904
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: New Orleans.

905
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: So how long before Carolina does David throw a drink?

906
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 6: He's find three hundred thousand dollars for that. Yeah, it's uh,

907
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: would you rather see if if Bill was not here

908
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 6: next year? Would you rather see him not coaching or

909
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 6: would you rather see him.

910
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: In the league. Still, I'd rather see him not coaching

911
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: me too, enjoying life, come back for the Tom Brady

912
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: Day on June twelfth, go into the Pro Football Hall

913
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: of Fame, all of that.

914
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe you should just go to Tampa. I mean,

915
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 6: it's like where Patriots legends, you know, to go to retire, except.

916
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: If they win, they're not going to make a change

917
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: more than I know.

918
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted it that way, though.

919
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: I would like to see him not coach. I mean,

920
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: I think in a perfect world, all of Fred's things

921
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: happened too. I'm not I'm less concerned with that, but

922
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to see him coach.

923
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: But I can't.

924
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: I can't deny.

925
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 6: And this is probably goes back to my same attitude

926
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 6: I had with Brady that everyone hated me for.

927
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: It's like, I can't help.

928
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 6: But be a little bit interested to see what he

929
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 6: would do if he came into an organization and you know,

930
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 6: just top to bottom because of another team.

931
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: We'll be covering it on this show. We'll be talking about.

932
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh yeah, that's the thing too.

933
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 7: Like you said, I'd like to see him make joy

934
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 7: when he enjoy life, if not coaching, right, I don't know.

935
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 13: So.

936
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 4: Josina also reported now that this is breaking news but

937
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: that she's hearing that he's still very much motivated to

938
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: pass Don Chula and get the wins record. So retirement

939
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: I don't think is according to her at least, is

940
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: definitely not.

941
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: On either on the board. Yeah, I don't think he's

942
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: retiring either. Okay, Now I don't know if he's going

943
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: to have a job right away. I don't know what

944
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: the all the interest stuff. I'll trust her.

945
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: But the only reason why I brought up the retirement

946
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: because we were talking about this before practice, and what

947
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: if his options on the table are all complete rebuilt

948
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: right like it's Carolina Washington. I don't know if I

949
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: would count the Chargers as a complete rebuilt because they

950
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: have the quarterback, but like projects that are going to

951
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: take two three years quarterback, right, and he's seventy two

952
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: years old, like, and he's just looking at it from

953
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 4: that standpoint of, Hey, how quickly can I really pass

954
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 4: Shula with one of these teams and be I'm gonna

955
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: be seventy six years old before this team is ready

956
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: to contend.

957
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 3: Atlanta is a team that I think he probably feels

958
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: like he could win with right away. Yeah, they do

959
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: not have the answer at quarterback. They have a pretty

960
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: good roster. Yeah, now I know that's you know, yeah,

961
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: but oh, nothing like you know, burying the lead. But

962
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: he probably feels I can get next year's version, as

963
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: I said yesterday, of Baker Mayfield and they can win.

964
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 6: It's just an interesting kind of ab study, you know,

965
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 6: of just like for this, how does he go about

966
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 6: replacing the quarterback on another team? Does it correspond to

967
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 6: what we kind of believed of him just needing a

968
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 6: guy who doesn't make turnovers?

969
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: Like you know, is that what he pursues again or

970
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: is it?

971
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 6: Or maybe he learns from some of the mistakes that

972
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 6: have happened over the last couple of years and he

973
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 6: takes a different route.

974
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, those things are interesting. It's gonna be fascinating. Forty

975
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: eight hours after the game, oh boy.

976
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why we should all just sleep here because

977
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 6: of the snow.

978
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: What's the top call situation?

979
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: Tuesday? Tuesday night five, you're going to play top golf?

980
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: We got party. Thanks for inviting me.

981
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Oh, it's actually for Mike's brother.

982
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 6: It's for my brother in law who wanted nothing more.

983
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: He saw he's out.

984
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: He wanted nothing.

985
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 6: Cameo, Yeah, they want he wanted nothing more than a

986
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 6: cameo from Hardy for our family secret Sanna.

987
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

988
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 9: I didn't see the video, but he told me the story.

989
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 6: Oh, and I have a video of my brother in

990
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 6: law opening So Hardy was like, well, why don't we

991
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 6: just go to top Golf my brother in law Golf's

992
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 6: and so I had the video of course, o'hardy, but

993
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 6: then I took a video of my brother in law

994
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 6: opening it and like, you've never seen anyone more excited,

995
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 6: And like when.

996
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 12: He heard Brillo's gonna be there too, let's go.

997
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: He's from Southie, Like yeah, he was so excited.

998
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: They love you, not like Hardy. You should have seen

999
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: it was like Brady gave him the cameo when he

1000
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: found out.

1001
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 7: It's like a thirteen year old open like Taylor Swift

1002
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 7: tickets under the tree.

1003
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: Wow cameos. You know that'd be funny.

1004
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 6: You should do break Ivan bring up.

1005
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: I think maybe might put this on the airway. Somebody

1006
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: will help me. Jess is a huge Bruins fan, as

1007
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: all of you probably have known. I know she she's

1008
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: a huge huge Ask fan. And should I've been wanting

1009
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 4: this pretty on her birthday, they get a cameo from

1010
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: TUCA for like four years since we started dating, being

1011
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: like happy bird, Can you just sign up and do it?

1012
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 14: Like?

1013
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if he does it, I don't know

1014
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: if he doesn't.

1015
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 9: Feel like he wouldn't be a guy in mind for Sunday.

1016
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: We'll talk to Hardy about it, because I know fred

1017
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: Fred Toucher is pretty pretty close with Tuca.

1018
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Big Big Jess isn't listening. You might spoil it.

1019
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: Probably not, That's why I said it.

1020
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Okay, John's in South Beach. Hey John, We're jealous.

1021
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 15: Everyone.

1022
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: This is Johnny South.

1023
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 15: This is this is In fact, I was going to

1024
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 15: call in on UH for the Christmas game, but I

1025
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 15: literally fell asleep with phone.

1026
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: In my hands, so did I only I was on air.

1027
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 15: I wasn't gonna call in on this talk wroll show.

1028
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 15: This is really quick, UH pop golf with Peepee the

1029
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 15: Duce and somebody else and Hardy definitely an auction item

1030
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 15: at a future Patriots.

1031
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 9: Patriots.

1032
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: Well, we could even invite Alexa Pano, who's the LPGA

1033
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: golfer that we sponsored.

1034
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: And now I'm less interested.

1035
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 9: Go ahead, smoked by a nineteen year old.

1036
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: That's cute.

1037
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: You hit it to the like he makes you look

1038
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: bad enough, because Hardy's pretty good, So he makes you

1039
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: look bad enough a professional.

1040
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, be interesting watching.

1041
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel like Grady, I'd split my pants.

1042
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 11: It's good auction item I.

1043
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 15: So I would estimate the Patriots need two tackles, a quarterback,

1044
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 15: at least one edge rusher and some cornerback death and

1045
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 15: at least one wide receivers. So what I'm about to

1046
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 15: bring up is kind of not super relevant in that context,

1047
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 15: but I'll bring it up anyway. I would personally be

1048
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 15: okay with keeping Hunter Henry and Farrell Brown in drafting

1049
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 15: his tight ends. What do you guys think about that circumstance?

1050
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be.

1051
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 16: Too Yeah, I think that it's not a lot out

1052
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 16: there one or both as like a bridge to whoever

1053
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 16: they draft, because tight end through the draft hardly ever

1054
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 16: produces as a rookie like that.

1055
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: That's a really difficult position to come in and produce

1056
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 4: as a rookie.

1057
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1058
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: The Matt Laportos are kind of those guys are outliers typically, Sam, Yeah,

1059
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: I mean Sam, Why did I say Matt? I don't know.

1060
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean Brown, fan of that guy, great, you know,

1061
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Farrell Brown, He's proven to be a good backup tight end.

1062
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 6: Would you say about kream Bay I really like or

1063
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 6: Crafty he had a really good I mean maybe I'm

1064
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 6: just judging off the other You see the game, you

1065
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 6: guys probably didn't.

1066
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: Well, Evan did, but you guys probably didn't watch the

1067
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 3: game because evidently you don't.

1068
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 6: Well, Paul I saw, we did see him in person

1069
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 6: this summer.

1070
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 17: That was.

1071
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 6: I mean that just going off of that was. I mean,

1072
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 6: they're both been sporadic, but they're they're good players. I mean,

1073
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 6: you'd love to have that. I thought they were going

1074
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 6: to do it last year the Patriots they should have got.

1075
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 4: Draft was so that one. I really thought like, if

1076
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: they're going to take a tight end this draft, it's

1077
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: going to be Tucker craft. He was recruited by Alabama

1078
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: when Bill O'Brien was at Alabama on an nil deal

1079
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: to go from South Dakota State right South Dakota State

1080
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: and to to Alabama and passed it down, turned it down,

1081
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 4: But there was clearly already admiration from Bill O'Brien's side

1082
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: for the type of player.

1083
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 10: That he was.

1084
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: And now after reading Callahan's story, we know Bill O'Brien

1085
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: had no saying anything.

1086
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, So that that kind of that one. I

1087
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: thought for sure that if they were going to take

1088
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: one of the tight ends, which to Douce his point,

1089
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: they should have done this last year. And you know

1090
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: that that was a really really deep tight end class.

1091
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: It was a really good one on Day two in

1092
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: early day three as well, and they they passed on.

1093
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 6: They took Jayden Reed too, who is a guy I loved.

1094
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 6: I mean, he's doing really well. I think I saw

1095
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 6: too the Ravens. Gosh, I wish I had the tweet,

1096
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 6: but it was something like, I think they drafted six

1097
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 6: Pro Bowlers.

1098
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: They've drafted six and that like, to me, it was

1099
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: just there.

1100
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: It is like, that's you know, that's why I like,

1101
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: you know, we've been fixated on the coach situation and

1102
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: not really talked about the GM stuff as much. And

1103
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot of talk about Adam

1104
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: Peters and I totally get it and understand why. That's

1105
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Speaker 3: where I think they need to go is go to

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Speaker 3: a Baltimore, go to a Philly, go to a San Francis,

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Speaker 3: go to one of the teams that you feel like

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Speaker 3: has done a really good job of building a roster

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Speaker 3: with homegrown players, and is that the guy and I

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Speaker 3: can't think of his name now, it's Joe Hertzig or

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00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: something like that from Baltimore. He's like an assistant GM

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Speaker 3: SO and a lot of people have said that he's

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Speaker 3: going to be a you know, a hot commodity in

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Speaker 3: this hiring cycle, I would find one of these guys

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Speaker 3: that has a track record of being able to build

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Speaker 3: through the drafts, comes from a place that does. That's

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. My guy Burganzi from Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: He's from Everett.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that I'm a little I'm a little biased,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just saying like if he wanted, But also

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Speaker 3: I also know the family a little bit, so it's

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Speaker 3: not exactly like I'm unbiased. I went to high school

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Speaker 3: with his uncle. Okay, people know that, I've said it

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Speaker 3: on the air.

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Speaker 4: I want to come here.

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Speaker 1: Ryan's in Colorado. What's up, Ryan?

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Speaker 13: Yes, Hey, guys, I was just calling real quick to

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Speaker 13: see about what you thought on the Patriots trying to

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Speaker 13: trade Bill Belichick while the Rooney rules in place, doesn't

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Speaker 13: that seem like kind of impossible nowadays to do that.

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Speaker 11: I'll take it off here thinks good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it is. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit different. I think, yeah, you know, i'd have

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Speaker 3: to go back and look at the details of what

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Speaker 3: Denver just did you know, did they have to you know,

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Speaker 3: interview people before they made that move? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I guess all these things are yeah in play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Patty's an what's up, Patty?

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Speaker 18: What's up?

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Speaker 15: Guys?

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Speaker 8: That last color just kind of sole my question.

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Speaker 1: But they're not trading Bill, so it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: The news breaking news.

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Speaker 19: I know that Belichick said that he wanted to leave

1145
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 19: this team at a good spot. And what's what's all

1146
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 19: these reports coming out? I mean, where where do you

1147
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 19: think this team stands if he's gone? I know, I

1148
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 19: know we're gonna have to like come through all the

1149
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 19: all potential coaches and and move on from Bill. But

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Speaker 19: I mean, to me, it seems like he's kind of

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Speaker 19: leaving this and exile.

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Speaker 1: You know. Let's let's look at you know, a long

1153
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: time ago, and it's it's a good topic, Patty. Let's

1154
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: look at the last time the Patriots changed coach Pete

1155
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: Carroll to Bill Belichick. Are the Patriots in a better

1156
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Speaker 1: but now two thousand and four than they were two

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Speaker 1: thousand when twenty.

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Speaker 4: Four, I think they're much worse spot because that I

1159
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Speaker 4: agree that Tea had well, that team also had I

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Speaker 4: mean than that, Yeah, I mean I was like eight.

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Speaker 4: But I'm trying to.

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Speaker 3: McInnis law Johnson.

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Speaker 4: Ken because that was like the whole thing, right, was

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Speaker 4: that a lot of the players in the one team

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Speaker 4: were actually Parcels players.

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Speaker 1: To a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That defense was great that year. We all remember it.

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00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: That defense was largely drafted by Parcels, right, So they

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Speaker 3: don't have been tierry.

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Speaker 4: I will say, though, like you know, writing Southern first

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Speaker 4: player for tomorrow on this their the Patriots defense now

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Speaker 4: has a lot is a lot, has a lot of

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Speaker 4: pieces like they do, and they they still play really

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Speaker 4: good defense and not I would say like modern defense.

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Speaker 4: Like I think that that's one thing that they have

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00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 4: innovated and they have evolved. You know, Duson and I

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Speaker 4: have been looking at the next gen the dime package

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Speaker 4: for all season long. You know there they play a

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Speaker 4: lot of lighter personnel, a lot more now than they

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Speaker 4: might have done five years ago when they had high

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00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: Tower and you know Bentley and Collins and all those

1182
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Speaker 4: guys playing a ton of snaps. They they've gotten lighter,

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Speaker 4: they've gotten faster. They they are up on the schemes

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Speaker 4: and nexs and O's part of it too. So it's

1185
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Speaker 4: not that defense. But I think that's the defensive side

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Speaker 4: of the ball now, I don't think is broken by

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Speaker 4: any means. Like I think that they have their building

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Speaker 4: towards something on that side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and you know, offense wasn't great in

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Speaker 1: two thousand, but they did have Bledsoe. They had Troy Brown,

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Speaker 1: they had Kevin Fuck you know, they had a decent line,

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Speaker 1: you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, and if you really want to take it out,

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00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: they had Terry Glenn still too.

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Speaker 1: That was before.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and one was the year right he went

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Speaker 3: a wall, right, So they had more talent. But now

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Speaker 3: they also had a tough cap situation in an era

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Speaker 3: before people make fun of me, in an era where

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Speaker 3: the cap mattered. It was much different then, and they

1201
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Speaker 3: had some cap issues with like remember Roucie and Lane.

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Speaker 3: Ted Johnson was pretty high paid, highly paid, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: financially there was some constraints. And I think that's what

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Speaker 3: Bill immediately did, was he sort of stripped the roster

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Speaker 3: down a little bit, but they had much more talent.

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Speaker 3: Bruce Armstrong was on that team. I think Ben Coates

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Speaker 3: was on that team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so they were.

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Speaker 3: He might have let go of Ben Coates. That might

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Speaker 3: have been the year he let Ben Coates.

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Speaker 1: So I would say that they were in a better

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Speaker 1: spot in two thousand than they are they will be

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Yeah, he went to Baltimore and one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might have been. Yeah, so scratch Ben Coats.

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Speaker 3: But I know Bruce came back for one more year. Now.

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Speaker 3: They weren't real happy with him that year. I do

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Speaker 3: remember talking to.

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Speaker 1: People fat people's too fat.

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Speaker 3: They didn't felt like they didn't feel like he was.

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Speaker 3: They brought him back as sort of one of those guys,

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Speaker 3: you know, like we need a veteran presence, and he

1222
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Speaker 3: didn't really fill that role very well.

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Speaker 4: I guess Penn Coates is one patriot from the past

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Speaker 4: that I wish that I like had more of a

1225
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: memory of watching him watch like obviously John Hannah, like

1226
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Speaker 4: those guys like are way past.

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Speaker 1: He was gronky.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Coats was very good.

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Speaker 4: Like I remember him like like vaguely, but not enough

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Speaker 4: to like tell you what he was great at or

1231
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Speaker 4: he was and.

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Speaker 1: He was the security blanket for Bledsoe.

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Speaker 3: But he made big plays to run after catch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, his probably slowed down a little bit

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Speaker 1: and they started calling him for opish. Then he went

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Speaker 1: over to the Ravens for a little bit. Didn't too

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Speaker 1: much there.

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Speaker 6: Just real quick, we saw Lawrence guy, Matthew Slater and

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Speaker 6: David Andrews at the podium today and I couldn't help

1240
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Speaker 6: but be like, is this it for these three guys?

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Speaker 4: Like, I mean, Matthew Slater was on the radio the

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Speaker 4: other day and basically said it without saying yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he was saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah but bait. I can't remember the exact quote. I'll

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Speaker 4: get it in a second, but it was.

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Speaker 17: It was.

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Speaker 4: You might as well have just said I'm retiring after.

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Speaker 1: This game, all right, We'll let Pauly uh, we'll be

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Speaker 21: And we are back twenty twenty four, the first edition

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Speaker 21: of the U Halftime Show, joined by Faith. Let's go

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Speaker 21: and let's start with some trivia like we always do, right,

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Speaker 21: So we got question one to Mario Douglas now holds

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Speaker 21: the record for the most receptions and receiving yards by

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Speaker 21: Patriots rookie receiver under Bill Belichick with blank receptions in

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Speaker 21: five hundred and forty eight yards.

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Speaker 1: All right, so how many receptions is yeah? Question two?

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Speaker 21: If the Patriots win this weekend against the Jets, how

1282
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 21: many wins in a row? Will it be a lot?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? There you go.

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Speaker 21: And question three, the Patriots blank overall victories over the

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Speaker 21: Jets are the second most over any single opponent. How

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Speaker 21: many victories?

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Speaker 17: Is this?

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Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 21: So send those answers in the webrado Patriots dot com. Matt,

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Speaker 21: do we even have any T shirts left? I'm sure

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Speaker 21: there are, so Okay, Well you're gonna get something, so

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Speaker 21: send your answers in. But guys, it is playoffs season almost.

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Speaker 21: We got one more week and usually these week eighteen

1294
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Speaker 21: games are fun, you know, like the Pats and Chests

1295
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 21: don't have anything to play for, so we're gonna see

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Speaker 21: hopefully some trip plays players.

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Speaker 1: Players are playing for Jobs's.

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Speaker 21: What we're hearing for.

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Speaker 10: Coaches are coaching for jobs. Players are playing for jobs exactly.

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Speaker 21: But we're gonna we're gonna talk about some NFL playoff

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Speaker 21: matchups and potential scenarios. So let me rip through what

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Speaker 21: if things stay as they are, if the playoff start today,

1303
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 21: here's what it is, so wild card or sorry. With

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Speaker 21: the week one bye for playoffs, we got the Ravens

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Speaker 21: all right, well deserved Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think you should.

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Speaker 21: Be the MVP. I think mccaffe should be the MVP.

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Speaker 21: But that's a different conversation. Quite so for the super

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Speaker 21: wild card weekend, we got Browns versus the Jags, all right,

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Speaker 21: that's the five and four seed, Bills versus the Chiefs,

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Speaker 21: that's the six and three. That'd be a good game.

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Speaker 21: And Colt Dolphins all right. That's for the AFC NFC

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Speaker 21: forty nine ers with the week one by Eagles at

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Speaker 21: Bucks for the fifth and the fourth with the Eagles

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Speaker 21: being the fifth seed, ye Rams at the Lions, and

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Speaker 21: that's the six and three, and then we got the

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Speaker 21: Packers at the Cowboys. All right, So faith, what are

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Speaker 21: some potential scenarios this weekend? Who's getting knocked out if

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Speaker 21: things go all right?

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Speaker 10: So the biggest matchup is Texans Colts because that is

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Speaker 10: literally win and in if you lose, your going home.

1322
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 10: It's basically an early round of the playoffs for both

1323
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 10: of those teams. And now that we've got c J.

1324
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Speaker 10: Stroud actually healthy back playing. I think the Colts certain

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 10: I think Minshew and the Colts have quite the task

1326
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 10: ahead before they can just lock into the playoffs.

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Speaker 21: The taxes with Tank Dell, Yeah it was scary. Yes,

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00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 21: that's a separate issue too. Why you're sending your number

1329
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 21: one receiver as a full back on the play.

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Speaker 1: That's how we got hurt.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, side note, But yeah, it's literally, you know, a

1332
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Speaker 10: matter of win and in. I always get confused when

1333
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 10: it's like, all right, well if you lose, but so

1334
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 10: and so wins and someone beats somebody and someone else

1335
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 10: beats another team, then you might have a chance. But

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00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 10: as simple as it is, if they win, they're in.

1337
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 10: And then of course you've got Pittsburgh. They have a

1338
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 10: lot of scenarios that could possibly happen. They're like ties

1339
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 10: could be included in it, but they could still get

1340
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 10: into which is crazy because I feel like they've struggled

1341
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 10: all season really just had a hard time at the

1342
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 10: quarterback position. But they could win it in which is crazy.

1343
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Speaker 21: So then another crazy one and this is the Dolphins

1344
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 21: kind of did this to themselves. Is yeah, the Bills

1345
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 21: versus Dolphins that's for the two seed, right, yeah, two seed,

1346
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 21: And I mean if Buffalo, Buffalo has been hot recently,

1347
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 21: them getting home field advantage for the first couple of rounds,

1348
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 21: first couple of games is scary.

1349
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 10: Well, you know, if they win, you know, they obviously

1350
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 10: clinched the AFC East. Yeah, but if they lose, they

1351
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 10: could not make the playoffs, which which is like.

1352
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 21: I would I would love that, Sorry, I would, I

1353
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 21: would love that. All right, what's some NFC stuff we

1354
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 21: got going on?

1355
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 10: All right, some NFC stuff. We've got Saints Falcons, which

1356
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 10: is interesting because right now there's two teams sitting at

1357
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 10: eight and eight, which is the Bucks and the Saints.

1358
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 10: That situation is interesting because you know, honestly, up until

1359
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 10: New Year's Eve, the Saints had the upper hand in that,

1360
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 10: but then they lost.

1361
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Speaker 3: To the Bucks.

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Speaker 10: So now it's split between the two of them. They're

1363
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 10: both eight and eight. The Saints are playing the Falcons,

1364
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 10: which technically speaking they should win, but who knows any

1365
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 10: given Sunday, right, and then you've got the Bucks playing

1366
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 10: the Panthers, which again the Bucks should win, but I

1367
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 10: don't know so, and.

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Speaker 21: Then you also got throwing draft position for all of

1369
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 21: this too, yea, which is crazy fun. Oh no, So

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Speaker 21: let's let's let's before we go in, let's say who

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00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 21: do not want to see get in aside from the Bills,

1372
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Speaker 21: because like we nobody want to see the Bills get in,

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00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 21: Like like, for example, I don't want the Falcons to

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00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 21: get in there, like if they win, they clinched the

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00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 21: NFC South with the win plus the Tampa lost, but

1376
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 21: like I don't want to see Desmond Ritter get stanked

1377
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 21: like I've seen.

1378
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Speaker 1: That all year.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, no, Falcons, I don't want in. It's tough

1380
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 10: with It's tough with the with the Jags too, like

1381
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 10: obviously they've pulled things together here toward the end, like

1382
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 10: they had a rough patch for a while. But I

1383
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 10: don't know, nine and seven, I don't really see them

1384
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 10: putting up that good of a fight squeezing in. I

1385
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 10: mean that the same record as the Falcons, and like

1386
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 10: Trevor Lawrence has been injured, he's been pushing through it.

1387
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Speaker 10: I don't know if that's going to be the best.

1388
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 21: So so before we wrap up, I guess we'll do

1389
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Speaker 21: Super Bowl picks a different time. Let's wait for the

1390
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 21: playoffs for this, Okay, for this one. Let's say, pick

1391
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Speaker 21: pick any team that you want to make a run,

1392
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 21: like an under underdog run or like a dream, a

1393
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 21: dream super Bowl matchup.

1394
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 10: I mean, I feel like a dream. And I think

1395
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 10: we were talking about this earlier was Lions Browns Could

1396
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 10: you imagine?

1397
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: In Vegas? Could you like?

1398
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 21: And it's also the Browns with Flacco just.

1399
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Speaker 6: The o, which is hilarious.

1400
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 21: He's been he's been chucking the rock. So I yeah,

1401
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 21: I want the I want the lines.

1402
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 10: But technically speaking, I've heard a lot of talk about

1403
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 10: the whole like super Bowl colors and the logos being

1404
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 10: the match up.

1405
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: The script.

1406
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 10: So I think it's gonna be forty nine ers, right,

1407
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 10: purple and red.

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01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 21: We want that.

1409
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: I've seen that already. I don't want that. I don't

1410
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: want that.

1411
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 6: I mean, I want Lamar to get it rid.

1412
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Speaker 21: But I think the Lions their time.

1413
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 10: So wait question for you, how early do you think

1414
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 10: the Cowboys are out of the playoffs?

1415
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: Where are they are right now? Their home?

1416
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 10: But if they lose, don't they I'm not sure exactly

1417
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 10: where their home field advantage.

1418
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: I think I think it depends.

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01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 21: I think it really depends if they get home field advantage,

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01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 21: if they get field for the first round, then they'll they'll.

1421
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 10: Lose in the whenever they're away, I think, yeah.

1422
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 21: Yeah, But that being said, if they somehow are away

1423
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 21: for the first round, that might.

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Speaker 4: Be the We'll wait for Steven and yeah, he's gonna

1425
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: be so exciting, but.

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01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 21: Faith, thank you, we're gonna we're gonna keep running this

1427
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 21: throughout the off season. So I don't know if anybody

1428
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 21: rode in the mat, but if they do, Matt, let

1429
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 21: me know what they want to talk about. And let's

1430
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 21: get back to the show.

1431
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 22: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, replacements

1432
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 22: were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1433
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 22: everybody could focus on the prof opening night FedEx where

1434
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 22: now it's next for residential delivery.

1435
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: Only and now great moments in.

1436
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: History.

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01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: My point was like Alex is just saying that you

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01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: can't You couldn't imagine to an eight and either could have.

1439
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: That's I couldn't have either, because I thought that at

1440
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 4: the very worst, they would just be.

1441
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: To think I'm really I am negative and I don't

1442
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: ever think of that.

1443
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think you don't hurt that.

1444
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 4: But but you said seven wins was their ceiling, right, Yeah,

1445
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 4: And I don't necessarily disagree with that. They're not going

1446
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: to get to seven wins.

1447
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 14: But when if everything fell into in other words, if

1448
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 14: they stayed healthy, everything fell in place. But but everybody

1449
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 14: was perfect close, the other teams got hurt. You didn't like,

1450
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 14: maybe you could win seven games. That's how I felt

1451
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 14: about this team.

1452
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't, but I don't necessarily disagree with that. If

1453
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 4: they're two and eight, Paul, like there, I thought the

1454
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 4: win four games, that's going to be a lot.

1455
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 9: I didn't think the offense could get worse than.

1456
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: I didn't think that I would. I would, That's the

1457
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: whole side on that. I didn't think the offense could

1458
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 3: be worse.

1459
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: Than it was.

1460
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 6: And my question is just I think we all kind

1461
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 6: of agreed that, like six, I feel like we said

1462
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 6: a lot.

1463
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: Six six wins.

1464
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 6: Feels like the floor for this team. Like he's too

1465
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 6: good a coach to not get them six wins. Why

1466
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 6: aren't we the six wins this year?

1467
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 17: You know?

1468
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have said, it's like, see I would.

1469
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: I know you think I'm probably lying, but I'm not

1470
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: either for it because I think there's some teams that

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 3: they could be just like the last couple of games

1472
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: they played, they could have won.

1473
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 4: That would be a big news.

1474
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 10: Dake.

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: That's another great moment from.

1476
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,479
Speaker 1: All right back here? What's that? That music usually says

1477
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: that there's something coming? No, I missed it?

1478
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 3: What yeah? He did? Was it good?

1479
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: Was it funny?

1480
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: I didn't listen, but he did tell us that it

1481
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: was going on?

1482
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: All right, what happened to?

1483
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 4: He's embarrassed to eat it on camera.

1484
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: He wants only Paul again.

1485
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: I get that, all right? So continuing our discussion, eight

1486
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: five five patch five hundred is the ag.

1487
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 4: You just throw out the last bite like that? What's

1488
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 4: wrong with you?

1489
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: Web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address.

1490
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna do picks a little later, so we gotta hurry.

1491
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: But people are emailing and people are calling and they

1492
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: want to be involved. This is a this is heady

1493
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 1: times for the Patriots. I mean, you know what going

1494
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: on here?

1495
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 6: I mean, what could happen Tuesday Show? Between now and

1496
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 6: Tuesday show, A lot.

1497
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: Everything happened or nothing.

1498
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 7: Our lives could be either drastically different on Monday or

1499
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 7: the absolute same.

1500
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: Well, I was like, who my life isn't drastically different

1501
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever Patriots are work, it'll be drastically Well

1502
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe you're right, you're not wrong, Bill Belichick is. It's

1503
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: Robert Craft has announced that Bill Belichick is returning. His

1504
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: first action is to blow up the content of there

1505
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: you go.

1506
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 6: He's gonna he's gonna take over hosting duties of.

1507
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 4: PATRIOTSKWA than I thought, what was that thing back in

1508
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 4: the day when they thought that, Like, like I for

1509
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 4: a second there, I was like, Fred, people are gonna

1510
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: think that you're like reporting something right now over there?

1511
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 4: And then.

1512
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: We had trivia during the halftime show. And here are

1513
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: the questions, Paul. The Mario Douglas now holds the record

1514
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: for the most receptions and receiving yards by a rookie

1515
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: receiver under Bill Belichick. How many receptions does he have?

1516
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: That's correct?

1517
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 4: Sorry, I mean, like that's not fair.

1518
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: Bryan, look at this. Brian Bailett's is the winner. Paul,

1519
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: you can't answer this. But who had the record for

1520
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: rookie receptions as a Patriot prior.

1521
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: Wide receiver or wide receiver Aaron Dobson.

1522
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 6: Patriots are under under belichicker over, can I mistaken?

1523
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: You're out?

1524
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 9: You're out on you guess one who who?

1525
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 10: I know?

1526
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 6: You know it Belichicker.

1527
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: Just in general, it was not under Bill Belichick.

1528
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 3: Oh oh, in jail a rookie record for receptions, not

1529
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: under Bellichi, not.

1530
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: Under Bell anyone in Patriots franchise.

1531
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: Then I don't necessarily know the Terry Glenn.

1532
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: Terry Glenn is correct.

1533
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: The one under Belichick is Dion Branch.

1534
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking of.

1535
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: Branch.

1536
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 4: Dobson had the yards record before tomorrow.

1537
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: If the Patriots win this weekend, how many wins in

1538
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: a row will it be against the Jets? Sixteen sixteen, sixteenth.

1539
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: Colin Mayo got that. And finally, the Patriots overall victories

1540
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: against the Jets are the second most over any single opponent.

1541
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: How many wins do they have over the Jets?

1542
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty seven seventy two.

1543
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: Paul's close. Anyone to want to price prices right that eighty.

1544
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 6: Three, one eighty two.

1545
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: No, seventy four. Tyler and Houston got that only two off,

1546
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, you were close.

1547
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 6: I don't like the one the price. I don't like

1548
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 6: the ones you can just p raf. You know, you

1549
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 6: just look at up a prof Football reference and then

1550
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 6: you well.

1551
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: The Patriots have been around for how many years sixty

1552
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: five at this point, sixty sixty four, right, and so

1553
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: you figure one a year that's gets to the sixty

1554
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: four and then some years they got to So you know,

1555
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: did the math that seems low? Then for the Jets,

1556
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: Oh maybe you know, well a lot of ye they

1557
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: swept the Jets.

1558
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: Probably we're pretty good against the Patriots, like in thet.

1559
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: I gotcha all right, back to the calls on the

1560
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: Ace ticket hut line. We can go to Dan in

1561
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: New Jersey. What's up Dan?

1562
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1563
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 18: Hi everyone. I'm hoping I can get used take on

1564
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 18: something I saw on on Sports Fi Mike this morning.

1565
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 18: So Evan Devin Cohen said his solutions is potential power

1566
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 18: sharing arrangement where Bill you know, keeps the coaching rains,

1567
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 18: but I guess maybe relinquishes some of the GM duties.

1568
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 18: And he brought up three names from from the past.

1569
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 18: Some of these guys maybe not be available because they're

1570
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 18: in a contract or maybe the game has passed them by,

1571
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 18: but the names were Scott Pioli and uh Tom Demetrov,

1572
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 18: And I just wondered, if you know of the three,

1573
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 18: are there any of them that you could be working

1574
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 18: for and specifically you know, being able to develop a

1575
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 18: high powered offense and also to be able to kind

1576
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 18: of challenge Bill over personnel to Well, that's you.

1577
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: Know, all three of them have history with Bill. Yeah.

1578
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: The question is if they come in, would they have

1579
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: equal power with Bill? Would Bill acquiesced to them? Sometimes?

1580
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1581
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 4: Well, Nick Cassari is not going anywhere. No, he's building Houston. Right,

1582
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 4: that one's off the tables.

1583
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: But the theory here was the GM would be above Bill, right, Yeah.

1584
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 4: Scott Pioli hasn't been in it in ten years?

1585
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 10: Right?

1586
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: Thanks?

1587
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 4: Dan Thomas Dimitrov isn't.

1588
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: I'm not not for me, but like yes, like that,

1589
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 3: the same thank for him though he hasn't been for

1590
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: a couple of less time than him. And again in Atlanta, Yeah, yeah,

1591
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 3: but he was.

1592
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 4: He was the GM of the Falcons when they went

1593
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl against the Patriots. Well Puli was there,

1594
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 4: Oh okay, with them, they were together. I guess maybe

1595
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 4: it's where my head is that at.

1596
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: But I don't.

1597
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 3: I'm with you a larger point. I just don't see

1598
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 3: someone who came into the league under Bill now being

1599
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 3: above Bill and Bill being able to acquiesce to that.

1600
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 4: I think the biggest problem too on top of that

1601
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: is just like you're still giving the players two Bill

1602
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 4: to coach, right, So like if you draft now, some

1603
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: people go to the extreme and say, like if you

1604
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: draft Marvin Harrison Junior and he fumbles and Bill's going

1605
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 4: to bench him for the rest of the year. I

1606
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 4: don't think he's going to.

1607
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: Do that, not the rest of the year, but the

1608
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 3: rest of the game.

1609
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 4: But in terms of like style and play in how

1610
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 4: they play, and the type of player and the mold

1611
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 4: like all that stuff is, it's still all gonna just

1612
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 4: if he's not a two hundred and fifty pound linebacker,

1613
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 4: is Bill going to play him? Or is he going

1614
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 4: to move him to safety? Like you know, it's gonna

1615
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 4: be the same thing.

1616
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: Yep. Like I said, you know, if the Callahan information

1617
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: is correct, if Bill comes back, either he's gonna have

1618
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 1: to have done something we doubt he's going to do,

1619
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: which is give up more control, or a lot of

1620
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: people are going to be unhappy. Yeah you know. Oh man,

1621
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: So let's go to Bill in DC. What's up? Bill?

1622
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 17: So, Fred I want to respectfully disagree with you on

1623
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 17: your idea about like going up with all your draft

1624
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 17: capital to get the guy.

1625
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: Uh oh in terms of quarterback. Okay, yeah, and.

1626
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 17: I get why you're saying it, right Like you're thinking,

1627
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 17: you know, here's someone you're convinced is a good choice,

1628
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 17: and you're optimizing for that future, right, Like this kid's

1629
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 17: going to be nice as a chance he'll be a

1630
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 17: franchise quarterback, so it's worth spending a lot of draft

1631
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,959
Speaker 17: capital to get that person. My concern is that sometimes

1632
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 17: the less lately future happens, and then in that case,

1633
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 17: you've made a disastrous decision that has catastrophic consequences, like

1634
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 17: Evan keeps pointing back to Carolina. So given the uncertainty

1635
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 17: about drafting and draftical quarterbacks, I would rather see a

1636
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 17: robust decision that works.

1637
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 18: Kind of no matter what happens. Like most of the futures.

1638
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 17: I'd like to see the pacers to good scouting, make

1639
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 17: their best choices with the draft capital, except it's going

1640
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 17: to be a hit the misses, and then over time

1641
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 17: do what you guys have always said as a problem

1642
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 17: to here, build up their roster, do that draft careful

1643
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 17: the overtime over.

1644
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but that's what Fred wants to do too well.

1645
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: No, I get what he's saying. Not my point. If

1646
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: you know, particularly to the quarterback, if you believe he's

1647
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: the guy, then do what you have to do to

1648
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, because he's not going to be there

1649
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: next year.

1650
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 6: You wouldn't make this argument for another position either. No,

1651
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 6: I mean this is just as much, not as much.

1652
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 1: No, not as much.

1653
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 3: And I'm somewhere in between the two philosophies.

1654
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 6: But I just.

1655
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: I think that there's notion that quarterback is just so

1656
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 3: much different in terms of you can't do it for quarterback.

1657
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: It's just too risky and like it didn't hurt the

1658
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, right, No, But my point is, yeah,

1659
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: my point is a little different than that. It's just that,

1660
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: like to Fred's idea of targeting a guy and moving

1661
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: up to get him.

1662
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: If you have to. No, But like I'm also saying, reaching,

1663
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: So you guys were talking about Penix. If let's say

1664
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots had number three, I don't care what the

1665
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 1: rest of the league thinks where he should be draft.

1666
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: If I believe that Penix is my guy, I'll take

1667
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: him at three. I don't want to take the risk

1668
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: of losing him because I believe in him.

1669
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 4: I just watched team after team after team reach on

1670
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 4: the quarterback and it happens every single year, and it

1671
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 4: always back.

1672
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: And I saw a year after, but it doesn't always

1673
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: back right then it's bad, Like obviously what happens San

1674
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: Francisco is back, Like you don't want to invest, you

1675
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 3: don't want to invest extra picks. It was not bad

1676
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 3: when Kansas City did it and they targeted Patrick Mahomes.

1677
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 4: But did it at a different part of the draft,

1678
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 4: right like ten, Yeah, but that's a different party.

1679
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 14: Get they get up a first and a third to

1680
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 14: switch spots with you, you're going like five to one,

1681
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 14: it's going to be a much different You've got to

1682
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 14: fly over going Zamboni.

1683
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 10: I know.

1684
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 4: But but to me, it's not about the what you

1685
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: give up, it's about do you hit.

1686
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 3: Like That's where I agree with Fred, Like if you miss,

1687
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 3: I don't care if I don't give up, Like if

1688
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 3: I miss, I miss, and not like San Francisco I missed.

1689
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 3: Like it hurts even when you're San Francisco. It hurts

1690
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: to to make a trade for the number three pick

1691
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: and miss. It's it's not good, I think, But like

1692
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 3: you have to have strength in your conviction the same way,

1693
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: but the same way that the caller is talking about.

1694
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 3: I want to just do it by trusting the safe

1695
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: way of scouting and drafting and developing. Yes, that's what

1696
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: That's what Fred's doing, right, He's scouting, drafting and developing

1697
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 3: the guy that he target. And I'm trusting my scouts,

1698
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: like you can't trust them that it could be wrong.

1699
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 3: That's why, Like, I don't think Devon's wrong like that.

1700
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: That's why I'm in the middle here. But I just

1701
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: think you're doing the same thing, only you're increasing the

1702
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: risk by trading chicks. Like it's still reliant on you

1703
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 3: getting it right.

1704
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 6: I feel like you almost need a personal connection with

1705
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 6: that court, like you have to have above and beyond information,

1706
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 6: not just like we just love his tape that much.

1707
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: It's almost like to do that. You're like, it's the psychological,

1708
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: it's the medicals, it's knowing his group of friends, it's

1709
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: knowing his coaching staff, it's blood type. Yeah, the Patriots

1710
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: in a few instances, I think.

1711
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: Off the rails know what that means.

1712
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: But the air.

1713
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing, though, is like the one

1714
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 4: thing draft draft philosophy that the Patriots. A here too

1715
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 4: that I actually agree with is the is teering players, Like,

1716
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 4: if you really feel that Caleb Williams is so far

1717
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 4: and above the rest of this class, then I can

1718
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 4: maybe get on board with what Fred is saying. The

1719
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 4: problem that I have is is what's the difference at

1720
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 4: the end of the day between Drake may, Michael Pennix,

1721
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels.

1722
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 3: So this is this is this is different.

1723
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: I agree with him. If the way you are, then

1724
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: I agree. But if my staff says that we have

1725
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: a chance to get Caleb Williams, he is far and

1726
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 1: above everybody else, we have the shot. Take the shot,

1727
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: Take the shot. As Eminem says, I just think that

1728
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 1: you have one at the end of the only have

1729
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: one shot.

1730
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, it's it's.

1731
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 4: Falling in love with a player like that so much reference.

1732
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 3: His name is Matt And in the middle of the

1733
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: sentiment was.

1734
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 9: Right, you only get one shot. Do not miss this time?

1735
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: Right? Don't mis spaghetti.

1736
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 12: That I was about to just spit it all out

1737
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 12: of us right now, like word for word.

1738
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure he could do it.

1739
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: Nervous.

1740
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, that's okay. I just think that the worst thing

1741
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 4: that teams do is fall in love with the prospect.

1742
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 4: It's the worst thing to do when it's it has

1743
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 4: to be this guy. We can't if we don't come

1744
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 4: out of the draft with Caleb Williams, the whole off

1745
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 4: seasons of failure and I but.

1746
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: Your but you're yeah, but your philosophy of tears I

1747
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 3: would wholeheardly agree with. And I think there probably is

1748
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: some truth to that in this this particular group of quarterbacks.

1749
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 3: You could probably pull a lot of guys around the

1750
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: NFL with these four guys and maybe get some different answers.

1751
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 3: So that's fine. I don't think that you would have

1752
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: pulled a lot of guys and gotten different answers with

1753
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 3: like Andrew Luck, Okay, And I think that's what we're

1754
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: talking about.

1755
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't, I don't.

1756
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 3: I probably don't think he is. And though I like

1757
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 3: him more than everybody else, I don't really think that

1758
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: he is in that category. But that's the difference if

1759
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 3: you if you just tear it up, then absolutely you

1760
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 3: don't do the fred thing. Like if I'm if I'm

1761
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: gonna be happy with Drake may or Jayden Daniels, I

1762
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 3: don't need to do you know a bold movie before it.

1763
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 3: But if I only think one of those guys is

1764
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 3: going to be a good player and I really need

1765
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 3: that player, I just think I have to.

1766
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 4: Look at it to like, so I take the first

1767
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: two picks in the draft. For example, you could have

1768
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 4: you know, Jaden Daniels and the left tackle from Washington fought, Now,

1769
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 4: who's gonna be a pretty good player people think, Or

1770
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 4: you could have Joe All and Michael Pennix at the

1771
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 4: top of the second round, right, and you have to

1772
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 4: look at, like, which which bucket would you rather?

1773
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: If you're willing to do that, then obviously you don't

1774
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: think that the quarterback is that good or that much better.

1775
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: And I would just argue that I think that that's

1776
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: that's generally largely a Patriots philosophy that has not done

1777
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 3: them well.

1778
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 4: But I also think there's context, like the rest of

1779
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 4: the league might get medical reports on Penix that he

1780
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 4: is his knees are ticking time bomb, and that's why

1781
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 4: he doesn't end up going in the first round, but

1782
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 4: at the top of the second round, that's going to

1783
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 4: be worth the risk. Like it just like we were

1784
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 4: talking about Gronk, you know, yesterday, But that's not worth

1785
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 4: the risk in the top ten, right.

1786
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 3: But I would say, and this is funny, Fred and

1787
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 3: I used to argue about this at the time, like,

1788
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 3: I think the Gronk pick at the time, and this

1789
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: is not revisions history, because Andy was on the show

1790
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 3: at the time and Andy that it's probably the singular

1791
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 3: prospect that he loved the most. Yeah, that's true, but

1792
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: he loved them, and we were all on board with

1793
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: the Gronk pick. We thought it was a great pick.

1794
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 3: I don't think picking Gronk in the second round in

1795
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four would be a great pick for this team.

1796
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't think that kind of a risk would be

1797
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 3: a great pick, YEA. Like that's the difference in where

1798
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: they were and the status that Bill had then as.

1799
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: Opposed to take those risks those positions.

1800
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 4: I just think that a big part And I said

1801
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 4: this to Barth as we were arguing it with each other.

1802
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 4: Per usual, a big part of the job when it

1803
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 4: comes to the draft is knowing the board and knowing

1804
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: how the rest of the league values a player. And

1805
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 4: the reason why the Patriots are in this position partially

1806
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 4: is because they took Cole Strange a full round before

1807
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 4: the rest of the league thought that he should be drafted.

1808
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 4: So if you let's take Jade and Daniels, Michael Pennocks, whoever,

1809
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 4: if the Patriots take that player fifth overall, and the

1810
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 4: rest of the league was like, I don't know, our

1811
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 4: doctors checked out Michael Pennix and like we didn't have

1812
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 4: him in the first round because his knee is gonna

1813
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 4: blow in three years, then that was a mistake. You

1814
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 4: overdrafted the player. And I feel the same way if

1815
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 4: if the league looks at Jayden Daniels and finds flaws

1816
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 4: in his game or whoever, you just you can't reaching

1817
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 4: on players is how you get into it.

1818
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: It's funny though, you know, for many, many years people

1819
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: just were just furious at Belichick and the Patriots for

1820
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: constantly trading down. And now it seems this year everyone's

1821
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: like open to that idea, because.

1822
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, I have actually said it, but I

1823
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people are.

1824
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm hearing like an openness.

1825
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: It depends on where you fall. I think it a

1826
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 3: lot depends on Sunday, Like this.

1827
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: Whole idea of trade down, get a tackle, and then

1828
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: maybe you can trade back up and still get a quarterback,

1829
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: you know.

1830
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 6: I mean, if you end up at four or five, though,

1831
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 6: you might just have to take the tackle if you

1832
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 6: really want to tackle. But I mean, I'm open to it,

1833
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 6: but I totally understand people who are like, hell no, I.

1834
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 3: Think like people look at it and they say, oh,

1835
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 3: trade down, so you get four, trade down to like eight,

1836
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: and you get a tackle. Okay, maybe you feel better

1837
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 3: about taking one of the tackles at eight than you

1838
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 3: do four, And then you can get a quarterback. The

1839
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 3: other pick isn't coming till the second round. Right, You're

1840
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,799
Speaker 3: not getting like another first round pick, right, you're switching

1841
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: spots and you're getting like maybe a future one maybe

1842
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 3: depending on how far the team has to come, or

1843
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 3: more likely a second rounder that well that's two, right,

1844
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: and then yeah, but then you package them together, right, No,

1845
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 3: I know, but where are you getting the quarterbacks? They're

1846
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 3: all going to be gone?

1847
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1848
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe unless you just want the scraps, like again,

1849
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 3: you can get J. J. McCarthy.

1850
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: It comes out.

1851
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 4: I'm not convinced, and I'm not convinced that all four

1852
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 4: quarterbacks are going to be gone that quickly. I think

1853
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 4: that Pennix's medicals are a big question mark. Yeah, And

1854
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 4: I think if they're not Daniels as a passer, is

1855
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 4: is it going to be a question mark to a

1856
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 4: lot of people in the league.

1857
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: But I see this is weird. If they're not, then

1858
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 3: I have less interest in them, do you know what

1859
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean? Like if these guys aren't all like top

1860
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 3: fifteen players according to the whole league, right, but then

1861
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm not as interested.

1862
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: But they'll be.

1863
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 4: They won't be top fifteen players because of like context though, right,

1864
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 4: like Obe, because Pennix is into injuries, or because some teams.

1865
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 3: Don't want to definitely in Penix the situation, I would say, yes.

1866
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 4: They don't want to adapt their entire offense to fit

1867
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 4: somebody like Jayden Daniels. Like there's a reason why Lamar

1868
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,839
Speaker 4: Jackson went thirty second overall, right, And I'm not convinced

1869
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 4: five years later that the same guy is going to

1870
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 4: go at any higher than Lamar did not yet, Like,

1871
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 4: I just think that there's still a lot of that

1872
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 4: old school thinking around the league, that guys like that

1873
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to tailor it and he's run first,

1874
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 4: and he's better with his legs and he is with

1875
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 4: his arm, and like we're gonna have to adapt everything,

1876
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 4: and like, I don't think that every team is going

1877
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: to be willing to do that.

1878
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: All right, a couple more calls and then we'll get

1879
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: to picks. We'll go to Fidel and Tampa. What's up, Fiddel?

1880
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 23: Hey, how are you guys doing good?

1881
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: Hey?

1882
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 11: Good?

1883
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 23: I've been a huge fan of called numerous times. I'm

1884
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 23: actually Fiddel from Cyprus. Back when you guys had that

1885
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 23: board while the people we still got it.

1886
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 11: There you go.

1887
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 23: I had a quick twenty or and then my point

1888
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 23: trying to find a new filter for my fridge, and

1889
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 23: as I'm walking past the washer and dryer, I just

1890
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 23: hear that one of the guys go, yeah, you gotta go,

1891
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 23: speed Queen.

1892
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 3: They're there, you go, you go.

1893
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: Now you know where I was this weekend?

1894
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah you had to buy another one because yeah, they

1895
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 3: used all.

1896
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 11: Those commercials laundry mass.

1897
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 23: I was almost something around crying.

1898
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go? Did you get so? You didn't

1899
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: you don't have a speed queen at home?

1900
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 23: I take it, no, I don't have it.

1901
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 3: Well, you wouldn't be going out to look for a

1902
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 3: new one if you haven't.

1903
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: You set up a filter for his fridge which by

1904
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 1: the way, I have issues with that. I got filtered

1905
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: from my fridge. Yeah that's a scam. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

1906
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: they have like automatic reorder like this scam. Anyway, what

1907
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: are we talking about?

1908
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 9: Fridge filters checked out?

1909
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 23: I've been like holding my a lot with everything Bill's done,

1910
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 23: But I honestly think you should go because even if

1911
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 23: you draft the best quarterback of itailable Bills, what maybe

1912
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 23: two more years? Right, and that's the whole new coaching

1913
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:09,879
Speaker 23: turnover then yep, And then the whole point with drafting

1914
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 23: of Michael Pennock that he may be great, but he's

1915
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 23: injuries in two three years get him out of the league,

1916
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:19,799
Speaker 23: or drafting uh an ok QB Like, look at the Vikings.

1917
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 23: They have like the best offense with jettas Justin Jefferson

1918
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 23: and Mario Addison, and they have Kirk Cousins and they

1919
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 23: have not any further next to the divisional round. So

1920
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 23: you may have the best offense defense, that's the far

1921
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 23: quarterback is not going to get you over the hump.

1922
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could definitely be the deterrent.

1923
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 4: To be fair, Kirk Cousins and.

1924
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 3: Thanks, did you know he tore his achilles?

1925
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? But you know, this isn't the first year

1926
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: he's been the first year.

1927
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 3: He had that offense. Yeah, yeah, well yeah, I mean

1928
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 3: I should say the defense, but be slow. I don't like,

1929
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how far Minnesota would have gone. But

1930
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 3: like Minnesota is not like the gold standard for offense

1931
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 3: in the league because they have Justin Jefferson's the best receiver. Like,

1932
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: there's a lot more that goes into that.

1933
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michelle's in South Carolina. Hey, Michelle, Hey, guys, how

1934
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: are you good?

1935
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 3: Doing great? Michelle?

1936
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 6: I thought you only call when Hardy was here.

1937
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 24: No for me now, oh oh, I'm following you guys.

1938
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 6: Now, no, thanks Michelle.

1939
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: You guys.

1940
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 3: She can't get up early and talk to Hardy. She

1941
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: can't get up and talk to Hardy early.

1942
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 24: I've got to set my alarm.

1943
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: I like to sleep for Nooname listen.

1944
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 24: So we're talking about Bill. I was like on the

1945
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 24: fence sixty forty. He was saying, Now, it's a little

1946
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 24: bit low up. But I can't imagine him leaving him

1947
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 24: and not having a job. That's just to me, is beyond.

1948
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 24: I have to imagine he's talking to somebody.

1949
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree, leave it.

1950
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:54,759
Speaker 1: Okay.

1951
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 24: So we're going to get a quatter back and it's

1952
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 24: gonna be what it talks to quarterback top.

1953
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: Five maybe, I mean they'll have that pick.

1954
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 24: But I don't know if the Bridge him, I mean,

1955
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 24: he's not going to be staty. I wouldn't imagine why not,

1956
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 24: So who are we gonna get for the Bridge quarter back?

1957
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully high first?

1958
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 24: Chicago is not going to get rid of Field.

1959
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: No, I don't know about that.

1960
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're gonna get rid of me.

1961
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily know that that the rookie won't be

1962
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 4: ready to start right away, well, whether he's ready or not,

1963
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 4: like why, I mean, I wouldn't they had Cam Newton before.

1964
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: They're gonna have somebody and they let Max start right away.

1965
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 4: Bailey's happy, Billy?

1966
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: Do you think it built?

1967
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 3: That's what I would say, Michelle.

1968
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 4: But I mean, but it's not like you're not trying

1969
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 4: to win like necessarily right, Like I know that sounds crazy,

1970
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 4: but what are we doing here? But you're not like

1971
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 4: you're not If I'm you're paying Jacoby Brissett is gonna

1972
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 4: make probably some'll backup quarterback money next year, like maybe

1973
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, eight to ten million, something like.

1974
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 3: That if you're bringing him in with a chance to start, yes,

1975
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 3: I would say ten million, right.

1976
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 4: So is that the best in the best interest or like,

1977
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 4: if the guy's not ready and Bailey Zappy starts for

1978
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 4: the first month of the season, you know you're you're

1979
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 4: building something for the next ten years, not for the

1980
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: next eight weeks of the season, you know.

1981
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: So all right, thanks show, appreciate one more call and

1982
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get to picks. Eldred, what's up, Eldred?

1983
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 8: Hey, ladies, gentlemen, how y'all doing all right? Three to

1984
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 8: one d P one hundred percent. But uh, like I

1985
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 8: said before, I heard y'all earlier. And if that report

1986
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 8: is true about Bill O'Brien and Bill and all it

1987
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 8: by the office stuff, and if I dude, you telling

1988
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 8: about well he did, let him come back and do

1989
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 8: it again, are you or do you really want that again?

1990
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Sorry? Say that again?

1991
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 23: Come back?

1992
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: Bring back who what you said?

1993
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 8: Bring back Bills. Let Bill do the draft and everything

1994
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 8: and instead of hand of the keys over to somebody else.

1995
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's what I That's what I definitely want Bill,

1996
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 6: not to get to keep somebody else.

1997
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 8: Get Bill out of the buildings.

1998
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 15: You know time pass.

1999
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did that?

2000
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 8: Reports and everything through alter?

2001
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 4: What do you disagree with me on?

2002
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: What do we do?

2003
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 4: What about him?

2004
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

2005
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, you keep saying you keep doing up injuries. Okay,

2006
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 8: like that, like you said you have today, Well that

2007
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 8: one year with Washington, just like mac Jones one year

2008
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 8: in Alabama? Do it not? Four years?

2009
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Did?

2010
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 11: Yes?

2011
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 7: You did and you did?

2012
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 8: You know, kind of compare it, play it back.

2013
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I could play it backsight, play it back, you can

2014
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: play it on YouTube.

2015
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 8: But he did he did with Indiana. He got hurt

2016
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 8: in I understand he got her and he could run,

2017
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 8: but he got hurt. The Indiana became to Washington, and then,

2018
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 8: like I said, he shows a whole lot better.

2019
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 11: He got the receiver.

2020
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got a line. Then you said, putt.

2021
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 11: He be the same.

2022
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: It won't be the sign.

2023
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 8: It won't be the sign.

2024
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 4: Okay, your son catch twenty two, I assumed. Okay, So

2025
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 4: what I said about the MACT thing with with Penix

2026
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 4: is elder. I think you could admit to this too.

2027
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 4: Like we have to learn from why mac Jones failed,

2028
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 4: And one of the big reasons why mac Jones failed,

2029
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 4: it turns out, is that the Alabama supporting cast made

2030
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 4: him look better than he is. So with Penix, I

2031
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 4: agree that the eye test tells me that he's a

2032
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 4: more talented player than Mac Jones was in college. But

2033
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 4: you still have to put some thought into the fact

2034
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 4: that he's throwing to three top one hundred wide receivers

2035
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 4: behind one of the best offensive lines in college football.

2036
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 4: So how much better is he talent wise that that

2037
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 4: bridges that gap? Like is it good enough? And the

2038
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 4: injuries you have to talk about the injuries. The guy

2039
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 4: had four seasons injuries.

2040
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,520
Speaker 8: But in Indiana.

2041
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 4: And he was still top Yeah, you're throwing, ye, he'll running.

2042
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 18: So like I said, you may you made my case

2043
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 18: for me.

2044
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 8: You keep saying you can't do can't you have a

2045
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 8: port bet to do it on his own? We can

2046
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 8: eat some help, but getting you. On the other hand,

2047
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 8: you keep saying DC lift he back behind him, were

2048
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 8: left talent. We have proof that it can't be done

2049
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 8: in New England. Look at Zappy, look at Matt.

2050
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 4: He is not going to have his talent. The talent

2051
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 4: gap that he has right now at Washington compared to

2052
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 4: his level of competition is not going to be the

2053
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 4: same in the NFL. Regardless of how good of a

2054
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 4: team they put around him.

2055
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: Thanks, Aldred's gonna happen.

2056
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2057
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: I like when when Eldred brings in, I would just

2058
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 3: say one, one minor thing, like I think we were

2059
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 3: sort of just saying, yeah, the injuries are are legit. Well,

2060
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 3: he keeps saying how in Indiana he ran, he's town

2061
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 3: his a cl twice. Since then, he doesn't run anymore.

2062
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 3: Like that's not like just circumstantial, Like he's not a

2063
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: runner anymore. He ran a little bit in the Sugar Bowl,

2064
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 3: but he did he made some plays off platform that were,

2065
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 3: you know, kind of impressive. I wonder if like that's

2066
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 3: in his back pocket only in a championship type game

2067
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 3: situation because of the injuries. They don't want him to

2068
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 3: get hurt, so they're protecting him. I just don't when

2069
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 3: a guy attempts to run. In six seasons of play,

2070
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 3: the most times I think was thirty five. I looked

2071
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 3: up yesterday. He's not a runner.

2072
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he's not a runner. He's more of like

2073
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 4: like I said yesterday, he's more of like a to

2074
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 4: like move off your spot and throw it.

2075
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 3: And that's fine if he if he can throw the

2076
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 3: ball the way he did on Monday, Like I don't

2077
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 3: need him to run around and be a dual threat.

2078
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

2079
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: All right, good show, good, appreciate the emails, appreciate the

2080
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: call the callers. But now it is that time of

2081
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: the week. Bub bub Paul, what happened last week?

2082
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys all did well. Mike, Alex, and Evan

2083
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 3: all twelve and four. I was eleven and five and

2084
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 3: Fred was ten and si. So it was a good

2085
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:02,520
Speaker 3: week for everybody except.

2086
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: With the spread.

2087
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 3: It was Mike, Alex and Paul at nine and seven,

2088
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 3: Fred at eight and eight and Evan seven and nine.

2089
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 4: How did it? How is I so good? Straight up?

2090
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 4: But so bad?

2091
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Because it's because you.

2092
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: Just you just picked the favorites every week without anything

2093
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 3: if you don't even watch, no, I have no idea

2094
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 3: watch them tape it actual. So Alex has extended the

2095
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 3: lead by a game one sixty four and ninety two,

2096
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 3: followed by Paul at won sixty and ninety six, Mike

2097
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 3: one fifty seven and ninety nine, uh, Evan one fifty

2098
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 3: five and one oh one, and Fred one fifty three

2099
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 3: and one o three. With the spread just the blowout

2100
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 3: Paul one thirty four one, eleven and eleven. Alex won

2101
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 3: twenty four one, twenty one and eleven. Good job you're

2102
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 3: now making money? Tell yeah, uh, let's see not actually no,

2103
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 3: last week was only one game over, so actually she wasn't.

2104
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 3: Three games over will get you. That'll get you some money. Yeah,

2105
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 3: the vigor, but the yes, let's see, got it right?

2106
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: Fred one eighteen one, twenty seven and eleven, Evan one

2107
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 3: seventeen one, twenty eight and eleven and Mike one thirteen

2108
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 3: one thirty two in eleven.

2109
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 6: Eight first your last four I got soon coming to

2110
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 6: get you.

2111
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: I think on Tuesday we were talking about the Lions game,

2112
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: and you know, now that betting is legal, you know,

2113
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: the league will need to be more transparent. It's a

2114
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: bigger deal now. And somebody one of our listeners from

2115
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: Australia emailed me and said, you know, in Australia betting

2116
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 1: has been legal for a long time and we have

2117
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: uh you know, Australian rules football and rugby and the

2118
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 1: rest suck there too, and life goes on like it didn't,

2119
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, with bad calls, like people haven't sued these

2120
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: leagues and everything, so they're saying that you can still

2121
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: have bad calls and it'll be fine, even though that

2122
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 1: will get gambling his legal crazy like us.

2123
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 3: I just don't Yeah, I don't think. I think that's

2124
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 3: way overblown. That's part of it, Like the fact that

2125
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: bet betting is legal now, yeah, because I think if.

2126
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 4: Parents because people are losing money.

2127
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 3: But if you wanted to be in a referees pocket,

2128
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 3: like legalizing gambling didn't change.

2129
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: No, But I think the point now is when it

2130
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: was illegal, there was no recourse, like you're not going

2131
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: to sue the league because you're doing no.

2132
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 10: No, no.

2133
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 1: I get.

2134
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 3: I get that people are going to be up and

2135
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 3: our I get that people are more upset about it.

2136
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 3: I just don't think it changed like people think it's

2137
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 3: changed the importance of these the outcome. Why because fans

2138
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 3: are upset, don't bet, Like that's the risk that you run.

2139
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 3: And when I say, like it being fixed, yeah, that's

2140
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 3: part of being that's part of the risk.

2141
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 1: But there is that chance, like if if it became

2142
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: out I was out there that there was more than

2143
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: just a little fixing of games. Now that it's legal,

2144
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: there could be a class action suit against the NFL

2145
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: on the behalf of gamblers, and they could sue the.

2146
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 3: League, right, But what I'm saying is what was stopping

2147
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 3: people that were gambling legally in Las Vegas from doing that?

2148
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: That's right, it was.

2149
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 3: So I just and I'm not saying it's not an

2150
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 3: issue because because I do think it's it's bigger, it's

2151
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 3: more mainstream, really, But I'm whatever that.

2152
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 7: Leagues have their hand in the pot when people were

2153
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 7: going and gambling in Vegas or was it Caesar and

2154
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 7: MGM and stuff like, leagues have a little.

2155
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: More Boston College and the NBA.

2156
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 3: And I know, but Alex's point is now that the

2157
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 3: leagues are all in bed with the casinos, is that

2158
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:34,799
Speaker 3: keep it from happening?

2159
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 10: No?

2160
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 3: Does it make it worse?

2161
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, like it's like, what it

2162
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 4: only takes one person to get really mad to start

2163
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 4: a whole chain reaction. But I just think that life,

2164
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 4: like you said, life moves on, Like is anybody really

2165
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 4: going to remember the Lions Cowboys game and how it ended.

2166
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 7: To the guy that bet his child's college fund.

2167
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, that guy, if he won that one,

2168
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 3: he was last lost the next.

2169
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 1: Because that's how it works.

2170
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 3: All right. So there's a lot just up front there's

2171
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 3: a lot of key personnel on all teams not playing.

2172
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 3: I don't have them all committed to memory. Mike and

2173
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: I were talking about this a little this morning, so

2174
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 3: just to the point where I couldn't even and if

2175
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 3: you guys want to go on DraftKings now and see

2176
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 3: like as of like eleven forty, DraftKings did not even

2177
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 3: have the lines up. So I got these out of

2178
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,600
Speaker 3: the globe today so that the numbers may be a

2179
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 3: little bit different, but whatever, coast, So go ahead, Fred, all.

2180
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: Right, So we have two games on Saturday. The first

2181
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: one starts at four thirty. It's on ESPN, ABC, ESPN plus,

2182
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:47,600
Speaker 1: ESPN Deportes. The nine and seven Steelers are at the

2183
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: thirteen and three.

2184
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 3: Ravens No Lamar, Jacks, no Lamar. Yes, a lot of

2185
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 3: Ravens not playing in this game. Steelers are favored on

2186
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 3: the road by four by four.

2187
01:36:58,240 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Uh real quick.

2188
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 6: I just I gamed out my picks today and if

2189
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 6: my picks go the Patriots sent up with the fourth

2190
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 6: overall pick, I'm taking Pittsburgh.

2191
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: I lay the points.

2192
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 4: Wait, you already did this ahead of the time.

2193
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: I kind of just was gaming it out.

2194
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pittsburgh, and you allaying the points cheating.

2195
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 9: You just came prepared.

2196
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

2197
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know how to do what.

2198
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 6: He there's a there's like a simulator thing. So he

2199
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 6: just picked the games and then it tells you.

2200
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's very easy. So you just picked every game.

2201
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's what we're doing.

2202
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 9: I'm gonna take the Steelers as well with the spread.

2203
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: Gotta hurry you, Evan Ravens. Ravens, Okay, I'm going to hurry.

2204
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to take Pittsburgh to win the game, but

2205
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 3: I will take the points.

2206
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Paul. I'm gonna split it up. Ravens lose,

2207
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: but they cover. Uh eight fifteen on ESPN, ABC, ESPN plus,

2208
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: ESPN Deportes nine and seven Texans at the nine and

2209
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: seven Colts.

2210
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 3: Okay, this game will be played legit because this game

2211
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 3: is uh, the winner gets a playoff spot. Houston is

2212
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 3: favored by one.

2213
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going flip since.

2214
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might not be like I said. I went

2215
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 3: to the globes.

2216
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 4: I have Houston minus one and a half, so but

2217
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 4: the same.

2218
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that's close.

2219
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 6: I will take Houston minus one on the road and

2220
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 6: they get in right, and this is for the title.

2221
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 3: Houston with the win. The winner of this game is

2222
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: guaranteed a wild card and could win the division if

2223
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 3: Jacksonville loses.

2224
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm riding with Houston as well.

2225
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take the better quarterback. I'm gonna take Houston too.

2226
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm gonna take Houston too.

2227
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Colts. Colts have been a game

2228
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: team this year. They're at home. I will go with

2229
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: the Colts to pull this one out. Uh Sunday at one,

2230
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 1: the eight and eight Buccaneers are at the two and

2231
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 1: fourteen drinking your face Panthers.

2232
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 3: Nice great apology by Away for that one. I regret it,

2233
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 3: Tampa bay By. I regret not allowing the NFL security

2234
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 3: to handle it because I think was part of his

2235
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 3: phraseology perfect no regrets, no regirts. I will take It's

2236
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 3: sorry Tampa by four and a half.

2237
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 6: And do we know with Tampa sitting guys or no,

2238
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 6: Tampa needs to win and then I will take Tampa.

2239
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 6: I believe I will lay the points that may not.

2240
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 4: Be right, Tampa, Tampa, Tampa, Tampa.

2241
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 3: I think Tampa needs to win. I am Tampa Tampa.

2242
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: Also me to Tampa Tampa one o'clock on CBS. The

2243
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,560
Speaker 1: eleven and five Browns are at the eight and eight Bengals.

2244
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so this one you get some funny stuff. Cleveland

2245
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 3: is starting Jeff Driscoll quarterback. Sounds like a gym teacher

2246
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 3: who has not really missed.

2247
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 9: I have a good friend from college. His dad is

2248
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 9: Jeff Driscoll.

2249
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 3: I think everybody knows what is that conventional spelling for Driscolls,

2250
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 3: not like this guy with the R.

2251
01:39:59,080 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 9: The normal way?

2252
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 3: So can't Cincinnati is favored by seven, so obviously they're eliminated. Yes,

2253
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 3: obviously the line is, you know, taking into consideration that

2254
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 3: Cleveland's not playing nobody.

2255
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll take Cincinnati. But that's a lot of points

2256
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 6: in a weird game. So I'll take the points.

2257
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 9: Will I same thing as News?

2258
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 4: All right, fine, I'll do the same thing.

2259
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways. I don't think

2260
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 3: Cleveland's going to be into the sky.

2261
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 1: I will take the points defensive depth. Sunday at one

2262
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: on Fox seven and nine Vikings or at the eleven

2263
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: and five pissed off.

2264
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 3: Lions Detroit by three and a half. I don't know

2265
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 3: the situation with personnel in this one. Minnesota is not eliminated,

2266
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 3: and Detroit I don't think can move their spot.

2267
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes it weird for me. That's I'm gonna

2268
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 6: take Detroit and I will lay the points.

2269
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna take Detroit at pissed off Detroit at home.

2270
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Detroit. I just think the Vikings

2271
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:03,719
Speaker 4: kind of stink.

2272
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's back to Nick Mullens by the way.

2273
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.

2274
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 3: So three and a half. I'm gonna take Minnesota to

2275
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 3: win the game, but I will take Detroit to cover.

2276
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: I will take Detroit both ways. Sunday at one, these

2277
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 1: seven and nine Falcons are at the eight and eight Saints.

2278
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 3: No Leans by three, and I believe New Orleans can

2279
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 3: win the division with a win and a Tampa loss.

2280
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take New Orleans at home, all o

2281
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: the points please.

2282
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I guess I'll do the same. I did

2283
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 4: not put any thought.

2284
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 3: So this is going to complete my own. This is

2285
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 3: going to complete my oh and seventeen season picking the

2286
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 3: Falcons game. I will take New Orleans.

2287
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 4: Are you actually seventeen?

2288
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 3: I can't imagine I've won any games with them.

2289
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: I have no idea. What's gonna be the new line.

2290
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 1: They're vikings.

2291
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 3: Everybody has one.

2292
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: Yep. I'm gonna go with the Saints as well. One

2293
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: o'clock see nine and seven Jaguars at the five and

2294
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: eleven Titans.

2295
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 4: Gays need this game.

2296
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 3: Yeah they do. Uh, Jags by five and a.

2297
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 1: Half, and Lawrence looks like he's gonna play.

2298
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Don't know that.

2299
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Jacksonville.

2300
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: They pull out the win.

2301
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 9: Jaguars, Jaguars.

2302
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 4: I'm kind of tempted to take the Titans me too,

2303
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 4: the Jabs. Just that Jaguars always choking these types of spots, right,

2304
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna take the the Jags. You know, I'll

2305
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 4: take the Titans to cover field goal game.

2306
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. I'll take the

2307
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: Jags to win, but I'll take the.

2308
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: Points me too.

2309
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 6: I think gets fired.

2310
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 21: I don't know.

2311
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 4: I think it's funny. How absolutely not, Like so many

2312
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 4: people think vrabels like they have one more win than

2313
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:45,919
Speaker 4: the Patriots.

2314
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he might, he might leave, he might force his

2315
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 3: way out, but he ain't getting fired, all right, I'd

2316
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 3: be really surprised.

2317
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: Now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock we

2318
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: go to four to twenty five. There're a No four

2319
01:42:58,560 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: or five games this week.

2320
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 3: All No four or five games, Fred, No four or

2321
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:03,719
Speaker 3: five games.

2322
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: It's tough.

2323
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 3: That means it's a delayed start to red zone.

2324
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: Paul. Yeah, the eight and eight Seahawks and the snow

2325
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 1: The eight and eight Seahawks are at the four and

2326
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: twelve Cardinals.

2327
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 3: That's way down my list here, Seattle by two and

2328
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 3: a half. This game should be played reasonably straight up.

2329
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: Right, and man, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna change it up.

2330
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,759
Speaker 6: I had seeah, I'm gonna go with Arizona though, oh Arizona,

2331
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 6: maybe that'll get Patriots up to three.

2332
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 9: I'm just gonna go with the Sharps. I'll take Seattle.

2333
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 4: I'm taking Arizona. I think that they're a little frisky Cardinals.

2334
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 3: I'll take Seattle, but I could definitely see uh the

2335
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 3: fisky factor.

2336
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 10: Kyl.

2337
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: Full slate of four to twenty five games, by the way,

2338
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,600
Speaker 1: can you pick them? I'm gonna go with the Seahawks.

2339
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 1: Both players all right, four twenty five, seven and nine

2340
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,959
Speaker 1: bare at the eight to eight Packers.

2341
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I know no one on the panel knows anything

2342
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 3: that's going on with Chicago based on yesterday's show, green

2343
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 3: Bay by three. Interesting you weren't here.

2344
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: Interesting spot.

2345
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 6: And I know Chicago has been playing a little frisky,

2346
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna go green Bay at home. The Lambeau Leap,

2347
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 6: they pull out a win, green Bay, Green Bay.

2348
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go green Bay at home as well. I

2349
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 4: like how Jordan loves playing. I think he's been playing

2350
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 4: pretty well second.

2351
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 3: Half, played really well last week. I will take Chicago

2352
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:36,799
Speaker 3: to keep their late season momentum.

2353
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 1: Paul, you are correct. This is your upset lock of

2354
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: the week. Bears win. Justin Fields has a good game

2355
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: and the intrigue surrounding his future increases four to twenty five.

2356
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: The ten and six Chiefs are at the five and

2357
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:54,919
Speaker 1: eleven Chargers.

2358
01:44:55,240 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 3: Okay, this is one with Kansas City playing. Blaine Gabbert

2359
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 3: I believe, yeah, that's true. So the Chargers are favored

2360
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 3: by three and a halfsticks.

2361
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 1: Blaine GABBERTA, I'm going to take the Chargers.

2362
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 6: I just feel like they've been they've been already kind

2363
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 6: of in this mode and they'll be at home and

2364
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 6: they're just yeah, I got them.

2365
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 3: I guess whatever funny I was thinking the same exact

2366
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 3: thing as I was typing that in.

2367
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kin used to pay.

2368
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 3: They've already been playing out the strength, right.

2369
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll take the Chargers, but maybe field goal game.

2370
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 3: Take the hook.

2371
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 6: She's getting cockyed, She's taking hooks and stuff.

2372
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 4: She's I'm gonna do the same thing as Alex.

2373
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,560
Speaker 1: She's probably like a pro gambler. We don't even realize that.

2374
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 9: I wish I was allowed now that I know, I'm

2375
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 9: so good at it, I am just going.

2376
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 3: To take Kansas City both ways. I don't know.

2377
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 1: Again, Paul, You're correct, Kansas City wins, and the next

2378
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: day Patriots fans say that Mahomes is a system quarterback.

2379
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 4: I think we should keep track of how many times

2380
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 4: Fred says like, Paul's correct, and then how many times

2381
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 4: you guys are actually I like.

2382
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 3: The Mahomes shot though, is good.

2383
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 1: Eight and eight Broncos are at the seven and nine.

2384
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 3: Raiders, Raiders by two and a half.

2385
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 1: This game of the season. Nothing. I'm gonna take the

2386
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Raiders in Vegas. Lay the points.

2387
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 4: You don't take stam A lot of a lot of

2388
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 4: gotta keep Antonio Pierce talk should be music to Patriots fans.

2389
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 9: Eers Raiders Raiders.

2390
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the Raiders both ways too. I think

2391
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 4: they are playing for the coach a little bit. I

2392
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 4: think they like.

2393
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely they're trying to keep his job. Anytime you let

2394
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 3: the players make that choice, good news for the opponents.

2395
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 3: I will take the Raiders as well.

2396
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 1: What was the number?

2397
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 3: Two and a half?

2398
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: Raiders are favorite? Yes, I'm gonna take the Broncos.

2399
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 3: Just looking for a little juice because as as Hardy

2400
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 3: likes to say, the action is the juice.

2401
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 1: As I said, a lot of four to twenty five games,

2402
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 1: the eleven and five. What that means, Mike, A lot,

2403
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 1: a lot of so many games and you're gonna be

2404
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: a lot the more reason to have a four hour

2405
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: post game are at the five and eleven Giants.

2406
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 3: Of the floundering Eagles are favored by five.

2407
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the Eagles will pull this one out,

2408
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna take the points for the Giants. I

2409
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 6: think it'll be it'll be a slog, probably in similar

2410
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 6: conditions to what's here.

2411
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 9: Eagles both ways.

2412
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the Eagles both ways. But the Nick

2413
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 4: Sirianni thing in Philly, I think is really interesting that

2414
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 4: that that fall from Grace could be rapid. That that

2415
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 4: could be rapid.

2416
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 3: Maybe took everybody a year or so to catch up

2417
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 3: to the offense, and now that the defense is sort

2418
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 3: of falling apart. I am going to take Philly to win,

2419
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 3: but I'll take the points because I just don't like

2420
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:46,719
Speaker 3: the way the Eagles are playing.

2421
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take the Eagles both ways, just

2422
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: because they need to turn things around going into the playoffs.

2423
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Four five, I find I'm taking a lot of road games.

2424
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: Nine and seven Rams are at the twelve and four

2425
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 1: forty nine ers.

2426
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 3: That's the playoff bound Rams. For those of you keeping

2427
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 3: track at home, I know you guys don't.

2428
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: And who owns this series?

2429
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 3: Somebody owns the Niners own the series, however, not in

2430
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Nobody is playing in this game for either somebody.

2431
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 3: No Stafford, uh, no party.

2432
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 4: No McCaffrey, will be no drop off at quarterback, no McCaffrey.

2433
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 3: Uh Niners are favored by four day.

2434
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Rams.

2435
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 6: I think they're they're they're there's B squad will be

2436
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 6: a little bit more frisky, and yeah.

2437
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 1: Go for the upset, if you can call it that.

2438
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 9: I kind of want to take that too. But I'm

2439
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 9: gonna I'm just gonna stick with the forty nine ers.

2440
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 9: I'll give you the Rams the points, though.

2441
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to forty nine Ers. No dropoff quarterback for them.

2442
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take San Francisco, commit to the bit and

2443
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 4: not gonna take them to win cover the spread.

2444
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, i think they'll be a huge drop off, but

2445
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:58,560
Speaker 3: I'll still take the Niners because nobody's playing for the

2446
01:48:58,640 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 3: Rams either.

2447
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty nine ers win this game.

2448
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 3: Who's playing a quarterback for the forty nine ers on

2449
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 3: the same Sam Donald drop This is Sam Donald against

2450
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz. I'm confident on that.

2451
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 4: No drop off.

2452
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 1: Four the eleven and five Cowboys.

2453
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 3: How about them Cowboys?

2454
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: A right now? Four and twelve commanders.

2455
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 4: Dallas by thirteen Commanders are actively tanking this game. Just

2456
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 4: keep that in mind.

2457
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 6: Well, when you say it like that, I'll take Dallas,

2458
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna take the points for Washington because I

2459
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 6: wonder about conditions.

2460
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's in Washington. Cowboys Cowboys.

2461
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking the Cowboys both ways. The Commanders are

2462
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 4: starting Sam Howell, who is objectively worse than Jacoby Brissett.

2463
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 4: And there's also a report out of Washington that most

2464
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 4: of their veterans are probably not even going to play

2465
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 4: in this game. They are legitimately tanking this game.

2466
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 3: That's there's a definition of how to tank, and they're

2467
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 3: doing it. You trade your good players at the trade deadline,

2468
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 3: and you go out there and play hard, shoot your

2469
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 3: best shot, but you ain't gonna win any games. And

2470
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 3: by the way, your boy was gonna start and he

2471
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 3: pulled his hamstring. That's on percent. That's why he didn't

2472
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,839
Speaker 3: start last week. Well, he pulled his hamstring and practice

2473
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 3: on Thursday. Yes, I agree. I'll take Dallas both ways.

2474
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 3: The snow helps that for a team that's tanking, they

2475
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 3: might not even get out of the locker room.

2476
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Cowboys both ways as well.

2477
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 1: And our final game on very sure at eight twenty

2478
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 1: is the ten and six Bills at the eleven and

2479
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 1: five Dolphins. Game of the week, Game of the week.

2480
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 3: It is the game of the week. I just missed

2481
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 3: a bunny. I feel like Luke Cornett Bills by three.

2482
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 1: I didn't understand.

2483
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 4: Why did you just lose like that?

2484
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 3: He's one of the worst NBA players basketball play. Yeah,

2485
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 3: I like that other guy. By the way, that I

2486
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 3: think he should play more Quita.

2487
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, case.

2488
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,800
Speaker 3: So I'm not just taking a shot at the guys

2489
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 3: on the bench. I think I think in particular.

2490
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 4: Game play, little poor Man's Rob Williams with Queita.

2491
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take your word for it.

2492
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Buffalo.

2493
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 3: I'm only seven minutes for the last two games.

2494
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 4: That's why I did it.

2495
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Buffalo in this one. I think,

2496
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 6: you know, I don't think they're you know, the team

2497
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 6: that they've been, But I just I like Josh Allen

2498
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 6: in this game, and I'm going to take the Buffalo.

2499
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 6: Josh Allen's over Miami, Tuas and Bank.

2500
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 3: Everybody's hurt on fire.

2501
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's unsettled right now. Buffalo Buffalo.

2502
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 4: It's not funny.

2503
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 6: It's like some kid playing with match.

2504
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 9: Kid was playing with a lighter.

2505
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 4: Be careful kids in the house, apparently. Well, it's fair.

2506
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Buffalo in this game. I just think

2507
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 4: that I don't know if Miami is ready for this

2508
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 4: spot yet, and I think the Bills are and I

2509
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 4: like the Bills in this game, and I like Josh

2510
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 4: Allen to flex on him a little bit.

2511
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I I do think Miami is ready

2512
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 3: for it. Unfortunately, none of the players I think are

2513
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 3: ready for it will be playing in this game. So,

2514
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 3: and I know Buffalo's banged up to the shoulder with Alan,

2515
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna takey I'm with you, guys, I'm gonna

2516
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 3: take Buffalo.

2517
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:16,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Buffalo as well, Buffalo all around. Interesting

2518
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 1: All right? Now we go back to one o'clock and

2519
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 1: the six and ten Jets head to Gillette to take

2520
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: on the four and twelve Patriots.

2521
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 3: Patriots are favored by one and a half.

2522
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 4: Ha haha.

2523
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: Boy, that means they're underdogs by two and a half.

2524
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 3: Not according to you boys.

2525
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will take the Patriots to win. I just

2526
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 6: I think it'll be a slog and points will be

2527
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 6: at a premium. I think turnovers are what kind of

2528
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 6: decide it and probably will set up the majority of

2529
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 6: the points. I'm gonna say Patriots sixteen to six.

2530
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 7: I was also similar score, but Patriots sixteen to nine.

2531
01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 4: Oh, so I'm gonna go bold. Ye, I'm gonna go

2532
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,919
Speaker 4: very different from all of you. I have the Patriots

2533
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 4: twenty seven to nothing in this game against the Jets.

2534
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 4: I think that one team is playing for their coach

2535
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 4: and playing for each other, and I think one team

2536
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 4: doesn't give an f and the team that cares is

2537
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 4: the Patriots. I think that they have a lot of

2538
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 4: guys that this could be their last games in the NFL,

2539
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 4: David Andrews, Matthew Slater, Lawrence Guy potentially, and maybe Bill's

2540
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 4: last game coaching. And I think that they put together

2541
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 4: one more ass, you know, kicking, I said, so, I realized.

2542
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 3: That I did like the emphasis on the clean word,

2543
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 3: but kicking, kicking of the of.

2544
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 1: The Jets punched their asses.

2545
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 4: To send Bill off potentially.

2546
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 3: So I will be taking the Patriots both ways as well,

2547
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 3: twenty to nine. But I'm just curious twenty seven nothing,

2548
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 3: what would that require for a turnover margin in the game. Well,

2549
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 3: so the game I'm going to say plus five.

2550
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 4: The game that I kind of going off of is

2551
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 4: that Detroit game last year where it was right, it

2552
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:03,560
Speaker 4: was twenty seven to nothing, but Bailey's appias.

2553
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like plus five and turnovers that tracks, yeah, yeah,

2554
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 3: a lot of down town six, six failed fourth downs

2555
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 3: and a fumble return for a touchdown in that game, Yeah, exactly.

2556
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 3: It might have been It might have been an interception

2557
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 3: returned for a touchdown too, dugger fumble fumble was uh

2558
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 3: was dugger.

2559
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 4: I just think that there's one offense that's worse than

2560
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 4: the league right now on the Patriots, and it's the Jets.

2561
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with uh Simeon.

2562
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 4: And I think that those guys are playing. Whether it's

2563
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 4: for nobody turns the ball over like the New York Jets,

2564
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, but the defense planet's butt off.

2565
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2566
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: The reason I went, oh, when uh deuce and Alex scores.

2567
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 3: You also have the Patriots going sixteen.

2568
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still might under a little bit. Sixteen nothing

2569
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 1: nothing Patriots at hat tip to the sixteen and oh streak.

2570
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 17: I like it.

2571
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 11: I like it.

2572
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 1: So Patriots win. You guys got the pitch and shutouts.

2573
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy.

2574
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 3: So Homer dot com all on the four and twelve.

2575
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: I know, right, that's right. We believe in the Jets

2576
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 1: snowby damned Hatriots managed sixteen points and what could be

2577
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: an historic game we'll see.

2578
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I like, do you remember these games though,

2579
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 6: Like I don't know. I just these games like that

2580
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 6: that's the last game, But I feel like it'll quickly

2581
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 6: be forgotten and we'll remember the good times.

2582
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it laugh when you want to cry.

2583
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 4: But you also have you know, the draft pick in

2584
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 4: this game too, you know. And there's a lot of

2585
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 4: angles I feel like to this game that are per game.

2586
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 4: That really means nothing, right right, It kind of means

2587
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 4: it's a lot in the same time.

2588
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 1: All right. So pregame ten forty five, possibly a last

2589
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 1: show by Hardy. So I mean this is a historic day,

2590
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: I know, you know, it really is big. Then the

2591
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 1: postgame show four hour extrama extravaganza not really uh, and

2592
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: then we'll be back Tuesday. But we go into our

2593
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: off season schedule of Tuesday and Thursday. We did get

2594
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 1: some emails pleading that we keep it three days a week.

2595
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: Don't forget. Catch twenty two will be every week during

2596
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: the off season as West Crew. So that's your third

2597
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: show and we'll have our emergency podcast when needed.

2598
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 3: Don't worry, we'll be with you maybe Monday at two.

2599
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't miss anything. Okay, see you this weekend.

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