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Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero and Ian Rapped four here in the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network newsroom with some breaking news in the over twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours before the NFL's trade deadline, and one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest names on the trading block now has a

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Speaker 1: new home. We'll take it from here. Rap sheet nice

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Speaker 1: try around the NFL has got this one covered. Dan

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Speaker 1: hands us here with Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith no longer a member of the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 1: sent to the Baltimore Ravens. H This is a rap

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Speaker 1: sheet report and exchange, an exchange for a two thousand,

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Speaker 1: Her source informed of the deal. And yes, this is

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Speaker 1: a around the NFL special trade deadline mini pod here

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Speaker 1: just to break down what just went down. And I'll

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Speaker 1: start with you, Greggy. Roquan Smith, big time player, a

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Speaker 1: big difference maker, and the Ravens are a team that

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Speaker 1: sees a window here that's open and they get aggressive. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I thought is, Okay, the Ravens want

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Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl this year, and it's interesting

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Speaker 1: how they value linebacker maybe more than most teams that

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Speaker 1: that the history that they've had there, and they thought

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Speaker 1: fulfill that legacy that Ray Lewis started really and it

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Speaker 1: just hasn't worked out that way. He's been up and down,

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Speaker 1: and I was curious he they kind of go, how's

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Speaker 1: Patrick Queen goes? And I was curious because I don't

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Speaker 1: really it's hard to evaluate off ball linebackers. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I wonder how he graded in that last Bucks game,

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Speaker 1: they've made this trade to me, But I immediately wondered,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what you think, Mark, Like, is

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Speaker 1: this a long term move you give up a second

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Speaker 1: and a fifth round pick that's eight years of two

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Speaker 1: young players in a second round picks pretty high? Or

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Speaker 1: is it just something where they're trying to get better

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Speaker 1: this year at a position where they feel like they're thin.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a little bit of both,

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Speaker 1: because the Ravens have always been aggressive in these trade

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Speaker 1: deadline situations. But there's no way that I think a

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Speaker 1: team of today now, I mean another team that loves

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Speaker 1: Wilbur Marshall, Brian Lacker at this staff they didn't want

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Speaker 1: to pay. They didn't. But I would just say historically

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Speaker 1: as both a it's this year, it's a team that

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Speaker 1: but also they have to view them as someone that's

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Speaker 1: part of their long term plans at a position they value.

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Speaker 1: Where you've got Patrick Queen, you've got Josh Bindes, but

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Speaker 1: absolutely centerpiece of your defense. And the background with ro

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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, all the next gen stats UH on our

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Speaker 1: He was unhappy in Chicago. UH. If you listen to

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Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Old Boss and the Grave Diggers. Somewhere

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