WEBVTT - How Nigel Farage Won Brexit 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.519 When Nigel Farage told the European Parliament that the UK 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.119 would leave the European Union, they all laughed at him. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.920 Well look who's laughing now, and look who's in our studio. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:20.840 This is Verdict with Ted Cruise. Welcome back to Verdicts 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.560 with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles. We are joined by 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.240 a now unemployed member of the European Parliament, Nigel Farage. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.040 Thank you for being here in Senator Cruiz. I have 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.640 to thank you for not only being a number one 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.040 podcaster in America but also apparently a very good booking producer, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.279 because you brought your friend Nigel alone. Well, and this 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.320 was pure happenstance. So Nigel came and joined the Republican 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.519 conference for lunch, and he was talking to us about Brexit. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.240 He was talking about his incredible leadership and bringing that about. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.920 It was absolutely fascinating. And so I walked up to 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.880 afterwards and said, well, look we're doing this podcast. Can 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.000 you come join us? And boom hereis. I am so 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.240 glad that you were able to come because this is 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.560 going to sound like a very stupid question, but I 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.959 thought in twenty sixteen, the UK votes for Brexit they're 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.280 going to leave the EU. Then for some reason it 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.679 doesn't happen eighteen twenty nineteen now or in twenty twenty 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:18.120 it finally happens. What is the Brexit and even what 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.160 is the European Union? Well, it's a great question, and 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.160 thanks guys, it's great to be here. I you know, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.880 I spent most of my business life before politics working 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.160 for American companies. So I know a lot of Americans, 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.399 a lot of smart, well off Americans, and they've never 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.720 quite got what the European Union was. It kind of 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.480 thought it was a bit like NAFTA, but it isn't. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.679 The European Union is a political union, and a member 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.280 state that joins it gives up its sovereignty, gives up 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.840 the authority of its supreme court to another court somewhere else, 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.520 accepts the fact that most of its laws, rules and 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:58.200 regulations are made somewhere else, and that the electors in 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.080 a general election cannot vote to change any of that legislation. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.880 You effectively become, we became a satellite of this new 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.600 entity called the EU. And of course they've got their 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.120 own flag, they've got their own anthem, and guess what 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.320 the people who run it. The commissioners are not voted 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.880 for but the people and can't be removed by the people. Now, 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.840 this happens slowly, it evolved over time. It was sold 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.519 to us as being this is simple, it's trade, it's 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.600 good for business, just an economic and don't worry your 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.720 little heads about it. It'll all be fine. And you know, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.280 thirty years ago, thirty years ago, I looked at this 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.079 and thought, well the hell, I mean, what did what 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.959 did we fight two World Wars for if it wasn't 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.680 for us to be free, independent, sovereign people. And that 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.200 was where my crusade started. So it was a political 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.080 union and Brexit. I'll tell you what Brexit is in 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.360 one word, independence, you know, a simple as that verile 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.000 as that. There is a kind of parallel over here, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.960 I think, because it's not just that there is this 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.560 fight for sovereignty, this fight for having your own nation, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.320 that's going on in the UK, it's happening throughout Europe, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.600 and it's it's happening here in the United States. Well 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.320 it's the same battle, isn't it. It's actually really interesting 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.240 because you know, the other side call us nationalists. You know, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.720 we're all very narrow and hidden and we hate everybody 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.680 around the world. And the truth of it is that 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.600 actually what's going on here is there is a movement, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.600 a movement of those of us who believe that the 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.160 nation state run democratically is the right model by which 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.639 we should live, and that within that framework we trade 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.040 with each other, we cooperate with each other, we share defense, intelligence, 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.080 and do many other things with each other. And I 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.880 find it fascinating that it's almost like a family of 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:44.200 us coming together who are fighting back against and you know, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.840 it is called globalism. And they want to do away 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.920 with the nation's state. They want us to be ashamed 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.640 of our countries rather than proud of them, and they 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.160 want a massive transfer of power from democracy to bureaucracy. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.120 And the great thing is, the great thing is, and 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.480 it started in twenty sixteen. And let me just say this. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:08.280 We nearly always copy everything you guys do. Anything America does. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.320 We follow good things and bad things, but you know, trends, fashions, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.400 whatever it is, we always follow you guys. This time 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:20.240 you followed us. Brexit came first, the Trump Revolution came afterwards. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.479 And the reason we're sitting here talking about this and 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.840 the three and a half years went by. It is 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:29.800 because the establishment refused to accept the result of the referendum, right, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:34.520 and we have had the most titanic political battle in 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:38.479 our country since the seventeenth century to make sure the 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.400 will of the people actually got obeyed. And you know what, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:46.960 on the thirty first of January at eleven pm, I 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.040 was there in Parliament Square. There were one hundred thousand 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.880 people there. And you know, you guys think the English 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.479 are very reserved, they weren't at eleven o'clock and people 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.440 were cheering and going mad. And we've got you're saying, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.760 perhaps the pine or two was flowing. I think I 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:08.080 was certainly down end of the carpel. But and this 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.720 is a major historic moment. Yes, I don't think it's 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.720 just an historic moment for the United Kingdom. Listen, this 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.119 is the beginning of the end of the European Union. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.840 Do you think this this will lead to other countries leaving? Absolutely, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.160 And with the end of the European Union, we get 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.720 the end of the globalist project. Now, that doesn't mean 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.880 they won't always keep on fighting. They will because you 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.520 will always get you through history, mankind, those that want 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.000 to dominate everybody else. But this, this is a big 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.400 moment in our history. So let's let's stop for a minute, 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.080 and let's let's go back to how this came to 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:47.000 pass um, When when did the UK join the ear 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.680 and how did Brexit start? When when did you arrive 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.600 in the European Parliament? And take us back to the 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.760 beginning of the Brexit movement, not today, but where it 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:03.360 got started. Okay, in eighteen seventy. The Germans, by the way, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.680 I love when I say take us back eighteen seventy, Well, 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:14.920 that's almost modern. Were a pretty old country eighteen seventy. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.760 In the United States, where we say take us back, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:22.919 it's seven eighteen seventy. The Germans invade across the Rhine. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.320 Nineteen fourteen, the Germans invade across the Rhine. Nineteen forty, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.440 the Germans invade across sing A Pan. Now there is 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.240 a very bad joke I'm going to tell you. I 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.520 asked a restaurant her in Strasbourg once, I said, you 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.440 get many Germans there? All? We said, you know, they 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:44.960 pop by once every twenty five years. But here's the point. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.839 Hard to park the tanks, absolutely, but here's the point. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:54.080 You know, this, this endless battle over territory between France 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.280 and Germany led to world wars, led to hundreds of 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:01.360 millions of deaths, and the thinking post war was we 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.840 need to get the French and Germans together round the 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.360 table to break bread. And the truth of it is, 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.919 the more business, the more trade we do with each other, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.800 the less likely we are to hate each other and 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.880 fight each other. So the original concept that we have 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:20.280 a Europe that comes together was absolutely right. Unfortunately, those 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:25.360 innocent beginnings turned into the attempt to build a new state. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.080 Right to build, and they wanted their own military, and 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.080 they now want their own army, they want their own 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.160 air force and all the rest of it. And so 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.480 what they've done is the ancient nations of Europe are 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:42.240 now being consumed, having their identities taken away. The democracy 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:47.480 is taken away. And missus Thatcher, missus Thatcher, who initially 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.080 had gone along with the European project believing that it 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.240 was about she was your version of Ronald Reagan. Sometimes 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.720 absolutely and you know, I mean, listen, when Margaret took 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.160 over the United Kingdom, we were a socialist country. We 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.880 had top rate income tax of eighty three percent. It's 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.120 almost hard to believe the state we got into well, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:10.320 and she explained, then the problem with socialism is eventually 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.720 you run out of other people's money. Absolutely, absolutely, which 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.080 is a message, by the way, Bernie Sanders and some 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.000 American politicians could do to learn. Oh I love Bernie Sanders. 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.440 Why do you love? I want to give some money 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:27.400 to his campaign. Listen, if Bernie is the nominee, then 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.000 you guys are just going to walk it in November 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.439 fifty seven states. We're gonna win Greenland. But but but 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.280 but I will say, God help us if he wins 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.640 in November. Yeah. But the truth is, and we're seeing 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.920 this across the whole of the Western world that the 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:47.480 left parties are going further left right. They delight their 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.160 own echo chamber, right, but actually the middle of our 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:52.880 country is looks at this stuff and says, do you 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.319 know what, We're not having this. So I think Bernie 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:56.839 would be very very well, you know. I actually this 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.000 brings up an interesting point. I want to get to 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.400 something where I think you agree on most of it, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.920 but I think you disagree a little bit on some 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.319 of the particulars, and that is moving past Brexit to 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.920 the Huawei controversy. Yeah, okay, let me just finish off, okay. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.920 In that day eight Margaret Thatcher sussed what the European 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.719 project was. She sussed it, yeah, all right, because the 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.160 European Community was about to change its name to the 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.640 European Union. And Margaret sussed it. She blew the whistle, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.160 and they got rid of her because of it. They 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.520 got rid of it because of it because all the 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.200 big business, all the big banks, and all the big 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.400 money wanted it to go in that direction. And ever 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.439 since she was gone, the Conservative Party in Britain ceased 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:44.240 to be conservative, ceased to be conservative and gave away 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.839 your sovereignty. It's a word you used earlier that I 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.240 think goes really to the heart of what this is about, 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.840 which is who's in charge. And the most fundamental notion 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.560 of the American Constitution begins with the words we the people, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:02.000 because sovereignty belongs to the people. And look as I 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.120 look at at the ear the sense I make a 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.640 Brexit is the British people should decide the laws for 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.480 Britain and not the damn French, and not the Germans 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.920 and not anybody else. And that's that's basic sovereign. That's 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.559 who's in charge, not some anonymous bureaucrat. And of course 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.160 what we haven't even mentioned is we lost control of 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:24.199 our borders as well. So in the early nineties, you know, 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.360 I joined, I started, I hope to start a rebellion. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.800 And the rebellion was against the entire British establishment. It 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.400 was against the Labor Party, it was against big business, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.760 but it was against the Conservative Party. And how far 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.640 out was it at the time, Like when you started it, 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.839 how much of with all due respect of a loon 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.760 did they think you were? Oh, people used to say, 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.360 I don't know what you're smoking, Niger, but I'd like 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:52.439 some of itzy. I campaigned all through the nineteen nineties, 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.559 and I think at many times during that period, you know, 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.719 beginning to look a bit like the patron saint have 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.120 lost causes. But I first got elected to the EU 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:05.200 Chamber in nineteen ninety nine, so nearly twenty one years. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.360 I was there until January the thirty first, and we 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:14.640 just slowly but surely developed momentum and in the end, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.880 in the end, in twenty fourteen, in the European elections, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.520 I led UKIP. We won the election UKIPS the UK Independent. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.959 It was the first times it's nineteen o six that 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.240 a party had won a national election that wasn't labor 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.600 or Conservative. It was a shock wave and David Cameron 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.760 was the Prime Minister and he could see that I 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.920 was destroying his conservative parson, I mean in the country, 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:41.439 because he wasn't their conservative on anything right. And so 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.280 in the end, in the end, in an effort to 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.000 save himself and to save the Conservative Party, he said, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.160 we'll give you a referendums. That's how it came to be. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.520 As I say, we had the referendum, we won the referendum. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.840 I thought it was all done and dusted. I'm all great, fabulous, 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.160 I can get on with the rest of my life. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.079 We then got betrayed again because they didn't give you 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.199 the Brexit that the people voted. They just didn't want 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.040 to deliver it. They didn't want to deliver it. And 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.240 and say then we had to refight the battle again 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.079 in twenty nineteen, which I did. I set up the 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.120 Brexit Party, and within six weeks of founding it, I 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.800 won the European elections and the Conservative Party got less 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.800 than ten percent of the vote, their worst result in 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.160 two hundred years. And the very next morning before the 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.199 results were out, Theresa May resigned as Prime Minister. So 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.360 I can say with some you know, it's sort of 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.640 quite a boast. I suppose that I have got rid 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:39.120 of two British primis, and now we've got and now 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:43.880 we've got Boris. And you know, at the moment he's 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.000 keeping all his promises at the moment the negotiating positions. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.760 So that's good. I couldn't be happier with that. I mean, Nigel, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:56.719 help help help an American understand why Brexit matters to 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.760 the man in the street, why Brexit matters to a 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.559 British shopkeeper, What what's different in your life as a result, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.160 First and foremost, you know, if you believe in your nation, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.400 and if you believe in your flag, and if you 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.800 believe in your identity, and you believe in your history, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.679 and you believe in what your grandparents generation did for 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.280 freedom and liberty, not just in your country but in 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.760 the rest of Europe too, then the desire to be independent, that, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.360 the desire to be free is something ted you can't 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.319 put a price on. You can't put a price on 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.120 now if I'm running a small business, and don't forget 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:33.240 Napoleon called us a nation of shopkeepers. Well, he thought, funny, 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.160 isn't it, which I consider high praise two hundred years 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.920 ago the threat the French thought it was an insult 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:44.000 to say the bridge was thought of entrepreneurs. But if 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.920 I'm running that business, all right, every rule and regulation 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:53.760 that affects me, from employment law to health and safety 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:58.080 at work, to environmental law, whatever it may be, all 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.719 of that law has been coming to me from the 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.880 European Union. And there's no political party I can vote 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.079 for at elections that will change. There's no accountability that 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.680 they can with Brexit. We can have proper fights, proper arguments, 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.880 proper debates about how many people should come into our country, 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.760 what we should do with environmental law. So, actually, if 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.600 I'm that shopkeeper, you mean you actually have democracy? Isn't 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.680 it amazing? Isn't it remarkable? You know? And to think 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.480 to think that, you know, Westminster, that amazing palace of 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:32.160 Westminster that we and call by so many the Mother 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.360 of Parliaments, had given all that away. Well, and Nigel, look, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.600 this is a consistent pattern in Britain. In the US, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.880 leftists hate democracy because when the people can choose, they 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.960 don't choose what the leftists want. So they want an 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:53.600 institution they can dominate of faceless, soulless bureaucrats ye to 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.120 govern and rule. This is about power and who has power, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.880 but also also about their sort of supposed moral authoris 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.520 because they think they're better people than us. Yes, they 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.920 genuinely think they're better people than us. They really better. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.360 They know better how to run our lives than we 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.320 the peasants. Well, this is that's why it comes down to. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.520 When Brexit happened, it was so interesting because Americans loved it. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.360 American conservatives were cheering you on. I mean, we were 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.360 so excited, and I thought, all right, tell us about 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:23.520 your farewell speech. Oh yes, So so I've done two 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.760 farewell speeches, because the first was in twenty sixteen, after 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.760 the referendum, And that was what I That was what 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.760 I got up. I thought, well, maybe today they'll treat 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.200 me with some respect own. Oh I got up and 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.760 five hundred people started booing and jeering, And that was 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.080 what I thought. I'm gonna let it. I'm just going 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.000 to dad a lot today's And that's when I said. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.400 When I came here eighteen years ago, I said to 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.040 you I would lead a campaign to take Britain out 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.200 of the European Union, and you all laughed at me. Well, 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.360 I said, you're not laughing now, oh yeah, that was 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:59.000 But but but the last, the last last speech, which 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:03.120 we knew was the end, properly the end. And I thought, look, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.480 you know, let's let's let's let's leave. Let's go sort 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.040 of a little bit cheerfully. So we had our little 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:16.840 union jacks and were saying goodbye, and the humorless, faceless, 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.640 ghastly bureaucratic woman who was in the chair cut my 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:25.080 microphone off. So you're waving the British flag and it's 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:30.640 it's it's almost like you're holding a cross up to vampire. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.440 because they hate the nation state. They want to abonish 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.200 the nations. Say. Anyway, she cut the microphone off, which 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.920 has never happened to me in twenty one years there 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.480 and we will not cut your microphone off, well not yet. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.560 And she said, oh, you're leaving anyway, take your flags 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.320 and go. And you know something, that's what we did. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.640 Let senator, I want to know from your perspective as 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.920 an American, as an American senator, what Brexit means for us, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.240 because I think we were cheering it on in many 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.680 ways because so many of the frustrations you're describing we 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.480 feel here in America. Look, I think it is a 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.920 powerful statement of sovereignty and of independence. It is shaking 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.040 off the yokes of a tyrannical government that's not listening 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.960 to the people. And you know, I think back to 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.160 when you had the referendum and Barack Obama came over 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.080 there and lectured the British people. He condescended and you 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.480 know what you talk about thinking you're someone's intellectual better. 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.720 Barack Obama, just like the mandarins that run the EU, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.560 believed he was the moral and intellectual better. And I 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:44.680 remember thinking, gosh, that can't be good for the forces 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.879 that want to stay in the EU to have Obama 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.880 condescending and hectoring the British voters. It was the way 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.600 it was. There was a big BBC interview, and it 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.679 was the way he just looked down his nose at 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.200 the country has been your closest friend and ally for 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.560 a hundred years, with whom we've spent much blood and treasure, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:07.800 you know, and been through some tough times and some 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:12.040 good times together. It was shocking. It was shocking. We 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.200 would go to the back of the line if we 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.800 dared to leave the EU and see it and see 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.760 I'll admit it. At the time, so I was rooting 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.800 for Brexit, but I kept my mouth shut at it 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.200 because it wasn't my responsibility. What I said at the 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.119 time is, you know what, this is a determination for 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.160 the British people. If they choose to leave the EU, 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.040 that's a decision of national sovereignty. They have the right 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.679 to make that choice. But who am I to tell 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.080 them how they should decide this. This is a decision 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.320 for the British people. And you know what, we wouldn't 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.240 appreciate Boris Johnson coming over and telling us how to 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.600 run our country, and so we shouldn't. We should show 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.879 you that same respect. It was a big mistake. It 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.960 was a huge miscalculation. Cameron thought it was the absolute 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.720 ace card in the pack. In fact, the British people 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.119 were revolted by Obama and I think he sort of 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.479 added one about one percent to our scores. They were 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.360 quite great. I mean, look going on from here, I mean, look, 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.160 you know, we we're the biggest investor in the USA, 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.200 with the biggest davisas investor in your country. You're the 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:13.200 biggest saversas investor in our country. We share a language, 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.159 all right. I know we sound a bit different, but 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.879 we share a language. Not everyone can have us refined 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:22.440 an accent and were quite and we have an amazing 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.800 shared history. Although there is the complaint from my fair 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.160 lady of why can't the British teacher children how to speak? 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.200 We have shared intelligence. We have been You're the big guys. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.280 But without the two of us, NATO wouldn't even exist, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.359 all right, And going on, there's real work to do 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.600 on organizations like NATO UM and so there's so many 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.480 opportunities now between us. You know, we should be buying 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.520 Levi's jeans and Harley Davison's without tariffs, and you should 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.560 be buying Jaguarmodic cars and Scottish whiskey without charlish. I 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.560 could serious that it's not difficult. You didn't bring any schedule. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.560 I do. But but here's the problem. Here's the problem, 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:06.560 and you touched on it earlier. Despite my being joyous 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.760 at where we are and with Brexit, and I now 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.080 want to go out around the rest of Europe and 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.960 spread the rebellion because I know I now want Europe 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.160 to leave the EU and that's my next. By the way, 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.760 who's next, Well, that depends, that depends on the economics 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:25.680 of it. It could be it could be Italy or 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.840 Greece the next time we have a serious economic downturn 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:31.000 because they're in the wrong currency. The Euro is great 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.280 for Germany. Yeah, it's great for Germany. Not so great 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.200 for Italy because they've got a devalued currency effectively, so 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.760 it's very good for them, setting motor cars into America 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.520 and everything else. Well, I'm also sharing the frustrations of 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.320 the Eastern European. Well I was, and this is so, 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.080 this is interesting. The West of Europe led culture, but 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:53.680 the French has become fanatical about multiculturalism and a whole 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.520 series of very very woke type issues. Listen, these Hungarians 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.440 and these Poles are very traditional countries, very Christian countries, 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.960 very proud of their identity. I mean, goodness me, these 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:09.960 countries have suffered under communism, Nazism, Millions of their people 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.520 have been extermination, so via tanks are a real memory. Absolutely, 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.000 and you know it's only thirty years ago, right that 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:20.960 they broke free. And suddenly you've got bureaucrats in Brussels 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.680 telling them who consider on their High Court that what 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.879 to do about gay marriage and many other issues. So 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.080 you know, you've got the economic North South split, You've 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.120 got the cultural East West split. I don't know who's next. 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.200 All I do know is that the phenomenal opportunities that 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:40.720 we've got to bring back together the English speaking people's 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.640 of the world. I mean, this is what Churchill used 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.879 to talk about, and you know what, he was absolutely 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.399 right then and it's absolutely right now. But I do 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:52.240 fear that Boris Johnson's decision to with our Huawei into 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.359 our into helping to build our new fibers. Way is 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.840 this Chinese technology company. Yeah, it's a Chinese technology but 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.399 here's the point, there's no such thing in China as 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.639 a private company. You know, this is a communist state, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.199 a communist dictatorship. I'd say Boris's decision on Wawi at 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.479 the minute has put things on hold. I mean, for example, 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.520 there is no there is no date in Madari for 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.080 Boris Johnson to come and visit Trump at the White House. 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.919 Now this should this should have been happening very very quickly. 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:26.440 I even worry that with Huawei on the scene, where 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.480 the Congress at the moment would even pass because the 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.119 should be separate. But are they. Yeah, So let me 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.160