1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: When Nigel Farage told the European Parliament that the UK 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: would leave the European Union, they all laughed at him. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Well look who's laughing now, and look who's in our studio. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: This is Verdict with Ted Cruise. Welcome back to Verdicts 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles. We are joined by 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: a now unemployed member of the European Parliament, Nigel Farage. 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here in Senator Cruiz. I have 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: to thank you for not only being a number one 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: podcaster in America but also apparently a very good booking producer, 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: because you brought your friend Nigel alone. Well, and this 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: was pure happenstance. So Nigel came and joined the Republican 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: conference for lunch, and he was talking to us about Brexit. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: He was talking about his incredible leadership and bringing that about. 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: It was absolutely fascinating. And so I walked up to 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: afterwards and said, well, look we're doing this podcast. Can 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: you come join us? And boom hereis. I am so 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: glad that you were able to come because this is 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: going to sound like a very stupid question, but I 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: thought in twenty sixteen, the UK votes for Brexit they're 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: going to leave the EU. Then for some reason it 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: doesn't happen eighteen twenty nineteen now or in twenty twenty 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: it finally happens. What is the Brexit and even what 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: is the European Union? Well, it's a great question, and 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: thanks guys, it's great to be here. I you know, 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I spent most of my business life before politics working 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: for American companies. So I know a lot of Americans, 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: a lot of smart, well off Americans, and they've never 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: quite got what the European Union was. It kind of 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: thought it was a bit like NAFTA, but it isn't. 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: The European Union is a political union, and a member 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: state that joins it gives up its sovereignty, gives up 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the authority of its supreme court to another court somewhere else, 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: accepts the fact that most of its laws, rules and 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: regulations are made somewhere else, and that the electors in 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: a general election cannot vote to change any of that legislation. 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: You effectively become, we became a satellite of this new 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: entity called the EU. And of course they've got their 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: own flag, they've got their own anthem, and guess what 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: the people who run it. The commissioners are not voted 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: for but the people and can't be removed by the people. Now, 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: this happens slowly, it evolved over time. It was sold 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: to us as being this is simple, it's trade, it's 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: good for business, just an economic and don't worry your 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: little heads about it. It'll all be fine. And you know, 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, thirty years ago, I looked at this 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: and thought, well the hell, I mean, what did what 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: did we fight two World Wars for if it wasn't 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: for us to be free, independent, sovereign people. And that 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: was where my crusade started. So it was a political 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: union and Brexit. I'll tell you what Brexit is in 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: one word, independence, you know, a simple as that verile 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: as that. There is a kind of parallel over here, 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I think, because it's not just that there is this 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: fight for sovereignty, this fight for having your own nation, 55 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: that's going on in the UK, it's happening throughout Europe, 56 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: and it's it's happening here in the United States. Well 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: it's the same battle, isn't it. It's actually really interesting 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: because you know, the other side call us nationalists. You know, 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: we're all very narrow and hidden and we hate everybody 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: around the world. And the truth of it is that 61 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: actually what's going on here is there is a movement, 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: a movement of those of us who believe that the 63 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: nation state run democratically is the right model by which 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: we should live, and that within that framework we trade 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: with each other, we cooperate with each other, we share defense, intelligence, 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and do many other things with each other. And I 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: find it fascinating that it's almost like a family of 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: us coming together who are fighting back against and you know, 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: it is called globalism. And they want to do away 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: with the nation's state. They want us to be ashamed 71 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: of our countries rather than proud of them, and they 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: want a massive transfer of power from democracy to bureaucracy. 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: And the great thing is, the great thing is, and 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: it started in twenty sixteen. And let me just say this. 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: We nearly always copy everything you guys do. Anything America does. 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: We follow good things and bad things, but you know, trends, fashions, 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: whatever it is, we always follow you guys. This time 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: you followed us. Brexit came first, the Trump Revolution came afterwards. 79 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: And the reason we're sitting here talking about this and 80 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: the three and a half years went by. It is 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: because the establishment refused to accept the result of the referendum, right, 82 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: and we have had the most titanic political battle in 83 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: our country since the seventeenth century to make sure the 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: will of the people actually got obeyed. And you know what, 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: on the thirty first of January at eleven pm, I 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: was there in Parliament Square. There were one hundred thousand 87 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: people there. And you know, you guys think the English 88 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: are very reserved, they weren't at eleven o'clock and people 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: were cheering and going mad. And we've got you're saying, 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: perhaps the pine or two was flowing. I think I 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: was certainly down end of the carpel. But and this 92 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: is a major historic moment. Yes, I don't think it's 93 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: just an historic moment for the United Kingdom. Listen, this 94 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 1: is the beginning of the end of the European Union. 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Do you think this this will lead to other countries leaving? Absolutely, 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: And with the end of the European Union, we get 97 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: the end of the globalist project. Now, that doesn't mean 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: they won't always keep on fighting. They will because you 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: will always get you through history, mankind, those that want 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: to dominate everybody else. But this, this is a big 101 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: moment in our history. So let's let's stop for a minute, 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: and let's let's go back to how this came to 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: pass um, When when did the UK join the ear 104 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: and how did Brexit start? When when did you arrive 105 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: in the European Parliament? And take us back to the 106 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: beginning of the Brexit movement, not today, but where it 107 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: got started. Okay, in eighteen seventy. The Germans, by the way, 108 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I love when I say take us back eighteen seventy, Well, 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: that's almost modern. Were a pretty old country eighteen seventy. 110 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: In the United States, where we say take us back, 111 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: it's seven eighteen seventy. The Germans invade across the Rhine. 112 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: Nineteen fourteen, the Germans invade across the Rhine. Nineteen forty, 113 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: the Germans invade across sing A Pan. Now there is 114 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: a very bad joke I'm going to tell you. I 115 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: asked a restaurant her in Strasbourg once, I said, you 116 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: get many Germans there? All? We said, you know, they 117 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: pop by once every twenty five years. But here's the point. 118 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: Hard to park the tanks, absolutely, but here's the point. 119 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, this, this endless battle over territory between France 120 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: and Germany led to world wars, led to hundreds of 121 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: millions of deaths, and the thinking post war was we 122 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: need to get the French and Germans together round the 123 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: table to break bread. And the truth of it is, 124 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: the more business, the more trade we do with each other, 125 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: the less likely we are to hate each other and 126 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: fight each other. So the original concept that we have 127 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: a Europe that comes together was absolutely right. Unfortunately, those 128 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: innocent beginnings turned into the attempt to build a new state. 129 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Right to build, and they wanted their own military, and 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: they now want their own army, they want their own 131 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: air force and all the rest of it. And so 132 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: what they've done is the ancient nations of Europe are 133 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: now being consumed, having their identities taken away. The democracy 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: is taken away. And missus Thatcher, missus Thatcher, who initially 135 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: had gone along with the European project believing that it 136 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: was about she was your version of Ronald Reagan. Sometimes 137 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: absolutely and you know, I mean, listen, when Margaret took 138 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: over the United Kingdom, we were a socialist country. We 139 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: had top rate income tax of eighty three percent. It's 140 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: almost hard to believe the state we got into well, 141 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: and she explained, then the problem with socialism is eventually 142 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: you run out of other people's money. Absolutely, absolutely, which 143 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: is a message, by the way, Bernie Sanders and some 144 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: American politicians could do to learn. Oh I love Bernie Sanders. 145 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: Why do you love? I want to give some money 146 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: to his campaign. Listen, if Bernie is the nominee, then 147 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: you guys are just going to walk it in November 148 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: fifty seven states. We're gonna win Greenland. But but but 149 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: but I will say, God help us if he wins 150 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: in November. Yeah. But the truth is, and we're seeing 151 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: this across the whole of the Western world that the 152 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: left parties are going further left right. They delight their 153 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: own echo chamber, right, but actually the middle of our 154 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: country is looks at this stuff and says, do you 155 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: know what, We're not having this. So I think Bernie 156 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: would be very very well, you know. I actually this 157 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: brings up an interesting point. I want to get to 158 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: something where I think you agree on most of it, 159 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: but I think you disagree a little bit on some 160 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: of the particulars, and that is moving past Brexit to 161 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: the Huawei controversy. Yeah, okay, let me just finish off, okay. 162 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: In that day eight Margaret Thatcher sussed what the European 163 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: project was. She sussed it, yeah, all right, because the 164 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: European Community was about to change its name to the 165 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: European Union. And Margaret sussed it. She blew the whistle, 166 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: and they got rid of her because of it. They 167 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: got rid of it because of it because all the 168 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: big business, all the big banks, and all the big 169 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: money wanted it to go in that direction. And ever 170 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: since she was gone, the Conservative Party in Britain ceased 171 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: to be conservative, ceased to be conservative and gave away 172 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: your sovereignty. It's a word you used earlier that I 173 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: think goes really to the heart of what this is about, 174 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: which is who's in charge. And the most fundamental notion 175 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: of the American Constitution begins with the words we the people, 176 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: because sovereignty belongs to the people. And look as I 177 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: look at at the ear the sense I make a 178 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Brexit is the British people should decide the laws for 179 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Britain and not the damn French, and not the Germans 180 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and not anybody else. And that's that's basic sovereign. That's 181 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: who's in charge, not some anonymous bureaucrat. And of course 182 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: what we haven't even mentioned is we lost control of 183 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: our borders as well. So in the early nineties, you know, 184 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: I joined, I started, I hope to start a rebellion. 185 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: And the rebellion was against the entire British establishment. It 186 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: was against the Labor Party, it was against big business, 187 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: but it was against the Conservative Party. And how far 188 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: out was it at the time, Like when you started it, 189 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: how much of with all due respect of a loon 190 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: did they think you were? Oh, people used to say, 191 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're smoking, Niger, but I'd like 192 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: some of itzy. I campaigned all through the nineteen nineties, 193 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: and I think at many times during that period, you know, 194 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: beginning to look a bit like the patron saint have 195 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: lost causes. But I first got elected to the EU 196 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Chamber in nineteen ninety nine, so nearly twenty one years. 197 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: I was there until January the thirty first, and we 198 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: just slowly but surely developed momentum and in the end, 199 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: in the end, in twenty fourteen, in the European elections, 200 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: I led UKIP. We won the election UKIPS the UK Independent. 201 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: It was the first times it's nineteen o six that 202 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: a party had won a national election that wasn't labor 203 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: or Conservative. It was a shock wave and David Cameron 204 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: was the Prime Minister and he could see that I 205 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: was destroying his conservative parson, I mean in the country, 206 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: because he wasn't their conservative on anything right. And so 207 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: in the end, in the end, in an effort to 208 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: save himself and to save the Conservative Party, he said, 209 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: we'll give you a referendums. That's how it came to be. 210 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: As I say, we had the referendum, we won the referendum. 211 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was all done and dusted. I'm all great, fabulous, 212 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: I can get on with the rest of my life. 213 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: We then got betrayed again because they didn't give you 214 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: the Brexit that the people voted. They just didn't want 215 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: to deliver it. They didn't want to deliver it. And 216 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: and say then we had to refight the battle again 217 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, which I did. I set up the 218 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: Brexit Party, and within six weeks of founding it, I 219 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: won the European elections and the Conservative Party got less 220 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: than ten percent of the vote, their worst result in 221 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: two hundred years. And the very next morning before the 222 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: results were out, Theresa May resigned as Prime Minister. So 223 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: I can say with some you know, it's sort of 224 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: quite a boast. I suppose that I have got rid 225 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: of two British primis, and now we've got and now 226 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: we've got Boris. And you know, at the moment he's 227 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: keeping all his promises at the moment the negotiating positions. 228 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: So that's good. I couldn't be happier with that. I mean, Nigel, 229 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: help help help an American understand why Brexit matters to 230 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: the man in the street, why Brexit matters to a 231 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: British shopkeeper, What what's different in your life as a result, 232 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: First and foremost, you know, if you believe in your nation, 233 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: and if you believe in your flag, and if you 234 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: believe in your identity, and you believe in your history, 235 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: and you believe in what your grandparents generation did for 236 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: freedom and liberty, not just in your country but in 237 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: the rest of Europe too, then the desire to be independent, that, 238 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: the desire to be free is something ted you can't 239 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: put a price on. You can't put a price on 240 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: now if I'm running a small business, and don't forget 241 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: Napoleon called us a nation of shopkeepers. Well, he thought, funny, 242 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: isn't it, which I consider high praise two hundred years 243 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: ago the threat the French thought it was an insult 244 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: to say the bridge was thought of entrepreneurs. But if 245 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm running that business, all right, every rule and regulation 246 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: that affects me, from employment law to health and safety 247 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: at work, to environmental law, whatever it may be, all 248 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: of that law has been coming to me from the 249 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: European Union. And there's no political party I can vote 250 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: for at elections that will change. There's no accountability that 251 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: they can with Brexit. We can have proper fights, proper arguments, 252 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: proper debates about how many people should come into our country, 253 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: what we should do with environmental law. So, actually, if 254 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm that shopkeeper, you mean you actually have democracy? Isn't 255 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: it amazing? Isn't it remarkable? You know? And to think 256 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: to think that, you know, Westminster, that amazing palace of 257 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Westminster that we and call by so many the Mother 258 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: of Parliaments, had given all that away. Well, and Nigel, look, 259 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: this is a consistent pattern in Britain. In the US, 260 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: leftists hate democracy because when the people can choose, they 261 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: don't choose what the leftists want. So they want an 262 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: institution they can dominate of faceless, soulless bureaucrats ye to 263 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: govern and rule. This is about power and who has power, 264 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: but also also about their sort of supposed moral authoris 265 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: because they think they're better people than us. Yes, they 266 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: genuinely think they're better people than us. They really better. 267 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: They know better how to run our lives than we 268 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: the peasants. Well, this is that's why it comes down to. 269 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: When Brexit happened, it was so interesting because Americans loved it. 270 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: American conservatives were cheering you on. I mean, we were 271 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: so excited, and I thought, all right, tell us about 272 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: your farewell speech. Oh yes, So so I've done two 273 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: farewell speeches, because the first was in twenty sixteen, after 274 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: the referendum, And that was what I That was what 275 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I got up. I thought, well, maybe today they'll treat 276 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: me with some respect own. Oh I got up and 277 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: five hundred people started booing and jeering, And that was 278 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: what I thought. I'm gonna let it. I'm just going 279 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: to dad a lot today's And that's when I said. 280 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: When I came here eighteen years ago, I said to 281 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: you I would lead a campaign to take Britain out 282 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: of the European Union, and you all laughed at me. Well, 283 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: I said, you're not laughing now, oh yeah, that was 284 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: But but but the last, the last last speech, which 285 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: we knew was the end, properly the end. And I thought, look, 286 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's let's let's leave. Let's go sort 287 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: of a little bit cheerfully. So we had our little 288 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: union jacks and were saying goodbye, and the humorless, faceless, 289 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: ghastly bureaucratic woman who was in the chair cut my 290 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: microphone off. So you're waving the British flag and it's 291 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: it's it's almost like you're holding a cross up to vampire. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, 292 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: because they hate the nation state. They want to abonish 293 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: the nations. Say. Anyway, she cut the microphone off, which 294 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: has never happened to me in twenty one years there 295 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: and we will not cut your microphone off, well not yet. 296 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: And she said, oh, you're leaving anyway, take your flags 297 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: and go. And you know something, that's what we did. 298 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: Let senator, I want to know from your perspective as 299 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: an American, as an American senator, what Brexit means for us, 300 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: because I think we were cheering it on in many 301 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: ways because so many of the frustrations you're describing we 302 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: feel here in America. Look, I think it is a 303 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: powerful statement of sovereignty and of independence. It is shaking 304 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: off the yokes of a tyrannical government that's not listening 305 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: to the people. And you know, I think back to 306 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: when you had the referendum and Barack Obama came over 307 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: there and lectured the British people. He condescended and you 308 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: know what you talk about thinking you're someone's intellectual better. 309 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: Barack Obama, just like the mandarins that run the EU, 310 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: believed he was the moral and intellectual better. And I 311 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: remember thinking, gosh, that can't be good for the forces 312 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: that want to stay in the EU to have Obama 313 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: condescending and hectoring the British voters. It was the way 314 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: it was. There was a big BBC interview, and it 315 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: was the way he just looked down his nose at 316 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: the country has been your closest friend and ally for 317 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: a hundred years, with whom we've spent much blood and treasure, 318 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, and been through some tough times and some 319 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: good times together. It was shocking. It was shocking. We 320 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: would go to the back of the line if we 321 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: dared to leave the EU and see it and see 322 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: I'll admit it. At the time, so I was rooting 323 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: for Brexit, but I kept my mouth shut at it 324 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: because it wasn't my responsibility. What I said at the 325 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: time is, you know what, this is a determination for 326 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: the British people. If they choose to leave the EU, 327 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: that's a decision of national sovereignty. They have the right 328 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: to make that choice. But who am I to tell 329 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: them how they should decide this. This is a decision 330 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: for the British people. And you know what, we wouldn't 331 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: appreciate Boris Johnson coming over and telling us how to 332 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: run our country, and so we shouldn't. We should show 333 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: you that same respect. It was a big mistake. It 334 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: was a huge miscalculation. Cameron thought it was the absolute 335 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: ace card in the pack. In fact, the British people 336 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: were revolted by Obama and I think he sort of 337 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 1: added one about one percent to our scores. They were 338 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: quite great. I mean, look going on from here, I mean, look, 339 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, we we're the biggest investor in the USA, 340 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: with the biggest davisas investor in your country. You're the 341 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: biggest saversas investor in our country. We share a language, 342 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: all right. I know we sound a bit different, but 343 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: we share a language. Not everyone can have us refined 344 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: an accent and were quite and we have an amazing 345 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: shared history. Although there is the complaint from my fair 346 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: lady of why can't the British teacher children how to speak? 347 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: We have shared intelligence. We have been You're the big guys. 348 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: But without the two of us, NATO wouldn't even exist, 349 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: all right, And going on, there's real work to do 350 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: on organizations like NATO UM and so there's so many 351 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: opportunities now between us. You know, we should be buying 352 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Levi's jeans and Harley Davison's without tariffs, and you should 353 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: be buying Jaguarmodic cars and Scottish whiskey without charlish. I 354 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: could serious that it's not difficult. You didn't bring any schedule. 355 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: I do. But but here's the problem. Here's the problem, 356 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: and you touched on it earlier. Despite my being joyous 357 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: at where we are and with Brexit, and I now 358 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: want to go out around the rest of Europe and 359 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: spread the rebellion because I know I now want Europe 360 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: to leave the EU and that's my next. By the way, 361 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: who's next, Well, that depends, that depends on the economics 362 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: of it. It could be it could be Italy or 363 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Greece the next time we have a serious economic downturn 364 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: because they're in the wrong currency. The Euro is great 365 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: for Germany. Yeah, it's great for Germany. Not so great 366 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: for Italy because they've got a devalued currency effectively, so 367 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: it's very good for them, setting motor cars into America 368 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: and everything else. Well, I'm also sharing the frustrations of 369 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: the Eastern European. Well I was, and this is so, 370 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: this is interesting. The West of Europe led culture, but 371 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: the French has become fanatical about multiculturalism and a whole 372 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: series of very very woke type issues. Listen, these Hungarians 373 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: and these Poles are very traditional countries, very Christian countries, 374 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: very proud of their identity. I mean, goodness me, these 375 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: countries have suffered under communism, Nazism, Millions of their people 376 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: have been extermination, so via tanks are a real memory. Absolutely, 377 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: and you know it's only thirty years ago, right that 378 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: they broke free. And suddenly you've got bureaucrats in Brussels 379 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: telling them who consider on their High Court that what 380 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: to do about gay marriage and many other issues. So 381 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, you've got the economic North South split, You've 382 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: got the cultural East West split. I don't know who's next. 383 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: All I do know is that the phenomenal opportunities that 384 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: we've got to bring back together the English speaking people's 385 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: of the world. I mean, this is what Churchill used 386 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: to talk about, and you know what, he was absolutely 387 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: right then and it's absolutely right now. But I do 388 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: fear that Boris Johnson's decision to with our Huawei into 389 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: our into helping to build our new fibers. Way is 390 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: this Chinese technology company. Yeah, it's a Chinese technology but 391 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: here's the point, there's no such thing in China as 392 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: a private company. You know, this is a communist state, 393 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: a communist dictatorship. I'd say Boris's decision on Wawi at 394 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: the minute has put things on hold. I mean, for example, 395 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: there is no there is no date in Madari for 396 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Boris Johnson to come and visit Trump at the White House. 397 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: Now this should this should have been happening very very quickly. 398 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: I even worry that with Huawei on the scene, where 399 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: the Congress at the moment would even pass because the 400 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: should be separate. But are they. Yeah, So let me 401 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: explain this a little bit. Huawei is this giant telecom 402 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: company that is owned and controlled by the Chinese government. 403 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: The Chinese government is investing billions in building a global 404 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: surveillance network, and they come to countries all over the 405 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: world and and and they offer incredibly cheap telecom equipment. 406 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: And it's a little bit like the drug dealer that 407 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: shows up at a junior high and says, just try. 408 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: That's what Huawei is doing. Wow. And the the reason 409 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: they're doing it, they're not doing it to make money. 410 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: They're doing it to install surveillance equipment. Britain unfortunately, just 411 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: announced that they're going to install Wahwei equipment on some 412 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: of their telecom infrastructure. One of the big problems with that. 413 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: So there is this thing called five Eyes. What is 414 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: five Eyes means? Five Eyes is an alliance of five countries, 415 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. 416 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: And we share the most sensitive intelligence and security. So 417 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: if we intercept communications between the Russians and the Chinese, 418 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: we share that amongst ourselves. Now here's the problem. From 419 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: from from US national security perspective. If Wahwei equipment is 420 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: installed in the UK, we've got a serious problem sharing 421 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: our intelligence with the UK. And listen, we are strong 422 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: friends of the British. We will remain strong friends of 423 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: the British. But but if, if, if I hope the 424 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: British government reverses its decisions on Huawei, and if they don't, 425 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: I think we will have to reevaluate the five eyes relationship. 426 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right now, four eyes are better 427 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: than six eyes, right right, you don't want that six eyes. 428 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: That's a great quote. And I'm going to take that 429 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: home with me. I'm going to make sure three British 430 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: media and British conservative politicians understanding hear that message loud 431 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and clear. This is a mistake. It needs to be reversed. 432 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: We love and trust the British. Yeah, but we were 433 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: not interested in having our most sensitive intelligence intercepted by 434 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: the Chinese and read by the Chinese communist governments. You know, 435 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: we have just about a minute left, and I'm sorry 436 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: we haven't even gotten to the most important issue. I know. 437 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: This is the one we've been on the edge of 438 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: our seats about. We've talked about Brexit. We have to 439 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: talk about Mexo. Meghan Marco breaking up your royal fan. Look, 440 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, Harry, he's not the easiest of lives, you know, 441 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: and some tough things happening. He found his way in 442 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: the world. He joined the arm He loved the army. 443 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: He did two tours of Afghanistan. He held some very 444 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: distinguished positions, Captain General of our raw Marines and many 445 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: other things. And then he married Megan. I'm sorry. If 446 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: you're born into wealth and privilege in the royal family, 447 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: you're also born into duty. And they told the Queen 448 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: they wanted to keep the royal titles, go to the 449 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: West coast, to la and make money, not do any 450 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: royal engagements. They wanted to, as we say in England, 451 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: have their cake and eat it. And the Queen, at 452 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: nearly ninety four years old, has put her foot down 453 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: and said God save the Queen, and said, you no 454 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: longer can call yourselves he isn't her Royal Highness. You 455 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: no longer effectively are members of the royal family. You 456 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: are private citizens. Now get on an aeroplane and go 457 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: off to the West coast, go off to Vancouver Island. 458 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: Go off to La because we don't want you here anymore. 459 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: Isn't the Queen truly wonderful? She is so wonderful. I 460 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: was wonderful because we couldn't have we couldn't have our 461 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: monarchy being devalued like and becomes so primiss on a 462 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: personal level, How genuinely pissed do you think they are 463 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: at each other? Oh? Listen, the Queen is old enough 464 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: to have lived through our disastrous short reign of Edward 465 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: the Eighth, who, of course, as we found out later, 466 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: was a Nazi sympathizer and many other things, and the 467 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: Royal family got rid of him, banished him. He lived 468 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: in Paris for the rest of his life. And I 469 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: think she takes the view that Harry and Megan, if 470 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: they stayed in the United Kingdom, would do the Royal 471 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: family immense damage. And for anyone that's watched The Crown 472 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: in a couple of years time, this will be the 473 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: best episode ever. Yeah. Well, I will say though, seeing 474 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: them power around with with with with Hollywood liberals, I 475 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: apologize for the impact of our country. You're welcome to him, 476 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: all right. Well, now that we've at least touched down 477 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: the most important topic, I think we have got to 478 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: let you go. Thank you, Nigel Farage, Thank you so 479 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: much for being here, Senator. Thank you for having such 480 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: illustrious friends and giving the vantage of a US senator 481 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: to the man who just broke the European Union. 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