1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Hi everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Wes Hodkoits. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambele Field West. It's 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: been a short compact week. Thursday Night football is almost 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: here and it's a big one of course, Packers against 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals out in Arizona. Cardinals at seven and no 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Packers at six and one. We know all of that. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: A very important game here for late November. And the 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: latest with regard to the Packers, Uh, the offense is 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: going to be a bit shorthanded, it appears because not 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: only is Davante Adams on the COVID nineteen reserve list, 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: but Alan Lazard has been added to that list as well. Um, 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: A real challenge here now for the Packers on offense 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: when you're going up against one of the best offenses 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: in the league and you kind of think, you know, 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: this is going to be one of those you've got 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: to keep up score type of games without question, and 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: you know in first and foremost, as I'm gonna say 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: every time we address COVID nineteen related items. You hope 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: for the best from a humanistic standpoint for Davante Adams 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: and al Lazard, both genuinely good guys, you hope everything 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: works out in that regard. Shifting back to the business 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: of football, the fact of the matter is that the 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: Packers are pretty depleted at receiver. You also have Malik 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Taylor on COVID nineteen as well. Mark was about the 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: scantling at the time in which we're taping this, not 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: sure if he's going to be activated or not. All 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: of injured reserve. So just looking at terms of who 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: the active guys are on the roster, it's Randall Cobb, 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Econemius st. Brown, you would imagine they'll probably end up 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: activating Jowan were in free off the practice squad for 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: this game. He was active last week as well. It 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: almost in some ways, Mike reminds you a little bit 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: of that playoff game at the end of the fifteen season, 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: where now they lost Randall Cobb in the course of 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: that game, but they were down to basically their last 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: three guys at receiver and James Jones with the hoodie, 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Janis and Jared aber Dais and then nearly one 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: the day game. But it's gonna be about the playmakers 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: in this game. Regardless of whether or not MBS is 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: back or Taylor is activated. They have to be able 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: to rely on their running backs Aaron Jones and AJ 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Dillon not just as runners, as playmakers. They're gonna need 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: Robert Tonyan to step up, Mark you know, you know 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis has gonna go to the last couple of weeks. 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna take a full throated effort there by the 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Packers to make this thing go for them on Thursday night, 49 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: and then obviously the biggest kingpin of all, Aaron Rodgers 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: playing the way that Aaron Rodgers needs to play against 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: the guy. And Kyler Murray, who had twenty four years old, 52 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: really looks like he's going to be one of the 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: preeminent quarterbacks here for years to come. Yeah, absolutely, you wonder. 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean for the Packers, this is one of those 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: things where who's it going to be, right? Who is 56 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: the guy or guys? You hope it's even more than 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: one that steps up and has that kind of big 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: time game. Obviously, Robert Tonyan had a very productive game 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: last week against Washington, got into the end zone on 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: a twenty yard touchdown pass e hu st Brown. We 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: saw him catch a touchdown against Chicago. Yes it got 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: called back, you know, controversial or close call type of 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: penalty thing there. Maybe rookie receiver Marii Rodgers gets more 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: snaps here. We've seen Randall Cobb have a multi touchdown 65 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: game this season. And then we all know what the 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Packers have in the backfield. Aaron Jones, A J. Dillon 67 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: the Packers interestingly, and this is a stat that's almost 68 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: hard to believe, of course, but in the Matt Lafleur era, 69 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Davantae Adams has missed six games and yet the Packers 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: are six and oh in those games. And the reason I'm, 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, asking the question who's it going to be? 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Because you look at how the Packers have won those 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: six games when Adams has been out of the lineup. 74 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: In Matt Lafleur's offense, we saw Aaron Jones have a 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: four touchdown game in Dallas. We saw him have a 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus receiving yards at Kansas City, both 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: of those games in in nineteen. Jamal Williams had a 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing game in twenty nineteen with Davante Adams 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: out of the lineup in the Packers beat the line 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: in prime time, and then you go to last year, 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Tony In had the three touchdown game against the Atlanta Falcons. 82 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Al Lazard had the big game at New Orleans. So 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: it's been always been somebody right in order to be 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: able to come out victorious. So the question is, you know, 85 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: who is it going to be. We'll have to find out. Yeah. 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: The best part about that streak that they've been on 87 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: is I think the narrative going into every single one 88 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: of those games was, well they lost Stavante Adams, now 89 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: what and and it was inevitably somebody always stepping up. 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: The Ala Lazard one, although they won't have Lazard on 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Thursday night, is the one that really hits home for 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: me because I thought it was that game that he 93 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: really showed that this guy can be a guy that 94 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: can be counted on, you know, when the lights are bright. Unfortunately, 95 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: he suffers the cm I in that game and then 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: he misses six games. But it's like I said, it's 97 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna take all hands on deck to beat a team 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: like Arizona. They're the top scoring defense in the National 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: Football League right now. I mean, we focus so much 100 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: offensively what they do, but defensively they're limiting teams as well. 101 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury that style of offense, the air raid, what 102 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: ever you want to call it. There's so much focus. 103 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Even going back to his time at Texas Tech has 104 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: been on the offensive side of the ball. They very 105 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: quietly built a monster on defense though, with you know, 106 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker and as you know, Marcus Golden. They bring 107 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: in you know, J. J. Watt, Chandler Jones has been 108 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: one of the top pass rushers, while unheralded, a very 109 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: productive player for a number of years now. So there's 110 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: just been reactivated as well, reactivate as well, and there's 111 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: just there's so many weapons that you look at. Um 112 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons was a really exciting inside linebacker coming out, 113 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, and you know Xavi and Collins. There's a 114 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: lot that Greeny is gonna have to contend with. And 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, to their credit, Rogers La Fleur, Nathaniel Hackett, 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: they've been able to develop some really brilliant game plans 117 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: over the years. And you know, as as Dean Lowry 118 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of said, you know, and talking with the media 119 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: on on Tuesday, you know, Aaron Jones, a J. Dillon 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: have really stepped up through the course of this season. 121 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: This might be a game where it makes sense for 122 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: those guys to step up again. Yeah. Absolutely. And on 123 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, all Packers are planning 124 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: to be without defensive coordinator Joe Berry, who tested positive 125 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: for COVID, Matt Lafleur announcing late in the day on 126 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: Tuesday that defensive backs coach and passing game coordinator on 127 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: the defensive side, Jerry Gray, will be the play caller 128 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 1: for the defense on Thursday, and obviously a natural choice 129 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: there because Gray has been a defensive coordinator for two 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: different franchises in this league, a total of eight years, 131 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: five years with Buffalo, three with Tennessee. This is a 132 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: this is a seat he has sat in before, right 133 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: and uh and and and a coach who, in a 134 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: couple of short years here has made has made quite 135 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: an impact on this Packers. Oh yeah, I mean you 136 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: could tell, you know since day one when he came 137 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: in through the door, just the way he carries himself, 138 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, the respect, the credibility. Uh. And in the 139 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: production I mean, jire Alexander, you know a lot of 140 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: that credit goes to Jay Are, but you know, he's 141 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: become an all Pro cornerback now adding to that lineage 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: with Gray and some of the work he did in 143 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota and with the Titans. So there's a lot of 144 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: history there in terms of his production with with the 145 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: cornerback position. But it would have always made sense under 146 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: any circumstance for Grading be the guy that gets the 147 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: call if Joe Barry can't be there. But this week 148 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: in particular, I think is really important because now it 149 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: is going to be about a tight window that Green 150 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Bay has to bounce back off a really good, you know, 151 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: successful all around team victory on Sunday and now play 152 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, statistically the best team in the National Football League. 153 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: You need somebody who's been there. He's done that. Gray 154 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: has done it, as you said, in two different stops. 155 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Will be very interested to see what the communication processes, 156 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Like Matt Lafleur said, right now, Gray will call the 157 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: plays inside linebackers coach Kirk Oliva Daddy will be the 158 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: one that will actually relay them to uh Devandre Campbell 159 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: the Packers, you know, Mike linebacker. So there'll be a 160 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: little bit of a you know, telephone game going on there. 161 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: But that being said, uh, this is a unit that's 162 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: played really well together and Campbell's made a lot of 163 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: things work from a communication standpoint this week, this year, 164 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: this is going to be a big stress. It's going 165 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: to be a big challenge. But ultimately, I feel like 166 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: the Packers have to think that they're in a good 167 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: spot right now considering the way they've built defensively over 168 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: the last month. Yeah, and it'll be interesting to see 169 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: on the defensive side as well. With regard to the injuries. 170 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Do the Packers get Preston Smith back for this game? 171 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Do they get Kevin King back for this game? And 172 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: for all the attention on Kyler Murray, and rightfully so, 173 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: he's off to an m v P type start to 174 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: his one season. But you look at this receiving corps 175 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. Mike Goodness West, DeAndre Hopkins, A J. Green, 176 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, and then you're number four is a young 177 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: man named ron Dale Moore who I have not watched 178 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: a whole lot of Arizona this season, but I did 179 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: watch a good portion of their game against the Minnesota 180 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: Vikings early in the season because I believe that was 181 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: week two when the Packers were playing on Monday night, 182 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: so we we were at home watching games on Sunday. 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: And this Rondel Moore out of Purdue. Obviously I saw 184 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: him in the Big Ten as well. If this, if 185 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: this guy's your number four receiver, like, my goodness, you 186 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: you you're a matchup nightmare for for any defense. If 187 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: they want to put all four of those receivers on 188 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: the field, they can, they can spread you out. They 189 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: can still have a running back in the backfield to 190 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: to run the ball out of that spread type of stuff. 191 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: And obviously Kyler Murray himself is a threat to run 192 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: the ball as well. And if they didn't have enough, 193 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: they went and traded a third round pick for Zach Ertz, 194 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, just to get to get a tight end 195 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: if you if you want to have a tight end 196 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: and instead you know, approven Pro Bowl type tight end 197 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: instead of one of those wide receivers. There you go. No. 198 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: But you know the thing is, I just love the 199 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: balance of their offense. A couple of things. It's impressive. 200 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: First and foremost, Murray has been exceptional hundred sixteen passer 201 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: rating this year, seventeen touchdowns against five interceptions, completing passes 202 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: at Mike. I remember back in the day that you 203 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: get to six you percent on your completions, that was 204 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: a good year for a quarterback. It's trending more and 205 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: more towards now. Yeah, he's he's putting. I mean, his 206 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: completion percentages even is even north of Drew Brees, and 207 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: Drew Brees was was doing that. But you know, you 208 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: look at it. The fact is I mean, you know, 209 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: he's scrambling in terms of just running the ball, he's 210 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: doing that less this year, but he's still making place happen. 211 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: These throws. He's you you've been watching of him escaping 212 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: the pocket and throwing across the hash marks but still 213 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: finding receivers. The laws of quarterback have steadily been broken, 214 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: and seems like the last few years with what these 215 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: guys can do running and throwing against their body and 216 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: and Murray exemplifies that. But what I like the most 217 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: about what they've built in Arizona is the wide array 218 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: of weapons that they have. I'd like Christian Kirk since 219 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: he came out of college, and I think you're seeing 220 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: him break out this year. DeAndre Hopkins is the guy 221 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: that gets all the headlines and while he is having 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: another productive season. He's leading them in receptions. They have 223 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: so many different ways that they can go. As you 224 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: mentioned Ron del Moore also becoming a your playmaker. And 225 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: then obviously you know with Chase Edmonds now being the 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: featured back, there are just they have what I think 227 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: it's five guys over twenty four catches this year, four 228 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: guys over three receiving yards. They can burn you in 229 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, a little bit 230 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: of shout out to our sponsors here West Serious x 231 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 232 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need seven 233 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: three six and had Cousin subs. 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All right, Well, 237 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: you alluded to it early in the show that this stadium, 238 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: which is now called State Farm Stadium, I believe it's 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: been the location of some rather wild and wacky Packers games, right, 240 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: and of course I'm talking about the two playoff games 241 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: out there in the Aaron Rodgers era, the two thousand 242 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: nine wild card game the two thousand if team divisional game, 243 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: both just nutty crazy games in different ways in their 244 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: own way. The first one back in OH nine and 245 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: the Packers fall behind by three touchdowns, you know, us 246 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: an onside kick in the middle of this big comeback. 247 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: They get the score tied a couple of different times, 248 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: goes to overtime. Aaron Rodgers has a shot down the 249 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: middle to Greg Jennings for you know, as he said, 250 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: could have been a walk off eight yard touchdown. He 251 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: just misses him, and then of course the sack fumbled, 252 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: the missed face mask and Carlos Dansby's running the other way, 253 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are moving out and the Packers go home. 254 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: And then six years later the Packers are back in 255 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: that stadium in the postseason, and of course that one 256 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: fans probably remember even more. You've got the fourth and 257 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: fourth and twenty bomb to Jeff Janis and then he 258 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: catches the Hail Mary. A couple of plays after that, 259 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: and as you had mentioned, this is all after back 260 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: in the first quarter, Randall Cobb makes an unbelievable catch 261 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: on a deep ball down the field that doesn't even 262 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: count because of a penalty, and he ends up getting 263 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: a punctured lung on the play, and and it is 264 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: taken to the hospital, and he's watching the second half 265 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: from a second half and the overtime after the hail 266 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: Mary from a hospital bed, and Larry Fitzgerald ends up 267 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: with the big play and scores the winning touchdown. So 268 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,479 Speaker 1: now the Packers are going back without their defensive coordinator, 269 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: with two of their top receivers, one of them obviously 270 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: an All Pro, not available to play one of those 271 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: games where you just you just wonder. Okay, So what's 272 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: the crazy thing that's going to happen now? I mean, 273 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: this is why everybody's going to tune in Thursday night, right. 274 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: I have a an epilogue to this whole ring, is 275 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say. So I hope you'll give 276 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: me the the extended Mike as soon as I finished 277 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: my answer to your question, because there are two different 278 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: things I want to go into here. First and foremost, 279 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: there has been some wild stuff that's happened in Scottsdale 280 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: over the years, and I wasn't on the beat yet, 281 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: but I remember that two thousand nineteen games. Is that 282 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: still the highest scoring playoff game in NFL history. I 283 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: wasn't sure. Yeah, it ended up ended up fifth one 284 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: tot five in overtime. The ninety six points, I believe 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: is still the highest. I don't remember anything beating I 286 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: still I believe that's still the highest scoring postseason game 287 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: in NFL in a wild game because of especially all 288 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the craziness that happened in the Packers offense, but the 289 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Packers defense, that might still be the best defense they've 290 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: had pound for pound, you know, since basically Super Bowl 291 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: thirty one, right, I mean, statistically I think it was 292 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: what number two in the league and told defense that, Yeah, 293 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: and yet Kurt Warner through five touchdown passes and only 294 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: four incompletions, and it was it was unbelievable football game. 295 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Nothing made sense about it. But two thousand fifteen is 296 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: a weird one. And I remember technically I guess to 297 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: be January of sixteen, right right. I remember saying to 298 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: my colleague Pete Doherty as we left the stadium that night, 299 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: that was the last game you covered for the press, 300 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: because it was I also missed my alarm the next 301 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: morning and was almost the only time I missed a 302 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: flight I had Pete Doherty and Ryan would calling me 303 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: at four twenty in the morning. We were supposed to 304 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: all drive over there quickly, throwing all my clothes and uh. 305 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I ended up catching the last shuttle to make my 306 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: like six o'clock flight over at the airport. Always stay 307 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: at the airport hotel. That's the key if you're ever 308 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: having to go and be a professional football writer. Getting 309 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: back to the main part of this story, But no, 310 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: but that game. What I told Pete when we left 311 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: is that was a hard game to cover because for 312 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: the first time I felt as as strange as the 313 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: fourteen NFC Championship game was. But I think there are 314 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: a lot of things that worked against the Packers. There 315 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: are a lot of opportunities missed right that ultimately led it. 316 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: The thing that stunk about the fifteen playoff game was 317 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: that the outcome didn't match the story. The narrative of 318 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: the game didn't actually correlate with the result. It's if 319 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: that should have been a game the Packers one, not 320 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: because they played better or not, but because of the 321 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: Hail Marys. The Janice, a guy that caught more yards 322 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: I think in that game than maybe the rest of 323 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: his NFL career, at least close to it. Jared Aberdaris 324 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: having to step up that game in particular is one 325 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: will always stand out to me because it was it 326 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: illustrates to Aaron Rodgers brilliance, but it also, you know, 327 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: kind of show just the craziness that can happen in 328 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Yeah, and I'll and I'll add 329 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: on that too because of because of the wild ending 330 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: with the bomb from the end zone on fourth and 331 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: twenty and then the hail Mary to get the game 332 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: to overtime. It's easy to forget in that game. Also 333 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: when you talk about things that were working against the Packers, 334 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: they're not only losing Randall Cobb early in the game. 335 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: Davante Adams was not in that game because he had 336 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: gotten hurt in the wild card round the previous week 337 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: against Washington, So Davantae Adams was not on the field 338 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: for that game. But Arizona's go ahead scoring drive this 339 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: is when Carson Palmer was the Cardinals quarterback. On that 340 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: go ahead scoring drive, Sam Shields had a chance at 341 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: an interception right by the end zone pylon just missed 342 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't able to haul it in, and then a 343 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: couple of plays later, they score the go ahead touched 344 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: on off a deflected pass. You know, you were you 345 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: and I were sitting basically kind of. I was in 346 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: the row behind you in the press box in that 347 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: end zone. That pass gets deflected and I don't even 348 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: remember which receiver caught it, but um, but the Packers 349 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: play great defense to deny that touchdown, and yet they 350 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: still come up with the touchdown reception off the deflection 351 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: um and uh, you know, the Packers almost won that 352 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: game in as shorthanded as they were in regulation without 353 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: the hail Mary. They were that close to winning that 354 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: game and and uh and moving on in the playoffs 355 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: that year. So just a wild and crazy game. And 356 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: as I said, I'm just wondering, given all the circumstances 357 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: that are going into this one, what wild and crazy 358 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: thing is going to happen on Thursday night out in 359 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: the desert. You beautifully sent me back up like a 360 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: like a volleyball volley right, You got it right back 361 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: to me, Because this is the point I wanted to 362 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: make it. Yeah, this game could be played on Thursday night, 363 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: It could be played on Sunday night, could be played 364 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: on Monday night. The Packers are probably gonna be a 365 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: hurting unit no matter what. You know, they're gonna They're 366 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to get some guys back here. 367 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: But you don't know what Davante and Lazard, whether or 368 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: not where all that situation would Oh, my rant, my epilogue, 369 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: if you will that I wanted to say. And I 370 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: don't even know if if Marv wants me to speak 371 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: directly into the camera over here on my single shot. 372 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: But to the NFL, if you're watching, if you tuned 373 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: in today the Packers on scripted, thank you, first off, 374 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: But secondly, we gotta get rid of these switching time 375 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: zones on Thursday night football. It's got to stop. There's 376 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: seventeen regular season games now. This thing is going to 377 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: January nine. Regardless of the Packers win the rest of 378 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: their games or lose the rest of their games, January 379 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: nine is the Packers finale. We gotta keep these Thursday 380 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: night games in the same time zone. I understand all 381 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: the things that go into a schedule, and I don't 382 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: care that the Cardinals are seven and old Cardinals could 383 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: be oh in seven, Like it's not about all this 384 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: is unfair to the Packers. The fact that guys have 385 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: to turn around on this kind of schedule and then 386 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: have to fly to Arizona. Thursday night football games are 387 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: here to stay. It's just the way life is. They 388 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: make too much money off of it. But we can't 389 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: do this and more. Green Bay went to San Francisco 390 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: on a Thursday night a couple of years back. Remember 391 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: when that was. That was last year. That was last year. Sorry, 392 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: it's been a long years going on in the world. 393 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: But if you want to do Thursday football, fine, But 394 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: the Packers play Soak Division games games in the Midwest. 395 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: They played Cincinnaticks played Thursday night game at Seattle. It's time. 396 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: It's time to keep these Thursday night games in the 397 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: same time zone in my opinion, But I mean having 398 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: to fly out to even if Arizona was coming here. 399 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: I just I just don't think that's right. I don't 400 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: think it's right from a player's safety standpoint. Packers could 401 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: win by fifty, they could lose by fifty either way. 402 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: I I don't feel like this is the right thing 403 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: for the nash Football League. So you're right, some crazy 404 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: stuff is gonna happen, But unfortunately, I don't think all 405 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: of it could potentially be quote unquote natural. Thank you, Mark, 406 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Yeah, I totally agree with you. 407 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: Last thing before we go, we always do talk about 408 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: the keys to victory, so let's let zero in on 409 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: it here. We've talked about a lot of things during 410 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: the week as far as containing Kyler Murray and what 411 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: the Packers need to do, you know, with the shorthanded 412 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: receiving corps on offense and all that. What's the biggest 413 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: thing that stands out to you as this Thursday night 414 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: game kicks off, Dean low reset it. I'm not even 415 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: have an original thought. I'm gonna copy Dean rush lane integrity. 416 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: One thing is you very astutely pointed out, Mike with 417 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke, even with some regards to Justin Fields. You know, 418 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: these guys that have the ability to scramble on you, 419 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: you can't get behind them. You have to be able 420 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: to understand that. Okay, you're trying to get them, you're 421 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: trying to rush him, you're trying to sack them, but 422 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: you also can't get out of your lanes to do 423 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: that because they can hurt you with their feet. The 424 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: dangerous thing about Kyler Murray is with his arm. This 425 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: guy can burn you. Yes, he could scramble for fifty 426 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: yards if he wants to, but he also could hit 427 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: you for an explosive play through the air. Yeah he can. 428 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: He can get out of the pocket and and let 429 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: it rip fifty sixty yards down the field. I mean, 430 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: he's got that kind of arm strength. Were on the 431 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: runoff of one leg, he can let it fly. The 432 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Packers are banged up, especially now on the offensive side 433 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: of the ball, but defensively, the one area that's been 434 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: a strong suit for them here has been the defensive line. 435 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: Kenny's having to work through the ankle right now, but 436 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: for the most part that group is solidified now being 437 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: able to push the pocket, collapse the pocket on Murray, 438 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: I think it is going to be essentially you can't 439 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: let him get into a rhythm because otherwise he's gonna 440 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: put up the yards. Yeah. Absolutely, And and for me, 441 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: if the Packers were at full strength offensively, I would say, Okay, 442 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to get into a shootout, 443 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, bring it on Aaron Rodgers. Maybe can you know, 444 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: can can win a shootout here against Kyler Murray without 445 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, without Al Lazard. I'm just I just don't 446 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: think the Packers want to get into that kind of game. 447 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: I think the Packers and I'm not saying, you know, 448 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: you you play Dick Bennett basketball here against the Arizona Cardinals, 449 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: but you but but I don't think you can. I 450 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: don't think you can go into this game thinking, Okay, 451 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: we're just we're just gonna let it rip and and 452 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: try to outscore him. I think the Packers need to 453 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: be able to run the football, control the clock, limit 454 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: limit the number of possessions that that defense is gonna 455 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: have to chase Kyler Murray around. But at the same time, 456 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: obviously you've got to put points on the board. Aaron Rodgers, 457 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: this is a This is a great This is a 458 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: great quarterback matchup. Obviously, a three time m v P 459 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: against a guy that you know at some point is 460 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: probably going to win an m v P, whether it's 461 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: this year or some other time. But Aaron Rodgers has 462 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers has to be the best player on 463 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: the field, both in terms of the plays that he 464 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: makes with the personnel that he has, but also in 465 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: how he just he has to take command of the game. 466 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: In terms of this is this is how the offense 467 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: is gonna run. We're gonna be efficient, We're going to 468 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: do what it takes, and we're not going to have 469 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: to score forty points in order to win this. This 470 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: is this is where this is where Aaron Rodgers has 471 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: to essentially control the football game in my mind. And 472 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: these are where the five star chefs really separate themselves, right. 473 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not you may not have your fla minon, 474 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: you may not have all the things that you need 475 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: to to have your typical you know, thousand dollar five 476 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: of course meal, but you do have weapons yet in 477 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: this offense, and Rogers has to find ways to utilize them. 478 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: And there's been so many times, Mike, I've been covering 479 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: this team for ten years, you've been doing it for 480 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: fifteen where you've seen Aaron Rodgers with a depleted resources 481 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: or not having his top receiver have to find ways 482 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: to make things work with the other guys in the room. 483 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: And there's a reason why since April they've been having 484 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, more than what It hasn't just all been 485 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: Davante Adams. They've been developing these young guys as well. 486 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: You have to get the job done with the guys 487 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: who are available come on Thursday night. Yeah, well it 488 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: should be. It should be a fun one to watch, 489 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And with that we will call 490 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be 491 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 492 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: and everything with regard to Thursday Night's big game. We'll 493 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: have it all for you on Packers dot com for Wes, 494 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: I am Mike, Thank you for tuning and everybody, we 495 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: will see you next time.