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Speaker 1: And we're back.

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Speaker 2: It's Sauce on the Side with me Gandhi. I'm the

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Speaker 2: co host of The Officer in morning show, but now

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Speaker 2: I have my own podcast. Andrew, in your opinion, how

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Speaker 2: long do you think I should introduce myself that way before?

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Bitches? Is my podcast?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I would stop it now?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Should I start it all over?

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Speaker 3: I know we're already into it.

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Speaker 2: Next episode, next episode, You're not gonna find out who

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 1: Just rolling.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited though, because today we have one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite comedians who has a very interesting story about

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Speaker 2: where she is in her life and how things have

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Speaker 2: changed for her since she initially started out as the

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Speaker 2: Queen of mean.

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Speaker 1: I said, we just get to it, Lisa Lampinelli.

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Speaker 2: So, Lisa, if you don't know which I don't know how,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't know who she is. But in case you don't,

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Speaker 2: she is a Would we call you a former comedian?

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Speaker 4: No, I would say retired insult comic.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hired?

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Speaker 4: Do not do that anymore? Oh I don't. I'm just

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Speaker 4: not a comedian anymore. But I am funny in real life.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes hilarious.

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Speaker 2: I love the Insult, Comics, Stuff Life Coach, Grammy nominee.

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Speaker 2: The list goes on, and I'm so thankful that you're here,

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Speaker 2: So thank you for being part of my podcast.

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Speaker 4: Of course, how random was that? I was like, I

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Speaker 4: think I just commented on one of your posts and

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Speaker 4: you were like, hey, you want to come on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what else have I got to do?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you have a ton of stuff to do. However,

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Speaker 2: the whole point of this podcast, so it's called Sauce

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Speaker 2: on the side because my Instagram name is baby Hot Sauce,

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Speaker 2: and this is all of the stuff that I want

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Speaker 2: to do that we don't really do on the big show. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I love comedians, and I wish we did more

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Speaker 2: with comedians. Oh cool me hair, And You've always been

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Speaker 2: one of my favorites all maybe intern back in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: I specifically remember when you would come in. I would

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Speaker 2: get so excited because I knew you were going to

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Speaker 2: roast everybody.

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Speaker 4: Everybody that Elvis he let me go off. Those were

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Speaker 4: in the days when you could oh yeah and everyone

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Speaker 4: such and such a thing, roast me and we'd be like, Okay.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. Yeah. So I was with two you

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Speaker 2: guys named Dave and Jimmy at the time, and you

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Speaker 2: that all of us always wanted to. Yes, we couldn't

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Speaker 2: And then whenever it came to me, I was like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, actually I decided like three years earlier that

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Speaker 4: I was like, when can I save? When can I

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Speaker 4: It sounds is going to sound pretentious, but it's like

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Speaker 4: And it was before all the cancel culture stuff happened. Lucky, lucky,

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Speaker 4: Thank god. I was just like literally canceling myself before

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Speaker 4: I could get canceled. But point, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: That is a huge deal, yea. So it's good that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like anything else, you know, It's like I

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Speaker 2: that that's one of the biggest downfalls of people who

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Speaker 4: you know that. I mean, I'm lucky. I mean I

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Speaker 4: Wow, it takes a long time, Like there's rarely stuff

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Speaker 4: I may have to start a podcast on higheartmedia.

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Speaker 4: You're working like twenty four to seven. And also with women,

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Speaker 4: No no, But you worked NonStop.

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Speaker 4: Well, And I literally you didn't have to push me

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Speaker 4: he's just saying, hi, we miss you, and she goes, okay, like,

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Speaker 2: At a lot of crazy things happen. I think a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still we live through that.

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Speaker 4: Sadly we might have to live through it again. Oh,

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Speaker 4: Oh, I just remember, I mean I love Debbie Gibson,

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Speaker 4: It took me months to recover.

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Speaker 4: When it's like a group of people, the ones who

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Speaker 4: So I'm always hammering them. And I'm like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 4: Why are you focused on them? But I try to

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Speaker 2: I mean I get it though. When you make somebody laugh,

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: You came in and I'm like, you had one little

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Speaker 2: you cannot make fun of them, but they're okay with

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Speaker 4: unique take. So that's great, that's unique. I mean, yeah,

435
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 4: her mind works different than everybody else's I've ever heard.

436
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, you have to have a unique

437
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 4: take on a subject that is common to people, or

438
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,679
Speaker 4: you have to just talk of start the kernel starts

439
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 4: with your life. What is unique to you? And it

440
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 4: sounds so basic, but I'm talking about unique, not like like,

441
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 4: for instance, it would be not enough for a sixty

442
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 4: two year old like me to go up and say,

443
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 4: both my parents are dead. Well pretty much most sixty

444
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 4: two year old's parents are dead. What's deeper than that?

445
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 4: What's more unique than that I bought the house that

446
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 4: I grew up in? Could be get some sentimental reasons? Okay,

447
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 4: as you not as common but not unique. What's underneath there?

448
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 4: The house is way beneath my means and every time

449
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 4: people come over I have to give them apology tour

450
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 4: and tell them how rich I actually am. So that's

451
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 4: a unique thing to me, and that would be a

452
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 4: good subject for me to tell a story about. But

453
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 4: I think just for the average person to go what's

454
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 4: interesting and unique about me is a nice little jumping

455
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Speaker 4: off point.

456
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm asking for a friend, you know, it's really

457
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: tough even for us to navigate. What can we laugh at?

458
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 2: What are we not allowed to laugh at? People will

459
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: let you know really quickly or apparently you're not allowed

460
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: to laugh at anything, anything, nothing.

461
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 3: Everything's aging yourself. You can't. Everything's ageist.

462
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, these people just you can't make fun of anything.

463
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: You can't and you can't just have a preference anymore.

464
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 4: Either.

465
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to say I actually prefer oranges to apples.

466
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 4: You can't because you're racist against.

467
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: It's like, how dare you? You're a fruitist? You you

468
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 2: choose this orange over this apple?

469
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

470
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: Could you? I love apples?

471
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 1: Like this has nothing to do with you.

472
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, you stop inserting yourself. It's bizarre.

473
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 4: And by the way, you'll never win. No one's ever winning.

474
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 4: Mother Teresa would be called the sea where today if

475
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 4: she's trying to tell lepers they're not good enough. Yeah, like,

476
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 4: there's just you cannot win. So you have to just

477
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 4: go look in the mirror at the end of the

478
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 4: night and be like, did I do my best? And

479
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 4: if not, do better tomorrow.

480
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 3: But we're never gonna be perfect.

481
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 4: Nobody ever works on anger or despair or some gossipy

482
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 4: thing or whatever, and does it perfect?

483
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 2: You're making me question everything about myself.

484
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 4: I just think we're always doing the best we can.

485
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean it's gonna be forever, but it helps

486
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,479
Speaker 4: us judge people less because the poor thing is just

487
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 4: doing what they can, but we're just it's psch so hard,

488
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 4: you know, really it takes because also it keeps you

489
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 4: in suffering, Like Buddha, wasn't it Budo?

490
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: It was like, pain is.

491
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 4: Inevitable, suffering is optional. So if I'm like, oh, my

492
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 4: friends know me, and you know, they didn't say hi,

493
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 4: and I just looked they were enthusiastic enough at my house,

494
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: that might feel painful. Oh I feel snubbed. I'm sad.

495
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: The suffering comes in when I can't let it go

496
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: and I don't say they did the best they could.

497
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 4: So I think it's just a lot of that, So

498
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 4: why keep myself in suffering?

499
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: No, you're right, I mean, and we talk about this

500
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: all the time. To your point, you can't control anybody

501
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: but yourself. You can't control a situation, you can't control

502
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: what happens, but you can't control how you react to it, yep,

503
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: which is definitely something I try to work on. But

504
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: every now and then my reactions are like, shut the

505
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: fuck up.

506
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: Of course it's no, but I think the reactions honest

507
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 4: and earned because of our histories and our life experience.

508
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 4: And then it's going, oh, I wonder why I did that?

509
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 4: And literally I go to this place in uh, Massachusetts

510
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: called Cropollu. It's a meditation and yoga place.

511
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 2: And they have one Massachusetts people alive.

512
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 4: Well, no, it's in the Berkshire, so they're they're happy there.

513
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 4: So their motto is, and it always stuck with me,

514
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 4: notice without judgment, because if we go, why did I

515
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 4: do that? I'm so bad, I'm so damaged. Why am

516
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: I such an a hole? I hate myself? Then you're

517
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 4: going to do it again, go huh, get curious why

518
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: did I do that? And then you let it go.

519
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: And I know you said you gave up a life

520
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: coaching thing, but I want to be so good at

521
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: doing it right now.

522
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: I kind of in my comedy class even we do

523
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 4: a lot of life lessons and not they don't know it,

524
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 4: but I sneak a lot of that stuff in because

525
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 4: I'm like, like, what notice, Like I go, notice, if

526
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 4: you haven't raised your hand yet, you don't do anything

527
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: about it. But notice, if you don't ask a question ever,

528
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: you might want to see if you could challenge yourself.

529
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 4: Notice if you're the one who's always asking questions, monitor that.

530
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: But that's going to help them not be an a

531
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: hole to a booker and call them fifty times, or

532
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: you know, Instagram follow everybody and take it personally. When

533
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: Shane Gillis doesn't get back to you, you know, so.

534
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: Speaking, you're speaking my life right.

535
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: Now, get back to me.

536
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: Oh he'll call you back. Come on, man, I have never.

537
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 4: Done so many things people assume I've done, you know,

538
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 4: And I was just you know, I don't favors. I like,

539
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: really don't do fancy stuff. I drive into the city

540
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: at least twice or three times a week for class

541
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: or whatever. And I do start laughing, going, I was something,

542
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 4: I'll go look at that. I used to stay at

543
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: that freaking peninsula. I used to do this I do,

544
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: and it cracks me up. It feels not like a loss.

545
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: It feels like that was some cute stuff.

546
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: Well it's not a lot loss. You still are this person.

547
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: Your life has just changed to what you wanted to

548
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: change it to.

549
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 4: Well, and so it happened to you.

550
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: It happened because of you.

551
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: Well, and I value what I value.

552
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: I value very tiny things, like the things that to

553
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 4: people seem very small. I have a very small life.

554
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: So has this affected your dating life, this new outlook,

555
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: the new change?

556
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: Oh I care about it at all? Are you?

557
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: No?

558
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 4: I hit fifty and I we got divorced. I was

559
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: good divorced. We sayed really good friends. I introduced Jimmy

560
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 4: to his new wife, and I went to the wedding.

561
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 4: There's nothing more fun than going to a wedding and

562
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: not getting married.

563
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, wedding and I never want to get married me neither. Yeah.

564
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: But I think I was able to take like a

565
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: few years ago, do I really want a relationship? And

566
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, I don't have any desire. And I

567
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 4: think the reason is because I had such codependency. I

568
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: first little cute like grammar school boyfriend at twelve and

569
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 4: almost didn't have any a loneliness un till I was fifty.

570
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so that's bad.

571
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: That's usually codependent. I work on it a lot. I

572
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 4: went to codependency rehab week at this rehab place in

573
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: Pennsylvania to figure out, like why I need somebody all

574
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 4: the time. So luckily that helped shake it loose, and

575
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 4: the non accountability to a single to a singular person

576
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: feels free right now. And she's like, then, if it's

577
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: supposed to happen, it well, relationship, Well, I think the

578
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: problem is, like I honestly think I'm so bad at

579
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: dating and stuff. If I ever date again, like because

580
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to yet, but say I hit seventy

581
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know what, this will be cute? Well,

582
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to say to the person I suck at this.

583
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: I'm really bad at dating. I don't know how to

584
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: go slow. I get super invested fast, Like what do

585
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 4: you even do?

586
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: Like how with lesbian speed?

587
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably? Okay, yes, yes, But you know what's crazy?

588
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 4: Ever since I started like saying, you know what might

589
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: happen when I'm seventy, it's for the first time in

590
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: like seven years, now I'm like, that guy's cute, but

591
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: it's always someone completely inappropriate, So at least I know

592
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: there's still something going on in there, you know. I'm like, no,

593
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 4: you're too old for zach Efron, No, you're too old

594
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: for Jeremy Allen White.

595
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: No, but at least it shares up to these days,

596
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: no way.

597
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: But that's shared.

598
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: You can do what you want to do. I read

599
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: a little article recently, and I wish I could cite

600
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: it at this moment because I don't want to get

601
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: something wrong. But I believe that the happiest subset of people, No.

602
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 4: You're right, I know what you mean.

603
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Or women when we were single yep, over fifty five.

604
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love that.

605
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: And what did you figure out that we don't know.

606
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: That your parents get rid of I think when you

607
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: get your divorce or your husband dies. I always said,

608
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: I used to say my act there's nothing better than

609
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: the dead husband, because it proves you're cute enough to

610
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: have attracted someone and rope them into marriage. But then

611
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 4: you don't have to live with somebody. I love wandering

612
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: from room to room of this house and going, oh

613
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: my god, I could do whatever I want.

614
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: Walk around naked, but whatever.

615
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's what I noticed this morning too, because

616
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 4: somebody brought up walking from the bathroom to their bedroom naked.

617
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, I'm the only one in

618
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 4: the house and I literally have to be clothed.

619
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: All the time, just in case there's a fire. I

620
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: will not God forbid.

621
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: That's why I have to tell when I'm dating. When

622
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: I'm seventy, I have to tell the guy like no

623
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: nakedness in the house. No one needs to see your

624
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: ugly as.

625
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: I have that rule as well. No no complete nakedness

626
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: like on the couch, thank you furniture.

627
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: Well, we were raised so modest, like my parents are Italian.

628
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: I know my mother was probably I mean super catholic,

629
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: freaked out about the idea of even sex. I was

630
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: such a late bloomer. I don't think I made out

631
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 4: till I was like twenty one, and that's it, like

632
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 4: made out excellent, and I mean making out the funnest

633
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: stuff in my opinion for sure. But yeah, it was

634
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 4: a late bloomer twenty one and sure made up lost.

635
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: Those stories make me laugh too when I'm like was

636
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: that me? But I'm like, wait, I always had safe sex.

637
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 4: I was always super responsible. I was never like nasty

638
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: to anybody or whatever. I have my little horror phase.

639
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 3: Why not?

640
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: So now when you're hanging out with all these people

641
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: that you said, you know, you're hanging out with younger

642
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: people and you're watching them make these mistakes.

643
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I get so mad.

644
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: Do you just get it? Or do you what are

645
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: you doing?

646
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: I literally know who can take the hard questions. So

647
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: I have a friend Bobby. He's thirty two, I think,

648
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: but him he can handle hard questions like if I'll

649
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: see him sort of hiding the grinder thing or not,

650
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: you know, hinge or whatever they'd use these days, I'll

651
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: be like, you, you don't have to hide that. For me.

652
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: I had my face too. It was a lot of fun.

653
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: You're safe. Maybe just ask yourself why you're hiding that

654
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: for one of your best friends. Sure, it's really interesting.

655
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: So let's take it back to what we were talking

656
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: about before. You're on the Celebrity Apprentice. Here comes Abrio

657
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: Da telling you I'm dating Junior. How do you handle

658
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: that he's married? You want to give her all of

659
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: this advice. Were you like, bitch, run what are you doing?

660
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Or were you like, okay, cool?

661
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: I think at the time, I was like so fascinated

662
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: by the story.

663
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: And I was still I still am I am too, and.

664
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: I was exhausted, so I was like, okay, well, like,

665
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: don't think that's what's going to keep you on the show.

666
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: We still have to work hard. So I'm still like

667
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: a task master, you know. But I remember then Trump

668
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: Junior at the time, Like you always get a signed

669
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Speaker 4: to like one of the sons or daughter to like

670
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: mentor you. So mine was Junior, And I remember going

671
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: out to dinner, Oh my god, him and his wife

672
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: and she was pregnant, and I was like, oh my god,

673
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: you just have to get through this. But I sort

674
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: of thought Aubrey might go a little unhinged and come

675
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: out with it, and she did.

676
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: And when it was time, she was like boom.

677
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: But let me tell you something about Aubrey O day.

678
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: And I'm not even kidding about this. There was no

679
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: one other than Pen and Adam. Pen and Adam are

680
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: like geniuses, They're just certified geniuses. She was smart as

681
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: f She was the smartest person on that show other

682
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 4: than those two. So I don't love that people write

683
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: her off like that. And we're not friends or anything,

684
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: but like, she was so smart and strategic and worked

685
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: so hard in that show. So I found it very

686
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: sad that like she's reduced to her least smart moment, right,

687
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: And that's the thing too about it. We always reduce

688
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: someone to their most horrible moment.

689
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh God forbid, people find out my most horrible moment.

690
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 4: People know most of mine. Can I talk about them

691
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: and stuff? I'm like, there's a lot of shame maybe

692
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: if somebody just writes you off for one thing.

693
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: We say all the time, good people do bad things.

694
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: It happens, and bad people can have moments where they

695
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: do good things. It happens. You can't just paint everybody

696
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: with this one brush dodge strokes because we all have layers.

697
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: So everybody's kind of okay till they're not, and then

698
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: you assess if they're okay enough to stay in your life.

699
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: I love you, and let's talk about your comedy class

700
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: real quickly, because this is something cool that you're doing.

701
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: You a very seasoned comedian. You've done roast on Comedy Central.

702
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: You did, I did Radio City, Carnegie Hall. I mean

703
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: it was pretty bad. Yeah, Cat, I gotta say, there's

704
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: nothing that I left undone.

705
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: And now you are teaching other people how to potentially

706
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 2: do the same thing. Do you think you can teach funny?

707
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: No? I think you could. No, you cannot.

708
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: I told like, let me just give your money back round.

709
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: No, I tell them right off, I go. If you're

710
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: not funny, you can still be entertaining and be a storyteller,

711
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: which there's really good storytelling things like the Moth and Risk,

712
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: and so you have to have that factor to be

713
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: a star in my opinion. But I can help you

714
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: find your voice. You tell them this, Yeah, I don't

715
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: like I can't no, no, I mean, I would never

716
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: say to somebody you're not funny, but I would say

717
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: I will. I can't teach anyone in this class to

718
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: be funny, but I can help you find the voice

719
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be communicating in, and then you have

720
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: to see where it goes and find your audience. There's

721
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: so many people who started off not that great as

722
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: a stand up and they're hugely famous as you know,

723
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 4: Broadway people or as hosts of on SNL, writers for SNL.

724
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: They make so much more money and have such a

725
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 4: better career than a lot of stand ups who are

726
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 4: still struggling. So these writers have a good career. So

727
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: if somebody ends up a writer, that sure ain't a

728
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: bad thing.

729
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: Have you seen any of your students flourish into something

730
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: that you're like, oh shit.

731
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: There's a couple in the one Now I teach one

732
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: at this place called music Theater of Connecticut and Norwalk.

733
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Speaker 3: There's a couple there.

734
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: I got my eye on. Who knows what's gonna come

735
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: out when these people start being who they are.

736
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: So if people want to sign up for your class,

737
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: how would they do this?

738
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

739
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're going to start a new one at

740
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 4: Music Theater of Connecticut, so they should go just go

741
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: to that site and look for it. And I'm doing

742
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: a new one in a one day workshop on March

743
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: thirtieth about how to kind of find your funny voice

744
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: and compressing a six week class into one day. It

745
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: won't be horrendously long. It'll be like eleven to two

746
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: and then a little break and then till five. They

747
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: could go to playoffs on park this website and honestly,

748
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: like it's limited to twenty five people. We got way

749
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: too many people last class and we had to turn

750
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: people away. But it's kind of fun. It's like kind

751
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: of fun to just go, Wow, this is a nice

752
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: stage of life I'm in. Yeah, you might have to

753
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 4: take it. There's nothing like learning. I never knew this

754
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: in my life.

755
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: So retirement is pretty great.

756
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: I mean now it is.

757
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah you got there. Yes, we're getting there, and slowly,

758
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: but surely. I'm sure i'll have a meltdown someday, but

759
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: know it's like on the right track.

760
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: Thank god, I love it.

761
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm really proud of you and everything that you've accomplished. Amazing.

762
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Thank you.

763
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: You're so sweet to reach out. This was really fun.

764
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad you came in to do it.

765
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: Of course, it was like, there's no way.

766
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 4: She's got ship, she said, Oh she said, yes, now

767
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 4: I gotta have her. Yeah.

768
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm glad you did this, so thank you. I

769
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Time is time is important.

770
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for giving me some of yours.

771
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: I love you all.

772
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: And by the way, yes, everyone should follow me on

773
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: just Instagram.

774
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 3: I hate Facebook.

775
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: I don't do it. I never have Lisa Lampinelli. If

776
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 4: you can't spell it, you don't deserve to follow me. No,

777
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: but to all the comedy class stuff will be linked.

778
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: There, oh perfect, and we will when we post this,

779
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: We're going to make sure that all of that information.

780
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

781
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: Of course you're the best.

782
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: I love you Lambinelli on Instagram, and we'll make sure

783
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: that you get all of her websites to go and

784
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: sign up for a comedy class.

785
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: Yes.

786
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: Thanks, Lisa, thank you, mama.

787
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Speaker 1: All right, So Lisa Lambinelli, did you have a good time? Andrew?

788
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: I love Lisa lamp Andelli.

789
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: I do too.

790
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: I did not know much about her other than that

791
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: she used to just be called the Queen of mean

792
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 3: and just was known for her roasts. But to see

793
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: her growth as a person, it is such an incredible

794
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: journey and she is so inspiring.

795
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm telling you should be hype ban just walk

796
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: around saying nice things about people, because that was a lot.

797
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

798
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: No, I was really just looking forward. Yes, I liked it,

799
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: that was all.

800
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: No.

801
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: I just I would have a five page book review.

802
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I just really loved that interview so much.

803
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 3: You guys have such great chemistry.

804
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. I think we should convince her to do.

805
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: A podcast with us.

806
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 3: I completely agree, like.

807
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: Her own podcast, not with just the two of us,

808
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: you know, like her own things.

809
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Lisa Lampanelli says she's sorry, like that would

810
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 3: be funny, and then she could just go over roasts

811
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: or just like dissect pop culture moments.

812
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: I see, here's the thing.

813
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: I loved her as an insult comic, as the Queen

814
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: of mean. I thought she was so freaking funny. I

815
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: know we'd already talked about it, but whenever she would

816
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: come in, I would just wait.

817
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: For it, like, yeah, what was she gonna do?

818
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

819
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't want her to be sorry about anything. I

820
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: want her to just like balls to the wall whatever

821
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: she says, and does you mean she says whatever she

822
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: wants to say?

823
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: True, I'm a fan.

824
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm a fan. But let's move on to things we

825
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: are not fans of.

826
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: Done?

827
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: Shall we do the burn Book?

828
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: Why don't we become the roast comics?

829
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Now for the burn Book? I ask you, Andrew, because

830
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: you've had quite a week or two, is there anything

831
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: that you would want to put into the burn Book?

832
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to burn people every time. I'm happy

833
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: to have others do the burning.

834
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: Uh In the burn Book? This week, I am going

835
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: after people who have their read receipts on. I don't

836
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: understand it. I am confused by it. I think it's

837
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: the weirdest move you could make, Like why are you

838
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: sitting at your phone and then pressing send and then

839
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: looking for the acknowledgment see when it's read and time stamped,

840
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: and being like that's a normal non psychotic move that

841
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: is extremely psychotic.

842
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: No, it's I love it. You know I love it.

843
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: I wieled it.

844
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: Because you're petty about it. You can turn it on

845
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: for your own reasons and you know exactly what they are.

846
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: I turn it on so that people know, yes, I

847
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: read it, and also no, I'll not be responding to this.

848
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: I think it's an important message.

849
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Some time. Silence is the loudest thing you could slap

850
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: somebody with. Don't ever wonder did she or did she not?

851
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't want people to doubt it. I need you

852
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: to know I did, in fact see it, and I

853
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: will not be acknowledging this.

854
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: Reader. Septs are psychotic behavior. I'm so sorry. What you're

855
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: doing is like a next level like a mind hunter

856
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: type thing, Like I'm that's psyche. I don't know, but

857
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: you know I certainly is not.

858
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: It's called being direct without being direct.

859
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 4: See.

860
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: I think people who hide behind just the regular old

861
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: delivered are kind of chicken. Your chicken.

862
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it's chicken. It's just like what

863
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: is causing that in you to look at every text message,

864
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: see when it's read, and then obsess over it. Because

865
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: it's obsessing well.

866
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't obsessed about other people when they read it.

867
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 3: I know, because your reader seats aren't on for everyone.

868
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: It's on for a very select few people who you

869
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: want to make the point. Yes, I'm saying if you

870
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: have them on for everyone, that's crazy.

871
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: Well, you know when they first came out, you had

872
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: to have them on for everybody or nobody. Yeah, I

873
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: had them on for everybody. I didn't give a shit.

874
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: Wow. Honestly, it explains so much.

875
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, though, why do you get

876
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: so upset at people who have it on? I just

877
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: don't What is what's upsetting to you about that?

878
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: I just don't see the point. I just don't see

879
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: any the point. No, there is no point to it.

880
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: It's literally looking at it and saying to yourself, oh,

881
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: it was read right. I guess they hate me.

882
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: Exactly, and then somebody spirals on the other side and

883
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 2: you're like, yes.

884
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah again. I go back to you being on mind Hunter.

885
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: Listen, you know the few people that I've done it

886
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: to one specifically, and it was warranted, and.

887
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: You know that I don't disagree with you on that,

888
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 3: and again that's petty manipulation, but I also love it. However,

889
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 3: you only.

890
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: Say manipulation because I'm a woman. If I was a man,

891
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: you would call me strategic.

892
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: Okay, then you're a strategic mastermind again mind Hunter. That's

893
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: the serial killer show, by the way, for people who

894
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: don't know it.

895
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: So you'll never ever put your read receipts on.

896
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: Ever, there's not a day in my life you will

897
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: ever catch me with a reader seat on.

898
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: Okay, but don't you have people who want you to

899
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: acknowledge something that's just not even really like acknowledgable, And

900
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: then you think, I think in your head, man, if

901
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: I had my read receipt on, they would know yes,

902
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: I did see it. No period.

903
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: That's like crazy to me.

904
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: You just want to leave people on limbo. Yeah, that's crazy.

905
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: No, what's crazy is like reading it, not responding to it,

906
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: and then sitting there like haha, yes, I.

907
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: Don't think you move on, and then that person has

908
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: no doubt.

909
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: I have no doubt.

910
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: Everything was communicated without actually having to say words, whereas

911
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: if it's just a delivered people are going to wonder.

912
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: Did Andrew see my text? And they're gonna ask you

913
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: about it.

914
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: I just cut out, you know, cut out all that

915
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: doubt you like to live in limbo. That's crazy.

916
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: Honestly, if like it's that wild of a text, I

917
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: will just call you. Okay, I am that person. I'm sorry.

918
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: I sometimes texting to me is like this is BS

919
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: let me just call see or.

920
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: You're like the reality TV, like, hey, let's I need

921
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: to pull you aside?

922
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Can we can we have a side chat with.

923
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: On my speakerphone? Hey, I want to have a private

924
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: conversation speak.

925
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: Exactly. I almost call this motherfucker.

926
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: Sometimes I just look at things and I'm like ew no,

927
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: and I scowed out of the room with the read

928
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: receipt on will not be doing this today.

929
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: So read receive people. You are in my burn book

930
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: this week. I just yeah, I don't. I don't get it.

931
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: I just don't get it. Fine, good for you.

932
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: But I'm recep on on yours right now.

933
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: Honestly, I would not be surprised. And you'll track me too.

934
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? We both have each other's locations.

935
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 3: Yes, that's in another burn book.

936
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: Please.

937
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: I think sharing locations is a step a step up.

938
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: It's like leveling up in your friendship. I trust you

939
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: so much that I don't care if you know where

940
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: I am twenty four to seven.

941
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: You may have this information.

942
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: I truly don't go anywhere fun. So it's literally I

943
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: know I'll be checking.

944
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there he is again by the taco joint.

945
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: That's where I live too.

946
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't gonna tell everybody that, but yeah, all right,

947
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: let's move on. Ask me anything anything good over any game.

948
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: Let's see. Let's see. All right, So this may go

949
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: in a burn book, it may not go in the

950
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: first book, okay. Jen dot Abe eighty seven asks what

951
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: was Mattie Segel really like to work with? Is he

952
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: as much of an a hole as he seems?

953
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: Wow?

954
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: This maybe this should be like a completely separate thing.

955
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: But I will say this, I think most people's impression

956
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: of what Maddy was, who Maddie was, is probably very accurate.

957
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: I think that he and I when I came into

958
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: that situation. So, by the way, Maddie in the Morning

959
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: is the former morning show host of a station in

960
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: Boston Kiss went Away. He had a show called Maddy

961
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: in the Morning. I was his executive producer. They recruited

962
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: me to go there. So I got recruited from a

963
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: place where I used to be an intern, and I

964
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: was so excited and I thought they're gonna love me.

965
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm like God, they recruited me.

966
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: And I got there and nobody liked me.

967
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: Shock because he had read.

968
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: So it was a really interesting transition because where I

969
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: was before, like I said, I was an intern, so

970
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: I kind of grew up with them, and everybody was

971
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: very supportive, very Midwest. And then you go to Boston

972
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: and you're not a little intern anymore. They didn't watch

973
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: you grow up and their heads. You came and just

974
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: took two people's jobs. Fuck you, and also, you're brown.

975
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Not great in Boston. However, Maddie was the one who

976
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: recruited me to go. I still have a little post

977
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: it note from him that he's stuck on our boss's

978
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: desk and he said, get me the producer from Ohio

979
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: and I love it and I laminated it and I

980
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: kept it when I got there. We did not hit

981
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: it off, that is saying the least. We didn't. After

982
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: a while, we had a fantastic relationship and there were

983
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: times where he would say, you're one of my best friends,

984
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: and we would talk every day and things were wonderful.

985
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: And he can be tough The way they described it

986
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: to me when I started is he's competitive, which is

987
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: an interesting way. By the way, keep that in mind

988
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: when you're working with people. If they call somebody competitive,

989
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: that could be a lot of things. He's competitive, and

990
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: he was wanted the best, and he wanted to do

991
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: the best, and he wanted the people around him to

992
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: be the best. I will always say Boston is where

993
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I grew up. To whatever extent you

994
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: would say that I'm growing up right now. I was

995
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: a kid when I was in Ohio. I grew up

996
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: in Boston because I had to, and we had a

997
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: wonderful relationship and things were great. I do understand and

998
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: I hear and I acknowledge anything that people have to

999
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: say about him. That's probably what their experience with him was.

1000
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: I say this all the time. If somebody tells you

1001
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: I'm a bitch, believe them. If somebody tells you I'm

1002
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: the nicest person, believe them, because I'm not the same

1003
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: with everybody that I encounter. Some people just rein it

1004
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: in a little better than others. So whatever you've heard

1005
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: about him probably true. I think he's one of the

1006
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: best interviewers I've ever met. In my entire life. He

1007
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: was amazing at it. Upon getting the job offer here,

1008
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: things changed drastically. And anybody who is listening to this,

1009
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: who was listening when I was in Boston as I

1010
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: was leaving probably heard the downward spiral. What went on

1011
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: about it? Now? I was very traumatized at the time.

1012
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: You know, he was mad, he didn't want me to go,

1013
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: and he made it very clear that that's how he felt.

1014
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: So we had a very rollercoaster like relationship. I will

1015
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: always have very, very deep respect for him. I liked

1016
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: learning from him. I think a lot of people could

1017
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: do that, and I think he's a very one of

1018
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: a kind type person. You're not going to encounter that

1019
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: ever again, and I'm thankful for my time that I

1020
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 2: spent there.

1021
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: As far as like, is he who people think he is?

1022
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: Sure?

1023
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: If you've had that experience with him, yes, he's that person.

1024
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: If you've had a great one, he's great. If you

1025
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: had a bad one, he's bad. That's how it is,

1026
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: and I think that's how it is for all of us. Right,

1027
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: Andrew apparently thinks I'm a psychopath.

1028
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: Receipts. It's the tracking of my location and the raid receipts.

1029
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: It's because I love you. I feel like I'm going

1030
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: to get a call in the middle of the night

1031
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: on my little thing that shows the picture and just

1032
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: see you, like stay outside games. If you ever did that,

1033
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: I would crack out. To be honest, you don't want have.

1034
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: Asked me if you live like two blocks down the

1035
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: street from me and sometimes people get drunk at night.

1036
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: Done?

1037
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: All right, and that's it.

1038
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: What do you think who?

1039
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: I will say this, Okay, So I love Lisa. She

1040
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: was amazing.

1041
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm super excited about the next guest.

1042
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, your guests have all been super interesting. I feel

1043
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: like the way that we're booking the guests too. It's

1044
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of fun stuff coming down, and

1045
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: I feel like you're kind of finding your own in

1046
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: the show. It's really cool to see.

1047
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: Thanks.

1048
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. So I will give a tease as

1049
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: to who the next guest is. His name is Mark.

1050
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: You may know him as squirrel Daddy or the owner

1051
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: of Peanut the Squirrel. He rescued a baby squirrel. I

1052
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: started following him because it was the cutest thing ever.

1053
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: And then his pants started getting tighter and tighter and weird.

1054
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: Things started happening, and we will address that in the

1055
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: next episode. But thank you for listening. Do the thing Andrew,

1056
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: what are they.

1057
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: Supposed to do?

1058
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: Follow Gandhi at Baby Hot Sauce. Make sure you like,

1059
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: subscribe review this podcast. Your reviews have been so phenomenal.

1060
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: We've been reading them. Gandhi doesn't want to read some

1061
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: of them on air because they're all five stars.

1062
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: So I think that's like dick sucking.

1063
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to suck my own dick.

1064
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: Look, I love that people are being so nice and

1065
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: I am reading them.

1066
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1067
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Also, don't take this as like incentive to go leave

1068
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: a shitty review because I won't read those.

1069
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Speaker 3: Ye, But yeah, leave a review if you feel inclined,

1070
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Speaker 3: like subscribe and we will see you next week.

1071
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Speaker 2: Yes, also on the side,