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Speaker 1: is Ethan Candau of Monumo Sports Ethan, How you doing man, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Doing great, Zach, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's really the biggest key here. But

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Speaker 1: I think I would give the point to Ethan because

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Speaker 1: I like the point that you made about being able

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Speaker 1: to move and diversify the coverage a little bit better

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Speaker 1: with because of the corner's safety's a wheel to move

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Speaker 1: around a bit more. So I'll give you a point there.

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Speaker 1: Ethan still leaves, but with this last question, last question

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Speaker 1: is going to be worth two points, so I'll still

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Speaker 1: have the chance to take the lead. And it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: Which player do you think is gonna have a big

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Speaker 1: game for the Commanders to pull out a win and

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Speaker 1: Alex will start off with you. So I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with Larry Tunsil.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, you know he came in and we know what

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Speaker 3: he's capable of, we know the career he's had, but

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Speaker 3: we also know the pressure that's on Josh Connolly on

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Speaker 3: the other side. And if Larry tunsl can step up

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Speaker 3: and help with stopping that Giants front, helping us protecting

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Speaker 3: Jade Dale and allow Jayden to start off this season

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Speaker 3: on the right foot and go hand in hand with

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Speaker 3: I think Terry McLaurin also needs to have a good

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Speaker 3: start to the season, so I would go with Tunsil mainly,

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Speaker 3: but I think Terry McLaurin as my second guy there

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Speaker 3: for this week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like both those answers, especially Larry Tunes the

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Speaker 1: one Ethan, We'll switch over to you, and I know

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Speaker 1: Alex technically took two, but if you want to expand

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Speaker 1: to Terry, you can go ahead the the ears.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna go with the guy opposite Terry, Deebo Samuel.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy who they traded for the spring

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Speaker 4: entering the last year of his deal.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco didn't work.

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Speaker 4: Out that last year, requested a trade. He's in a

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Speaker 4: place where he can succeed. He got all the reps

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Speaker 4: with Jayden over the summer when Terry was gone.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy that has everything to prove. There's a

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Speaker 2: ton of pressure on him.

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Speaker 4: He's not only playing for the twenty twenty five Commanders,

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Speaker 4: but he's playing for his next contract in.

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Speaker 2: His future in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: We've seen him be one of the league's best receivers

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one, when he had fourteen hundred receiving

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Speaker 4: yards and fourteen total touchdowns. I think eight we're rushing,

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Speaker 4: in six we're receiving. This is a guy that has

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Speaker 4: not been that same player the last three years. Injuries

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Speaker 4: have bothered him. He just hasn't had the same production Brandon.

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Speaker 4: I you kind of took over as the main guy

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Speaker 4: last year. He has a fresh start here. He has

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Speaker 4: a great opportunity, a great quarterback in Jayden and Daniels

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Speaker 4: that he's formed really nice chemistry with throughout training camp.

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Speaker 4: It's time to show that everything you've done this offseason

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Speaker 4: that you're in shape, you're ready to go, and you're

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Speaker 4: ready to produce like the elite receiver you claim to be.

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Speaker 4: I think a big game from Deebo Samuel Week one

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Speaker 4: could silence a lot of critics and also kind of

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Speaker 4: set up a recipe for success for this offense and

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Speaker 4: take it to another level.

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Speaker 1: Wow, both of y'all brought the heat that those were

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Speaker 1: both excellent answers. I really like the points he made

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Speaker 1: with Devo because I mean, I think that he really

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Speaker 1: has a chance to really blow the top off of

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Speaker 1: this offense, especially with his yards after contact, the way

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Speaker 1: he can make yards after the catch. He is an

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Speaker 1: explosive weapon waiting to happen, and he's definitely one of

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Speaker 1: the players that I'm more excited to watch this season. Man,

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Speaker 1: this is really tough and I feel like I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm I'm doing the one one person dirty with

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Speaker 1: this because both were just such great answers. Man, I

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Speaker 1: think we got to go all the way back to

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Speaker 1: being of this podcast, and we talked about the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We talked about protection and Larry Mattenzel is the top

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Speaker 1: five tackle you brought him into to protect Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 1: And although Debo is great without five, this office does

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Speaker 1: not go. Alex, you have won this first season two

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Speaker 1: episode of The beat Down. How do you feel about

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Speaker 1: taking the victory home?

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Speaker 3: I feel pretty good because I think I was on

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Speaker 3: this too for maybe three times last year, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I won last year, so this might

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Speaker 3: be my first wedd and I'm pretty fired up the back.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think we're gonna have to check the

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Speaker 1: taste back, but that was definitely I think that I

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Speaker 1: think that might be the case. Yeah, so we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll check, we'll I'll talk to the staff's department and

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Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. But Ethan also great consolation, love

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Speaker 1: the answer about about Devo and Man, it's tough, but

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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed having you on the podcast has been great.

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Speaker 2: Man, Thanks for having me. I won't demand to recount

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Speaker 2: this time, but maybe next time.

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Speaker 1: Well, there will definitely be a next time for sure,

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Speaker 1: because like I said, you brought the heat here, well

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Speaker 1: then'll do it. For this week's episode, be sure true, rate,

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Speaker 1: review and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and we

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Speaker 1: will be back next week for the Commanders Thursday night

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Speaker 1: football matchup against the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: At landbou Field.

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Speaker 1: This has been the beat down