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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on, everybody? How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm John Middlecoff. This is the Three and Out Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by my friends at Zone Pouches. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: everyone's doing well. I'm doing pretty good. I've slept about

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Speaker 1: five hours in the last couple of nights, and I

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Speaker 1: have a son. Now. He's at home because we came

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Speaker 1: home today. He must be my son because we got discharged.

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Speaker 1: Well before kickoff of the Bill's Bronco game was turned

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Speaker 1: into an absolute bananas game. They went overtime, felt like

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Speaker 1: it was going to go to a couple overtimes, and

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Speaker 1: the Bills lost in devastating fashion. The Broncos lost their

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Speaker 1: quarterback to a broken ankle or broken bone in his ankle.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, I mean just he's out. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: getting surgery Tuesday, which was like, what when did that happen?

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Speaker 1: So the Broncos are hosting the AFC Championship game with

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. The Bills were in tears because it

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Speaker 1: does feel like their coach might get fired. So we

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Speaker 1: will discuss that after just some crazy shit happening in

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Speaker 1: that game. They have a bunch of turnovers still make

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Speaker 1: it overtime, have a late lead in the fourth quarter, bananas,

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Speaker 1: and then Seattle just absolutely destroys the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: who are going to host the NFC Championship Game. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: it would be my pick to represent the NFC in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl right now if their defense going to

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Speaker 1: look like that. They have absolutely destroyed the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row, forty nine Ers played a

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Speaker 1: game in between Seattle did not. They won forty one

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Speaker 1: to six and thirteen to three, So that would be well,

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Speaker 1: the final score there would be fifty four to nine.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot too little, and it looked even worse

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Speaker 1: so to Seattle and Denver. Kind of Denver. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it sucks your backup quarterbacks now starting the AFC Championhip game.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna save some stuff for Sunday, like John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh signing for a lot of money to be the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants head coach. I will mention Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: today because he got hired by the Atlanta Falcons. Don't

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Speaker 1: really have crazy take on that one, beside, eh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it, Matt Ryan once is an offensive guy.

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Speaker 1: So let's just dive into what we just witnessed. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start tonight with the Bills in the Bronco game.

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Speaker 1: I think the headline story today is the team that's

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Speaker 1: hosting the AFC Championship game. Their quarterback broke his ankle,

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Speaker 1: and listen, you don't have a choice as a coach

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Speaker 1: but to try to uplift your squad. He announced, We're

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Speaker 1: all in with Jared Stidham, he claimed at the podium.

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Speaker 1: From what I saw, Sean Payton gave his press conference

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Speaker 1: and then came back in the room to announce the information.

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Speaker 1: His own team didn't know the information. Just a massive

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Speaker 1: blow because clearly Bronco's a weird team. Probably should have

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Speaker 1: lost today. I mean, anytime you get multiple interceptions from

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, three fumbles, turned those into thirteen points, you

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Speaker 1: score on every fumble and a touchdown in two field

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Speaker 1: goals and still don't win the or still barely win

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Speaker 1: the game and go into overtime, not ideal. Bronco's a

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Speaker 1: weird team. Clearly, though, You're one hundred and twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: from hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and you lose bo Nicks.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say following on social media.

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Speaker 1: The players found out on Twitter just a crazy loss

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Speaker 1: because the NFL even tweeted in Instagram the clip of

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Speaker 1: bo Knicks walking off the field after the game and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even lipping. He was not limping, So that

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Speaker 1: was crazy to watch. Listen, he was gonna get destroyed

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Speaker 1: if they lost that game because in the second half

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Speaker 1: he was kind of all over the map. The Broncos

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Speaker 1: offense stumbled. But you got to give the kid his credit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if his kid, he's like a forty

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Speaker 1: year old second year player. Let him right that right

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Speaker 1: down on a drive, which you know that the Bronco

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Speaker 1: or the Bills ended up getting the ball back with

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Speaker 1: fifty seconds that gotten the field goal range. But they

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Speaker 1: took the lead with you know, under a minute to

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Speaker 1: go because bow Knicks hit Suddon multiple times, made a

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Speaker 1: big play with his legs, throw a beautiful touchdown pass,

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Speaker 1: I mean a gorgeous touchdown pass. It was big time

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Speaker 1: stuff and at the end of the day, as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know you're judged in the biggest moments. It's why

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Speaker 1: Caleb has gotten so much credit this year coming through

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Speaker 1: on was TICKI tack for my liking, but he was

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Speaker 1: slinging it. Now. I think Sean Payton's usage of him,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of a moot pointed, you know, right

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Speaker 1: is a problem. Like ideally you don't want a team

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Speaker 1: to have their backup quarterback in the AFC Championship game

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Speaker 1: and definitely the Super Bowl. Even my mother in law,

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Speaker 1: during the middle of the Niners game as actually a

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Speaker 1: Seattle guy was on the ground Charbonne and was like,

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Speaker 1: were there this many injuries twenty years ago? And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: sure doesn't feel like it, not at the rate in

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Speaker 1: have noticed. To say it was innocuous feels like an overstatement.

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Speaker 1: The guy stepped on his ankle, clearly when you watch

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Speaker 1: right off. It shows you the power of adrenaline. But

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Speaker 1: there's no way around it. It's just a devastating blow. Right.

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Speaker 1: You can nitpick them all you want, but they got

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Speaker 1: this far for a reason. The guy's made a lot

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Speaker 1: of big plays. I mean, this Denver Bronco defense is

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Speaker 1: no longer that good. They do not feel like a

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Speaker 1: on that I understand the outcome because you're not claiming

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Speaker 1: But if I catch the ball and I hit the ground,

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Speaker 1: this is always my issue. Aren't I down? And that's

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Speaker 1: always like, well, you didn't take two steps, you didn't

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Speaker 1: it's in his possession. I don't know. I kind of

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Speaker 1: understand where Sean mcdermot's coming from having an issue with

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Speaker 1: rule it's technically not a catch. But this gets back

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Speaker 1: to like in the history of playing football, if I

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Speaker 1: But now with this convoluted nature of the way we've

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Speaker 1: but I also see the other side as well, and

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Speaker 1: I thought the referees by the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: we're getting very trigger happy with the yellow flag. But

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Speaker 1: the Broncos came out victorious. Now they don't have their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and I think you saw tonight. Definitely Seattle Denver is

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Speaker 1: they won the super Bowl, So it would have been

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Speaker 1: what January of twenty seventeen, the twenty sixteen regular season.

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Speaker 1: That place was rocking. I had a cousin there today.

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Speaker 1: He's like, it was so loud, the place was going nuts.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't hear yourself think Seattle, like Brady said that

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Speaker 1: when your backup quarterback comes in at this point in

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Speaker 1: came out and said Kurt Warners, our starter, and we're

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Speaker 1: really big challenge because bo Nick's be a roller coaster ride,

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Speaker 1: there is no disputing that. But he's their starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: And here's the other problem. It's January seventeenth, So what

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Speaker 1: think the Bills should win that game. So that's why

426
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: guys get fired is when you own a team, when

427
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: the fans who have watched this team go, how do

428
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: we lose this game? And I to me, the answer

429
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: comes to obviously the coaching situation. The beginning of the

430
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: or the end of the first half inexcusable. Can't happen.

431
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: You can't just hand your opponent three points. But also

432
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: your teams is not that good? What's up with this?

433
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: You took key On Coleman really high in the draft,

434
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: and I know he had a touchdown tonight, But like

435
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: that situation, why can't you rely on them like you

436
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: can rely on Cook and Kincaid. Cook's a really good player,

437
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: it's an excellent draft pick, but where are some of

438
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: the other impact guys? Like part of John Schneider's success,

439
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: he's hit on not just first rounders, but subtle trades

440
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: like how do you think he got Leonard Williams? What

441
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: do you think that got? He just got Rahid Shaheed

442
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: for like a fourth and a fifth round pick. Stuff

443
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: on the margins is how you win when you're twelve, thirteen,

444
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: fourteen win team, it's decided by a play here or

445
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: play there, an impact play by random guys, not just

446
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: your star players. So well, the Buffalo Bills, that was devastating,

447
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's safe to say that it would

448
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: not shock me at all if in the next couple

449
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: of days they fire everybody, because that's usually the way

450
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: this thing works. And they've had a lot of stability there,

451
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of success. But when they went

452
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: into this playoffs and then beat the Jags, who were

453
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: the hottest team in the league. The Jags, like a

454
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: month ago, beat the living piss out of the Denver

455
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: Broncos to win that game. To come into this game,

456
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: even with it the weird turnovers, to have the lead

457
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, that's bad, man. I just don't

458
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: think that's something that you overcome. I mean, they had

459
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: the lead, they were up twenty seven to twenty three

460
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: with four minutes to go, twenty seven to they were

461
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: up four points with four minutes to go, and you

462
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: lose the game to bow Knicks, who kind of sliced

463
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: and dice on that finals drive. They really did, and

464
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: some of it was like you running the zone coverage

465
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: and Sudden's just wide open, and obviously he made the

466
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: great pass, you know, in the corner of the end zone.

467
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: But and then even they go they have to punt

468
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: in overtime. What's the chances if I tell you in

469
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: the second round or the AFC Championship game or the

470
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl a team punts in overtime that they win

471
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: the game. Feels like it would be really, really slim.

472
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: So that's one of those losses. There's a reason everyone

473
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: was crying. There was a reason McDermott is saying, I'm

474
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: sticking up for Buffalo. These guys aren't dumb. They understand

475
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: the reality here. And I think the reality is is

476
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: like this iteration, this ten year of their operation. Coach

477
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: and GM feel like it kind of officially close tonight

478
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: and you just lost to a team who probably is

479
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: gonna lose next week because they don't have a starting quarterback,

480
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: which is not really the team you played, but it

481
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: is what it is. Let's hit on the night game,

482
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: which was a massacre. The forty nine ers got shellacked.

483
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: That was a beatdown, and it kind of was a

484
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: beatdown from the moment the game was kicked off. I

485
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: mean you looked up, and I mean Eddie Panero who

486
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: tried to trip them, don't really blame him. I mean

487
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: the guy was so fast, I didn't think the trip

488
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: even got close. But you could argue, should you get

489
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: kicked out for a trip like that, because what if

490
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: you injured the guy, which I'm not opposed to. I'm

491
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: kind of making fun of it though it is you

492
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: can't tolerate it, and it shouldn't be tolerated. But no

493
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: one was hurting. It was kind of a funny play.

494
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: My main takeaway from that game is Seattle is the

495
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: heavy favorite to be representing the NFC Super Bowl, and

496
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: clearly they can win this thing when your defense is

497
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: that good. I mean, at one point in time, I

498
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: think they were up almost thirty points and they had

499
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: like seventy two yards passing. Here's the thing, and I

500
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see this with Houston tomorrow afternoon. They

501
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: don't need and listen one question mark coming into this

502
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: game with Sam Darnold, what did he end with today?

503
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: Twelve of seventeen? How many yards he threw? Four? They

504
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: won forty one to six. Their starting quarterback completed twelve

505
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: passes for one hundred and twenty yards. Think about that.

506
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers played in a game like that

507
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: years ago against Green Bay in the NFC Championship Game.

508
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: I think Jimmy had maybe it was six completions, so

509
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't quite that. But they can just run the

510
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: ball and they can really play defense. I mean tonight

511
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: they had one hundred and seventy five yards. I mean

512
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a fair fight. They sacked Purty multiple times.

513
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: But it's not even just when they're sacking him, the

514
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: amount they're hitting him, no one is open their team speed,

515
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: the violence. I think they can win the Super Bowl.

516
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: I really do, because they don't need their quarterback that

517
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: much and he obviously he didn't look not healthy tonight.

518
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: You know the oblique thing to me when that story

519
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: broke a couple of days ago. I went, I've seen

520
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: guys get this injury at quarterback and you can't throw

521
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: because of the torque on your body. And then he

522
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: wasn't at warm ups and then he comes out. His

523
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: first pass was way off. I was like, I don't know,

524
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: But then he made a couple when he was fine.

525
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: He looked just like Sam Darmold, and if he could

526
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: just play under control not turn the ball over. They

527
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: have a Houston like defense. But I would say the

528
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: difference of them in Houston, I feel like their offense

529
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: is better, partly because they're running games better. We'll have

530
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: to see what happened to Sharponna. I mean he got

531
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: injured in the game. Kenneth Walkers just owned the forty

532
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: nine Ers the last couple of weeks. I mean, Jackson

533
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Smith is so good, Cooper Cup clearly has momentum. But

534
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: the other thing, whoever they end up playing next week,

535
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: the home field advantage that Seattle has is outrageous. I

536
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: mean that place is so fucking loud you feel it

537
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: from just sitting on your couch. We were just talking

538
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: about the Bills. Brandon Bean has done an awful job, right,

539
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: You draft Josh Allen great, but then it's incumbent on

540
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: you to make moves and have a team that is

541
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: capable to overpower people. Right, you can't just depend on

542
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: your quarterback to overpower people. You need your team to

543
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: overpower people. But the one thing, you know, Cam Newton

544
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: or Roethlisberger, these just physical freaks who were built unlike

545
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: any other player in the NFL. Their team and GM

546
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: in front office built teams around them that reflected their physicality.

547
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: Like Cam Newton's defense in Carolina was incredible that they

548
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: would knock your fucking head off. The teams in the

549
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: prime of Roethlisberger, how good they were on defense. You're

550
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: watching the Bills, You're like, where's their physicality. You're watching

551
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: John Schneider build the defense. It feels like every guy

552
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: is one of the hardest hitters in the league. All

553
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: their defensive linemen feel like they're trying to knock you

554
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: into the blue tent. All their DB's hit. And John

555
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: Schneider does not get enough credit for how good of

556
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: a job he's done rebuilding this team at this level,

557
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: cause it's it's outrageous how physically gifted they are. The

558
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: speed and physicality of their team is obviously the Niners

559
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: just ran out of juice. I mean they had injuries

560
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: in the game, but they have been completely mulled in

561
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: back to back games against Seattle, like there's no way

562
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: around they look now. Granted, some of their guys are

563
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: JV guys, but they look like a JV team against Seattle.

564
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: They just played the Eagles last week, who had one

565
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: of the best defense in the league, have all this

566
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: talent on both sides of the ball, and they look

567
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: there equal physically, like it did not look like a

568
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: physical overmatch. Yet tonight it looks like you're watching, you know,

569
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: pick some top high school team right where I from

570
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: in California, be like fulsome or modern day when they're

571
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: playing one of their random opponents and you look, you

572
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: know on Max Prep back in the day, I was

573
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna say the newspaper. No one's reading the newspaper anymore.

574
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: And you see the score it's like seventy to three.

575
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: You're like, God, damn. My high school where I went

576
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: to high school, Davis High School. We are in Fulsom's league,

577
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: who is one of the top probably fifteen teams in

578
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: the country. They are a powerhouse. Last year the pro.

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00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: My high school refused to play them. They just forfeited

580
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: the game. They did not feel it was safe, which

581
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 1: I had a buddy that coaches like the JV team.

582
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: He's like, it wouldn't have been. They got guys going

583
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: to Ole miss by USC, they would have murdered him.

584
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: That's what this kind of felt like. And then the

585
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: guys could go into the game who were kind of

586
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: injured leave even more injured. It's just like, I mean,

587
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: that was a massacre that there's no way around it.

588
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: It's not even a fair fight. And John Schneider deserves

589
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: a ton of credit. Mike McDaniel or Mike McDonald. I've

590
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: been saying this for a long time. If he was

591
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: a offensive head coach, we would speak about him like

592
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: a goat. We talk about him the way we do

593
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: about Kyle and McVeigh and Andy Reid for years. But

594
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: he's a defensive guy. And it's nobody knows unless you're

595
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: working football. And when I say work in football, like

596
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, when Tony Romod's like, yeah,

597
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: they're running the robber or this, it's like nobody even

598
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: knows what you're talking about, bro, No one understands that

599
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of fans don't know what cover two is,

600
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: so like no one gets that defense is really really confusing.

601
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: Even the average football fan can understand basically like a

602
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: go route, a screen pass, like we have some concepts

603
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: of offense, most people don't understand defense because it's really

604
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: really complicated, right, and so Mike McDonald is running the

605
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: more complicated side. Who in one thing is when you

606
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: run defense, it's a reactionary right side of the ball

607
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: because you don't know what's coming. You're reacting to what

608
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: they're doing. Yet it feels like when he's played Kyle

609
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: twice in the last three weeks, he's dictating the terms

610
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: with all his whatever the hell he's doing, which clearly

611
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon has no clue because we just saw him,

612
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: like move the ball, trick play. They try on a

613
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: trick play tonight. It was kind of like a I

614
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: don't know, a cousin of what they ran last week.

615
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: A couple different pitches and it was a fucking nightmare.

616
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: Pretty I think had to throw it back to DeMarcus Robinson.

617
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: It was like a screen. It got destroyed. It went

618
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: for like one yard. They just eat you alive. So listen,

619
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: if Sam Darnold is just gonna play in games where

620
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: he's throwing under twenty pass attempts and he's obviously not

621
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: that injured, they could win the super Bowl, and they're

622
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: gonna be favored next week, which whoever they play in

623
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: this game. Obviously they beat the Rams that final month

624
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: of the season. They clearly are a more well built

625
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: team than the Bears in terms of their balance of

626
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: their team. But I would pick them right now to

627
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: win whichever one of those teams they play. Also, when

628
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: you factor in that game Sunday night, I mean some

629
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: of these clips coming out of Chicago of ten degrees

630
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: and the wind and the no it's like that game's

631
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: got a chance to be brutal. I mean, these guys

632
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 1: are whoever wins that game is gonna be gimping into

633
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday preparing for Seattle. And that's not the

634
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: type team that you limp and gimp to go play

635
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: because they got both chin straps buckled looking to knock

636
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: your chintz or your mouthpiece on the ground. That happened

637
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: to night. I forget who it was. A mouthpiece went

638
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: flying might have been. The first was that the first

639
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: play of the game, or that was actually in the

640
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: Bills Bronco game, the first play of the game where

641
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: I felt like both guys are gonna get stretched off

642
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: the field, but props Seattle, props with John Schneider, props

643
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: with Mike McDonald. Incredible turnaround, truly is and then me

644
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers like they just got to answer.

645
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: One question moving forward is how do they fix his

646
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: injury thing? How does this stop? And I don't pretend

647
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: to like I got a couple of degrees that are meaningless,

648
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: and I don't remember one thing that was ever taught

649
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: to me in class past, like some basic math in

650
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: writing and how to read, so I can't pretend to

651
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: understand substations and power grids and shit like that. I

652
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: don't know. But this story's gotten big enough where they're

653
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to put out some sort of statement like

654
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: this is not true, This has no impact because this

655
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: story's not going away. You have former players commenting on it.

656
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: Players are on the team are gonna have to start

657
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: answer asking some questions like the amount of injuries they

658
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: consistently get is not normal. And as we head toward

659
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: free agency, you just think some people are gonna have

660
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: some questions. If I was a player on the team,

661
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: my livelihood are my tendons and my muscles. So like, listen,

662
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm not asking every team to respond to every rumor

663
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: out there, but this is something that like kind of

664
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: out of left field that a lot of people are

665
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: going like, what is there something there? Because let's face it,

666
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: you don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to go

667
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: kind of makes some sense because what we've witnessed is

668
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: not fucking normal. Even the day Jake Tongjas who at

669
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: one point in time in the game he ended up

670
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: leaving the team and receiving comes lipping off the field.

671
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: It's like, how's this sustainable? And the answer is this

672
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: not if it wasn't for your coaching staff, which is

673
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: clearly pretty good. Beside when you play Mike McDonald, you

674
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: would have no chance you put a random coach on

675
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: this team. This team won like four games, so like

676
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: part of the success of any team in the league

677
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: is you gotta have your best players around when it

678
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: matters most, and they're all injured. So the injuries of

679
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: this team it's insane, and tonight clearly you're rolling up

680
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: and out enough of these guys and you're not playing

681
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Patola and the Eagles in nept offense, you get

682
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: beaten like a drum. But I do think it gets this.

683
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: This question with the substation is just it's just gonna

684
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: be a story that's not gonna go away. And I

685
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: do think it's kind of incumbent on them at some

686
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: point to almost come out and just say, hey, we've

687
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: looked into this, We've paid for some dude from Stanford

688
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: to run a study, or we've done our own studies.

689
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: We don't believe this is true. But I just think

690
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: saying stylent, I just don't believe the story is just

691
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: gonna a lot of things go away in twenty twenty five,

692
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: or I guess it's twenty six. With the pace in

693
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: which our society goes, I don't think this thing's going

694
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: away because as long as their injuries keep happening, people

695
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: are gonna keep asking questions. And I just don't know

696
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: what you do, like firing some strength and conditioning coach,

697
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: Been there, done that, nothing changed. Your coach is clearly good, right,

698
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: and we'll see if solid leaves or not, which is

699
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: obviously a big blow if he does, because they'll need

700
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: whatever their fourth defensive coordinator in four years. They had Tamiko,

701
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: then they had Wilkes, then they had Sorenson, now they

702
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: had solid It'd be their fifth defensive coordinator in five years,

703
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: so it'd be a lot of turnover. But I think

704
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: you just look. I mean, he's a pretty good chance

705
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: that he probably gets an offer somewhere. You'd think, now,

706
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: if that offers the Arizona Cardinals, who probably turn it down,

707
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: would he take the Raider gig? Do the Raiders want him?

708
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there's no guarantee he'll get a job,

709
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: but ideally for the forty nine ers, he doesn't because

710
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: he's clearly pretty good and they'd like him back. But

711
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: to be good on defense, look at Seattle, you gotta

712
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: have your fucking best players out there. That they can't

713
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: be in the injury ted. They can't be on the sideline,

714
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, trying to come back. They can't be at

715
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: home with a torn acl And I just think the

716
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, to me, the story of their season

717
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: was the injuries, and even at the end of the season,

718
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: tell towards the end of the game. I have a

719
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: lot of respect for football players right that they the

720
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: physicality of the game. You know, they don't take games off.

721
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: This isn't basketball or baseball. There's no load managing. But

722
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: like Trent Williams was in there late in the game,

723
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is insane on they once they went

724
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: up like thirty four to six, I would have taken

725
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: him out of the game, Like you can't afford to

726
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: have him at thirty six thirty, I guess he's thirty

727
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: seven get injured, And I thought they waited too long

728
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: to pull guys they're just asking for with the situation

729
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: of their team and whatever the hell's going on, because

730
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: something's going on, no one quite knows what, but it's

731
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: not normal. Even in a league where a lot of

732
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: guys get injured, it is not normal. And it feels

733
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: like this year kind of jumped the shark, like there's

734
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: like no ever looking at it the same and there's

735
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: no trust that this is going to change at this point,

736
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: which clearly also like this is not one of those things.

737
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: Even back to the substation, Like I don't blame anyone

738
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: involved in football, like Kyle John Lynch, they have nothing

739
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: to do with this, but they got to look into this,

740
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: like someone has to say something of like what is

741
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: going on, because it can't be just simply we do

742
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: too many front squats on Tuesdays. We do this one

743
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: drill with our strength bullshit. At this point in time,

744
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. And the rules. Even if you

745
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: say they practice a little more physical than other teams

746
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: the same nineteen seventy eight. They're not wearing pads in

747
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: practice like they used to. It's just not the same.

748
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: So it's unlike anything I've ever seen. And it just

749
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: got worse and worse and worse. It just never ended.

750
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: That was the crazy part. It literally never ended. And

751
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: they ran into this team that was a terrible matchup

752
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: for him and just beat the living shit out of them,

753
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: because that's what happened if you get beat in a

754
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: play off game. Forty one to six. Forty one to six,

755
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: Seattle had two hundred and eighty yards. And that was

756
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: a crazy part. It's not like they even went for

757
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: like five hundred yards offense. It was just a complete beatdown.

758
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Special teams played the defense. Prop Seattle enjoy the NFC

759
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: Championship game, and I'm rooting for my guy John Schneider,

760
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: who had on the podcast one time, call my guy

761
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: to make the Zuer Bowl. We'll get out of here.

762
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: On this the big news. I personally believe that Roger

763
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: Goodell should make a rule. Remember when Alex Rodriguez he

764
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: announced he was retiring or coming back or suspended. Something

765
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: happened in the middle of the World Series. It's like,

766
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: what are we doing? I also think that you should

767
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: not be allowed to hire someone in the middle of

768
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: a second round playoff game. Wait for Monday and Lessen.

769
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm biased, that's a great story on like a Tuesday.

770
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: But Kevin Stefanski is hired by the Atlanta Falcons. He

771
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: called him an iconic franchise. Didn't know the Falcons were

772
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: an iconic franchise, but I do imagine, and Palasaro tweeted

773
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: out that he had a long conversation with Matt Ryan.

774
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski has been involved with one of the more

775
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: batshit places in all of sports. He has had a

776
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: guy heavily involved with his team. That is a baseball

777
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: executive that helped run the personnel department for the Cleveland

778
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: Browns who didn't even live in Cleveland. He lived in

779
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: San Diego. Obviously, the Deshaun Watson situation it's just been

780
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: a debacle. Now this year offensively, did Kevin Sefanski bail

781
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: it in? Because I think they had, like objectively, one

782
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: of the worst offense in the history of the league.

783
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: So like, hell, we just saw the forty nine ers

784
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: with the million injuries still figure things out. Like, if

785
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: you're a great offensive guy, you should figure something out.

786
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: I also understand just being over a job. We've all

787
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: had jobs where like this is gonna end. I'm over it,

788
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: I can't even focus. Maybe there was a little bit

789
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: of that, which ideally is not a coach thing. But listen,

790
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be the first or last, you know, successful

791
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: coach who was quit on a team. Oh Sean Payton

792
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Now, not during the season,

793
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, during the season, a little bit different. But

794
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: maybe he realized the writing was on the wall. They

795
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: had no quarterback. People in the league really like him.

796
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I met him one time in the combine.

797
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Seemed like a nice guy. Obviously, I think viewed as

798
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: a pretty sharp offensive guy. But I think sometimes you

799
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: get a reputation as like this dominant coach or dominant

800
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: offensive coach that I don't know. I mean could the

801
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: Falcons have done better? Probably not. Falcons were never gonna

802
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: get John Harbaugh. You know the mic very well, Like

803
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: people like that aren't signing up for their jobs. I mean,

804
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: look at their last two hires. Raheem Morrise, great guy,

805
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: clearly not good head coach, and Arthur Smith the first

806
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: time head coach. Like that's kind of what they started doing.

807
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: And even you go back to like dan Quinn Mike Smith,

808
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of their thing. They wanted a guy

809
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: with some experience. They clearly wanted an offensive guy. I

810
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: think they're trying to have him keep Jeff Olbrick, and

811
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: if you're him, you just feel much more comfortable. Like

812
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: we have no clue if Matt Ryan's gonna be good

813
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: or bad at this job. But the one thing you

814
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: would say about Matt Ryan's like he's just a football guy.

815
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Like he's just a football guy, and there has to

816
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: be some sort of like I don't even know what

817
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: the right adjective is to describe it, but maybe a

818
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: calmness over Kevin Stefanskiv, Like I can just deal with

819
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: a football guy. I don't have to deal with this

820
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: guy who lives in San Diego with all these fucking

821
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: crazy ideas that clearly aren't working. I have a GM

822
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: who is let's facing an analytically driven Ivy League type guy.

823
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I have this owner who is just nuts in Jimmy

824
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Haslam and like Arthur Blank, put himself in his own

825
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, which listen, would you do the same? Maybe?

826
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: But I think, by all accounts pretty good owner. People

827
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: really think highly of the guy. So I think the

828
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: number one question for Kevin Stefanski is who knows your quarterback?

829
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: That's Michael who is your quarterback? Because Michael Pennix has

830
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: a torn acl has shown nothing over the course of

831
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: his playing career in college and now in the pros

832
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: that he can stay healthy. The Cousin situation, who's Stefanski

833
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: coached in Minnesota? Maybe it puts it on the table.

834
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins comes back at some sort of reduced number,

835
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: which I would not look past that at all. I

836
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: saw Kirkcussins was on the desk today at CBS. Maybe

837
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: he goes listen, I'll either play for thirty five million,

838
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: I'll just go work in television. I think Kirkcussins will

839
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: be pretty good on TV. But I think the Kevin

840
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: Stefanski thing is you're kind of hoping it was more

841
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: of the Browns than him, because I know he won

842
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year a couple of times. Would Joe

843
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Flacco you get a lot of credit for that. The

844
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty year with Baker Mayfield kind of a fugazi season.

845
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: But I don't know. My question is I think a

846
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be like, great, Hire, Yeah,

847
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: it could be who's his quarterback? Uh Like, because if

848
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: you've got no quarterback? I just saw him in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: It did not go well. So you bring back Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: who's a little bit older, who's not very mobile. The

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Speaker 1: Pennix thing, you definitely can't bank on this at this point,

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Speaker 1: especially the people that drafted him are now gone. So like,

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Speaker 1: is Matt Ryan gonna believe in Penix? Did? Did Stefanski

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Speaker 1: even like Pennix? I don't know who Stefanski likes a quarterback? Hell,

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Speaker 1: he drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people at Dylan Gabriel is like an undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 1: Time will tell, But my reaction to it was like, Eh,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, I get it. But I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people can be like great higher Maybe I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think media loves a guy. I kind of see

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Speaker 1: the fow cause just do what they've been doing. Audie, else,

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Speaker 1: have a great night. The volume mm hmm