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Speaker 4: she lined up four drills. I looked at I said, man,
Speaker 4: I can make this. I'm I have to hustle, but
Speaker 4: but I think I can make it a worse I'll
Speaker 4: be bury church late.
Speaker 3: And you got.
Speaker 2: Y'all here before. Hope y'all wasn't.
Speaker 5: Gonna say nothing.
Speaker 2: So so b see that's on you. Now what you got?
Speaker 2: How you doing doing great? Going great?
Speaker 6: You know, about to go on vacation with the wife
Speaker 6: for a little bit. So it's gonna be a good
Speaker 6: time and uh looking forward to a nice little breath.
Speaker 2: Stay si, so you're not gonna say where stay.
Speaker 4: For the passport?
Speaker 2: Then come on? Man?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So we're going over the overseas for a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 2: Over a little for a little bit like Africa.
Speaker 5: We're going to roam in Sicily.
Speaker 2: Okay, just make sure you can just a little north that.
Speaker 3: Godfather House and all that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got Tony in that season finale, you know,
Speaker 5: bring bringing back something.
Speaker 3: Like listen, I'm good man, quick story. This summer about
Speaker 3: my life is going Listen. I'm sitting there, I'm talking
Speaker 3: to my daughter. She's two and a half, and she's,
Speaker 3: you know, acting up a little bit. And I was like, hey, Zoe, listen,
Speaker 3: Daddy be being nice to you, right, do you want
Speaker 3: daddy start being mean? She said, I could be mean
Speaker 3: to daddy. All right, Okay, I see what we're going
Speaker 3: with this r So fatherhood is kicking in. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to find the fine line between discipline and you know,
Speaker 3: trying to keep it fun.
Speaker 2: But you know, I feel played at the moment. I
Speaker 2: feel like she tried.
Speaker 4: She laid out his hachitake. She just laid out the
Speaker 4: way it's gonna be, you know, just like she.
Speaker 3: Lets you know right there, that's one of the moments
Speaker 3: when you just laugh because I was like, well, she said.
Speaker 4: Take take it in. Taking She's telling you how this
Speaker 4: houw is gonna be.
Speaker 3: She really just laid the groundwork, laying the groundwork for
Speaker 3: what it's like to raise their daughter. And she, I mean,
Speaker 3: she's already up up the speed on how to get
Speaker 3: this done with you?
Speaker 2: Daddy.
Speaker 3: You said one thing and she had an ill comeback
Speaker 3: right behind that wasted no time, didn't even have to
Speaker 3: go too thought about it. Imagine that she's a half
Speaker 3: and that half, well, wait till you add a.
Speaker 2: Teen to that. Checked my instagram not you see she
Speaker 2: was running the hills yesterday. I said the.
Speaker 4: Check back continue.
Speaker 2: That's how you want to be me. Come on, she
Speaker 2: canna be watching protest?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Running?
Speaker 3: He had got the protest yet protest. She's like cookies
Speaker 3: and ice cream.
Speaker 4: They're gonna tell her, Mama, what did you do to Zoe?
Speaker 2: Look?
Speaker 3: Man, cookies and ice cream and everything in between. It
Speaker 3: was first Sunday, last Sunday for me, And I'm sitting
Speaker 3: in church thinking to myself. I'm like, as the don't
Speaker 3: even ask me why the prepastor is doing this his
Speaker 3: sermon and I'm thinking to myself, man, we got a
Speaker 3: disaster coming our way.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys. I'm in church thinking disaster us coming, and
Speaker 2: man focused on.
Speaker 4: Taking to church with you.
Speaker 7: I did, I did.
Speaker 3: It is popped in my head. It's popped my I
Speaker 3: got my cracking, my juice and all that. You know,
Speaker 3: it's for a Sunday, you know, pray for your name.
Speaker 2: For me and death.
Speaker 3: Because I met, I had the thought in my head,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, this cap space problem that we're
Speaker 3: about to experience. This may be the last looking people
Speaker 3: have said this over the years that this this roster
Speaker 3: isn't going to look the same. But with the guys
Speaker 3: that you have to sign with Trayvon Diggs and also
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb, that could wreck you for sure, right and
Speaker 3: being a guy that's wrecked someone's cap.
Speaker 2: That's why I got some cap records in the building
Speaker 2: Roman sicily.
Speaker 3: Record cap record b C Shall still had recovered for
Speaker 3: what you did to this.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: When you think about this front office and the job
Speaker 3: that they have to do to get these guys signed,
Speaker 3: and I mean, I think for the most part, you're sixteen.
Speaker 3: I believe Cowboy's sixteen million dollars over the cap under
Speaker 3: the cap right now, so they're not cat Strap got
Speaker 3: four million dollars. You gotta get your rookie signed with,
Speaker 3: so that's gonna leave you right at about twelve million dollars.
Speaker 3: But what's looming is the Trayvon Diggs. You have to
Speaker 3: get something done with him. Then, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: behind that CD Lamb. So guys, I got to open
Speaker 3: the floor up and just ask you how do you
Speaker 3: deal with that as an organization knowing that you have
Speaker 3: maybe some market setting contracts looming on the horizon.
Speaker 6: Well, good thing for the Cowboys they got you know,
Speaker 6: Will McLay here, and they've been able to draft well
Speaker 6: throughout these past couple of years. But to me, that's
Speaker 6: the only way you get around this because in my understanding,
Speaker 6: you're not gonna be able to pay you know, it's
Speaker 6: Dig's top dollar and the wide receiver CD Lamb top dollar.
Speaker 6: And then you got a backdoor near comes Parsons, who's
Speaker 6: gonna probably be the highest paid defensive player when he's
Speaker 6: able to come up for his compensation. So to me,
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to draft well because those guys, you're
Speaker 6: not gonna be able to get the curses, the hookers,
Speaker 6: the guys that are the payer, the pieces around the
Speaker 6: stars out there to make this team what it is.
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be extremely tough.
Speaker 6: But I guarantee you Das is gonna be one of
Speaker 6: the top two, if not the top paid corner in
Speaker 6: the National Football League. You know, Ceedee Lamb's gonna want
Speaker 6: his bag as well. And we all know what Parsons
Speaker 6: is gonna come when he comes around the corner. So
Speaker 6: it's gonna get Caps tracked here for a little bit.
Speaker 6: But they're gonna have to draft extremely well because those
Speaker 6: you know, bargain choosing free agents here and there, they're not.
Speaker 5: Gonna be able to get those guys when those guys
Speaker 5: come up.
Speaker 3: About that man, yoh, yeah, that was that. But putting
Speaker 3: Digs into perspective, you have J. C. Jackson that just
Speaker 3: signed a big deal with the Los Angeles Chargers, all right,
Speaker 3: then Denzel Ward one hundred million dollar contract with the Browns,
Speaker 3: and so I don't I don't think that anything other
Speaker 3: than that is gonna be satisfactory for Diggs because they
Speaker 3: at twenty four years old, he's played in ninety percent
Speaker 3: of the snaps.
Speaker 2: That means he's gonna be asking for give me all
Speaker 2: of mine.
Speaker 5: He's taking the ball away better than any corner in
Speaker 5: the league. The past couple years.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, how do you deal I mean, how do you
Speaker 2: deal with that?
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if we're looking at the future, I'm
Speaker 3: looking at some other guys who are taking up a
Speaker 3: lot of cap space right now.
Speaker 2: Who probably won't be here all right.
Speaker 3: What happens is when you sign those type of guys,
Speaker 3: then you gotta let some other guys go. All right,
Speaker 3: So you got guys I don't even want to say
Speaker 3: no names, but you got guys on the D line
Speaker 3: who are making a lot of money annually who will
Speaker 3: probably not be on the roster. If you have to
Speaker 3: sign all three of those guys, all right, you gotta
Speaker 3: figure out what you're gonna do with Dak as well.
Speaker 3: Probably gonna extend them, but it's probably gonna be in
Speaker 3: a way that helps you create some more cap space.
Speaker 3: If you look at a guy like Jaylor Hurts or
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, the way that their contracts will set up,
Speaker 3: so I know that they're gonna be some creative ways
Speaker 3: for them to get it done. So I'm not really
Speaker 3: worried as much as maybe a heck, but I know
Speaker 3: there's some guys that I you know, a guy that
Speaker 3: I talk about, he probably not gonna be on this
Speaker 3: thing and then some defensive line guys, so it'll look
Speaker 3: totally different, but those will be your main stay guys.
Speaker 3: So they say, hey, man, I don't know what we're
Speaker 3: gonna have around them with the curses and the hookahs
Speaker 3: and stuff, but we know we need to get digs
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb and Michael Parson sign and then we'll figure
Speaker 3: the rest.
Speaker 2: Of it out later.
Speaker 4: So so you start looking, you know, I think to
Speaker 4: all right, your twenty twenty four cat, you know, just
Speaker 4: looking at uh, I go over here to spotrack dot
Speaker 4: com and you start to say, okay, chances of Tony
Speaker 4: Pollard making ten million next year slim?
Speaker 2: Okay, so none, okay.
Speaker 4: So you got that, looking at Michael Gallup making thirteen
Speaker 4: million dollars next year, Brandon Cooks on the book for ten.
Speaker 4: You know, there's there's ways, and you can people that
Speaker 4: you're looking at and say it may not be here,
Speaker 4: and they'll be here in different lighton Vanders four point seventy.
Speaker 4: There's ways that you can get guys down. Man, you're
Speaker 4: a punter next year twenty twenty four making three point
Speaker 4: six mil. There's ways that they're going to look cut
Speaker 4: extend people, the cat will go up. So there's going
Speaker 4: to be ways around it. As every team in the league,
Speaker 4: you gonna have to make some tough decisions. Somebody's not
Speaker 4: going to be here, right. We'll see play that will
Speaker 4: determine who is here and who is not. Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 4: you know, look at George Lewis's contract and just you know,
Speaker 4: there's there's things today. It's gonna be guys that they
Speaker 4: just say hey, Steven Jones and I don't think they
Speaker 4: get enough credit at times. They're gonna figure out who's
Speaker 4: got to be here, who's not. They're gonna be a
Speaker 4: I think heck right now with this cap space because
Speaker 4: somebody said me, hey man, what about de Hop. I
Speaker 4: ain't trying to sign d Hop as much as I'm
Speaker 4: trying to sign Digs. I'm trying to get Digs or Lamb.
Speaker 4: I need to get one of these two under contract
Speaker 4: before or at training camp. That that to me would
Speaker 4: make me feel good because at the end of the year,
Speaker 4: I don't what I don't want to do is to
Speaker 4: take Pollard's ten for a franchise. I have to throw
Speaker 4: that towards Diggs. It's gonna be cost you a lot
Speaker 4: more to franchise corner. So I'd love to get Digs
Speaker 4: done if possible from the Cowboys. And then you've got
Speaker 4: Lamb's contract. Of course he gonna want to, you know,
Speaker 4: get it done quicker. But Digs to me that that's
Speaker 4: the one I really would feel good about.
Speaker 3: But you have to explain why you have the urgency
Speaker 3: on Diggs's contract versus on Lamb. One longer than the other, right, no,
Speaker 3: one longer than the other because of the way that
Speaker 3: they were drafted four years versus exactly, and so how
Speaker 3: they can extend him and they don't have the same luxury.
Speaker 3: But historically the Cowboys have kind of drugged their feet.
Speaker 3: At this particular particular time, we saw that with Dak's
Speaker 3: contract that ended up costing him more. Would they do
Speaker 3: the same thing with Diggs's contract where you know that
Speaker 3: they may franchise tag him. That's a bad word, but
Speaker 3: that's how you kick the can down the road if
Speaker 3: you're the cowboy.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: With the quarterbacks, yeah, I think it's been an issue
Speaker 3: with them, not necessarily with other positions, all right, d
Speaker 3: Law they made him do franchise Tack twice, which is
Speaker 3: a win when you look at it, you know, in
Speaker 3: the hindsight of like he was making almost eighteen to
Speaker 3: twenty million dollars per with that one, But you look
Speaker 3: at I don't remember specifically do this thing, but I
Speaker 3: don't remember being that much of an issue to where
Speaker 3: we were like, they are they gonna continue to are
Speaker 3: they are they gonna sign the guy?
Speaker 2: We're not really sure.
Speaker 3: I think when you talked about Dak and those guys,
Speaker 3: Jerry and Steven know, hey, man, we're gonna get it
Speaker 3: figured out. I think it's us in the media who's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure, Like we had a whole discussion
Speaker 3: about back for like a year. Yeah, and Jerry and
Speaker 3: Stephen like you'all worried about the wrong thing. We're gonna
Speaker 3: make sure we get this thing figured out. So I
Speaker 3: think I think they're okay. But that's just me having
Speaker 3: that that that hope in the organization.
Speaker 6: I can see him playing hardball a little bit though
Speaker 6: they did. I can see this playing horrible. He got
Speaker 6: the older brother who's who's been, you know, the highest
Speaker 6: paid guy. He understands like, you gotta get all your words,
Speaker 6: so you know, he's feeding him a little bread comes, Hey, man,
Speaker 6: make sure you get the top dollar only on discounts nowhere.
Speaker 6: So I can see him, you know, talking to his
Speaker 6: older brother, getting that knowledge in there and saying, hey,
Speaker 6: you know what, I deserve to be the highest paid
Speaker 6: corner in the national football and we understand what.
Speaker 5: You know, the Cowboys bringing the negotiation table.
Speaker 6: You got that stone, your help. You can get a
Speaker 6: lot more money off the field as well. So they're
Speaker 6: gonna play horriball, in my opinion, a little bit going
Speaker 6: into this negotiation process.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you, d Mac.
Speaker 6: I think at the end of the day, it's gonna
Speaker 6: get done because they understand that this guy is a
Speaker 6: cornerstone of the defense. He's young, he's a productive guy
Speaker 6: out there, So I think they'll get done. But I
Speaker 6: can see them battling a little bit negotiations.
Speaker 4: When's the last time Jerry Jones lost a key player?
Speaker 2: You want? That's never?
Speaker 4: Never?
Speaker 3: And the truth is they knew this when he set
Speaker 3: the record, so not like it's just coming up this year,
Speaker 3: but they've been in the room for a minute, like,
Speaker 3: you know what, we know that we have this one
Speaker 3: and we got a whole year year and have to
Speaker 3: get this figured out they know Ceedee Lamb. On the
Speaker 3: other side, they've already extended the fifth year option for him,
Speaker 3: and Ceedee Lamb has already gone on record that Dallas
Speaker 3: is where he wants to be, but it is in
Speaker 3: the back of his mind. He's worried about it because
Speaker 3: he wants to know, Man, how do I fit into
Speaker 3: my position group? Well, in his draft year, you have
Speaker 3: a guy like Justin Jefferson that's gonna kill everything when
Speaker 3: his time comes. And Justin Jefferson was picked after CD Lamb,
Speaker 3: so let that sink in. But when you see CD,
Speaker 3: do you believe that he's one of those guys that
Speaker 3: right now could at the market as you know that
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to do with tray Von Diggs. And
Speaker 3: how if he is that and how important is this
Speaker 3: year for Ceedee Lamb If he is going to get
Speaker 3: that market setting contract, he better reset it before Justin
Speaker 3: Jefferson because I think it's gonna be hard for somebody
Speaker 3: to go in there and say, hey, man, I want
Speaker 3: more than this guy, just based off what Minnesota may
Speaker 3: do for a guy like Justin Jefferson and the record,
Speaker 3: the number all that speaks for itself and that's no
Speaker 3: shot at CD, Lamb one has just been way more
Speaker 3: productive than the other. Right, So I know everybody wants
Speaker 3: to have the like we're gonna reset it and whatever.
Speaker 3: But I think whatever Justin Jefferson is about to get
Speaker 3: is going to be so outraged that teams are gonna
Speaker 3: look and be like, I don't know, Deshaun.
Speaker 2: Watson exactly, that's what.
Speaker 6: They like.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But because what like basically, what Justin Jefferson has done
Speaker 3: over the last few years has been remarkable.
Speaker 4: Historic, It has been a historic level. Ceenee Lamb, and
Speaker 4: I kind of go back to what you said, wants
Speaker 4: to be here, so you at least have that that
Speaker 4: you in my mind, knowing that a player wants to
Speaker 4: be here, you can find some way to get there.
Speaker 4: Even with Dak Prescott, see the whole time, I want
Speaker 4: to be here, and I still maintain that he believed
Speaker 4: that he wants to be here. I think there's certain
Speaker 4: guys who understand the power that star and the seven
Speaker 4: you know appearing national appearances on I think, you know
Speaker 4: CD a Texas guy. I'm not worried about that one
Speaker 4: as much as I'm worried about Diggs that's the one
Speaker 4: I'm concerned about, Cede Lamb. I think they're gonna find
Speaker 4: a way to get it done. And then you know,
Speaker 4: if I'm Jerry, Joe or Jerry seems like, hey, may Lean,
Speaker 4: you can go to dak Leland on your boy. But
Speaker 4: Diggs is the one I do worry about because I
Speaker 4: that's going to be a very interesting conversation. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I just that's that's to me and how you guys
Speaker 4: feel and being weigh in here as well. How many
Speaker 4: years have they been searching to find a player like this?
Speaker 4: He's a young.
Speaker 5: Really, that's really the last mainstay at corner for us.
Speaker 4: You know, this is not a guy that you can
Speaker 4: let out the building go well, we'll just get a
Speaker 4: camp pick and we'll go out. No, man, these dudes
Speaker 4: are hard to find. They're very insa passing league. I
Speaker 4: really put a priority on that. To me, I would
Speaker 4: I would if I own this football team, I'd be
Speaker 4: corner Stephen. Get this thing done.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 4: We cannot be out here searching for corners in the
Speaker 4: National Football League.
Speaker 2: No, not.
Speaker 3: When you have one that's good, like you can go
Speaker 3: search and then you're gonna end up with you know,
Speaker 3: submit to your guys. But when you got a guy
Speaker 3: who could turn take the ball over like that and
Speaker 3: continues to get better year in a year out with
Speaker 3: whatever it was his weakness the year before, then you
Speaker 3: got to make sure you keep that guy on your roster.
Speaker 2: And that is Trayvon Diggs. That is there's no question
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: When you want, like when you're playing the game and
Speaker 3: you're offensive coordinator, you're looking at Trayvon Diggie saying I
Speaker 3: don't know, like I don't know what rocks we can
Speaker 3: run over there, But make sure make sure before you
Speaker 3: throw it there your comfort that your receivers in the
Speaker 3: right position, that you got the right velocity on the ball,
Speaker 3: because if you don't, it's likely coming back and you're
Speaker 3: gonna be trying to.
Speaker 2: Make a tackle.
Speaker 4: And he plays now, he plays.
Speaker 3: Done miss games, has played ninety percent of the snaps
Speaker 3: and just again based off of his number since he's
Speaker 3: coming to the league, league leading in interceptions.
Speaker 2: So, like you said, you can't find that.
Speaker 3: And there's no one more polarizing as far as their
Speaker 3: opinion of a guy's talent than Trayvon Diggs. A lot
Speaker 3: of people's a double moved, you know, all of the
Speaker 3: other things, but still is a playmaker on your defense.
Speaker 3: But the elephant in the room, guys, we're not just
Speaker 3: gonna gloss over this, because it's an elephant in the room,
Speaker 3: all right. And when I was a little kid, I
Speaker 3: used to go to the circus and the guy with
Speaker 3: the big shovel, he'd be scooping up the poop.
Speaker 2: Stephen Jones is right. Steven Jones is right there with
Speaker 2: scooping up the poop right now.
Speaker 3: And you're gonna have to get Michael Parson signed to
Speaker 3: a mega deal. You're looking at all these deals right
Speaker 3: now at they're on the horizon. The big briefcase is
Speaker 3: the biggest deal that you you got to get done.
Speaker 2: You got you castle.
Speaker 6: He's gonna be up there with you know, the Aaron
Speaker 6: Aaron Donald right, he's getting like thirty summer year and
Speaker 6: rightfully so he affects games, and that's exactly what Parsons does.
Speaker 4: So worried about that.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to do not right now.
Speaker 5: I'm not Yes, you got some time right now, guess
Speaker 5: some time.
Speaker 4: But it's what is bosaat That's first thing you know,
Speaker 4: what is to do is gonna go ahead and hit
Speaker 4: the market. And I'm not worried about that one either.
Speaker 4: I'm really I'm really not worried about these right these two,
Speaker 4: these two guys, you gotta deal right now. Three dak
Speaker 4: digs and and and UH and C and TD. I'm
Speaker 4: worried about that. Parsons will take care of itself, even
Speaker 4: if all you got to do is throw a franchise
Speaker 4: tag on the guy. I mean, you can at least
Speaker 4: and then he can. Don't called the city in you
Speaker 4: come to camp and the city and if you want to,
Speaker 4: I'll get to that when I can. These three are
Speaker 4: going to take more presence in importance because how you
Speaker 4: get these three done will also dictate what you're what,
Speaker 4: how your approach is with So.
Speaker 6: You think this this team can have the highest paid corner,
Speaker 6: d lineman, quarterback possibly and wide receiver in the league.
Speaker 4: You had the highest paid quarterback. You then you paid Zeke,
Speaker 4: made him the highest paid running pack. You had Cooper
Speaker 4: tied to the mark for Martin, Martin had Hearns.
Speaker 6: You had You know, you get all these players that
Speaker 6: you can't really build on because you're paying all those
Speaker 6: guys that money.
Speaker 4: I don't know where Bland comes in that's where you
Speaker 4: pay a Tyrone Bland. That's when you drafted Tyler Smith.
Speaker 4: And that's what they've talked about. It's player development. That's
Speaker 4: why I said it earlier. You got to be able
Speaker 4: to draft of outside of injuries too. Like Jalen Smith
Speaker 4: and Layton Vanders were two very good draft picks. Yes,
Speaker 4: they just couldn't stay healthy for the most part, but
Speaker 4: then you see lighton coming back. So again this team
Speaker 4: drafts well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then when you pay guys like that, that
Speaker 3: is going to have to be your main focus, like
Speaker 3: who can we get around them on a cheaper deal
Speaker 3: to make sure that you know that we're still competitive.
Speaker 3: And I think they've proven that they are able to
Speaker 3: do that. In order to pay these players, were gonna
Speaker 3: have to pay some bills. We're gonna take our first
Speaker 3: break and be right back and talk about the ambassador,
Speaker 3: the guy that's gonna be talking these guys in to
Speaker 3: re sign it with the Cowboys, and as Dak Prescott,
Speaker 3: we'll be right back after this.
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Speaker 2: And knew it's going to be in California.
Speaker 5: You say you're going to California a lot of month.
Speaker 2: Then you look so sad. He's trying not to incriminate himself.
Speaker 4: The hotel is a nice hotel. Yeah, but you're there
Speaker 4: all day, man, That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I can tired there all day all day.
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Speaker 4: You got to get over there, get your parking spot.
Speaker 4: Basically there all day and it's not like it used
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Speaker 4: can't stay there. So you basically you got to come
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Speaker 4: rest of it. But you basically people think, hey, man, yeah,
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Speaker 4: I want to wake up at seven and walk down
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Speaker 4: like sounds like California is horrible. Sounds like you should
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Speaker 5: And the same got him again, got him again?
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Speaker 4: all surface son.
Speaker 2: All right, well, the.
Speaker 3: NFC least has gone back to the NFC beast.
Speaker 2: And look, the.
Speaker 3: Conversation about Dak, it always somehow goes to a guy
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. But I'm gonna not allow this to happen today. Uh.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, it's gonna happen anyway.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The thing is Aaron Rodgers has left the NFC and
Speaker 2: is now in the a f C.
Speaker 3: So the NFC is wide open for the elite quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Tom Brady's retired, Aaron Rodgers moved on, and so now
Speaker 3: you have a bunch of young guns and now Dak
Speaker 3: and Kirk cousins Uh in the NFC.
Speaker 2: Is this the year for Dak?
Speaker 3: Guys, as you look at his career going into year eight,
Speaker 3: is this the year for him to just kind of
Speaker 3: put himself into that elite playing. They've done everything for
Speaker 3: him as far as bringing in a talented wide receiver
Speaker 3: and Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 2: Your young guns are ready to go. Is this the year?
Speaker 3: And do you look at Dak and you survey the
Speaker 3: NFC and say he's one of the top in the NFC.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna start with you just based off of
Speaker 3: that look you just gain. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's ever been a question if he's one of the
Speaker 3: top in the NFC. I believe that he's been that
Speaker 3: way since his rookie year when him and Zeke made
Speaker 3: the initial connection. I think he's been that way. I
Speaker 3: think it has been a little shaky throughout the years.
Speaker 3: Two years now with injuries. One he missed the whole season,
Speaker 3: than last year he had the hand injury and he
Speaker 3: missed five games. So you look at it and you're saying, okay, Look,
Speaker 3: in order for dak to now be the top guy
Speaker 3: in the NFC, with the Tom Brady out, with the
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers out, he's gonna have to at least go
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl because, like you said, the guy
Speaker 3: up the street in the same conference, i mean, same division,
Speaker 3: just went to the super Bowl. Right, So the standard
Speaker 3: is there for like, hey man, you want to be
Speaker 3: better than then whoever was the best. You gotta make
Speaker 3: it to the super Bowl. And I think that he
Speaker 3: does have the weapons around him. I think the question
Speaker 3: mark for is he ready and can he do it?
Speaker 3: Because you say he has all the pieces, is the
Speaker 3: offensive line If you cannot protect Dak right, who has
Speaker 3: changed since he broke his up, broke his leg, he
Speaker 3: has changed.
Speaker 2: He has not been as mobile as he used to be.
Speaker 3: If you cannot protect him and have him feel comfortable
Speaker 3: in the pocket, then you're not gonna get the best Dak.
Speaker 3: And I think that is the one thing that may
Speaker 3: hold him back. So hopefully new offensive line coach. We
Speaker 3: got Tyler Smith, we got Tyrant. Hopefully he's gonna be healthy.
Speaker 3: You got Terry Steell. I see him out there working
Speaker 3: out looking good. So hopefully the offensive line can can
Speaker 3: hold up. And if that's the case, then I think
Speaker 3: this is a year where you see the competition for
Speaker 3: Dak being the best in the NFC. We'll be asking
Speaker 3: that question.
Speaker 4: If I'm Dak Prescott. After the NBA Finals, I called
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler and just say can I come visit with you?
Speaker 4: Because Jimmy Butler is he's never win again v But
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler is a straight dog who's a leader, and
Speaker 4: his teams play with togetherness, and that's what I'm looking
Speaker 4: for for Dak Prescott as a quarterback. Now that you're
Speaker 4: working with Mike McCarthy, how can you bring this culture
Speaker 4: and you guys have a togetherness about you. That's where
Speaker 4: he needs to be. Forget you have many a MVP
Speaker 4: throwing for this or that. These opportunities that you have
Speaker 4: are running out in your career. And I said, I
Speaker 4: look at a guy like Butler and what they have
Speaker 4: and the way he goes about his business, and I
Speaker 4: think of Dak and that kind of fashion, like Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Jimmy the best player, but nobody grinds like Jimmy. And
Speaker 4: we've known for you, Dak is a grinder. Dak puts
Speaker 4: in the work. That's what I would like to see
Speaker 4: him become more of as a player like that. And
Speaker 4: then of course look at where Jimmy Butler and Miami
Speaker 4: heat all right now, they done shocked everybody tied the
Speaker 4: NBA finals. And this is, by the way, people forget
Speaker 4: the second time he's played in the finals. Houston, Texas home.
Speaker 4: By the way, Jimmy Butler, that's.
Speaker 2: A damn good comp though it is.
Speaker 3: I'm just just giving it up.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 6: But you know, as much as our rag, you know,
Speaker 6: on Dak Prescott, Yeah, he does have I feel like
Speaker 6: this will be a bounce back year for him.
Speaker 5: You know, I could be wrong, But I don't think
Speaker 5: he's ever you know, back.
Speaker 6: To back seasons has thrown you know, all these interceptions,
Speaker 6: So I feel like he will bounce back.
Speaker 5: Like you mentioned McCray, he has the pieces around him.
Speaker 6: He got a deep Threatned Cook, she got that do
Speaker 6: it all guy in cdee Lamb. Hopefully Michael Gallup can
Speaker 6: come around, got a tight end piece. Hopefully that offensive
Speaker 6: line can can withstand some pressure out there and give
Speaker 6: him time because you know, in my opinion.
Speaker 5: It's going to be on his shoulders.
Speaker 6: You know, we talk about the run game. Mccarfey always
Speaker 6: talking about were gonna be running the football. They're not
Speaker 6: going to run the football like that, all right. I mean,
Speaker 6: you're not paying this got forty some million and the
Speaker 6: guy that's the head coach, that's playing, that's calling the players.
Speaker 6: I've never really ran the football like that in his
Speaker 6: career while he was in Green Bay and now here
Speaker 6: in Dallas. So they're going to throw the football. It
Speaker 6: is going to be on his shoulders. But to me,
Speaker 6: it's all gonna come down to can he make those decisions.
Speaker 6: Can he make those great decisions out there to keep
Speaker 6: this team rolling instead of compounding the issue you know,
Speaker 6: we saw it last year when when things started getting
Speaker 6: a little shaky out there, there's one interception, all right, now,
Speaker 6: I got to force this sit in here and here
Speaker 6: comes another interception. Then it rolls downhill from there. So
Speaker 6: to me, it's all about the decision making. He has
Speaker 6: the ability, he has the smarts up there. He's a
Speaker 6: great leader, one of the best leaders I've ever been around.
Speaker 6: So he has all that working for him. Is can
Speaker 6: he make the great decisions out there to lead this
Speaker 6: team forward? And I believe this will be a bounce
Speaker 6: back year.
Speaker 4: And he's got a Super Bowl play caller.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and he does and he does. But Danny,
Speaker 3: I want to I want to go back, Tony.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to something.
Speaker 3: Super Bowl when it coaches on the roster, I mean
Speaker 3: you got I mean you got Daan Quinn, you got
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy. I mean, so what you got a super
Speaker 3: Bowl winning owner.
Speaker 2: It's not relevant, you know what do you know?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm crazy?
Speaker 2: He went not even the same he not even run
Speaker 2: the same place.
Speaker 5: Disrespect on this show that we have for killing Moore
Speaker 5: is I just can't tell you that.
Speaker 4: I can't believe.
Speaker 2: No, you know, what you brought up.
Speaker 3: You brought up a great point about the roster and
Speaker 3: how they've upgrade the wide receiver position and how things
Speaker 3: are looking up as far as the production in the
Speaker 3: passing game, but also where the offensive line is. I
Speaker 3: mean that's the great divide.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Then we know that Dak can't, like any quarterback, can't
Speaker 3: deal with a bunch of guy pressure on you. The
Speaker 3: only person that can do that is that guy in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: He seemed to be the only one that could be successful.
Speaker 3: Is still get beat up. He the only one that
Speaker 3: could do that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But when you look at this, I mean, being a
Speaker 3: former NFL player, when you look at this roster, dude,
Speaker 3: has the Cowboys done a good enough job of formulating
Speaker 3: and put putting a roster together that can reach that
Speaker 3: championship level?
Speaker 2: Not only that, is this roster good enough to compete?
Speaker 3: Hell, let's just start in the NFC East, because that's
Speaker 3: where most of the problems are. Listen, If you don't
Speaker 3: get if they if their offensive line is is good,
Speaker 3: is they believe it can be, then I think they're fine.
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys will be fine from what I
Speaker 3: see of the offensive line, I don't know that we have.
Speaker 3: Those pieces are the continuity to be as successful as
Speaker 3: we can be running the ball or protecting Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3: I think some of those interceptions that were thrown last year,
Speaker 3: they was under some pressure. I think that our running
Speaker 3: game when Tony Pouler went out against San fran the
Speaker 3: gaps were not being open, right, and that.
Speaker 2: Was throughout the entire season.
Speaker 3: You brought Jason Peters in at forty and we couldn't
Speaker 3: even figure he was a rotating player, Like you just don't.
Speaker 3: You don't see that type of stuff in the NFL, right,
Speaker 3: So if your offensive line is not up to par,
Speaker 3: then you won't be competing against a team like Philly,
Speaker 3: maybe not even the Giants, because that is one of
Speaker 3: the main points of you paying your quarterback forty million
Speaker 3: dollars because you need to give him time to get
Speaker 3: the ball to a Cooks of Ceedee Lamb, a Michael
Speaker 3: Gallup or to open up those holes for Tony Pouler.
Speaker 3: And if you don't have that then then you will
Speaker 3: have a hard season. So if they if they as
Speaker 3: good as they believe, then I'm all right. But if not, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be. Yeah, We're gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 3: When you look at this roster, what do you what
Speaker 3: do you think? Do you see talent? Do you say, hey,
Speaker 3: there's still some holes that need to be filled, or
Speaker 3: we're a long way away from making to making it
Speaker 3: to Vegas at this point time.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna use that word, the word I used to
Speaker 4: get this togetherness. Last year, I thought they had a
Speaker 4: good locker room and that was minus the wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Talent.
Speaker 4: Talent was not where we all thought it needed to
Speaker 4: be in it and it came back and bitter. If
Speaker 4: these guys can figure out a way to play together
Speaker 4: and and really get established a better culture. They don't
Speaker 4: have a culture of finishing, you know, That's that's one
Speaker 4: of their problems. They got to get it togetherness and
Speaker 4: the culture of finishing, because what have we seen in
Speaker 4: the last two years. They have not finished and the
Speaker 4: way they have finished the year has been bad. So
Speaker 4: showing you can get this done, the whole roster construction.
Speaker 4: Do we have this guy or that guy? I mean,
Speaker 4: and I know it's not fair to compare them to
Speaker 4: Kansas City, but they had a culture up there that
Speaker 4: they just Okay, we're gonna plug people this is your job.
Speaker 4: Go do your job, and you go forth from there.
Speaker 4: I go back when I watched those NFL films about
Speaker 4: you know, your uncle Joe Green, and there was always dudes,
Speaker 4: who this is my job, And that's how chuckn No'
Speaker 4: had it. Man do come in here, gets your job done.
Speaker 4: This is the culture.
Speaker 2: This is the standard.
Speaker 4: Go get it done. And so to me, I look
Speaker 4: at that, that's what these guys have to go do.
Speaker 4: Rodney Harrison. When I've talked to Rodney about how they
Speaker 4: got things done in New England, they was always changing
Speaker 4: the roster and that was always guys, what does this
Speaker 4: guy fit here? Hey, man, this is the standard. This
Speaker 4: is what we need you to do. Go out here
Speaker 4: and do your thing, and we're gonna trust you do
Speaker 4: your job. So the Cowboys can get that. And I
Speaker 4: hope that that's where Mike is. I think Mike has
Speaker 4: done a really good job in managing this roster. Supposedly
Speaker 4: after the first year, keep that going and try to
Speaker 4: take that next step.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent on that one. Dude.
Speaker 6: When you talk about finishing and you talk about the
Speaker 6: last two years when they went into the playoffs and
Speaker 6: get San fran I mean, you go in there the
Speaker 6: first year, the penalties, you know, hurt this team and
Speaker 6: they couldn't finish. And you go into the next year,
Speaker 6: you go up to San Francisco. A couple injuries here
Speaker 6: and there, but they just weren't They just weren't playing
Speaker 6: their best ball at the right time. And to me,
Speaker 6: that comes along with the leaders in locker room, and
Speaker 6: I think they have, you know, that great mix of
Speaker 6: veteran leadership as well as young talent to go out
Speaker 6: there and if they can get that togetherness, like you
Speaker 6: just said, if they can bring all that together. They
Speaker 6: got the head guy who's he's the head coach and
Speaker 6: Colin plays now, so they're kind of under his leadership
Speaker 6: as well, and he's done a great job these past
Speaker 6: couple of years. If they can get together on that
Speaker 6: and just find a way to finish these games, especially
Speaker 6: when you look at towards the end of the year,
Speaker 6: it's always a many almost lost against Houston or they're
Speaker 6: losing these games that they should just demolish these teams.
Speaker 6: If we can find a way to finish the season
Speaker 6: on a high note, enter the playoffs, you know, going
Speaker 6: on a high note, I think that'll prove huge dividends
Speaker 6: for this team.
Speaker 5: But you've seen the.
Speaker 6: Last couple of years, it's always these last you know,
Speaker 6: three or four games, they end up losing.
Speaker 4: To the Commanders.
Speaker 5: You know, going into the playoffs, you can't have that
Speaker 5: mojo going in there. You can't limp or walk into
Speaker 5: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You got to be riding on a high stream.
Speaker 6: And if they're able to do that going into this year,
Speaker 6: I think they can make moves in a.
Speaker 2: Turn of church Is talking about the AFC Invitational. Goodness great.
Speaker 3: As you talk about limping through something, they lived straight
Speaker 3: through the AMC and develop.
Speaker 4: You got to develop your guys, man. I mean, I
Speaker 4: go back to being at that Super Bowl forty five
Speaker 4: at Jerry World with Mike McCarthy's Packers. I mean they
Speaker 4: lost Donald Driver during the game. They had a good
Speaker 4: running back and who's having a Pro Bowl here? And
Speaker 4: Ryan Grant who got hurt earlier. I mean, you just
Speaker 4: you gonna need dudes, Charles he got hurt me. So,
Speaker 4: I mean you just look at the Miami he Tyler
Speaker 4: hero out here's just Ducky Robinson stepping up. So along
Speaker 4: the way, you need different dudes and that team you
Speaker 4: played on, Jackson, then you going need some guys a lord,
Speaker 4: I mean dron Blair who saw that?
Speaker 2: I didn't see that ship? Nah? You mean now?
Speaker 3: But you know you bring up you bring up an
Speaker 3: interesting point because I'm sitting there watching OTAs and I'm
Speaker 3: seeing CD, Cook and MG all together, got their helmets
Speaker 3: together and everything, and they walking together, they doing their thing,
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking to myself, we are one injury away
Speaker 3: from jayling tober to send me.
Speaker 2: For Hoko being your third.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the reality, and that's that's fine.
Speaker 4: So you need those guys to do their part every day.
Speaker 4: I mean, you two played, but you need these dudes. Hey,
Speaker 4: are you serious? Are you going about your job the
Speaker 4: way you need to? I mean, what's old boy, Malcolm Butler.
Speaker 4: They's a prime example right there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: Nobody knew who this dude was on game day, okay
Speaker 4: when he made the pick, Literally, me and a bunch
Speaker 4: of folks over there in the media area because it
Speaker 4: held us before they let us go out on the field.
Speaker 4: Who where's he from? But they coached him up, and then,
Speaker 4: you know, give the player credit. He allowed himself to
Speaker 4: be coached up. Knew what he needed to do. Russell
Speaker 4: throwde a stupid.
Speaker 2: Pick and the rest is what they call history.
Speaker 4: But that to me is when we talk about roster
Speaker 4: construct because people want to look at names. O, get
Speaker 4: d Hot, go get that man. You better start Casimi
Speaker 4: Fooko and Jaalen Tober and you know boss Man Fat
Speaker 4: Sam Williams, these other guys here at some point time, Man,
Speaker 4: they are going to have to make a contribution to
Speaker 4: your football team. And while Mike McCarthy got right, was
Speaker 4: it twenty first? By that was that coaching ranking crazy?
Speaker 4: Mike since he's been here, has done a good job
Speaker 4: of developing guy. I mean Terrence Still. Now you got
Speaker 4: people using draft picks in the first round to go
Speaker 4: get dudes like Terrence Steel, and they've developed them. You
Speaker 4: gotta have these guys ready to go. I mean even
Speaker 4: the Eagles, mean, I give them credit, they have developed
Speaker 4: guys too. You start looking at the teams, who are
Speaker 4: who who.
Speaker 2: Are who's playing?
Speaker 4: Well? They'll tell you people, Man, say whatever you want
Speaker 4: about Howard.
Speaker 2: They have developed people.
Speaker 4: Which is why he's sitting here with two coaches now
Speaker 4: that he's hired, in their second years of taking this
Speaker 4: team to the to the Super Bowl. We can sit
Speaker 4: up here and dislike them all we want to, but
Speaker 4: right now you could look, hey, what's the standard at Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: And somewhere in this country a toilet blow just flushing,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna look on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 3: We're gonna look on the other side of the ball
Speaker 3: and talk about something that has no question marks in
Speaker 3: it at all, and that is the Cowboys defense. Coming
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Speaker 6: L s U.
Speaker 4: From now on, he gonna be my L Boston the
Speaker 4: L s U Wildcat. So Kelvin has been tweeting, but
Speaker 4: this was the one tweet that it made me kind
Speaker 4: of like okay. So Jordan Lewis sent out the tweet
Speaker 4: three days ago. No, it was with the Junie first
Speaker 4: Junie first, and he says, Trey Gilly, dB JK Lick,
Speaker 4: Donald is Bell, we got the best in the league,
Speaker 4: bro one hundred and he's responding to des Bryant. Jordan
Speaker 4: Lewis is Kelvin Joseph comes back. He quote he says
Speaker 4: boss man fat Let's not forget him.
Speaker 2: And sounds like they forgot him.
Speaker 5: They did to me, that's what sound like to mean.
Speaker 2: Hey, bro, listen, drama.
Speaker 3: I like this what I want to tell you, bro, Hey,
Speaker 3: just focus on your special Team's role right now, because
Speaker 3: that's that's what they pegged you as at the moment,
Speaker 3: right And once you start trying to you know, hey man,
Speaker 3: I'm more than this and I need to be on
Speaker 3: that's when you start slacking on both, all right. So
Speaker 3: make sure on special teams you out there doing what
Speaker 3: they paying you to do, which is be a core
Speaker 3: special teams player, a gunner or flyer who's gonna make
Speaker 3: those tackles. And when you get your shot to get
Speaker 3: out their defense, then you go out there and prove
Speaker 3: your point.
Speaker 2: What happened was you got that option that shot last year.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell y'all what he did, like like I
Speaker 3: do with your your tweets, I forgot he probably forgot
Speaker 3: to tweet that.
Speaker 2: From now, I'm.
Speaker 4: Back in that mode. I was just going through a phase.
Speaker 4: We can't downplay God's gift. Time to show I'm really
Speaker 4: him after critics, I accept it all back on my dog.
Speaker 3: He also tweets, oh goodness, that's what he realized. That's
Speaker 3: when he realized he wasn't in the burner. He had
Speaker 3: come back home starting he start getting the comments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, he says, I want to see everybody shine.
Speaker 4: If you get yours, make sure I get minds. If
Speaker 4: that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 4: Now. On May twenty second, he tweeted out, I'm understanding
Speaker 4: it all now, y'all. Finn to be in trouble.
Speaker 2: He understanding it all now.
Speaker 3: That took it some time, but I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: we're glad with his sticky stuff, you know. So if
Speaker 3: that's what he's seeing, then that's what's going on. But nonetheless,
Speaker 3: I think what Jordan Lewis was trying to say and
Speaker 3: what everybody is seeing that the Cowboys have a special
Speaker 3: mix of players. If you look at you know, from
Speaker 3: JK to bringing in Stefan Gilmore to what we were
Speaker 3: talking about with tray Von Diggs, this front line with
Speaker 3: Mazi coming in, how special they can be. And this
Speaker 3: defense on paper right now has the potential to be
Speaker 3: a very special defense.
Speaker 2: Do you see the.
Speaker 3: Same thing because obviously with Dan Quinn's influence over this defense.
Speaker 3: These guys can be top five in the league. Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I saw it last year. I've been saying
Speaker 3: that we're gonna be a top ten defense for the
Speaker 3: last couple of years. And you know, the stats are
Speaker 3: based off total yards giving up on all the other stuff.
Speaker 3: But we can all say with the eye test that
Speaker 3: when you watch this team play that they are a
Speaker 3: top ten defense. Like when you go against you say,
Speaker 3: you know what our defense against whatever offense we're playing,
Speaker 3: most of the time you're picking our defense over them,
Speaker 3: unless you're playing Kansas City or sometimes Philly. You know,
Speaker 3: just last year, but our defense has been top notch.
Speaker 3: And now you just added a steph on Gilmore. You
Speaker 3: got the first round picking Mizie Smith to clog up
Speaker 3: the middle, which we thought had been the weakness for
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. So absolutely from the top five,
Speaker 3: top five, Dan quince here.
Speaker 2: Five, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 6: I mean, they got all the pieces, you know, d line,
Speaker 6: they can rush the quarterback, they gut secondary back there
Speaker 6: that can hold her own.
Speaker 5: So what's not like to like about this this defense?
Speaker 6: So I can see them being the top five even
Speaker 6: statistically why I can see them being the top five.
Speaker 5: But real quick question, did he say CJ's name in there?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just saying now they don't look at him
Speaker 5: as that.
Speaker 3: Are we a top five defense? If Kevin Joseph was
Speaker 3: out there at cornerback.
Speaker 2: No, I just don't. I don't see it, Persont. I'm
Speaker 2: saying what I've seen.
Speaker 3: But when you when you go across the roster and
Speaker 3: all those people that were named that you got your
Speaker 3: roster out there, any one of those people that Jordan
Speaker 3: Lewis plugged in, you'll be like, you know what, we
Speaker 3: probably the top five and then you know, so like
Speaker 3: you no offense to the guy just telling like this,
Speaker 3: you know that's what it's go out there and ball out,
Speaker 3: and then that'll changed the conversation.
Speaker 4: When you're talking about that. Okay, Trey and Gilly wanting
Speaker 4: to Okay, so you know you got dB play that
Speaker 4: he deserves, you know, Okay, you got Jordan Lewis. I
Speaker 4: mean you start looking at you know, you start looking
Speaker 4: at who your your top three guys. He's not in
Speaker 4: the top three, not in the top four, so he
Speaker 4: can say, don't forget me, Well, you got forgot by
Speaker 4: your teammate play.
Speaker 3: When he got his shot last year. That is what
Speaker 3: got him in the position that he's in now. Can
Speaker 3: he get better?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But like right now, how is that when Jackson did, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to do this?
Speaker 8: Whatever happened, Trevor Lawrens was like, oh, there, there you
Speaker 8: go whatever, big old red blake wherever he was, big
Speaker 8: old red black, Like, they went there and they were scored,
Speaker 8: and he got benched.
Speaker 4: And then he just became full time you know, special
Speaker 4: teams and that in that game, and he played well
Speaker 4: and right in that role. But so when he says,
Speaker 4: don't forget about me, what's the on line? It says
Speaker 4: your action should speak so loud. You don't have to
Speaker 4: say anything.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 4: What we see on the fields, parcels and all ain't
Speaker 4: go by is what I see. What I see right
Speaker 4: now is Kevin Joseph is a corner. This is not
Speaker 4: cutting it for a guy who is a second round pick.
Speaker 4: He has been he has been a disappointing player at corner.
Speaker 4: As a special teamer, he has earned his spot on
Speaker 4: the team. You do need him, you need him, he
Speaker 4: does help you. But when you want to say, hey man,
Speaker 4: don't forget me. Go out there and show people that
Speaker 4: you don't.
Speaker 3: Need to be Let me be clear about this too,
Speaker 3: all right, Kelvin Joseph, all right, I've been in your position,
Speaker 3: my brother.
Speaker 2: All right. I was on special team.
Speaker 3: I got my chance to start and listen when I
Speaker 3: lost my spot. You ain't see me out there tweeting
Speaker 3: talk about that. I say, man, I know exactly where
Speaker 3: I need to be at. Bro put me back those
Speaker 3: special teams. Let me go ahead and make my money.
Speaker 3: But some people just can't. They don't understand. Hey, man,
Speaker 3: what's your play. That's how you can shut the naysayers up.
Speaker 3: But your play didn't prove it. So now you got
Speaker 3: another shot. Maybe, guys, that's gonna be Uh. This is
Speaker 3: an off season wrap on the players lounge and when
Speaker 3: we return after the this little short break that we're
Speaker 3: gonna get my man, I have a ten Uh are
Speaker 3: you gonna Are you going to survival mode anytime soon?
Speaker 3: Or what's going on with you? I'm family telling the.
Speaker 2: Daughter, what about you? What you got going on in
Speaker 2: the off season? Just do it the game? Ask you
Speaker 2: it is, do it the game.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's from Washington.
Speaker 2: That's that's not prop jokes.
Speaker 3: The game, so I can't put my pinky figure in
Speaker 3: there and say we're going to Italy. But hey, Orange Beach, Alabama,
Speaker 3: we on our wife.
Speaker 4: And by the way, you know about the big event
Speaker 4: coming up?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, this Saturday, Nibbling Mingle Uh.
Speaker 3: It is benefiting scholarship for the University of North ten
Speaker 3: and students getting a scholarship that have been affected by
Speaker 3: parents that have cancer.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be at the Highland Hotel this Saturday. All
Speaker 3: of Hall of Famers galore will be there. My uncle
Speaker 3: Joe will be there, Charles Haley, Tony Dorr said a
Speaker 3: lot of guys would be there for this week. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be special, man. So if you can make it
Speaker 3: out to the Holland Hotel on Saturday at seven o'clock.
Speaker 2: It will be a great event.
Speaker 4: Let me add this, Okay, when you go to this event,
Speaker 4: Joe Uncle Joe is Joe Green. He make the guys
Speaker 4: where the jacket the Hall of Fame day. So they're
Speaker 4: walking here's Tony door and you can walk up and
Speaker 4: talk to Tony Doris. That Earl Campbell, I mean it
Speaker 4: is Randy White. I mean dude, the best of the
Speaker 4: best are there. It is better than any autograph show
Speaker 4: that you're going to. It is work. It is truly
Speaker 4: worth it.
Speaker 2: Man. It's better.
Speaker 4: You got better access to these guys than you would
Speaker 4: if you tried to go to camp for Football Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame. No lie, right there, man, it's a hell
Speaker 4: of an event if you love football, old school guys
Speaker 4: to respect them and they all appreciate the people that
Speaker 4: come up there and really just say him and thank
Speaker 4: you man, thank you for what you did. You made
Speaker 4: me a football fan. So it's a great event.
Speaker 2: Great event, and.
Speaker 5: Your boys hosting it.
Speaker 3: I n hey, man, but that's a rap man. We'll
Speaker 3: see you on the other side for the Players Lounge.
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