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Speaker 3: Week twelve is upon us, Dan Rubinstein, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: A dozen weeks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back? I'm very good, ty, I'm very excited for

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Speaker 1: this week. I have a lot of thoughts about this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to connect with you about this week.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm always buying more gas.

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Speaker 3: Felt good to get that out. Oregon still the number

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Speaker 3: But more to come to come in the playoff rankings, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this schedule, Tie, and I'm seeing, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it's a spinalis Saturday, Colon, watch your back.

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Speaker 1: I'm just look, Pitt might have an Eli Holstein injury

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Speaker 1: They've been They've been in real close games against I

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Speaker 3: that they're suddenly going to be able to just go

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Speaker 3: out there and you know, take it to another good

435
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Speaker 3: defense like Tennessee.

436
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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I understand your line of thinking,

437
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna say what has Georgia done, you can

438
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Speaker 1: similarly say what has Tennessee done? As I continue on

439
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: the road this year, where has Nico's head been on

440
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: the road this year? And Nico coming off of an

441
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: injury in which Josh HiPE said he's going to be

442
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: good to go, he should be good to go against

443
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Speaker 1: Georgia on the road this year a little bit sluggish,

444
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Speaker 1: especially I think in that second half against Oklahoma. Lose

445
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Speaker 1: to Arkansas, and the NC State game was I mean

446
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: again seven years ago, but it was also neutral site.

447
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee's played two true road games this year, that's it,

448
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Speaker 1: and that was after a bye on the road losing

449
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Speaker 1: to Arkansas.

450
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Speaker 3: The path has been different for Tennessee this year. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 3: it feels like a similar ending point if we're comparing

452
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Speaker 3: them to Georgia in that the offense is just not

453
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Speaker 3: as scary as you might think, like Tennessee this year

454
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: is scoring a shade over twenty eight points per game

455
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Speaker 3: versus Power Conference teams. For what it's worth, that's about

456
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Speaker 3: where they were a year ago when they were a

457
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Speaker 3: good eight and four bowl team. Seasons are different. That's

458
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Speaker 3: not to say this is an eight and four team.

459
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: They're not going to be an eight and four team,

460
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Speaker 3: but the point stands this is an offense that also

461
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Speaker 3: has some issues. I kind of feel like this ends

462
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Speaker 3: up as a rock fight between two defenses, and I

463
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Speaker 3: still think I trust the Georgia offense more in crunch time,

464
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Speaker 3: especially if they're at home. I've got this like twenty

465
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Speaker 3: four seventeen Georgia.

466
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Speaker 1: So here's the worry with taking Georgia. The worry with

467
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Speaker 1: taking Georgia is they haven't been able to do anything

468
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Speaker 1: on offense, largely because of how beat up the offensive

469
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Speaker 1: line has been. And we saw Olemiss completely overwhelm Georgia

470
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Speaker 1: upfront and overwhelmed Carson Beck and whatever Georgia was trying

471
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Speaker 1: to do, it was just a complete, a rhythmic performance.

472
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Speaker 1: They score what ten points against ole Miss on the road.

473
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Speaker 1: I think you're right to point out what has Georgia

474
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Speaker 1: done this year? I think you're right to point out,

475
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Speaker 1: or anybody's right to say. Like so, we're talking about

476
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Speaker 1: a beat up Georgia offensive line now going up against

477
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Speaker 1: one of the scariest, if not the scariest defensive fronts

478
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Speaker 1: in America. In what Tennessee has Tennessee is the number

479
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Speaker 1: one defense in America in terms of points allowed per

480
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Speaker 1: drive and a wounded out of sorts. Georgia offense is

481
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Speaker 1: going to try to figure things out against this Tennessee defense.

482
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Speaker 1: I think it's a mismatch. I think there's also the

483
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Speaker 1: element of, yes, we're down, but we're not losing to

484
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Speaker 1: Tennessee down, that there might still be an order to

485
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Speaker 1: things in the sport. I just don't see how you

486
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Speaker 1: look at this Georgia offense and say they'll get right

487
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Speaker 1: because they can lean on this player. The running back

488
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: room has been up this year at Georgia. Carson Beck

489
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: has been off. Carson Beck has been seeing ghosts. Receivers

490
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Speaker 1: don't step up week to week. They just don't have

491
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Speaker 1: go two guys on that offense, and even defensively, the

492
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Speaker 1: secondary has been off. Like there's so much great things

493
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Speaker 1: to say about what Georgia is up front, and yes,

494
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to be limiting Tennessee. I have

495
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Speaker 1: this Tennessee outright twenty to seventeen on the road. It's

496
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Speaker 1: just a big deal. This game's a really big deal.

497
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Speaker 3: Because we called it out earlier with the playoff rankings,

498
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Speaker 3: Tennessee eight and one overall in seventh Georgia.

499
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Speaker 1: Georgia at seven and two.

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Speaker 3: Right now, presumably they lose another one, they would have three.

501
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Speaker 1: Losses, they'd be out.

502
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Speaker 3: I did see I think it was Heather Dinnich who

503
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 3: was on with Pat McAfee talking about, well, we don't

504
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Speaker 3: know how the committee's going to handle a three loss

505
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: SEC team or a three I don't want to go

506
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: there yet. Okay, let's see how the season shakes out first.

507
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Speaker 3: That could obviously be a controversial thing, but at present,

508
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: this feels like something of an elimination game.

509
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Speaker 1: It does feel like an elimination game. I hope, for

510
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Speaker 1: Tennessee's sake that Dylan Samson is able to hear the

511
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: ball more often than he has been that's been an issue. Yes,

512
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: this is also thing when you point out that, like

513
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Speaker 1: Georgia beat Texas thirty to fifteen on the road in

514
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Speaker 1: an overwhelming defensive performance, you're absolutely right you put it out.

515
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Speaker 1: I didn't even pointed out. I'm saying you as in,

516
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Speaker 1: if one is to point to this Georgia performance as

517
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Speaker 1: a reason to believe in them as a nine or

518
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Speaker 1: ten point favorite, you'd be correct. But you'd also be

519
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: correct to point out that that game started with Georgia

520
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Speaker 1: punting it and throwing two interceptions right against Texas, an

521
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 1: excellent Texas defense. So I'm just saying, as impressive as

522
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: that performance was, Georgia has consistently struggled against what we

523
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Speaker 1: believe to be good to excellent defenses. So I'm in

524
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Speaker 1: on Tennessee here. If you're going to say, like, who

525
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: can win in the mud more often, even with a

526
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: wounded Nico, even with an error prone offense at times,

527
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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna say, Tennessee, I think they're going to

528
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: travel well enough. And it's just a little bit of

529
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Speaker 1: faith in this moment because I didn't love their performances

530
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: as complete performances against Oklahoma and Arkansas on the road.

531
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Speaker 1: But I just don't know how you give Georgia the

532
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four version of Georgia. Yeah, the benefit of

533
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Speaker 1: the doubt to that level I have, Tennessee.

534
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Speaker 3: It's been such a head trip this year with teams

535
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Speaker 3: like Georgia, with teams like Alabama. Yeah, not leaning, not

536
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: using as a crutch what we know they have been

537
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: over the last decade, trying to take this season kind

538
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: of it a vacuum has been weird. Has been a

539
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: head trip for me. Seven point thirty nbcor Oregon Ducks

540
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 3: on the road fourteen point favorites playing a night tilt

541
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Speaker 3: in Madison, Wisconsin against the Badgers DAN the b Anders

542
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: so was consoles on bye last week kind of came

543
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: at the perfect time for them after they lost two

544
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Speaker 3: in a row to Penn State and they got drilled

545
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Speaker 3: on the road against Iowa. I think that Iowa game

546
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 3: was your lock of the week when we were up

547
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Speaker 3: in Michigan.

548
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Speaker 1: Yes, Oregon.

549
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, they head into a bye week after this game,

550
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Speaker 3: so is there potential for a getaway game of sorts?

551
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: Is there any kind of look ahead to the future

552
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: still being the number one team? You can tell me

553
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: you've got your finger on the pulse of this team

554
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: much more.

555
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Than I do.

556
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: They close out their season in week fourteen looking ahead

557
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: a little bit, big revenge game against Washington.

558
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: Big revenge game, yep, by a revenge.

559
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: Game against Washington. So they got the A one coming up.

560
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: I haven't seen an early line on that one. I'd

561
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: be willing to lay whatever, though. I think I'm kind

562
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: of looking that far ahead already. I think this Oregon

563
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: team is ready for that moment. Here is the thing

564
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: from me with this one, And I have said this

565
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: time and again this season. I'll say it again.

566
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: Now, what am I betting on?

567
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: If I'm picking Wisconsin minus the points or plus the points.

568
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: You're picking Wisconsin based on scenario for Oregon in which

569
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: they looked kind of flat last week against Maryland and

570
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: not trying a ton on offense, and you're betting on

571
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: a frenzied Madison camp Randall crowd. That's what you're betting

572
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: on to at least prolong what seems like the inevitable

573
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: in this game that Oregon would only win by you know,

574
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: ten points or something. I just ad I need more

575
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: proof than that. But I'm saying that's if you're gonna

576
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: dial it up, ty, I know you're gonna build the scaffolding.

577
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: That's what it would.

578
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: I am not building the scaffolding. I need more proof

579
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: that they can actually hang with Oregon. My theory is

580
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: that because some of these teams are so damn overpowered

581
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: because of the transfer portal, you can't just write off

582
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: these big road favorites because they're in a tough place

583
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: to play, Like camp Randall roster is stacked. They are

584
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: stacked at Oregon. Across the board, almost no exceptions. Have

585
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: had some injuries. Everyone's got injuries at this point of

586
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: this season. This is another one of these games where

587
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: I saw the point spread, I said, this is gonna

588
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: go up.

589
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: It has to go up.

590
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: It still might go up by the time Saturday rolls around,

591
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: but I locked this one in on Sunday at Oregon

592
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: minus fourteen. I don't know what the final is, but

593
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: I like them minus the numb Yeah.

594
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: I if Wisconsin had a receiver and an above average

595
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: quarterback in this moment, they become a lot scarier bredon

596
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: Lock has struggled, Brandon Lock has struggled, the offense has struggled.

597
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: There are good players in this secondary, on this Wisconsin defense,

598
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: I just don't know how you build that competitive Saturday

599
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: evening against Oregon. And it's absolutely possible Oregon comes out flat.

600
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: It's absolutely possible. It's possible Wisconsin upsets Oregon with an

601
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: above average quarterback, with an above average weapon out wide

602
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: or a tight end. We saw Holston Lovelin get loose

603
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: against the softer Oregon zone in Ann Arbor. It's just

604
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: you can't even squint and see it, and so if

605
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Wisconsin has a shot in this game, it's limiting possessions,

606
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: it's long successful drives. They can't go fourteen plays and

607
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: not get in the end zone. You're not gonna beat

608
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Oregon with field goals. And so it's Wisconsin going for broke,

609
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: getting some busted plays, probably needing three turnovers, something like that.

610
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: So take some chances, blitzing, jumping on routes, whatever. I

611
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: just I think Oregon as if they can avoid coming

612
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: out flat, avoid looking exhausted, and are able to take

613
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: the crowd out early, it's over.

614
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: There's no chance if Wisconsin wins this game. Yeah, I

615
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: will do the show on Saturday night having spray painted

616
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: my hair rid, Okay, I will do that. I'm not

617
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: going to get crazier than that because I'm still sort of.

618
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to go out and buy spray

619
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: paint just in case. I'll go get it. It's a six

620
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: thirty central kick, now, we'll get it. We'll get it.

621
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Speaker 3: There is no chance of this happening none. They might

622
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: not cover Wisconsin's not winning.

623
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what you do out of the

624
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: game plan is too difficult, I think for Wisconsin in

625
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: this moment and Oregon? Should I have what did I

626
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: write down? Thirty five seventeen Oregon covering Let's build some quads?

627
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: You think about the heart, the passion, the love, the commitment,

628
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: and the energy you're willing to put into it.

629
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Speaker 3: His name is Tom Plattsy is known as the quad Father.

630
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: Do not do the quad father workout. I am told

631
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: from those in the know, you will cripple yourself.

632
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Do you are you like in a community of weightlifters

633
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: that you are in any more? You look at me clearly.

634
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: I'm in those forums, talking shop, talking through lad exercises,

635
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: quad workouts obviously, and the like. Here's the deal, Dan,

636
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: we do this segment. We pick out four games in

637
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: each block, each window that we are focused on. There

638
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: are many others that are going to be played in

639
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: each of these early afternoon in late blocks as well,

640
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: but these are the four that I think have our

641
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: most attention.

642
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock on Fox. Is this a big noon game?

643
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: It's a big news.

644
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: It must be Utah versus Colorado. Colorado favored by eleven

645
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: and a half points. Now, Dan, I will repeat it

646
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: for the one hundredth time if Colorado wins their last

647
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: three games against Utah, against Kansas and Oklahoma State, and

648
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: then they win the Big Twelve title game, probably against BYU.

649
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: They are going to the playoff. They control their playoff destiny.

650
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: That being said, Okay, are you comfortable with any team

651
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Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve laying more than seven points against

652
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Speaker 3: any other team in the Big Twelve at this point?

653
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Speaker 1: Not especially?

654
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Speaker 3: I am going to Utah plus the points. They're good

655
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: against the pass, they like to play slow. I think

656
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: they can run. I'm not sure they can win, but

657
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 3: keeping it within that eleven and a half point line

658
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: against Colorado, sure, I will take those points happily.

659
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Speaker 1: A big newd I'm taking the points as well. It's

660
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a frenzied crowd. It will be a fun time.

661
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: Colorado is gonna win this game. But I don't know.

662
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: You look at the way Colorado has played against very

663
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: limited opponents that have strong defenses. I think Utah can

664
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Speaker 1: just muddy this up and lose this game, you know,

665
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: twenty to thirteen or something. Yeah, so seventeen thirteen, twenty

666
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: one point fifteen something like that. Utah's defense should be

667
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: able to physically handle what Colorado's throwing at them. We'll

668
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: see offensively. But no, I think they're gonna muck this

669
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: up and lose close, because that's that's sort of the

670
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: Utah Way. Is the utahway, it's the Utah Away, It's

671
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: what they are. They're just they're not going to lose

672
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: by a lot of points. This defense is still too

673
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: good to do.

674
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Speaker 3: So, by the way, because this is a show about honesty. Please,

675
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: did you happen to catch our friend Joel Klatt on

676
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: Twitter extolling the virtues of big Noons Saturday.

677
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was good, Like like he is the uh,

678
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: the unbiased authority on all things Fox decision making.

679
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this very authentic sounding line on Twitter. Quote Fox

680
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: Fox Sports, excuse me? Saw a clear opportunity to build

681
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: value into the sport by creating a third window for

682
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: premium college football. Yes, Dan Rubinstein, nothing connects with the

683
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 3: common man like talking about creating value.

684
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: Value. Yeah, premium.

685
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: We don't even talk about scores anymore on this show.

686
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: We talk about TV ratings and Fox apparently creating noon

687
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: Eastern time. Yeah, there's a little bit of al Gore

688
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: creating the Internet in this line from Joel, who I

689
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: think is brilliant. I learn a lot from listening to him,

690
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: you think he's brilliant. He's a brilliant commentator.

691
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

692
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: I think he's very good at what he does, and

693
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 3: he is passionate about it, which there are very few

694
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: things that we as fans are entitled to having passionate

695
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: people call the games be part of the product. That

696
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: is the one thing that we truly deserve. I commend

697
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: him for that. But yeah, dude, going on Twitter trying

698
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: to explain how it all works and why should the

699
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: games at noon is actually a good thing. That's something

700
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: that makes the bosses feel good. It doesn't make the

701
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: rest of us feel good. The rest of us kind

702
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: of roll our eyes here a little bit. So Yeah,

703
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: I did read his thread, to his credit, at some point,

704
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: I think he got around to the fact that, yes,

705
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: the issue is, on some level, the Big ten signed

706
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Speaker 3: the contract. That is true, they knew when they signed

707
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: the contract. He obviously cannot hammer that point home because

708
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: Fox is in bed with the Big ten, and he can't.

709
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 3: It's not even in Fox is the Big ten. Fox

710
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: is a Big ten. But we can hammer it. We

711
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: can hammer it. And the issue here is this, Kevin

712
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 3: Warren wanted a billion dollars with a b h per

713
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: year for the Big Ten. Fox is paying a ton

714
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: of money for the inventory. They have funded it so

715
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 3: much that we have to eat it. We are being

716
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: force fed the big noon game. Whether you're a Penn

717
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: State fan or a Ohio State fan, we all know

718
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: how this works. It doesn't make it suck any less.

719
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: It sucks.

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Speaker 1: This sucks.

721
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: This is one of those conference realignment things that sucks,

722
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 3: where the money has unfortunately had an outsized impact on

723
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: the product. We can try to extol the virtues all

724
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: we want about the big noon thing.

725
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: And our grading value whatever. Right sucks? Oh yeah, of course.

726
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean Ohio State has how many straight big noon

727
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: games in a row, seventy year, hundred?

728
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Speaker 3: They're all at noon.

729
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State refused to play Friday nights. I mean, look,

730
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Speaker 1: the Big ten could have said, yeah, we don't want

731
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Speaker 1: our big games at noon, and Fox then said okay,

732
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: then here's the price tag. Sure, And then the Big

733
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: ten said, well, we were just sort of just going

734
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: back and forth. We're just kidding, We're not like, fully.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even blaming Fox for it. It's not a

736
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 3: Fox thing. No, Fox is doing what they paid for. Yeah,

737
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: it's a big ten thing. It's a conference re alignment thing.

738
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Speaker 3: But don't give me this like we're going to explain

739
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: to you why this is actually good. Somebody needs to

740
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: be the voice of the fan. I'm not saying I

741
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: should be that person, but I saw this and it

742
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: was a gigantic eye roll.

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Speaker 1: I'll still say it's better than ten pm Eastern kicks

744
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: those like even if at you know, seven pm on

745
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: the West Coast games on over till ten thirty eleven,

746
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: of course, and you got to start getting to your

747
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: car and sit in traffic at home. That's a pain

748
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: in the ass. Stream the games illegally if you really

749
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: feel you know, I'm not going to tell you not

750
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: to watch, stream on me legally. Take some chances with

751
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, some viruses and fishing, but stream on me

752
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: legally if that's if that's really what you want to do,

753
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: and show your displeasure at Fox doing this. That's the

754
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: only way to combat this. Either go to the game

755
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: stream it illegally, go to a bar and watch it.

756
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, but otherwise, this is the sport we

757
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: signed up for. They don't care about you, They care

758
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: about themselves. And it's not unique to college football.

759
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: That's the world tie premium college football window.

760
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Value, We're excited to build shareholder value.

761
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: The fans care about creating value.

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Speaker 1: In Joel Klatt's defense, any day now, he's scheduled for

763
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: his annual smile and I think he's going to soften up.

764
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Speaker 3: Joel's been on the show this. We say this with love,

765
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: but we've got to be honest. Is the show about honesty?

766
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: Joel? Yeah? Sorry man.

767
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: Other games in this noon block, I pulled out Ohio

768
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: State minus twenty eight and a half against Northwestern because

769
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: that's a big number. It's at Wrigley Field, and I'm

770
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: just curious see what that looks like, see if they

771
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Speaker 3: can cover that. We've also got Texas minus thirteen and

772
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Speaker 3: a half against Arkansas. This line was higher, I think

773
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: it was sixteen and a half. It has since come down.

774
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: And then I also wanted to call out Tulane versus Navy.

775
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: Tulane is a seven point favorite. This is a very

776
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: very big game with respect to the American Conference and

777
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: how they can shake out and who goes to that

778
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: championship game in a couple of weeks. Again, Tulane favored

779
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: by seven points. Any leans on any of those games.

780
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Speaker 1: You have Ohio State big just because Northwestern doesn't do anything.

781
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Well, they're obviously much better on defense, they're

782
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Speaker 1: a disaster on offense. This year, I think Ohio State

783
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: should be able to I don't know what the weather

784
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: looks like. It might be a little bit wet in

785
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: Chicago this weekend. You can fact check me on that,

786
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: but I think otherwise, short of weather circumstance, Ohio State

787
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: should win this game. I don't know, forty two to seven,

788
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: something like that.

789
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I Arkansas was on bye last week after giving

790
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: up sixty three to Old Miss in Week ten at

791
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Speaker 3: home at home. This has been a fun team to

792
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Speaker 3: chart this season. Here is an interesting trend. Throw out

793
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Speaker 3: everything you know about the Hogs this season. Just consider

794
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: this for a second. They played the number six sp

795
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Speaker 3: plus offense in LSU back in week eight. They lost

796
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Speaker 3: by twenty four. They played the number five sp plus

797
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Speaker 3: offense Ole Miss back in week ten, two weeks later,

798
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Speaker 3: they lost by thirty two. Now they play the number

799
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Speaker 3: four spplus offense in Texas again two weeks after the last.

800
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Speaker 3: If the pattern continues, they lose by forty eight eight eight.

801
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: Even if it doesn't Texas wins. Texas covers this point spread.

802
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: I have Texas covering as well. There's a nice rhythm

803
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: to Texas, and I just worry about Arkansas mistakes against

804
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: this Texas defense costing them on the scoreboard. And as

805
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: much as I like the fun of Arkansas's offense this year,

806
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: I just think the game is going to get out

807
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: of hand eventually. So I have Texas, especially as they've

808
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: gotten healthier on offense. Jayden Blue has started to pop

809
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: once again. I'm going Texas here to win by probably

810
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: three touchdown. Texas my Walk of the week.

811
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Speaker 3: Wow of the week sort of a kiss of death

812
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: as of late, but I like Texas a lot.

813
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: Yes.

814
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: And then the two lane game, I kind of think

815
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Speaker 3: Tulane smokes Navy by like thirties. Why I think this

816
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: is going to be a runaway train in favor of Tulane.

817
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have Tulane here as well. Although the line

818
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: almost seems a little bit low, Navy's gotten a little

819
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Speaker 1: bit healthier. I just don't trust the Navy defense. I

820
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: think tu lane should be able to move the ball,

821
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: not at will, but we saw what happened against Notre

822
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Speaker 1: Dame and that has me a little bit troubled after

823
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Speaker 1: noon block, Dan, My question to you is how bad

824
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Speaker 1: you really want place?

825
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: I think this would be your potential window of opportunity.

826
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Speaker 1: Really badly? Is how badly I want Legs? Yeah? Really badly?

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Speaker 1: Is I think what Illinois is going to do to

828
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Speaker 1: Michigan State. I think they're going to beat him early

829
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Speaker 1: on that early window. That was the other game I

830
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Speaker 1: had circled. I think Illinoil'll beat him by seven to

831
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Speaker 1: ten points.

832
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Speaker 3: At least four games that I pulled out here in

833
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Speaker 3: the afternoon block, I didn't have any big games quote

834
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Speaker 3: unquote big games that we talked about at the top

835
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Speaker 3: of the episode from the three p thirty window. But

836
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Speaker 3: ABC we got LSU minus four and a half against Florida.

837
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Speaker 3: Four o'clock, we got Nebraska versus USC is an interesting one.

838
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Speaker 3: The USC favored by nine. Also got four fifteen sec

839
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Speaker 3: Network Miszoo on the road at South Carolina and at

840
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Speaker 3: four o'clock ESPN two. Just because this feels like a

841
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: weird game, Baylor minus two against West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Yes, who you got in all of those matchups? Yes? Okay,

843
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I like Nebraska to cover against USC. That is going

844
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Speaker 1: to be twenty seven to twenty three somebody, I mean

845
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: we talked about this one on Tuesday. Yeah.

846
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Speaker 3: Interested to see Jade Mayava, Yes, But ultimately this is

847
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: a game between two teams that love one score games. Yes,

848
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: so nine points. I am not laying nine points here.

849
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Speaker 1: USC is they have been better at home, nearly beat

850
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: Penn State, handled Rutgers. They have been better at home,

851
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: for sure. I just I think Nebraska's defense should be

852
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: able to do enough in this game. I just hate

853
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: the Nebraska offense. Now, this is a Dana Holgerson Nebraska offense.

854
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: Holgerson, that's right, he's back, baby.

855
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: He's called. I don't know how much you can do

856
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: if you've been there for like a Courtyard by Marriott

857
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: length stay. So I don't know how much can be

858
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: done to install and better use the talent on hand.

859
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: But maybe there's something different, maybe their new looks, maybe

860
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: they're new disguises. Maybe practice has been crazy successful this week.

861
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Twenty four to twenty USC here, I

862
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: think they win this one. We'll see on the Florida

863
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: quarterback status. I have lsu covering this spread because of

864
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: its n Aiden Warner game. I just don't see it

865
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: as dubious as LSU's defense has been. I don't think

866
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Speaker 1: Aiden Warner is going to run through it like Jalen Milroe.

867
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Speaker 3: Now, I like LSU.

868
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe, Yes, Milrow, Yes Milrow, I like LSU.

869
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: It obviously did not help that Florida had to pay

870
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Speaker 3: play Aiden Warder.

871
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Last week.

872
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: Aid Ward doesn't play pass defense though, and no, it

873
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: was my main takeaway that it seemed far too easy

874
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 3: for Quinnewers to throw into this Florida defense again, four

875
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: first half touchdown passes. They were very easy for him,

876
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: So say what you want about LSU and their defense.

877
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: Garrett nus Meyer's an NFL caliber quarterback and he's got

878
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: some NFL caliber wide receivers. I've got this one in

879
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: like thirty eight, twenty four. I think they're gonna throw

880
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: over Florida.

881
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's a nice thing to

882
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: say about somebody, because there's a lot of stinkers in

883
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. Apparently right now there are there are, so

884
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: who knows. Yeah, I'm gonna take LSU give those points.

885
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: I love South Carolina against Miszoo just because Drew Pine

886
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: is the pal's possibility. Drew Pine and Williams Brice against

887
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: this defensive front and things get out of hands.

888
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: I'm terrified for Drew Pine.

889
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, yeah, we'll see. It could be a

890
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: Brady Cook game. I love Baylor on the road. I

891
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: love Baylor on the road.

892
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: Is it because West Virginia has not been good at home?

893
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: Is it because West Virginia is in a state of flux?

894
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: What is because Baylor can score? What is?

895
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Yes? All of those things. West Virginia as nice. The

896
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: win was against Cincinnati. It's Cincinnati. They're better on the road.

897
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: Good win on the road against Arizona. Shelled against Kansas State,

898
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: who can move the ball, lose by double digits to

899
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: Iowa State, although it was a nice start at least

900
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: for that at home, the best thing you can say

901
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: about them is they snuck by Kansas when they were

902
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: not good. I just think West Virginia is struggling. Obviously,

903
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: they've made coaching change, a coaching change on defense. I

904
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: just I'm not there with West Virginia here. So I

905
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: love Baylor. I think coming off of a bye yes.

906
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: No, I'm on Baylor minus the two. I'm on South

907
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: Carolina minus the twelve now, and I like these games

908
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: a little too much.

909
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: Okay. South Carolina is one.

910
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: Of the few home teams I like this week, which

911
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: tells me I should probably lock that bet in before

912
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: I have a second thought. I've gotten way too far

913
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: down the path of picking these road teams minus the number,

914
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: and though I have a lot of them this week,

915
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: I do feel good about that Baylor one as well.

916
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: I'd you like two te me elsewhere in that window

917
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Speaker 1: on the CW. I love Cal against Syracuse. Syracuse coming

918
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: off of a lost to Boston College on the road,

919
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: second straight road game, and this is one that has

920
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: them flying from New York to California. Cal has been

921
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: playing nicely on offense. Beat Wake on the road Cal

922
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: So I think blew out Oregon stayed a couple of

923
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: weeks ago, so perhaps in a rhythm. Love SMU against

924
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: Boston College, who has not been the same team away

925
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: from Boston. So I think SMU coming off of a bye,

926
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be in a good position

927
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: here to win that game. Big Penn State showed me

928
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: the throttle and now they have Purdue on the road

929
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: in not a look ahead spot. I think Penn State

930
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: might have it. Minnesota the week after tough team, but

931
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: not a team that you are, you know, circling on

932
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: the calendar as like this is the showdown of all showdowns.

933
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: So not a look ahead spot love Notre Dame against Virginia.

934
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is just a mediocre program, landlord. They are

935
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: just in a position to own and harass and do

936
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: everything they can to make the lives of programs like

937
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: Virginia or Stanford or any of those teams miserable. So

938
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: I like Notre Dame to win big there Love Louisville

939
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: against Stanford. Just can't find a reason for Stanford. Yeah, well,

940
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: you got some takes on this window. I do, so

941
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be taking your window of opportunity here.

942
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna bet all these games. I love this window

943
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 1: so much, and I like Maryland against Rutgers at home.

944
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: All right, Josdy hasn't been the same team away.

945
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna see how Dan's afternoon window fares.

946
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Please, We do our recap episode on Saturday at

947
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: midnight out on the YouTube channel. Feeling dangorous standrus very good.

948
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: By the way, give a call at the Reaver bline

949
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: at eight five to five. Ruble three will play your

950
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: voice messages all throughout, not all throughout, but at the

951
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: end of that recap episode that we do on Saturday night.

952
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: Let's let's close things out here if we can, and

953
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: to play your favorite well, hold on, I want to

954
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: point out something I'll discover too. I message you this

955
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Oregon State is a favorite on the road against Air

956
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: Force Altitude. I have no idea who's gonna win this game.

957
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is on Big CBS. I'm sure

958
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: there's a reason for it. This game features maybe the

959
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: two worst pass rushing defenses you know, America. Nobody is

960
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: going to stay cleaner than anybody who attempts to pass

961
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: in this game. What did I say, I'll look at

962
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: it was like, it's a bunch of chemistry tutors in

963
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: three techniques. It's gonna be great. So maybe I'll flip

964
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: over to this if the other games are boring. So yeah,

965
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: Oregon State air Force in this window as well on

966
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: Big CBS, at least according to the document you made.

967
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna need like eight quad boxes here to make

968
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: sure that you're up to date on this one. Let's

969
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 3: go to the final window. I'll play your favorite sound.

970
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: You have to achieve failure, you have to take it

971
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: that far. Nobody wants to go that far. It's too scary.

972
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: Those you know something, I got news for you. That's

973
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: where winning is. So winning is is not wrong. Can

974
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: I tell you I fully agree with where Tom is

975
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: in terms of a headspace. Yeah, nobody wants to go

976
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: where you need to go to win to be excellent, right,

977
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: except for the truly elite. And say what you will

978
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: about the quad Father. Tom gets it.

979
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: Tom does get it. Dan.

980
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: We've also been getting it far and wide from BYU fans,

981
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: have we not?

982
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I guess so, such a smooth segue.

983
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 3: You almost didn't catch it. But ten to fifteen ESPN

984
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: we got Kansas, we got BYU at home, a three

985
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: point favorite. Apparently the consensus is that I am a

986
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 3: BYU hater.

987
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: I mean they I think they dislike me more. But yes,

988
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: we can argue about that.

989
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 3: They usually dislike you more. But I was the one

990
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 3: who said it was a soft call, the holding, the

991
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: defensive holding call on fourth down against Utah, And I

992
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: got a lot.

993
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: Of these like ty, you didn't see this, Terry McCauley,

994
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 4: wade in, You did not see the zapruder film shot

995
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: by some guy's brother that we slowed down.

996
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Ten times annulated the coordinates.

997
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: You didn't see it, ty, I did see it. What

998
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: do you say now? What I say is this, he

999
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 3: grabbed him? Yes, he grabbed him. We know he grabbed him.

1000
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh. I still can't.

1001
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: Believe they made that call in that situation.

1002
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: Same but the other thing that we did say, BYU.

1003
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: Capitalized on it. It doesn't account for the next four

1004
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: or five plays where they moved down the field where

1005
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 3: they kicked the go ahead field goal.

1006
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: That is impressive.

1007
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: You don't need to defend yourself. I'm not defending myself.

1008
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: You were one hundred percent correct. I am offering more

1009
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: context here. Okay.

1010
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: I remain a very big, maybe the biggest Jake Reetzlaff

1011
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 3: fan this side of the Mississippi.

1012
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: You're the only person that side of the Mississippi who

1013
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: knows who he is. Continue.

1014
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: I like Jake Retzlaff a lot, and I would say

1015
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: there's a very big difference to by the way, the

1016
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: nice BYU fans who have chosen to be critical of

1017
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: this and very nice as compared to some other fan bases,

1018
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: which I appreciate.

1019
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: There is a.

1020
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: Difference between being a hater and being a non believer. Okay,

1021
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 3: you know this to be true. I do not understand

1022
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: BYU this year. It's like the optical illusion with the

1023
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: rubber pencil, you know when you kind of like wiggle

1024
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: it up and down and it looks like it's bending,

1025
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: and you don't know how that's BYU this year. Because

1026
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: I watch the games, I do the same analysis on

1027
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: BYU as I do any other team, and they confuse

1028
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 3: the hell out of me. I don't think they can

1029
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: keep this up, but there is a certain charm with

1030
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: how they are doing it, how they keep winning. The

1031
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: last time I felt this way about a team was TCU,

1032
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 3: and they made the National Championship game. So that's true,

1033
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: commit but that is me not being a believer. If

1034
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: I were a hater, I'd look at the playoff thing,

1035
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: the bracket, and I'd say, well, if they play Alabama,

1036
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: I hope Alabama throttles them. I can't wait for BYU

1037
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: to play a team, hopefully other than my own, give

1038
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: them a game. I'd love nothing more than for maximum chaos.

1039
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: So I'm not rooting against them. I just don't understand them,

1040
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: and I don't think they can continue this up. So

1041
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at with BYU. Also, I'm taking Kansas

1042
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: out right this week BYU okay.

1043
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: Okay, not rooting against BYU.

1044
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: I just again that is that is the whole thesis

1045
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: for me with the Cougars this year. I do not

1046
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: understand how they can continue to do this. I think

1047
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: it's a lot on Jake Rhetz left. I think it's

1048
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: a lot of these big plays that they are generating,

1049
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: which is to their credit. I just don't think they

1050
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: can continue to do to.

1051
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: Go make myself some breakfast while you finish your BA.

1052
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: I have a lot to say about Byu. Okay, BYU.

1053
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: Coming off the huge emotional rivalry win, Kansas may be

1054
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 3: secretly decent at this point, could they not?

1055
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Could BYU not just be building something brick by brick,

1056
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh it's back time, brick by brick?

1057
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: What are they building?

1058
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: A special season? Ty it is? It's already a special season.

1059
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: It's already a special season. Sure, b Yu, mindus anything?

1060
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: Block of the week? Wow, look of the week. You

1061
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: could not give me enough points in this one. Kansas

1062
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Kansas get out of town line only three? Why's the

1063
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: line three? Because of the haters and doubters like you, Ty,

1064
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: I've been a big BYU believer from day one. It

1065
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: was a great call at the end of that game

1066
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: against Utah. Honestly, they might take that call and put

1067
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: it on a video screen and take it on a

1068
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: helicopter to Canton, Ohio and put it in the Football

1069
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. It was such a good call. B

1070
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: YU minus anything. You are going to see Jake Rhetz

1071
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: laugh enter the Heisman race in earnest after this game.

1072
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: They're nice people, They've been so nice about this.

1073
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: I just it's time to believe. Ty. Don't do this.

1074
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: Don't you're cursing them, is what. I went for a walk.

1075
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 1: I went for a walk and I said to myself, God,

1076
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: I've sometimes you just have to accept special and I'm

1077
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: accepting special ty. So BYU minus anything. Lock of the

1078
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: Week Limb from Limb. Is that your favorite thing? Limb

1079
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: from Limb BYU? Again, that's a Dan thing. But I

1080
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed that brick by brick Block of the Week BYU.

1081
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: If if you had to pin me down on a

1082
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: score thirty five thirteen, jeez man, Yeah, I'm just telling you.

1083
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say if I'm wrong I'm gonna

1084
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: eat my shoe or anything like that. I'm just going

1085
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: to come back on this show Saturday night and say, Ty,

1086
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: you had a chance to be on the right side

1087
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: of history and you ignored it. This is your opportunity. Tie.

1088
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: Segment's not over if you want to change your mind. No, no,

1089
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: I'm not changing my special season. Kansas wins thirty one,

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00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: twenty six, thirty five, thirteen.

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00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: Koog's all right, two other games here that I pulled

1092
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: out and then you can give me. I don't know,

1093
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: maybe you have like seventeen more that you want to

1094
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: give a pick for, because you seem very opinionated on this.

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00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: What was the name of the muscle spinala? Saturday, Colin, watch.

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Speaker 3: Your back right eight o'clock on Fox Cincinnati against Isowa State.

1097
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 3: I've got Iowa State Iowa State minus nine. I think

1098
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 3: I've got Iowa State minus nine.

1099
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: I have Iowa State as well. I just have not

1100
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: been a fan of what Cincinnati has been able to do,

1101
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: especially on the road. This is it's a get right

1102
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: opportunity for Iowa State, who has been uncharacteristically weird on defense.

1103
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: And that's the nicest word I come up with. Ineffective

1104
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: would be another word to describe what Iowa State has

1105
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: been lately on defense. How about San Jose State plus

1106
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: the points? I love the Spartans. Why points?

1107
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: Why so it is seven pm CBS Sports Network. Boise

1108
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 3: State and Ashton gent T minus thirteen and a half

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00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: points on the road against San Jose State and Kenia

1110
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: Modololo Dan is having decent season? Why san Jose State?

1111
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: Okay? So they profile nicely to match up with Boise

1112
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: State reasonably well. Boise State has been very good rushing

1113
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: the passer. San Jose State has protected the passer quite

1114
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: well this year. San Jose State has the best big

1115
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: play or even just the best receiver period in the

1116
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: Mountain West and Nick Nash. Boise State has struggled in

1117
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: giving up big plays through the air big plays in general.

1118
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: San Jose State has been decent against the run. If

1119
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: they had been catastrophic or not so good against run,

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Sanjoes States been pretty good against run. I have not

1121
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: watched a lot of San Jose State, obviously, but in

1122
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: terms of this situation, I'm gonna watch Saturday night as

1123
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: we're recording the show. I guess in terms of this

1124
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: situational play I know the defense is an amazing for

1125
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: the Spartans, but Boise State has come back down to

1126
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: earth a little bit. It's on the road they couldn't

1127
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: separate from I think a scrapping Nevada team last week.

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00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: I just think Boise State should win this game. But

1129
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: that's too many points for me. San Jose State a

1130
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: de facto super Bowl moment. I'm going San Jose State

1131
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: to cover this one and lose by seven to ten.

1132
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: The only other game that I'm going to call out here,

1133
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: and there are a few, are the ones that I

1134
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: think are interesting. South Alabama at Louisiana. Louisiana favored by nine,

1135
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: so then miss Texas State Texas State favor by twenty

1136
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: seven points. Curious see if they can cover that. The

1137
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: big one, though, is this Texas A and M minus

1138
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: forty and a half forty and a half points at

1139
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: home against New Mexico State.

1140
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: Dan.

1141
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: This is not a Diego Pavia New Mexico State, mind you, no,

1142
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: it is not. But forty and a half is still

1143
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: a big old number. It's the biggest number I've seen

1144
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: in a while since we've been doing this year's versions

1145
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: of these shows. I guess Texas A, and M. I

1146
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: don't that's a lot of points, a lot of puns.

1147
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch it, but that's a lot of points

1148
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: I should mention it. It's a seven pm Eastern Star

1149
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: Boise State, San Jose State, so maybe I won't be

1150
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: able to watch during the show. It'll be concluding, maybe

1151
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,479
Speaker 1: right before we begin our stream Saturday night. I don't

1152
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: have any thoughts on New Mexico State, Texas A, and M.

1153
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: I know Mercer Alabama this week as well. There's some

1154
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: of those types of games in the sec DAN. If

1155
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: you are out there amongst the people.

1156
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: Looking for live college football games and podcasts in pristine

1157
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 3: audio form, this is your reminder download the Varsity Network app.

1158
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: It is free to download in the Apple App Store.

1159
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: It's out on Google Play as well. Search for your school.

1160
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: You will get the content you desire. You can also

1161
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: listen to us on the Varsity Network app as well

1162
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: as our friend Stevie speed Run, who does the college

1163
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: football equivalent of the Red Zone thing. The College Football

1164
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: Blitz goes every Saturday from twelve noon to twelve midnight,

1165
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: keeping you up to date with all things going on

1166
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: in and around the world of college football. It is

1167
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: a public service, not just the show. We would encourage

1168
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: everybody to check that out for free.

1169
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: Nice okay, I will. It's the best.

1170
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: That is all we have. Again, what is the name

1171
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: of that muscle? How do you spell this?

1172
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: I think it's I'm going to fact check myself. It's spinalis.

1173
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: I think it's spi nis, spi n alis. Excuse me,

1174
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: spinalis spinalis portion of the director spin a a bundle

1175
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: of muscles and tendons located nearest to the spine. It

1176
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: is divided into into three parts spanalis dorsey, spanalis cervicus

1177
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: and spinalis capitis deep muscles on the back.

1178
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: Spinalis Saturday, watch your back. It is week twelve here

1179
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: in Layman's terms, Dan, yes, make sure you go out

1180
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: to play around the Board dot com. Get in on

1181
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: the Pickham game. If that's not live yet, it will

1182
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: be live very very shortly. You can of course access

1183
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: that find more details player on the board dot com,

1184
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: or just go to Forballers dot com and sign up

1185
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: to play. We would encourage you again to give us

1186
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: phone call it eight five to five verbal three as

1187
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: you were watching all of the games on this spinalis Saturday, when,

1188
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: of course you're watching your back, but let us know

1189
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: your thoughts as you were watching.

1190
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: We would play.

1191
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: Appreciate your contributions, and we would encourage you all, if

1192
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: you are up for it, to join into the live

1193
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: stream livestream midnight Eastern time on Saturday night slashday morning

1194
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: out on our YouTube channel.

1195
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: It's all I got, No, it's not, because it's time

1196
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: to drop that big stanky, heaving drum and five.

1197
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: Maybe twelve noon Colgate at two and eight, squaring off

1198
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: against the Lehigh Mountain Hawks. Lehigh a resounding six and three,

1199
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: Dan ru esteem.

1200
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: Are you going? Are you making pizzas for the people

1201
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: the park? Thought about it? Thought about it?

1202
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: No, No, We're going Lee High, Go only high from Afar.

1203
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: Lee High from Afar from me as well.

1204
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 3: Buck now five and five on the road against the

1205
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: Holy Cross Crossaders, who are four and six.

1206
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: Buck now a little bit too high and mighty in

1207
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 1: this moment in November. This is Crosssaders season. TI give

1208
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: me the Crossaders at home. I'm going buck down, I

1209
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: gotta go.

1210
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: Nelly's Nah twelve already, stone Hill, stone Hill, stone Hill's.

1211
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: One in eight.

1212
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: They're on the road against the Lafayette Gettys who are

1213
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: five and five.

1214
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: Any reason to go stone Hill here? Dan, I'm looking

1215
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: up stone Hill right now. They're the Skyhawks. Okay, they

1216
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: are from Easton, Massachusetts. So it's an alt Easton against

1217
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: the Easton, right, I'm going with the Easton Lafayette five

1218
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 1: and five about to be six and five.

1219
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: Also kind of a precursor to the game against the

1220
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: Mountain Hawks squaring off against the Skyhawks.

1221
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: Also true, getting Hawk ready.

1222
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 3: Sort of like a bizarro Lehigh situation here. And finally,

1223
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: one pm, Georgetown away from Multi Sport Field. The Hoys

1224
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: are five and four squaring off against Fordham. Fordham is

1225
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: one and nine?

1226
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: Is that right? That tough? Usually they're nine and one.

1227
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: They're one and nine this year in the Hammies. That's tough.

1228
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm going Georgetown here. I think there is energy and

1229
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: electricity around hoy of football in a way that we

1230
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: haven't seen in quite some time.

1231
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: Give me Georgetown on the road.

1232
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1233
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: Now we're done. Finally, we are done with this. Now Saturday,

1234
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 3: Spinal Saturday. Watch your back, one and all wherever it

1235
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: is you are listening to this podcast. Thank you so

1236
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: much for downloading, for listening for supporting what.

1237
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: Dan and I Do.

1238
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: One final call to going out to play rundboard dot com.

1239
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: Get more details on our Pickham game. One final call

1240
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: to check out for Ballers dot com, where you can

1241
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Speaker 3: go and support what Dan and I Do. Get add

1242
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1243
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1244
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Speaker 1: Server, Yes, so on and so forth, and get access

1245
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: to a Dutch crumble apple pie by winning run the

1246
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: board this week, play rundboard dot com.

1247
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan, for

1248
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: myself over here, my name is Ty. Thank you again

1249
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: for all of your support. Enjoy your week twelve. We

1250
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,959
Speaker 3: will talk to y'all Sunday morning.

1251
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: Stay sol please