WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What To Do About The Run Game? 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.560 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:16.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.160 for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:24.520 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.880 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:36.200 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.680 It is Wednesday, December fifteenth, twenty twenty one, season seventeen, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.680 episode number seventy nine. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.560 The Break. We are live from the s WBC Morgan 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.440 Studios at the Star. I got David Amber with me. 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.600 Nick is out today, but we have filled the spot 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:57.520 with the Man the Legend. Hey, Jiah, stand back, Colma. Thanks. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.200 We give you an opportunity to be a real show. Wow. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:08.600 This bizarre rivalry, a whole bunch of people that work together. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:10.840 we love having you on the show. I said, I 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:11.920 know you and I got a chance to do a 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.320 show back during the time we mix the shows up 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.200 during the bye week. But good to have you back 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.920 with us. We have a lot of stuff we're gonna 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.160 talk about today. We're not gonna be joined by Bucky 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.480 Brooks today. He's gonna join tomorrow and give us his 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.720 takes on Cowboys versus Giants. We figure because the Giants 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.399 are so bad, we can figure we put that all 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:30.960 into one day. We don't need two shows for that. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.800 Say that we have learned a very hard less no no, no, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.480 back up, back up. I did not say that because 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.160 they're bad doesn't mean that Cowboys can't get beat. What 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.160 I said was they're bad, and so I think it's 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.640 pretty clear they're bad. Now we'll see what happens on 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.679 Sunday what that means to the Cowboys. But they're not 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.920 a good team. Um. Anyway, we're gonna get to Bucky tomorrow, 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.760 but today we're gonna talk a little bit about Giants 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.240 offense versus Cowboys defense. We'll talk a little bit about 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.840 some other topics. We didn't get a chance to get 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.160 to what Jerry had to say about Dak Prescott yesterday. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.120 We'll talk about that a little bit today as well. Nick. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:06.080 I'm sorry not Nick day like that real nofense. Nick 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.560 was about say you might have not not just kind 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.400 of put him out there. I'm my own man, Okay, 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.560 you are your own man, Dave, and you're unique man. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.160 Give me a seventy nine real quick. I think it's 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:21.800 pretty obvious Harvey Martin, and I love Harvey Martin for 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.000 it's a cool thing about this job. I'm I just 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.600 turned thirty three yesterday, your birthday. Thanks, you have a 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.800 good birthday. I had a great birthday. Awesome. Um. I 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.520 didn't know anything about Harvey Martin when I started working here. Sorry, Like, 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.440 I know that sounds blasphemous here, but I didn't. Yeah. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.840 He but you work here and you learned the history 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.360 of the team and you're like, oh my god, this 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.040 guy was a badass. I was embarrassed when I finally 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:45.919 figured out who he was and what he'd done that 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.080 I'd never heard of the the same. But growing up in Houston, 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.760 I'd never really heard. I mean, there's so many legends 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.840 around this team, you know. I mean, I know, I 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.959 knew Stabok, I knew Pearson, I knew all the nineties guys. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.680 But I just you can't know everybody unless you're like 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.280 a die hard fan of this team. Super Bowl MVP 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.360 one hundred and fourteen career sacks. He's I think he's 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.920 thirty two in career sacks. I don't know if they 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.079 even tracked him for most I don't think they did. Yeah, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.560 Defensive Player of the Year four time for like he 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.880 was a legit player at the very least. He's got 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.240 a ring of honor. What's the word I'm looking for here, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.040 he's got a case for it. Yeah, and he probably 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.480 has a case to be in the Hall of Fame 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.560 as well. And people don't really talk about him. So 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.320 shouts out to Harvey Martin seventy nine, no doubt about it. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.200 All right, let's jump in. We're going to a first. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:32.960 I wanted to get a cut catch up on a 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.080 few things. Coach McCarthy just finished talking to the media. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.000 He did say that there were going to be some 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.839 practice modifications today, Dave, what was he talking about there? 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.240 I think, and this is the type of thing that 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.280 happens anyway you get late in the year, like there's 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.600 fewer padded practices. Everybody's beat to hell, and I just 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.760 think they're kind of dialing it back, like this isn't 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.400 gonna be Some coaches not so much these days because 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.560 it's in the CBA, But like I was listening to 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.360 somebody talk about this other the other day, Like some 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.680 coaches are like, no, we're in pads, no matter what. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.520 That's what we're gonna do. But the more and more 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.240 you get into this and learn about player health and 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.160 try and keep people healthy, like you dial some of 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.080 that stuff back. So I think this will be more 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.600 than a walkthrough, but not your typical I mean we're 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.000 not We're not getting after it in pads and hitting 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.520 each other here. So I just think they're trying to 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.520 preserve the roster a little bit. I see, how many 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.360 more years could you have played in league if they 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.280 let you take the pads off and have these kind 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.960 of practices. This schedule is just different. I'm still I'm 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.560 still back locked into my old school methods. You know, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.440 we're out there, you know, three days a week with 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.279 pads on, and yeah, these guys now they're just running 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.280 around with with sweatpants on half the time. But is better? 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:45.120 Is it better on your body? Yes? On your body? Yes? 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.560 I mean they I can't I'm not in the locker rooms. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.400 I don't know how it's really affecting these guys. I 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.240 just know that we we were physical. It was a 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.800 lot more physical back then, and um, it's a lot 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.800 more tiki tech now. So I think it kind of 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.520 offsets each other. Right, the physicality was dependent on you 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.320 being to go throughout the week, and that carried over 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.280 into the game. Now these guys aren't allowed to be 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.559 as physical in the games, and it's kind of showing 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.760 up on the practice field too. Yeah, I can't remember 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.880 when you came in the league. Were we still doing 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.120 two of the days, because I remember two a days 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.120 and it was a different kind of training camp because 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.880 it did it consumed your entire day because even from 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.480 our standpoint, I mean, you got two practices that you're 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.880 covering in a single day. It was a lot more 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.680 different than obviously we weren't on the field having to 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.760 run around twice a day. But I assume that beat 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.880 in season. No, I'm saying during training two a day 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.719 practices during training camp for that entire four or five 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.960 weeks that we've been a training camp, and there weren't 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.920 these built in day off every four days like it 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.919 is now. Like it was a very very different world. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.520 But they all, I mean, they did the correct me 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.800 if I'm wrong, Like, not that long ago, it would 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.080 be normal in December to suit up in full pads 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.640 and yeah, beat the hell absolutely, especially depending on the 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.160 organization that you played for you were in New England, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.520 was that the most intense that you ever experienced? You 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.480 were in pads every day, you were in pads. Yeah, absolutely, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.000 I mean all way up until you know to Friday practice, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.279 which is a jog through. Even then we would probably 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.320 still have shows on, you know. So it's just it's 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.640 just how it's just the culture of the team. You know, 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.880 it's just a culture team and it's evolved, right These 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.240 coaches are evolved and they're they're changing. I'm sure you know, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.160 coach McCarthy back in the day probably had his guys 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.120 in pads all the way up into it. But the CBA, 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:18.960 you know, a lots for certain certain things that have 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.560 to change, and this is just one of them. And 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.279 the game's changed. Yeah, And it sounds like they've gotten 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.600 smarter with the use of analytics and the tracking devices 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.440 they used to they kind of know how much stress 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.480 each players putting on their body and they know when 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.480 it's time to dial them back. I'm not going to 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.160 go as far as to say it's the only thing 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.880 he cares about, but Mike McCarthy, like the analytics of 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.760 his player usage is very important to him, and like 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.919 he talks about it all the time, Like he's always 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.960 talking about like the GPS numbers on like how much 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.200 a guy ran a practice, how fast he was running, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.760 how much work he was putting on himself. I think 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.840 he studies that stuff religiously. And you hear people talk 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.200 about the Stay program, which is what they call his 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.640 the weekly method, where like they don't practice Friday, they 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.520 do mental health stuff, and it's all more of a 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.400 mental aspect of it. Like he's big on that stuff 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.440 and he's talked about it before, like he ran some 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.920 Green Bay teams into the ground, and this is like 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:15.440 the natural learning curve of that. Another question was asked 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.560 him with regard to the health of the team right now. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.120 There's only really one player, Tyren Smith, that's not practicing 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.440 at this point, which is remarkable for a team in December, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.040 and given the week that we were having around the 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.200 league right now, no COVID updates either. The only one 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.080 they got right now, Cedric He's the only one that's 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.000 on the COVID list. And we're gonna talk a little 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.320 bit about COVID a little later. I have some questions 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.640 for you guys on that. But that all being said, 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.440 I do think there's still kind of dis lingering what's 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.640 up with Zeke Kyle is he doing? And he was 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.280 asked that question, what if McCarthy say on Zeke and 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.440 kind of what do we feel about where Zeke is 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.880 at this point? I think Zeke is probably gonna be 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.920 where he is. I don't. I mean, we talked a 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.040 lot about let's get to this break after the Saints game, 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.840 and he did, and he said he felt better. He 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.600 looked better in Washington. Would y'all agree with that? He 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:10.040 looked better? He didn't look we're qualifying this. He looked better, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.400 he looked a little more sprightly, he had a little 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.880 extra burst. But he's I think he's gonna be banged 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.000 up until this season is over. If I had to guess, 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.000 maybe on the outside chance they can earn a bye 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.040 week that could help out. But I think, and that's 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.080 kind of what Mike said, is Zeke's fine. I mean, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.520 he's not magically one hundred percent and he probably won't be, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.720 but he's he's going to continue on this path that 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.559 he's been on. I think, Yeah, I'm disappointing. I mentioned 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.360 this earlier on Talking Cowboys. I'm really disappointed that they 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.040 missed the opportunity to give him seventeen days off. They 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.400 had an opportunity to give Zeke seventeen days off a 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.120 couple weeks ago, and they chose not to, right, and 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:48.959 they chose not to and then they brought him into 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.960 game and use him for pass protection primarily. So now 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.560 you you're faced with a situation where you're you need 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.319 Zeke right, you need the running game because the running game, 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.120 we're seeing the effect it has on Deck okay, or 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.679 the lack there of the running game. We need Zeke 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.439 when we need a most he's not anywhere near healthy. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.400 What percentage would you say Zeke is right now? Sixty 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.880 That's what I said. Yeah, I think Zeke sixty percent. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.160 And I truly believe that the ponent that we're facing 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.679 this week, there's an opportunity based upon what we saw 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.400 last week with Clemens. He came out and he was 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.640 he was shifty, he was explosive, he was he had 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.520 all the things that you all the makeups of a 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.520 of a running back that can run in his backfield. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.200 I think there's an opportunity to rest Zeke and Poler 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.080 this week and get them healthier going into this last 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.920 stretch and then if you're somehow able to secure the 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.960 division right and take care of of the Giants and 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.079 Philly loses, hopefully, then you have another week at the 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.840 end of the season that you can rest your guys. Right. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.920 This isn't about I shouldn't use the word rest, it's 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.040 I should use the term. You know, she's getting guys healthy. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.640 Zeke is not going to be a huge it's not 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.920 going to be a contributor to this offense aside from 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.400 his ability to block, if you don't get him some 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.840 time off. And I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.560 but I've been saying on our show this whole time, 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.240 like I just don't think you can afford to and 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.480 it sounds completely unsexy, but like that ability to block 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.679 is important, Liken. Like, for example, even this bad Giants team, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.320 Azizo Glari, they got this rookie edge rusher who's got 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.079 eight sacks. He might be the talk of the division 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.960 if Michael wasn't doing what he's doing. You know, send 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.439 Corey Clements and Edo Smith up there to keep Dak 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.400 on his feet. I don't know, man, I don't know 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.640 about that. I hear you know, and I understand the fear. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.720 I understand the fear, but I think that if Kellen 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.719 Moore is what we say that he is, he can 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.960 scheme around that. I think it's more important for Zeke 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.600 to get his rest going into the end of this 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.840 year than it is for us to sit back there 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.040 and utilize him. Fifteen plays out the game for sitting 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.280 back in pass blocking. If Kelly Moore can't figure out 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.560 how to block that up without Zeke back there, then 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.360 we have some bigger issue out Tyrn too, without Tyranto. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.720 I mean, but this is why we These guys are professionals. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.200 These guys have a job to do, and the giants 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.480 aren't scary, right. I feel like we're evenly mad against 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.880 him with our office a line right now. That sounds bad, right, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.440 but that's just the way it is. And the replacement 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:06.920 staff we had to put and put in place, but 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.199 we need Zeke healthy. And we see even with Zeke, 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.000 would you say that he contributed to last the last 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:16.480 two games? Honestly he contributed on Sunday, I don't think 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.360 it was. I don't think it was to the level where, 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.560 I mean where without him you would not have been 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.800 able to That's and that's what I mean. Yeah, I 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.000 would take one hundred percent healthy Clemens, and I would 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.200 take a sixty percent Zeke if I know that I 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.640 can get Zeke to be a seventy five percent next week. Yeah, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.720 And that's what I'm looking at, because right now Zeke 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.679 was running the ball, he looked better. To your point, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.560 he looked better until what he took a shot on 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.120 his nation and where where do you go? Ben? And 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.280 that's my problem, that's my problem with all of it 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.600 is it seems like over the last two or three 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.199 games they've limited his the amount that they're using him. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.520 But it's always in every one of those games, there's 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.720 a moment where he takes a hit, and so to me, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.200 it kind of restarts the clock on him getting healthier. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.760 And so if you're gonna do that, just sit it 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.240 out and just don't worry about that and let those 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.599 other guys have to step up and provide would you 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.640 need for a week or two to give him that 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.760 extra ress so that hopefully he's more healthy. Counterpoint, Yeah, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.719 if you handle your business against two teams that you're 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.120 better than, you could have two weeks where he like 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.920 where they're not meaningless, but like you've done what you 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.520 need to do, even the Arizona game and especially the 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:24.000 Philly game probably, and so, like I keep saying, gut 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.920 through it. You should win against New York, you should 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.160 win against Washington, and then maybe you can make those 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.720 types of decisions once the playoffs are one hundred percent secured. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.679 I don't. I mean, I feel like we tend to 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:41.520 overcomplicate things sometimes, and I know it would change the 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:46.600 preparation during this week, and he can change and increase 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.880 potentially an injury depending on how much they use him. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.320 But let's say limited practices goes in, you still have 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.320 him activated, and then depending on how the game is going, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.679 I mean, you decide whether to use him or not. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.680 I mean, it's against the Giants, we said that. I 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:08.120 think that the Cowboys, and they've shown otherwise sometimes, but 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.000 I think they should be very capable of handling their 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:16.520 business without seek on the offense this week. But if 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.319 needed in a case of emergency, can't you just have 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.800 him there on the sideline ready to go. And I 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.400 know it doesn't necessarily work that way because you healthwise, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.280 you know, there's a certain protocol that you have to 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.600 go through it with your body to be ready to 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.319 step into the field. But how how difficult is that really, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.400 you know, just having him as a backup there. I 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.240 will say this, and as you mentioned earlier, give him 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.880 in antp some time. But I personally think if you 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.720 can get Polot back this week, that becomes impetus for 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.240 me to say, sit Zeke, don't even suit him up, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.320 because I look at it and say, I've got I've 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.319 got Tony Pollot, who I think is running as well 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.480 at least as well as ze right now. And so 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.439 I got him, and I got these other supplemental backs 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.040 that I can use with him, and to me, that 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.679 should be enough for the running game for for a game, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.320 for a week or two, um. And so if if 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.520 Poller is ready to come back, I think that's the 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.840 impetus for me. I don't love the idea of going 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.320 into a game without either one of them, even against 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.920 the Giants, just because I do think you want to 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.960 be able to run a little bit better than what 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:25.840 they're going to get out of those guys. But I 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.800 do think that, you know, if you got Pollard back, 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.520 that becomes my remason to say do it. That makes sense. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.960 But the reality is Poler's injury that he has right now, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.600 that's not going away, right, That's not it's not going away. 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.640 That plan or fashiout is if anybody who knows and 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.840 it just where he probably isn't isn't going away either. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.360 So that's what I'm saying. But but by going by, 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.360 continuing to wear on it, it gets worse. Yeah, right, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.560 So by giving these guys time off, you're allowing them 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.240 to you know, it's like a video game, right, you 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:52.400 know what I'm saying. It's like the fishing line. You 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:53.600 throw it out there and you know, you get the 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.440 tension on it and then it eventually he's gonna it's 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.200 gonna pop. Right, But if you ease up off it, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.920 guess what you restore you you know, you're your stre 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.040 These guys need this break and this built in it's 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.520 built in. TP is not healthy. And if you wearing 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.800 out and then you have something that can get substantially worse. Zeke, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.160 we see, Zeke is a shadow of himself. And there's 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.360 no disrespect to Zeke. He's given it everything that he has. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.160 You can there's a lot of guys playing with a 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.640 lot of injuries right now around this NFL Dallas Cowboys 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.520 are not, and Zeke is gonna play through this thing 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.760 if they allow him to sit him down, don't take 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.120 the decision out of his hand. Sit down. We need you. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.600 If there's anybody in the Dallas Cowboy Nation wants to 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.800 talk about playoffs right now, you need a running game. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.000 And I don't believe that our running game against the 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.880 Giants is going to be dependent based upon the skill 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.880 set of the running backs that we have. Is gonna 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.600 be more based upon the offensive line's ability to create holes. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.560 You make a compelling point, my friend, I will I mean, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.400 and if you listen to the show, you I'm good 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.880 at this, Like I can turn the worst team into 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.320 like a world beater. In my mind, I'm I'm looking 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.080 hard to do it is. But if there is a 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.160 if there's a place where I look at it, I'm like, Okay, 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.040 there's some there's some guys there. They don't have Leonard Williams. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.520 Like that's there, that's the guy you would normally be worried. Yeah, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.600 and all that, I mean, Dexter Lawrence is still a 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.560 good player and he's available, right. Yeah, I get OJILARI. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.720 He doesn't. He hadn't. He doesn't have the stats. But 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.120 Lorenzo Carter has been a pretty decent player for them. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.560 They really like Georgia as rushers for some reason. But 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.640 I mean, no, you make a compelling point. I mean 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.640 they're not. I guess the other thing too, is they're 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.760 not gonna do it. That's that's my big like, Well, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.480 that's why you think I'm boring, because I'm just like, 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.000 why are we talking about this? They're not gonna do 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.200 It's why we do talk I know, that's why we 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:29.880 do talk about you. You're right, so we could talk 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.280 about that is that is a compelling point. 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