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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mondays and they should a big blue kick

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Speaker 1: cross Iron Lance Medal with you for the next sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your phone calls, to get to your tweets,

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Speaker 1: we will recap all the latest for practice, we'll get

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Speaker 1: into the pressers and we'll also hear from you on

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Speaker 1: a variety of topics. Howard, it is good to have

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Speaker 1: you back. How's everything? Things are good? A little sad today,

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Speaker 1: but things are good. Okay. Well, I dropped my daughter

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Speaker 1: take it out. We certainly wish her the best, by

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Speaker 1: the way, as she begins the collegiate career. But that's

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Speaker 1: why you were put in a room with me to

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Speaker 1: do a program. Because nothing cheers you, Howard, better than

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Speaker 1: I do. So see, there's always rash atal be high that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't remind me of my kids, you say, well,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly why I feel a need for everybody. And

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Speaker 1: I don't even have to do anything. It's just my

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Speaker 1: pure stature. It gets the job done. It is all

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Speaker 1: presented by Corps Light. So we take you for the

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Speaker 1: next six the minutes, and I want to start with

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest news of the day, Howard, and that

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Speaker 1: is what Pat Shermer said during the course of his

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Speaker 1: press conference yesterday. DeAndre Baker, one of the rookie corners,

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Speaker 1: went for an m r I. He said that he

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Speaker 1: felt something when he was just warming up, and Pat

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Speaker 1: Shermer said that they are classifying now is day to day,

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Speaker 1: which is certainly encouraging news because you know, whenever you

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Speaker 1: hear Howard a guy feels something non contact. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: everybody gets nervous based on how we hear torn A,

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Speaker 1: it's just day to day and this is one of

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Speaker 1: the guys that they're gonna be relying on opposite Genor Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: is very positive news. That's good news. You know. I

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Speaker 1: think it's more made up it than than you would think.

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Speaker 1: I think guys played on much worse a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: and I think they still do. Uh. But when your

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Speaker 1: first round draft pick and you feel something, you want

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Speaker 1: to learn everybody right away because you're basically in the

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Speaker 1: starting lineup, so they need they need to know that

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Speaker 1: your want to set when you're ready to go well.

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Speaker 1: And this is a very young nucleus of corners, so

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Speaker 1: it's also good that he should hopefully be able to

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Speaker 1: get back on the field sooner rather than later. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of the corners, when you look at the first

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Speaker 1: preseason game, Howard Corey Ballantine, I think it's somebody that

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Speaker 1: has made significant stride since he rejoined the team. He

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Speaker 1: a lot to like in terms of what he brings

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Speaker 1: You know. You know, I've got a football mind about

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Speaker 1: the way positions himself. It's just gonna be interesting to

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Speaker 1: watch him develop as the year goes on, because he

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Speaker 1: really really likes playing football. Uh I say, a football mine.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people really get that, but I think

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Speaker 1: like when you're going out, you can recognize things just

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Speaker 1: by standing out. There's not like it's almost like playing

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Speaker 1: I guess Madden or something like, Okay, we know where

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Speaker 1: He does a great job of that. Uh, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: that's something you're gonna learn. The forest means coming from

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Speaker 1: just don't tackle anymore. And it's not just him, it's

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Speaker 1: the outside man. Based on what you're saying, it's more

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Speaker 1: of a reason why the game reps are so crucial

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Speaker 1: for somebody like him. You know, I hear all these

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Speaker 1: realized that the whole world's fantasy sports and how how

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Speaker 1: who's on their team and who's gonna be healthy. But

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Speaker 1: the reality of it is, if these guys are gonna play.

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Speaker 1: I say it every year. It's it's like boxing. If

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. You're given everything you've got your

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Speaker 1: that's one of the things Pat Schirmer has said. He

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Speaker 1: even said, listen, we know everyone's not gonna make the team,

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Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, Howard, but if everybody then gets

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Speaker 1: Giants made six claims last year before they even finalized

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Speaker 1: lot more movement now. Yeah, a lot of chess pieces

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Speaker 1: being moved into place as teams try to finalize the roster. Now,

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Speaker 1: no new developments on that front, but Darius Slayton has

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Speaker 1: young player which is a common theme, Howard, that we're

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Speaker 1: His appeal is still pending for his four games expension.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a stretch to say the

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Speaker 1: Giants could very well still keep six wide receivers. Tap

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that we don't expect And this

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Speaker 1: he's looking at it, and he's seeing who's off, who's

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Speaker 1: not off. Where's the pressure coming from. If there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be pressure, wouldn't that much pressure in this game. The

430
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 1: next game there'll be more pressure. They'll put it more blitches.

431
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: So pre snap read gives him the the option of

432
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 1: one guy's playing press on one side, one guy's playing off,

433
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 1: who's playing underneath the off, off off the fender on

434
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 1: that side, and what's gonna happen I know that's a

435
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: lot of technical stuff, but that's what he's looking at.

436
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 1: So if he throws the ball into the corner of

437
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 1: end zone and puts it on the outside, it's a

438
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,919
Speaker 1: great decision because only one guy is gonna get it.

439
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: If he puts the ball across the field to the

440
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 1: white side the field, more room, more time for makeup.

441
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 1: So when quarterbacks, when you see quarterbacks make that decision,

442
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: they're standing on the probably the hash or the near hash.

443
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 1: They're looking. If they got a big, tall, gangly receiver,

444
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: they throw the ball to the far side of field

445
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: because that guy's gonna be up in a jump ball situation,

446
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: if there's all receivers and all things are the same,

447
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: you thought about to the short side of the field

448
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 1: because the ball comes out of your hand faster, and

449
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 1: it gives the receiver of time to make reactions to

450
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: the ball before the d bea can get his head around.

451
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: That's why that happens that way. Thank you for telling

452
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Speaker 1: me problem. Um I noticed the decision made he made

453
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Speaker 1: to all flowers on the right side going out and

454
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Speaker 1: the one up by I don't that's sure. If it

455
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 1: was um, I can't remember. I think it was number

456
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 1: twelve on a flat. Um, those a correct decision because

457
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: he made correct a quick adjustment. I think it was

458
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: the run play action or something and he threw a flat.

459
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 1: It was amazing. Yeah, he does a good job, like

460
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: I said, what we called pre snapper eas and getting

461
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hand extremely faster. He also

462
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: had one place where he checked to two or three

463
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 1: receivers before he released the ball, which is also pretty cool. Okay, um,

464
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: And from that note, um, I'll let you guys go

465
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Speaker 1: have a good day. Appreciate the phone call, thanks so

466
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: much for a chime and five for five sixty seven

467
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: yards the touchdown past. I think he was referring to

468
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 1: the plate of golden tate off the slant right over

469
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: the middle, And you're right, he got the ball out

470
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: of his hands very quickly. And I think you know,

471
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: when you evaluate Daniel Jones Howard, it was just one series,

472
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: and you know, we live in a time period where

473
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: everybody wants instantaneous gratification, of course, and everybody wants to

474
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: crown and say, Okay, based on this, I know what

475
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna do for the remainder of his career. You

476
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: can only judge him for what he's done, and the

477
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: bottom line is he went out there, he took advantage

478
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: of who he was going up against. He took advantage, Howard,

479
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: of being in there with the first team offensive line,

480
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: which is important to note because I mean, let's face it,

481
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins not to get all subject here, but when

482
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 1: he got into his Redskins preseason debut, he didn't necessarily

483
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,959
Speaker 1: have the luxury of a first team offensive line, and

484
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: he did throw two interceptions, and he should be much

485
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: by that. But the environment around the quarterback is important

486
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: to tell the story, Howard, just as much as the

487
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: decision making of the quarterback. Yeah, I get some of that.

488
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: I think that what they're looking at because they if

489
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: you are not saying, they don't know enough about it

490
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: to make an evaluation. But what you're looking at is

491
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: what guys are saying on TV and what guy was

492
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: sent on the radio. Oh my god, he was five

493
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: for five, he was awesome, he did this, he did that.

494
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: They didn't take into account. There was no pressure, So

495
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, forget about who's playing against. If there's no pressure,

496
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: there's no pressure. We've seen over the years, over the

497
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: last few years, what it looks like when no one

498
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: has pressure on them my own, okay, we can pick

499
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: a guy apart. When you have pressure, that's like, okay,

500
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some decisions that are gonna be made.

501
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna be questionable. Like you know, they pointed out

502
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: that he didn't send the guy in motion. If that's

503
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: a you know, big time rushing defence and everybody knows

504
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: what they're getting. They send two guys to the inside, geap,

505
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: the bat can't get both guys tight end, didn't come

506
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: in motion, You're you're out of position. So things like

507
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: that will happen. But you know, for the for the

508
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: most part, being seven or seven or like a kid

509
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: out in Arizona, Tyler he was five or six or

510
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: six or seven or something like that. That's all great.

511
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: But again, the biggest part of what's going to happen

512
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: in development of all these players, whether it's quarterback or

513
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: any position, is how do they do when live action

514
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: starts to happen. If you're forced into action, if you

515
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: getting you know, getting elevated into the position, or if

516
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: by chance they just have a few plays called for you,

517
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: that's when you figure it out. Because right now, you know,

518
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: I think the benefit, the biggest benefit most teams have.

519
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: These teams are practicing against other teams. They get to

520
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: go a little you know, full pads against each other.

521
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: I think that's helpful. I think when you're in practice

522
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: with yourself, most of the time, it's just hard to

523
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: get you know, any live activity going because you don't

524
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: want to hurt your own guys. Like I said again,

525
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: today's game has eliminated the ideal that you play a

526
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: rough game and you're gonna get banged up, You're gonna

527
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: get hurt. Today's game is more about we have to

528
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: protect these guys. How are you going to protect them?

529
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: It's football, and you're like, it's live action, like you

530
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: you're supposed to bang guys around, like the part of

531
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: part of the game. I know people don't like this

532
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: is not politically correct. This to make the other guy

533
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: want to quit. If you can make the other guy

534
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: I want to quit, you've done your job, whether you're

535
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: a receiver and the dB can't come and he's like, man,

536
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: I don't want to go out there again, or you're

537
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: a dB and the quarterback won't even look on your side.

538
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: To feel like you want the other side to quit,

539
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: you want the other side to like ignore you or

540
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: not want to be around. Like you should watch games

541
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: where Dion Sandage would not have any balls grow on

542
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: his side to feel the entire game, not like one ball,

543
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: like nothing like okay, he would play out of he'd

544
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: play out of position, trying to get you to throw

545
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: it over there, like I'm like that is bad. That

546
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: that's the bad man. He ties you or something like okay,

547
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: run by me, he's open, I dare you like you

548
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: he's a bad man, Like you don't see like that's

549
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: part of the game, is trying to make the other

550
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: team like give up and not want to play against you.

551
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: And again, when we when we keep talking about guys

552
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: getting injured, if we keep talking about like every finger

553
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: has been broken, every every tolls broken, ribs are broken,

554
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: you're playing a rough game. You're not playing golf. I

555
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: mean even Tiger withdrew the other day of the golf

556
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: and the golf match. So it's just's just part of it.

557
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: It's just I don't understand it. Uh, it's a different world. Again.

558
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: I got some old school or whatever, but I get

559
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: it between but it's it's just different. Like if and

560
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time. For you people

561
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: who are not lactose intolerant. If and I do mean if,

562
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: if you're a farmers or your dairy farmers. I wanted

563
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: to take a few days off, got a little pool,

564
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: a little strain, Yeah, getting the milk. It's a really

565
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: weird thing. If the post guy, either the guy the range,

566
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: shine and snow all that's lead us snow. Yeah, I'm

567
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: just a little warm out there, got the hydrates. May

568
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: not make the route today. It could be a lot

569
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: of things. But we just look at it differently because

570
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think it's funny. Well, and

571
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: to your point, with joint practices, which is what you're

572
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: alluding to, it's also nice to get a different look.

573
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: You get it, you get a different look, but you

574
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: get a different competition exactly because you know, guys, they

575
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: you're not my teammate and I don't have to take

576
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: care of you and practice, So I get to hit

577
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: somebody because I need to make a team. So they

578
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: need to see me being aggressive and I need to

579
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: be called off, not urged on. Yeah, I'm not gonna

580
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: be extra cautious because I know they need you for

581
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: x amount. The snaps as a cornerback about the Lions corner. Yeah,

582
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm not worried. I'm not worried. Okay, So don't get

583
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: close to the power. Plot will knock you over it

584
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: like that. That's not fair, and like, well, don't stand

585
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: near the pile like that's part of the game. But

586
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: now they're like, oh, you can't do that because you know,

587
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: we don't anybody on the ground, Like how do we tackle?

588
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: It's a really weird thing. You can't handle the heat,

589
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: you know, that's the old phrase, stay away from the kitchen.

590
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: To zero one three, let's go to Scott in New Mexico. Scott,

591
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: welcome to the Big Blue Kick Off Live. What do

592
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: you have for us? Hi? Guys, how are you doing today? Uh?

593
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep it. Uh. In regards that the

594
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: wide receivers and the tight ends on the Giants right now,

595
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: there's six wide receivers that are not starters Joan Shephard

596
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: to Marrus Scott, Wesley, Darius Layton, and Alonzo Russell. Uh.

597
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: They all bring something to the table. But there's only

598
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: three preseason games left. Can the Giants do a fair

599
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: evaluation of who should be some of the backups with

600
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: so short a period of time, or because they're not

601
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: all going to get enough time to really show what

602
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: they can do, or is that really done in training

603
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: camp and the evaluations really are more concentrated there. I

604
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: was wondering what your opinion was on that. And then secondarily,

605
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: there were a couple of players I thought from the

606
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: tight end position that looked half way decent, Garrett Dickerson

607
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: being one of them. But one player that based on

608
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: the hype I was expecting more of was C. J. Conrad,

609
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: and I didn't see what I thought I was going

610
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: to see. I guess or what my expectations were. When

611
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could comment on his progress

612
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: and whether he has a good shot of making a team,

613
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: I Scot appreciate the phone call. Thanks so appreciated. Thanks.

614
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: We'll start with the receivers. U. The way the receivers

615
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: make the team is at first off, they have have

616
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: to be multidimensional, meaning that if you're a returner, that

617
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: that makes you exceptional. The better return guy you are,

618
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: the better chance you got to make it a team.

619
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: If you're a great cover guy and they can put

620
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: you at the gunner m uh put, you're going on

621
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: a hunt team. Then your exceptional. They need you if

622
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: you're you know, the the guy that comes down, the

623
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: sprint guy on the kickoff game the team to make

624
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: sure they keep the ball like in the middle of

625
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: fields when people get to That makes you, you know,

626
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: invaluable now as a receiver, when you get your opportunities

627
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: as few opportunities you think that they're getting them these

628
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: quote unquote games, you just have to be perfect. If

629
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: you don't catch the ball, if you don't do whatever,

630
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: you have to be perfect, which means you run the

631
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: perfect route even if you little ball is not coming

632
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: to you run the perfect route when the balls in

633
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: the air, sprint to the other side of the field

634
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: to get get into the play. You every time you're

635
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: in the camera, that lets him know, okay, well this kid,

636
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: he's trying to make the team. And if you're just

637
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: run your route and you didn't get the ball in

638
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: your frustrating you kind of jog jog off to the

639
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Speaker 1: side and come back and get in the huddle. They're

640
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: watching that like every detail of your life on the

641
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: field when you go across that line is being watched.

642
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: You gotta know the right read. There was a play

643
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: in the game. I want to call a player's name

644
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: and won't say anything. But Coyleletta throws the ball, the

645
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: receiver keeps running down the field. It clearly Loletta had

646
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: called him to come back to the outside. He threw

647
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: it right where he was supposed to be standing. And

648
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: you know, Kyle's like hey, he put his hands up,

649
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: not to show him up, just like hey, what are

650
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: you doing? And and the coach comes over and says

651
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: nicely to him, here, you gotta turn around and back

652
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: that play. That one play is something that kid's gonna

653
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: He might make us seven plays on special teams, but

654
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we can't count on him in a

655
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: in a serious moment. That's how crazy, how monotonous this

656
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: whole thing is that you when you get these reps,

657
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: they mean something. Every rep means something, and you have

658
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: to be on top of it. That's one as far

659
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: as contract goes. He had had an okay game. He

660
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: can still grow and develop. They've been talking holly of them.

661
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: I heard not just outside the building, but inside the building.

662
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: They kind of like him. The other players are talking

663
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: about him. But that doesn't do anything for you. You

664
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: have to show up and perform weekend and week out.

665
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Every opportunity is a great opportunity, opportunity to prove yourself,

666
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: or opportunity to prove where you can get better, opportunity

667
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: to show that hey, maybe this is not for me,

668
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: this is this is not my team. So I think

669
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: he'll be okay? How his uh, how how do I

670
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: say if he's gonna make a team not? I'm not

671
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: every evaluation him here a few days a week, uh,

672
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Speaker 1: at desk, so I couldn't tell you how well he's doing.

673
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: And overall I mean Shermer certainly, even publicly, has said

674
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: he's excited about what he brings to the table. He

675
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: likes his blocking, he needs to improve his route running.

676
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: So you know there is at least in the media's eyes,

677
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: there's a frenzy somewhat building around him. But to your point, Howard,

678
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: media frenzy alone is not going to help you make

679
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: the team. You gotta go out and show it in

680
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: the game. And when when coaches say things like that,

681
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: it could be two things. It could be a co

682
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: man that guy's really doing well, congratulations, or that could

683
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: be a coach talking about this guy. So if he

684
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: puts him on the on the waivers that he hopes

685
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: that his kid's gonna get picked up. You have to

686
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: remember that everything that said is measured and thought about.

687
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: That they're not just talking and it's not for your

688
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: benefit the listeners and fans. It's for the benefit of

689
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: the other thirty thirty one teams. If he talks the

690
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: kid up and the kid goes on waivers, the kid

691
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: gets picked up. He did his job. Another one of

692
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: his guys are still in the league. If he said

693
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: something bad about a guy, then he cuts the guy,

694
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: No one picks him up. And wow, that guy got

695
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: back on the practice squad. How is that or if

696
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: there is it that fandom injury or not see all

697
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: of the leak that hamstring? Oh wow, man, he got

698
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: a hamstring. He's on the high I'm like, I'm in

699
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: the world. Did that guy when did he run? Did

700
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: he pull it in warm ups? Like it's it's funny

701
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: that they they're doing everything they can to keep as

702
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: much talented team as they possibly can. And you know,

703
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: which would mean people are gonna say, like that's that's

704
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: that's wrong. But yeah, but you're trying to win. You're

705
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: not trying to be right. You're trying to win and

706
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: be you know within you're not breaking the rules, but

707
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: you're all up close to him and that you see

708
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: it every week. There's always rationality behind words that are

709
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: said in a press conference sometimes as well as maneuvering

710
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: behind the scenes and also in front of the scenes.

711
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: The other thing that I wanted to add to what

712
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: you said about the wide receivers and our callers question, Scott,

713
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: I think also you need to take into consideration Betty Fowler,

714
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: Cody Lattimer and Russell Shepard were all on the team

715
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: last year, Howard. And not to say that what you

716
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: did to three years even a year ago is absolutely

717
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: gonna get you back on the team, but I would

718
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: say the coaching staff knows that they can rely on

719
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: those three guys in particular that I mentioned, because they

720
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: were put somewhat in situations as receivers last year and

721
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: made plays. Whether it was the Redskins game, if you

722
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: recall the one that Oldell Beckham was out ladderm R

723
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: know was on I R. But when he came back

724
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: he flashed and there was some mixed results. But the

725
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: point is those guys were put in positions where they

726
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: made plays as a receiver, and I don't think the

727
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: coaching staff is gonna forget about that and too overly

728
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: concerned about We've got to put them in that position

729
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: in the preseason or else we're gonna be incapable evaluating

730
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: what they can do. I like what you're saying, But

731
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: there are players on the on the field all over

732
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: the field that were starters last year, right and they are.

733
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Speaker 1: There are other players have been drafted in their position,

734
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: RP players brought it off the street of their position,

735
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: and those guys are getting opportunities now. And all of

736
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, the guy that was the quote unquote started

737
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: last year into is sitting sitting there looking from the

738
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: outside trying to get back in good graces of which

739
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: is and they did a good job or did an

740
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: average job because they started the whole season. But you know,

741
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: if you're starting the whole season and the season is

742
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: four and twelve, then it wasn't a great season. So

743
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: no matter how good you were at four twelve, we're

744
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: trying to get better. The team's trying to get better,

745
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: so that you know, as far as the receivers go,

746
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: I would not rest on anything. Of course, I'd be

747
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: more afraid now that when you see that many guys

748
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: show up. They're not just bodies, they're they're here to

749
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: make them play because somebody's always anxious to take your job.

750
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's what it is. Yeah, I mean, for example,

751
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: they brought in t J. Jones, who was looked good

752
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: at practice and also made a number of plays in

753
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: the game. Right, So there's a guy, if you're a

754
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: young player or a veteran player on this Giant's roster,

755
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Howard a few weeks ago. I mean, you're not thinking

756
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: Golden Tates has spent and you're not thinking Sterling Shepherd

757
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: thumb injury. And then all of a sudden t J.

758
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: Jones comes in and he's like, hey, guys, I'm here

759
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: to take your job. I'm not here necessarily sit back

760
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: and be a spectator. There was a little kid from

761
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Patterson that came through this through this team for a

762
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: few years and then they did the salsa and it

763
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: was one of those things where you're like this kid

764
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: from from U Mass and like from Patterson, like what

765
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: is he gonna do? And all of a sudden, wait

766
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: a minute, like he's scoring touchdowns, like he's he's wait

767
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: where did he come from? And that that that thing happens.

768
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: Lights come on, guys turn it on even more, and

769
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you may have been a veteran

770
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: and thought you were comfortable, and all of a sudden,

771
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: this guy's making plays late in the game. So late

772
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: in the game means he's playing with a third string,

773
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: fourth string guy or quarterback. Now all a sudden, he's

774
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: the third string guy, and he's been a second string guy,

775
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, it's Eli throwing the ball,

776
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, yeah, you're looking for the jobs.

777
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: You have to be careful moving up. I mean, that's

778
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: why we've seen Corey Ballantine move up the depth drug

779
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: And then even t J. Jones fits exactly what you're

780
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: talking about, Howard, because think about this. In the preseason game,

781
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: he caught a touchdown pass from Kyle aletto where he

782
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: made a great adjustment in the corner of the end zone,

783
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you get back to practice

784
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: and I'm giving a hypothetical somewhat, all of a sudden,

785
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is throwing on the ball and then the

786
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: listing on the ball in the red zone practice, and

787
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: now you're saying, where did this come from make make

788
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: a play, put it on film, and all of sudden,

789
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: coaches like, well, I kind of like them the whole

790
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: time anyway, Like you may, I've been looking to flashing

791
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: That's what happens Chooser one five one, three lanes met

792
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: on Howard crossed with you here on the latest edition

793
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: to Big Blue Kick Off Live lenn Is in Maryland, Land.

794
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: Welcome aboard. What's happening? Hey, guys, how you doing. What's

795
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: happening good? Howard, welcome back to the show. Thank you, okay, Um, Well,

796
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: we gotta win on Thursday night. I like that. I

797
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: like I like when we get wins, especially against them, guys, Howard,

798
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't care what. I don't care what you're playing

799
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: the Jets and Checkers basketball football. Win the game, win

800
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: the game. They did a good job. They did a

801
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: good job, especially you know from Daniel Jones down they

802
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: started to put some plays together, special teams everywhere. I

803
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: thought they did good. Yes, yes, yes, just a quick, quick,

804
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: quick moment on reminiscing. No. I was in the l

805
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: Bowl for the first preseason game between the Show and

806
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: the Giants fifty years ago, and it was not it

807
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: was not a good feeling when we left the stadium.

808
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: The Jets were coming off their Super Bowl year. They

809
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: whipped us badly up there, and you know the back

810
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: pages of the you know, the Daily News and the

811
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: post um really really played it up, you know that,

812
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, the new guys in town. The Jets beat

813
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: up the Giants and it was so so it was

814
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: not a fun day. It was not a fun day.

815
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: But uh, it's good. Good together win the other night. Um,

816
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, probably the best news um Lance mentioned here

817
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, and I hadn't heard

818
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: anything until Lance mentioned it. It sounds like some positive

819
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: news on DeAndre Baker, um, And that's that's that's that's good. Um.

820
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: You know, the kid is the first round draft choice.

821
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: We we're counting on him and hopefully he gets back

822
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: on the field soon and you know, the knee holes up,

823
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, through the whole season. Yeah, I think it's

824
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: it's always good. There's one one no matter what position

825
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: or draft picks. Here you're healthy. That's really good. Yes,

826
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: very good, very good. Well said how it um. You know, Um,

827
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: a lot of us ACT ACT surprised and you know

828
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: I do too about Balentine's performance. I know he's a

829
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: small college guy, and um, you know he's the you know,

830
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: Division two and uh, you know, six round draft choice.

831
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: But you know, he did win a major award last year,

832
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year in all of Division two.

833
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: So that should have given us a hint that the

834
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: guy can play a little bit. Well, he was a

835
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: track star. He's a great athlete. He forgot. I think

836
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: it's the Cliff Harris Award. I know I may be

837
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: wrong on that, but the defensive player of the year,

838
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: and you know in that that particular division. And yeah,

839
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: he's got the speed. Lance Um looks like he could

840
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: be a threat on kickoff returns. I hope he holds

841
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: the ball tighter then he then he did on one

842
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: of the turns the other night. He almost broke one,

843
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: but man, he had that ball out wide. I hope

844
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: he pulls it in. But I think he's going to

845
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: be fun to watch this year's definitely. Hey guys, let

846
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: me let me ask you a questions about about the safeties. Um,

847
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, I I feel pretty good about the safeties.

848
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you read we've got to get another safety.

849
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: I know, I know Basset isn't gonna stay around forever.

850
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: Um you know, so you know, you begin to talk

851
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: about next year in the air after that. But I

852
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: think going into the season night, I think we've got

853
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: four guys who can plain in the NFL. I I

854
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: think Chandel is okay, I mean he's not He may

855
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: not be a starting safety at this point. Landswer, you've

856
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: got any feeling about them? What do you what do

857
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: you think about our safety situation? Well, Antoine Beze, you

858
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: mentioned the polished veterans still performing at a high level.

859
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why he was up there

860
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: leading the Cardinals and tackles. He could still do something

861
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: the last time I checked. So from a veteran leadership perspective,

862
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: from a production standpoint, it has not dropped off. Jabrill

863
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: Peppers We've talked about all offseason law, so he's going

864
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: to be the compliment to Bethet. And then Michael Thomas

865
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: is the other guy you didn't mention, Chandler. I mean,

866
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: Thomas is somebody you know that relates to what Howard

867
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: was talking about. This is a guy that was on

868
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: the practice squad for the Niners. He's cut, the Dolphins

869
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: pick him up. He plays in a game against the

870
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: Patriots and intercepts Tom Brady in the end zone to

871
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: help seal the game. And he has settled into Miami

872
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: system after that, and then the Giants picked him up

873
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: because he's a good special teams guy. He's very productive

874
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: there and you know he could play also Howard in

875
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: the slot as a corner. You can move him around.

876
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: So he's like a jack of all trades. And it

877
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me this season if maybe they do put

878
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: three safeties on the field at some point. What I'm

879
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: talking about Michael Thomas serving as a corner though with

880
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: the other two safeties, I mean that's still technically having

881
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: a third safety. It is the body count. Sometimes it

882
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: gets away from they have to do it. Yeah, I

883
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: think the safeties are are gonna be. Are gonna be

884
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: the pick up the plays when we picked up a

885
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: little bit, it's gonna be. The biggest thing is gonna

886
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: be that's rush. They get some guys to guys, I

887
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: think you got a chance. If they got to hold

888
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: the ball for four or five seconds, no one's gonna cover.

889
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: But these guys definitely are smart, they're heads e they

890
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: got they've got great range, which is something that you

891
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: need from a safety grade range and you've got two

892
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: young corners. Well Jack Rabbit is not that young, but

893
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: you've got some young corners that are coming along with

894
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: some speed. They can help you out as well. So

895
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: the secondary is gonna be one of the strong points

896
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: of the defense. Yeah. Hey, let me let me ask

897
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: you about one more player on the defensive side that

898
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: the seventh round picks late. Uh, that's that's a big

899
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: young man. And when he got on the when he

900
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: got on the field, um mostly second half spelling Lawrence

901
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: and and Jenkins. I I thought he held his home

902
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: and he held his own in the middle. I think

903
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that kid can play a little bit. He's he looks

904
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: like he's nobody's gonna move him around. He's pretty stout

905
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of that line. And we're gonna need it.

906
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: You know, We're gonna need a back up for Lawrence.

907
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: He's not going to play every play, obviously, but I

908
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: I liked him last yet, what do you what do

909
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: you think? Well, you're referring to Chris Layden out of Syracuse,

910
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, I still think he's a

911
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: bit raw. And time will tell the other guy that

912
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: you didn't bring up that I wouldn't sleep on him.

913
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: This is no disrespect to Chris Layden. Olson Pierre is

914
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: on the team. Let's not forget about him. You know,

915
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: when when you start counting the defensive lineman, and you know,

916
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: sometimes that's a numbers game, Howard, when it comes to

917
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: how many guys they could keep. I would not dismiss

918
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: Olson Pierre who I think James Betcher the reason why

919
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: he brought him in is because he sees a lot

920
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: of potential in him and he didn't play it awful

921
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: lot in Arizona, and maybe they can rotate him. And

922
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: that's a guy I think I would keep close tabs

923
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: on as opposed to maybe jumping so quickly to Chris Layden.

924
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: Right now, yeah, yeah, no, I I think I think

925
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: I think is going to make the team. Yeah, I

926
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: would be very But but there was something about Slayton

927
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: and his strength. I mean, he looked like a guy

928
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: who didn't need a year um in that you know,

929
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: conditioning or or in the weight room. This this guy

930
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: looked like he was NFL strong. Well, he's six I mean,

931
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: you can't have enough of those guys. Well, as I

932
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: mentioned n he's six four three oh seven. Now, grant

933
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: that everybody's huge, to me, so I'm not necessarily a

934
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: good persons he like everybody, I guess, not so much

935
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: about the height and weight because Lawrence, it's obviously you're right,

936
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: but Lawrence, but Lawrence moves around very well. This guy was,

937
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean he was he was strong, I mean physically

938
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: strong and not going to move him around them there. Yeah, yeah,

939
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: and Tom will tell I mean, I mean, I think

940
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: the jury is still out and appreciate the phone call,

941
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Len and I get that, you know, you saw some

942
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: flashes later in the preseason game and how this gets

943
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: back to when we're talking about Daniel Jones. Perspective. Context

944
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: is important here, so you know, Ulsid Pierre to me

945
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: is a little bit more appealing at this point because

946
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: he's a veteran who's had a lot more experience. And

947
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: I think that if you look at the numbers game,

948
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: here's another guy that we didn't talk about. R J

949
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: McIntoshes magnintosh is also a big guy that can can

950
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: move people around. I think when it comes down to

951
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: the defensive line, they're gonna they're gonna try to fill

952
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: those three interior positions the best they can. And they

953
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: got too, you know, to high draft picks in there

954
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: right now that I have a third uh probably like

955
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: floating around and it came from another team, and some

956
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: of these young guys are gonna have an opportunity now

957
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: where can they kind of fit in and do something better?

958
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: If one guy could cover, that's going to help. And

959
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: I thought I saw a ninety number on the field

960
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: till the night and let kickoff team, so that that

961
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: alone will get you, get you in, get you on

962
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: the field, especially if you're talking about being the fourth

963
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: or fift defensive line, and you better be able to

964
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: play special teams. There's no doubt about that. Two zero

965
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: one five one three. Let's head back to the lines.

966
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jason in Maine. Jason, welcome to Big

967
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: Blue Kick Off Live. What do you have for us? Hey, Lass, Howard?

968
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: How are you guys? Very good? Jason Good. I wanted

969
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: to ask Howard about the tight ends, not Allison or Ingram,

970
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: but I'm wondering the guys, the other guys on the foster.

971
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Is there a maybe a guy that you've watched so

972
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: far that's kind of standing out that you think could

973
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: be uh, somebody special force? I think right now, to

974
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: be fair to them, I think they're all kind of

975
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: like bunching together. They're waiting for a guy to break out.

976
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: You gotta remember, the tight end position now is a

977
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: position that that is a slot guy, inline guy, a fullback,

978
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: and a guy that can spread out. So I think

979
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: they're leaning towards if you if you're ask me without

980
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: knowing the entire offense, But what they're leaning towards is

981
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: that guy that is more that fullback, the kind of

982
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: guy that can go fullback inline and maybe go out

983
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: to the slot. He won't be so much outside guy.

984
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: But that those are the three positions. I think that

985
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: they're leaning towards because it's a multidimensional position that helps

986
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: out a lot. When you can come out of the

987
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: backfield and be the lead blocker forsake one and then

988
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're an inline. You have two

989
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: tight ends in the field. Uh are are you playing

990
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: the flood position where you're you're the either the guy

991
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: right off the tell little the inline guy. It makes

992
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: a lot of difference and gives you a lot more opportunities,

993
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: and they're gonna need more of that as they go along.

994
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: This This season is gonna be a season of Okay,

995
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get the ball down for we

996
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: want to stretch the ball down the field. But you

997
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: got the rookie of the year and say, kwe I

998
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: know he's gonna catch some balls out of the backfield,

999
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: but he's also gonna be handed balls. You're gonna need

1000
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: somebody to help lead the way for him. Uh when

1001
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: he when he's in that position or in that formation

1002
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: so he can get it out there. That guy is

1003
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna be invaluable. Now, they do have a fullback on

1004
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: the roster right now, but a guy that can go

1005
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: like I said again, the fullback doesn't usually go inline blocking.

1006
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: So a guy that can go stand on stand on line, scrammage,

1007
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: stand in the backfield, go to the go to the

1008
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: wing position, and then go to the slot, that guy

1009
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: is gonna be the guy that's gonna make a big difference.

1010
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: Red Ellison certainly comes to mind because he played fullback

1011
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: when he's with the Vikings, and to your point, he

1012
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: could be moved around. And then when you look at

1013
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: some of the other guys like a Conrad. We talked

1014
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: about him blocking, but what can he do as a receiver.

1015
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Garrett Dickerson is another guy we didn't bring up Dickson's

1016
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: good good guy. I think when you think of the

1017
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: tight ends and the team, now you think of Ingram

1018
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: outside in, Yeah, Ellison inside out. Now you're trying to

1019
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: find you know a guy is kind of inside out

1020
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: that could you can let Elson go a little more

1021
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: outside in or guy is totally outside in, but he

1022
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: can get in the backfield. So that's what that's what

1023
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: we're looking for. And Scott Simonson is also back on

1024
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the roster to somebody that was on the team last

1025
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: year who caught the pass early from Eli Manning in

1026
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: the season, and Simonson is more of an inline guy. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1027
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: can I ask one more question? Um again, it's for Howard.

1028
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if if you are a tight end

1029
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: and maybe you're not very big in size, and I

1030
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: know a lot of times your assignment is to give

1031
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: extra protection to the quarterback. So most likely there could

1032
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: be a guy coming on a rush that's bigger than

1033
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: you are. Is there is there any kind of technique

1034
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: you can use to help you if you're the smaller guy. Yeah,

1035
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: you have to know first off, with no schemes and angles.

1036
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: So let's say that there that that you're you're leaving

1037
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: me singled outside on a defense V and he's playing

1038
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Why nine technique, which means he's gonna run around the

1039
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: edge and go up the field. So I stepped out

1040
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: to him and try to force him inside. When he

1041
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: goes inside, I can ride him into the pile. If

1042
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: he stays outside, there's not a lot I can do

1043
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: other than try to catch him on his hip and

1044
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: try to get him so wide that he runs around

1045
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback and he's come back from the inside out,

1046
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: and if he tries to run over me, I cut him.

1047
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: But inside of that, that's just that's that's what I

1048
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: learned to do. That's the way I learned to play it. Uh,

1049
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: it's harder for guys that it's harder for players now

1050
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: to to get in the rhythm of it because you're

1051
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: doing it mentally and you're trying to go through the

1052
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: steps without the actual force or the pressure or the

1053
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: contract and the leverage. So as they're trying to figure

1054
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: it out, Like I was listening to say Kwan Tod,

1055
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: they talk about taking on rushers, right, So he's trying

1056
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: to explain it and I'm listening and I don't I

1057
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: don't say anything, and he walks away. I think about it.

1058
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh so he was explaining how, okay, I'm

1059
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: pretty good against these kinds meaning like maybe d I'm

1060
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: pretty good against the linebacker, and he was talking about

1061
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: his technique. I'm pretty good against you know, trying to

1062
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: help against the line and he's talking about his technique

1063
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: and then he walks away, and I thought about but

1064
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: we never talked about the angles of how to make

1065
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: it easier on himself, you know, bigger, strong guy, like, Okay,

1066
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna man up and try to get a

1067
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: guy and I'm gonna try to hang on as long

1068
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: as i can to the ball gets out, you can

1069
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: take an angle on guy and just take him out

1070
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: of the play, and you just it's just something that

1071
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: you learned, something you have to think about. It's just

1072
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: it's just part of it, you know, And it's and

1073
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: it's it's something that you can try to teach. But

1074
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: if they don't see it right off the bat, it's

1075
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: a hard thing to to to recognize. Like like Jesse

1076
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: Armstair would be a guy I remember when he would

1077
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: rush or do something, he would always take the right angle.

1078
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: That would be hard for you to block him because

1079
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: he was coming at great speed. But he took the

1080
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: right angle. He was gonna hand on him. He's like,

1081
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: but if he came the wrong angle, you slap him

1082
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: on the ground. He's like a little bit of guy.

1083
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: But that's that's where the game is in terms of

1084
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: leverage in those circumstances. And Jason appreciate the phone call

1085
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: than you wait and you got Let's go to Joe

1086
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Joe, what do you have for us? Oh?

1087
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: I uh, I just want to say hello. How to

1088
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's always one of my favorites. They're a block.

1089
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: Well that makes one of us, so that's good. But anyway, continue,

1090
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: Uh that first drive there, I guess you know what

1091
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean. I have to give credit to the Jets quarterback.

1092
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: We had pressure on him and he moved around in

1093
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: that pocket a couple of times, and there was pressure

1094
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: and he threw him two balls there, you know, and

1095
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: and well the first one Peppers there let it go

1096
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: right through his hands. There. I heard when we were

1097
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: uh needed some receivers, Peppers was offering to uh moved

1098
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: to the offensive side him, and I heard a joke.

1099
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: One of them said that the offensive corp in there

1100
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: said I was going to bring you in in here

1101
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: to uh play wide receiver, but after you had dropped

1102
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: that one, and I sort of you know what I mean,

1103
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: I think they need them right now more for safety.

1104
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, the linebackers, they played pretty good. Who's that

1105
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: one guy that, you know what I mean the intercepted

1106
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: the ball on that you know, do you think he

1107
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: has a shot that this team? Probably as on the

1108
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: practice squad though, I think he has a good shot.

1109
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: I think he does does enough in special teams. I

1110
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: think he's an acting player. He gets around, he's trying

1111
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: to get on every team. Uh, just look for him

1112
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: to show up when you're watching these games. If if

1113
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: they're punting the ball or punt returns, they're kicking off

1114
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: the ball, if you see his number flash, then you'll

1115
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: know that his his UH stock is going up, so

1116
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: to speak. And that's that's what helped guys out. Yeah.

1117
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: Another thing are qubis. Boy, they all stepped it up

1118
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: from last year. They all looked pretty good there this year. Seriously,

1119
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a decision there. And I was hearing too,

1120
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, the the Eagles lost their quarterback, their backup

1121
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: you know, for a short period of time. If you're

1122
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: talking about Neates Sudfeldt, he's expected to be back maybe

1123
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: by the third or fourth game, so he's not gonna

1124
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: be necessarily missing a bulk of the season. Well, I whatever,

1125
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: I whatever. I like the crack up wins a few

1126
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: times too there, so you know, get him there. Because

1127
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm eagle, I have to deal with them around here.

1128
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: That's the break they are. H Well, I'm gonna say here.

1129
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: You talked earlier too, she said, six guys we picked up?

1130
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: Are we number six in the in line for the

1131
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: waiver wire this year? Again? Then? Yeah, it goes based

1132
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: on draft order until you get into the regular season.

1133
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: I think it's maybe the second week of the regular

1134
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: season when it turns over. I'm I'm not exactly sure

1135
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: which week, but yes, it goes by the draft. Them

1136
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: six guys we picked up last year? Do you have

1137
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: them one there? Did they make the team? I can't

1138
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: be called they were well, I don't understand what do

1139
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: you mean by made the team? They made those claims

1140
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: when they were finalizing. Did any of them stick with

1141
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: the Giants? I'm trying to think he's this year you're

1142
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, an Tonio Hamilton's was one of the

1143
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: guys who was certainly on the right. Spencer Pulley was

1144
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: another one of those guys, obviously. Yeah, Mike Jordan's was

1145
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: another guy. He is not on the team. He was

1146
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: a cornerback. I'd have to look up the rest, but

1147
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: two of them, Polly and Hamilton's, and we'll talking about

1148
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: two guys that have more than a realistic chance of

1149
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: making the team. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I I said, there

1150
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: is there is that. We're in a pretty good position again,

1151
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: so you know, there is gonna be some good players.

1152
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: Let's go from some teams that's for sure to look at,

1153
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: you know. So okay, go Giants. Thanks again taking my call.

1154
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: You got it and appreciate the phone call. Thanks so

1155
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: much for Wayne in. All right, so here's the rest

1156
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: of the players. Mario Edwards who left via free agency,

1157
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: so he's no longer on the team. Michael Jordan. I

1158
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: brought up Cameron Moore, who unfortunately is on the suspended list.

1159
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: And then you've got Caitlin Clay who was a wide

1160
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: receiver slash return guy. He was in Carolina with Ghettoman

1161
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: and he didn't last the whole season because of course

1162
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: they had injuries, they rotated guys, So those were the

1163
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: six players that were claimed to answer your question, Joe,

1164
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: when they were finalizing the fifty three man roster. Let's

1165
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: go to Ramone in Florida as we move along on

1166
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. What's happening Ramone? Well, you got

1167
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: for us as a two question about Golden Tate. Um,

1168
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: do you guys know win? Um that will know if

1169
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: he's obviously one night before we've gone, you know, win

1170
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: like the third preseason four season. Well, I think that

1171
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: probably sooner rather than later is the best answer I

1172
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: could give you. Pat Yours actually asked about that today

1173
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: and they have no news on that front. There's been

1174
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: some rumors that within three days usually the NFL has

1175
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: an answer, but obviously that did not hold true with

1176
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: respect to Golden Tate. So to give you an answer

1177
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: would be completely around about guests. I would say it

1178
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: would stunt me to answer your question, Ramone. If the

1179
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: Giants don't know before the start of the season, they're

1180
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna know for the sake of if he's got to suspend,

1181
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: if he's got to serve in four game suspension, then

1182
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna know for the sake of making a transaction

1183
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: and considering Gold to take it play throughout the entire preseason.

1184
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: As long as the Giants know before the fifty three

1185
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: man is finalized, it really doesn't make that big of

1186
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: a difference in the long one. Right now, I think

1187
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: that if you think about it, it's up to the

1188
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: NFL to to get back to them. Of course, it's

1189
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: not really up to the Giants. They're just trying to,

1190
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully the NFL's mindful of it and they

1191
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: get everything done. But his is not the only case

1192
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: out there either. There are other guys with other issues

1193
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: that they're all trying to please try to get out

1194
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: of it. Well, but I guess from this perspective, Howard,

1195
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: and you bring up in point what what I'm saying is,

1196
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: as long as they find out before the fifty three

1197
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: man roster is finalized, then this way maybe they can

1198
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: put them on the suspend unless they keep it. Receiver, No,

1199
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: I get, I get what you're saying. It's just that

1200
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: there the problem is that if he was the only

1201
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: guy in the entire league they can make a decision

1202
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: to move on. They're like little things popping up all

1203
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: around that the league has to make the decision, and

1204
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: whoever it is, I don't think it's like forty guys

1205
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: that they're making a decision. It's probably one of two

1206
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: guys in a reviewing all the information, the appeal hearing

1207
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: and if you have an appeal hearing, and that's a

1208
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: legal thing, and then you gotta get other people involved it.

1209
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: It's it's like a it's a process. Let's let's leave

1210
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: it like that. It's it's a process with a capital P.

1211
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: But I guess the point that I was also alluding

1212
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: to is that whether they get an answer on tight

1213
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: or not, they're still gonna work him in with the

1214
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: first team and get him ready for the season and

1215
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: then they'll have the few receivers that The sad part

1216
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: is that the guy that makes the team, if there

1217
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: is suspended take comes back, then what happens to him? Yeah, well,

1218
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: I always say this, you across that bridge when you

1219
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: come to it. If you're the guy that's making the

1220
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: team for the first four weeks of the season, you're

1221
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: gonna be all smiles and you can be like, speak

1222
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: to me week four. Then I'll be worried about whether

1223
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: or not they're gonna make your transaction exactly. Question what

1224
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: is yeah, what else you have you guys show anything?

1225
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: Or maybe they're looking to maybe get a receive what

1226
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: you know the ones that I left, like microcraft things

1227
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: like that, or they're just gonna wait until um Golden

1228
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: States spending, or they're just gonna go with a certain

1229
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: sheperd and and and Kobe Lattimore and and see how

1230
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: that plays out in a week five because for him

1231
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: to come back, or or do you know anything about that?

1232
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Well remote We'll let you go on that note. Do

1233
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call, Thanks so much for weighing in.

1234
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: And this question is brought up more often than not

1235
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: Howard on this program. My response is they've already made

1236
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: transactions because they brought in t. J. Jones, and they

1237
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: brought back amb Editawo, So they brought in guys to

1238
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: try on and so forth. And I think if you're

1239
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: the giants, you want to continue to evaluate what you

1240
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: have in the house before you bring in a random

1241
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: guy who also is not familiar with your scheme at

1242
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: this stage. I think it's more uh the coach that

1243
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: Pat says it all the time. Pat says, we're comfortantly evaluating,

1244
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: not just our guys or other guys around the league.

1245
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: So they're evaluating other guys around the league. They're evaluating

1246
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: their own guys. These guys that are out there right now.

1247
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Obviously they're out there because thirty two teams haven't seen

1248
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, well, they're just not in our mode

1249
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: right there. We we have someone that we think it's

1250
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: gonna work. We have someone that we think it's gonna be,

1251
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: uh not as good ats but maybe better that we

1252
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 1: may have some money that's in the right price point.

1253
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: So these guys are out in the market because the

1254
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: price point isn't right, the the timing isn't right, and

1255
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: teams have invested times and all these other guys, and

1256
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: they have other guys in front of them, slated and

1257
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: waiting for see if one of those guys shake out.

1258
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: When veterans are out there in the market and waiting,

1259
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: they're waiting because there's no market for them at the time.

1260
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: And also you have to factor in veterans get guaranteed

1261
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: contracts if they're signed before the season starts. So that's

1262
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: why you see a lot of them get signed after

1263
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: Week one. That's why there's no market for them. That's

1264
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: the polite way of putting a factor. All right, let's

1265
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: get back to the phone lines. Charlie's in Portland, Mad.

1266
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: What's happened to charlieky Cross? I gotta cross to bear?

1267
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: How are you very good? How are you doing? Charlie good? Good?

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Speaker 1: A Lance? Hey, I got a question. I got a

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Speaker 1: question for you, Howard. Isn't the NFL just as exciting,

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Speaker 1: if not more now than when you play? Is it

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Speaker 1: exciting now? Or I think it's football? I think I

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Speaker 1: think if you enjoy the game, it's it's exciting. Amoutter

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Speaker 1: when it when it is? I think that now, Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's such a huge focus on the offense that they're

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Speaker 1: scoring a lot more points. Like I think every league,

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Speaker 1: every sport, everybody wants to score more points. So you know,

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Speaker 1: look at how many home runs they've hit this year,

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Speaker 1: Like you just want to see more scoring. So that

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Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. But as far as

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Speaker 1: the game itself, the game is pretty cool. And Howard,

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Speaker 1: I want to know, because I mean, if I was

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Speaker 1: a tight end, right you're not Giants camp and I

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Speaker 1: saw you walking around, I would say I would come

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Speaker 1: over to you and say pick your brain. I would

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Speaker 1: pick your brain. Is any of these guys ever do

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Speaker 1: that to you? Do they ever come to you? And

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Speaker 1: I think that today's players they might recognize like uh,

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Speaker 1: like if Lawrence Taylor came in, they'd come over as a,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, it's Lawrence Taylor. But they wouldn't come

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Speaker 1: over and go like, you know, how did you do that? Lt?

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Speaker 1: They just don't. That's just not unless you're a quote

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Speaker 1: unquote a guy who studied the game. And when you're

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Speaker 1: a kid and you watched it and you wanted to

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Speaker 1: be like some guys, you'd come to ask questions. But

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Speaker 1: most of these guys, uh. And it's not a knock

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Speaker 1: on them or anything, but most of these guys think

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Speaker 1: they got the answers already and they just have to

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Speaker 1: have to learn to go. Like I think when you

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Speaker 1: watch players players that were like in basketball, they were

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Speaker 1: like they were NBA players. They weren't star players. They

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Speaker 1: made great coaches. Players that were star players that could

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Speaker 1: do anything, they're horrible coaches like because they because they

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Speaker 1: could do what at the end of the yeah, like Charlie,

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Speaker 1: they can't relate together. There was the other day there

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Speaker 1: was a headline saying they want Dixon the punter to

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Speaker 1: be like Jeff Siegels. They want him to be a Siegels,

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Speaker 1: And I'm going, why don't you ask Jeff Siegels to

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Speaker 1: work with a guy since he's right here? And you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, because Jeff Fegeles cost a lot of

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Speaker 1: money to don't ask him to do that, and Howard's

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Speaker 1: asking prices through the roof. I mean, we're lucky. But

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Speaker 1: as you know, as no Joe glances making a joke,

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Speaker 1: you should you don't get guys to come over for free,

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Speaker 1: all out of the goodness of your heart to come

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Speaker 1: stand around and help coach. Like the greatest example I

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Speaker 1: can give my son played high school ball. I coached

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Speaker 1: him through every sport, my daughter through every sport. When

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Speaker 1: they got to high school, someone was getting paid to

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Speaker 1: coach them. So I stepped aside when sending his dance congratulations,

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Speaker 1: good job with the gold team, and people like, man,

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Speaker 1: weren't you helping him? Like' and the coach like I

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Speaker 1: respect that. I'm like every he's like, I'm glad you do.

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Speaker 1: Come and sit at him and be right here cheering

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Speaker 1: for you. Coach, you for give, and it's it's a

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Speaker 1: funny thing and I don't think people realize that, Like

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Speaker 1: some guys don't want to ever let go of the

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Speaker 1: game and they would like to come in here and

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Speaker 1: talk about it and be there with him and and

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Speaker 1: some guy's value it and say like, hey, look I

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Speaker 1: would love to help, but like, you know, hire me

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Speaker 1: to help you. And guys get that. So it's just different.

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Speaker 1: Now be a consultant or something like, wait, we're fans,

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Speaker 1: but we're also one of your things. We got exactly

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Speaker 1: then one other thing. You know, Now the thing is

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Speaker 1: like this, you know, this is Barkley, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is like we're putting an awful lot on this guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is his you know, it's he's the

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Speaker 1: only he's the guy. I mean, if he went down

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Speaker 1: to two or three games, what do we got. You know,

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Speaker 1: at least before we had Odel and we also had Barkley,

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Speaker 1: So if one of them wasn't there, or if one

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Speaker 1: of them wasn't you know, doing well that game or whatever,

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Speaker 1: we had the other guy. Now we just got this

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Speaker 1: one guy. And if he you know, if he expect

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Speaker 1: this guy to do everything, well that's what you were

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Speaker 1: saying the year before Barkley with O'Dell, weren't you like

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Speaker 1: we only have Odell? Like what else? Who else is

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Speaker 1: gonna help us? How we're gonna get through this? Then

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Speaker 1: Odell and Barkley were here together for like twelve games

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Speaker 1: and like, oh my god, they're they're they're playoff each other.

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Speaker 1: This is awesome. And then all of a sudden it

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Speaker 1: was just Barkley. You kind of saw what it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like if it's just Barclay. I think that the

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Speaker 1: player to watch this year and hopefully he stays healthy,

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Speaker 1: is not say Kwan Barkley or Daniel Jones or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. It's actually Ingram. Ingram is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: guy who's gonna be the biggest difference maker on the

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Speaker 1: team because he's gonna he's a matchup nightmare. He's super fast,

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Speaker 1: he can get open in a lot of different positions. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be interesting to see how teams defend

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Speaker 1: Ingram uh not the other receivers in the no offense

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Speaker 1: to any of them. It's going to be the Ingram

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Speaker 1: show because he's going to be the guy that that

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Speaker 1: that if he wants to run down the field and

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Speaker 1: run by somebody, he has a speed to do that.

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Speaker 1: Then once you get a guy that can do that

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Speaker 1: and can from an inside is it just makes it

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Speaker 1: hard on the defense. Yeah, I hope that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Can you stay healthy and we'll sign out. Charlie appreciate

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Speaker 1: the phone call, Thanks so much. Evan Ingram showed some

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Speaker 1: flashes final four games. If he could piggyback off of that,

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Speaker 1: that certainly would be a very good sign for the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. That is going to wrap things up

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Speaker 1: for Monday's edition to Big Blue Kickoff Live. It is

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Speaker 1: all presented by Coors Light. Will be back up and

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Speaker 1: running again tomorrow at one p m. Eastern. Howard, it

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Speaker 1: was good to catch up and go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: All right, Lance Man, that was pretty good absolutely for

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Speaker 1: Howard cross on, Lance Meadow. Enjoy the rest of your

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Speaker 1: Monday and always stay locked to Giants dot com. Have

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Speaker 1: a go on