1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: Welcome back in hour number three, final hour of an 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: incredible week of fun. Let's close out and celebrate. We 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: begin the hour with our good friend Julie Kelly, who 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: has been on top of jan six Jack Smith, everything 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: else for years now coming on to talk about all 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: of this with us. But I just want to start 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: with this, Julie, how much did you enjoy Tuesday night? 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: Was there a moment that for you was like the 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: apex of happiness? I know we've joked before about what 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: having a camera on Jack Smith would have been like. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: I hope you thought about that idea at least once 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: as all the returns were coming in. Do you still 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: just kind of find yourself walking around with a smile 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: on your face? 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: Totally. Clay and I did repost our conversation from a 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: few months ago when you said you love to have 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: a camera in the room when Trump won a camera 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: on Jack Smith. I retweeted that because it's so true. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: You know, the first people I thought about when I 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: woke up Tuesday, or of course the January sixth ers, 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: knowing how much the Trump victory would mean to them. 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: And then, you know, as the night progressed and the 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: returns were coming in and looking so positive, and Jay 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: Sixer started to text me and I think it was 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: just like later that night realizing, Wow, the good the 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: good guys when I think it was like one o'clock 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 3: or so, the good guys won, the bad guys lost 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: are going to face repercussions, which of course I will 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: happily work on. And then most importantly, the burden lifted 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: off of JA sixers, knowing that there's hope for them, 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: relief around the corner, and exoneration at the very least 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: claimed up their own government not referring to them domestic 35 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: Paris anymore. 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Julie, can you just for everybody you know, we've had 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: you on a lot to talk about the J six defendants, 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: give a sense, because you know, the media and a 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: lot of the media that I'm talking about those who 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: listen to us and who are part of our extended 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: radio family here don't pay attention to. But for a 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: lot of Americans, what they've been told is there's all 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: this violence, and only the most serious people have faced 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: any you know, serious crimes, have faced any consequests from 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: January sixth. Some of the people who are who have 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: or are serving prison sentences on the lower end in 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: terms of offenses include what like tell us some of 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: those stories so people can really know this is what 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: was done to them and this is how unjust it was. 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: Right, So let's start with the misdemeanors. There are four 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: common misdemeanors that the government that this DOJ has brought 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: against J six ers for the very first time. Early 53 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: on the Chief Judge Beryl Howell, the shameless Trump hater, 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: she overthought Special Council Robert Mueller's probe and then ran 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: the courthouse. During the early two years of the JA 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: sixth prosecution, she openly seven courts, we never deal with 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: Class B misdemeanors in this courthouse. But that's exactly what 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: they've been doing. So they more than I think seven 59 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: hundred defendants only had this miss before misdemeanors applied to them. 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: And this is parading in the Capitol, this is being 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: on restricted grounds where a Secret Service protectee is disorder 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: the conduct, and on Capitol grounds just being there even 63 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: have engaged in disorderly conducts. So there are four common 64 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: misdemeanors Nonetheless, these people were tormented by the j dragged 65 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: TODC for core proceedings and in almost every case claim 66 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: bucks faced some sort of prison time, whether it was 67 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: thirty days or some met Some were sentenced to the 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: maximum number of months, which is twelve months for these misdemeanors, 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: and they were thrown in federal prison for this. So 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: that to me is the lowest king fruit that I 71 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: think is something that the President can sign up on 72 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: day one, is immediate pardons for all of them, the 73 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: misdemeaning cases. Then you get into trickier areas well, as 74 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: you know, the Supreme Court, and we've talked about this. 75 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: The Supreme Court overturned how the DOJ unlawfully applied fifteen 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 3: twelve C to obstruction of an official proceeding, which was 77 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: the post on run tampering with evidence and documents that 78 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: you also used for the very first time in J 79 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: six cases. More than three hundred J sixers charged with 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: that felony, so that has been overturned. Many defendants have 81 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: gone to court speaking that to have that conviction, whether 82 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: they pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial, to have 83 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: those convictions vacated. So all of those individuals should easily 84 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: be pardoned in the existing any existing indictment. Strap then 85 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: you get into trickier areas assault on police. Right, they're 86 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: a handful of those cases that really need to be 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: closely examined where there really was violence involved. But for 88 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: the most part, even those charged and convicted with assaulting 89 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: or interfering with police, that's the statute assault interfering inhibiting 90 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: law enforcement. This could be to someone who yelled at 91 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: a police officer, who touched a riot shield, who threw 92 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: a water bottle towards police Siennes, and we see things 93 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: like that all the time in protests, correct, We thought 94 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: certainly throughout twenty twenty in Washington, DC, but they were 95 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: never charged with this federal statute, So we need to 96 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: look more closely. I think that will be the sickier area, 97 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: the grayer area as to where pardons should apply. Even 98 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: the most egregious cases, their sentences should be commuted. You 99 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: have a man, Julian Cator, who has been in prison 100 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: since March of twenty twenty one his arrest. He was 101 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: one of two of the fall guys for the death 102 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: of Brian's Sickness, claiming that because he was hit with 103 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: pepper spray. That's how he died of a stroke the 104 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: next day. Julian Cater arrested on an airplane in New 105 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 3: Jersey March of twenty twenty one, accused of spraying Brian 106 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: Signick with a small thing of pepper spray. He languished 107 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: in the DC ulag awaiting trial. He was tormented for 108 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: almost two years before he accepted a previal. Then he 109 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: was sentenced to seven years in federal prison. That is, 110 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction, let 111 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: alone in Washington DC. Those are the sort of cases 112 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: that to me, are ripe for commuting sentences and cream 113 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 3: these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere to 114 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: the sentences that they've received. 115 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: Julie, I'm stunned, and we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's 116 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: been covering the jan sixth cases, the Jack Smith prosecutions, 117 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: the law fair against Trump in general with US now 118 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: for years. I'm stunned, even knowing how political this all was, 119 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: that the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah, 120 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: Jack Smith, you're done. Did that surprise you? What is 121 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: the latest on these cases and where should it go? 122 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: From here. 123 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: Let me ask you like broad question, if you know, 124 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should we do 125 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: about these Jack Smith prosecutions? What would you suggest Republicans 126 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: coming into power should do? Investigate the investigator? Where should 127 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: this go? What's the latest? Are you surprised by how 128 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: quickly all of this house of cards collapsed? 129 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: Yes? I am so. Number One, the Florida Document's case. 130 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: As you know, Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July 131 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: based on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith. The DOJ 132 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: and Jack Smith have that now on appeal, So what 133 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: we're expecting next is that Jack Smith will pull back 134 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: that appeal, drop their appeals. Judge Cannon's order then stands, 135 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: which is very interesting as to how it will affect 136 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: future Special councils. Number two, I will admit I'm surprised 137 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: the Jack Smith and the DOJ is dropping the Washington 138 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: case so quickly because Judge Chuckkin on October twenty eighth, 139 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: a few days before the election, set deadlines in that 140 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 3: case into mid and late December. She wanted to drag 141 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: this out until the very last minute, even if Trump won. 142 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: I actually thought that Jack Smith would at least continue 143 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: to pursue those deadlines. Those motions have one more court perance, 144 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: right to drag out all this evidence before judge. Chuck hints, 145 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: I really thought that they were going to hold that 146 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: to the last minute, Steven. If Donald Trump won, that 147 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: is not the case. So it does look like this 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: laws there really has backfired. Now you saw Jim Jordan today, 149 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: a letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee. He 150 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents, 151 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: evidence in both cases, communications with other parties. Of course, 152 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: this is something I've been pushing for months. I've got 153 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: a piece on my substant you classified with Lutelli that 154 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: spells out the prosebatorial of use and misconduct in both 155 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: of those cases, especially the Florida case, where you guys 156 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: know I was at that courthouse numerous times, covering first 157 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: him what was happening there, and the revelations about you know, 158 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: the mar Lago armed grades where agents violated even the 159 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 3: very broad terms of that search warrant. There are accusations 160 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: of doctoring, hampering, and even destroying evidence in that case, 161 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: threatening witnesses. One of the co defendants, a close aid 162 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: personal aids of Donald truy Up, who Jay Bratt, who 163 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: was one of Jacksmith's top henchmen, tried to bully him 164 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: and threaten him and his attorneys into flipping and becoming 165 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: a government cooperator in that case. The misconduct and criminality 166 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: in the Special Council's office, not just Jack Smith, but 167 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: his prosecutors and some of his investigators is very evident 168 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: from the trial, from the proceedings in both cases, and 169 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: also guys, as I was posting today, Jack Smith spent 170 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: at least fifty million dollars two years of this investigation, 171 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: millions and contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in white 172 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: shoe law firms, but also more than eleven million dollars 173 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: in salaries and benefits. And this was just the first 174 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: fourteen months. By the way, this is probably topping twenty 175 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: million dollars just in salaries and benefits. Because he's way 176 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: behind in his obligated required financial reporting. All of his expenses, 177 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: including his personal protective details. Every single dollar must be 178 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: accounted for, because I want to see where those contracts went, 179 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: and who those employees were, and how they spent so 180 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: much money. And then at the end you might come 181 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: to be handed. 182 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her sub stack. You 183 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: want to read her great analysis and support her work. Julie, 184 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: you're in contact with both the Trump side of this 185 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: equation and also lawyers and families of J six individuals. 186 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: Just just what's it like for them to know that? Well, 187 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: how much do we know at this point? I mean, 188 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be 189 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons. 190 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: What can you tell us about where this is going? 191 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: I could say just I was overwhelmed with text messages 192 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: from attorneys from JAY sixers and their loved ones, so 193 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: relieved and hopeful that Trump won. Now the hard work 194 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: really begins. So it's just, you know, putting together the teas. 195 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: I really believe that President Trump is extremely devoted to 196 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: the part in commutation project. Whoever, his new Attorney General 197 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: will be particularly in acting DCUs attorney where all these 198 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: cases are litigated out of that individual must immediately, on 199 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: January twentieth, twenty twenty five, shut down what the Mayor 200 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: Garland Lisa Monico Matthew Graves COJ refers to as the 201 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: Capital siege investigation. Then entire unit must be shut down 202 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: on January twentieth any existing indictments. They arrested a man 203 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: from Georgia on election day, a key swing state the 204 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: FBI Counter Terrorism Task for arresting a man for his 205 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: participation in January sixth, that Capital Siege Division must be 206 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: shut down immediately, and then address the cases that have 207 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: already been litigated, the convictions, the cree deals, and those 208 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 3: wishing in prison or awaiting sentencing. These judges, by the way, 209 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 3: DC are still moving these cases forwards. I heard from 210 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: a J sixer the other day who said his trial 211 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: date has just been set for January ninth. These judges 212 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: are not giving this up because they will have nothing 213 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: else to do after January twentieth. You could go to 214 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: that court tacket any day of the week. Seventy five 215 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: percent of the cases before those judges relate to January sixth. 216 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 3: I have no idea what they're going to do after 217 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: January twentieth. I do have an idea though some of 218 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: them should be impeached, some of them should retire. Quite frankly, 219 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: the entire DC federal court system should be shut down 220 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: after what they've done to these individuals broke the law, 221 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some cases by 222 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: the Appellate Court sentencing enhancements that did not match the law. 223 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: After the egregious misconduct in that courthouse, it should be 224 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: completely shut down. 225 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: Julie Kell, everybody, Julie, we appreciate, and I know the 226 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: j six defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've 227 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: done on this topic. And as we get more to 228 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: the action phase of this, where people will get the 229 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: clemency that they deserve, we will be talking to you 230 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: more about it. 231 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here. 232 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys, and they do too. Thank you 233 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: so much for covering my work. 234 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: Talk to you about the Preborn Network of clinics for 235 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: a moment. We just had a huge election win. I 236 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: know we're all feeling good. 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Jeff, what have you got for us? 277 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, love what you do. 278 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Keep up with great work, Mike, thank you. 279 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: My question is, once Trump's out of office, even though 280 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: they're the DOJ's dropping these charges, when he's out of 281 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: office this time, are they going. 282 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: To drop it in a way where it cannot be 283 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: brought again? This is a good question, a really good question. 284 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, I mean, Clay, my sense would 285 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: be that dropping the charges, does not meet does not 286 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: create immunity. The statute limitations on some of these things 287 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: you'd have to look at. But Trump may have to 288 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: pardon himself just to be on the safe side anyway, 289 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: and so maybe some other people along with him. Yeah, 290 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: that's a smart question. I would encourage him to go 291 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: ahead and do the pardon. Now, remember the pardon doesn't 292 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: pardon power dismissal of charges. We're just talking about federal 293 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: in theory. He still is going to be sentenced on 294 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: November twenty sixth for the felony charges in New York 295 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: City and that Looney been a district attorney. Fanny Willis 296 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: down in the Atlanta area still has that case. Those 297 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: are state charges. Now, my argument this is getting more complicated, 298 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: is that the state charges could be implicated by presidential 299 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: power related defenses. But we'll talk about that as that 300 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: process plays out. Smart question from him. Rapid Radios company 301 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: making modern day walkie toes that help you stay in 302 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: touch with family members, employees, and friends. These are new 303 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: technology walkie talkies that kind of allow you to connect 304 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: with people nationwide. 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Right after we went 322 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: off the air, Sean Parnell was on with us saying, hey, 323 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: things look really good. Here here's the latest. So they 324 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: are trying to fight against it. But Dave McCormick is 325 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: going to win Pennsylvania. He presently has. As they continue 326 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: to count I'm bad at Mathbuck, but about a thirty 327 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: six thousand vote lead, and that is a very comfortable 328 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: lead that he has as basically all the votes are 329 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: in huge win to flip Pennsylvania. But Arizona counting is 330 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: still going on, and Carrie Lake, with about twenty three 331 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: percent of the vote out, keeps adding on votes and 332 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: she is now only down about thirty eight thousand in Arizona, 333 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: with as many as forty four hundred thousand votes still 334 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 2: to be counted there. And Trump is winning Arizona by 335 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: a large margin. Buck, It may end up, in fact, 336 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: I think it is going to end up of the 337 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: quote unquote battleground states. Trump's now up six in Arizona 338 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: with about seventy five percent of the vote in. Now, 339 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: this should never be allowed to continue. Also, in the 340 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: Senate race in Nevada, it's been going back and forth 341 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown down about fifteen thousand votes 342 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: in that one. Trump has won both Nevada and Arizona 343 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: in the presidential race. But the fact that we're still 344 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: sitting here talking about counting going on as we head 345 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: into the weekend. According to the New York Times, only 346 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: fifty eight percent of the vote, Buck in California has 347 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: been counted fifty eight percent. We counted votes faster back 348 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 2: in the eighteen hundreds than we do now. Now with 349 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: that in mind, in the House, I want to update 350 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: you Republicans have the lead in let's see nineteen twenty, 351 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two. If I were betting right now, 352 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: I would say that Republicans are going to end up 353 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: with two hundred and twenty two or two hundred and 354 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: twenty three seats, which is very similar to the margin 355 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: right now. It takes two eighteen for House control. But 356 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: one reason we don't have that control officially decided is 357 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: because California and Arizona are dragging on their count to 358 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: such an extent that we still don't have definitive answers 359 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: from many of those House districts out there. Frankly, it's 360 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: it's unacceptable that we could be in this position, but 361 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that those 362 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: counts are still going on as we head into the weekend. 363 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: And also, ad Buck, it's not inconceivable that the election 364 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: for president could have come down to Arizona and Nevada 365 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: and we could all still be sitting here multiple days later, 366 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 2: uncertain as to who is going to be the president 367 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: of the United States. 368 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: This has to get fixed. 369 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what else has to happen for 370 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: both sides to see that this is unacceptable. You know, 371 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: California is a one party state, and that's a warning 372 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: to all of us. They took over one of the 373 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: most beautiful places in the world that have turned it 374 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: into an increasingly dysfunctional area of governance. 375 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: It's still beautiful. Look, I still love California. We've got I. 376 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: Think we have more listeners play in Texas than any 377 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: other state, but I think California is number two just 378 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: in terms of over sure we can look at this 379 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: on the digital more than we can easily on the 380 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: radio side, but we've got a lot of listeners or 381 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: in the California, California area, in the state of californ 382 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: you just because it's such a huge state and there 383 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: are a lot of Republicans there. So I don't know 384 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: what has to happen for them to see that this 385 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: is unacceptable, because it starts to look like one side 386 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: just doesn't want to fix it, and I get that. 387 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: I know people are thinking to themselves like, well, there's 388 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: one side that doesn't want voter id and there's one 389 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: side that does. 390 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: I know. 391 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: So this is how we put the pressure on me. Say, hey, guys, 392 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: Florida went from the most absurd hanging chads and dimpled 393 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 2: Uh what were they? What were the other was the 394 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: other thing? That was the chads and the something or others. 395 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: There was another term that came out right for the 396 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: Florida two times the indentations, but there was a phrase 397 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: for dimpled chads, like the what extent had did a 398 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: punch ballot count? 399 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: Like? 400 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: For people who didn't live through that, it's crazy. I 401 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: don't understand. Why can they not just every state copy 402 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: what Florida does. 403 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: I was going to ask the same question. That's what 404 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean. They Florida. It's like they know they got them. 405 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: It's rock solid done, you know, and and I and it. 406 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: They did this because of what was going on for 407 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: these other states. It just makes their it makes their 408 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: governance look like it is absurd and lacking. And it's 409 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: just not a good partisan basis. You have Democrat, Republican independent. 410 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: It's not a good look for election counting to go 411 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: on for multiple days. We need finality, we need definity 412 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: and to me, like a clear result should be something 413 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: that everybody wants as rapidly as we possibly can. And 414 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: if Florida can count in a state of twenty million 415 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: plus people, basically everybody within an hour of the polls closing, 416 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: how in the world can every other state not just 417 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: copy what Florida does. 418 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. 419 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: Maybe somebody from California GOP can let us know where 420 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: the where the roadblock is on this one, or why 421 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: why this can't seem to get fixed? So yeah, no, 422 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: I think I think McCormick's looking good. It is going 423 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: to be very tight there for Kerry Lake at the end. 424 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: I know we don't have to fit. 425 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: When do we do? 426 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 2: We know when we will know when the house is 427 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: done and over with one way or the other. 428 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: We don't, right it could? 429 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we've got it, I think if you look 430 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: at the returns and the percentages and everything else. 431 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: But I don't think it'll be till next week. At 432 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: some point, Buck, let's have some fun. I was going 433 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: to say, I know we're finishing out the week. It's 434 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: been so much fun. 435 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: I've got two different clips of incredibly arrogant libs saying 436 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: that they were going to win the first one. I 437 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: just want to play it again because I think it's 438 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: my favorite clip that we have ever played. This is 439 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: doctor Arlene telling the story of how. 440 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: She berated it again. 441 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 2: I want to play it again because in case you 442 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: missed it, and then we've got another one that's good. 443 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: This is her berating a liquor store maga clerk who 444 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: I really want to hear from. I would love if 445 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: people could track this guy down as she was buying 446 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: her champagne about how the women of America we're going 447 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: to deliver Kamala Harris a huge win. We play yesterday. 448 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: You guys have loved it. Here she is listen to 449 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: cut two. 450 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: We're closing in on almost five pm Eastern time, and 451 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: I've been trucking everything that's been going on across the 452 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 5: country today. And my most important encounter was when I 453 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: went helped to get my champagne. I was talking to 454 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 5: the guy in the store, of course, asking him did 455 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: he vote, and he said he did early voting, and 456 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 5: he asked me if I early voted, and he asked me, 457 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 5: you know why I was getting the champagne, and I said, 458 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight, and 459 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 5: he just looked at me with kind of like a 460 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 5: smirk on his face, and I said, you know she's 461 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 5: going to win this, right, And he says, oh, well, 462 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 5: it's very very close. And I said, no, it's not. 463 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: Says, well, what do you mean. 464 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 5: I said, no, it's not. The women of America are 465 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: making their voices heard. Reproductive rights is what it all 466 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: comes down to, and the women are voting in numbers 467 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 5: relative to men that are unbelievable. She's won this. And 468 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 5: I said to him, she's going to take every one 469 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 5: of the swing states plus O plus Iowa. And he said, oh, 470 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: but the numbers are so close. I said, I'm a 471 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 5: political analyst. I'm telling you right now, the numbers are there. 472 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: She's taking this election. I've said to him, you realize, 473 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 5: And he didn't tell me who he voted for, but 474 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 5: of course I knew, and I said, you do realize 475 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: you wasted your vote, right, And I didn't care. I 476 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 5: walked out with my bottle of champagne and happily walked home. 477 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: Oh why I can't get enough of this video book. 478 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: I watched it five times yesterday, just sitting laughing uproariously 479 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: at this arrogant, totally wrong woman who was lecturing a 480 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: guy working in a liquor store about how she was 481 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: a political analyst and an expert, and the women were 482 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: turning out and unbelievable numbers and they were going to 483 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: win Iowa. 484 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: They lost Iowa by fourteen. By the way, the commalos can't. 485 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: I My favorite part of that is the well I 486 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: am a political analyst, like, oh. 487 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: In that case, I guess discussion about anything. And then 488 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to play this because we talked about it yesterday. Buck. 489 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: These people who are the anti Trump Republicans. I actually 490 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: even heard Jinsaki going off on them on MSNBC, like 491 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: we give them way too much attention, we give them 492 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: way too much credence. 493 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: Nobody cares about them. 494 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think all of us were saying, Hey, the 495 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 2: idea that you want Liz Cheney on the stage and 496 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: somehow that's going to persuade people that they need to 497 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: vote for you. Here is Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project. 498 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Buck. This guy has raised. 499 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: Hundreds of millions of dollars to claim and that he 500 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: is a Republican who is opposed to Trump. Here was 501 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: what he said on election Day about how bad Trump 502 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: was going to get beat. He was wrong about all 503 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: of it. But I want you to remember this whenever 504 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: you see these guys getting trumpeted out there, as if 505 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: there's some bastions of virtue and excellence and intelligence, and 506 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: so listen to him talk about Trump getting wrecked in 507 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: the election. 508 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: I have a couple of things to think about for tomorrow. Everybody. 509 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: Number One, Trump's gonna lose. He's gonna lose badly. He's 510 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: gonna be He's gonna be wrecked. I don't know what 511 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: the Electoral College account's going to be at the end 512 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: of this, but it's gonna get loud and it's gonna 513 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: get hard for him. Their panic is extraordinary. Their events 514 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: in Georgia and North Carolina are basically about as well 515 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: attend that is a Pokemon card trading convention in ass Crack, Alabama. 516 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: This is a campaign in free fall. 517 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: It's really, really dumb. 518 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: You've got a campaign ending in chaos. You've got another 519 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: campaign that was able to deploy ninety thousand volunteers to 520 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: knock on three million doors. Guys, the better campaign is 521 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: going to win this one. 522 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, just imagine being so aggressively wrong. 523 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: Do you know about him? Do you know like his past? 524 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: I know I've known him for having Adam, I've known. 525 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: I don't know him, but like I've been aware of 526 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: him for years. I've met him once or twice. He's 527 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: a Republican Clay or. 528 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: Least I know. I know EU Redican Project people are 529 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they flipped. 530 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, he says he's a Republican, And it's 531 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: not possible to be more wrong than that, and to 532 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: be so smug. I mean, look, we took a little 533 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: risk in being so definitive that Trump was gonna win 534 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: the election. I mean, if we had been wrong, we 535 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: would have taken our lumps, you know. But we were right, 536 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And you know, people like 537 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: this and and that political analyst lady, I'm a political analyst. 538 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: Uh they I'm sorry, man, you couldn't if we held 539 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: the contest for the most annoying Kamala voter in the country, 540 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: they couldn't beat that woman. And she she is number one. Perfect, 541 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: She is the champion. Give her the belt. She's perfect. 542 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: And look, we were hyper rational on this show. We 543 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: looked at all the early voting numbers, I went into 544 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: them all the time, analyze them, and we nailed it. 545 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: We got every single thing right. There were lots of 546 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: signs out there, and I get it was close. It 547 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: was It's a few hundred thousand votes that can determine 548 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: your victory or defeat. I mean, that's the America we 549 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: live in right now. But to think that they were 550 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: gonna win Iowa, I mean, you have to be utterly 551 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: delusional to it. Bought into that an Seltzer poll in Iowa. 552 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: And even for her like her career is over, how 553 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: could you ever trust somebody again based on being that 554 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: utterly wrong. That's one of the things that I think 555 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: is maybe the lesson for me. MSNBC buck has been 556 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: wrong on everything Russia, collusion, masking, COVID shots, Trump, going 557 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: to jail. I mean, you can run through basically every 558 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: major issue that has happened in the last seven or 559 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: eight years, by and large, and they've been wrong on 560 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: all of it. Why do people keep showing up and 561 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: watching a program where they're being told things that they 562 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: are going to be objectively wrong. I'm curious whether MSNBC's 563 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: ratings will actually fall because how could you trust those 564 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: people when they told you, Oh, Kamala is running a 565 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: great campaign. Joe Biden's fit as sharp as attack behind 566 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: closed doors. They lied to you for years, regardless of 567 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: what your politics are, and you're gonna keep showing up 568 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: and letting them continue. 569 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: To lie to you. 570 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: I just if you find out that you've been lied to, 571 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: you should change the media. I think that you consume. 572 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: I mean that seems like a rational thing to me, 573 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: and I think that's one reason the mainstream quote unquote 574 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: mainstream media is collapsing to such an extent. 575 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: We almost won. 576 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: Buck prizepicks, dot Com Clay fifty dollars, Dereck Henry didn't 577 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: get enough yards for us, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Lamar Jackson. 578 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: We were right on all three of those. We were 579 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: about twenty yards off from a ten to one payout. 580 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Could have been a perfect week. Trump wins and we 581 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: went on the ten to one. But you can still 582 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: have a lot of fun. If you're a football fan, 583 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: maybe you want to kick back, have a few beers 584 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: this weekend, watch some games. I know I'm gonna be 585 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: doing that. No political ads going on. 586 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: We won. 587 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: We are the dominant side. We are the victorious one. 588 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you can add some victories. At Price Picks. You 589 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 2: get fifty dollars when you play five dollars. 590 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Easy. All you gotta do is pick more. 591 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: Or less on every athlete out there, any sport, football, basketball, baseball, 592 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: whatever you love, soccer. You can get your action there. 593 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: Prize picks dot com. My name Clay downloaded. I'll try 594 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: another week with another pick next week. Prize picks dot Com, 595 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: my name Clay. We are closing up shop here on 596 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck before we send you off for the weekend, 597 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: want to remind you for your listening enjoyment. There is 598 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: no better place to go on demand than the Clay 599 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: and Buck podcast network. Okay, I gotta just make sure 600 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: I get them all in here. Sean Parnell, Carol Marquitz, 601 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: Tutor Dixon, Lisa booth Am, I missing anybody, Buck Brief, 602 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: Mary Katnham, Thank you. I know I'm trying to do 603 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: them all off the top of my head. Great things, 604 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: great hosts, great people. Listen to over the weekend. Subscribe 605 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: to Clay and Buck Networth will all be in your 606 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: feed the iHeart app, which is free, so as you're 607 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: driving to wherever you're going to celebrate this weekend, and please, 608 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 2: I really mean this. It is actually something I learned 609 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: from my dad. He always just said, celebrate good moments, 610 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: take the time, do something that you will. You know 611 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 2: that allows you to associate the good thing that's happened 612 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 2: with something that you enjoyed, with something that was meaningful 613 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: with family. You know that stuff matters. It's been a 614 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: great week for America. Go do something You'll be like, 615 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: you know how I celebrated the restoration of America that 616 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: election week I did. And it's whatever, you know, Like 617 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: I said, go go go bass fishing, go bowling, go 618 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: to the big football game in your area. Whatever it is. 619 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: Twenty what do you doing this weekend to celebrate? You're 620 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: going to go shooting guns? Yeah, shooting guns with my brother. Yeah. 621 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 2: I've got the twentieth law school reunion weekend at Vanderbilt University, 622 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: So I've got a bunch of friends that are in 623 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 2: town for that. I'm gonna be doing that Friday and Saturday. 624 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna run by and try to watch 625 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: South Carolina Vanderbilt. I'm in town this weekend. That's the 626 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: homecoming game. Vanderbilt had a pretty good football team so 627 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: far this year. So my three favorite years in terms 628 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: of just sheer fun or the three years I spent 629 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: at Vanderbilt Law School. So I'm looking forward to seeing 630 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: everybody there, even though some of those people are gonna 631 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: be like, I can't pull it. Lot of lawyers vote 632 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: for kamalas so kind of. I had a friend tell 633 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: me perct a very funny, sorry, a very funny story 634 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: where he said that he got a call from an 635 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: old colleague, a woman, and she's like on election day 636 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: and he worked with her for years, and he goes 637 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: and she goes, are we gonna. 638 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: Pull it out? You know, like, are we gonna pull 639 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: this off? And he didn't know. 640 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: Which side, and he's like, I was trying to dance around. 641 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: Sure enough. 642 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 2: She was a big time Kamalist, but he was trying 643 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: to play that, you know what I mean, Like, I mean, yeah, 644 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna pull it off. 645 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: Like what do you think? 646 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: You know? You know? 647 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: So, yeah, there you go. Maybe next week we can 648 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: have some fun. Buck. 649 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: I bet some of our listeners did have to pretend 650 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: that they didn't vote Trump. I think there are some 651 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: of you out there should take some work. Oh yeah, 652 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: at work, maybe in relationship you know what, let's put 653 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: this out also for VIPs and talkback clips. If you've 654 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: had to pretend for the sake of peace and harmony 655 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: in your workplace, in your home, whatever that you voted 656 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: not Trump, we want to email us vip or talk. 657 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: Back on the iHeart app. 658 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: And some of you may be thinking about that on 659 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving already. 660 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: That'll be fun. 661 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: Flat Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.