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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cavino and

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Speaker 1: Rich podcast.

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Speaker 5: I just looked at the calendar, Monci, and you know what,

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Speaker 5: I realized.

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Speaker 6: It's Friday.

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Speaker 5: It's Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday. Now, the guys probably did

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Speaker 5: that eight hours earlier when they are in for Dan

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Speaker 5: Patrick here on Fox Sports Radio. But it is Moncey

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Speaker 5: Belanos and myself Dan Buyer in for Cavino and Rich today.

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Speaker 5: There is no Dandy g There isn't Jason s Jason Stewart, Hello, everybody,

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Speaker 5: Let's call him Gosh, Chris. You've been to so many places,

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Speaker 5: lived in so many places. I feel like Toledo Chris

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Speaker 5: could be a way that we could call you instead

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Speaker 5: of Iowa Sam. Is that good?

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Speaker 1: I think else calls me usc Chres as well.

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Speaker 5: Oh see a lot of different a lot of different names,

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Speaker 5: just like New York and Philly Sam, Isaac lohenkron is

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Speaker 5: at the news desk. What's going on, Isaac on Airbnb?

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Speaker 5: Love it w Elijah and Sager doing their stuff on

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Speaker 5: the video. So glad to have you with us, Bo

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Speaker 5: Benson and Ryan Ryan Berschinger in the back doing all

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Speaker 5: of the work that we need as well. Welcome in.

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Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Radios, Cavino and Rich here on

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Speaker 5: a Friday. We already did that day one hundred and

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Speaker 5: twenty seconds ago.

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Speaker 6: I think I'm just too excited. Okay, you can don't

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Speaker 6: take away.

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Speaker 5: You're only people more excited than you are those in

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Speaker 5: ann Arbor. And I'll tell you what the guts now,

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Speaker 5: the guts of these people as this story continues to develop,

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Speaker 5: even when you think it's over, Michigan handed down their

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Speaker 5: NC double A sanctions today and now we're getting word.

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Speaker 5: Isaac reported it that from I'm not sure who broke

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Speaker 5: it first, that Michigan is appealing the penalties handed down

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Speaker 5: by the NC double A. Man.

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Speaker 6: The audacity your appeal. You know you appeal something when

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Speaker 6: you when you didn't do it. Isn't that the way

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Speaker 6: it's supposed to go. I'm appealing something because you have

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Speaker 6: false me, falsely accused me of something. But we know

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Speaker 6: that they cheated. We know the KGB operation, we know that,

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Speaker 6: and now you're gonna appeal.

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Speaker 5: After trying to cover up all of the evidence. Yes,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: The Wolverine fan base is probably like, yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 6: We're gonna appeal, that's right, and you know what, they're

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Speaker 6: not gonna find us anyway.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what do they have to lose. They've already got off,

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Speaker 5: you know, basically not entirely scott free, but feeling pretty

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Speaker 5: much pretty close. There's gonna be some stuff taken out

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Speaker 5: of their wallet, but not the punishment that that few

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Speaker 5: of us, a few of us wanted Michigan to receive,

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Speaker 5: and now they're appealing it. There is something with there

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Speaker 5: is there's something with being falsely accused of something. Then

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Speaker 5: there's the difference between that and then being not exonerated,

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Speaker 5: that we're weighing here. Like you, I'm sorry, there's not

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Speaker 5: a Michigan fan around that can say that we didn't

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Speaker 5: do anything. And not only did they not do anything,

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Speaker 5: they didn't do anything. On multiple occasions. Mazi mentions the

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Speaker 5: KGB portion of it, which is I just love that,

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, which was part of the scheme that they

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Speaker 5: stealing scandal. This was the message from the Chief hearing

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Speaker 5: Officer for the NCAA Committee on Infractions said on the scandal,

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Speaker 5: and I'm going to read this quote the true quote.

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Speaker 5: The true scope and scale of the scheme, including the

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Speaker 5: competitive advantage it afforded, will never be fully known due

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Speaker 5: to individuals intentional destruction and withholding of materials and information.

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Speaker 5: But the intent was clear to gain a substantial competitive advantage.

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Speaker 5: You don't put together a network of individuals called the

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Speaker 5: a substantial competitive advantage. The words are much stronger than

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Speaker 5: the punishment. Yeah, and what was ultimately handed down. But

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Speaker 5: fans are skipping in the streets of ann Arbor, probably

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Speaker 5: enjoying their wonderful three day weekend up in the up

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Speaker 5: It's just it's in their faces. It's to everybody else's

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Speaker 5: is like watch this now, now watch what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 5: We got away with all this other stuff. Now we're

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Speaker 5: actually gonna try to appeal it and get less of

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Speaker 6: I know, it's really rich. You get a slap on

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Speaker 6: That's what they're saying. I can't. I cannot believe they're

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Speaker 5: And because they can probably that's it's probably the reason why.

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Speaker 5: And then there really aren't any direct effects to hinder

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Speaker 5: this Michigan football team excepttion you run more getting a

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Speaker 5: game suspension or a couple of game suspension. So those

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Speaker 5: that pales in comparison to what it could have been

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Speaker 5: But it does provide a bigger picture. I just I

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Speaker 5: didn't I didn't know that. I wasn't I wasn't sure

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Speaker 5: I just don't think that getting away with the easier

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you're one hundred percent right. But the thing

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Speaker 6: we are invincible. Yes, that is how I would feel

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to like take it into real world terms

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Speaker 5: this is the jubilee that you would get for knowing

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Speaker 5: Like there's they don't feel guilty about this. This isn't

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Speaker 5: this is this is none of that. This is embezzling

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like they're justifying it in their own way,

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Speaker 6: a technicality. This is we didn't break any rules. Get

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Speaker 5: Jason Stewart's our executive producer. I got a great example.

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Speaker 7: This is a real happy one for our Cavino and

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Speaker 7: You talk about the punishment coming up way short of

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Speaker 7: never say that you were innocent and everyone knows you

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Speaker 5: P Diddy, yes or no?

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Speaker 6: I hear what you where you're trying to go with it?

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Speaker 7: It seemed like a consensus at least from the legal community,

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Speaker 5: What would O J be be? I mean, it is

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Speaker 5: are all these are all trials that that we're going

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Speaker 5: And that's where I feel like like Michigan is of

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Speaker 5: with it. That's what I feel happened with Michigan. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's what I feel like, is the equivalent not being

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Speaker 5: anything wrong, Trust me, I didn't. There was no traffic

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Speaker 5: years later, I'm still mad about it, but that's what

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Speaker 5: I feel like, There's there's something to it, as opposed

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Speaker 6: We were just tweeted at by Moss Mace Underscore seventy eight.

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Speaker 6: He tweeted all of us basically saying that this appeal

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Speaker 6: is purely performative. If they don't appeal, it's them saying, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yes, I I'm a good point, yes I, But I

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Speaker 5: don't think that they're they're innocent. Like Connor Stallions did come,

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Speaker 5: you know, cheaters never win in the whole deal. But

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Speaker 5: there was conversations that Connor Stallions did have with the

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Speaker 5: what his doings were, so you knew that there was

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Speaker 5: some wrongdoing. But as Michigan as a whole, I think

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's just unbelievable though that this is it

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Speaker 7: There's degrees of karma, and I think that maybe you

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, ah slap on the wrist.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And then it happened on a Friday. So this

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Speaker 5: Yes, it works, It really does.

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Speaker 6: Every time I hear them say that, I'm like, you

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Speaker 5: You know what else works?

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Speaker 5: Putting Taylor Swift on a podcast. That's right because it

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Speaker 6: All those people that were hate watching must have been

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Speaker 5: thought that those two were on the same field. What

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00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 5: should be noted Jared Golf almost did have to play

437
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 5: defense for the Lions last year because everybody was hurt.

438
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 5: Chris Prophet, I think you can attest to that. A pain,

439
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 5: so much pain. He was like dB fourteen on the team.

440
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Speaker 1: And I do I do wonder if she takes away

441
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Speaker 1: from like how we talk about all these games. When

442
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Speaker 1: you see a big you know, here's the game coming

443
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: up on Amazon or on Fox. It's Jared Goff and

444
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Speaker 1: the Lions acon take on Josh Allen and the Bills.

445
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Speaker 1: It makes it sound once again, I have this conversation

446
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Speaker 1: with people all the time. It makes it sound like

447
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: when we say these quarterbacks are facing each other, they're

448
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: actually facing each other. Yeah, you're absolutely they totally get

449
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: why someone like that would would take that.

450
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Speaker 5: I would also say that if you just never watch football,

451
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: basketball is more of a sport that is commonly known.

452
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Speaker 5: So Lebron James and Steph Curry are on the court

453
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Speaker 5: at the same time. To Christ's point, you're seeing Lebron

454
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Speaker 5: James and Steph Curry head to head in the NBA Finals,

455
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Speaker 5: and so you would think like, oh, that's why they

456
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Speaker 5: would do it, or that sport does it that way,

457
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Speaker 5: so why wouldn't football also do it that way?

458
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and even in basketball, you could just watch it

459
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Speaker 6: and kind of understand what's happening. If you watch football

460
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Speaker 6: and you have never watched it is it is hard

461
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Speaker 6: to keep up. If you don't know football. It is

462
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Speaker 6: hard to keep up and watch it. You don't know basketball.

463
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Speaker 6: You can tune in and be like, Okay, I get

464
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Speaker 6: what's going on. Basketball has to go in the hoop

465
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Speaker 6: gay five on five.

466
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Speaker 5: It's not like that, yes, because in football you can

467
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 5: kick the ball from the same spot and two different

468
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 5: situations and it's different points exactly. So an extra point

469
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Speaker 5: and a thirty three yard field goal are the same distance.

470
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Speaker 5: And if you're trying to learn, that makes it very

471
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Speaker 5: very difficult. At least in the NBA. You see the

472
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Speaker 5: line on the floor where you're like, this is two,

473
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Speaker 5: that is three.

474
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Speaker 6: And it doesn't change.

475
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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, but for whatever reason, from the same exact

476
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 5: spot in football, if you don't understand the point after attempt,

477
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 5: it would be or they're going for two here, well

478
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Speaker 5: why don't they get six? Well they just got six?

479
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Speaker 5: Well why can't you get six again, Like, I feel

480
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 5: like those are conversations that would happen in a living

481
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Speaker 5: room totally. I also feel that there's something to this

482
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 5: is we're now forty eight hours out something that happened

483
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 5: earlier in the year not apples to apples, but the

484
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 5: halftime show with Kendrick Lamar there there was a different

485
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Speaker 5: like being there live, being at the Super Bowl, as

486
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 5: fortunate as a was, you have a different experience for

487
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 5: what is a made for TV concert, But it was

488
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Speaker 5: a concert that really ended up thriving because of social

489
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 5: media afterwards. We were talking about it for a week

490
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: or two, and I feel like when you look at

491
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Speaker 5: something like this again, it's not apples to apples. I

492
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 5: don't know if we're going to be talking about this

493
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 5: two weeks from now, but it's got so much of

494
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Speaker 5: a longer shelf life than just when it originally appeared.

495
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Speaker 5: And maybe that's how things are nowadays, but I feel

496
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Speaker 5: like there's just some similarities with that performance that we

497
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Speaker 5: had in February to what this episode was.

498
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Speaker 6: You're right on the money. I agree with you. We

499
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 6: were talking about that show for so long after the fact.

500
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Speaker 6: Didn't think we would be, but we were this is

501
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 6: still being talked about, and it might still be talked

502
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Speaker 6: about in a week. Dan, that's how big it was.

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Speaker 5: You watched it live. I watched it lot show you

504
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 5: didn't have to wait for people that don't. You can

505
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 5: still add to those numbers. Jason Stewart and I both

506
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Speaker 5: watched it. You watch it on YouTube? Is that where

507
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Speaker 5: you also watched it?

508
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Speaker 7: Jay, I caught some of it on YouTube and I've

509
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 7: just been watching a little equlips.

510
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, yeah, it's.

511
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Speaker 6: You're going to say, you guys watched it together, like

512
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 6: you gathered, grabbed some food.

513
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Speaker 7: Watch, we shared the actual iPod. We we had to

514
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 7: get really close, precious iPad iPod. Can I give you

515
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 7: my quick takeaways because in a lot of ways, I

516
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 7: come at this very from the opposite of what Mancy

517
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 7: comes at it. She's a super fan, as are millions

518
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 7: of people. I would argue millions of teenage girls. But

519
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 7: you guys have talked me off that wedge. I won't

520
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 7: sell that.

521
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Speaker 6: I am so close to a teenage girl though.

522
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Speaker 7: And I'm guessing as a teenage girl you liked her.

523
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Speaker 6: Maybe yes, no, yeah, we I am the same age

524
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Speaker 6: as as Taylor Sweat.

525
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Speaker 7: So yes, So I I was. I was captivated by

526
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Speaker 7: how they interacted. Yes, and I was the one early

527
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 7: I was the old curmudgeon saying this was fake. It

528
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 7: was a huge publicity stunt. But I apologize to you

529
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Speaker 7: about six months in and I will. But I was

530
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 7: captivated about how they interact. They're like giddy teenagers. They're

531
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Speaker 7: both in their thirties, They've both had many relationships, but

532
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Speaker 7: the handholding thing and just the way that they address

533
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 7: each other, there's still very much in seemingly that honeymoon

534
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 7: phase that all of us have been in the first

535
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Speaker 7: few months totally, but they're what eighteen months in or

536
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 7: whatever it's been. It's like to me, that's what first

537
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 7: caught hold. And then just how engaged she is and

538
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 7: what he's passionate about. And I know that he's engaged

539
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Speaker 7: with what she's passionate about. He knows her music, he

540
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 7: seems to like her music, which I can't I can't get.

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Speaker 7: So those were kind of my takeaways, like just how

542
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 7: engaging both of them in are in each other's lives

543
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 7: and how they they deal with each other. Nobody knows

544
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Speaker 7: if it's going to last, but hope that it does.

545
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 7: But you hope that it does people change.

546
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Speaker 5: What I will say is well to piggyback off of

547
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: that is and I look at it from a weird way.

548
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: I think that that people have a lot of insecurities.

549
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 5: And so if I was dating Taylor Swift and she

550
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 5: had dated famous guys, well you know John Mayer, Yeah,

551
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 5: you know Jake Jillenhall, wasn't he another one like this?

552
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 5: Like there are others like that takes like you have

553
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 5: to have confidence in yourself if you're Travis Kelcey. But

554
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: also if you were insecure, you would maybe hold that

555
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 5: unfortunately against the other person, you would hold that against

556
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift. Well, Taylor Swift just has to say you

557
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: had a dating show or you just dated all of

558
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: these other different you know, like women, she could have

559
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: that sort of insecurity. They don't have that. That's not

560
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: how they live, that's not who they are. And I

561
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: felt that that, like that's another reason why it works.

562
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 5: They're secure in who they are. They don't worried about this,

563
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: worried about that, or could do this or could do that.

564
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Speaker 5: They also seem to be living in the present.

565
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I feel like with with Taylor Swift, you know,

566
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 6: there's rumors or store that Beyonce, if you ever Beyonce

567
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: doesn't say a lot. She like doesn't do a lot

568
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 6: of interviews. She doesn't just go out there and talk,

569
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Speaker 6: and that's because they say they don't want her to,

570
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 6: because they don't trust what she may say. I was

571
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 6: surprised at how comfortable Taylor Swift was in this podcast

572
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 6: for talking about everything, because you could argue that it

573
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 6: was a bit scripted, but it didn't feel that way.

574
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 6: If it was, it was nice to see her. And

575
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Speaker 6: she also is very self deprecating, which you don't hear

576
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 6: her say that a lot. When when Travis Kelce was

577
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 6: like you're an athlete, She's like, I am not an athlete.

578
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 6: She's like, no, what are you talking about? Like training

579
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Speaker 6: for this, and she's like, you're so sweet when she

580
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 6: even like grabbed his face, so she's like, I am

581
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 6: not an athlete. There was just so many sides I

582
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 6: feel like of Taylor Swift that we never get to see.

583
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Speaker 6: Travis Kelce. We get to see all sides of it.

584
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Speaker 6: He was on a reality TV show. This was just

585
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 6: a different side even of Travis Kelce, but more of

586
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 6: all the different sides of Taylor Swift that you don't

587
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Speaker 6: get to.

588
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 7: See what you're talking about. Is like it was just

589
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 7: a genuine nature to their interaction.

590
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 6: It seems so genuine the whole thing.

591
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Speaker 7: I am such a skeptic that my BS meter is

592
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 7: always on and I would love to tell you that

593
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 7: there was a lot of BS meter going off and

594
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Speaker 7: there wasn't really just a genuine interaction.

595
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Speaker 5: There was a little for me, But I don't want

596
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: that to make it seem like it's a negative thing.

597
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: Like in the back of my mind, I'm like, she's

598
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 5: a performer. She gets it like when you're when you're

599
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: in the biz, you know when you have to turn

600
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Speaker 5: it on, and I feel like she knows how to

601
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: turn it on. There were no yes, no questions. She

602
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 5: knew the format, she knew to fill, she knew those things.

603
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 5: It's also a safe place where you're not guarded and

604
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: you feel like you were going to be asked something

605
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Speaker 5: that is uncomfortable, so you can say what you say

606
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 5: and know that you're not going to get any pushback

607
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 5: on it. But I did. I didn't think it was fake.

608
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Speaker 5: I just thought, Okay, there's certain things that are being

609
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 5: talked about here and done in a certain way because

610
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Speaker 5: of the way the surrounding people.

611
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Speaker 6: Are totally the point of this was to promote her

612
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 6: new album, so you knew, yes, that it was going

613
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 6: to be you know, curated for that. But even even

614
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 6: with that, Dan, even though she is a performer, this

615
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 6: was I guess the performance, but it was it just

616
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Speaker 6: I'm with Jason. It was so just genuine.

617
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 7: I think both Dan an art could be right because

618
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 7: I think Dan, you're talking about the way she presented

619
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Speaker 7: in her answers, I'm talking about their actual interaction. Just

620
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 7: to just looking at both of them, I was discernibly

621
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Speaker 7: looking at how they interact and it just there was

622
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Speaker 7: no bs there that it was interesting.

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Speaker 5: I felt he was the third wheel. I've said that.

624
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: I felt like her and Jason had a really good

625
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: chemistry going back and forth. And Travis is usually the

626
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 5: one talking to Jason, and so now he isn't. So

627
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 5: he's just kind of standing by, trying to say his

628
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 5: stuff in a certain way, and maybe he's not going

629
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: to use the language that he and his brother normally

630
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 5: do because his girlfriend is sitting there. But I felt

631
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Speaker 5: like I actually felt like he was the third wheel

632
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: a little bit in terms of the interactions because he

633
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: just wasn't familiar in that scenario.

634
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Speaker 6: He was kind of like the third wheel, which makes

635
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 6: it even better if you think about it. He let

636
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Speaker 6: her just shine.

637
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Speaker 5: Okay, I did have a mountain dew today and I

641
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 5: was eating cold pizza, but I also brought a yogurt

642
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: to work good for you Friday. Then I opened the

643
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 5: lid and it splattered all over my black shirt because

644
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 5: I thought I was going to a funeral today. With

645
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 5: Michigan's punishments handed down, it was anything but and me

646
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 5: getting yogurt all over my sleeve and whatnot is a

647
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: perfect description of how it felt when those NCAA punishments

648
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: came down. But Moncey, Yes, that's a good that's a

649
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 5: good point to the past. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're

650
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 5: gonna move on from it because it's Friday. Here on

651
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Speaker 5: and Rich Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday Friday, rocking out

652
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Speaker 5: with Isaac Glowing Crowd, Jason Stewart, Crisperfats, She Is Mancy Belaanio.

653
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 5: So I'm on buyer in for Cavino and Rich. It's

654
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 5: been quite the week. It wasn't just Michigan getting their

655
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 5: penalties today. It was, as we talked about Taylor Swift

656
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: on the New Heights podcast, a lot's been going on

657
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: as football is around the corner. A week from tomorrow,

658
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 5: week zero of the NFL of the college football season.

659
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 5: Excuse me, will start no preseason games last night. That

660
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 5: was a little different, not having it on a on

661
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: a Thursday and week two of the NFL preseason. But

662
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 5: we get games tonight, so we are we are a

663
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 5: fast approaching football season. And one football fan is not

664
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 5: happy with his current team. This also happened earlier this week,

665
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 5: but it opens up a bigger question, and this is

666
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: where Moncey and I and the crew want your inputs.

667
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 5: All right, eight seven to seven, nine to nine on

668
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 5: Fox eight seven seven nine nine six six three six'.

669
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Speaker 5: Nine you can Find moncy ON x At Monzy. Blanos

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00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 5: you can find me ON x At Dan byer On.

671
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: Fox we're talking about. Bandwagons that's what we're talking. About

672
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 5: ONE a list movie star said earlier this, week in

673
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 5: so many, words he is not a bandwagon. Fan but

674
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: that wasn't his. Point his point was he's fed up

675
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 5: with his current. Team that star Is Denzel. Washington his,

676
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: team the one with the star on the, helmet The Dallas.

677
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 5: Cowboys i've been A cowboy fan since the.

678
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 10: Sixties he's making it hard for me not to be

679
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 10: a fan Because i'm still A cowboy. Fan i'm still

680
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 10: gonna have the star on the side of the.

681
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: Hat but he ain't thinking about.

682
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 6: Us he's thinking about his.

683
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 5: Pocket. OKAY i, Mean Jerry john on the, Phone get

684
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: him on the. Phone what does he? Say you tell,

685
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: me what does he? Say he says that he's getting

686
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 5: ri My.

687
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 10: Cowboys we had the most successful brand in, sports you.

688
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 5: KNOW i mean in terms of what. Championship, no of

689
00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 5: course he can't.

690
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 10: HIP i don't talking about, recognition, notoriety dollars and cents and.

691
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 5: Sports but in the, end one of The yankee you.

692
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 10: Haven't been in AN nfc championship game Or Super bowl

693
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 10: in thirty. Years thirty, years, okay and for some, reason

694
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 10: he's just. Stubborn, man he just and then you got

695
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 10: his son sitting there talking About Michael paus' is.

696
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 5: Like, hey he got to want to sign a.

697
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 10: Contract what makes no, sense, Guys but you know.

698
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: This there's box office and It's. Oscars jerry been a,

699
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 5: while he ain't been to the. Show you wouldn't. Know oh,

700
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: geez dead cell serious. Jabs he also threw jabs at

701
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 5: all of us who haven't played sports in our, lives

702
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: in our talking. HEADS i don't know if we have that,

703
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 5: audio but we'll play it later if it is. NECESSARY

704
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: i took a lot from That. Manci but Like covino

705
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: And rich like to, do they like to read between the.

706
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 5: Lines they like to find that nugget in. There AND

707
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: i HOPE i could do the guys justice because there

708
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: was something That Denzel washington said that just had me

709
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 5: scratching my. Head when he, Goes i've been A cowboys

710
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 5: fan since the nineteen, sixties and that sounds. Great denzel

711
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: is old enough to remember some of the nineteen. Sixties

712
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 5: i'm not calling them. All i'm just saying the facts are. Facts,

713
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 5: however WHAT i started to question, then was he really

714
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 5: a fan of The cowboys in the nineteen. Sixties denzel

715
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 5: is seventy years. Old he was born in nineteen fifty.

716
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 5: Four The Dallas cowboys came into THE nfl in nineteen.

717
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 5: Sixty i'm guessing at five or six years of. Age

718
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: he doesn't remember when The cowboys entered THE. Nfl so

719
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 5: when they enter THE, nfl they aren't The cowboys. Anyway

720
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: they're just a new team in THE nfl that's In.

721
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: Dallas but they start winning games in the mid. Sixties

722
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: they play The Ice bowl against The packers in the late.

723
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 5: Sixties this is When denzel would be twelve or. Thirteen

724
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 5: at a lot of, point this is where we get

725
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: our fandom as, kids maybe even. Earlier but then there's

726
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: also a, Point, manzie where you get to maybe, eighteen

727
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: nineteen and, twenty and the teams you liked as a

728
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 5: kid just aren't the teams you're gonna like as an.

729
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 5: Adult you liked maybe one for the, uniforms or you

730
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: like that, player but as you grow, older you kind

731
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: of settle into your. Fandom we all have different ways

732
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 5: of doing. So The cowboys heydays prior to their stint

733
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: in the nineteen nineties was the nineteen. Seventies so Is

734
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: Denzel washington lying to us that he was actually a

735
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 5: fan of The cowboys in the, sixties where there doesn't

736
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: seem any reason to be a. Fan and if you've

737
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 5: liked The cowboys for as long as he has, has

738
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: are you? Bandwagon if you like them because they were

739
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: winning in the nineteen. Seventies this is the. DILEMMA i

740
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 5: think that there are so many levels of fandom and

741
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: trying to figure out who your favorites. Are Because denzel

742
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 5: was born In New, york we see him At laker

743
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: games AND i just find out this week that he

744
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: was A cowboys. Fan i've seen him His wikipedia PICTURE

745
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: i think has him been A yankees. Cap so there's

746
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 5: a lot of top level teams. There BUT i want

747
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 5: to talk about bandwagon and His Denzel washington possibly bandwagon

748
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 5: because he started liking The cowboys when they were Winning Super.

749
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 6: Bowl, absolutely where has this information been for? Years you

750
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 6: were born In New york in the, sixties you were

751
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 6: a young, kid and The giants have been Around New.

752
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 6: York giants have been around a long, time.

753
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 5: Right, yes, yeah like he had at no longer even.

754
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 6: Right like he had a team to follow and root.

755
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 6: For but you now in twenty twenty, five want to

756
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 6: mention that you've been A cowboys fan since the? Sixties

757
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 6: all gay?

758
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 5: Themself, YEAH i JUST i didn't like that's. CUTE i

759
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: couldn't buy. It there's things that you, say like some

760
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 5: sports fans will try to justify their fandom and give

761
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: a reason. WHY i don't think you necessarily always have

762
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 5: to do. SO i have random, teams couple of random,

763
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 5: teams teams that mean the most to. Me i've liked

764
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: those teams most of my. Life and WHEN i say,

765
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 5: most it's because at two and, THREE i didn't know

766
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 5: who The Seattle seahawks were at that. Point but WHEN

767
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 5: i was seven and got to meet The, seahawks Meet

768
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 5: seahawks players in nineteen eighty, four changed my. Perspective and

769
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: WHEN i people ask, me, like you grew up In,

770
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 5: wisconsin you're a how are you not A packers? Fan

771
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 5: AND i, SAY i got to meet the team because

772
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 5: their quarterback at the time was From. Wisconsin family friend

773
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: knew my mom a friend of the family and got

774
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 5: us tickets to the game In milwaukee and we got

775
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 5: to see The seahawks meet The seahawks. Afterwards from then,

776
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 5: on it's all it's been at the about The. Seahawks

777
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: that's the furthest thing From vandwagon because The seahawks weren't actually, good,

778
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: good good up Until Mike homgren took them, over and

779
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: then The pete carroll eras when they took Off. Monci

780
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 5: so there's a lot of different like ways about, this

781
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: but in my specific, instance as being A seahawks fan

782
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 5: for so, LONG i look at people's fandoms all the,

783
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 5: time and so like when you're talking About, denzel, like all,

784
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 5: right if you liked them when they were, winning is

785
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 5: that bandwagon even if they've been miserable for thirty.

786
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 6: Years, yes that was a bandwagon. Move AND i feel

787
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 6: like there's nothing wrong with, that but it is just

788
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 6: puts into perspective of when you became that. FAN i

789
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 6: grew up being A clippers, Fan LIKE i was not

790
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 6: allowed to root for anybody else besides The, clippers, right

791
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 6: and so whenever somebody's, like oh, Yeah i'm A clippers,

792
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 6: fan you, know it's, like all, right what jersey do you?

793
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 6: Have Kawhi, leonard that's not you jumped on the. Bandwagon

794
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 6: that's not a Real clipper. Fan and we have a

795
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 6: lot of. Those but it's like you weren't there When

796
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 6: elton brand was there Or Quentin richardson or you, know

797
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 6: like that's WHAT i remember back in my day and.

798
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 6: Nowadays like a team that's perfect is when you meet

799
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: someone and they're, Like i'm A chiefs. Fan i'm, like, yeah,

800
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 6: okay since when five years? Ago yeah, Okay. Yeah there's

801
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 6: few teams where it's like you definitely probably jumped on the.

802
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 6: BANDWAGON i have a, Friend, jacob who is From, missouri

803
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 6: From Kansas, city and so WHEN i found out he

804
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 6: was A chiefs fan because he lives, HERE i was,

805
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 6: like and he's, like, No i'm from. There i've been

806
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 6: one my whole. Life half of these people are. BANDWAGONERS

807
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 6: i jumped on The chiefs ever since we started. Winning

808
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 6: there's certain teams that they.

809
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 5: Have A, YES i understand that The chiefs fandom can take,

810
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 5: off AND i think there's a lot of young fans

811
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 5: that Are chiefs fans right. Now Taylor swift is probably

812
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: bringing in a whole new audience of. Fans there was

813
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 5: a guy that lived in an apartment complex that we lived,

814
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: in probably a decade or so, ago and he was

815
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: A chiefs fan where he had the license PLATE. Frameka

816
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: So i'm like all, right and THEN i would see

817
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: him on Certain sundays he'd be in His chief's. Gear

818
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: BUT i can't say THAT i personally knew or saw

819
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 5: A chiefs fan and they were kind of, good, yeah,

820
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 5: right like it Was Alex smith. Good this is before

821
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 5: The mahomes, Takeoff so there's that portion of. It you're

822
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: much more harder On denzel THAN i, am BECAUSE i

823
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 5: do think if you're still sticking with them through thirty

824
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 5: years of, sorrow that there's got to be some equity

825
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 5: built into.

826
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 6: THAT i GUESS i just don't believe that he's been

827
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 6: dealing with sorrow for thirty. YEARS i feel like he

828
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 6: was a fan and then stopped being a, fan and

829
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 6: now he's back on being a fan and wants to

830
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 6: talk about how crappy his team. Is BUT i feel

831
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 6: like there was a year's, Right like you weren't even

832
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 6: thinking about The, cowboys, right you know that's not like you,

833
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 6: said we would have seen pictures on social media or.

834
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 6: Something this is the first time we've heard of.

835
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 5: This isaac Lohncrodez, Here Chris, Purfett Jason stewart all hanging out,

836
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 5: again your phone calls eight, seven, seven nine nine On?

837
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: Fox where do you weigh? In and Is Denzel washington

838
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 5: A bandwagon? Fan if he started to like The cowboys

839
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: when they were. WINNING i just don't believe it's. STORY

840
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: i think it's easy to SAY i was a fan

841
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: of the. Sixties there would be no reason for him

842
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 5: to be a fan at that. Point they were just

843
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: new to the. League it just that doesn't make sense

844
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 5: unless there was a. REASON i think he became a

845
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 5: fan of the, seventies which helps his argument if he

846
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 5: says that he's a fan from the. Sixties Jason stewart

847
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 5: bandwagon is the. Topic, yeah, no, no that was WHERE

848
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: i was going to.

849
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 7: Go SO i always equate like the invent of, television

850
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 7: or at least how when TVs were like mass consumed

851
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 7: with the nineteen sixty presidential, debate remember The Nixon kennedy

852
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 7: thing all. That so TVs weren't really around in a

853
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 7: mass consumption way in the, sixties so the only way

854
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 7: to follow your team was like to go down and

855
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 7: watch them down the, street or follow them in the

856
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 7: local paper LEG i just don't think you got a

857
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 7: lot of people. THAT i don't think you had a

858
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 7: lot Of Dan byer's in the sixties and before that

859
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 7: were diehard fans of teams and other cities far. Away

860
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 7: so it just doesn't jive with. ME i don't believe.

861
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 7: That in the seventies is when they started Becoming america's, team,

862
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 7: right that was an easy bandwagon to jump with.

863
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: Us, Yeah, yeah it was. Yeah and that's WHY i

864
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 5: think that he became a he became a. FAN aasa

865
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 5: Glowing CROSS.

866
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: A great anecdote and a true anecdote about this topic of.

867
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: Conversation in nineteen eighty, Eight Wayne, gretzky the most dominant

868
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: player in hockey, history was traded from The Edmonton oilers

869
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: at the peak of his, career forced down the cups

870
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: in five, years to the then Lowly La, kings and

871
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: it took Hockey. Hollywood it resulted in a whole new

872
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: era of popularity for THE. Nhl but despite, that there

873
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: was a sizeable group Of kings fans who were loyal

874
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: to the team for many years, that believe it or,

875
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: not actively resented them Acquiring Wayne gretzky and resented the

876
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: new fans coming in who they considered as bandwagon. Fans

877
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: i'm talking about a, small already breed of fans who

878
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: have been loyal to a team that was kind of

879
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the standings for, many many. Years

880
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: it's shocking for me to even say that that's, true

881
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: but it was. True they resented the, trade and they

882
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: resented all these new fans that were showing up and

883
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: spoiling their you, know little.

884
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 5: Experience it's people who don't want their favorite bands to become.

885
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: Popular that's such a real.

886
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 6: Thing, yes that is such a real thing.

887
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 5: Because they love the music so much and maybe it's

888
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: so personal to. Them true.

889
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 7: STORY i went to A metallica concert in nineteen ninety,

890
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 7: one ninety one at The forum and As Enter sandman

891
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 7: was played as to start the, concert Two hessian guys

892
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 7: in front of me that were smoking pot looked at

893
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 7: each other and, said this is the. Song this is

894
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 7: when it all. Changed in other, words they were fans

895
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 7: of the album's previous they were the real. Fans But

896
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 7: Enter sandman gave us all of.

897
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 5: This, no, absolutely like there's there's no. DOUBT i know

898
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: people the same thing of That Black aulum. Was, yeah

899
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 5: that was the line in the sand for. Them tony's

900
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 5: In vegas wanting to talk about. Bandwagons, Tony welcome To

901
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: Fox Sports.

902
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 11: Radio oh how y'all doing?

903
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 5: Great? Tony how are you?

904
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 11: Good? GOOD i want to tell. Y'all y'all a one

905
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 11: thousand percent. WRONG i can tell you guys are Not

906
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 11: denzel fans because everybody who Are denzel, fans like myself

907
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 11: know he's From Mount, Vernon New, york and he's synonymous

908
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 11: with The knicks and The yankees and The Dallas. Cowboys

909
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 11: it's just that because of the, movies especially the movie

910
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 11: he played, in uh With when With Ray, allen he's

911
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 11: connected to. Basketball, now if you're talking about him being

912
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 11: A lakers, fan because he lives IN la and got

913
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 11: houses IN. La he's more of A vandwagon fan fan

914
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 11: to The, lakers but not to The. Cowboys and if

915
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 11: you heard his, story he said he was A cowboys fan.

916
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 8: Because of his father and.

917
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 11: Grass that's why he said sixteen not.

918
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: Sixties hold, On, Tony. Tony we Lost. TONY i had

919
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 5: to ask. Him so he said he's been a fan

920
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 5: since his the sixties or what was the?

921
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 6: Difference, yeah, yeah the, sixties not. Sixty no, week we

922
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 6: said that the sixties not his.

923
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 5: Age here this is AND i. LISTEN i got this

924
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: From Denzel's wikipedia. Page whether it was was true he

925
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 5: had looked At Texas tech or thought about going To

926
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 5: Texas tech at one point because the high school that

927
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 5: he was in was also called The Red. Raiders now

928
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 5: that is something THAT i think any kid can. UNDERSTAND

929
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 5: i was enamored with The university Of georgia for a

930
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 5: time WHEN i was a kid because they had the

931
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: same exact helmet that The packers, had but it was

932
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: a different. Color like it was such a it was

933
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: such a mind bleep for a kid that's eight years

934
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 5: old that, like you, know you just didn't you didn't, understand,

935
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 5: like how could, that you, know how could that? Happen

936
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: the quote From wikipedia, SAYS i grew up in the

937
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 5: boys club In, Mountain vernon and we were The Red.

938
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: Raiders so WHEN i was in high, SCHOOL i wanted

939
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: to go To Texas tech And lubbock because they were

940
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 5: called The Red raiders in their uniforms look like. Ours

941
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: that to me is more of a reason and why

942
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 5: you would be A Texas tech fan than you would

943
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 5: be A cowboys. Fan Now i'm not A denzel, fan

944
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 5: But i'll say this To tony's point that may work against,

945
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: him even though he says we're. Wrong what a nice

946
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 5: life to be A.

947
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: Yankees cowboys And knicks fan in the nineteen. Seventies the

948
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies were the last time The knicks are actually

949
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: good and were at the darn and winning a, Championship

950
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: so like those are all convenient to that. POINT i

951
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: actually thought he was A lakers, fan But i'm not

952
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: THE i don't know everything About, denzel but this is

953
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: part of the. Argument AND i don't necessarily think he's

954
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: bandwagon for The cowboys because he's stuck with them for thirty.

955
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: YEARS i just think he got on the train when

956
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: the going was good and just never has gotten off.

957
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 6: Totally AND i agree with, you AND i, Mean tony

958
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 6: made up a point where it's like he the bandwagon of

959
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 6: The lakers is also still a. Thing we're just mentioning

960
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 6: The cowboys right. Now but, yeah he's IN, la so

961
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 6: you could say he's now A laker. Bandwagoner BUT i

962
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 6: it just like you, said how, convenient how convenient for your.

963
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 5: Fandom there are people of my age whose favorite teams

964
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 5: are the forty Nine, ers The No, Offense Rich, davis The,

965
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 5: braves all these teams at the time that were winning

966
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 5: championships when you're thirteen years, old or winning teams at that,

967
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 5: time and they all Just i'm A i'm A, Braves,

968
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 5: Niners bulls, Fan, like oh, wow childhood must have. Stunk

969
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 5: you have no, Idea you have no idea what it

970
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 5: was like to going to school Every monday in Late

971
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: november After Ohio state lost To michigan and my friends

972
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: Weren't michigan. Fans they don't, care they just. Weren't they

973
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 5: laughed at me because The buck guys lost another big

974
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: game and that happened over and. Over roger In vegas Talking. Bandwagons,

975
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 5: Roger welcome To Fox Sports.

976
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 8: Radio, hey hello to, everyone AND i want to talk About.

977
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 8: Denzel i'm not A cowboys, fan but if you go

978
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 8: back to the era When Tom landrew was the, coach

979
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 8: they were in THE Nfc championship game like seventeen out

980
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 8: of twenty one, years AND i know that created a

981
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 8: tremendous amount Of cowboys Fan so that was just my you,

982
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 8: know thought on, uh what you, said he's a. Badger

983
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 8: there was a ton of. People and again go back To,

984
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 8: wintar that's the era That, denzel like myself would have

985
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 8: been a, younger you, Know EASi lee And Florence. Stamp

986
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 8: you see him in the championship game all the time

987
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 8: and having winning records for twenty plus. Years, yeah they

988
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 8: do a lot of. Fans so that's my take on.

989
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 8: THAT i just wanted to share that With.

990
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 5: ROGER i appreciate it because there's The cowboys And denzel

991
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 5: weren't the reason THAT i thought of, this BECAUSE i

992
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 5: mentioned This tomasi earlier this, week and like when we

993
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 5: get together For kivino And, rich we have to talk about.

994
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 5: This i've thought about this about two specific, teams and

995
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 5: one of them is in THE, nfl but the one

996
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 5: THAT i thought about at the most is The Chicago

997
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 5: bulls more because of my age AND i have, SAID

998
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 5: i have respect a lot of respect For bulls fans

999
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: that are Still bulls fans today because it hasn't been.

1000
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 5: Good aside from a Little Derek rose run in, there

1001
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 5: it's been. AWFUL. Raf so if you're still A bulls

1002
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 5: fan and chearing for The bulls, today, congratulations round of

1003
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 5: applause to. You even though in the nineteen nineties you

1004
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 5: had your way with, everyone at least you stuck with

1005
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 5: them and did not veer. Off but ultimately it feels

1006
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 5: like there were so Many bulls. FANS i was one

1007
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 5: of the few people that didn't Like Michael. JORDAN i

1008
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 5: wanted The bulls to. LOSE i wanted The sonics to beat.

1009
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: THEM i wanted The suns to be Fan YES i did.

1010
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 5: NOT i was not A jordan. Fan but at some

1011
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: point you just kind of are, like all, right you,

1012
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 5: know it is what it. Is they're gonna win. Again

1013
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 5: but that those fans that were Always bulls fans are you?

1014
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 5: Today AND i think that there's a test to. That

1015
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: the other, one To roger's point of the success of The.

1016
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 5: Cowboys i've thought that about The. Steelers how Many steelers

1017
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 5: fans do we know that are our? Age and it's

1018
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: because not your, Age, manzi you're. Younger but The steelers

1019
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: were winning Those Super bowls in the nineteen, seventies so

1020
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 5: you obviously liked. Them and now they have such a

1021
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 5: huge fan base now like are you are you still a?

1022
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 5: Fan are you? Bandwagon The steelers have had, success so

1023
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 5: they've kept their FANS i guess well. Fed but if

1024
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 5: you're A bulls, fan and even in this, case if

1025
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 5: You're denzel and you're still sticking by The, COWBOYS i

1026
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 5: actually don't think that you're bandwagon because you've been with

1027
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 5: him that. LONG i think that his argument is trying

1028
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 5: to fit his reason and trying to show how long

1029
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 5: he's been a, Fan but it just begs the question

1030
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 5: of if you started when they were, winning do you

1031
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: think that they're bandwagon if they haven't won in a?

1032
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 6: While, WELL i think, right if you were a bandwagoner

1033
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 6: at one point doesn't mean you still are like The.

1034
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 6: Bulls like if you jumped on that bandwagon During Michael

1035
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 6: jordan's prime and you're still, there Then i'm going to

1036
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 6: say you're no longer a, bandwagoner but that's how your fandom,

1037
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 6: started because there is a way where you were, that

1038
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 6: but now you stuck by it for whatever. Reason, Yeah

1039
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 6: bulls have had a, rough rough couple of years without much.

1040
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 5: Success it's been a while for.

1041
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 6: Me, yes and even just like making the playoffs and

1042
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 6: having like a fun, run they don't even have. That.

1043
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 5: Correct you, know you've Got Billy donovan on a contract

1044
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 5: extension now is what you've.

1045
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 6: Got that's literally, it and then a bunch of question

1046
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 6: marks around the rest of the.

1047
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 5: Team she's wont. Vollanios I'm dan byr in For cavino

1048
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: And rich talking bandwigon here On Fox Sports. Radio