1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Shares of HPE modestly higher, up about six tenths of 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: one percent. Been chopping around in the session, but the 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: company gave us strong sales and revenue projection for the 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: current quarter was striving it demand demand for AI hardware 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: in particular, has discussed with hp CEO Antonio Neeri, and 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: let's start with that. You know it clearly there is 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: some staying power in that demand at rack scale, you know, 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: crystallize it for us. What are you seeing in real time? 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning, Ed, and thanks for having me. We 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: saw a tremendous demand throughout the quarter. I think the 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: momentum in AI continues in the build out of the 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: data center, but what I'm really pleased is the momentum 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: we see in enterprise. In fact, most of our revenue 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: in AI, we're recognizing Q one came from the enterprise segment, 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: which shows you two key elements. One is the adoption 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: of agenttic AI into the company's workflow, and second is 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: the growing of inferencing. A lot of focus is always 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: around the training and training these new models, but for us, 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: our focus being both the sovereign space and the influencing 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: and enterprise space. But in our portfolio, we saw tremendous 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: momentum in networking. Our strategy where journalist has paid off, 23 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 3: and that's why we see double digits here over ear 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: growth in the order intake. 25 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: You know post Juniper networking is is upside for you, right? 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: I think you have a lot of confidence that growth 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: will come in networking. For the audience that doesn't understand 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: what it is you do in that space. Why is 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: networking on the rise in parallel with just kind of 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: the broader AI hardware demand that you're seeing. 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: Well, I do believe ed, and this was the core 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: tesis of the Juniper acquisation. The next inflection point in 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: ternal disruption will come from the networking connectivity layer. Think 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: about when you build a data center, you have to 35 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: connect this data center to other data centers through the Internet, 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: and that's what we call data center interconnect. Juniper has 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: one of the most innovative products in the route in space. 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: By the way, this passport that we grew meet twenty 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: percent in the order intake. And then once you are 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: inside the data center, you need to be able to 41 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: connect large amount of GPUs and CPUs together and that's 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: where you need a data center set, data center searching 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: portfolio in addition to some of the other core tenants 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: of the technology, and they are you know, the Juniper 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: portfolio group met forty percent in the order intake. So 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: I will say for us, that has been a core tenant. 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: That's why you know now they represent almost thirty percent 48 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: of the company revenues but more than half of the profit. 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: And for us that's all so the ability to raise 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: the outlook for the remainder of the year and also 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: their outlooking free cash flow because the structural margins of 52 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: that business and the working capital efficiency are very, very 53 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: different than the rest of the portfolio. 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean you actually said, look, you're not done raising prices. 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: You talk about discipline and what is a very dynamic environment, Antonio, 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: talk to us about well, how you're weathering the supply 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: chain issue, in particularly the cost the memory costs at 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: the moment. How do you navigate that? 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Carol, I mean, obviously the demand and supply has 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: a huge mismatch. 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: And you actually need to go back all the. 62 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: Twenty two to twenty three time frame to understand how 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: we got here. Accelerated by the hypercycle. 64 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: We see in the AI space. 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: But fundamentally, in our guidance, the new guidance, the new 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: outlook that we raise for twenty twenty six, we included 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: our ability to see the supply that we need to 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: convert that into revenue profit. But the reality is that 69 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: we do not have enough supply against the order intake 70 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: and the backlog, because otherwise we'll have even a higher outlook. 71 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: So what we're doing we have taken three very unique steps. 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: Number one is securing as much supply as we can, 73 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: but again we don't have all the supply that we 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: would like to have. Number two is taking a very 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: agile posture when it comes down to pricing, and as 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: I said yesterday, we are not done raising pricing. I 77 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: think that that cycle will continue well into twenty twenty. 78 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: Seven, although we will hope that we will. 79 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: Reach some sort of elevated pricing stability in twenty twenty six. 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: And number three, you know, my experience has taught me 81 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: that ultimately need to have direct, transparent conversation both with 82 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: customers and our partners. Last week I was in Europe. 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: I met more than twenty customers the Mobile Congress in London, 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: and they appreciate that level of transparency understanding the environment 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: we're in. 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're actually forgoing supplying some equipment to mobiles 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: service providers, so you're being choosy with who you work 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: with at this time of geopolitical angst and when we 89 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: question how much the Middle East is going to be 90 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: able to build out the data center capacity as once thought, 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: has the Iran conflict impacted your view on the world 92 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: or indeed the supply of the world and chips. 93 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: Not on the supply side, Carol, And obviously our first 94 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: priority because we have businesses in that region, whether it's 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: ue Qatar, bar In, Sauda Arabia, Israel, right is the 96 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: well being the safety of our employees. We have approximately 97 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: one thousand employees in that region and the good news 98 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: all are doing well at. 99 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: This point in time. 100 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: But from a supply perspective, no, But obviously as the 101 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: conflict may gets elongated, may have other implications, particularly on the. 102 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: Logistics side of the equation. 103 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: You know, look, air freight routes are a little bit 104 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: more complicated. We don't use boats of ships for transporting 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: our equipments. But over time we have to assess if 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: there is a revenue impact, what I can tell you 107 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: right now there is even more demand then we saw, 108 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: particularly three four months ago. So we have to navigate 109 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: that together, and we have to be smart about it. 110 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: Antonio, you have never let me tear apart an HPE server, 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: and that's okay. But if I've got my hands in 112 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: the compute trae, you'd have the high bandwidth memory around 113 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: the GPU wherever it comes from. You'd have the ddrs 114 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: around the CPU, and somewhere you'd have the SSDs and 115 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: flash memory. Be very very specific. Of those three, what's 116 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: the biggest impact to you right now in constraining your 117 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: sales and your outlook. 118 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: Very simple, is the dr and land or the SSDs. 119 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: Hbm's less constrained, but obviously a lot of the allocation 120 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: on the capacity has moved there. And as you know, 121 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: there is also a transition from the prior generation of 122 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: hbms to the new generation of HBM because you need 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: or memory channels. But it's really the DDR four and 124 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: which now nobody almost use it, but DDR five and 125 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: the nand part which is SSDs. 126 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: You said just earlier. Look, one of your three key 127 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: steps you took was to get as much supply as 128 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: you could to ensure that that was locked in. You 129 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: wish you could have more Who is it that you need. 130 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: To push more? Who is it do. 131 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: You need to have more security for? How can you 132 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: perhaps get hands on further supply going forward? 133 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: We have a long standing relationship with the three core 134 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: suppliers that provide DDR memory and hbms, and there is 135 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: a little bit a larger ecosystem for the nand space, 136 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: but we're having weekly engagements with them. We are looking 137 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: to swap components driving different configurations, but the reality all 138 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: of them are significantly constrained. 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Caroly Antonio, just twenty seconds, what's the dollar figure dollar terms, 140 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: and of what was left on the table, how much 141 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: better the outlook could have been. 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty sizable. I will say, you know, we 143 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: guided five pennies on the midpoint of the range and 144 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: then we raise our outlook for free cash flow by 145 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: almost two hundred million at the midpoint. But the backlog 146 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: is very very large at this point in time. If 147 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: you think about the II system, backlog is over five billion. 148 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: We raise again the networking for networks for AI goal 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: for then a year, so it's a very sizeable backlog. 150 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: So we hope we make progress as we go along, 151 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: but we categorize, we leveled it as a prudent guidance 152 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: at this point in time. 153 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Narisi of HPA. Thanks to the kind of conversation, 154 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: we appreciate it