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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, Robock and I were at a concert last

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Speaker 1: in tears is in studio with us today. Everybody, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ Roaves. Did I

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Speaker 1: get that about right? Did I describe it?

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Speaker 2: I had like I had ugly tears, like it was embarrassing,

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Speaker 2: Like I was actually crying, like absolutely sobbing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but it was there were tears of just what

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Speaker 1: Because it was sad. It wasn't a sad moment. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a sad song necessarily, it was a beautiful song.

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Speaker 1: But yes, okay, now you describe what my reaction was

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Speaker 1: to you cry.

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Speaker 2: You were staring at me and then you were laughing

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Speaker 2: at me, h lyrically.

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Speaker 1: Now that sounds mean, but everybody needs to understand she

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Speaker 2: I was laughing and crying at the same time because

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Speaker 2: I realized how like ridiculously emotional I was in that moment.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like it speaks to the level of

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Speaker 2: by one of my absolute favorite artists who I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited to reconnect with after God. It's been almost a

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Speaker 2: decade and she is one of my all time favorite,

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Speaker 2: favorite favorite people. I listened to her music at least

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Speaker 2: once a day. One of the songs and I have

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Speaker 2: all my favorites, and yes, this one song got me

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Speaker 2: last night. Do you remember what the name of the

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Speaker 2: song was?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I know what the name of the

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Speaker 1: here to set the mood here. This was at a

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Speaker 1: small church in Brooklyn St.

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Speaker 3: Anne, Saint Anne's, but it was I don't think it

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gorgeous, but it's a but when you think

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Speaker 1: You're in a church. So they have I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many candles were set up. They call these these

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Speaker 1: is one of the coolest concerts I have ever been to.

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Speaker 1: But the tone and the mood and the energy in

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Speaker 1: there was so so sweet and we're sitting there. We

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Speaker 1: had a good time had a good day, and sure,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting you told me about this song before

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Speaker 1: we went in, and so one song goes off perfectly.

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Speaker 1: We were having a good time, like, wow, this is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the chorus on song too, you all,

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Speaker 1: I wish you all could see me.

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Speaker 3: She should have taken a video her hands.

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Speaker 1: Look, we're moving like when the whole time, and it

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Speaker 1: was absurd and we were having such a good time.

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Speaker 1: You were laughing. I was laughing at you. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe you got caught up. Yeah, but in the moment.

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Speaker 1: But the song is called girls, Yes, and please describe

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, can we talk about the amazing

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Speaker 2: artist Rachel Platton, who I think everyone knows and loves.

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Speaker 2: But this song Girl, she released a year ago. And

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Speaker 2: my oldest daughter, Ava, who is also a singer or

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Speaker 2: an aspiring singer songwriter, she came running in and said, Mom,

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Speaker 2: you have to listen to the song. She was sending

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Speaker 2: to her. She send it back to me, and so

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Speaker 2: it's a song about Rachel wrote this for her two daughters,

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Speaker 2: my babies were two and five. That's the same spread

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Speaker 2: that my daughters are, but they're eighteen and twenty one now.

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Speaker 2: But it's a song. It's a tribute to them and

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Speaker 2: the power that they have, not just within themselves but

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Speaker 2: it's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: And with that, can we say welcome. That was incredible,

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Speaker 1: No thank you, but thank you for the invitation to

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Speaker 1: the concert last thank you for expending That was Look, sister,

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Speaker 1: I look. I don't need to sound like I'm posturing

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Speaker 1: that was one of the coolest venues and showcases of

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Speaker 1: somebody's talent I've ever seen. I've been to a lot

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Speaker 1: I have no greater respect for an artist than that.

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Speaker 1: And I saw you in a venue last night, Rachel.

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Speaker 1: That was unbelievable. That was unreal.

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Speaker 4: Think you're going to make me cry, thank you so much. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: to be seen it was kind of what I was

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Speaker 4: always wanting, and to be seen for. We'll get into

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Speaker 4: it more than fight song and seen for the true

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Were we felt. We just kept looking into the going

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Speaker 3: this is so cool, this is so.

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Speaker 4: Such an amazing venue.

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Speaker 3: It was. It was incredible.

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Speaker 4: There were thousands of candles that they set up. It's

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Speaker 4: called Candlelight Concert Series. I'm probably going to do more

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Speaker 4: I remember walking in there and being like, I get

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Speaker 3: Oh I didn't want you to either. I don't think

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Speaker 2: She was wondering what TJ and his music choices, like,

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Speaker 3: So she was like, I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 2: Ava was came back from her waitress shift and she

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Speaker 2: was like, Okay, TJ, what did you think.

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Speaker 1: I was just blown away. I'm familiar with your hit songs.

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Speaker 1: I have not done I'll admit I haven't done it.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't done a deep dive on a lot of

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Speaker 1: I was familiar. But for whatever reason, and her daughter

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Speaker 1: I was like, is this kind of a racial plan audience?

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Speaker 4: I think people are going to be pretty surprised by

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Speaker 4: her hesitance for you. I understand you're like unsure about

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Speaker 2: I loved the moment you started singing. He was like

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Speaker 2: She is the real deal. And that made me so

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Speaker 2: I was like, when she gets up there and starts singing,

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Speaker 2: I know, because you.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing that you knew, because I don't even know

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Speaker 4: if fans of mine and who. To be honest, I

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Speaker 4: didn't even know I could sing and play like that.

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Speaker 4: Something happened and we'll get into it. Something happened to

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Speaker 4: to me that unlocked something in me. And I get surprised.

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Speaker 4: I really am genuinely saying this. I get surprised by

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Speaker 4: And I never thought my voice was my calling card

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Speaker 4: Then people have asked me, my sister was there last

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Speaker 4: and there is actual more power. But spiritually, what I

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Speaker 4: think has happened is that this journey that I've been through,

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Speaker 4: So I'm told to myself, I'm not going to swear

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Speaker 3: Is why we're friends. I'm to say, God, literally.

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Speaker 4: God, I'm so sorry. But I so I think that

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Speaker 4: I mean, you heard me saying that song set me free.

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Speaker 4: I've already been through the hardest thing I could go through.

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Speaker 4: I actually, when it comes down to it, don't really

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Speaker 4: is for me and God, and this is between me

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Speaker 4: and you know my songs, and so if you want

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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? We know a little bit about it.

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Speaker 2: I know some darkness and coming through the other side

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Speaker 2: and when the worst has happened. Yes, and you think

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Speaker 2: when you literally hit rock bottom, and I've thought I've

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Speaker 4: My song Mercy starts with saying, there's dirt in my

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Speaker 4: So why am I still falling? It's happened same exact thing.

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Speaker 4: Exactly? How do I want horrifying? Like it might leave

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Speaker 4: your daughters, I had to waitress on the side, and

437
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: I played from one am to four am, and I

438
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 4: just hustled, and I sang commercials in the morning. And

439
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 4: I so until I learned that kind of work ethic

440
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: and that kind of hunger. Every show in New York

441
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 4: like the Bitter end Ones, those my Bitter end days.

442
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 4: They were so special, and I'd like invite all my

443
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 4: college friends. And I did have quite a following because

444
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 4: I was a nice girl in college, you know, and

445
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 4: I had friends come, and so the places would let me,

446
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 4: let me, would book me, yeah.

447
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: Because then you could bring people into the bar, right.

448
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 4: Exactly, you know, young people into the bar. But then

449
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 4: it wasn't enough because I was making like a couple

450
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 4: hundred dollars, So I had to figure out, well, how

451
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 4: do I really do this?

452
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: How do you write? You were you wrote fight song

453
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: just kind of wandering around the streets of New York.

454
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: How does a song like that come about? Are you

455
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: kind of humming in your head? Are you sitting at

456
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: a piano with a melody? Are you writing the lyrics?

457
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: How did that song come about?

458
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 4: That song took so much to write. I think because

459
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: I probably subconsciously knew that it was going to break

460
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: me open into the world. It was going to let

461
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: me finally be seen, and I think I was a

462
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 4: little scared to be seen. So it took two years

463
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: to write. And the first beginning of it came very quickly,

464
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 4: the way that I described most of my songs last

465
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 4: night channeled in a studio, instantly coming through like oh,

466
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 4: but it was a little it was a little like

467
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: marching beat kind of was strange. Before I was like,

468
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: this is my fight song. Time to dig back. And

469
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 4: then I wrestled with the rest of it for two years. Wow,

470
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 4: I know, I know, it was crazy, and I had

471
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 4: so many different verses. No producer would produce sit because

472
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: I was a nobody, and so I finally had to

473
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 4: learn pro tools myself. I went to garage band on

474
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: Fourteenth Street. I like hired some sweet looking nerd. Was like, no,

475
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I was. I was the nerd, I mean

476
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: no like, and we just geeked out for hours in

477
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: my tiny, you know, walk up fourth floor apartment, and

478
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 4: I learned pro tools and I learned how to produce

479
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: it myself so that I could finally let it be heard.

480
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: But that process, that whole thing took two years. And so, yeah,

481
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 4: I was wandering through the city with versions of it

482
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: in my ears. I was on the piano trying to

483
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: figure out I was humming it wherever I was. I

484
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 4: was just wrestling with it.

485
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: Was it?

486
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: Were you wrestling with the lyrics? Was that melody always there?

487
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: No?

488
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: No, no, none of it was always there? No, it

489
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 4: has changed so much. Maybe an interesting thing would be

490
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 4: to release some earlier versions.

491
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: It would be Yeah, I was about to ask you

492
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: to give us an earlier version. Now, is there any

493
00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: earlier version? You can remember it?

494
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 4: Because you tons there are so many? Oh wow, there

495
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: are so many. I had. I had like ten different

496
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 4: verses and the bridge now is the first verse, But

497
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: that was the bridge until the person that I finally

498
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 4: produced it with, John Levigne, said hey, I think that

499
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 4: should be the first person. I was like, but it's

500
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 4: the bridge, Like, what are you talking about talking about?

501
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: It sounded like my Boston.

502
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean.

503
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: And then for it to become the anthem it became

504
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: for cancer like it they just it just so happened

505
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: to be right along my journey, and it was. I

506
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: have had so many runs where I've had that song

507
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: on repeat, and I've cried through my runs seeing where

508
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: I was, how I got through it. I don't cry,

509
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: but your friends, you know what, but your songs are

510
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: so true and that was like that's when you know,

511
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: like you can't even stop the tears because they ring

512
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: so true for you. But like you had to have

513
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: been blown away when you were writing it. I couldn't

514
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: have known that this would become the anthem. It became

515
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: for so many people, not just cancer patients, but specifically

516
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: cancer patients, anyone who was going through something really tough

517
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: where they had to fight and find strength that they

518
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: didn't know they had.

519
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it's pretty mind blowing what happened, and

520
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 4: it's it's wild. It's so much bigger than me, you know.

521
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 4: It's it's like it's just been such a journey, and

522
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: I think part of the thing that I'm trying now

523
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 4: to almost climb out from under it because it's so

524
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: massive and people have made their decisions about who is

525
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 4: that artist and who is the writer of it. They

526
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: don't even know it's me. Some people think it's Taylor

527
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: Swift or you know, Christina or Colby Perry Swift, everyone's

528
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: Kelly Clarkson. Everyone's like, it's not her, who's that? Or

529
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: they think I'm just the writer, or they think I'm

530
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 4: just the artist, and I'm like, no, no, no, I

531
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 4: wrote this by myself. I performed it and produced it.

532
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: But so I'm trying to climb out from under that

533
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: a massive thing now. And that's why until maybe you

534
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: see me, it's hard to change, to understand that there's

535
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 4: more to it. People have really decided what I am

536
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: and what it is. So I think my job now

537
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: is to just be as honest and truthful and authentic

538
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: as I can, and hopefully people will open the curtain

539
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 4: a little more and look behind and say, wait a second,

540
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: who is there.

541
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: To that point that concert last night, you could have

542
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: ended that concert before playing fight Song, and I'd have

543
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: been just as happy as I didn't need that song

544
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: to be satiated about an experience with Rachel Platt. And

545
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: I think more people that get in front to get

546
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: to see you live. Man, you forget about no offense,

547
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: but you forget it. But you said it in a

548
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: way last night fight Song. You said, people ask you

549
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: all the time you ever get tired of performing it?

550
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: I know you do it constantly. You said, Hey, that

551
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: song pay for my house. So I enjoyed that song.

552
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: But it seems to take so much motion energy to

553
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: belt that song out and to perform it. How do

554
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: you get that? It seems like, oh it doesn't no, no.

555
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: It's a joy, okay, just like the easy I no, no, no,

556
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: It's like it's like breathing. It's so easy for me

557
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 4: and not to be like I'm so great. But it

558
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: the way that I perform it now is with such

559
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: like such wisdom. You know, I'm not the maiden anymore.

560
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 4: I'm the mother, and I'm I'm kind of looking back

561
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: with love at the little girl that felt that way

562
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: that she needed to crawl and climb her way up.

563
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: And we all have fights, you know, like we still

564
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: I have things that I want to reclaim. And you're

565
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 4: right though the rest of my concert now tells that

566
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: story already, So by the time you get there, you

567
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: don't from a the Mattic point need I've already given

568
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 4: you a different kind of encouragement that's almost deeper and

569
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: more earned, because I've taken you to the dark and

570
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: then let you come back to the light with me,

571
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 4: and so you believe me more. And I'm really proud

572
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 4: that I'll always get to play that song. Maybe there's

573
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 4: a day I don't need to close the concert with it,

574
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: but yeah, no, I I love it. I love playing it.

575
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 4: It doesn't take anything from me. It means so much

576
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 4: to me to see people crying in the audience, like

577
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 4: it's so beautiful, It's so beautiful, what's happened with it?

578
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 4: So I'll never I'll never, I'll never look at it

579
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: with anything but love and admiration and gratitude. But I

580
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 4: do feel like it's so much bigger than me and

581
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: not even mine.

582
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: But you're right, it is. It's joy that comes out.

583
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: But it's just it seems a lot of energy, I know,

584
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: and it.

585
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: Was I can't remember the song last night, but people

586
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: started in the audience were putting their arms around each other.

587
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: I also listen to that on repeat as well. I

588
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: know a lot of people you said in the audience

589
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: got that was their wedding song.

590
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I totally get.

591
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: Is that?

592
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

593
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: It's you know what's so beautiful about your music is

594
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: it really is? The songwriting comes through, and your intention

595
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: comes through, and the warmth and authenticity of your voice

596
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: just it's so powerful, and so I see why people

597
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: chose that for.

598
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: The wedding song. I'm like, oh my god, that is

599
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: the perfect wedding song.

600
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: We should use that one.

601
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: We should, guys, what news being made here?

602
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: No, it's just it should be on the list that

603
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: it should be an option perform.

604
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be like when you suppose we should

605
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: have Rachel be there, surprise me and sing the song

606
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: just forget anything you heard.

607
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: All a surprise.

608
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: That's cool.

609
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: Cool. Obviously the music you have now and this beautiful.

610
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: You've got three new hits, but you're still creating an album. Correct,

611
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: there's an album that's going done.

612
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: It's done, Yeah, yeah, yah, it's done.

613
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: When is that being released?

614
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: I'm not sure when this is coming out, or if

615
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: I'll have announced it, I will not have announced it yet.

616
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: So soon yes, yes, yes, soon soon than you might imagine.

617
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: Wow, that's very exciting.

618
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: What a dumb phrase?

619
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, but tell me.

620
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: So, you're You've been very outspoken, and I know so

621
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: many women are so grateful about your postpartum depression and

622
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: your mental health struggles and just going through it, not

623
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: just once, but the second time as well, because it

624
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: doesn't always happen with every pregnancy. You unfortunately had a

625
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: one two punch. Do you still have those really dark days?

626
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: Are you?

627
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: Are you pasted it? Are you through it? Give us

628
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: a sense of where you are on that journey.

629
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so kind of you to ask. I am.

630
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: I'm so proud to be through it. And I have

631
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: worked so hard in therapy and in saving my own

632
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: life in so many ways. I also, what I have

633
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: not really talked publicly about is that after the post

634
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: part partum I struggled with a two year chronic pain journey.

635
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: And so I just have such deep empathy for the

636
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: people now who come up to me and tell me

637
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: their stories. I really I felt like I always had

638
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: love for them, but now I just relate on such

639
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: a deeper level. My mom overcame cancer this year. I

640
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: just feel like I've run the gamut all right, but

641
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: I am through it, and I wouldn't be releasing the

642
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: music if I wasn't. I didn't feel ready. I wrote

643
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: Bad Thoughts in twenty twenty, but I was not ready,

644
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: and I was still suffering for a long time, and

645
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: so it took me a while to be strong enough

646
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: and kind of accepting enough of my journey and where

647
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: i'd been that it wasn't retriggering the trauma, because that

648
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: happened just a little bit when when I released Mercy

649
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: in January, I had some like flare ups of chronic

650
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: pain because it was a little bit retriggering until I

651
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: understood and worked on the fact that, like, no, I'm

652
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 4: not back there. Just because I'm singing this doesn't mean

653
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm back there on the floor of my studio that night,

654
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 4: sobbing and terrified. I'm going to look at this as

655
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: a storytelling, you know, more of a place that I

656
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: had been, and I'm going to relate to you with love.

657
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm going to relate with love to the Rachel that

658
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: I was that day and I'm going to share the

659
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: emotion from a place where I'm able to witness it

660
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: and embody it, if that makes sense. Have you guys

661
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: ever done any inner child work?

662
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

663
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I've been in therapy quite a bit.

664
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Speaker 1: Idelchild.

665
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: Wait so you meet all your tjs. No, it's incredible, you.

666
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: Know, And it's unfortunately it takes these these moments where

667
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: you are crippled in every way and you think help,

668
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: I need help. I have to figure out why I'm

669
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: here and how I got here exactly. So that's and

670
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: that's a scary, vulnerable place to be. But when you

671
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: can show it with other people, how how is there

672
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: a way to describe how how bad it got, how

673
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: low you got?

674
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: What was.

675
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: I really feel like if it had not been for

676
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: the support system I had around me, and in particular

677
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: my friend Gabby Bernstein, who I have not talked about

678
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: this either, Dino Gabby.

679
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: I've read all of her books, I've listened to all

680
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: of her audio books while I run she is.

681
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: I've not personally met.

682
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: Her, but I am a huge fan. As a friend,

683
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: she single handedly lifted me out of because she had

684
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: been through postpartum depression and we had both suffered at

685
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 4: the same time with our first I had a second

686
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: and I called her and I said, I'm feeling this again,

687
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: and this is what's happening, and she I was resistant

688
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: to medication. I was so scared the first time. I

689
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: didn't need an SSRI. I just was able to kind

690
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: of stay in my little sort of wishy washy view

691
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: of like Eastern medicine versus Western medicine, and I can

692
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 4: heal myself naturally, and I'll go to get occupuncture and

693
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: Chinese herbs, and I felt almost like a sense of pride,

694
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: like oh, I don't need to actually and I just

695
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: want to hold that girl with love because she was

696
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: hurting and she found a way to help herself. But

697
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: I remember being so resistant and so terrified of like

698
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: does this mean I'm actually crazy if I have to

699
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: start Zoloft or adavan or trasdom. I have so many

700
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: My nice sand became like a fucking like chemists corner.

701
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: I was like, and I was cutting pills. I was like,

702
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: who am I? What is this life?

703
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: Like?

704
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: How am I? I can't sleep without pills? This is

705
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: so scary. And finally, Gabby, but before that happened, Gabby

706
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: called me and was like Rachel, because I was like, Gab, yet,

707
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: I haven't slept in seventy two hours. I can't even

708
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 4: close my eyes without being terrified. Like I think I

709
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: need to go to mental hospital. I don't know what's happening.

710
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 4: She was like, Rachel, call your o beach Gyn right now,

711
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: get outa van, which is a Benzo. And like I've

712
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: been on a I called them at a girls to

713
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: gently like find a love of something that was gonna

714
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: heal me when nothing else could. And so now my

715
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: view of western medicine is like, oh, thank God, thank God,

716
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: God made this too. God's to work through anything. God's

717
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: gonna work through medicine or meditation whatever. Hell He's like,

718
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: but but he's in this too. And so she told me,

719
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: go get out of it and take it tonight. I

720
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: promise you will sleep, and then we need to get

721
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: you on an SSRI and you need to get a psychiatrist,

722
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: and you need to get serious about this because you

723
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: will write like you. I don't know how dark it

724
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: could have gotten if not for her and her getting

725
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: through to me. So yeah, I think that not sleeping

726
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: for seventy two hours was the most terrifying and scared

727
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: I've ever been in my life, and it was horrible.

728
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: What is it about you that had you built in

729
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: such a way. I mean your upbringing, maybe your your

730
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: family or something that had you so against getting help.

731
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: Like you feel like my family, I'm from Boston, like

732
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 4: I'm from Newton. They're so grounded and like I'm not.

733
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 4: They're not in the LA world at all. We were.

734
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 4: We always took medicine, and I don't know where the

735
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: hell I think it's LA, Like I think something in

736
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: the every girl goes through her like crystal phase, and

737
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: I'm really someone that's just really eager and excited to

738
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 4: like like ump jump on board with something. Even to

739
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: this day, like you're like, oh my god, I'm like,

740
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: oh yes, I get even more excited and I'm excitable,

741
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like you can convince me of things pretty easily.

742
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: Yea, Oh my god.

743
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: I'm just like really like yeah, I love that idea too.

744
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 4: And so when I moved to LA that's like around

745
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: when was that like ten years ago? I don't know.

746
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of women in my age

747
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: mid thirties, we were all kind of like holding our

748
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: crystals really tight and like cleaning them in the new moon,

749
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: and I don't know what we're doing, and I no offense.

750
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: If that's working for you, that's so beautiful and like,

751
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: bless you because good whatever makes you feel peace is amazing.

752
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: And who can judge each other right now? But for me,

753
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't enough when it really when it really hit

754
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: the you know, and I don't know where the idea

755
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 4: came from. I also am a yogi, like a very

756
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: serious yogi. I love yoga. I was doing it every day.

757
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: I was very into meditation. I still am, but now

758
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: my practices have become much more grounded and they can't

759
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: be like, you know, very very like okay, now we're

760
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: gonna channel in our guides like I can't do that

761
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: anymore because I'll lose my mind. So I probably could now,

762
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: but it would make me dissociate, which is a terrifying

763
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: thing if you've never experienced it. And so now mine

764
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: need to be very grounded. And a new friend of

765
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 4: mine is Elizabeth Gilbert. Do you guys, yes, love her?

766
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: You pray love. I mean, she's incredible, He's amazing.

767
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't roll in these circles.

768
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: Pray love, you know you pray.

769
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: You invite me to a brunch or something.

770
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: It's a very like White Lady. No, not just White Lady,

771
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: it's a very like it probably is. But she has

772
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: a community right now called the love Lets. She's doing

773
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 4: this dear love letter thing on substack. It is incredible.

774
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: It's basically God writing to you, and hundreds of thousands

775
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: of people are sharing letters that God writes to them

776
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 4: every day and being so sacred and held by each other.

777
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: It's amazing. I had posted one on Instagram and just

778
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: was like, she did not ask me to do this,

779
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: but I'm sharing mine And I got a message from

780
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: her being like Rachel and I lost it because I'm

781
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: such a fan and I love her so much and

782
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 4: she asked me to do one for her. But anyway,

783
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: why I digress is that she recommended to me this

784
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: breath work. She's similar to me. You might think that

785
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: she's like Crystal Lady, but she's actually pretty grounded and

786
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: can't deal with yoga voice that she calls it. And

787
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, yeah, But she told me she founded

788
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: this breathwork coach on insight timer and he just has

789
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: a southern youtue insight timer.

790
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: I do, and my jam that is okay, now finally

791
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: we got something. We're good. We'll do our own brunch.

792
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: I'm also from Boston. I'm like also a sports girl.

793
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Meditation was yes, Oh my goodness, yes, inside timer he

794
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: told me about it.

795
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 4: I downloaded because of teaching.

796
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: But the ones you speak of that where they are

797
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: doing those I don't want to knock anybody else who

798
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: does that, agreed, But for me it's just stuck camp.

799
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: I used to do.

800
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: That and it was wonderful for me. But after having

801
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 4: a major mental health crisis, they don't they aren't grounding

802
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 4: enough and they can like take me off into the ethers.

803
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 4: And so now mean to be very grounded. I'll send

804
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 4: you my guy that I like.

805
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: I like Rachel Blondin, you know her, Sarah Blondy, Sarah,

806
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: I love you.

807
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: I'm listening. Have you done that one?

808
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: I haven't done the health court. Okay.

809
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: That literally healed me loving myself. It was so grounded

810
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: and simple, this radical act of saying to yourself I

811
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 4: love you and listening.

812
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: Over and over.

813
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: She has some surrender a lot of things.

814
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: But anyway, this guy Taylor, it's like southern and he's like,

815
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, I have to get this point out somewhere

816
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: of the sky tailors.

817
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: Like, please just say it.

818
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: I think it's Taylor Somerville and he has these meditations

819
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: on inside timer and they're like all right, y'all, now

820
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: just take a deep breath in one, two, three, And I'm.

821
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Like, yes, we're Southern, so we like that.

822
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: Yes, that's amazing, Rachel. Can I ask you how your

823
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: husband has been throughout all of this?

824
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: Oh, you mean with my battles with my mental health

825
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: are just all of the ride of.

826
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: The ride the right?

827
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know, I'm always amazed when we

828
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: were looking to see you all have been married for.

829
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: Fourteen two years now, I.

830
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: Mean I applaud that, like just like it's incredible. Yeah,

831
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: what how has he handled all of this? He is

832
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: such a quirky, funny guy. He's just everything is funny

833
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: to him. Everything's he's just like full of jokes.

834
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: I think in our marriage vows, I was like, I

835
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: vow to love you and listen to your many many jokes.

836
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: And he's just a funny, sarcastic Jewish guy from Miami

837
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: who is like very rounded, very logical, very brilliant. He

838
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: went to law school, in business school. He's so logical,

839
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 4: left brain. We balance each other perfectly. He's my he's

840
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: the into my I'm like I need him and he

841
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: just makes me laugh all the time and he doesn't

842
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 4: let me take anything seriously. So when all of this happened,

843
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: he just was cracking up and he was just like

844
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, like, let's get that Britney money, baby,

845
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, what are you talking about, Kevin,

846
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: He actually saw Britney spears in an event, and he

847
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: like like, oh, I can't actually say what he does,

848
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: but he's just so he's just he's never let me.

849
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: He's also very grounding and like he's always making fun

850
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 4: of me constantly. So if I had like ridiculous outfits

851
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: on like today, I told you, he was like, I'm wearing,

852
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: by the way, for anyone listening, I'm wearing a jumpsuit.

853
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: It's a fashionable jumpsuits, it is, and I'm wearing a

854
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 4: fashionable hat. But my husband told me this morning, baby,

855
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: make sure you get those high windows instead of like

856
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: a window washer.

857
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: Right, you were describing TJ to me, Oh, I know

858
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: they'd like each other constantly.

859
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: Making fun of me. Yeah, obviously, I think it's hilarious exactly,

860
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: And so.

861
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: It worked exactly. I need to be made fun of.

862
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: You couldn't, Kevin said. Kevin says, without him, I'd be unbearable.

863
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, we were friends for like eight years and

864
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: all he did was make.

865
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: Fun of me. It's just what you need, right, yes,

866
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: because for us, like ye, taker's also seriously, please No, it.

867
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: Just wasn't long ago you would dress like something. And

868
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: I said, I know. He was, oh yeah, oh yeah,

869
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: we came in here, they sawry Rachel. She came in

870
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: and she wow, look forward to that horse to ride

871
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: and lesson.

872
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: Yet I mean because I had fashion.

873
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, high boots are in and like made a

874
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: little a.

875
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: Real Rachel Blatten Twitter when everything started happening, and like

876
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: it was him running it, and there was a lot

877
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 4: of people following it, not like maybe a couple thousand,

878
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 4: and he would just post pictures of like embarrassing things,

879
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 4: and like he posted me with three donkeys and he

880
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: was like four asses for me, like in a ski

881
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: lift of my legs up and he's like, Rachel platting

882
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: skiing like an asshole.

883
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god. He just sent me pictures of myself

884
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: that he took.

885
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: But I didn't know from the weekend where I look

886
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: like an idiot, and just for no reason, this morning

887
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: he sent me eight pictures where I look like an

888
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: absolute war.

889
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell Rachel what you were doing

890
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: in those, Rachel, Rachel, go ahead, tell her tell me, Rachel.

891
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: She was changing her pants in the parking lot.

892
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: Of a trail.

893
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: Head of a trail, do the same thing, but the

894
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: door was open. She's in the driver's seat and just

895
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: just draws out and open just me.

896
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: We are so compact to go.

897
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: And then he's taking pictures of me.

898
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: I turned the volleme off on my phone so she

899
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: can hear going.

900
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: And then he waited a few days, and then today

901
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: this morning, he just decided to send all of them

902
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: to me.

903
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: You're gonna be Kevin told me that I actually can't

904
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: get any more famous because of how inappropriate I am

905
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: and how like antisocial my behavior is on the street.

906
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: He's like, you can't just pick your nose if you're

907
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 4: like very famous.

908
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I can't ask you this, how many if if we

909
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: if the text messages between you and your husband became public,

910
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: how much trouble would you be in.

911
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: I think that it's mostly me bossing him around, being

912
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: like did you do this? Did you get the kids?

913
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: And then him making fun of me? And I don't know.

914
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, because we'd be in trouble. Well, you

915
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: gotta have someone in your life that if you have

916
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: text messages between the two of you, do you mean

917
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: would inappropriately?

918
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: We can't the country Sorry, peaches and eggplant lots.

919
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: Of I wasn't even thinking that.

920
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: We're just we just say all the things you can't

921
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: say to anyone else to each other. When you have

922
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: that person, judgment free like right, and even if you're

923
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: judging each other, that's okay as long as you know.

924
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 4: I feel permission to just be my real self with Deven,

925
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: and I thank God for that because in a time

926
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 4: that was very confusing when I didn't know who I was,

927
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 4: he always did.

928
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: That's that's really cool.

929
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: I think that's really the key to having that relationship last,

930
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: because you trust each other. And it sounds like you

931
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: guys are like really good friends.

932
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: Your best friend is my best friend.

933
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. Yeah.

934
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: So many people love your fight song as this inspiration.

935
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: She runs to it all the time. I absolutely have

936
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: run to it before, and I think it's that so

937
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: many people have songs that get them going. What is

938
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: your song? What is your go to? If you're not

939
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: listening to that, you need some inspiration to pick me up,

940
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: a good workout, whatever it may be.

941
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 4: Well, oh my god, do you guys like gospel music

942
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 4: by any chance?

943
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: Like it? Don't listen to a lot of it, but I.

944
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: Love it and I love Kirk Franklin. And I listened

945
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: to a song called Brighter Day and that one gets

946
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: me going no matter what. It is so affirming and

947
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 4: joyful and like, yeah, man, I love gospel music so much.

948
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: And I met Kirk at super Bowl Super Soul Sunday.

949
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 4: I think I was the only white person. Maybe there

950
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: was like five white people. I was terrified. I was

951
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 4: on stage about to perform with.

952
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: You didn't dance right?

953
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: Oh thank god? Noess, And they were just they were

954
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: so massively talented Mary Mary went before Franklin. They're all

955
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: like legends. In my eyes. I'm just in awe and

956
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm on stage, like, oh my god, this audience is

957
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: gonna hate me. But I start singing Mercy and they

958
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: were with me. I had them and they loved it,

959
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: and I felt Yeah, I.

960
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: Just felt cool. I finally felt cool.

961
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: I felt so well, just like so proud, you know,

962
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: and Kirk was like wow, and we became friends and

963
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: so it's cool to meet your heroes.

964
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: I love Kirk. I've been I've known him for a

965
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: long time as well, out of Atlanta. If you go

966
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: look up now. As crazy as this sounds, if you

967
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: go listen, you remember his song Smile. Of course, look

968
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: at that video you will see me in it. Oh

969
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: my god, I'm in the Kirk Franklin Smile video. Care

970
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: is low and cropt, but he had all of us

971
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: come in and sing versions. And there's a clip of me. Yes,

972
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin sick. Yes, I love that, bro. I did

973
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: not know ye how it all comes together as well.

974
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: You never thought you'd be talking about.

975
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: So much Ingram. Should we be friends? Forget about any

976
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: you know, well, I don't know if we can be.

977
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: Our producer sent me video of you dancing in a video,

978
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: so they just sent it. So it's not it's not

979
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: it's not what you described, Rachel, is not what you described.

980
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: I guarantee Rachel too.

981
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: I know Rachel. I guarantee that you're a better dancer

982
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: than me.

983
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: It's so it's it's not bad now, it's different. Okay,

984
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: here's this is wildest.

985
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 4: Thing is different?

986
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, no, no no no, that's not what

987
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: I meant. No stop stop. What I meant was I

988
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: can't imagine. We were so shocked when you said they

989
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: tried to have you dancing on stage, because if anyone

990
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: went to that concert last night, I couldn't imagine that

991
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: person trying to be some pop star and dance and

992
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: it just seems out of your comforts. And not to

993
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: say you were bad at it at all, but you

994
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: were just such an artist last night.

995
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: It was so cool to watch man, Thank you.

996
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: It was so cool to watch.

997
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: Your piano skills are incudib so good, so good.

998
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: I worked I like since listening to gospel and I

999
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: just kind of I just up to my cords. I

1000
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 4: just started to understand, like, wait a second, if this

1001
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: is what I like an Americana and like roots and soul,

1002
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 4: I I better learn to play like this so I

1003
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: can write one of these. So that was what I

1004
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: did over the pandemic? Was I love that?

1005
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: So you you just had a birthday, you turned forty three.

1006
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: How do you feel a woman in your forties now?

1007
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: Like for so many women are afraid of getting older.

1008
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: They're afraid of aging, they're afraid of becoming or losing.

1009
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: Their their youth.

1010
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: I love that.

1011
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: How has it been for you? You know?

1012
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: I spiritually absolutely love getting older. I think it is

1013
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 4: the most incredible thing. I would never go back to

1014
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 4: my twenties now are my thirties? Ever? You couldn't pay

1015
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 4: me enough to be to not know who I am

1016
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: again and to be thinking I needed to look outside

1017
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: for approval and for saving, you know. But that being said,

1018
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 4: so that's my inside, and then outside there's vanity. Of course,

1019
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's harder. And I did make the decision

1020
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: when I had my babies that I was going to

1021
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 4: stop getting botox and fillers and stuff, because I was like,

1022
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 4: I want my girls to be able to see what

1023
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: aging looks like and not feel like they have to

1024
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: be this thing that they're going to see everywhere on

1025
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: TikTok and Instagram that they don't even know what like

1026
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: forty three should look like anymore. And I so sometimes,

1027
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 4: of course, I'll like, you know, look in the mirror

1028
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: and be like, man, she looks old and tired, but

1029
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: which like a little bit of botox could so easily fix.

1030
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: But when I connect with what my real you know

1031
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: what my intention is. It's really to be as authentic

1032
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 4: and who and natural as I can. And that is

1033
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: no shade to anyone because I did it for years.

1034
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 4: I got botox for so long, and I understand the pressure,

1035
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: but I especially want to reach like young girls who

1036
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 4: think that they need to do preventative stuff like that

1037
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 4: is a lie. First of all, they are lying to you.

1038
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: I did that when I was twenty nine because someone

1039
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 4: told me I should preventively. It made my wrinkles worse.

1040
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: I just want people to know that is not the thing.

1041
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: That is not a thing. Stop. And I love my face.

1042
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: I love the lines that I've earned, and I love

1043
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 4: you know, I'm proud of it. So but there are times,

1044
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 4: of course, you know, when I'm looking at the music

1045
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: video screen, I feel a little like, oh man.

1046
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 3: It's it's tough.

1047
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 2: And the pressure now because you're seeing like teenagers getting

1048
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: getting oh yeah, the lips and all of that.

1049
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: Oh and lips. I'm so sorry. I just think that

1050
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: we're too old to understand.

1051
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't understand either, but yeah, no, and as

1052
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: your girls get older, it is true, it's a constant

1053
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: conversation because you want them to feel good enough, you know, and.

1054
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 4: See their mom and say, ye, my mom loved herself

1055
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: enough that, like, you know, my mom always did that.

1056
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: My mom is so beautiful and she never did anything

1057
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 4: to her face and was always adamant. And I also

1058
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 4: understand that this is a pretty privilege, Like I happen

1059
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: to be a pretty woman, and so it's probably easier

1060
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: for me to make that decision. And so that's something

1061
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: that I recognize, and that isn't fair and it's you know,

1062
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: but at the same time, I'm only deal with the

1063
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: face and the body that I have.

1064
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: So I'm have you stopped all that stuff now, you

1065
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: won't do anything what's your upkeeper maintenance or routine or what.

1066
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: Is the well I will still work really hard, Like

1067
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: I'm still vain and I tried wanted to be you know,

1068
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 4: in any way not natural. So look, this is also

1069
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: an income thing. Income. I have a lot of money

1070
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: to spend on facials and a lot of money to

1071
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 4: spend on products, and that's not what everyone can do.

1072
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 4: So I also recognize that in a way, how I'm

1073
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 4: if I really wanted to like represent the public, then

1074
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't use all these expensive products. But I'm just

1075
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 4: doing what I can, you know, and I have expensive products.

1076
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 4: I get expensive facials, I get micro dem abration, and

1077
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: I get I do the things. I do what I can.

1078
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: But forgive me, I feel weird now after asking me

1079
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: like questions, you're a regiment because I am. Okay, stay

1080
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: with let me try to figure this out there mode.

1081
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like should I do it?

1082
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: It's like it's like the lights Like no, it's like

1083
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: they it's like the heat stuff that they put into

1084
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: it hurts a lot, but I try. I don't do

1085
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: fillers at all because I don't want to do that either.

1086
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: I just thank God.

1087
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: But I do do botox.

1088
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 2: I do do botox, but I do not do fillers.

1089
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 2: But I do like the vampire facial thing where they're

1090
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: taking your own blood and put it back in.

1091
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: Trying to do these things on that I don't want

1092
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: to try that. Yeah, that I got it. I'm way behind.

1093
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm also ten years old.

1094
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: What about razor? What's the thing this thing?

1095
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

1096
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: I did microblading. I've made my eyebrows.

1097
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: Oh that is so smart. Instead of being a dumb

1098
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: dumb and drawing him in every day I.

1099
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: Know those are the things I want to do.

1100
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 4: I have, like a lot of freckles from the sun though.

1101
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: Is great, it's just there. Yes, they're beautiful. Oh my gosh,

1102
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: you are like my daughter. It's crazy, right, ickles. Well,

1103
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: she's got these beautiful freckles.

1104
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: She embraces them and loves them, and I think they're

1105
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: gorgeous on YouTube.

1106
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: But I think that I'm lying because there are times

1107
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my lord, I look like an eighty

1108
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: year old with all my the age spots and freckles.

1109
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: But whatever, I feel like i'm getting into, like superficial.

1110
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 4: But I feel like, here's the thing. What is inside

1111
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: of me is so clear to me now, like what

1112
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: i'm herefore that I'm loved by God, by myself, by

1113
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: my girls, Like I know what matters. And so when

1114
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: I get quiet and do my breath work on the inside,

1115
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: timer I love myself so deeply and because of who

1116
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 4: I am inside, not the outside. And when I feel

1117
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 4: that way, then I look in the mirror and love

1118
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 4: who I see there too, regardless of if she's tight

1119
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: or tone in her skinny or whatever, like I love her.

1120
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: But if I haven't up kept my inside, then I

1121
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: start criticizing the outside. So whenever I start getting a

1122
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: little too critical of how I look, I know it's

1123
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: time to do some soul work.

1124
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: That's really cool, man, that's good advice.

1125
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, myself.

1126
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: But it's beautiful to be able to find a way

1127
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: to compliment yourself and to appreciate the work you've done,

1128
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: recognize it, and own it.

1129
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: And that is a part of your confidence. That is well.

1130
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure getting to know you through your

1131
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: music more over the past week or so as we

1132
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: were getting ready for the concert, and I can't say

1133
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: it enough. I know the big arenas are great, but

1134
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: if somebody, if I hear you're going to be at MSG,

1135
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: that's one thing. If I hear you had another venue

1136
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: like the one we saw last night, or at a

1137
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: small bar, or in a lounge or something that is

1138
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: where you should be enjoyed, you are just ridiculous on stage.

1139
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Somebody standa give them a mic and a piano. Give

1140
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: my mic and a guitar. That I have no greater respects, sister,

1141
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: It is a pleasure. And I will tell you when

1142
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: you came out, she was so excited last night, But

1143
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: when you first came out, on stage, she leaned over

1144
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: to me.

1145
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: Ah, she's so cute.

1146
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: I swear to it was exactly what she said to me.

1147
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: So please know this one here has been raving way

1148
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: about Amy.

1149
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 4: I think she's adorable and beautiful and wonderful and charismatic

1150
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 4: and TJ you are delightful as well, handsome and dashing

1151
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 4: and fit.

1152
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: As an aside, yes, yes, before we went in, you

1153
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: remember the girl. She's treating me like the woman last night.

1154
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: You remember we were sitting a weird cousin. Well, I

1155
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: hope not. But before we came into your count we

1156
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: had a drink. I had margarita around the corner before

1157
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: we came to church. Of course we drink. But a

1158
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: woman came up and was the woman that said to you,

1159
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so great. I loved your book.

1160
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: Everything is so great. And she just looked over at

1161
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: me and said whatever, okay, And we did know this

1162
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: is a true story, okay, And she just kept talking

1163
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: the robes and it.

1164
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 3: Was sweet and said you're.

1165
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: Great and that she kept going and said it again

1166
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: at the end, you know, and did this And I

1167
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: never said anythings to the woman.

1168
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: It was it was crazy.

1169
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: And unnecessary, but that's deeply unnecessary. But you triggered me

1170
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: just then by saying to Ja, we can be a

1171
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: friend as an aside, so that's all.

1172
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: Sorry.

1173
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: It was funny, we were we actually laughed because you're wonderful.

1174
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: No, no, eazy. But it made me think about that

1175
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: woman and then.

1176
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: And then she was at your concert by the way.

1177
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: He was like, look, it's the woman.

1178
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: My cousin.

1179
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: I think she thought she was being funny, but it

1180
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: was actually really disrespectful and rude.

1181
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 4: And the people are like they think that, They're like, yeah,

1182
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: people just don't always know what to do. They get nervous,

1183
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 4: they get really intimidated. You're you know, you're like a tall,

1184
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: good looking man.

1185
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: They're probably like, I am the sweetest but but.

1186
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,959
Speaker 4: All right, I have to go. I love you guys,

1187
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: So we love you.

1188
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: We love you, We love you, and thank you for coming.

1189
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: It's such a pleasure. We cannot wait for the album announcement.

1190
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: We will be waiting on the edge of our seats

1191
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: and I will.

1192
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: Be honestly, it was so such a joy.

1193
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: Thank you. Rachel Platton