Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right
Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this
Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. The Chiefs are six and seven.
Speaker 2: Demosey, Yeah, it's grim. They have lost now four of
Speaker 2: their last five after that game with Houston. This is
Speaker 2: the first time I think it kind of looked like
Speaker 2: the cold was affecting the Chiefs. O. Lione was cook,
Speaker 2: Kelsey had some drops, Rice had some drops. Mahomes was
Speaker 2: limping around. Is there any type of silver lining or
Speaker 2: any type of hope that you're holding on to after
Speaker 2: this last game through the end of the season, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, listen, the hope is like, do they have
Speaker 1: a path to the playoffs? And the answer is yes technically,
Speaker 1: but and the simplest way to explain their path to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and then we'll get into what has happened.
Speaker 1: But let me just get this out of the way.
Speaker 1: They have to go for oh, home Chargers at Titans, home,
Speaker 1: Broncos at Raiders. The Colts can't go three and one.
Speaker 1: Not worried about that. They're they're there. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: thinking about starting Philip Rivers. So the Colts part of
Speaker 1: it to me is easy because the Colts have Seahawks, Niners, Jags, Texans,
Speaker 1: so the the let's just say the Colts are out
Speaker 1: and then the Chargers have to go either zero to
Speaker 1: four or one in three, with one of the losses
Speaker 1: being to Denver in week eighteen. The simplest way to
Speaker 1: look at can the Chiefs make the playoffs is they
Speaker 1: have to beat the Chargers this weekend. They then have
Speaker 1: to beat the Titans, the Broncos and the Raiders, and
Speaker 1: the Chargers have to then lose to Denver in week
Speaker 1: eighteen and to either the Texans or the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: week sixteen seventeen. If that happens, the Chiefs make it.
Speaker 1: And when I lay it out that way, I can
Speaker 1: tell by the look on Demand's face it doesn't seem impossible.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, Chiefs gotta beat the Chargers, the Titans,
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are awful home game against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They could do it. And then for the Chargers, can
Speaker 1: they lose to Denver in week eighteen and to either
Speaker 1: the Texans or the Cowboys. It's like yeah, oh maybe,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's possible. The problem is this, as evidenced
Speaker 1: by the Chiefs game Sunday Night. The Chiefs are not
Speaker 1: a reliab team right now, and they lost Sunday Night
Speaker 1: for ten different reasons, and they were all little microcosms
Speaker 1: for what's happened all season long that has put them
Speaker 1: in this position in no particular order, just kind of
Speaker 1: running list right bad special teams for the first time
Speaker 1: of this era. That missed field goal at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half ended up being absolutely brutal, particularly
Speaker 1: because if they were up thirteen to ten instead of
Speaker 1: tied ten to ten, they wouldn't have gone for that
Speaker 1: fourth and one, which then leads me to some very
Speaker 1: shaky situational coaching from Andy. At times, it feels like
Speaker 1: he has been more aggressive than not. It feels like
Speaker 1: he has been way more aggressive than any year than
Speaker 1: years past, yet oddly passive in the Cowboys game when
Speaker 1: both teams are moving the ball up and down the field,
Speaker 1: and then insanely aggressive in the Texans game when that
Speaker 1: Texans offense was dead on arrival in the second half,
Speaker 1: like that going for that fourth down when at that
Speaker 1: moment Chris Jones has taken over the game entirely. Is
Speaker 1: I hated it in real time? I don't care what
Speaker 1: the analytical model said the flow of that game, the
Speaker 1: Texans were not scoring again and the Chiefs didn't need
Speaker 1: to do that. I love Andy, but that was a miss,
Speaker 1: so that bit them in this game. I mentioned Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: He was unreal in the second half of this football game.
Speaker 1: But the fact that the Chiefs all year long have
Speaker 1: only been able to generate any type of quarterback pressure
Speaker 1: when Chris Jones is dominant is a collective failure. I
Speaker 1: don't know how many times I've talked to Monday about
Speaker 1: third and longs. They gave up a third and sixteen
Speaker 1: in this game they gave up Listen, the third and
Speaker 1: ten that they gave up on the pass interference was shaky,
Speaker 1: but they gave up a third and eight previously, like
Speaker 1: third and long defense was a problem. I'm not Patrick's
Speaker 1: game was odd because obviously the stat line is the
Speaker 1: stat line, and he missed some throws. I also thought
Speaker 1: he had some heroic moments and was the least of
Speaker 1: our problems. But he did throw that pit the second
Speaker 1: pick he threw the one in the second half on
Speaker 1: third and six deep down the field, Hollywood, Brown's open
Speaker 1: and he underthrows in the inability to get on the
Speaker 1: same page on the deep ball has been a problem
Speaker 1: all year. And when he has gotten on the same page,
Speaker 1: like the bomb to Taekwan Thornton, the perfect sixty yard pass,
Speaker 1: Thornton doesn't reel it in. Kelsey has actually been really
Speaker 1: good this year. He's he's second in I think amongst
Speaker 1: Titans and yards and catches. But his bad moments have
Speaker 1: been awful. The drop against Philly that flipped that game,
Speaker 1: the dry against the Texans that ended this game. The
Speaker 1: total inability to have any run game other than from
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes aside from Kareem Hunting, the Colts game has
Speaker 1: been a killer. Patrick's led them in rushing four times
Speaker 1: this year, they're owing four in those games all and
Speaker 1: so going into this game, you knew the offensive line
Speaker 1: was a problem. They were down three starters. In the
Speaker 1: first play of the game, one of the backups went down.
Speaker 1: But honestly, the third string kid that came in as
Speaker 1: a pole, I think is how you say his name,
Speaker 1: it's p O l E, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: pronounced Pole played really well. And the Chiefs game plan,
Speaker 1: knowing it was not the quick, quick quick, they didn't
Speaker 1: lose because the offensive line was in shambles. They lost
Speaker 1: because they haven't executed. And this is this is Demand's
Speaker 1: why I was so adamant all of last year that
Speaker 1: I did not care what the advanced stats said that
Speaker 1: that was a great team because winning in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We haven't solved it yet through success rate and EPA
Speaker 1: per play and DVOA. We just haven't. And it's one
Speaker 1: of the beautiful things about pro football is it hasn't
Speaker 1: been sabermetric to the way baseball has, where we just
Speaker 1: know everything. And last year's team, yes, of course there
Speaker 1: were some lucky bounces, and yes, of course there were
Speaker 1: a couple of few wins that could have been losses.
Speaker 1: But overall, that team understood, like a great tennis player
Speaker 1: does the four or five highest leverage leverage moments of
Speaker 1: a match, and that's when they execute their best. This year,
Speaker 1: this Chiefs team has been the exact opposite. And I
Speaker 1: can go. I can Week one, after being thoroughly outplayed,
Speaker 1: you have the Chargers in a third and fifteen to
Speaker 1: get the ball back, and Chris Jones doesn't keep containing
Speaker 1: Herbert runs and you lose. Week two, you're about to
Speaker 1: take the lead on the goal line and Kelsey doesn't
Speaker 1: secure the ball, tips it up and it's intercepted. The
Speaker 1: loss to the Jags. Patrick doesn't see a lurking d
Speaker 1: lineman with a chance to put the game away. It
Speaker 1: gets picked sixth and they lose. The loss. Against the Broncos,
Speaker 1: you have bow Nicks in a third and eight with
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter lead, and you let him complete an
Speaker 1: easy pass over the middle of the field. This has
Speaker 1: happened all year, and the Texans game was no different.
Speaker 1: Fourth and one tie game, ten minutes left, brutal, cold
Speaker 1: arrowhead on fire on your own thirty against a team
Speaker 1: that has not scored in an hour and a half
Speaker 1: of real time, and you ran a play with no
Speaker 1: threat of a run against the best pass Russian football.
Speaker 1: That's how you lose. And so that's just that's just
Speaker 1: where they're at. And I'm not going to where I
Speaker 1: will and I don't know if people want to hear
Speaker 1: this or not where I will give myself credit, I guess,
Speaker 1: but not really credit. This is just more an indictment
Speaker 1: on how other people I think either do sports fandom
Speaker 1: or media. I'm not going to make any of the
Speaker 1: excuses that people made in the other direction when the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were winning. I'm not good like I'm not blaming
Speaker 1: the reps for the bad pass interference call that it
Speaker 1: led to seven Texans points. Bad calls happen. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's bad luck. I'm not saying this is actually,
Speaker 1: deep down a great team. They're not. And I talked
Speaker 1: I don't know how much content I did after the
Speaker 1: Cowboys game. You didn't hear You're not. You didn't hear
Speaker 1: me say one thing about the officials, because it's the NFL. Man,
Speaker 1: there's up and down officiating every single week. You bake
Speaker 1: that in. If you're not a loser, you don't create
Speaker 1: a stupid conspiracy theory and you deal with it. And
Speaker 1: that is that's where they're at now. With all that said, Demons,
Speaker 1: if they beat the Chargers on Sunday, a flicker of
Speaker 1: hope return, because I will now there is a very
Speaker 1: real possibility of a cruel circumstance staring at me, which
Speaker 1: is because again, nothing if the Chargers beat that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if the Chargers beat the Chiefs, the Chiefs are dead.
Speaker 1: But the Chargers could lose their next three, And if
Speaker 1: they beat the Broncos, the Chiefs are dead, just dead.
Speaker 1: I think technically there is a different possibility of the
Speaker 1: whole like AFC South imploding, but I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a real like I'm that involves like the Cardinals and
Speaker 1: the Raiders winning games like that. For all intents and purposes,
Speaker 1: If the Chargers beat the Broncos, the chief season's over
Speaker 1: and that's in week that's in week eighteen, and be obvious.
Speaker 1: So that's the So that's what I've tried to game
Speaker 1: out in my head of do I think it's likely
Speaker 1: the Broncos are not playing for something that week? So
Speaker 1: let's actually, you know what, let's just real quick talk
Speaker 1: this out right now, because what we know is the Broncos.
Speaker 3: Have the rest of their seasons pretty tough too. At
Speaker 3: least right now, we have a super easy.
Speaker 1: Well so, but I don't know if that's good for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs or not. So here's the deal. If we're
Speaker 1: assuming obviously none of this matters. If if the Chiefs
Speaker 1: don't beat the Broncos, so that puts the Broncos at
Speaker 1: three losses, we need Denver to be playing for. I can't,
Speaker 1: you know what, there's no way to figure this out,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because there's too many unknown
Speaker 1: tiebreakers because Denver and the Patriots didn't play head to head.
Speaker 1: Right now, when Denver and the pats are have the
Speaker 1: same record, the Broncos have the tiebreaker.
Speaker 3: But I mean, so you would want them to win
Speaker 3: their next too?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I'm not gonna figure this out.
Speaker 3: It seems like what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think. Here's what I But here's
Speaker 1: where I don't. Would wouldn't want them to win their
Speaker 1: next two. I wouldn't want them to win their next too.
Speaker 1: If the Patriots are about to go on a bit
Speaker 1: of a swoon, and then it gives the Broncos the
Speaker 1: possibility of having the one seed locked up going The
Speaker 1: worst case scenario is the Broncos have the one seed
Speaker 1: locked up going into Week eighteen. That's a disaster. The
Speaker 1: So this isn't good podcast content. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: spend more time on this. What I the because I
Speaker 1: can't figure out the exact situation, you know, ramifications, what
Speaker 1: I so? What would be the chiefs? So the point
Speaker 1: that I was trying to make was, after all of
Speaker 1: the trash I've talked on the eleven and two Broncos
Speaker 1: all year if they end up being so good that
Speaker 1: not only do they win the division, but they are
Speaker 1: able to arrest players and that costs the Chiefs a
Speaker 1: spot in the tournament, which again, for that to even
Speaker 1: be a possibility, Kansas City's got to win all of
Speaker 1: the rest of their games. That would be a That'd
Speaker 1: be a cruel mistress, I'll tell you that much, but
Speaker 1: to a position they've put themselves in. Now, I do
Speaker 1: want to say one more thing demands before we get
Speaker 1: to the other stuff, which is the how does this
Speaker 1: impact the Mahomes goat stuff? And I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: do this quickly, but I I don't even think it
Speaker 1: is debatable what I'm about to say. It's just very
Speaker 1: simple kind of how linear time works. Okay, even when
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs this year, if they do, Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: by any metric that you choose, stats, wins, posts, in success, championships,
Speaker 1: championship appearances, by any metric, has had the greatest first
Speaker 1: eight years as a starter or first nine years of
Speaker 1: his career of any player in league history, of any quarterback.
Speaker 1: That is not a debate. That is just what the
Speaker 1: numbers are now. Obviously, in his quest to become the goat.
Speaker 1: You have to incorporate two realities. One is the guy
Speaker 1: he's chasing beat him twice in the playoffs and he'll
Speaker 1: never be able to beat him because he's long retired.
Speaker 1: That hurts. And the other one is the guy he's
Speaker 1: chasing played so incredibly long and had such an un
Speaker 1: believable final ten years that it is unrealistic to think
Speaker 1: Patrick will play nearly as long as Tom, and so
Speaker 1: he needed and needs to rack up accomplishments early and
Speaker 1: really be ahead of the pace because almost he's I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna playuti least forty five. So all
Speaker 1: of that is just factually true, and so in that regard,
Speaker 1: this season hurts him a lot. But one can acknowledge
Speaker 1: that while also acknowledging that the idea that Tom Brady
Speaker 1: or those Pats never had dips or maybe not season
Speaker 1: quite like this, but I'll get to that in a moment,
Speaker 1: is erroneous. Patrick has been a starter for eight years.
Speaker 1: Let's assume they missed the playoffs this year. In those
Speaker 1: eight years, Patrick has more playoff wins eight years. Is
Speaker 1: a starter. Side by side Patrick and Tom, they have
Speaker 1: the same number of Super Bowl wins. Patrick has more
Speaker 1: playoff wins, regular season wins, playoff appearances, regular season MVPs,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVPs. In those eight seasons, Tom missed the
Speaker 1: playoffs twice. Patrick has missed the playoffs potentially once. In
Speaker 1: those eight seasons, there were three years where Tom's team
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two years where Tom's team did not win
Speaker 1: a playoff game, and three years where Tom's team did
Speaker 1: not make the conference championship game. And Patrick's eight years. Again,
Speaker 1: assuming they missed the playoffs, there will be one year
Speaker 1: where they didn't want a playoff game and one year
Speaker 1: where they didn't make the conference championship game. Now, people
Speaker 1: listening to this are yelling two things. Well, one of
Speaker 1: those years Tom was hurt. Unfair to use that against him.
Speaker 1: It's totally true, and I'm not using it against him.
Speaker 1: I am simply doing linear time. First eight seasons, here's
Speaker 1: what they did. And while you wouldn't use the year
Speaker 1: he was hurt and they missed the playoffs against him,
Speaker 1: you also certainly are not going to be like that
Speaker 1: helps him, like that that the year he didn't play
Speaker 1: helps him. The other thing people say with regularity is
Speaker 1: well the two year when they missed the playoffs and
Speaker 1: won nine games. Tom wasn't Tom. Okay, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's an okay opinion to have, but it is a
Speaker 1: weird opinion to have. If the argument, if you are
Speaker 1: trying to make the argument that through eight years, Tom
Speaker 1: was better, then I don't think you can make the
Speaker 1: argument that year two of that timeline doesn't count because
Speaker 1: year two Patrick was so much better than year two Tom.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense. Now if the argument is at
Speaker 1: the beginning Tom wasn't his fully for himself, and when
Speaker 1: he became his fully for himself, they never had a
Speaker 1: year like this, that is true. That cuts in both directions, though,
Speaker 1: because if you're saying that early Tom doesn't get knocked
Speaker 1: for a nine and seven season because he wasn't really
Speaker 1: Tom Brady yet, then you can't then also be like,
Speaker 1: but all of the accomplishments count with the same way
Speaker 1: he does, Like the super Bowls count for him, the
Speaker 1: misplayoffs isn't counting against him. I'm not gonna do any
Speaker 1: of that. I'm simply gonna line up the eight years
Speaker 1: next to each other and Patrick's first eight years by
Speaker 1: any way you cut it, even with this year included
Speaker 1: outstripped Tom's first eight years. Now, again, the obvious argument
Speaker 1: against that is, yeah, but do you think Patrick's next
Speaker 1: fifteen are gonna look like Tom's. That's gonna be very,
Speaker 1: very difficult, but we're not there yet. And what I
Speaker 1: would also add is this, you know who also didn't
Speaker 1: think their next that the second decade of his career
Speaker 1: was going to look like it did for Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots, because twenty eleven to twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen was the Pats run that comes closest, that actually
Speaker 1: outstrips now this Chiefs run twenty eleven to twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: So the Patriots had one to seven seven years, three
Speaker 1: four super Bowl appearances, three championships, the Chiefs eighteen to
Speaker 1: twenty five, seven years, five super Bowl appearances, three championships
Speaker 1: the Patriots in that time or eighteen to twenty four,
Speaker 1: I should have said for the Chiefs. Patriots in that
Speaker 1: time missed the playoffs once, didn't make the conference championship
Speaker 1: game two times. The Chiefs miss playoff zero times, didn't
Speaker 1: make the conference championship game zero times. And then there's
Speaker 1: the Patriot run of eleven to eighteen that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: had been chasing eight straight conference championship games, the only
Speaker 1: streak longer than the Chiefs won. Right now, five super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearances, same as the Chiefs. Three super Bowl victories,
Speaker 1: same as the Chiefs. If the Chiefs missed the playoffs
Speaker 1: this year, then this eight year run they also went
Speaker 1: to three straight Super Bowls like the Chiefs did, then
Speaker 1: this eight eight year run falls just short of that one.
Speaker 1: But notice the timeline I did demanse was one to
Speaker 1: seven and then eleven to eighteen. And the reason I
Speaker 1: did that, and this is again, if people are interested
Speaker 1: in being having a real discussion about the resume side
Speaker 1: by side, you then have to include that in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and ten, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and the New England Patriots in those three years
Speaker 1: won a total of zero playoff games. So the only
Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is, let's assume the Chiefs
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs this year in year eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the the symmetry of this is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, in his seventh year as a starter, walked
Speaker 1: onto the field in the Super Bowl attempting to win
Speaker 1: his fourth championship and cement that team as the greatest
Speaker 1: team in the history of the league. They lost, and
Speaker 1: the next year was a season from hell because Tom
Speaker 1: got his knee blown out in Week one. The next
Speaker 1: year they won ten games and got beat by twenty
Speaker 1: in the wild card round of the playoffs. And the
Speaker 1: next year they were the number one seed and lost
Speaker 1: to Mark Sanchez at home in their first playoff game,
Speaker 1: and then they started the eleven to eighteen eight straight
Speaker 1: conference championship game run. Patrick Mahomes, in his seventh year
Speaker 1: as a starter, walked onto the field trying to win
Speaker 1: his fourth Super Bowl and knowing, if we win this game,
Speaker 1: we are the greatest team of all time. They lost,
Speaker 1: and the following year was a season from hell. He
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt, but it looks like they're going to
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs again. If Brady is following the Mahomes timeline,
Speaker 1: If Mahomes is following the Brady timeline, that would mean
Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't win a playoff game again until twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight. That the next two years they don't win
Speaker 1: a playoff game. I don't think that's gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: also don't think Patrick's gonna play twenty four years. I
Speaker 1: don't think their careers are going to be identical moving forward,
Speaker 1: but through eight years, it's stunning how similar the overall
Speaker 1: team's success has been. And the Patriots after that seven
Speaker 1: season and then the eight season had to do a
Speaker 1: bit of a reboot. We'll see what the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: to do. So that is the full version of it.
Speaker 1: I that's where we're at, and we'll see if they
Speaker 1: pull me back in with a win Sunday against the Chargers.
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Speaker 3: So we all know Jeor Brow.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrows had it pretty rough over there in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: He had a press conference yesterday and here's what he
Speaker 2: had to say.
Speaker 4: You know, if I want to I want to keep
Speaker 4: doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know,
Speaker 4: I've been through a lot, and if it's not fun,
Speaker 4: then what am I doing it for?
Speaker 3: Have the Bengals broken? Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: You really don't like when your franchise quarterback who's not
Speaker 1: yet turned thirty says if I want to keep doing this,
Speaker 1: that is, if I'm a Bengal fan. That's a five
Speaker 1: alarm fire, and it is a shocking It's a shocking
Speaker 1: enough quote. I thought about leading the show with it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like you guys, when the Chiefs are down,
Speaker 1: want to hear my chiefs pain and cope. So I
Speaker 1: led with the Chiefs. But Joe Burrow, who you know,
Speaker 1: still has what does he have four years left on
Speaker 1: his massive deal? Yeah, years left on his five year,
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five million dollar contract. Him talking
Speaker 1: about if I want to keep doing this? Uh, I
Speaker 1: I would be lying if I did not say it.
Speaker 1: At least briefly gave me Andrew luck vibes of oh, man,
Speaker 1: has this guy just his body's been through so much.
Speaker 1: He was so close so early, and now the team
Speaker 1: seems to be getting further away that he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not enjoying this.
Speaker 2: Then also seeing his predecessors continuously, you know, make it
Speaker 2: to the postseason and battle it out, and he's had
Speaker 2: to sit out a couple of them, probably.
Speaker 1: Right playoffs in a row. And I also think there
Speaker 1: he is the emotional toll of man. My second year
Speaker 1: in the league, I have the ball in my hands
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl with a chance to go win
Speaker 1: it after beating Mahomes. My third year in the league,
Speaker 1: I have the ball in my hands in Arrowhead with
Speaker 1: a chance to go back to the Super Bowl tie
Speaker 1: game and really vault myself above Patrick been in the
Speaker 1: league three years, made back to back Super Bowls. You
Speaker 1: have it, You've lost to me. And those two moments,
Speaker 1: those two drives where his blocking broke down, by the
Speaker 1: way on both he got hit on the final pass
Speaker 1: of both seasons. In the Chiefs game, he didn't even
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a final pass. Chris Jones just sacked
Speaker 1: him the Rams game. Aaron Dy gets right to him,
Speaker 1: but he's He takes the field in year two in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl saying touchdown, I'm a champion forever. He
Speaker 1: takes the field Year three AFC Championship game field goal,
Speaker 1: I'm back in the Super Bowl and I kind of
Speaker 1: own this Mahomes rivalry. And now we're at the end
Speaker 1: of year six and that was his last playoff touch.
Speaker 1: That's tough. That's like a really And then you add
Speaker 1: to it all of the physical, real weird injuries He's
Speaker 1: dealt with turf tow and the wrist thing, and dealing
Speaker 1: with the different franchise holdouts and contract disputes every year.
Speaker 3: And tragic organization.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, and it is. It is why some people said,
Speaker 1: you know, do an l Way or an ELI and
Speaker 1: don't go there. And so you know, people asking what
Speaker 1: would a Joe Burrow trade look like? I mean, as
Speaker 1: I did on TV yesterday and you know I'll do
Speaker 1: on radio again or on podcast today. To quote Mike Meltzer,
Speaker 1: being in a position where you have to trade prime
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a fold the franchise moment, there is
Speaker 1: no getting around it. But what would a Joe Burrow trade.
Speaker 1: Look like three first and three second rounders. You're first
Speaker 1: because you can. You're only allowed to trade three picks
Speaker 1: in the league, the Daniel says Miles and the Browns picks,
Speaker 1: they would never listen. I don't think they would trade
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. But if they were to, they certainly wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it in the division, which is a bit of
Speaker 1: a shame because the Browns have all the picks. Like
Speaker 1: another team that has, you know, the team that could
Speaker 1: trade you four first round picks other than the Browns
Speaker 1: is the Rams because they have two picks in this
Speaker 1: upcoming draft. But and that would be a really interesting
Speaker 1: one if the Rams did bleep them picks again. But
Speaker 1: that would only make sense if Stafford were retiring after
Speaker 1: this year, you know what I mean, Like they wouldn't
Speaker 1: they You couldn't roster Stafford and Burrow to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: Burrow's gonna sit a year and then take over. So
Speaker 1: the timing of that wouldn't work. But this is if
Speaker 1: I'm a Bengals fan, I am terrified of that press conference,
Speaker 1: terrified of it. And we've seen guys walk away. We
Speaker 1: haven't the only you're way too young to remember this, Demante,
Speaker 1: but the only and he wasn't quite a star at
Speaker 1: this point in his career, but he so, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna tell this story in a different way.
Speaker 1: Once upon a time, and wow, I didn't even think
Speaker 1: about this. Great job, Nick for putting this together in
Speaker 1: real time. Once upon a time, there was a number
Speaker 1: one overall pick quarterback who after seven eight years in
Speaker 1: the league with some it wasn't us. He was not
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows level, don't get me wrong, but one year
Speaker 1: he led the league touchdown passes, finished top five in
Speaker 1: MVP voting. It was actually his second year's probably as
Speaker 1: high water mark went to the playoffs a couple times,
Speaker 1: had disappointing postseason defeats, and one of the postseasons suffered
Speaker 1: a catastrophic injury on right when the first playoff game started. Essentially,
Speaker 1: that player, right after he turned thirty, woke up one
Speaker 1: morning and said, I'm either retiring or you're trading me,
Speaker 1: but I am not taking another snap for this franchise.
Speaker 1: And that number one pick quarterback his name was Carson Palmer,
Speaker 1: and Demons, I'll give you one guess, what franchise do
Speaker 1: you think he played for the chiefs Man. You beleeve
Speaker 1: that that's the worst job you've done in a long time.
Speaker 3: Carson Palmer, No, who did Carson Palmer? The Bengals.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Joe Burrow and the dysfunctional Bengals. And
Speaker 1: I gave this whole story. So I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: have another try. Team the Bangles.
Speaker 3: A good job.
Speaker 1: That was. That was I was really trying to set.
Speaker 1: I know this happened literally when you were a top
Speaker 1: this small child, but I thought I gave you enough context.
Speaker 1: The uh, it was the Bengals. And so the only
Speaker 1: other guy like and I'm Joe has not demanded a trade.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he has.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 2: Sounds like he's closer to demanding a trade than not
Speaker 2: demanding a trade at some point.
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Speaker 2: The Bills are now the favorite to win in the
Speaker 2: AFC after their win over the Bengals, following them with
Speaker 2: the Broncos and the Patriots, but those are obviously younger
Speaker 2: teams with those newer quarterbacks. If Kansas City misses the playoffs,
Speaker 2: who is the favorite to win in the AFC or
Speaker 2: who has the most pressure to win in the AFC.
Speaker 3: Let's say it's the.
Speaker 1: Bill I mean it's not. Yeah, it's the Bills by
Speaker 1: a country mile. Yeah, the Bills have to make the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year. It's not even that's not a
Speaker 1: hot take. That's not complex. It is if they walk
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and the Ravens aren't there, and Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow's not there and Patrick Mahomes isn't there, they have
Speaker 1: to come out of it. They have lost in the
Speaker 1: playoffs to Joe and Patrick five consecutive years. Twenty twenty
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game to Pack, twenty twenty one, thirteen second
Speaker 1: game Divisional Round to Patrick, twenty twenty two in their
Speaker 1: stadium in the snow, to Joe twenty twenty three, Divisional
Speaker 1: Round game in their stadium to Patrick, twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game at Arrowhead to Patrick. If they go
Speaker 1: to the postseason, and standing between them is Bo Knicks,
Speaker 1: is Denver Broncos second year stud first playoff appearance, Drake
Speaker 1: May the Prince and the Jags, a more abund offense
Speaker 1: in Houston who already beat them once, and whoever the
Speaker 1: hell comes out of the AFC North forty two year
Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers in the Steelers and then the Chargers
Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. You have to make the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now demand they would be
Speaker 1: my pick. They've got it. Josh is playing great. This
Speaker 1: is the moment. They would be my pick. Nobody wants
Speaker 1: to play them. Wild is pretending like he's not scared,
Speaker 1: he's petrified, and the it would be It would be
Speaker 1: a catastrophe for Buffalo to not make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And they look listen that the that game they played
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, that's just what they get. It's just gotta
Speaker 1: be Josh Allen, live or die with your bro will
Speaker 1: just you know, crazy rhinoceros Josh Allen, and he looks awesome,
Speaker 1: and he'll the rollercoaster will be back to a degree.
Speaker 1: He'll have some ups and downs. But I they shouldn't
Speaker 1: need here's the here's how I would see it playing out.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't need monster Josh Allen performance to go to
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and win in round one. That should just happen.
Speaker 1: They should just be able to pretty methodically beat them
Speaker 1: round two. And then if the let's just say the
Speaker 1: Seeds hold and you play Denver and New England in
Speaker 1: round two and three, or New England and Denver and
Speaker 1: round two and three, like you know, don't know which
Speaker 1: round round two. Whoever, whenever you play bow Nicks, Josh
Speaker 1: should just be able to make just that's a don't
Speaker 1: make mistakes. See if bo Knicks can you know, make.
Speaker 2: Enough plays, yes, great defense.
Speaker 1: And then against against the Patriots, I think he'd have
Speaker 1: to go superhero. I think he can do it, and
Speaker 1: it's just such a go ahead.
Speaker 3: They're plus three seventy five to on the AFC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes them like co favorites. They're my They're
Speaker 1: my pick right now. And here is the insane thing
Speaker 1: about the NFL this year to last year. Here's the
Speaker 1: full list of monse of teams that won twelve or
Speaker 1: more games last year and their current situation. The Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions currently out of the playoffs, the Kansas City chief
Speaker 1: currently out of the playoffs, the Philadelphia Eagles in the
Speaker 1: midst of a crisis, the Minnesota Vikings awful, the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills pause on them, the Baltimore Ravens disaster, and the
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders season from hell. Seven teams won twelve or
Speaker 1: more games last year. Two of them, Minnesota and Washington,
Speaker 1: are dead. Another two, Kansas City and Baltimore, are hanging
Speaker 1: on for dear life. Detroit is trying to scrape its
Speaker 1: way in, Philadelphia is in the midst of a free fall,
Speaker 1: and Buffalo's sitting right there. It could not be better
Speaker 1: set up for them. And that's why I am not
Speaker 1: taking Josh Allen going to his press conference and saying
Speaker 1: never a doubt as a shot at me. I'm taking
Speaker 1: it as he's trying to usher as much good karma
Speaker 1: as possible. And you know what, I'm good with it.
Speaker 1: You know, if it, if it's gotta be anybody, I'm
Speaker 1: glad it's them. It's actually like, yeah, they deserve it.