1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. The Chiefs are six and seven. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Demosey, Yeah, it's grim. They have lost now four of 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: their last five after that game with Houston. This is 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: the first time I think it kind of looked like 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: the cold was affecting the Chiefs. O. Lione was cook, 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: Kelsey had some drops, Rice had some drops. Mahomes was 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: limping around. Is there any type of silver lining or 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: any type of hope that you're holding on to after 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 2: this last game through the end of the season, all. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: Right, Well, listen, the hope is like, do they have 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: a path to the playoffs? And the answer is yes technically, 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: but and the simplest way to explain their path to 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs and then we'll get into what has happened. 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: But let me just get this out of the way. 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: They have to go for oh, home Chargers at Titans, home, 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: Broncos at Raiders. The Colts can't go three and one. 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: Not worried about that. They're they're there. I mean, they're 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: thinking about starting Philip Rivers. So the Colts part of 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: it to me is easy because the Colts have Seahawks, Niners, Jags, Texans, 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: so the the let's just say the Colts are out 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: and then the Chargers have to go either zero to 24 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: four or one in three, with one of the losses 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: being to Denver in week eighteen. The simplest way to 26 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: look at can the Chiefs make the playoffs is they 27 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: have to beat the Chargers this weekend. They then have 28 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: to beat the Titans, the Broncos and the Raiders, and 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers have to then lose to Denver in week 30 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: eighteen and to either the Texans or the Cowboys in 31 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: week sixteen seventeen. If that happens, the Chiefs make it. 32 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: And when I lay it out that way, I can 33 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: tell by the look on Demand's face it doesn't seem impossible. 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, Chiefs gotta beat the Chargers, the Titans, 35 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: and the Raiders are awful home game against the Broncos. 36 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: They could do it. And then for the Chargers, can 37 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: they lose to Denver in week eighteen and to either 38 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: the Texans or the Cowboys. It's like yeah, oh maybe, 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's possible. The problem is this, as evidenced 40 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: by the Chiefs game Sunday Night. The Chiefs are not 41 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: a reliab team right now, and they lost Sunday Night 42 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: for ten different reasons, and they were all little microcosms 43 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: for what's happened all season long that has put them 44 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: in this position in no particular order, just kind of 45 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: running list right bad special teams for the first time 46 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: of this era. That missed field goal at the end 47 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: of the first half ended up being absolutely brutal, particularly 48 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: because if they were up thirteen to ten instead of 49 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: tied ten to ten, they wouldn't have gone for that 50 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: fourth and one, which then leads me to some very 51 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: shaky situational coaching from Andy. At times, it feels like 52 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: he has been more aggressive than not. It feels like 53 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: he has been way more aggressive than any year than 54 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: years past, yet oddly passive in the Cowboys game when 55 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: both teams are moving the ball up and down the field, 56 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: and then insanely aggressive in the Texans game when that 57 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Texans offense was dead on arrival in the second half, 58 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: like that going for that fourth down when at that 59 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: moment Chris Jones has taken over the game entirely. Is 60 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: I hated it in real time? I don't care what 61 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: the analytical model said the flow of that game, the 62 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Texans were not scoring again and the Chiefs didn't need 63 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: to do that. I love Andy, but that was a miss, 64 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: so that bit them in this game. I mentioned Chris Jones. 65 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: He was unreal in the second half of this football game. 66 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: But the fact that the Chiefs all year long have 67 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: only been able to generate any type of quarterback pressure 68 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: when Chris Jones is dominant is a collective failure. I 69 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: don't know how many times I've talked to Monday about 70 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: third and longs. They gave up a third and sixteen 71 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: in this game they gave up Listen, the third and 72 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: ten that they gave up on the pass interference was shaky, 73 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: but they gave up a third and eight previously, like 74 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: third and long defense was a problem. I'm not Patrick's 75 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: game was odd because obviously the stat line is the 76 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: stat line, and he missed some throws. I also thought 77 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: he had some heroic moments and was the least of 78 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: our problems. But he did throw that pit the second 79 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: pick he threw the one in the second half on 80 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: third and six deep down the field, Hollywood, Brown's open 81 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and he underthrows in the inability to get on the 82 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: same page on the deep ball has been a problem 83 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: all year. And when he has gotten on the same page, 84 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: like the bomb to Taekwan Thornton, the perfect sixty yard pass, 85 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 1: Thornton doesn't reel it in. Kelsey has actually been really 86 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: good this year. He's he's second in I think amongst 87 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Titans and yards and catches. But his bad moments have 88 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: been awful. The drop against Philly that flipped that game, 89 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: the dry against the Texans that ended this game. The 90 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: total inability to have any run game other than from 91 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes aside from Kareem Hunting, the Colts game has 92 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: been a killer. Patrick's led them in rushing four times 93 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: this year, they're owing four in those games all and 94 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: so going into this game, you knew the offensive line 95 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: was a problem. They were down three starters. In the 96 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: first play of the game, one of the backups went down. 97 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: But honestly, the third string kid that came in as 98 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: a pole, I think is how you say his name, 99 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: it's p O l E, but I don't think it's 100 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: pronounced Pole played really well. And the Chiefs game plan, 101 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: knowing it was not the quick, quick quick, they didn't 102 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: lose because the offensive line was in shambles. They lost 103 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: because they haven't executed. And this is this is Demand's 104 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: why I was so adamant all of last year that 105 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I did not care what the advanced stats said that 106 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: that was a great team because winning in the NFL. 107 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: We haven't solved it yet through success rate and EPA 108 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: per play and DVOA. We just haven't. And it's one 109 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: of the beautiful things about pro football is it hasn't 110 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: been sabermetric to the way baseball has, where we just 111 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: know everything. And last year's team, yes, of course there 112 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: were some lucky bounces, and yes, of course there were 113 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: a couple of few wins that could have been losses. 114 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: But overall, that team understood, like a great tennis player 115 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: does the four or five highest leverage leverage moments of 116 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: a match, and that's when they execute their best. This year, 117 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: this Chiefs team has been the exact opposite. And I 118 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: can go. I can Week one, after being thoroughly outplayed, 119 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: you have the Chargers in a third and fifteen to 120 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: get the ball back, and Chris Jones doesn't keep containing 121 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: Herbert runs and you lose. Week two, you're about to 122 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: take the lead on the goal line and Kelsey doesn't 123 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: secure the ball, tips it up and it's intercepted. The 124 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: loss to the Jags. Patrick doesn't see a lurking d 125 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: lineman with a chance to put the game away. It 126 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: gets picked sixth and they lose. The loss. Against the Broncos, 127 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: you have bow Nicks in a third and eight with 128 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: a fourth quarter lead, and you let him complete an 129 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: easy pass over the middle of the field. This has 130 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: happened all year, and the Texans game was no different. 131 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: Fourth and one tie game, ten minutes left, brutal, cold 132 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: arrowhead on fire on your own thirty against a team 133 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: that has not scored in an hour and a half 134 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: of real time, and you ran a play with no 135 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: threat of a run against the best pass Russian football. 136 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: That's how you lose. And so that's just that's just 137 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: where they're at. And I'm not going to where I 138 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: will and I don't know if people want to hear 139 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: this or not where I will give myself credit, I guess, 140 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: but not really credit. This is just more an indictment 141 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: on how other people I think either do sports fandom 142 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: or media. I'm not going to make any of the 143 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: excuses that people made in the other direction when the 144 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs were winning. I'm not good like I'm not blaming 145 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: the reps for the bad pass interference call that it 146 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: led to seven Texans points. Bad calls happen. I'm not 147 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: saying it's bad luck. I'm not saying this is actually, 148 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: deep down a great team. They're not. And I talked 149 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how much content I did after the 150 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys game. You didn't hear You're not. You didn't hear 151 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: me say one thing about the officials, because it's the NFL. Man, 152 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: there's up and down officiating every single week. You bake 153 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: that in. If you're not a loser, you don't create 154 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: a stupid conspiracy theory and you deal with it. And 155 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: that is that's where they're at now. With all that said, Demons, 156 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: if they beat the Chargers on Sunday, a flicker of 157 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: hope return, because I will now there is a very 158 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: real possibility of a cruel circumstance staring at me, which 159 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:33,239 Speaker 1: is because again, nothing if the Chargers beat that. Obviously, 160 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: if the Chargers beat the Chiefs, the Chiefs are dead. 161 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: But the Chargers could lose their next three, And if 162 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: they beat the Broncos, the Chiefs are dead, just dead. 163 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: I think technically there is a different possibility of the 164 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: whole like AFC South imploding, but I don't think that's 165 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: a real like I'm that involves like the Cardinals and 166 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders winning games like that. For all intents and purposes, 167 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: If the Chargers beat the Broncos, the chief season's over 168 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: and that's in week that's in week eighteen, and be obvious. 169 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: So that's the So that's what I've tried to game 170 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: out in my head of do I think it's likely 171 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: the Broncos are not playing for something that week? So 172 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: let's actually, you know what, let's just real quick talk 173 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: this out right now, because what we know is the Broncos. 174 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: Have the rest of their seasons pretty tough too. At 175 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: least right now, we have a super easy. 176 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Well so, but I don't know if that's good for 177 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs or not. So here's the deal. If we're 178 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: assuming obviously none of this matters. If if the Chiefs 179 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: don't beat the Broncos, so that puts the Broncos at 180 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: three losses, we need Denver to be playing for. I can't, 181 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you know what, there's no way to figure this out, 182 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because there's too many unknown 183 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: tiebreakers because Denver and the Patriots didn't play head to head. 184 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Right now, when Denver and the pats are have the 185 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: same record, the Broncos have the tiebreaker. 186 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: But I mean, so you would want them to win 187 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: their next too? 188 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I'm not gonna figure this out. 189 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: It seems like what you're saying. 190 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think. Here's what I But here's 191 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: where I don't. Would wouldn't want them to win their 192 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: next two. I wouldn't want them to win their next too. 193 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: If the Patriots are about to go on a bit 194 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: of a swoon, and then it gives the Broncos the 195 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: possibility of having the one seed locked up going The 196 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: worst case scenario is the Broncos have the one seed 197 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: locked up going into Week eighteen. That's a disaster. The 198 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: So this isn't good podcast content. I'm not going to 199 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: spend more time on this. What I the because I 200 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: can't figure out the exact situation, you know, ramifications, what 201 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: I so? What would be the chiefs? So the point 202 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: that I was trying to make was, after all of 203 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: the trash I've talked on the eleven and two Broncos 204 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: all year if they end up being so good that 205 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: not only do they win the division, but they are 206 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: able to arrest players and that costs the Chiefs a 207 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: spot in the tournament, which again, for that to even 208 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: be a possibility, Kansas City's got to win all of 209 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: the rest of their games. That would be a That'd 210 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: be a cruel mistress, I'll tell you that much, but 211 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to a position they've put themselves in. Now, I do 212 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: want to say one more thing demands before we get 213 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: to the other stuff, which is the how does this 214 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: impact the Mahomes goat stuff? And I'm gonna try to 215 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: do this quickly, but I I don't even think it 216 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: is debatable what I'm about to say. It's just very 217 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: simple kind of how linear time works. Okay, even when 218 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: missing the playoffs this year, if they do, Patrick Mahomes, 219 00:17:52,800 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: by any metric that you choose, stats, wins, posts, in success, championships, 220 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: championship appearances, by any metric, has had the greatest first 221 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: eight years as a starter or first nine years of 222 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: his career of any player in league history, of any quarterback. 223 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: That is not a debate. That is just what the 224 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: numbers are now. Obviously, in his quest to become the goat. 225 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: You have to incorporate two realities. One is the guy 226 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: he's chasing beat him twice in the playoffs and he'll 227 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: never be able to beat him because he's long retired. 228 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: That hurts. And the other one is the guy he's 229 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: chasing played so incredibly long and had such an un 230 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: believable final ten years that it is unrealistic to think 231 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Patrick will play nearly as long as Tom, and so 232 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: he needed and needs to rack up accomplishments early and 233 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: really be ahead of the pace because almost he's I 234 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna playuti least forty five. So all 235 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: of that is just factually true, and so in that regard, 236 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: this season hurts him a lot. But one can acknowledge 237 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: that while also acknowledging that the idea that Tom Brady 238 00:19:52,119 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: or those Pats never had dips or maybe not season 239 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: quite like this, but I'll get to that in a moment, 240 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: is erroneous. Patrick has been a starter for eight years. 241 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's assume they missed the playoffs this year. In those 242 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: eight years, Patrick has more playoff wins eight years. Is 243 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: a starter. Side by side Patrick and Tom, they have 244 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: the same number of Super Bowl wins. Patrick has more 245 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: playoff wins, regular season wins, playoff appearances, regular season MVPs, 246 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVPs. In those eight seasons, Tom missed the 247 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: playoffs twice. Patrick has missed the playoffs potentially once. In 248 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: those eight seasons, there were three years where Tom's team 249 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two years where Tom's team did not win 250 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: a playoff game, and three years where Tom's team did 251 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: not make the conference championship game. And Patrick's eight years. Again, 252 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: assuming they missed the playoffs, there will be one year 253 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: where they didn't want a playoff game and one year 254 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: where they didn't make the conference championship game. Now, people 255 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: listening to this are yelling two things. Well, one of 256 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: those years Tom was hurt. Unfair to use that against him. 257 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: It's totally true, and I'm not using it against him. 258 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: I am simply doing linear time. First eight seasons, here's 259 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: what they did. And while you wouldn't use the year 260 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: he was hurt and they missed the playoffs against him, 261 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: you also certainly are not going to be like that 262 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: helps him, like that that the year he didn't play 263 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: helps him. The other thing people say with regularity is 264 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: well the two year when they missed the playoffs and 265 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: won nine games. Tom wasn't Tom. Okay, I mean, that's 266 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: that's an okay opinion to have, but it is a 267 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: weird opinion to have. If the argument, if you are 268 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: trying to make the argument that through eight years, Tom 269 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: was better, then I don't think you can make the 270 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: argument that year two of that timeline doesn't count because 271 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: year two Patrick was so much better than year two Tom. 272 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense. Now if the argument is at 273 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: the beginning Tom wasn't his fully for himself, and when 274 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: he became his fully for himself, they never had a 275 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: year like this, that is true. That cuts in both directions, though, 276 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: because if you're saying that early Tom doesn't get knocked 277 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: for a nine and seven season because he wasn't really 278 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady yet, then you can't then also be like, 279 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: but all of the accomplishments count with the same way 280 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: he does, Like the super Bowls count for him, the 281 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: misplayoffs isn't counting against him. I'm not gonna do any 282 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: of that. I'm simply gonna line up the eight years 283 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: next to each other and Patrick's first eight years by 284 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: any way you cut it, even with this year included 285 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: outstripped Tom's first eight years. Now, again, the obvious argument 286 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: against that is, yeah, but do you think Patrick's next 287 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: fifteen are gonna look like Tom's. That's gonna be very, 288 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: very difficult, but we're not there yet. And what I 289 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: would also add is this, you know who also didn't 290 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: think their next that the second decade of his career 291 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: was going to look like it did for Tom Brady, 292 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots, because twenty eleven to twenty 293 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: eighteen was the Pats run that comes closest, that actually 294 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: outstrips now this Chiefs run twenty eleven to twenty eighteen. 295 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: So the Patriots had one to seven seven years, three 296 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: four super Bowl appearances, three championships, the Chiefs eighteen to 297 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty five, seven years, five super Bowl appearances, three championships 298 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: the Patriots in that time or eighteen to twenty four, 299 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: I should have said for the Chiefs. Patriots in that 300 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: time missed the playoffs once, didn't make the conference championship 301 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: game two times. The Chiefs miss playoff zero times, didn't 302 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: make the conference championship game zero times. And then there's 303 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: the Patriot run of eleven to eighteen that the Chiefs 304 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: had been chasing eight straight conference championship games, the only 305 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: streak longer than the Chiefs won. Right now, five super 306 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Bowl appearances, same as the Chiefs. Three super Bowl victories, 307 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: same as the Chiefs. If the Chiefs missed the playoffs 308 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: this year, then this eight year run they also went 309 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: to three straight Super Bowls like the Chiefs did, then 310 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: this eight eight year run falls just short of that one. 311 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: But notice the timeline I did demanse was one to 312 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: seven and then eleven to eighteen. And the reason I 313 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: did that, and this is again, if people are interested 314 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: in being having a real discussion about the resume side 315 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: by side, you then have to include that in two 316 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and ten, Tom 317 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Brady and the New England Patriots in those three years 318 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: won a total of zero playoff games. So the only 319 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is, let's assume the Chiefs 320 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs this year in year eight. I mean, 321 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: it's the the symmetry of this is kind of crazy. 322 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, in his seventh year as a starter, walked 323 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: onto the field in the Super Bowl attempting to win 324 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: his fourth championship and cement that team as the greatest 325 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: team in the history of the league. They lost, and 326 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: the next year was a season from hell because Tom 327 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: got his knee blown out in Week one. The next 328 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: year they won ten games and got beat by twenty 329 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: in the wild card round of the playoffs. And the 330 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: next year they were the number one seed and lost 331 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: to Mark Sanchez at home in their first playoff game, 332 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: and then they started the eleven to eighteen eight straight 333 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: conference championship game run. Patrick Mahomes, in his seventh year 334 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: as a starter, walked onto the field trying to win 335 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: his fourth Super Bowl and knowing, if we win this game, 336 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: we are the greatest team of all time. They lost, 337 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: and the following year was a season from hell. He 338 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: didn't get hurt, but it looks like they're going to 339 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs again. If Brady is following the Mahomes timeline, 340 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: If Mahomes is following the Brady timeline, that would mean 341 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't win a playoff game again until twenty 342 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: twenty eight. That the next two years they don't win 343 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: a playoff game. I don't think that's gonna happen. I 344 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: also don't think Patrick's gonna play twenty four years. I 345 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: don't think their careers are going to be identical moving forward, 346 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: but through eight years, it's stunning how similar the overall 347 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: team's success has been. 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Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, 382 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia. 383 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: So we all know Jeor Brow. 384 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: Joe Burrows had it pretty rough over there in Cincinnati. 385 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: He had a press conference yesterday and here's what he 386 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: had to say. 387 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 4: You know, if I want to I want to keep 388 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know, 389 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 4: I've been through a lot, and if it's not fun, 390 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: then what am I doing it for? 391 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: Have the Bengals broken? Joe Burrow? 392 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: You really don't like when your franchise quarterback who's not 393 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: yet turned thirty says if I want to keep doing this, 394 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: that is, if I'm a Bengal fan. That's a five 395 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: alarm fire, and it is a shocking It's a shocking 396 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: enough quote. I thought about leading the show with it, 397 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like you guys, when the Chiefs are down, 398 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: want to hear my chiefs pain and cope. So I 399 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: led with the Chiefs. But Joe Burrow, who you know, 400 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: still has what does he have four years left on 401 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: his massive deal? Yeah, years left on his five year, 402 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five million dollar contract. Him talking 403 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: about if I want to keep doing this? Uh, I 404 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: I would be lying if I did not say it. 405 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: At least briefly gave me Andrew luck vibes of oh, man, 406 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: has this guy just his body's been through so much. 407 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: He was so close so early, and now the team 408 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: seems to be getting further away that he's like, I 409 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: don't I'm not enjoying this. 410 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: Then also seeing his predecessors continuously, you know, make it 411 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: to the postseason and battle it out, and he's had 412 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: to sit out a couple of them, probably. 413 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: Right playoffs in a row. And I also think there 414 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: he is the emotional toll of man. My second year 415 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: in the league, I have the ball in my hands 416 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl with a chance to go win 417 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: it after beating Mahomes. My third year in the league, 418 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: I have the ball in my hands in Arrowhead with 419 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: a chance to go back to the Super Bowl tie 420 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: game and really vault myself above Patrick been in the 421 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: league three years, made back to back Super Bowls. You 422 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: have it, You've lost to me. And those two moments, 423 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: those two drives where his blocking broke down, by the 424 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: way on both he got hit on the final pass 425 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: of both seasons. In the Chiefs game, he didn't even 426 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't even a final pass. Chris Jones just sacked 427 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: him the Rams game. Aaron Dy gets right to him, 428 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: but he's He takes the field in year two in 429 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl saying touchdown, I'm a champion forever. He 430 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: takes the field Year three AFC Championship game field goal, 431 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm back in the Super Bowl and I kind of 432 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: own this Mahomes rivalry. And now we're at the end 433 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: of year six and that was his last playoff touch. 434 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: That's tough. That's like a really And then you add 435 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: to it all of the physical, real weird injuries He's 436 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: dealt with turf tow and the wrist thing, and dealing 437 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: with the different franchise holdouts and contract disputes every year. 438 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: And tragic organization. 439 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: Well, yes, and it is. It is why some people said, 440 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, do an l Way or an ELI and 441 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 1: don't go there. And so you know, people asking what 442 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: would a Joe Burrow trade look like? I mean, as 443 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: I did on TV yesterday and you know I'll do 444 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: on radio again or on podcast today. To quote Mike Meltzer, 445 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: being in a position where you have to trade prime 446 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a fold the franchise moment, there is 447 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: no getting around it. But what would a Joe Burrow trade. 448 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: Look like three first and three second rounders. You're first 449 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: because you can. You're only allowed to trade three picks 450 00:35:54,120 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: in the league, the Daniel says Miles and the Browns picks, 451 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: they would never listen. I don't think they would trade 452 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. But if they were to, they certainly wouldn't 453 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: do it in the division, which is a bit of 454 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: a shame because the Browns have all the picks. Like 455 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: another team that has, you know, the team that could 456 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: trade you four first round picks other than the Browns 457 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: is the Rams because they have two picks in this 458 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: upcoming draft. But and that would be a really interesting 459 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: one if the Rams did bleep them picks again. But 460 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: that would only make sense if Stafford were retiring after 461 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: this year, you know what I mean, Like they wouldn't 462 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: they You couldn't roster Stafford and Burrow to be like, hey, 463 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: Burrow's gonna sit a year and then take over. So 464 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: the timing of that wouldn't work. But this is if 465 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm a Bengals fan, I am terrified of that press conference, 466 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: terrified of it. And we've seen guys walk away. We 467 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: haven't the only you're way too young to remember this, Demante, 468 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: but the only and he wasn't quite a star at 469 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: this point in his career, but he so, I'm just 470 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna tell this story in a different way. 471 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: Once upon a time, and wow, I didn't even think 472 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: about this. Great job, Nick for putting this together in 473 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: real time. Once upon a time, there was a number 474 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: one overall pick quarterback who after seven eight years in 475 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: the league with some it wasn't us. He was not 476 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: Joe Burrows level, don't get me wrong, but one year 477 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: he led the league touchdown passes, finished top five in 478 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: MVP voting. It was actually his second year's probably as 479 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: high water mark went to the playoffs a couple times, 480 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: had disappointing postseason defeats, and one of the postseasons suffered 481 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: a catastrophic injury on right when the first playoff game started. Essentially, 482 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: that player, right after he turned thirty, woke up one 483 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: morning and said, I'm either retiring or you're trading me, 484 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: but I am not taking another snap for this franchise. 485 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: And that number one pick quarterback his name was Carson Palmer, 486 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: and Demons, I'll give you one guess, what franchise do 487 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: you think he played for the chiefs Man. You beleeve 488 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: that that's the worst job you've done in a long time. 489 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 3: Carson Palmer, No, who did Carson Palmer? The Bengals. 490 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Joe Burrow and the dysfunctional Bengals. And 491 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: I gave this whole story. So I'm gonna let you 492 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: have another try. Team the Bangles. 493 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 3: A good job. 494 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: That was. That was I was really trying to set. 495 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,479 Speaker 1: I know this happened literally when you were a top 496 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: this small child, but I thought I gave you enough context. 497 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: The uh, it was the Bengals. And so the only 498 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: other guy like and I'm Joe has not demanded a trade. 499 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he has. 500 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 3: But. 501 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: Sounds like he's closer to demanding a trade than not 502 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: demanding a trade at some point. 503 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 1: Or walking away. So I tough spot man. 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Yeah, it's the Bills by 526 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: a country mile. Yeah, the Bills have to make the 527 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year. It's not even that's not a 528 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 1: hot take. That's not complex. It is if they walk 529 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and the Ravens aren't there, and Joe 530 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: Burrow's not there and Patrick Mahomes isn't there, they have 531 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: to come out of it. They have lost in the 532 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: playoffs to Joe and Patrick five consecutive years. Twenty twenty 533 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game to Pack, twenty twenty one, thirteen second 534 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: game Divisional Round to Patrick, twenty twenty two in their 535 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: stadium in the snow, to Joe twenty twenty three, Divisional 536 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: Round game in their stadium to Patrick, twenty twenty four 537 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game at Arrowhead to Patrick. If they go 538 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: to the postseason, and standing between them is Bo Knicks, 539 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: is Denver Broncos second year stud first playoff appearance, Drake 540 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: May the Prince and the Jags, a more abund offense 541 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: in Houston who already beat them once, and whoever the 542 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: hell comes out of the AFC North forty two year 543 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers in the Steelers and then the Chargers 544 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. You have to make the super Bowl. 545 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now demand they would be 546 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: my pick. They've got it. Josh is playing great. This 547 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: is the moment. They would be my pick. Nobody wants 548 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: to play them. Wild is pretending like he's not scared, 549 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: he's petrified, and the it would be It would be 550 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: a catastrophe for Buffalo to not make the Super Bowl. 551 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: And they look listen that the that game they played 552 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, that's just what they get. It's just gotta 553 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: be Josh Allen, live or die with your bro will 554 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: just you know, crazy rhinoceros Josh Allen, and he looks awesome, 555 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: and he'll the rollercoaster will be back to a degree. 556 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: He'll have some ups and downs. But I they shouldn't 557 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: need here's the here's how I would see it playing out. 558 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: They shouldn't need monster Josh Allen performance to go to 559 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and win in round one. That should just happen. 560 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 1: They should just be able to pretty methodically beat them 561 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: round two. And then if the let's just say the 562 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: Seeds hold and you play Denver and New England in 563 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: round two and three, or New England and Denver and 564 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: round two and three, like you know, don't know which 565 00:44:52,719 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: round round two. Whoever, whenever you play bow Nicks, Josh 566 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: should just be able to make just that's a don't 567 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: make mistakes. See if bo Knicks can you know, make. 568 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: Enough plays, yes, great defense. 569 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: And then against against the Patriots, I think he'd have 570 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: to go superhero. I think he can do it, and 571 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 1: it's just such a go ahead. 572 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 3: They're plus three seventy five to on the AFC. 573 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes them like co favorites. They're my They're 574 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: my pick right now. And here is the insane thing 575 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: about the NFL this year to last year. Here's the 576 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: full list of monse of teams that won twelve or 577 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: more games last year and their current situation. The Detroit 578 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,959 Speaker 1: Lions currently out of the playoffs, the Kansas City chief 579 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: currently out of the playoffs, the Philadelphia Eagles in the 580 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: midst of a crisis, the Minnesota Vikings awful, the Buffalo 581 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: Bills pause on them, the Baltimore Ravens disaster, and the 582 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders season from hell. Seven teams won twelve or 583 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: more games last year. Two of them, Minnesota and Washington, 584 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: are dead. Another two, Kansas City and Baltimore, are hanging 585 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: on for dear life. Detroit is trying to scrape its 586 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: way in, Philadelphia is in the midst of a free fall, 587 00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: and Buffalo's sitting right there. It could not be better 588 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: set up for them. And that's why I am not 589 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: taking Josh Allen going to his press conference and saying 590 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: never a doubt as a shot at me. I'm taking 591 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: it as he's trying to usher as much good karma 592 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 1: as possible. And you know what, I'm good with it. 593 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 1: You know, if it, if it's gotta be anybody, I'm 594 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: glad it's them. It's actually like, yeah, they deserve it.