Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make
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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Donald Trump has been
Speaker 1: indicted related to the twenty twenty election of January sixth.
Speaker 1: This is just coming down. This is breaking news from
Speaker 1: earlier this evening as I speak to you, and this
Speaker 1: was expected. But that doesn't mean it is in a
Speaker 1: shock anyway. Is in a shock to the system, a
Speaker 1: feeling of the full scale weaponization of the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice is underway.
Speaker 2: What really is this?
Speaker 1: Before I even get into the charge, is before I
Speaker 1: get into what they're alleging Donald Trump did here? What
Speaker 1: kind of a country are we if the president of
Speaker 1: the United States Joe Biden, which is just absurd even
Speaker 1: every time I say it out loud. What kind of
Speaker 1: a country are we if he is able to prosecute
Speaker 1: his chief political rival. What kind of a country are
Speaker 1: we if the Republican who is a top contender for
Speaker 1: the presidency face is possible prison time for in the
Speaker 1: case of the documents, for example, in the South Florida
Speaker 1: prosecution federal prosecution of Trump after Hillary Clinton clearly violated
Speaker 1: classified document protocols. There's no question about that. It's a
Speaker 1: matter of public record. And they just said it's too
Speaker 1: important that she not have to face that she's too
Speaker 1: important to face.
Speaker 2: That that was it.
Speaker 1: No greater justification really than that required or given. And
Speaker 1: now we also have a very troubling trend here what
Speaker 1: seems to be the criminalization of legal theories. Now all
Speaker 1: of I've read the whole indictment as I speak to you. Now,
Speaker 1: all of the indictment is to hammer home the following
Speaker 1: that Trump and the people around him were lying about January,
Speaker 1: were lying about the election rather of twenty twenty, and
Speaker 1: that led to January sixth, and so because they were lying,
Speaker 1: their theories of law were therefore irrelevant and even illegal. Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of lawyers put forward things in court that
Speaker 1: they may or may not believe to be true.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: A lot of lawyers try to defend people who are
Speaker 1: accused of murder, and the lawyer believes the guy probably
Speaker 1: did it. We all know this, right, But he puts
Speaker 1: forward the most robust defense he can. And that is
Speaker 1: the system that we have when you're talking about politics
Speaker 1: and elections.
Speaker 2: If they believed or.
Speaker 1: Thought there was even some chance of fraud. They had
Speaker 1: every right, and the indictment does say this, they have
Speaker 1: every right to take it to court and to try
Speaker 1: to challenge it through that process. But they also had
Speaker 1: a reading of law that they thought allowed for a
Speaker 1: different elector.
Speaker 2: Scheme to be put in place.
Speaker 1: Now it didn't work, it didn't happen, and courts very
Speaker 1: well would have entirely shut this thing down had it
Speaker 1: gone through. But to lock people up in prison for this,
Speaker 1: that I think is showing you the darkness that we
Speaker 1: are heading toward as a country. It's one thing to
Speaker 1: say that it was wrong, which of course they believe,
Speaker 1: nothing to say even that it was aggressive as a
Speaker 1: legal theory, but you are going to be locked up
Speaker 1: on a variety of charges federal charges here as a result.
Speaker 1: That is just showing you how full scale.
Speaker 2: The weaponization the dj really is at this point.
Speaker 1: And remember this is the same moment that we're finding
Speaker 1: out about Hunter Biden, the full extent of I should say,
Speaker 1: the Biden crime family. Joe Biden was selling influence to China,
Speaker 1: to Ukrainian oligarchs, a whole bunch of people all over
Speaker 1: the world, effectively selling out his country. This is now
Speaker 1: just no they can pretend they can think, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: so stupid, we can't put it two and two together.
Speaker 2: No, we know what.
Speaker 1: Happened, We know what Hunter Biden was doing. And then
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden gets to get out of jail free card
Speaker 1: because he's his daddy is Joe, and Joe's a Democrat president.
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's a criminal. He's a criminal.
Speaker 1: They can say what they want about, Oh, but addiction
Speaker 1: and oh sympathy and blah blah. No, No, he's a criminal.
Speaker 1: But he's not going to pay any price, it seems.
Speaker 1: I mean, they tried to get him off entirely, but
Speaker 1: I still think he's not going to pay any price
Speaker 1: for what he did because we have a two tier
Speaker 1: justice system. You know, there's a two tier justice system
Speaker 1: that is in place. But I want to say to
Speaker 1: you right now, the same people who have criminalized speech
Speaker 1: or I should say suppressed and wish to criminalize speech
Speaker 1: that they disapprove of, are now criminalizing legal theories. Where
Speaker 1: do you think this ends? At what point is it
Speaker 1: going to be made illegal by dictat of the state
Speaker 1: for you to want to bring a challenge in court
Speaker 1: in the first place, You're not allowed to have that
Speaker 1: position you don't really believe that. You don't really believe
Speaker 1: that a man can't become a woman. How dare you?
Speaker 1: You're engaged in not only hate speech, but you're engaged
Speaker 1: in a conspiracy to defraud trans people of their rights
Speaker 1: because you won't say that a man is actually a woman,
Speaker 1: for example, just coming up with an idea there, What
Speaker 1: makes you think they won't do that? They're totalitarians, you
Speaker 1: see this right? They are totalitarians. That is the nature
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party, is what we are up against now.
Speaker 1: The only limit to their totalitarian impulse is their power.
Speaker 1: How powerful are they? What can they get away with? Well,
Speaker 1: once you start to look at this, once you start
Speaker 1: to get a better sense I think of what's coming,
Speaker 1: you understand very quickly that this is only going to
Speaker 1: get worse. They don't feel chastened by any of this.
Speaker 1: They feel emboldened the fact that, for the first time
Speaker 1: ever ever, we have a president in having his DOJ
Speaker 1: indict his chief political rival, not once, but now twice,
Speaker 1: on top of other indictments that have already happened. When
Speaker 1: does it just become clear this is a farce? How
Speaker 1: can I tell people that they can have any faith
Speaker 1: in our system whatsoever, given what's going on. And then
Speaker 1: there's where I think this is going. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you some of the specific charge just here in a second.
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Speaker 2: Read these out to you now.
Speaker 1: Count one conspiracy to defraud the United States. Count two
Speaker 1: conspiracy to obstruct an official preceding. Count three obstruction and
Speaker 1: attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. And count four conspiracy
Speaker 1: against rights. Conspiracy against rights. Let's take these in reverse order.
Speaker 1: By objecting to the vote count in these states and
Speaker 1: coming up with a legal theory, it was the legal
Speaker 1: theory was incorrect, but it was a legal theory that
Speaker 1: this could happen, that they could change around electors, or
Speaker 1: that they could have Mike Penstey certify. But by doing
Speaker 1: all of these things, they deprived people of their votes,
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. Okay, that's an interesting charge because,
Speaker 1: first of all, how many of you ever even heard
Speaker 1: of a conspiracy to defraud I'm sorry, conspiracy against rights,
Speaker 1: the fraud rights against rights, same idea, And there's a
Speaker 1: vagueness to that, isn't there couldn't I argue that the
Speaker 1: Democrats did exactly that in twenty sixteen with Russia collusion.
Speaker 1: They were trying to deprive all of us of the
Speaker 1: election that we won with Donald Trump's victory then, and
Speaker 1: they tried very hard to do so. Members of the FBI,
Speaker 1: members of the media, they acted in concert to deprive
Speaker 1: us of a free and fair election, and they weaponized
Speaker 1: the state to that end, and nobody was held accountable.
Speaker 1: They deny the twenty sixteen election results, nobody's held accountable.
Speaker 1: Now Here, we are being told that if you objected
Speaker 1: to the two only twenty election results, or you could
Speaker 1: say denied, I'll use them for both whatever. If you
Speaker 1: deny the twenty twenty results, you go to prison, not
Speaker 1: just people involved in it, but also Donald Trump himself.
Speaker 1: This is a very frightening moment for the country because
Speaker 1: we've already seen before a single vote is cast, that
Speaker 1: Democrats are unduly influencing the outcome of this election. We've
Speaker 1: already seen that Democrats are taking actions here that will
Speaker 1: mean that it is effectively impossible to come to the
Speaker 1: conclusion that twenty twenty four is going to be a
Speaker 1: free and fair election.
Speaker 2: It's still twenty twenty three, it's August.
Speaker 1: Just durned August today, and yet this is where we
Speaker 1: are as a country. This is what the Democrats want, apparently.
Speaker 1: And there's something else though here. There's the possibility and
Speaker 1: a certain my hope that Donald Trump will be able
Speaker 1: to fight through all of this and he may be
Speaker 1: able to win election and pardon himself. And I know
Speaker 1: that's the dream right now that a lot of people have,
Speaker 1: or maybe you say the strategy, the hope that a
Speaker 1: lot of people have. But they've assigned an Obama appointed
Speaker 1: judge in DC to oversee this case. What do we
Speaker 1: really think the likelihood is here that they're going to
Speaker 1: let Trump run before this case is brought to bear.
Speaker 1: And how much can we trust a DC jury? I
Speaker 1: know that's almost a silly question, but we will address
Speaker 1: that question because it's critical in all of this.
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Speaker 1: All right now, Donald Trump's not going to get a
Speaker 1: fair trial in DC.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 1: So if they're able to schedule this before the election happens,
Speaker 1: he's going to get a jury that hates him, most likely,
Speaker 1: because it's almost impossible to find even the Republicans, and
Speaker 1: there's almost none of them in d C aren't reliably
Speaker 1: Trump supporters, So how are you going to get.
Speaker 2: Anybody on that jury. It's going to be.
Speaker 1: Easy to have a jury of Democrats and maybe one
Speaker 1: or two never Trumpers from the right.
Speaker 2: You know that's what's gonna end up happening.
Speaker 1: And I have to say, I sit here, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't feel anything but remorse at having to say
Speaker 1: this out loud, or regret that this is where the
Speaker 1: country is. Remorse isn't really the right word, but regret
Speaker 1: or remorse for America. They're going to convict him.
Speaker 2: In DC.
Speaker 1: I think you have to assume they're going to convict him.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, well, it's already over and there's nothing
Speaker 1: to do here, but right now, on this trajectory what
Speaker 1: we see, we got to be honest here, We've got
Speaker 1: to be very clear eyed about what's happening. They are
Speaker 1: likely to convict Donald Trump in this DC trial, things
Speaker 1: like conspiracy to deprive rights. If a jury doesn't like
Speaker 1: them to say, yeah, he was depriving the voters in
Speaker 1: these states.
Speaker 2: Of their rights, they'll go for it.
Speaker 1: You know, they're going to be told all about January
Speaker 1: sixth all over again, and it's gonna be a mess,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, as we know. Look, I think we
Speaker 1: have to prepare ourselves for the very real possibility that
Speaker 1: the Democrats are going to get a conviction here on
Speaker 1: one of these trials, and it's most likely going to
Speaker 1: be this one. Not because Trump is worthy of conviction
Speaker 1: or should be convicted based upon guilt, not because this
Speaker 1: is about the system operating as it should, but rather
Speaker 1: the quite the opposite. This is the weaponization of the system.
Speaker 1: If we believe, as we do, the system has been
Speaker 1: weaponized up to this point, why wouldn't we think they
Speaker 1: would take it all the way? What makes anybody believe
Speaker 1: that they'll back off or that there'll be some justice
Speaker 1: through this?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: It's nothing but injustice, So the way that they see this. Also,
Speaker 1: think about the chilling effect that this has. You bring
Speaker 1: a legal theory for an election, or for anything for
Speaker 1: that matter, that upsets the left and goes after their power.
Speaker 1: Maybe we throw you in prison. We say it's fraud
Speaker 1: because you didn't really believe that theory.
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Speaker 1: understand where we are. Understand that we are in a
Speaker 1: battle for this country and it is going to be
Speaker 1: very tough. There's not a easy pathway forward here, and
Speaker 1: there's not all that much that any of us can
Speaker 1: do as individuals other than stick to our principles, support
Speaker 1: those around us, and support those who out there are
Speaker 1: fighting for us, and hope and pray that somehow, once
Speaker 1: again Donald Trump is able to defeat the odds and
Speaker 1: get around this madness and set it all right. It
Speaker 1: would almost be like a Shakespearean comedy or you know,
Speaker 1: Shakespeare and drama for sure, not a tragedy, because Trump's
Speaker 1: going to win. So that's what we have to hope
Speaker 1: for that Trump is able to and it would be
Speaker 1: amazing think about this win and pardon, and he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to part himself. The OJ just drop all charges,
Speaker 1: although he probably want to part himselves. The future Democrat
Speaker 1: couldn't come in. But you get what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: only way through is to win.
Speaker 2: That's the real answer.
Speaker 1: Got to find a way to win, take power away
Speaker 1: from the lunatic Democrat communists, and pray for this country
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