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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Savannah Humoler, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: And Mickey Spagnola makes a grand entrance just as his
Speaker 3: name is announced here on Mick Shots on a Wednesday
Speaker 3: here at the Star in Frisco inside the SWBC podcast studio. Savannah,
Speaker 3: you like the grand entrance? He like Mickey timed it
Speaker 3: just perfectly.
Speaker 4: Honestly, he's really good at it. He's gotten it down.
Speaker 5: Bill start without Bill's voice. Bill's voice sounds.
Speaker 3: Different from a Champagne voice.
Speaker 5: There you go, you go.
Speaker 2: He walked down there with the cup.
Speaker 4: Did you break the goggles? Did you wear the goggles?
Speaker 3: I know I brought him with me, but they looked
Speaker 3: too weird.
Speaker 2: Especially since he had to go out on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah afterwards, right after Yeah, yeah, but it was an
Speaker 3: exciting night field.
Speaker 6: I saw you. You were out there in the mix.
Speaker 3: Uh huh. Yeah. They have a uh this is good planning.
Speaker 3: When they built that ball. Yes, they built a celebration
Speaker 3: room along a celebration clubhouse to go along with a
Speaker 3: home and visitors club.
Speaker 7: We're sitting there watching that, and I go, why is
Speaker 7: everybody running walking down the right field line, like, oh,
Speaker 7: I got a special room to go to.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been in their clubhouse you would understand
Speaker 3: why they're not going to spray champagne around that clubhouse.
Speaker 3: Jerry wouldn't want to spray campaign around this locker room.
Speaker 2: Right well after, let me take that back.
Speaker 3: Shut you up perfectly for that one. Right Well, here
Speaker 3: we are on a Wednesday, and it's not a normal
Speaker 3: Wednesday because we've got Monday Night football this week, an
Speaker 3: extra day. You think they need an extra day?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, this is not you think so I think.
Speaker 6: I think after getting your ass kicked like that, you
Speaker 6: want back out, I want back at.
Speaker 3: You want a Thursday game after that?
Speaker 5: I was on a Thursday game.
Speaker 2: So not after the race Thursday game.
Speaker 6: I erase it, Savannah, erase it as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2: But not after you lose Monday.
Speaker 5: Well, if I'm not playing the same.
Speaker 7: Team, no, I'm saying you lose Monday because they got
Speaker 7: to bed probably at five or six.
Speaker 3: You lose the day Monday.
Speaker 5: Once again, there's no money now the fact that is
Speaker 5: not the fact.
Speaker 2: It is for your body.
Speaker 3: That's one of the great things about baseball. They play
Speaker 3: a game again tomorrow and typically you know, so if
Speaker 3: you get blown out fifteen to one in a game,
Speaker 3: then you're coming back out tomorrow and you might win.
Speaker 2: So you need to remember that there's twelve games left.
Speaker 2: That's right, get that game. You gotta flush it.
Speaker 8: Well, I just think they need more time because the
Speaker 8: Chargers are coming off a bye, so they just need
Speaker 8: a little bit more time to reset and prepare.
Speaker 3: They need more time because they got to figure out
Speaker 3: who's going to be on this roster at linebacker, which
Speaker 3: leads us to stap the news of the day. They're
Speaker 3: looking at linebackers.
Speaker 7: Well, obviously you need bodies, right Who did you see
Speaker 7: that they looked at?
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: The one I'm intrigued by is Rashaun Evans, former first
Speaker 3: round draft pick out of Alabama.
Speaker 2: And what's he doing?
Speaker 3: What's he a? Well, he's unemployed right now. It might
Speaker 3: be employed by the end of the day. So even
Speaker 3: if he looks good.
Speaker 7: If even if he's employed, oh what's he doing on
Speaker 7: the field? And no I'm saying it'll take him two
Speaker 7: weeks before he's ready to play.
Speaker 3: I'll have to look up exactly what if he's been
Speaker 3: with a team or.
Speaker 2: Like, did he go to training camp and get cut?
Speaker 2: I got to look it up because baseball, that would
Speaker 2: be halfway through.
Speaker 7: Vander Esher's stay at on the practice I mean on
Speaker 7: i R.
Speaker 3: So is his shortest stay on IR. There's no guarantee
Speaker 3: he's coming back.
Speaker 7: I mean sure for yeah, four games. So he misses
Speaker 7: this one game following the buy and then probably two more.
Speaker 8: He was most recently with the Eagles on their practice
Speaker 8: squad in September.
Speaker 4: And was released. There you go four days after signing.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Does that have a date when he was released?
Speaker 5: I was trying to tune you guys out, but that
Speaker 5: kind of caught year too.
Speaker 3: Uh. And by the way, the Morning News is reporting
Speaker 3: that the Cowboys are expected to sign Rashawn Evans following
Speaker 3: today's workout. A person with knowledge of the situation said,
Speaker 3: roster move is pending a physical okay.
Speaker 5: That that is.
Speaker 3: That may be a reason why he has not caught on.
Speaker 3: There may be something going on with an ongoing injury
Speaker 3: situation with him. He is a veteran player and is
Speaker 3: a linebacker, and linebackers get hurt.
Speaker 7: Right, and they need depth at linebacker because now you're
Speaker 7: one injury away from nobody basically, or the guy they
Speaker 7: what was the guy they signed to the practice squad?
Speaker 7: Jones Kel Michel Jones Jones, I don't know much about mckel.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: We talked about him a little bit last week. He's
Speaker 3: from Syracuse and he is not a high draft like
Speaker 3: a Rashaun Evans. The other linebackers reportedly that the Cowboys
Speaker 3: had in for a workout, Jordan Evans out of the
Speaker 3: University of Oklahoma, Brandon Smith, and Tanner Vaejo, who has
Speaker 3: been a special teamer throughout his career.
Speaker 2: Any of that gets you, well.
Speaker 3: You need you need?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this. Did you get excited
Speaker 3: when Evan Carter got called up to the major Yes?
Speaker 2: Because I knew about it.
Speaker 3: Oh you did?
Speaker 5: Okay, you don't know about these guys?
Speaker 3: No, No, Evan Carter wasn't a first round drafting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but he was tearing up the minor leagues and
Speaker 7: they couldn't wait to bring him up.
Speaker 6: Did in the COVID pandemic kind of interrupt his the
Speaker 6: start of his career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that was his rookie year.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you here. You're so well rounded.
Speaker 5: Ever so I'm so Dallas man. The come on me
Speaker 5: and you man, come on, come on? You went to?
Speaker 5: Which bring you went to? You went to? Vanilla iceis school?
Speaker 5: Come on man.
Speaker 3: As we related it to the Rangers, this relates to
Speaker 3: the Cowboys and the current situation with the Cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 3: the Rangers are sitting here, they are advanced to the
Speaker 3: American League Championship Series, and in all likelihood their opponent
Speaker 3: is going to be the San Francisco forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3: In other words, the Houston Astros. In all likelihood, if
Speaker 3: the Astros win one of the next two games against Minnesota,
Speaker 3: they are facing the Astros in the American League Championship Series.
Speaker 2: Well, we had what happened week.
Speaker 5: We already called them out, so they must we must play.
Speaker 3: What happened last month when the Rangers played the Astros
Speaker 3: at home early September, they got beat. They got swept
Speaker 3: by the Astros three games by a combined score of
Speaker 3: almost forty two to ten. It was thirty nine to ten.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: What happened after that well, and then the next day
Speaker 3: they put their cleanup hitter Adolas Garcia. They're Leyton vander Esch,
Speaker 3: they put on the injured list. Okay, they called up
Speaker 3: aw a just turned twenty one year old outfielder who
Speaker 3: spent most of this season right across the street over
Speaker 3: here playing for the Double A Frisco Roughriders, and he
Speaker 3: basically turned their season around. Hitting in the ninth hole
Speaker 3: in the batting order. He's hit three twenty with six homers,
Speaker 3: seven doubles in a triple in the last month and
Speaker 3: now they're hitting even the five to five going into
Speaker 3: the American League Championships.
Speaker 5: Here and he's being he's still doing well.
Speaker 3: Right Here's a Okay, that's a baseball analogy, but I
Speaker 3: think it relates to what this Cowboys team has facing
Speaker 3: it right now. Just because you got beat by the
Speaker 3: team that is. I mean, if the Astros go win
Speaker 3: one of these next two games, this will be their
Speaker 3: seventh straight American League Champmpionship series that they played in.
Speaker 3: And you got to started and you just got blown
Speaker 3: out by them thirty nine to ten, and now you've
Speaker 3: come back and you're waiting on them or somebody else
Speaker 3: in what would be the NFC Championship game in the
Speaker 3: Cowboys case. You can turn this thing around.
Speaker 2: You can turn it around, and they better start On
Speaker 2: one day night I.
Speaker 6: Heard about this Astros team they they approached. I didn't
Speaker 6: know anything about this there it's the cheap analytical approach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that was part of what I saw.
Speaker 6: I don't know why they had to cheat, because they
Speaker 6: kind of changed the game, didn't they in regards to
Speaker 6: how you recruited and how you how you run a
Speaker 6: baseball team. They talked about how they kind of use
Speaker 6: analytics now in regards to how they judge their talent
Speaker 6: and how they call games, how they put together their
Speaker 6: team and all of that, and that's what allowed them
Speaker 6: to make the Guy the World Series.
Speaker 5: What four times?
Speaker 3: They four times in the last six years since the
Speaker 3: Rangers got bad, the Astros and even after.
Speaker 6: They got busted, even they got busted, they still came back.
Speaker 3: And they've had losses in free agency and they've got players.
Speaker 2: So you know how.
Speaker 7: They they inspect the pitchers when they come in, you know,
Speaker 7: check their hands, they're under their belt. Do they go
Speaker 7: into the Astro Astros dug out and see if they
Speaker 7: got any drums in there, empty cans.
Speaker 2: They're anywhere.
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Speaker 8: Brad Pitt. Yes, yes, great movie.
Speaker 6: And so that's the connection because they're the ones that
Speaker 6: really started that type of analytics, type of of of analysis,
Speaker 6: and so they followed that through. They don't have old
Speaker 6: baseball guys. Now they've got Wall Street guys. You know,
Speaker 6: they got money guys. They got people in there that
Speaker 6: they're they're more analytics than they are sports guys. So
Speaker 6: a guy like Bochie, I don't know if he would
Speaker 6: even he couldn't, he couldn't make it.
Speaker 3: And the beauty about the Rangers is they've got Highland
Speaker 3: Park's own as their general manager, Chris Young. He is
Speaker 3: he is a baseball guy and an analytics guy. He's
Speaker 3: Princeton educated and but he played fourteen years in the
Speaker 3: major leagues.
Speaker 5: Is a picture nice combination.
Speaker 3: And so he also played for Bruce Bochie and so
Speaker 3: a year ago right now, he's the guy that he
Speaker 3: targeted to be the manager of this.
Speaker 6: So that's probably why he feels comfortable with Dusty Baker,
Speaker 6: because Dusty Baker, he's boutsy that they both went on
Speaker 6: the side right.
Speaker 2: So to get this back to the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Ye, back to the Cowboy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, has to make us connection connection, trying to inspire
Speaker 6: this team if the Cowboys, If the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Win a Divisional round playoff game, are people going to
Speaker 7: be crying?
Speaker 9: All?
Speaker 7: I hear? That's how the Rangers fans were crying after this. Yeah,
Speaker 7: got a little ways to go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well but they made it though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if they make it to the Cowboy.
Speaker 2: No it's not the championship.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it'll be the NFC check if you win
Speaker 6: the NFE.
Speaker 3: I will I will make this admission about sports tears
Speaker 3: when the Rangers. Of course, I grew up here as
Speaker 3: Everson did. When the Rangers in twenty ten made it
Speaker 3: to the World Series, I was in the auxiliary press
Speaker 3: box at the Old Ballparks at outon left field, and
Speaker 3: I'm making my way to do all the postgame interviews
Speaker 3: and stuff. It's they're going into the ninth inning and
Speaker 3: it's obvious, Okay, they're about to beat the Yankees to
Speaker 3: advance to their first ever World Series, and.
Speaker 2: I had it.
Speaker 3: I was filled with emotion as I went out onto
Speaker 3: the field to do those interviews because of you know,
Speaker 3: just think of all this is what's great about sports,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's for Cowboys fans. I can see
Speaker 3: it with Cowboys fans whill follow this team for years
Speaker 3: and years if they ever get to a point now
Speaker 3: again that to go back to a super Bowl for
Speaker 3: the first time and well, you know it's it's just
Speaker 3: you guys, but it's the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the NFC title game, right.
Speaker 6: Well, I think I think in REGARDSSA just an accomplishment.
Speaker 6: In regardss of just an accomplishment you not just fans,
Speaker 6: but you as reporters. You know, you guys are kind
Speaker 6: of closer to it than the rest of us, are,
Speaker 6: you know. I mean you've been interviewing them through all
Speaker 6: those losses, losses, losses. Now you get to go down
Speaker 6: here and interview them because they won, and so you know,
Speaker 6: the emotion is going to be in that's going to
Speaker 6: be in that room and you can't help but be
Speaker 6: touched by it.
Speaker 7: Did you tear up when the Cowboys after fifteen years
Speaker 7: finally went back to a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: I probably did.
Speaker 5: I was not tear and that was I think I
Speaker 5: got cuts.
Speaker 3: I wasn't too how about Okay, did you cheer up? Ever, so,
Speaker 3: did you tear up when you want a Super Bowl with.
Speaker 5: The do There's no doubt about it. Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 6: Ultimately, No, I teared up so much. They asked me
Speaker 6: my question, my first question.
Speaker 5: I'm on the podium. I'm ready to have my moment.
Speaker 6: I teared up after the first question. I looked up there,
Speaker 6: I ran to LT I was done. There was nobody
Speaker 6: else in front of me. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: well that was my moment. Yeah, that was it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that was it.
Speaker 5: But nov away from.
Speaker 2: You teared up at a sports moment.
Speaker 8: Ever, trying to think back, probably you had a reason to,
Speaker 8: let's put it.
Speaker 4: To be honest, I don't think I have. I'm waiting
Speaker 4: for it. There you go, I'm waiting for it. It'll
Speaker 4: come one of these days.
Speaker 5: She's born too soon.
Speaker 2: Now, I'll admit. I'll admit.
Speaker 7: When the White Sox won the World Series in two
Speaker 7: thousand and five in Houston, by the way, that was
Speaker 7: the first thing they won in my lifetime and my
Speaker 7: father's lifetime.
Speaker 2: So think about that.
Speaker 5: That's the most.
Speaker 7: And it teared up because I'm thinking, Okay, Dad, you
Speaker 7: passed away two years too soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's what drives the tears, is the
Speaker 3: I mean, it becomes a part of your your family,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's a yeah, it's a recreational thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's you do it in your leisure time. But I
Speaker 3: have more text on my phones regarding sports than anything else,
Speaker 3: you know, family members or friends or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just part of your everyday life that you're that
Speaker 3: you live and like in for instance, on that time
Speaker 3: with the with the baseball in twenty ten, I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about all those summer days where the baseball is on
Speaker 3: the radio and going to a Ranger game only three thousand.
Speaker 5: You remember all the losses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you remember painful.
Speaker 8: I've had sad tears, but not happy tears.
Speaker 6: Well, those losses they lead to the happy teams because
Speaker 6: you you it's the pain that you went through that
Speaker 6: brings on the joy.
Speaker 5: I mean that's just to me, that's pretty pretty connected.
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Speaker 3: All right, more on this. Rashawn Evans, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 3: to convince you, Mickey.
Speaker 7: All right, tell me this is this guy gonna come
Speaker 7: in and play better than Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: No, rather, well then that's my lineback.
Speaker 3: That's quite he could free up. He said, to do
Speaker 3: what Mike.
Speaker 5: We were ways better MICHAEH.
Speaker 2: Parsons.
Speaker 3: I would compare. I'm comparing him with Layton vander Esh.
Speaker 7: I think vander ash is leading the team in tackles
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 3: Rashaun Evans led the Atlanta Falcons in tackles last year,
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty nine tackles.
Speaker 2: Then he started, well, that's the question, that's.
Speaker 3: The question, don't I don't know without forgether research, if
Speaker 3: he's coming off an injury, or maybe his salary demands
Speaker 3: were such that he didn't want to play for whatever
Speaker 3: was being offered out there to an inside linebacker. He
Speaker 3: is twenty seven years old. He is, let's see, what
Speaker 3: would that be, three months older than Layton. He was
Speaker 3: a first round pick number twenty two overall in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: the year before Leyton was the nineteenth overall pick in
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and out of Alabama. He started four years
Speaker 3: with the Tennessee Titans and then last year with the
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, leading them in tackles with one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty nine tackles.
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds good.
Speaker 3: I like all that. Yeah, And if he is healthy,
Speaker 3: Cowboys might have hit on something here. But if he's not,
Speaker 3: then we keep searching.
Speaker 5: Now, this is the guy that just got cut, right.
Speaker 3: Well, he was signed to the Eagles practice squad on
Speaker 3: September twelfth and was released three days later. That's the
Speaker 3: curious thing.
Speaker 2: So that's the So he was there for this season opener.
Speaker 3: Or right after, right, he was one of those what
Speaker 3: date did I say?
Speaker 2: Septemmber?
Speaker 3: So the week after, so he was he was one
Speaker 3: of those that you won't have for guarantee the salary. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: And so he signed day after basically the week after
Speaker 3: the first game, and then three days later. It might
Speaker 3: have been his own choice that he asked to leave.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to be on the practice squad, could be.
Speaker 3: Hoping that there would be better offers out there. So Houston,
Speaker 3: So what's Nate in Houston doing? Well?
Speaker 6: Nate was trying to equate the yeah, he's this is
Speaker 6: this is this is that, this is that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But what he was trying to.
Speaker 2: Say was yeah, I know, that's what I said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not really.
Speaker 7: It would be like the Cowboys winning the Division round
Speaker 7: playoff game going to the.
Speaker 5: NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's where they're going.
Speaker 5: All right, But Nate got it now that.
Speaker 7: Mickey, I don't think there'll be any cowboy tears if
Speaker 7: they ever got that far, they'd be shooting guns up
Speaker 7: in the air.
Speaker 3: What's on your cowboy's mind?
Speaker 2: Well, Michael Parsons is see what they're going to do
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 5: I don't mind. I don't mind him being that linebacker.
Speaker 2: No, I think that's where he should be.
Speaker 5: You always did think that.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to double team a linebacker.
Speaker 6: But what do you say about him being on the
Speaker 6: defensive line and making the plays that he makes.
Speaker 2: Well, he hardly made a play this last game. They
Speaker 2: are in race time.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I was the same main one fussing about it.
Speaker 6: I remember talking about the play.
Speaker 7: But and he got a race by Arizona. Too interesting,
Speaker 7: think about it.
Speaker 2: The two teams that ran for two hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: two yards and one hundred and seventy seven.
Speaker 5: Yards, and he was playing defensive end pretty much.
Speaker 2: Pretty much the whole time.
Speaker 7: Now, There was a couple of plays in this last
Speaker 7: game they had a five man front, and he was like,
Speaker 7: they used to stand the strong side linebacker on the
Speaker 7: line of scrimmat and I saw them do that.
Speaker 2: A couple of times, right, which.
Speaker 7: You know he's not as susceptible to double teams on
Speaker 7: that part of the deal because you're going to double
Speaker 7: demark Lawrence and him.
Speaker 2: You know he can't do both. Somebody's going to be free.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's why Hankins was getting mad and balls down
Speaker 7: at three hundred and thirty pounds.
Speaker 6: I was wondering what would the Chargers think the Cowboys
Speaker 6: would do with Parsons? If I see what forty nine
Speaker 6: ers did, if I see what the Cardinals did, yeah,
Speaker 6: running up the middle successfully, then I would anticipate that
Speaker 6: it's about time that we put Parsons in the middle
Speaker 6: as opposed to put him on the line.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure they'll know because somebody here will tip
Speaker 7: it off, right and just keep reading the paper or
Speaker 7: listening to our podcasts.
Speaker 6: So if we're making this adjustment, now, are we making
Speaker 6: adjust for the injury? Were making it because of strategy,
Speaker 6: Because if that's the case, sometimes we need to make
Speaker 6: that adjustment doing the game.
Speaker 7: Well, how about just playing three linebackers sometimes that's what
Speaker 7: I'm saying instead of a safety.
Speaker 3: So let's say, yeah, let's say that Layton was still healthy.
Speaker 3: What what would you propose How would you propose the
Speaker 3: base defense be for the Cowboys?
Speaker 7: Sort of like they did his rookie year before they
Speaker 7: lost Randy Gregory. By the way, I don't think he
Speaker 7: was in San Francisco either during the game.
Speaker 5: No, No, he's he's going to play next week.
Speaker 7: He had to go back and get his stuff. Oh
Speaker 7: you know who I saw. Got to shake hands with
Speaker 7: Anthony Brown.
Speaker 5: Oh cool.
Speaker 3: He got in for a couple of plays.
Speaker 7: He was in good spirits, and I said, how you
Speaker 7: do it is because we talked. We talked about we
Speaker 7: talked about No that was before. Yeah, we talked about
Speaker 7: torn achilles And I said, I told you, no, I
Speaker 7: already had when he had to when he first had it,
Speaker 7: I said, He said, it was very difficult coming back.
Speaker 2: He goes, now I'm back.
Speaker 7: I got to get on the field and evident how
Speaker 7: many he got a couple?
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, he did. I think it was maybe one
Speaker 3: on one on defense and one on special special teams.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so while you're looking that up, I still want
Speaker 6: I want to know. I was going to head to
Speaker 6: a question, I mean, who who are they going to
Speaker 6: put on the d line in place of Parstons while
Speaker 6: Parson is lining up at linebacker?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you got two snaps to.
Speaker 8: Mount Clark, Dorn Armstrong, Darren Tompstrong.
Speaker 7: I mean, you've got Dorn Armstrong, you got Sam Williams,
Speaker 7: you got DeMarcus Lawrence and Dante Fowler.
Speaker 2: So you got two guys on.
Speaker 7: Each end that you could rotate at a defensive end.
Speaker 7: And you know, Darence is pretty good against the run,
Speaker 7: Lawrence is pretty good against the run. The other guys
Speaker 7: are kind of designated pass rushers.
Speaker 5: Dawrence how many sacks? Eight and a half, That's what
Speaker 5: I thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so and had two in the first game this year,
Speaker 3: but shut out since then. Since then he durrence by Okay,
Speaker 3: So just give you an example against as far as snapcounts,
Speaker 3: Dorn's Armstrong lat against San Francisco had twenty three snaps
Speaker 3: on defense. Sam Williams had twenty, Dante Fowler had thirteen,
Speaker 3: and DeMarcus Lawrence had thirty four, while Marca Micah had
Speaker 3: fifty nine. Yeah, and Layton had fifty eight.
Speaker 6: So we're still looking even though Parson's going to be
Speaker 6: moved to linebacker, we're still looking at only two linebackers
Speaker 6: in the game.
Speaker 7: Well, if that's the way they're going to play it,
Speaker 7: I mean, that's the way they've been playing it. And
Speaker 7: then I saw this little interesting stat.
Speaker 3: Also point out on these snapcounts. Those lower snapcounts against
Speaker 3: San Francisco for those edge guys, and a lot to
Speaker 3: do with the way San Francisco plays offense. With a
Speaker 3: fullback on the field. Moone Clark was on the field
Speaker 3: more snap twenty more snaps this game went than he
Speaker 3: was against New England. He was on the field for
Speaker 3: forty six snaps because of not only the fullback on
Speaker 3: the field plus tighty ends for San Francisco, but also
Speaker 3: the nature of the game.
Speaker 2: And plus vander esh didn't play the whole game.
Speaker 3: They well, he played fifty eight snaps and Parsons played
Speaker 3: fifty nine, so he would played them all the way
Speaker 3: into the fourth quarters.
Speaker 5: Right, you just just run the ball.
Speaker 3: Right, and with the league with the lead, they're not.
Speaker 7: And I just saw this in Week one, the Chargers
Speaker 7: rushed for two hundred and thirty three yards against the
Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns and the Atlson Eckler anchored by Austin Eckler
Speaker 7: one hundred and seventeen.
Speaker 3: Injured, and.
Speaker 7: There we go, and it says here since then the
Speaker 7: Chargers rushing game has it been as affected with no
Speaker 7: rusher eclipsing one hundred yards.
Speaker 3: And guess who's coming back this week?
Speaker 7: And this past week the team amassed one hundred and
Speaker 7: fifty five yards on the ground and Eckler says ninety
Speaker 7: nine percent sure he's playing on Monday night.
Speaker 4: Here goes nothing.
Speaker 7: So when you ask what do you think the Chargers
Speaker 7: are going to do, They're going to test that run
Speaker 7: game for sure, especially when you're leading tacklers not out there.
Speaker 6: And you saw not just like you said, the Cardinals
Speaker 6: did it as well with the quick little running back
Speaker 6: we were talking about with well, not quick little running back,
Speaker 6: but the wide receiver that at the inside handoff on
Speaker 6: us and took it to the house. That's an Ekler plays. Yeah,
Speaker 6: with the way Arizona did it, but that's the way
Speaker 6: Ekla played.
Speaker 7: And I don't know if they've got a wide receiver
Speaker 7: they're going to hand the ball to like Deebo Samuel,
Speaker 7: but that caused some problems too. Then, as a matter
Speaker 7: of fact, the playoff game, was he the one that
Speaker 7: scored the rushing touchdown? They're only touchdown in that game?
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the playoff game.
Speaker 7: I want to say it was it was McCaffrey, but
Speaker 7: maybe it was McCaffrey and Deebo ran for one the
Speaker 7: year before, but Deebo.
Speaker 3: I didn't know killing more called running plays though.
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything about.
Speaker 3: When we're looking ahead to the Chargers.
Speaker 7: Oh, I see they have somebody else's the run game coordinator.
Speaker 2: He just call calls the pass place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was with the number.
Speaker 2: Five offense in the league.
Speaker 8: By the way, Cowboys are seventeenth.
Speaker 2: They fell. Hmmm, what's the word precipitably? Precipitably, precipitously, precipitously.
Speaker 5: Thank you? That wasn't it.
Speaker 7: That's why I said, is that how you say it?
Speaker 7: I had no confidence in myself.
Speaker 3: He is a mood.
Speaker 6: He reminded me of my dad, Like when I was
Speaker 6: asking him a question, will yell the answer, I'll just
Speaker 6: tune out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Chargers, the Chargers have the sixth six.
Speaker 2: Sixth rank passing offense. By the way own clock, It's right,
Speaker 2: Mickey's I could have told you that.
Speaker 5: Just tune out when he starts talking to me like that.
Speaker 2: I could have told you that.
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Speaker 3: All Right, well, how things doing on the text line
Speaker 3: over there?
Speaker 8: You know, I actually can't say she's been looking at
Speaker 8: We have not been blogged into the text line today.
Speaker 3: Goodness, there's there's people on that that are on that
Speaker 3: text machine who are wondering, why isn't she reading my text?
Speaker 12: By the way, stops today?
Speaker 5: Uh huh.
Speaker 7: By the way, this is sort of it's a Wednesday,
Speaker 7: but this is sort of the Cowboys Monday like day
Speaker 7: after a game because yesterday was a day off.
Speaker 2: Uh, Monday got washed out.
Speaker 7: Uh so they were at the late game on Sunday night,
Speaker 7: so they were out there. I saw the defense anyway
Speaker 7: out there doing their normal Monday kind of loosen up
Speaker 7: type stuff on the cords. By the way, the resistant
Speaker 7: chords why Thomas and Cavante Turpin, and I thought, from
Speaker 7: Turpin's standpoint, being able to do those steps on the
Speaker 7: resistance card was a step in the right direction. And
Speaker 7: I was told that he's day to day, so that's
Speaker 7: kind of encouraging when he didn't finish the game with
Speaker 7: the ankle injury.
Speaker 3: Especially when you consider I think it was on Monday morning,
Speaker 3: there was some report out there that he was going
Speaker 3: to be out for like a month with a high
Speaker 3: ankle spreads weeks, yeah, four to six weeks.
Speaker 2: He was four to six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was before anybody said anything here before it
Speaker 3: was Monday morning, and I can't remember who reported it,
Speaker 3: and of course it gets out there on social media
Speaker 3: and it becomes fact.
Speaker 2: That's right, all of a sudden, we could throw somebody
Speaker 2: under the bus.
Speaker 3: And that's why eyebrows were raised when McCarthy at his
Speaker 3: press conference on Monday said there's a chance he could
Speaker 3: be back in practice this week, and because what wait
Speaker 3: a second, there was there was a report that you
Speaker 3: have to go on with a high ankle spray.
Speaker 5: Well the coach must be wrong.
Speaker 2: Or sandbagging, but that's no sandbagging. When you can do
Speaker 2: those things on the resistance, well, that's very encouraging. Yeah
Speaker 2: see there I got encouraging.
Speaker 6: You know, it's just so weird when injuries are so
Speaker 6: prevalent these days. And not to sound like the old
Speaker 6: get off my lawn, old man, but I just remember
Speaker 6: standing beside two tall Jones pretty much every game of
Speaker 6: my entire career, and.
Speaker 3: You were playing sixteen game seasons. We're not going back
Speaker 3: to twelve games fourteen I was thinking before. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: back in nineteen sixty they played ten game seasons, and
Speaker 3: so you're playing seven more games a season than they
Speaker 3: did fifty or sixty years ago. But in about nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy seven when it went to a sixteen game season,
Speaker 3: and so throughout your career as a sixteen game season,
Speaker 3: and you didn't see the injuries, the number of injuries.
Speaker 3: It seems like that what we have now, and we.
Speaker 6: We we participated in preseason games as well, and very
Speaker 6: different return.
Speaker 5: By the way, Hey, where'd that come from?
Speaker 3: A Cowboys media guy? For those of you not.
Speaker 6: Watching, somebody sneaky. I think it was Nathaniel from Frisco.
Speaker 6: Uh huh San Francisco. Yeah, but I just do recall
Speaker 6: every time I looked in that huddle it was Mike Hagman,
Speaker 6: two Tall Jones, Randy White, Michael Downs.
Speaker 5: You know my strong.
Speaker 6: Safeties, you know, Dexter and Charlie would would be often injured,
Speaker 6: but for the most part, those guys were always in
Speaker 6: the huddle.
Speaker 5: Is it something I'm missing?
Speaker 3: Well, one thing, Well, the rules are different as far
Speaker 3: as injured reserve now okay, and in fact, they just
Speaker 3: changed kind of started with COVID. It's they changed where
Speaker 3: you can go on injured reserve for only four weeks,
Speaker 3: and back then you were done if.
Speaker 5: You they they were never uninjured reserve. The right guys back.
Speaker 2: When he was playing in reserve, you could come back.
Speaker 5: They were never injured.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, they abused it so
Speaker 7: badly to stash people.
Speaker 2: Cannot come back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you couldn't come back because back then they would
Speaker 7: send an independent doctor to check on guys to see
Speaker 7: if they were practicing.
Speaker 6: So are they running that much harder? Are they hitting
Speaker 6: that much harder than Randy White than too Tall Jones
Speaker 6: than Harvey Martin. I never I mean, I know they
Speaker 6: actually missed some games, but I rarely remember, yeah, being
Speaker 6: in that hull without those guys, especially the front four.
Speaker 7: Well, to me, that's what happens when you aren't playing
Speaker 7: football in practice or in raining camp. You're just touching
Speaker 7: up and then all of a sudden your body gets
Speaker 7: in situations that it's not used to, and I think
Speaker 7: it creates injuries.
Speaker 4: It's a good point.
Speaker 5: That is a good point. Let's putting a stamp on it.
Speaker 3: And by the way, back to baseball, it's like, that's
Speaker 3: why baseball pictures can only starting pictures can only go
Speaker 3: like five or six innings, whereas in nineteen seventy four
Speaker 3: chick going complete.
Speaker 5: Game going on.
Speaker 2: By the way, they went to sixteen games in seventy eight.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Bill, I'm sorry if false information, but they
Speaker 3: think you think it makes.
Speaker 5: You think it makes that much of the difference. You
Speaker 5: think it makes that much of.
Speaker 2: A sixteen games? Yeah, well just just seventeen games.
Speaker 6: Injury reports not not practicing as much, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: worrying about.
Speaker 7: The injury reports back then weren't very official either, by
Speaker 7: they were kind of like hockey things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there wasn't gambling back then.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody camp since since Paul Horning and Alex Carris.
Speaker 5: That's suspended. So I wonder if I if I played now,
Speaker 5: I'd be injured, off injured.
Speaker 3: Yes, you're held, you would be you would be injured.
Speaker 5: My gosh, I have to be faster too, though, I
Speaker 5: have to be a lot faster.
Speaker 2: You could have been in that commercial. And Barry.
Speaker 5: Comes, he has hands other than these.
Speaker 6: It just to me, just when we were we focused
Speaker 6: so much on not just injuries, but these are key
Speaker 6: individuals that are getting injured.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oftentimes, and it's to me, it's.
Speaker 2: Just quarterbacks who just lost their court of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: Again gets hurt. He gets hurt every game.
Speaker 2: Well, because he's running all the time. He's not a
Speaker 2: running back. One of these days they're going to figure
Speaker 2: that out with these quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: Well, Jayleen Hods doesn't have a problem.
Speaker 2: Well, he's going to get hurt.
Speaker 5: You tried it.
Speaker 12: I tried, he tried it.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to take him off, But now he's there,
Speaker 5: he's going to stay there. I give up. Yes, no,
Speaker 5: I'm done.
Speaker 3: Not even sure how he said Hurst, Yeah, hurts hurts,
Speaker 3: he does hurts, He takes care of himself. He's more,
Speaker 3: he's smarter the way he runs.
Speaker 7: And he's lower body stronger I think than he's definitely that.
Speaker 7: You know these six or four guys that are only
Speaker 7: two hundred and twenty pounds or two hundred and ten pounds.
Speaker 3: But there will be and Cam Newton was like that.
Speaker 3: You know, Cam Newton ran a lot and eventually it Yeah,
Speaker 3: it shortened his career.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, and it's it's not so much
Speaker 7: the scrambles either, it's the called running place that is
Speaker 7: it necessary?
Speaker 5: Is he leading his team in carries? I believe he is. Well,
Speaker 5: I mean he is, especially when you're talking third downs. Uh.
Speaker 6: And I don't mean just thirty short. I mean this
Speaker 6: guy is going on thirty three, third and four, second
Speaker 6: and ten.
Speaker 3: Definitely going on fourth and one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we know that first and goal.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, who's going to win the race. Who's going
Speaker 3: to win the race? Oh? Come on? Pro Football Reference?
Speaker 3: Her no wi Fi, Her WiFi.
Speaker 2: Is not working rights.
Speaker 7: He already has fifty five carries for two hundred and
Speaker 7: six yards.
Speaker 2: So that's his number right now.
Speaker 3: And how does that rank on his team as my
Speaker 3: WiFi trice, Come on.
Speaker 2: Now, Swift, he's leading.
Speaker 3: Swift has seventy six attempts.
Speaker 2: I want it was a tie. It was a tie.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk over you. Swift is actually
Speaker 2: he's fourth in the league in rushing and that wasn't planned. Right,
Speaker 2: then they have somebody else and then he took over
Speaker 2: for him. I can't remember.
Speaker 5: Well, they.
Speaker 3: Signed Rashad Penny also, that's right, he's had injury issues
Speaker 3: himself in his career. But but yeah, DeAndre Swift leads
Speaker 3: the way for the Eagles and hurts number two. Kane
Speaker 3: Gainwell has thirty nine years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: All right, we got three more minutes to kill here, Mickey,
Speaker 3: Mickey can kill.
Speaker 7: We got any more worries about the Chargers, and we'll
Speaker 7: get into them more tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert, justin Herbert, justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: And by the way, his quarterback coach is Doug Nussmeyer.
Speaker 3: He went out there with Kellen Moore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we will correct Williams is out correct, Mike Williams.
Speaker 3: He was the one that got hurt. Yeah, and they've
Speaker 3: got the TCU rookie first round draft pick, Quentin Johnston.
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see if he works more into
Speaker 3: the mixes. It's this recent that Williams went out, but
Speaker 3: Josh Palmer is their second guy.
Speaker 7: Have they played a game without Williams? Did it happened
Speaker 7: the last time they played, and that happened they have
Speaker 7: played here.
Speaker 3: He last played against Minnesota which was Week three.
Speaker 2: So they played Williams four and then we're off this pass.
Speaker 3: Williams had nineteen catches for two hundred and forty nine
Speaker 3: yards the first three games of the season, and Keenan
Speaker 3: Allen in that same game that Mike Williams last game was,
Speaker 3: Williams had eight targets in that game. Guess how many
Speaker 3: targets and how many catches Keenan Allen had at Minnesota
Speaker 3: fifteen and that twenty eight to twenty four win for
Speaker 3: the Chargers. Twenty targets, eighteen receptions for two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifteen yards, and he threw a forty nine yard touchdown pass.
Speaker 7: That that's even more impressive was that because Justin Herbert
Speaker 7: fractured the middle finger on his left non throwing hand, which.
Speaker 3: By the way, well he threw the ball forty seven
Speaker 3: times in that game. He was forty out.
Speaker 2: Although he got hurt Week four. Yeah, against the Raiders.
Speaker 7: It says he practiced with a glove on his injured hand,
Speaker 7: so they basically, I read where, well, if he can't
Speaker 7: go under center, then they'll just go shotgun to take
Speaker 7: the pressure off his left hand.
Speaker 6: What is the plan for a CD lamb. That's something
Speaker 6: that I want to know from. Get me, mister right
Speaker 6: of hill.
Speaker 7: Get me the ball, especially when we're losing. See, those
Speaker 7: guys are fine as long as you win. Right, He's
Speaker 7: no different than Michael Irvin you just named.
Speaker 5: On the Hill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, name the wide receiver. Right, if you're winning, it's fine.
Speaker 7: When you're losing and he's not, he gets four receptions,
Speaker 7: then it's it's a problem.
Speaker 2: And that's just kind of the wide receivers.
Speaker 5: He's pretty my should have when he caught the ball
Speaker 5: a couple of.
Speaker 2: Times, Yes, I saw that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he kind of postured towards the sideline like, okay,
Speaker 7: I just caught a twenty nine yard pass.
Speaker 2: Maybe you want to throw it to me again when
Speaker 2: he wants the ball and uh, and he needs the ball.
Speaker 6: One thing, I somehow, some way I played it to
Speaker 6: my advantage. We played on natural grass. I didn't have
Speaker 6: nearly as much fear for the fast guys and the
Speaker 6: shifty guys. It it kind of leveled the playing field
Speaker 6: for me.
Speaker 2: The grass worked in your favor.
Speaker 5: It definitely did it should enough did see.
Speaker 7: I never understood that why the grass slowed down fast guys,
Speaker 7: but it didn't slow down the slow guys.
Speaker 5: No, now's there. See, here's the thing that's not the
Speaker 5: approach of the slow guy.
Speaker 6: Okay, the slow guy's approach is I don't have to
Speaker 6: compute as quickly.
Speaker 5: He's slower. I'm always going to be slow. I'm accustomed
Speaker 5: to being.
Speaker 2: Slow at your reaction.
Speaker 6: But it's my reaction here, me being able to read
Speaker 6: his route. And you can see in the game they
Speaker 6: weren't afraid to jam those guys on the line of
Speaker 6: scrimmage because they really don't have the fear of that
Speaker 6: acceleration that you get.
Speaker 3: On their playing to their home field.
Speaker 5: This guy, this guy, thank god, they weren't listening. They
Speaker 5: were listening.
Speaker 2: I heard him say, player, you gotta look at.
Speaker 5: His face when he says it.
Speaker 3: Well, we're overtime now, lot of time out of time,
Speaker 3: over time.
Speaker 2: Don't get sad about it.
Speaker 3: And now there will be football players on a football
Speaker 3: field tomorrow, so Mickey will be in a much better
Speaker 3: mood on the next edition of Mixed Shot.
Speaker 7: But I think they start their football stuff on the
Speaker 7: football field at noon.
Speaker 3: At noon, so you're going to be in a bad mood.
Speaker 2: Agains, we can't watch.
Speaker 3: Talk to you tomorrow at New Yo Cowboys.
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