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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave

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Speaker 1: Pash Podcast. I'm your host Arizona Cardinals and ESPN broadcaster

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Speaker 1: Dave Pash, and my guest this week is Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback Josh Dobbs. Not only is Josh Dobbs one

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Speaker 1: of the best stories on the team, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the best stories in the NFL. This year, he's tenth

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Speaker 1: in the league in passer rating and as you know,

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Speaker 1: he was acquired just a couple of weeks before the

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Speaker 1: start of the regular season, and he's made a seamless

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Speaker 1: transition to not only being the quarterback of the team,

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Speaker 1: but being a winning quarterback. Obviously the Dallas Cowboys game,

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Speaker 1: but just looking at his numbers, whether it was the

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Speaker 1: Giants in particular the first half, or his numbers against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, albeit in a losing cause, it's been really

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Speaker 1: impressive to watch Josh Dobbs. And Josh is a great story.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into that a little bit talk

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Speaker 1: about something that's very passionate to him, and that's raising

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Speaker 1: awareness for alopecia, something he has had in autoimmune disorder

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Speaker 1: that he's had since he was in the third grade.

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Speaker 1: We'll also talk about his background as an aerospace engineer

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Speaker 1: and his goals for life after football.

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Speaker 2: Go to space and come back. Yeah, go to space

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Speaker 2: and definitely come back. I think it's something on my

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Speaker 2: bucket list. Obviously that's a huge decision to make, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that'd be really cool.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that and a whole lot more with

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs, including his lengthy journey to the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: which started back in his days at the University of Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: for our terrific conversation with just an impressive young man

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Speaker 1: on a Cardinals quarterback Josh Dobbs. So, Josh, as I

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Speaker 1: was mentioning before we get on here, you and i've met,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure back at Tennessee, you're doing national games

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Speaker 1: every week, so you're always meeting with the TV announcers.

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Speaker 1: But after every time we did a Tennessee game, they

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Speaker 1: always would provide you and we'd always walk away like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that guy's a study, that guy's smart, and obviously you're

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Speaker 1: a terrific player at Tennessee. First of all, you're wearing

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Speaker 1: a hat that says Astro Dobbs. Yeah, can you fill

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Speaker 1: me in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So during my time at Tennessee, obviously studied aerospace engineering,

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Speaker 2: and so I got like two nicknames like Astro Astro

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Speaker 2: Dobbs and then like Pastronaut, which has been going around

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Speaker 2: a lot lately. So I started just a little brand

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Speaker 2: around Astro Dobbs and started my foundation around it, to

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Speaker 2: Extraordinary Dolls Foundation. So I always rocked the hat obviously

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Speaker 2: because it's you know, me, and then like my passions

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Speaker 2: and everything, it's cool. It seemed like the support and

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Speaker 2: people start rocking the hats too as well.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is this starting to blow up.

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Speaker 1: Now with the way E've ben playing and the way

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are starting to cop the hats. This one's

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Speaker 2: actually brand new, so I got to add it to

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Speaker 2: my site. So I just started. I just got a

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Speaker 2: couple of new hats in for this season, so I

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Speaker 2: got some new drops coming coming along, so I'll be

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Speaker 2: sure to keep everyone posted.

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Speaker 1: All right, So if we want to get them, where

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Speaker 1: do we go to get him?

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Speaker 2: You go to astrodobs dot com. It's on my Instagram

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Speaker 2: TikTok Twitter, astrodobs dot com and everything's right there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna get myself one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: So my one of my daughters is in a serious relationship.

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Speaker 1: My guess is they're going to get married. And he

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Speaker 1: is an aerospace engineer. Is this like slam dunk husband material?

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Speaker 2: Being an aerospace in it has to be, man, I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't know where he works or who he

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Speaker 1: He went to a SU Were you almost?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I almost went to a su I'm guessing is

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Speaker 2: he is he? I'm guessing he wants to get his

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Speaker 1: It's above my pay grade. I was a broadcast major,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What was your day like when you interned there?

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Speaker 2: It was crazy? So that was back in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: So a lot of it was kind of in like

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Speaker 1: So how do you decide which rocket fits that? So

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Speaker 2: So there's probably about five different rockets that are about

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I want to talk football obviously, but

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Speaker 1: I'm totally fascinated by all this because you're one of

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Speaker 1: the most unique people in the NFL given your background,

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Speaker 1: and when did you get interested in all this? Was

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Speaker 2: So it started really when I was really young my parents.

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Speaker 2: You know, growing up, I was the only child, and

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Speaker 2: I got involved in a lot of things like literally

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Speaker 2: And so just as I progressed, my parents wanted to me,

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Speaker 2: They're like, you should be a lawyer. You love to debate,

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Speaker 2: I can't play football forever, what am I going to

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Speaker 2: aerospace engineering was the was the perfect combination of both.

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Speaker 2: Now when I chose it, I didn't know it was

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Speaker 1: So forgive me if this is a dumb question. You're

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Speaker 2: Me to go to space? Go to space, come back? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: go to space and definitely come back. I think you

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Speaker 1: Have total recall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, movie, we haven't, right, we haven't brought them back either,

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Speaker 2: it's something on my bucket list. Obviously that's a huge

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Speaker 1: And Pastorna you mentioned was a nickname. Is that something

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Speaker 1: that's recent, because I know it's been obviously blowing up

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Speaker 2: I would say it's probably that one's probably more recent.

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Speaker 2: That one was probably more recent. You know, Astro has

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Speaker 2: been a big, big nickname of mine, Astro astrodobs. But

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Speaker 1: You make all this sound so easy, and you've made

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Speaker 1: football look easy the last month, and I'm just curious

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Speaker 1: you get here. The trade happens just a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks before the regular season starts. How what was the

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Speaker 1: To transition.

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Speaker 2: keep leading this team, keep playing quarterback, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: out and put my best foot forward. And the day

434
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Speaker 2: that role changes, I'll embrace whatever that role looks like.

435
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Speaker 2: And I'll keep moving forward and still being Josh Dobbs,

436
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 2: still being the person that I am. So you know, yeah,

437
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 2: so whenever that day comes in, it'll be okay. But

438
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Speaker 2: until then and I'm putting my best foot forward, trying

439
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Speaker 2: to leave these guys to victory every Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about a relationship with with Drew pettsing?

441
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Speaker 1: You know, how much do you guys talk during the

442
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Speaker 1: week about the plan? How much are you talking during

443
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Speaker 1: the game? For example, I brought up the ninety nine

444
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: yard drive. Like to me, the first play of that drive,

445
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 1: nobody remembers or talks about, but like you just diving

446
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: ahead for three yards to give you guys a little

447
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 1: bit more breathing room. Not a lot of teams do that,

448
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: at least the Cardinals that hadn't done that the last

449
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Speaker 1: couple of years. How much come how much discuss? How

450
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Speaker 1: many conversations you having with Drew throughout the weekend.

451
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Speaker 2: On game day, we're having a ton of conversations. Man,

452
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 2: we talk she was starting yesterday about the past game,

453
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Speaker 2: how how we can improve, and then today we're on

454
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Speaker 2: to the Bengals and talking about first and second down thoughts,

455
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: getting a head start on that. So then we come

456
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Speaker 2: in on tomorrow and wrap up that start on third down.

457
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: So each day it's a discussion about a different part

458
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: of the field, different zone on the field, and then

459
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: as we get closer to the game days, more situational

460
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: football thoughts and starting thoughts, how we're going to start

461
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Speaker 2: the game, what we're gonna do on the big third downs,

462
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Speaker 2: where we're gonna do on the red zone, and then

463
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Speaker 2: you know, once we get in the game, the dialogue continues,

464
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Speaker 2: right Like, I have a ton of dialogue with Izzy

465
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Speaker 2: throughout the week for the most part, obviously because he's

466
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Speaker 2: in the room. And then Drew comes down and we

467
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: talk as well. So the relationships grow, man, the you know,

468
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Speaker 2: obviously I spent time with Drew last year. I didn't play,

469
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Speaker 2: but we spent a ton of time together. I think,

470
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, just being able to talk football last year,

471
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Speaker 2: for me to be able to pick his brain when

472
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Speaker 2: he was in the position as the coach and now

473
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: for him to grow into the role as that. Oh see,

474
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: those reps have helped us a ton this year. You know,

475
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: when he calls plays, I feel like, you know, I

476
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: know exactly what he's about to say as he's calling

477
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Speaker 2: them into the huddle. And so as we continue to

478
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: get reps together as the weeks continue to go by,

479
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: that those the relationship right, the camaraderie per se, but

480
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Speaker 2: the chemistry will just continue to grow. And so it's

481
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Speaker 2: been great to see the steps that we've been able

482
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Speaker 2: to make each and every week, just starting from week one.

483
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Speaker 2: Man that feels like a year ago. That guy here, Yeah,

484
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Speaker 2: and so it only shows the steps that will continue

485
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Speaker 2: to make throughout the year.

486
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Speaker 1: It seems like MANI us and for IT and JG

487
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Speaker 1: they have a specific type of person that they want

488
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Speaker 1: here as well as a player that there's more that's

489
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Speaker 1: going into who's on the roster as opposed to just

490
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Speaker 1: picking talent and picking players. Michael Wilson, you fit exactly

491
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Speaker 1: the mold of what MANI and JG want. Michael Wilson

492
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Speaker 1: seems like another guy. He actually kind of feels like

493
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Speaker 1: a wide receipt version smart guy, went to Stanford. Both

494
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: very good college players. He's a third round pick, you

495
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Speaker 1: were a fourth round pick. Talk about your connection with

496
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Speaker 1: him and what you've seen from Michael so far. Obviously,

497
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Speaker 1: it had a huge game this past weekend.

498
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Speaker 2: He had a great game. That was really cool for

499
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Speaker 2: him to be back in the Bay obviously right down

500
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Speaker 2: the street from school and ball out. Relationship has been awesome,

501
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Speaker 2: Like he's been a guy since the day I got here.

502
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 2: I think it was probably the first guy that came

503
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Speaker 2: up and introduced himself in the lunch room right when

504
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Speaker 2: I walked in. But he's always you know, picking my

505
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: brain from a QB perspective of hey, like what can

506
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: I do better? Or hey let's get an extra rep

507
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 2: on this, and then from there, you know, he's just

508
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: so locked into the game plan and always you know,

509
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 2: doing the right things exactly where he needs to be. Obviously,

510
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: he's a great dude off the field, and so just

511
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: seeing that, having you know, that safety blanket as a

512
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Speaker 2: quarterback is awesome. You know, as you said, he's a

513
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: great dude, and you know, I think guys like that

514
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: are are tremendous opportunities to continue to build the team culture.

515
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Speaker 2: And chemistry around, and so I enjoy Obviously, I've loved

516
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: the way he's played. He's made some huge plays, obviously

517
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: the Dallas game with the big play to put his

518
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: in position to seal it, and then last week with

519
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: the two touchdowns and a couple other big time catches

520
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: and big situations to put his in position to score.

521
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Speaker 2: So it's been tremendous in his growth. Like when he

522
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: showed up, I was watching some of the camp film

523
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: and just watching him, was like, who's this dude? Like, Oh,

524
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: that's that's the rookie. I was like, Wow, he looks

525
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: like a second third year player already. Yeah, and so

526
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: he'll continue to grow and improve, man, But he's been awesome,

527
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: and so I'm excited for him in his career.

528
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Speaker 1: Another guy that looks like he's been in the league

529
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Speaker 1: for a while, and he's playing a position that I

530
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Speaker 1: don't think he played a ton of Ohio State Paris

531
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Speaker 1: Johnson mostly left tackle playing right tackle. What stands out

532
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: to you about him and how he's played so far?

533
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: Man, he's had the gauntlet of guys the blog already

534
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: this season. Man, that's been That's probably been what's been

535
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: so impressive, Right, like she had. He's had a slate

536
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: of guys thrown at him, starting with the Commanders in

537
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: the front that they have and than the Giants have

538
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: a really good front, and obviously eleven Michael Parsons with

539
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and then last week Nick Bosa, and so

540
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: he'll continue having more guys that he'll be tasked with blocking,

541
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: but he's stepped up to the challenge every single week.

542
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: He has that right demeanor, that confidence in himself and

543
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: you know, just you come in as a come in

544
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: as a as a different as a new quarterback and

545
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: having your alignment look at you and gets you hyped

546
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: to go out and go out and play and take

547
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: over games. Man, that's that's a great feeling. So he did.

548
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 2: He does a tremendous job. Is really cool seeing his

549
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: relationship that he's already created with DJ on the other side.

550
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: Obviously DJ's played a lot of football and at a

551
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: very high level. But just seeing how he's learning from

552
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: DJ and how to take care of his body, what

553
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: to do off the field, getting into his routine as

554
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: a rookie man, that that's very impressive. Just you know,

555
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: being around the around the league and seeing guys man

556
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: he's he's acting like similar to Mike as a vet,

557
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: you know, already as a rookie and learning the right

558
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Speaker 2: ways to take care of his body off the field

559
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 2: in order to then go out and prepare and play

560
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: high level football on Sundays.

561
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Speaker 1: A couple more, we'll get you out of here. Josh,

562
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: You've always you've never shied away from bringing awareness to alopecia,

563
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: something you've dealt with since I think you.

564
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: Were third or fourth grade. Yeah, third grade.

565
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: And just tell me about why you're passionate about making

566
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Speaker 1: people aware of that.

567
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: You know, it's just part of my journey, and so

568
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: everything that's part of my journey, man, I always love

569
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: bringing attention to it. Obviously, having alopecia since the third grade,

570
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: my journey's look different than some people with alopecia. For

571
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: those of you who don't know, alopecia is the autoimmune

572
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: disease that tax your hair follicles. Some people their hair

573
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: is patchy, some people have no hair, some people have

574
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Speaker 2: a lot of hair. It affects everyone differently, but usually

575
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 2: at some point you start losing your hair and it

576
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: never really grows back. So for me, you know that

577
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: happened in college where you know, lost my hair didn't

578
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: really grow back. And being a divisional one quarterback, a

579
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: really good Division one quarterback at a very prominent university,

580
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 2: you're a lot of spotlight, so you get a lot

581
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: of attention and sometimes people don't know what alopecia is.

582
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: Sometimes people are very ignorant to what alopecia is and

583
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: that comes with the platform. So for me just to

584
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: be able to show people that no matter what you're

585
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: going through, everyone's going through something. Alopeca is a little

586
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: more visual than other things that people go through on

587
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: a daily basis, But no matter what you're going through, man,

588
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: just be true to who you are, be yourself, have

589
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: that confidence in yourself, and just control what you can control.

590
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm a huge advocate for that. The kids that I've met,

591
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: they have alopecia, the adults I've met that have alopecia,

592
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: has been tremendous seeing the looks on their faces when

593
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: they meet someone else just with alopecia, you know, not

594
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: me being an NFL quarterback or college quarterback, just me

595
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: being someone else that relates to them, that knows exactly

596
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: what they're going through and their hair journey per se.

597
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: But also it's extremely confident in my own skin and

598
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: showing them that, you know, if they can if they're

599
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: confident in their own skin, man, they can define their

600
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: own success in life. And so yeah, ALPC has been

601
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: a great part of my journey. Man. It's molded me

602
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: into who I am today, and so I definitely don't

603
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Speaker 2: shy away from it.

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Speaker 1: Was there anybody in particular I read a story where

605
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Speaker 1: You've got a chance to meet Charlie Villain the way

606
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: of a former NBA player. Anybody specific that that you

607
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: recall that encourage you when you need an encouragement.

608
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have a tremendous support group with

609
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: with my family. Charlie's been awesome and he always says,

610
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, Alo Pisas doesn't have me, I have alopecia,

611
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: And that just talks about just being comfortable in your

612
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: own skin and accepting you know that alopieza is a

613
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: part of your story. Ryan Shazier is also one who

614
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time with in Pittsburgh, and

615
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: so just being around those those people, those individuals, those

616
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: highly successful individuals that also may face the same ignorance

617
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Speaker 2: sometimes that I've gone through, but still are able to

618
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Speaker 2: stand up and take it in stride and still be

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Speaker 2: true to who they are. It just has always served

620
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: as a great example for me of how to proceed

621
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Speaker 2: about my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, it's been great covering your games here as

623
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. And not only are you one of

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Speaker 1: the best stories on the team, you're one of the

625
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: best stories in the NFL right now. So congratulations on

626
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: the great start, and let's keep it going this weekend.

627
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Speaker 2: Just do it for the time, man, I appreciate you,

628
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: may Man, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You got it, man, I could have just forgotten completely

630
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: about football and talked rocket science with Josh Dobbs for

631
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Speaker 1: forty five minutes, so entertaining, so interesting, and just hearing

632
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Speaker 1: about his journey and all the things that he did

633
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: as an Internet NASA and his goals for life after football.

634
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: Also just incredibly impressive to hear about his passion for

635
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Speaker 1: raising awareness for alopecia, something that he's dealt with since

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Speaker 1: a young boy. And also Josh's role as the quarterback

637
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, his leadership, his relationship with Drew Petsing,

638
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: and a guy that has had to wait his turn

639
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: and be patient over two stints with the Steelers, two

640
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: stints with the Browns Jacksonville, Detroit, Tennessee, and now with

641
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. It's great to see Josh Dobbs playing well.

642
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: It's easy to root for a young man like Josh Dobbs.

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