1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: M. The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: the backfield, flooding Dallas. The following is a production of 4 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 5 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: This is Radiohead broadcasting live on Dallas Cowboys dot and 6 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: the Official Dallas Cowboys have now your hosts Tyler Klutz, 7 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Christie Scales, and Brad Sham. Hi. Everybody welcome, It's Radioheads. 8 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: This is the third edition of Radioheads. As we go 9 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: into Week six of the NFL season, and um, the 10 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: populace is now officially looking for realist that you're in 11 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: real estate Arthur Tyler. Yes, are you selling building space 12 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: with ledges for people to crawl out onto? Because I 13 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: think they're looking for them? Yeah. No, we we represent 14 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: the companies that are fueling the people that are looking 15 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: for these ledges. But we uh, yeah, we're we We 16 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: had to make sure that those are not exposed to 17 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: our clients. Can I just ask you from when when 18 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: you played at various levels at college, the various professional 19 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: leagues that you played in, how as a player did 20 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: you react to And I'm guessing that in most of 21 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: those places in varying degrees and proportions, that fan reaction 22 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: was somewhat similar. The higher up the Blaze didn't have 23 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: a ton of fan reactions. There are those the folks 24 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: that practiced in the parking lot, in the in the 25 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: public park with dogs running league. Was that the arena 26 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: football football, arena football. But I will tell you if 27 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: you got five hundred people to a game, and I 28 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: did some arena football games, so I know that if 29 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: you got five hundred people to a game, four hundred 30 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: of them really cared about what the Blaze was doing. 31 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: That's true, and they were angry if he lost and 32 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: they knew why. That's right. Okay. Yeah, So that's the 33 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: part that I wonder if if it amuses players. Yeah. 34 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: And so to your point, when I played, I was 35 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: pretty intentional about not listening to like sports radio and 36 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of pullint away just so we could focus on 37 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: what we have to have to focus on. But now 38 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: listening and then still being close enough to the game 39 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: and not being out for too long, I still get 40 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: it right. And you watch the game and I'm still 41 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: thinking like I'm one of the guys on the field, 42 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: and you know how to approach that how to correct that, 43 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: and so it's it's just funny. I was listening to today. 44 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: I was listening to one oh five three. The fan 45 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: partner of the Cowboys, Ben and Skin, had a guy 46 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: call in and he was like, I can't believe you 47 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: guys still are supporting the Cowboys. And I'm thinking, like, Okay, 48 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: first of all, you're talking to a Dallas Cowboys partner 49 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: sister radio station. First of all, okay. Second of all, 50 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: we've had two losses to arguably the two best teams 51 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: in the NFC. I mean there's a case to be 52 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: made about that. Yes, like things haven't gone right, but 53 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: we're also in the NFL, right and we are, So 54 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: why would we're three and two? A lot of teams 55 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: would really really be happy to be three and two 56 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: right now? Why are we jumping ship? Where we're at 57 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: right now? We just started the second quarter, That's right, 58 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I just started the second We are literally eleven minutes 59 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: left in the second quarter. Correct, where we're at right now? Yeah, 60 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: but the last two weeks have highlighted some deficiencies, yes, 61 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: and so let's so let's pinpoint some of those. But 62 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: from uh, yesterday's game with the packers. What did you 63 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: think of the line play both sides of the line. 64 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: I think I think for the first time in a 65 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: few years here, I think we've had back to back 66 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: weeks where were dominated up front um and I say 67 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that because we don't We didn't have the penetration that 68 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli expects from our defensive front um, and we 69 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: didn't have the downhill play from the linebackers that I 70 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: think that we would want. And then on the offensive 71 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: side of the ball, the fact that we've been neutralized 72 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: with light boxes, you know, six and seven man boxes, 73 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: and our run game has been neutralized. It's the first 74 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: time we've seen that, um and And I don't want 75 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, hey, Tyrn went down everything. You know, 76 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: we're not we're not the old line that we are 77 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: because you know it started that way in New Orleans 78 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: with him in the game, and so I I just 79 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: it's the first time we've seen that. So to say 80 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: that that's a trend that's going to continue, that's not 81 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: the case. I don't believe that. But I also see 82 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: that there's some things that we need to address. Well, 83 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: but you say that the run game was neutralized, well, 84 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott averaged over five yards a carry, you know, 85 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: and and the Cowboys six yards a carry. But when 86 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: you fall, when you dig a hole like that, and 87 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: you're having to play catchup and and pass the ball, 88 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: and then of course you can't do the play action 89 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: pass if you know you didn't establish the run earlier 90 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: be able to stick with it. So it's not excuses. 91 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: But there was a reason I watched. I spent part 92 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: of today watching the first half offense and m and 93 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: I get an opportunity to watch coaches tape and and 94 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a coach or a scout, I'm not an expert, 95 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: but I did want to see part. I had the 96 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: feeling because I was asked on the radio this morning 97 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: about the play of Cam Fleming, and the first thing 98 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: I said was this was not Chaz Green in Atlanta, 99 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: that this is not that. And I said, I'm going 100 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 1: to look at it. But my gut feeling is that 101 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the whole game, you're going to 102 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: find out that probably seventy or seventy five percent of 103 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: the time he was just fine, just fine, And there 104 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: were a few plays that got away from him. I 105 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: know one was a sack. I was looking at it 106 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, I just haven't and Zadarius Smith 107 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: just ran over. And maybe Zadarius Smith is a better 108 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: football player than Cam Fleming. That's possible, and that I 109 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: can't get mad at Fleming for that. There are a 110 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of teams starting worse tackles than he is. But 111 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: my pushback would be that I don't know that they 112 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: were dominated as a group up front, because if they 113 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: had not turned the ball over repeatedly, they were actually 114 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: making yards. They were running for chunks and passing for 115 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: big chunks. If so, here's the things that I saw 116 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: just from watching the first half. Amari Cooper had a 117 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: ball hit him in the hands and wind up as 118 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: an interception, and and they're they're at about the fifteen 119 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: yard line at that point, they're going in to score 120 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: m The next time they had it, they were down 121 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: in the second quarter. They were going in at about 122 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: the somewhere, but at the edge of the red zone. 123 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: And Tavon Austin, Tavon Austin, all one hundred and twelve 124 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: counds of Tavon Austin got called for holding, which you did, 125 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: well you think it was it was on the edge. 126 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, I'll even give you that. It doesn't 127 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: matter if it was on the edge or not. It 128 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: was called. Yeah, So so Tavon Austin gets called. So 129 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: there's a penalty that that derails that possession and brings 130 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: it back. And the times before they started clicking, I 131 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: mean they were, they were gashing him. They were running 132 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: in much the same way the Eagles ran against him, 133 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: it looked like to me. And then they would turn 134 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: the ball over. I thought the quarterback made a miscalculation, 135 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: if not a misread on the second interception, the third interception, 136 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: which might have changed the game if it had been called. 137 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: I was going to say that was that was one 138 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: of the glaring most calls of the game. So they 139 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: now And then here's another thing that I thought that 140 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: was a silver lining. And I you know, I'm the 141 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: guy that likes fullbacks and backup offensive linemen. So but 142 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: I thought Brandon Knight played pretty well. Agreed, And here's 143 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: a guy who had never played in an NFL game, 144 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: and so who cares, Well, here's why you care, because 145 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: maybe you found a backup tackle right there. This was 146 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: a guy who was a he was a maller at Indiana, 147 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: and he was a tackle and moved him inside to guard. 148 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: He switched to that took right to All I'm saying 149 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: is maybe they found a player doesn't help with the loss. Yeah, 150 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: but I didn't think that they were dominated on that. 151 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say this, and maybe maybe we've become 152 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: and me personally been spoiled and you used to seeing 153 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: it the other way. And yes, like we had some chunks, 154 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: but it wasn't the wasn't the domination. I think that 155 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: we're used to seeing on the offensive side of the 156 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: ball at least right, and certainly in the first three 157 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: weeks when they had the defensive line, we're used to 158 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: We're used to seeing Zach Martin and Travis work together 159 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: go up to linebackers and swallow them whole right, And 160 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: we're used to seeing Tyrant on the edge really solidify 161 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: and make that edge soft for Zeke to really press 162 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: that zone, run game, stretch it out and then hit 163 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: it up in the scene. It just it has not 164 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: looked the same the last two weeks. Well, I do 165 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: think that's fair, and I think that I think that 166 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: it's fair to say that Travis Frederick is not a 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: hundred percent back. I think, by the way, there's a 168 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: tour going by, and my brother is leading it. So pleasant, 169 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: good afternoon, sir. He he works at the Star and 170 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: leads tours. Um, good source of information. Well, let's not 171 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: get carried away. Um. I think when you watch Travis 172 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, Um, he's still better than most. 173 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: I was going to say, not if he's not quite 174 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: to the level that he was before he got sick. 175 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would quibble with that. Yeah, 176 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: and Zach, I think is again, it's not an excuse, 177 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: but it's a fact. I think Christy said at one 178 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: point yesterday or maybe it was just a minute ago. 179 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm very tired that it was. It's not an excuse, 180 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: but it's a reason. Yeah, it's an explanation. I mean, 181 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: Zach Martin's got a bad back. Yeah he's Yeah, he's not. 182 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: So I don't think he is all of Zack Martin, 183 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: but he's going to give it to be so, hey, 184 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: not all of Zack Martin is still better and that 185 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: you might you might have something there, But I think 186 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: it's good enough. Yeah, I agree if they don't turn 187 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: the ball over definitely. I mean, you're putting good drives 188 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: together early and you just can't finish. When you can't 189 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: finish drives, not only do you not see the points 190 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: on the board, but there's a momentum swing there right 191 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: when you're actually finishing those drives, And there's a deflation 192 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: that takes place when you get to the fifteen yard 193 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: line and turn the ball over. So there's something to 194 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: be said about that. Stop and tell me about that. 195 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: I think people need to hear about that, because you know, 196 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: you just see large humans pushing against each other. But 197 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: as Yogi Barras said, fifty percent of this game is 198 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: ninety percent metals. To talk a little bit, thank you 199 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: for Chuck late, talk a little bit about what it 200 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: is that happens as a group psychologically players when you 201 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: get to the fifteen yard line two or three times 202 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: and come away with nothing. Yeah, so when something like 203 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: that happens, like I said, there's a sense of deflation, like, Okay, 204 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: we worked really really hard and we got this thing. 205 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: And we use this analogy all the time in real estate, 206 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: right like get it over the finish line. Okay, we're 207 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: in the red zone. Now we're close to finishing, and 208 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: you get that far, you put that much work, because 209 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: this is one of the hardest. I mean, it's one 210 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: of the hardest sports to get into as a professional, 211 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: let alone actually go and excel at that sport. Now 212 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: you're on the field against professional athletes on the other 213 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: side of trying to stop you, the best athletes in 214 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: the world. And then you've worked all the way down, 215 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: you've gotten that close to finish this goal of putting 216 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: the ball in the end zone, and then it's we 217 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: gave it away, especially giving it away, right if it's 218 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: a goal line stand and it was just a tough, 219 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: fought battle, But when you give the ball away, there's 220 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: just a sense. You get over there and you're like, dang, 221 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna go through and 222 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: watch the tape or whatever. They can they watch tape? 223 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: Is it? Can they watch it live? On the sidelines? 224 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: That still still picture still the video technology exists, but 225 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: the league has not changed the world yet. So those 226 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: surface tablets only show still photos. Okay, it was the 227 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: same one I was there. So you're gonna go through 228 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna look at pictures and you're gonna figure 229 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: out what you did wrong. But in the back of 230 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: your mind, it's like, we gave away an opportunity. It's 231 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: one thing. Okay, they stopped us. Credit to them. Let's 232 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: let's figure what it is. Let's go back on the field, 233 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go give it to him. Now. It's like, damn, 234 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: like we did that to ourselves, and we did it 235 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: multiple times this game. I had that feeling watching the 236 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: second interception, which when we saw it live even on replay, 237 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, and Babe had a great explanation of 238 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: what the quarterback sees and how the guy just snuck 239 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: and everybody in the stadium can see that guy accept 240 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback because he's out of his peripheral vision and 241 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: haven't said that. The guy still made an amazing athletic play. 242 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: When you go back and watch the play, he stretched out, 243 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: laid out, leaped over his head, came up with the 244 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: ball held onto it went to the ground room. I mean, 245 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: it was really a tremendous athletic play. If one of 246 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: our players makes that play, we are ready. We've been 247 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: talking about that for a month, that's right. Yeah, So 248 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: a little credit to them there too. Yeah, And that's 249 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: one thing again we've got to recognize, is we've got 250 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: to give credit where credits due yes, we don't want 251 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: them to do these things, but at the same time, 252 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: you got to give credit for outstanding out of this 253 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: world type of place and those things happen in this 254 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: game because of the type of athletes that are out 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: there right now, all right now, we're going to open 256 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: up the phone lines, um, if you would like to 257 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: join Tyler Klutz on Christie Scales and me on Radioheads 258 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: the numbers eight eight eight eight five five twenty two 259 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: ninety seven. Our producer Kyle Yeoman's will take your call 260 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: and get you through to us, and maybe you can 261 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: ask Christy about the shirt of the week less Charles 262 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: Haley was last week. This is DeMarcus Ware, But so 263 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: that was that was DeMarcus when he was real big, 264 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: because he leaned up towards the end of his career, 265 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: but he was much bigger than this. Well, I'm going 266 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: to have to ask you some behind the scenes with 267 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: your former teammate, DeMarcus Ware. But this is the America's 268 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: Team collection. So every Monday, it's a different Cowboy that's featured, 269 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: and it's mainly former Cowboys, but they're also current Cowboys. 270 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: So today in pro shops and on Dallas, Cowboys dot com. 271 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: We have the newest drop, which again is each Monday. 272 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: So DeMarcus Lawrence. The first week was Roger. I'm hearing 273 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: out of this is that Christy is getting in and 274 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: it's going to say it must be nice, Christie. Yeah, 275 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: well you know, let I might be able to hook 276 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: you guys up with DCM. One thing I do love 277 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: about DeMarcus two things. Let me tell you that. One 278 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: that he's true to the d line face mask. Right, 279 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: he has the old school like all the new guys 280 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: have all the cool looking face mask. He was like 281 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: true gritty face mask. I love that. But then two 282 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: is so I came here in It was the first 283 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: week of December in twenty thirteen. Right, we went up 284 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: to Chicago, played up there. It was a really short week, 285 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: kind of a rule win of week. But obviously I've 286 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: watched him play from Afar for a long time and 287 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is this guy is an absolute monster. 288 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: Like he's the guy that like, I don't ever want 289 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: to cross sideways in the locker room. I'm going to 290 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: make sure it's well lit because I don't want to 291 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: be caught, you know, behind the dividers when it's dark. 292 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: But I met. Uh he met. I guess really. The 293 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: first time I had a conversation with him was at 294 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboy's Christmas party at at and T Stadium where 295 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: we go down and they have the train that goes 296 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: around the outside for the kids, the whole family. Great event. 297 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: It was amazing and I we'd only had my daughter 298 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: at this point, and so we're pregnant with our second 299 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: and uh and he's walking out as you weren't pregnant, Tiffy, Tiffany, Tiffany, 300 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, don't take the credit. Take the credit 301 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: from Tiffany. Please, you were sorry, tiff I apologize, that's 302 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: all you. But walks up and we talked to him 303 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes, and I was blown away. And 304 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: I obviously got to know him better through the through 305 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: the time together. But how nice of a person he has, sweetheart, 306 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he is one of the nicest. He's a nerd. 307 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: He no, he'll tell you he's a computer nerd. No, 308 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: I love it. And and he does a great job 309 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: when he comes on with you guys listening. I mean 310 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: he really does. He's insightfully and that's a kind of guy. 311 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: He is off the field too, like and he's just 312 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: as good of a human being as it was. And again, 313 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I had been in the locker room for I don't 314 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: know seven days at this point. We went to this 315 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Christmas party and he knew me and was like, hey, Tyler, 316 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: how's it going. You must be Tyler's wife. We love Tyler. 317 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't have to say those things, but 318 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: he really. I mean I was blown away. How good 319 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: of a great did you have to block him? I 320 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: did in that week? And that's why I didn't want 321 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: to talk to ye. Who were you playing for? Uh? 322 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: No practice? And I felt it, I mean, when he's 323 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: not because it was a power play because we had 324 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: a big power scheme when we're playing. Because we were 325 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: in Chicago and it was freezing cold. That was when 326 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: that snowstorm came in and so there was ice on 327 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: the field over the awful and I played in Chicago. 328 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: That was the coldest game I ever played in Chicago. 329 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: And uh, and I remember going to kick DeMarcus out 330 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: and I remember, like, dude, I thought I had a 331 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: big neck and a strong neck, but this guy like 332 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: was as solid as possible and he just made a 333 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: look effortless. What made me feel worse I was like, okay, 334 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: he just read tried to spill the pull the full 335 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: bag that's pulling out, that's fresh that's coming over here 336 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: from you know, coming being on the streets, and just 337 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: crush me. And I remember like, I can't be sore 338 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: going into this cold game. Going to kick him out? Yeah, 339 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: sure enough. Hey, By the way, is the season progresses 340 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: and it starts to get colder, and so the Cowboys Nation, 341 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: the people who have to go to outdoor games for 342 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: their kids or grandkids or Cowboys on the road, Tyler 343 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: and I are going to share our best tips for 344 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: staying warm in cold weather place Canada. Yeah, he'says CFL. 345 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: So we've got tips from Edmonton, Chicago and then me 346 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: at thirty one other you know, visiting stadium around the country. 347 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: So we'll share those as it goes along. 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We're 390 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: here every Monday at three o'clock most Mondays anyway at 391 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: three o'clock, and I'm Brad Sham with Christie Scales and 392 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: former Cowboys fullback Tyler Klutz dissecting the Cowboys game with 393 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Green Bay yesterday. We have not yet talked about the defense, 394 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: which seemed at least to be the bigger culprit. But 395 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: we've promised some calls and we have a couple of 396 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: folks waiting so at eight eight eight eight five five 397 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: two two nine seven. Tony in Miami, thanks for calling, radioheads, Hi, 398 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: how are you guys doing great? Great? How are you 399 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: doing at upset? Of course everything that has been happening 400 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: since last week, the same game and the Green Bay game. 401 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys, of course, do you really, guys, 402 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: we really have the best line in beautiful I don't 403 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: know if they're playing the best right now. I mean, 404 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: when they're all healthy, I'll put them up against anybody. 405 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is pretty good, yeah, and there are some others, 406 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Given health. I mean yeah, I'll 407 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: agree with that. I think individually, I think if you 408 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: put every offensive linement out, I'd probably seventy five percent 409 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: of the time pick that combination of five people. Yeah, 410 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: I mean four for sure, But I think that group together, 411 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: playing well, can be the best offensive line. I think 412 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: we need to update a health situation you mentioned Brandon 413 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Knight earlier, Brad having to step in for Lyle Collins, 414 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: so Branded actually ended up playing twenty eight snaps last night, 415 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: thirty nine of the total offensive snaps seventy two in 416 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: the game for the welcome Cowboys offense. Yeah, but Lyle Collins. 417 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: It was probably the most important report I had from 418 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: the sideline last night was when Lyle went out in 419 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the third quarter with the left knee 420 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: injury and he was able to walk off under his 421 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: own power. But instead of coming to the Cowboys bench 422 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: usually they come and they'll get on the trainer's table 423 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: right behind the bench. Lyell assisted by the medical personnel, 424 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: they didn't come to the bench. They just went right 425 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: up the tunnel which is where the digital imaging the 426 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: X ray room is. And so some initial reports as 427 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: of Monday morning that it's a mid level knee sprain, 428 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: but we'll find out more. Jason Garrett addresses the media 429 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: later today, and then the locker room will be in Uh, 430 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: not for sure. I don't want to say I think 431 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: it's MCL, but I'm not for sure. It's not for sure. 432 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: That's it's better than yes' not a CL. But well, 433 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: we'll find out more today, but we could be seeing 434 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: quite a bit of Brandon Knight moving forward. And the 435 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: thing that was interesting last week was there were a 436 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: couple of days where Lyell didn't practice at all, and 437 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: so one of the days, Connor Williams moved from left guard, 438 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: not to left tackle because Cam Fleming was already filling 439 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: in for Tyron there, but over to right tackle. Now, 440 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: of course Connor excelled, yeah at University of Texas, but 441 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: he was left tackle. He's never played right tackle in 442 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: a game. But the other day Brandon took the reps 443 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: at right tackle, and on Friday afternoon, Lyell and Brandon 444 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: split the reps. But again, that's a situation. Just keep 445 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: monitoring Dallas Cowboys dot com and we'll keep you updated. 446 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: D I don't want to talk too much about Brandon Knight, 447 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: but I could for a long time. I was, I 448 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: was and am a huge Mark Colombo fan. Okay Colombo. 449 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the great stories I've ever seen. 450 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: You know, the first round draft choice of the Bears 451 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: just did horrible damage to his knee and virtually had 452 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: a red shirt, and they they were they saw him 453 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: as being unsavable physically and so Bill Parcels traded for 454 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: him and gave him a red shirt ear because Parcells 455 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: had liked him at Boston College and with the Bears, 456 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: and Colombo came back and made himself an outstanding offensive tackle, 457 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: nasty on the field. I've heard stories. I mean, you're 458 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: talking about actor Witton about some of those stories through 459 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: the whistle, Yeah, And there is a definite edge to him. 460 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: He so they Mark made himself the policeman of the 461 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: offensive lineman and at Valley Ranch he would walk around 462 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: and if he saw any offensive lineman talking to any reporter, 463 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: they'd get fined in the kangaroo, which when he came 464 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: back brought that to this offensive line in two thousand 465 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: as the assistants there when when he was doing quality control, 466 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: he had just come back and it was weird and 467 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a history. I'm literally learning 468 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: this right now. And they went to the getting fined 469 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: if you talk to the media rule. Yeah. So back 470 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: in the day it was Leonard Davis was guys well 471 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: and Andre Gurod And so here's what what's funny about 472 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: that is that he was like that. And I try 473 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: to pride myself on having good relationships with players, and 474 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: I just particularly loved well, thank you, but Christie not 475 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: so much. But but I particularly, I particularly appreciate offensive life. 476 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: And so even Mark would talk to me, I'd have 477 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: to get him off to the side where no one 478 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: could seem. And more than once I would be talking 479 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: to Gerard or Leonard or Doug Free, and Mark would 480 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: stick his head and SAT's a fine. Now, then he's 481 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: He hurt his knee again in oh seven, the year 482 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: they won, and then Doug that's the first time Doug 483 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: Free played a lot, played right tackle, filled in for Mark. 484 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: Mark came back for the playoff game in Minnesota. They 485 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: lost that game. Somewhat shortly after that, the Cowboys decided 486 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: he had reached his end of the road as a player. 487 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: He went and finished a year in Miami, and then 488 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: he retired. And before he went into coaching and quality control, 489 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: he spent a year in the media, and he had 490 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: preseason games. By the way, this is free reign media. No, No, 491 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: this is the no. He spent time. Uh he did analysis, 492 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't. And I more than once gleefully told him, 493 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: this is so ironic, you who bullied your other offensive 494 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: linemen into not dealing with the media. Now you are media. 495 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I just loved that. So now I suspect he's probably 496 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: swung it back the other way. But the point of 497 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: even going into all that is Colombo looks at Brandon 498 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: Knight and sees Mark Colombo. Yeah, tough, scrappy through the whistle, 499 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: which Night embraces. You talked to Brandon Knight, Yeah, give 500 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: you a little smile, so yeah, you know, a little 501 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: extra trying to play the whole play. Yeah, So I 502 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: think whenever you can find a player, yes, you know, 503 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a big deal. He agreed. It adds 504 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: to the attitude. And um, you know, we've had guys 505 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: here in the past like that. Ron Leary was one 506 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: of those guys that would that would finish. Lale is 507 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Um. So those guys add a 508 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: swagger and edge to an offense that generally is called 509 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: on to be composed and collected. Right, Whereas that swagger, 510 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I think that helps it helps an offense, you know, 511 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: push through those really hard games. And so those types 512 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: of players are very, very very valuable. Now based on history, Christy, 513 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: you're telling me that that Jason's going to tell us 514 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: here in half an hour that that that there's some 515 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: kind of knee sprain. Oh, he's going to say day 516 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: to day. Week, We'll take a day to day. And 517 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: my guess is that he's not going to practice on 518 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday and possibly not Thursday. He didn't practice, as you 519 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: pointed out earlier, Wednesday or Thursday last week because he's back, 520 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: which didn't bother him in New Orleans, and he probably 521 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: played his best game as a professional in New Orleans 522 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and then his back really tightened up and he couldn't go. 523 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: And so if he's I'm not I would by no 524 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: means rule him out for Sunday against the Jets. But 525 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I would be willing to wager, and I'm not a 526 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: betting man, that he won't practice. Yeah, this way, I 527 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: think that's it. And I'll say this too for if 528 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: it is an mcale and I'm literally just all speculative here. 529 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's one way or the other. But 530 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: if it is an MCL, at least he's in a 531 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: position that can allow someone playing through that. If it 532 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: was a defensive lineman that's got to turn the corner, 533 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: run the hoop, that's where that MCL really comes into play. 534 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: And limits your ability is trying to turn the corner 535 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you're kicksliding. You know, it's a it's not 536 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: a straight on ligament where it affects you pushing and driving. 537 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: It's when you're turning and you're running. And so if 538 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: that's the case, at least he's in a position and 539 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, again all speculative here, but he can play 540 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: through that. If it's manageable, you bet better hope. So 541 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: because of the domino effect on the roster, because you're 542 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: you're basically out of tackles because Tyron Smith. Again we're 543 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: going to hear day to day, week to week, but 544 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith is likely not going to play next week, 545 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: and so you've only your swing tackle. Cam Fleming, who's 546 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: been active every game, is now your starter at left 547 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: tackle if Lyle can't go. Your other backup tackle is 548 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: who was active for the first time last week, is 549 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: Brandon Night and will be at right tackle. So who's 550 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: the backup tackle, Well, Connor, it's got to be. It could, 551 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: but then then you have to make a change at guard. 552 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Looney's got to be able to fill in there. He's 553 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: got to be the he's got to be the guy 554 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: and if that domino effects. But if you have to 555 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: deactivate a lineman, you've got Adam Redmond, You've got you've 556 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: got nine offensive lineman. Yeah. Um, the interesting thing would be, 557 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: and here's something that could that could happen. So maybe 558 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: Lyle is well enough to suit up and play in 559 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: an emergency. So maybe they act we're getting way ahead 560 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: of ourselves. And Babe would now say, you're giving me 561 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: a headache because I love doing this. Christy and I 562 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: both love doing this. Yeah, but I could see night 563 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: starting against the Jets. And then but Lyell is active. Right, 564 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: We've done that with Zack in the past, right, Or 565 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: they'll dress Zack and he is a reserve just in 566 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: case of emergency. We don't want to use if we 567 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: don't have to, but if we absolutely have to, we can't. 568 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: There are very subtle things that happen in the game 569 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: on the sideline personnel wise, and here's an example through 570 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: the first four weeks. Because Zach Martin is managing this 571 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: back issue, it's an irritated disc in his back, he 572 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: is not participating in special teams, he is not blocking 573 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: on field goals and extra points. Last night, after Lyell 574 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: left the game, we had the only linemen that were 575 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: dressed had to go out there and sew Zach's back 576 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: out there, and I know it's no big deal. He's 577 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: blocking for seventy two snaps on offense. But again it's 578 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: just these little little things where where the athletic training 579 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: staff is working with the coaching staff to manage these 580 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: kinds of situations. And again it goes to our point 581 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: of there being a domino effect for every single thing 582 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: that happens, because I mean, you just talk about field 583 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: goaliel if there's a six inch gap that may be 584 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: enough for someone to squeeze through. Well, hey, the five 585 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: yard penalty on Suafilo who by the way, it's been 586 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: part of it all five weeks, but that Brett Maher 587 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: made it from twenty eight yards there late in the 588 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and then the penalty happens, it moves back 589 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: and he misses the second one. So yeah, yeah, are 590 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: we worried about kicking? And doesn't matter if we're worried 591 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: because is there anybody out there? I think we're talking 592 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: about it because again I talk about being spoiled. Right, 593 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: we had we had a kicker in Dan Bailey that 594 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 1: was money for so long right, And now we've got 595 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: a kid who's got it's really talented, got a big leg, 596 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: he can he can make the field goals. But we're 597 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: talking seventy five you know, that's a big difference than 598 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: ninety eight percent. You know that's that's it's a huge difference. 599 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: So I think we're asking those questions. And again, as 600 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: a kicker, and listen, I've been on the specialist side, 601 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, long snapping. I spent a lot of time 602 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: with specialists, and I respect them as much as any 603 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: player on the field because of the amount of pressure 604 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: that you have to perform in a very focused situation. Right, 605 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: everyone's looking at you, and if you make a mistake, 606 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: everyone's pointing the finger like it's your fault. So I 607 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: get the pressure that goes with it, but it is 608 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: also your job to do that. That's ultimately either you 609 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: do it or you don't. It's it's black or white. 610 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: So when you make those even your move five yards 611 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: back a makeable kick, we just got we have to 612 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: make those. But again, that's disregarding everything that happened before 613 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: the game. If you're saying it was you, it was 614 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: your fault that we didn't have an opportunity to win 615 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: that game because you missed that field goal. Right now, 616 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: that's not the case. It's everybody else that has played 617 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: in that game. We're here because of all that. By 618 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: the way, fun fact, Green Bay is the only team 619 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: in the league that drafted their punter, their place kicker, 620 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: and their long snapper long snapper. I remember seeing that. 621 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: I remember They've drafted a long drafted their long snapper, 622 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: and they're the only team in the league that drafted 623 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: while as a matter of fact, there's no other team 624 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: that's drafted their kicker and punter. Wow, how about that? 625 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: Um Mary has been waiting on the phone in Tyler, Texas. Mary. Sorry, 626 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's Donna, so sorry. Thank you, Donna. Go ahead, please. Yes, 627 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm good, doctor know all going well, that's for myself. 628 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm going pretty good. But after that loss just today, 629 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: I had to shake it off. I have, of course. 630 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I've been I'm fifty seven years old 631 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: and I grew up as a Dallas Cowboys fan, and 632 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: I just see some problems with the offense and the defense, 633 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: and I think we need a new kicker, and uh, 634 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: don't blank just blame Jack Prescott. I mean, Dikaiela, it's 635 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: the whole offensive line and we need to get our 636 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: defense on track. And I'm very disappointing, Like I said, 637 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: I know, Oh, I don't know if Jerry needs to 638 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: come have a talk in the locker room and what's 639 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: going all. I can understand Jason Garrett. I've been knowing 640 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: him for a long time. Going in the flag on 641 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: the side looked like we were sometimes we get cheated. 642 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on with my ballast? Yeah, 643 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: you shocked as shocked as the rest of us when 644 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett got the and sportsmanlike conduct penalty. I tell 645 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: you there were that was the biggest. That was like 646 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: a Gronkowski spike. Yeah, in the end zone when it 647 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: was I was I wrong to like get excited about 648 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: watching that? Like now, I get fired up a lot 649 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: of people. I fired up the players and coaches, and 650 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how exasperated they were on the sideline 651 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: when you get a from Kellen Moore, arms outstretched like 652 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: are you bleeping kidding me? Not that he would he 653 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: said that, but it was that kind of reaction to 654 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: the penalty. It's like, oh my gosh, if you riled 655 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Yeah, well, Christie is in better position than 656 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: either of us to talk about what the exchanges were 657 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: on the sideline, but part of that penalty flag. I 658 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: believe this is what I took from your reports and 659 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: from talking to you after the game. Correct me if 660 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. That was not the first visit. Two of 661 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: them had absolutely not. There had been a build up 662 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: throughout the game. And there are seven officials on the 663 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: field and one of them is the side judge. The 664 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: side judge and the down judge are on work the 665 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: same sideline. They flip sidelines by half. So Scott let 666 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: me look up his name because I don't want to 667 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: mess it up. But the side judge was Scott Edwards. 668 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: He's the one that threw the flag on Jason Garrett. 669 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: He and Sarah Thomas were working the Cowboy sideline only 670 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: in the second half. But he is the one who 671 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: had an exchange with Jason Garrett following the pass interference 672 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: penalty on Anthony Brown, which was called and then Jason 673 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: Garrett challenged it. Lost the challenge so the penalty stood. 674 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: Just a little bit later, when the Packers were about 675 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: to score on the Cowboys and their way down in 676 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys red zone. Scott is in the back corner, 677 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: so the back end line ten yards deep in the 678 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: end zone. Sarah's at about the four yard line. Jason 679 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: Garrett is out of the coach's box at the thirty 680 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: yard line at about the twenty five and before the 681 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: snap circle this right, So Scott Edwards runs from the 682 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: back line pre snap all the way up to Jason 683 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: Garrett to admonish him to move back into the coach's box. 684 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: He did not throw a penalty flag at that time, 685 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: but it's like get back. So it's really important and 686 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: thank you for breaking that down because it's really important 687 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: to understand where these officials are located, right, because that 688 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: is not where his focus is supposed to be. Why 689 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: is it was very It was close to the snap. Okay, 690 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't like they're just breaking the huddle. It was 691 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: pretty close to the snap. I'm sorry, I can't tell 692 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: you if it was exactly like eight seconds or fifteen 693 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: seconds left on the clock, but it was so um 694 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: so we've already had that and that's what was in 695 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: my mind when a little bit later the exchange happens 696 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett slammed down his second challenge flag of 697 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: the game, and he obviously that that was on the 698 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: Cooper Cooper catch, which which was right in front of 699 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and the Cowboy's coaching staff and the players 700 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: and they're all signaling catch, and I can understand how 701 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: the official would miss that call because it was close. 702 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: But um after the game, Ron Torbert, the referee, was 703 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: made available to a pool reporter and he clarified that 704 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: the penalty and sportsmanlike penalty and sportsmanlike conduct penalty on 705 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was for verbal abuse of the official. So 706 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: did you hear any of that? I did not, think, goodness, 707 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: and thank goodness, my microphone was not open, Brad, because 708 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: radioheads may not be on the air anymore because I 709 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: think that some of the words may have violated George 710 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: Carlin's seven words you cannot say on the air well, 711 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: and we might have lost our FCC line. We need 712 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: a break. But I'm just gonna say this. I've done 713 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of Major League baseball and college basketball, and 714 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: you will see, and you rarely see it in the NFL, 715 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion, but you will see a guy, an 716 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: umpire or a college basketball referee who thinks He's the 717 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: reason everybody came to the stadium. Yes, and that's what 718 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: that was the feeling I had from this guy. Why 719 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: are you standing in the end zone worried about the coach? 720 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 1: Just stay back there and do your job. Someone closer 721 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: to him will tell him. 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Visit Cowboys Travel dot com to book 768 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: your travel package today. Back to radioheads, Welcome back. Last 769 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: few minutes Brad Sham, Christie Scales, Tyler Klotz after the 770 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys dropped one to Green Bay yesterday and we have 771 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: had a great time today talking about everything except the 772 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: thing that probably cost him the game, which was the 773 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: which was the defense, and Tyler that the thing that 774 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: really stunned me had a guy asked me on the 775 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: radio this morning. Were they unprepared? I said, I know 776 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: they were not unprepared, because they know they've prepared, But 777 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: they looked unprepared. Yeah. They You just saw a good 778 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: players who you've seen play well before, flailing and flying 779 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: through the air and waving like like a windmill. And 780 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: that wasn't good. No, No, I agree. It was uncharacteristic 781 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: of a couple of groups I think on the field, 782 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: defensive line being one, and then also the linebacker corps. 783 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: I think we've been so confident in that group for 784 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: so long, and I don't think that they've put too 785 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: they put two weeks of subpart performance together, to be honest, 786 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: you know. And so you know, a guy like Layton 787 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: vander esh who we've been raving about since the second 788 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: he walked in these doors, I think that this was 789 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: probably his worst game as a Cowboy, to be honest 790 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: with you. One thing that I feel like we're missing 791 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: from these guys, and Sean has been traditionally a guy 792 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: that is a really savvy, very very sideline to sideline linebacker. 793 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: Has made a lot of plays for the Cowboys in 794 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: the years, but he's never really been known as that 795 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: thumper right coming down hit you in the mouth. Jalen 796 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: and Layton are both following that trajectory and that they're 797 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: gonna slip blockers, which as a as a fullback, it's 798 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: more frustrated to me playing against those kinds of linebackers 799 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: because you're never you never know where they're gonna slip 800 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: and you know they're gonna inside outside, are they gonna 801 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: actually take you on? But there was times in this 802 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: game where it called for one of one of the 803 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: three guys to come down and hit either elite a 804 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: guard coming up onto them, or a tight end someone 805 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: hit them in the mouth and put them back into 806 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: the ball carrier. And that was one of the things 807 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: that I just didn't see a lot of. And I 808 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: think that physicality has been something really we haven't had 809 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: since Hitchens or Rolando McLane, right, those are the two 810 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: guys that were kind of known as you better bring 811 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: it when you come block these guys, and so I 812 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: think there was just some some blocks that they got 813 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: stuck on and they were playing two lateral as opposed 814 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: to Marinelli's defense. You have to penetrate, you have to 815 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: you have to cut off the edges because you can't. 816 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: You can't have Aaron Jones running a stretch play just 817 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,919 Speaker 1: taking his time getting to the edge and then hitting 818 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: it vertical for a big game. Right. There was a 819 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: lot more of that than we're used to seeing. Traditionally. 820 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: Marion Elly has his guys ready to fight the run, 821 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: and we have been in the past. We've been a 822 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: really good run defense in the past, and we have 823 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: not been that loss too. What does it look like 824 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: on the sideline? Yeah, just um, our guys getting pushed backwards, 825 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: and Layton hadn't looked the same the last couple of weeks, 826 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: to be honest, And in terms of a presence, you know, 827 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Heath can lay a lick at times at safety. 828 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: He's a physical player, but even on the backside, the 829 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 1: guys like the JJ Wilcoxes of the world, and Cavon 830 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: Frasier was more of a thumber type physical guy. And 831 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: now he's out for the year with the torn pectoral 832 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: So um yeah. I mean if Aaron Jones played the 833 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys every week and the defense plays like that, the 834 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: guy's going to be in the Hall of Fame. I 835 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: mean he finished with uh, I wish he had one 836 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: hundred and I was shocked he only had one hundred 837 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: and seventy years, he had seventy five. Say almost too. Yeah, 838 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: you know Aaron Rodgers only completed four passes to wide 839 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: receivers because he didn't have it. He didn't, he didn't, 840 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: he didn't have any and he didn't have to because 841 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones was catching the little stuff and turning it 842 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: for twenty yards. Yeah. And something that we said in 843 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: our first show is that hit that Jeff Heath had 844 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: in Miami, right, and it was unfortunately someone got hurt, 845 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: but you said it then, right, that was what she 846 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: welcome the trajectory of the game, and we have not 847 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: had that sense. We haven't had someone come And yes, 848 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: the game of football has changed. It's not as physical. 849 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot more rules on how we hit, but 850 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: there's it is still football and that that electricity changes 851 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: a team when you come down and hit somebody. You 852 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: could make a lot of money selling closed circuit tickets 853 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: to the defensive meetings this week. Unfortunately those are not 854 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: available even doing the likes of us, but we would 855 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: all pay a pretty penny. And it's what Look, we're 856 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: what we say. We're eleven minutes into the second quarter 857 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: into the second eleven minutes left in the second quarter, 858 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: So everybody, really, as Aaron Rodgers would say, just relax. 859 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: I want to I would like to just wrap up 860 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: with this along those lines, right. I don't know if 861 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: there was a different team of personnel that I would 862 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: put on the field, Like I heard some people questioning, Okay, hey, 863 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: is it the player personnel team that's responsible for this? 864 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: The why we are everyone's looking for a reason, right, 865 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: Let's just relax. I think that we have the right 866 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: people in the locker room to do what we want 867 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: to accomplish here. It's the right guys. We just need 868 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: to put it all together again, and we need to 869 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: take a step back, and we need to take a breath. 870 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: Focus on the things that we can get better at 871 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: what we can't control. Don't try to be something that 872 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: we're not, don't try to overcompensate, and just do get 873 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: back to the football that we were playing. This defense, 874 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: as I understand, it is best when it is assignment correct. 875 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: If you make a misstep in your assignment and are 876 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: not in the proper gap, it looked like it looked 877 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: yesterday's right. So that starts with every player between his 878 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: ears and the coaching staff today in tomorrow, they got 879 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: to figure out a better way, a different way to 880 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: get the message up, maybe simplify and just let them 881 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: play fast. And the New York Jets are waiting, and 882 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't they love to get their first win of the 883 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: year against Cowboys and the Cowboys could be four and 884 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: two and hosting Philadelphia, and yeah, yeah, that's right. A 885 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: lot to look for it, and I think I think 886 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: ultimately what we need and one of the things that 887 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: we can do is is the playmakers need to make place. 888 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: They need to come up and make plays. Amari had, 889 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, big play. Gallup had a big play. But 890 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: I think we need to see that big play from Zeke. 891 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: I think we need you know, we've seen a lot 892 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: from Dak so far, but they need to make big plays. 893 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: We need some takeaways from Jalen, We need some takeaways 894 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: from Jeff. He's takeaways from anybody that Yes, I mean, 895 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: I'm trying to sound smart. How many do they have, Well, 896 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: it's free, they have free. Cowboys will be what minus 897 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: six in the turnover ratio for the season. Defense rooms, 898 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: it's all about takeaways, takeaways, takeaways, That's that's what drives 899 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: this defense right, Okay, there's some stuff to chew on 900 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: for the way, for Tyler Kluts and Christie Scales, I'm 901 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: Brad Sham. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back next 902 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: Monday at three o'clock after the Cowboys visit the New 903 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: York Jets next Sunday. This is Radioheads. 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