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Speaker 1: to respond to a crisis, but fortunately those are not

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Speaker 1: every night, otherwise I would not get any sleep. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. I greatly appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time and I've learned a lot just through this conversation,

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Speaker 1: so thank you well. I appreciate you having me, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: look forward to doing it again. What really struck me

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Speaker 1: in my conversation with Brad was how he takes an

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Speaker 1: almost free association approach to problem solving, using his experience

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Speaker 1: In another it makes him extremely adaptable. He brings forward

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