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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grioloud, Paul Calvic, and nine year NFL veteran

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Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 6: So we survived the first full weekend, an extended weekend

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Speaker 6: without NFL football, so to pass the time, Paul was

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Speaker 6: talking about it before we hit record here on this

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Speaker 6: edition of the Cardinals Red Support. It was not the

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Speaker 6: NBA All Star Game or the NBA All Star Weekend.

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Speaker 6: For you was Daytona that captured the attention on a

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Speaker 6: Sunday that typically is reserved for the National Football League.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you want physicality. Just watch the end

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Speaker 7: of Daytona. Are you kidding me? The you know, the

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Speaker 7: rubbing and racing and pushing and shoving and rooting and tooting,

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Speaker 7: and I mean it was unbelievable. I mean, there was

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Speaker 7: like they had to go overtime and they had to

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Speaker 7: bring the wreckers out there, and there were some salty

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Speaker 7: sound bites afterwards, and then some guy you never heard

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Speaker 7: of won for the second straight year, after all the

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Speaker 7: carnage went away. Well that's my recap. I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 7: to give a recap. I don't know if that made

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Speaker 8: I feel I feel like watching racing though. You just

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Speaker 8: got to watch, like the last five laps. It was

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Speaker 8: kind of like the old my dad used to always

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Speaker 8: say about the NBA. It just all you gotta watch

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Speaker 7: Well that's why they instituted the Stage one winner and

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Speaker 7: the Stage two winner right at middle pointints in the race.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, it's it's coming to pir in Phoenix soon.

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Speaker 7: And then of course the season ends here in town,

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Speaker 7: so that's now the season finale, So you know, Rob,

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Speaker 7: there's time to get up to speed, so to speak.

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Speaker 6: All roads eventually end up in the state of Arizona.

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Speaker 6: That's basically what happens. We saw a couple of years

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Speaker 6: ago with the Super Bowl and Super Bowl fifty seven,

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Speaker 6: and now we'll have to kind of wait and see

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Speaker 6: when that next rotation will hit Arizona and State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 6: But obviously, yes, that's the destination of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: And we do have some Cardinals news because there are

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Speaker 6: five new coaches on Jonathan Gannon's staff, two promotions, and

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Speaker 6: one specific position group that we're going to talk about

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Speaker 6: off the top, because it's a vacancy that was filled

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Speaker 6: with Clayton Adams going to Dallas and becoming the new

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Speaker 6: hole on an offensive line where Paul It is a

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Speaker 6: run first offense. And I don't know if Clayton Adams

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Speaker 6: especially when you have Kyler Murray, James Connor, Drew pettsing

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Speaker 6: the head of the snake, if you will. As far

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Speaker 6: say six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven different players as

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Speaker 6: got at least to start this season. There were a

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Speaker 6: number of different offensive line combinations. You at the same time,

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Speaker 7: I mean, think about it. If you're Clayton Adams, you

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Speaker 7: Big D stood for like dead last in rushing this year.

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Speaker 7: They were abysmal and trying to run the ball. So

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Speaker 7: you come in, you're Clayton Adams and for two years

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Speaker 7: Think about that, and like you said, you've done it

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Speaker 7: You're doing it with, you know, a variety of running backs.

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Speaker 7: James Connor obviously has been a workhorse, but it's been

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Speaker 7: A lot of teams will load the box and yet

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Speaker 7: he made his case, and guess what he got rewarded

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Speaker 6: Number two rushing yards per carry five point three yards. Okay,

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Speaker 6: so hand the ball off twice, Robin, You've got a

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Speaker 6: first down. It sounds simple, but again it's not that simple.

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Speaker 6: But that's how effective the Cardinals run game was in

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it is, you know, and I think the players

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Speaker 8: So there's praise to go around. It's not just the

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Speaker 8: running the football. But the offensive line did their job

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Speaker 8: this past season in terms of running the ball, running

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Speaker 6: Wasn't that long ago that Justin Pugh was a part

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Speaker 6: though he did tell you Paul and Ron Wiffley last

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Speaker 9: I did love the way that he came out and

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Speaker 9: who can be that change of pace guy, it really

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Speaker 9: sets a tone that when you come and play the

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Speaker 9: Arizona Cardinals, this is how we're gonna make our living.

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Speaker 9: I really love how the Cardinals are building their identity

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Speaker 9: because that's something that I think we lacked at times

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Speaker 6: You want to have that run first mentality, despite the

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Speaker 6: even when you're trailing, Drew Petsing's gonna dial it up

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Speaker 6: You're doing something in the second quarter that maybe doesn't

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Speaker 6: back to that because we saw them do something. We're

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And Craig, no team in the NFL comes out

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Speaker 8: with more multiple tight end sets, two tight ends, three

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Speaker 8: the tight endosition group later on, but the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 8: love that. They love to come out with those multiple

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Speaker 8: let's get ready for the run. Let's load up here,

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Speaker 8: and you know, the Arizona Cardinals will run it. They're

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Speaker 8: not afraid to run it, even when the numbers are

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Speaker 8: not dictating that they should in the box. But it

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Speaker 8: sets up so well for that play action pass to

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Speaker 8: come off of it. And Kyler Murray really did a

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Speaker 8: good job of selling the playfake. This season, and the

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Speaker 8: play action pass that comes off of it just benefits

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Speaker 7: You heard how enthusiastic Justin pew is about the Cardinals

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Speaker 7: offensive identity. I can still hear Kyler Murray after last season,

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Speaker 7: right sitting in this very studio, in this very seat

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Speaker 7: last offseason talking about how the Cardinals became a team

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Speaker 7: no one wanted to play, quote end quote, and that

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Speaker 7: really has been their identity, especially on offense. In a

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Speaker 7: kramat vertical here it comes. Can you stop it? But

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Speaker 7: then to Rob's point, also they'll keep a defense honest

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Speaker 7: enough with different personnel packages where Kyler has the ability

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Speaker 7: it's been a tough scheme for defensive coordinators to go

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Speaker 7: add the running thread of a Kyler Murray and I'm

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Speaker 7: excited to see what they do in year three, what

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Speaker 7: more they add, because I think you did see a

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Speaker 6: I don't think the identity is going to change, it's

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Speaker 6: just maybe some tweaks. To your point, Paul, what can

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Speaker 6: new offensive line coach, Justin Frye officially hired. And we

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Speaker 6: okay with this move, Rob, considering that fry most recently

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Speaker 8: Well Michigan State. See, they weren't really a factor the

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Speaker 8: the familiarity with Paris, I think it's a I think

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Speaker 8: for for for this for this offensive line to continue

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Speaker 8: they have. Now you have an identity, but you always

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Speaker 8: want to improve the parts of it. You always want

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Speaker 7: And the big red rage justin pughe said, hey, Paris

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Speaker 7: He looked up at him right, you know, a six

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Speaker 7: about to call him sir. And he said, that's when

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Speaker 7: I knew maybe it was a good time to end

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Speaker 7: at a restaurant. But you know what, Evan Brown was

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Speaker 7: on a one year deal. We don't know his future.

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Speaker 7: Now that you have your franchise left tackle, and Peke

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Speaker 7: called him, Look, Cardinals franchise left tackle for the next decade.

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Speaker 7: Can you find that left guard and pair him those

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Speaker 6: When this news first broke that Justin Frye was going

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Speaker 4: The snap to May back two steps, looks to the

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Speaker 7: Drake May is the new England Patriots starting quarterback right up.

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Speaker 7: Did you come across Drake May and the whole draft

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Speaker 6: Or I mean you in the elevator of the combine,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, that was the only interaction I have with you.

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Speaker 6: Expect a lot of those kind of interactions when you

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Speaker 7: Could be like a game show. Name the most famous

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Speaker 7: Will Ferrell. Once I was in a Stay Cool, Paul,

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Speaker 7: Stay Cole. It's Will Ferrell. Don't don't be a fanboy.

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Speaker 6: Upon a time.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't surprised sometimes, you know, especially at State

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Speaker 7: It's true that was a lapse in security, and it

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Speaker 6: different when not to date you again, Rob, but when

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Speaker 6: Who you are as a person. Because everyone watches film,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that price of admission that Jonathan Gannon refers to.

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Speaker 8: miss days? Was he sick? Was he? You know? Is

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Speaker 8: he that kind of guy? Or is he the guy

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Speaker 8: that first in last out, went to every class, got

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Speaker 8: straight a's. You know, do does the little things that

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Speaker 8: seemingly go unnoticed but are very important to determine your

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Speaker 8: character and what kind of guy you're going to be.

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Speaker 7: At the same time, don't think that you can't wow

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Speaker 7: the talent evaluators if you crush the combine for sure.

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Speaker 7: I just, you know, I wanted to verify my recollection.

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Speaker 7: And here's the headline from two years ago. Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 7: is the most asked, most athletic quarterback prospect ever detested

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Speaker 7: the NFL combine, and he went number four. Do you

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Speaker 7: think he ever would have gone number four based on

448
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Speaker 7: starting what fourteen games in college and having really inconsistent

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Speaker 7: resume of performances at the college level, But he just

450
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Speaker 7: killed it. Sort of like Zach Wilson had a great

451
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Speaker 7: throwing on air session, ended up the number two pick,

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Speaker 7: Xavier Worthy of four two, one forty. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: he's a first round wide receiver. So you can drastically

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Speaker 7: change your draft profile based on what you do in

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Speaker 7: some of these some of these drills that you're right,

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Speaker 7: Craig guys now hire coaches and they trained for months

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Speaker 7: just to nail that particular drill.

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Speaker 6: The workouts, the interviews, the medicals. Manty Austin for a

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Speaker 6: Cardinals gentlem manager. This was a couple of years back

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Speaker 6: in Indianapolis, talking about why he or where he sees

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Speaker 6: the biggest benefit in the scouting combine.

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Speaker 12: The most important thing that we get out of this

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Speaker 12: week is the medical evaluations, is the players being here

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Speaker 12: and having our doctors and having our trainers getting a

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Speaker 12: chance to examine the players and just find out where

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Speaker 12: they are physically. And really the second most important thing

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Speaker 12: that I get out of this is to face to

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Speaker 12: FaceTime when we interview with the players, both in the

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Speaker 12: formal settings and the informal meeting that our coaches are doing.

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Speaker 12: And then we'll get into the workouts as well. Those

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Speaker 12: are important but I'd put the medical in the interviews

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Speaker 12: up above the on field.

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Speaker 6: Workouts, and that, to your point, Rob, is what you

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Speaker 6: were talking about. Maybe that switch over the last five, six,

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Speaker 6: seven years. As far as where teams are in this

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Speaker 6: case Manty Austin Ford, how do they value these opportunities

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Speaker 6: see these players either on a football field or in

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Speaker 6: a suite. When you get the one on one time

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Speaker 6: and then ye, all right, are you hurt, are you injured?

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Speaker 6: What's your history? We can see what it says here,

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Speaker 6: but let's go get your checked out. Just to make sure.

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you. These medical staff they are like district

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Speaker 8: attorneys in a deposition. They will ask you these questions

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Speaker 8: that seem kind of innocuous or just you know, very

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Speaker 8: very vanilla questions like and they'll get you to say

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Speaker 8: something and they'll just find that and dig into it.

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Speaker 8: Like I made the mistake of admitting that I got

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Speaker 8: a stinger once in college. I got stingers on almost

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Speaker 8: every hit, but I wasn't going to say that, but

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Speaker 8: I they somehow got it out of me that I

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Speaker 8: did get a stinger in college. I spent the rest

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Speaker 8: of the day in some medical a building getting cat

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Speaker 8: scans and MRIs and who knows what, because you know

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Speaker 8: you've got a stinger, you might have a neck issue

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Speaker 8: or something. And anyway, the medical portion of the of

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Speaker 8: the combine is the hardest, I think for the players

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Speaker 8: because you are going from team to team, team doctor

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Speaker 8: to team doctor and everybody asking the same questions, and

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Speaker 8: you know, it's it's it's a lot on the players.

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Speaker 8: It is an awful lot, and you know you get

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Speaker 8: through it, but it's it's tough.

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Speaker 7: Here's the good news. Daniel Jeremiah right NFL dot com

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Speaker 7: and one of the premier draft analysts in the media.

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Speaker 7: He tweeted out about a week or so ago. Last

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Speaker 7: year this time, I had potential starter grades on twelve

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Speaker 7: a dozen defensive tackles. This year, I we have twenty

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Speaker 7: four of them. A ridiculous amount of depth at the

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Speaker 7: D line spot, both interior and edge, and there are

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Speaker 7: a lot of SEC caliber defensive lineman and edge guys

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Speaker 7: who are at this combine. In fact, the SEC has

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Speaker 7: put in one hundred and five players and the next

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Speaker 7: highest total is the Big Ten with seventy nine. And

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Speaker 7: so you got teams like Ole Miss in South Carolina

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Speaker 7: and Texas and Georgia all a double digit number of

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Speaker 7: players in this combine. It's really deep along that defensive front,

516
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Speaker 7: and it's nearly as deep an offensive linemen. So that's

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Speaker 7: really good news if you're looking for a dude with

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Speaker 7: his hand in the dirt.

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Speaker 6: Well, Daniel just released his second mock draft earlier on

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Speaker 6: NFL dot Com and had a defensive tackle mocked to

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals at sixteen. Now, his first mock had an

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Speaker 6: offensive lineman and interior guard. But again, the needs that

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals have, or at least what we perceive the

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Speaker 6: needs are going into this draft, rob is something that

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Speaker 6: is plentiful as far as, okay, the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 6: whether that's an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman. And yeah,

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Speaker 6: if you if you need one, you should be able

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Speaker 6: to find one.

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Speaker 8: And you know, offensive line, defensive line. Okay, So there's

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Speaker 8: a there's a theory or you know, a lot of

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Speaker 8: teams espoused to as you draft the best player available

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Speaker 8: regardless of position. I don't always agree with that. I

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Speaker 8: think you look at the positions of need and you

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Speaker 8: rank them, and who are the best players within those

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Speaker 8: positions of need? And surely the offensive and defensive line

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Speaker 8: for the Arizona Cardinals have to be at the top

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Speaker 8: of the list. And whoever's there at sixteen or wherever

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Speaker 8: the Cardinals pick, you know, if it's an offensive line,

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Speaker 8: defensive line. Have said it before, if your hand's not

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Speaker 8: in the dirt, you're not getting drafted. Take them, Take

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Speaker 8: whoever it is, whether it's offensive line or defensive line.

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Speaker 7: And if you're at that point in the draft and

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Speaker 7: it is really deep and there are a lot of

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Speaker 7: players that you have similar grades on, what does that

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Speaker 7: usually mean? After two years with Montio support, trade down,

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Speaker 7: trade down, get more picks and get a player similar

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Speaker 7: grade and then just maxim your bites at the Apple

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Speaker 7: get more. I mean, look at it. They had a

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Speaker 7: dozen draft picks a year ago. This season before they

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Speaker 7: had the most snaps by any rookie class in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: So that is the pattern, that is where this front

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Speaker 7: office is trending.

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Speaker 6: Mani has gone from twelve draft picks to just six

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Speaker 6: this season, one in each of the first five rounds

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Speaker 6: and then a seventh round selection. So yeah, my guess

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Speaker 6: is MANI would like a couple more bites at the

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Speaker 6: Apple out to wait and see what happens at the

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Speaker 6: end of April, but next week the scouting combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk about that more as we continue here on

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals Red Sea report on the Arizona Cardinals Radio.

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Speaker 2: Network drops back deep throws far aside on a short

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Speaker 2: pass caught by Ryman, bounces off at a fender at

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Speaker 2: the forty two and then shoved out a bounce at

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Speaker 2: the forty two. Tip Rymans first NFL catch the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: run bends at left side. He's got some root with

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Speaker 2: the thirty five to forty forty five fault.

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Speaker 5: What a great block by tip Ryman on the back

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Speaker 5: side as well. Oh you can still hear the screaming

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Speaker 5: of the lamps. Are you kidding me? Light up and

570
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Speaker 5: suck the metaphorical beating heart right out of the Jets.

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Speaker 5: Run it right down their throat. Oh my goodness, that

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Speaker 5: was a great job right there. Tip Ryman at the

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Speaker 5: point of attack just jacked up Aiden Hutchinson, put him

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Speaker 5: on wheels and buried him.

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Speaker 9: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Not a player that is going to wow you with

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Speaker 6: his stats. Tip Ryman as a rookie six catches thirty

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Speaker 6: seven yards, but he was on the field for a

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Speaker 6: good amount of snaps in twenty twenty four, as we

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Speaker 6: say welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red seaer Boy,

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Speaker 6: Craig Reia, Lupaul Calvic and Rob Frederickson put in the

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Speaker 6: spotlights on the tight end room and specifically those guys,

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Speaker 6: as Robbie you like to say, I have a hand

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Speaker 6: in their dirt, but are more looking to block first

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Speaker 6: then release. They're not the playmakers that a Trey McBride is,

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Speaker 6: at least not as of yet. But Tip Ryman a

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Speaker 6: third round draft pick and maybe a little bit of

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Speaker 6: a high value pick, especially for position that maybe you

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Speaker 6: weren't going to get a lot of production. But we

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Speaker 6: talk about it two three tight end sets and Ryman

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Speaker 6: was on the field I think for a good forty

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Speaker 6: to forty five percent of the offensive snaps this season.

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Speaker 6: So again maybe not statistically, but he showed something in

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Speaker 6: college and showed something this entire season that kept the

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Speaker 6: coaches putting them out on a football field for no

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Speaker 6: other reason to be that six guy as far as

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Speaker 6: to run, block or pass protect.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think a lot of people kind of scratch

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Speaker 8: their head when the Arizona Cardinels selected Tip Ryman. But

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Speaker 8: I'm looking back at it, it makes sense obviously, the

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Speaker 8: style of offense Arizona Cardinals want to run, the personnel groupings

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Speaker 8: and the use of the tight ends both in the

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Speaker 8: pass game and the running game. It it just makes sense.

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Speaker 8: And you look back at at last season. Yeah, he

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Speaker 8: played in every game. I think he started nine games.

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Speaker 8: Tip Ryman had a really good rookie season. I think

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Speaker 8: he started out a little slow and just kind of

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Speaker 8: trying to find his footing and find his way. But

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Speaker 8: the blocking is is there. That's that's really the mainstay

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Speaker 8: of his game and what he was drafted for. And

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Speaker 8: I think underrated is his ability to get involved in

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Speaker 8: the passing game and he wasn't. He wasn't used a

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Speaker 8: lot in the passing game for the Arizona Cardinals last year.

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Speaker 8: But I think he has the ability to be that.

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Speaker 8: He's athletic enough to be a to be a factor

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Speaker 8: in the passing game going forward. So yeah, it's a

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Speaker 8: bright future for tip Ryman. I think it was a

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Speaker 8: really a solid pick for the Arizona Cardinals, especially given

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Speaker 8: the style of offense that they want to run.

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Speaker 7: Greg, you say he's not going to wow you with

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Speaker 7: his stats, Well, I say not yet.

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Speaker 6: Okay, it's common.

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Speaker 7: You gotta get the tight end screen in there. You

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Speaker 7: got to check the ball down to him who wants

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Speaker 7: them right. What the dbs or what the receivers call

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Speaker 7: turn down service? Okay, those dvs are like, you know what,

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Speaker 7: I'm not getting off this block because I see a

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Speaker 7: two hundred and eighty two pound tight end, hard charging

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Speaker 7: dude in space. Here he comes, and either that our

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Speaker 7: guys are diving at his shoe strings because that could

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Speaker 7: be a force. And his hands are better than you think,

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Speaker 7: so no doubt. His primary job description is blocking, okay,

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Speaker 7: and paving the way for the Cardinals rushing attack, making

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Speaker 7: sure that Trey McBride can get open in space and

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Speaker 7: Kyle the Murray has time.

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Speaker 6: But I do believe as this.

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Speaker 7: Offense evolves, and he got some really firm footing in

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Speaker 7: the last couple months of the season, like a lot

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Speaker 7: of rookies. After he navigated that rookie learning curve and

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Speaker 7: he was playing instead of thinking and just hearing him

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Speaker 7: talk and we had him on the big red rage,

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Speaker 7: you realize how much more comfortable he is getting and

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Speaker 7: how much more of an offensive weapon he can become.

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Speaker 7: He was not featured hardly at all at Illinois. But

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Speaker 7: in the All Star Games and in all the testing

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Speaker 7: leading up the draft, his athleticism scores were through the roof.

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Speaker 7: And he has really sound hands. He's not Trey McBride,

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Speaker 7: but he has really good hands, reliable hands, and I

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Speaker 7: don't think Kyler ever hesitates to target him if he's open.

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Speaker 6: And then get that last point there, what you said

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Speaker 6: about Kyler and the trust as a quarterback, trust you.

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Speaker 6: If I throw you at the football, you're gonna make

653
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Speaker 6: the catch. And again, it wasn't targeted a lot tip

654
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Speaker 6: rime in this season, but when he was targeted, he

655
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 6: does have solid hands, and he was running over a

656
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Speaker 6: lot of routes. And again, got five guys out there

657
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Speaker 6: running around and maybe you don't get targeted, but I

658
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Speaker 6: never saw him once. Paul like, really slacker, Just okay,

659
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 6: I know the ball's not coming by way. I'm like

660
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Speaker 6: the fourth or fifth read, I'm just gonna go No, No,

661
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Speaker 6: he was. He was doing what he was supposed to

662
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Speaker 6: do to make sure every single rep was one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: Here's a guy who was a walk on, right. I mean,

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Speaker 7: here's a guy who came from a small high school

665
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Speaker 7: South Dakota, and then all of a sudden, he's having

666
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Speaker 7: to walk on, just begging for a chance to play

667
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Speaker 7: D one football, and then he gradually earned his spot,

668
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 7: earned his reps, earned his snaps, and the trust of

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Speaker 7: the coaches, and then all of a sudden, he's a

670
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Speaker 7: third round draft pick and guess what he's involved in

671
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 7: nearly half the offensive snaps. So I think the foundation

672
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Speaker 7: is there, the work ethic is there. It's never been

673
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Speaker 7: easy for him. No one's ever declared him a five

674
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Speaker 7: star prospect, but in terms of what he's able to

675
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Speaker 7: bring right now, I think if he does keep working,

676
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Speaker 7: and there's no reason to think he won't, there's still

677
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Speaker 7: some serious upside I think in his game as a

678
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Speaker 7: weapon in both in the trenches and downfield.

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Speaker 6: And he's got a great leader, someone that he can

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Speaker 6: watch and be mentored by, and that is Trey McBride.

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Speaker 6: In fact, Tip Rieman talked about how valuable Tray has

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Speaker 6: been to him earlier in the season on the Big

683
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Speaker 6: Red Rage.

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Speaker 11: I've learned a lot from him so far and how

685
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Speaker 11: he reads keys of dbs and linebackers, anybody you know

686
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Speaker 11: playing him in Man, I've learned a lot on that front,

687
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Speaker 11: and even in the blocking game like, he's got a

688
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Speaker 11: lot of unique things that he's learned and carried over

689
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Speaker 11: and given to me that I get to use now. So,

690
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Speaker 11: you know, little tidbits here and there are really really effective.

691
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Speaker 11: And he's been doing that since Ota so's it's been awesome.

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Speaker 6: And I think Trey's a great example. Rob is someone

693
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Speaker 6: who comes in maybe known as more of a at

694
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Speaker 6: least with Trey was more of a pass catcher Ryman

695
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Speaker 6: comes in more as a blocker. Yet what we see

696
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Speaker 6: out of Trey, he developed more into a great blocker,

697
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Speaker 6: more that dual threat. That's to say that Trey of

698
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Speaker 6: that tip can't become that past catching tight end to

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Speaker 6: go along with his blocking.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's certainly possible. And look, Trey McBride not the

701
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Speaker 8: biggest tight end in the world. He's probably two forty

702
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Speaker 8: to forty five. But he's always been a willing blocker

703
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Speaker 8: and I think Trey has noticed that that aspect of

704
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Speaker 8: his game, the blocking was something that need to be

705
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Speaker 8: addressed and need to be improved upon. And he's done that.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's he's he's learned the techniques, he's learned

707
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Speaker 8: how to use his leverage, his speed, his quickness, to

708
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Speaker 8: leverage guys and get get get defenders in a position

709
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Speaker 8: where you know he can't make the tackle, he can't

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Speaker 8: make the play. And Trey has done a remarkable job

711
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Speaker 8: at that and becoming a all around tight end, all

712
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Speaker 8: around all pro tight end. And you know it certainly

713
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 8: is somebody that that tip Ryman can learn a lot

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Speaker 8: from even in the blocking uh game, in terms of

715
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Speaker 8: just using quickness and using positioning and leverage to get

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Speaker 8: the defender in a position where he can't make a play.

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Speaker 8: So he couldn't ask tip Ryman, couldn't ask for a

718
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Speaker 8: for a better teacher than Trey McBride.

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Speaker 7: I like to tweak Wolf, and it's, you know, come on, Wolf,

720
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Speaker 7: Trey McBride, he's now a pro bowler, you know, nearly

721
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Speaker 7: led the league and received He had more catches this

722
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Speaker 7: year than fits ever had in a season for the

723
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Speaker 7: Arizona Cardinal. He can't be bothered with blocking anymore. He's

724
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Speaker 7: a playmaker. He's a pass catcher. And then you can

725
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Speaker 7: just see Wolf start to his face starts to get

726
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Speaker 7: red and the steam starts coming out of his ears.

727
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Speaker 7: But to Rob's play, no, I think Trey McBride, even

728
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Speaker 7: after he gets paid this offseason, we figure he's still

729
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Speaker 7: gonna be that dual guy and he'll be asked to

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Speaker 7: do that. I mean, that's something where Drew Petsy and

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Speaker 7: John again, I'm like, no, no, you play tight end'

732
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Speaker 7: You're gonna be involved in the blocking scheme and the

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Speaker 7: pass catching game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The versatility at that position is key, something Justin Hugh

736
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Speaker 6: noted last week on the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 9: John I love tray ming bride does it all. He

738
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Speaker 9: does the dirty work. He runs across the middle, he blocks.

739
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Speaker 9: You can leave Trey mc bride out there an eleven personnel,

740
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 9: which is three receivers in one tight end, you can

741
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 9: still run one back power and he'll then release and

742
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Speaker 9: run by the starting safety. He is such a mismatch.

743
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Speaker 9: He's gonna be a guy that will be one of

744
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Speaker 9: the highest, if not the highest paid tight end in football.

745
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Speaker 9: And you're just happy he's on your team and not

746
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Speaker 9: on someone else.

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Speaker 6: The other tight ends in that room Elijah Higgins, who

748
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Speaker 6: again this is a wide receiver in college converted to

749
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Speaker 6: a tight end. Travis Vocalleec expected to be back. He's

750
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Speaker 6: an exclusion the rights free agents, so if the team

751
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 6: wants him back, he'll be back. And then, speaking of

752
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 6: being back, Bernhard Psychowitz, his back, signed to a futures

753
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 6: deal at the end of the season. Could this be

754
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Speaker 6: the year finally for Psycho to be someone on the

755
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Speaker 6: football field.

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Speaker 7: Well, if the Cardinals end up going to Berlin, he'll

757
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 7: be really valuable. You know, he'll come in here.

758
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Speaker 6: That's what you're hoping, You're you're secretly hoping that that's

759
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Speaker 6: the case.

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Speaker 7: You know, the guy who's teaching the other tight ends

761
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Speaker 7: in the room how to speak German. I mean, he'd

762
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 7: be invaluable for that, for that trip there. But you know,

763
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 7: there are many position groups. I think where you look

764
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Speaker 7: at the Cardinals roster right now and it's year three,

765
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 7: maniasa word, Jonathan Gann where you say, you know what

766
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 7: they're not gonna add, you know, quarterback? Maybe they do

767
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Speaker 7: go for a quarterback, you know, maybe safety. I don't know,

768
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Speaker 7: we'll see Jalen Thompson. You know, speculation there.

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Speaker 6: What do you do?

770
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Speaker 7: But you took rabbit, but tight end. I don't see

771
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Speaker 7: the Cardinals using a draft pick on a tight end.

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Speaker 7: I thought Elijah Higgins had really good second season. Make

773
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Speaker 7: that conversion from a wide receiver low key excellent year,

774
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Speaker 7: and each one of those tight ends is so different.

775
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 7: McBride is so different from Tip Ryman, who's different from

776
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Speaker 7: Elijah Higgins. You know, that bigger guy long strider can

777
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Speaker 7: really operate at the second third level of a defense.

778
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Speaker 7: We've seen that, and he's big enough to get in

779
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Speaker 7: there at the point of attack and hold his own.

780
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Speaker 7: So maybe there's an undrafted rookie free agent or maybe

781
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Speaker 7: a veteran free agent of types they can add at

782
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Speaker 7: a minimum salary. Other than that, I think this is

783
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Speaker 7: your tight end group next year.

784
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Speaker 6: Health certainly plays a factor in that. Rob you stay healthy,

785
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Speaker 6: there might not be any more room for someone, but

786
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Speaker 6: you always want to, as they say, upgrade the position.

787
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Speaker 6: It just might be hard at the tight end position

788
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Speaker 6: for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with Paul. I think this position group

790
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 8: is set. I don't know that you can upgrade it.

791
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Speaker 8: I love all the three of the guys that see

792
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Speaker 8: significant playing time. Elijah Higgins has really done an excellent

793
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Speaker 8: job converting from wide receiver. So I love the tight

794
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Speaker 8: end group they have going into the offseason.

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Speaker 6: I want to see that tight end group in action

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Speaker 6: the Scouting Combine which takes place next week in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: That's next on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 12: And Sudden.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to finding the right fit, it's about

805
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: the price of admission, which not everybody pays.

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Speaker 10: How much is the price of.

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Speaker 7: Admission to become an Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a lot. And what we're talking about there

809
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 13: is the people that they are in their football character.

810
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Speaker 13: So we like to look for certain things, you know,

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Speaker 13: just as they're going through their college career. What that

812
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 13: looks like for us when they submerge into our culture

813
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 13: with the Arizona Cardinals, what we think is needed to

814
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Speaker 13: get the job done.

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Speaker 6: We talked about it earlier here on the Cardinals Reds.

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00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: You report the price of admission and you heard part

817
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Speaker 6: of a conversation from last year's scouting combine. Our colleague

818
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Speaker 6: Danny Serrexity down with head coach Johnthan Gannon on trying

819
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Speaker 6: to figure out, Yeah, gotta have talent to play in

820
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Speaker 6: the National Football League, but you got to be a

821
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Speaker 6: kind of a certain mindset and be a certain kind

822
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Speaker 6: of person to be in that Arizona Cardinals locker room.

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Speaker 6: Do you love football, do you have a passion for

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Speaker 6: the sports? And then oh, yeah, can you play this

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Speaker 6: sport as well? Because we all have passions, which just

826
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Speaker 6: are we good at that passion? So, but there is

827
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Speaker 6: a specific person that they want in that Cardinals locker room.

828
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Speaker 6: Team first or if you're not team first, rub, it

829
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Speaker 6: doesn't matter how talented you are, you're not gonna be

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Speaker 6: in this Cardinals locker room.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and that speaks to the culture that Jonathan Gannon

832
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Speaker 8: has established here. And you think about for these young players,

833
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 8: your your game film that you know, that's your resume,

834
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Speaker 8: the combine, that's the job, interview references. Now they're gonna

835
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Speaker 8: go ask coaches, They're gonna go ask trainers, They're gonna

836
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Speaker 8: ask you ask your college strength coach who probably has

837
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Speaker 8: the strength coaches probably have the closest relationship to players,

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Speaker 8: you know, and they're gonna they're gonna check those references.

839
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Speaker 8: They're gonna find out what kind of person you are,

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Speaker 8: what kind of player you are, what can we expect

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Speaker 8: at the next level. So you know this, this is

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Speaker 8: an exciting time for a lot of these young players

843
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 8: as they enter potentially, you know, the the NFL and

844
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 8: and gain and life changing money, life changing opportunity. So

845
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Speaker 8: this is this is what it's all about. And you

846
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 8: know they're they're about to enter in that into that

847
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Speaker 8: job interview phase and that combine, and that's exciting.

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Speaker 7: And just like the players hire coaches to train for

849
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Speaker 7: all the drills the three cone, don't think the agents

850
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Speaker 7: don't coach up the players on how to attack the

851
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 7: interviews and how to properly answer the questions. Because you're

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Speaker 7: gonna do a whole battery of these interviews, and they're

853
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Speaker 7: fifteen minutes each, you can get a lot of the

854
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Speaker 7: same questions. Obviously, Rob must have nailed his interview process

855
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Speaker 7: back in the day. He was a first round pick.

856
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Speaker 7: So at that point, did you ever get coached up?

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Speaker 7: Did you did your agent ever say, okay, look, here's

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Speaker 7: a list of questions you can expect be ready to

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Speaker 7: answer these dozen No.

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Speaker 8: I back then that the interviews were few and far between.

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Speaker 8: There was maybe a handful of teams that would pull

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Speaker 8: you into their hotel room for an interview. The the

863
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 8: on the field stuff was was what was really being measured.

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Speaker 8: And I knew all that cold and I did train

865
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Speaker 8: for all those those drills, but some guys didn't, and that,

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Speaker 8: to me was was remarkable.

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Speaker 6: Those interviews and what you say, how you come across

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Speaker 6: can be the difference between whether you hear your name

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Speaker 6: called or not by that particular player. We mentioned Garrett

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Speaker 6: Williams and how his interview went two years ago. Well,

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Speaker 6: how about we flashed back Cardinals flight plan and when

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Speaker 6: Garrett Williams got that phone call, how you doing?

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Speaker 14: Man?

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Speaker 2: Doing good?

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Speaker 6: Congratulations, appreciate you.

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Speaker 13: You come in here and deny the ball or what?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know, I know it.

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Speaker 14: How you're doing this is Monty as support from the

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Speaker 14: Cardinals get there. What are you doing where you at?

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna Charlotte man, I'm gonna Charte Nook fell On.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, you got some people around you, you hang who

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Speaker 14: are you hanging out with?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: My family, my friends, all that.

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Speaker 14: Man, you got your family and your friends. Well, guess

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Speaker 14: what you're about to tell you you're gonna be an

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Speaker 14: Arizona Cardinal, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll do it, man, let's do it.

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Speaker 14: We are we are excited that we're going to get

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Speaker 14: you in here. You remember you remember that meeting we

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Speaker 14: have with you at the combine the man you're made

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Speaker 14: of the stuff that we're working for.

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Speaker 15: But now, with the seventy second pick in the twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty three NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Garrett Williams,

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Speaker 15: defensive back Syracuse.

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Speaker 6: A phone call, one single phone call, can change your life,

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Speaker 6: and it does for a number of different players. And

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Speaker 6: you just heard Garrett Williams two years ago getting that

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Speaker 6: phone call from GM Monti Austin.

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Speaker 8: For Yeah, it's it's amazing. I still remember the time

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Speaker 8: Al Davis called me and and so we're gonna make

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Speaker 8: you alreeda. Yeah, I'll never forget that. And these these

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Speaker 8: guys will never forget that that phone call and how

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Speaker 8: special it is and what they're able to make of it.

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Speaker 7: And you heard Manias Sports site, the meeting, the interview.

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Speaker 7: It's amazing. Don't think it doesn't leave an impression. Don't

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Speaker 7: think it doesn't convince a front office. It might be

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Speaker 7: leaning your way to actually put your name on that

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Speaker 7: card and submit it to the league office. It is

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Speaker 7: that pivotal in some cases. How you interview at the Combine.

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Speaker 6: NFL Scotting Combine all next week. In fact, I'll be

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Speaker 6: headed to Indianapolis as well, and nice maybe joining you

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Speaker 6: guys here on the Cardinals Red Sare Report. But yes,

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Speaker 6: three and twenty nine college prospects and a whole bunch

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Speaker 6: of NFL personnel.

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Speaker 7: Better check Reelou's expense report twice. That's my shout out

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Speaker 7: to accounting.

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Speaker 6: Special Thanks behind the scenes, Jim Imahunder, Cody Fincher, Evan Reiser,

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Speaker 6: Rod Ferderckson, Paul Galvic. I'm Craig real LOUI will talk

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Speaker 6: to you in one week's time.

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Speaker 16: Here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, you've been listening

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Speaker 16: to the Cardinals Red Sea Report.

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Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's a touchdown boot a Baker with the sacked

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Speaker 3: strip the ball where he's gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Oh baby.

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Speaker 6: Touchdown Cardinals whim.

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