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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how's everybody doing here on a Tuesday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is a program.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us and spending the afternoon here as

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Speaker 2: we begin to turn the page from now the latest

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Speaker 2: loss to the Ravens on Sunday night over to the

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans. Texans, I don't know, they're an interest team.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk to ESPN's Dan Orlovsky about this a

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Speaker 2: little bit more when he joins us in the second

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Speaker 2: hour of the show in his weekly appearance. But there

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Speaker 2: are some interesting things to kind of uncover, not only

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Speaker 2: with what ailed the Bills last week, but for the

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Speaker 2: Texans what the deal is with them, because their offensive

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Speaker 2: firepower is noteworthy, but it has been I think inconsistent

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Speaker 2: is a fair description through the first four games of

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Speaker 2: their season. You know, they were sputtering last week before

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Speaker 2: they kicked it into gear just in time to beat

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Speaker 2: a winless Jacksonville team last week. So the firepower is there,

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Speaker 2: it could go off at any moment, but there have

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Speaker 2: been stretches of play for the Texans through their first

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Speaker 2: four games where you're like what's going on here? Like

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Speaker 2: it's not unlike what we were saying about the Bills

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Speaker 2: offense last year, Like why does it look so hard?

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Speaker 2: What's going on here? Not even averaging twenty points a

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Speaker 2: game right now? And I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: going into this season, we're expecting the Texans offense to

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Speaker 2: be one of the more prolific this season. That has

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Speaker 2: not been the case, right.

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Speaker 1: And I think one things I do when we get

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Speaker 1: into these preparation for the game, I go back and

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Speaker 1: look where our offense is ranked throughout all these statistics,

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Speaker 1: and then look where the defense is ranked through all

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Speaker 1: these statistics. And I always and I don't really get

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Speaker 1: too much into the rankings except that unless you got

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Speaker 1: something in your DNA that is top five in the league,

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Speaker 1: top five in the league in this league means you're

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Speaker 1: doing something right. And the Bills right now, they're on offense,

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Speaker 1: they're top they're second in the league in scoring, even

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Speaker 1: in scoring, and they're third in point differential. They're third

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Speaker 1: in red zone efficiency, so they're scoring a lot of

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Speaker 1: touchdowns when they get in the red zone. They're tied

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Speaker 1: the things that kind of going under the radar. The

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Speaker 1: Bills are not turning it over one turnover in two

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Speaker 1: turnovers in four games, no interceptions, tied for second plus

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Speaker 1: five turnover margin of course, because they're not turning it

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Speaker 1: over and they're getting some turnovers. Defensively, the Bills are

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Speaker 1: top five in yards per pass attempt, they're tied for

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Speaker 1: fifth in interceptions, they're tied for fifth in takeaways, and

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Speaker 1: they're fifth in allowed passer rating for their quarterbacks. So

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Speaker 1: they're doing some pretty good things defensively and offensively top

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Speaker 1: five and a couple of those statistics. The Texans offense

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Speaker 1: it around pretty good. They're third in big plays like

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Speaker 2: They're also fourth in red zone touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Right and they're also right efficiency, so they're also you know,

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Speaker 1: So they're not scoring a lot of points, but on

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Speaker 1: there they get a couple of good big plays a

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Speaker 2: I think what's hurt them is they've been without their

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Speaker 2: top two running backs the last few weeks and it

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Speaker 2: has compromised the balance of their offense. So they've relied

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Speaker 2: heavily on the passing game. Teams are focusing on that, and.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have had injuries on their defense to some

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Speaker 2: Joe Mixons overcome that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they've been rather one dimensional and how they've

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Speaker 1: You know, both's going to be at the Receiver Vision

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Speaker 1: which is I don't know. It'll be an away game too,

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Speaker 1: first one we've had this season, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one o'clock away game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so interesting.

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Speaker 2: So we'll be even earlier for those of us there

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Speaker 2: because it'll be noon's Central time. It's like you wake

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Speaker 2: Don't change my clock on those things, like for an hour,

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Speaker 2: for thirty six hours. You know, I'm not adjusting to

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Speaker 1: You're yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: There's no need to do that one thing.

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Speaker 1: And one of the interesting things. Yeah, okay, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't change your thing, all right, I'll just tell myself,

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Speaker 2: Then it's an hour, be like that. It's an hour.

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Speaker 1: You can be like that.

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Speaker 2: I will apparently, it's only an hour.

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Speaker 2: Time, right, I can do that. It's totally fun.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen. We're in the time of year where sports

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Speaker 1: is all over the map. The NBA starts up in October,

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Speaker 1: major League Baseball playoffs, the w NBA playoffs, the NBA

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Speaker 1: the NFL's in full swing. College football is in full swing.

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Speaker 1: It's man, it's hockey starting. Hockey's NHL's back in the saddle.

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Speaker 1: They are preseasons over, they're gonna start, man, it's let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. October is a big month.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, awesome month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why, you know, I gotta fight for the

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Speaker 2: remote sometimes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a fun and it's a fun, fun

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Speaker 1: of the month, you know, Halloween, fun holiday, not your favorite.

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Speaker 1: Even if it's not your favorite, still you know fun.

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Speaker 2: My my daughter lives for Halloween really like it's her thing.

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Speaker 2: Has been planning. First of all, there are multiple costumes.

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Speaker 2: That's number one.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have multiple events to wear multiple number two.

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Speaker 2: Number two, she she plans months in advance, these costumes.

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Speaker 2: It's just h it's bananas, She'll So she visited us

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Speaker 2: go boots, right, that's but that's hard to find as

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Speaker 2: a full ensemble. Oh sure, you know she don't want

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Speaker 1: Used to be East like all kinds of continental.

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Speaker 2: The amount of time she is devoting to this is scary,

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Speaker 2: and this is only costume number one. It's like I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at her, I'm just like, I wish I had

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Speaker 2: your kind of time, Like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got three well now two two kids that

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I have heard that those were the days. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: those were pretty good. Although I was scraping pennies at

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the idea though.

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Speaker 1: I don't miss that. How do we get I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I got it, I got us.

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Speaker 2: I got well, you said Halloween and then I ran off. Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. I'll let you know how she makes out.

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Speaker 1: I got why this thing, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: on social where the Raiders have started thinking, hey, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't we turn this into around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: which is brought to you by Kaleida Healthy, official healthcare

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Speaker 2: system of the Buffalo Bills, And yes, that is out there.

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Speaker 2: Apparently this all stemmed from an Instagram post about Davante

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Speaker 2: The head coach of the team liked the Instagram post.

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Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce liked it, so then Antonio so then DeVante

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Speaker 2: my gosh, so Adams has said. DeVante Adams said he

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Speaker 2: So here we are now. I did take the time

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Speaker 2: right now he is thirteen and a He would be

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Speaker 2: the pro rated amount would be eight point six million,

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Speaker 2: which is early November. The trade deadline has been moved

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Speaker 2: back to early November at the behest of owners and gms.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to move back another week. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's another week back from the Halloween weekend. And you

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Speaker 2: would also inherit the following non guaranteed granted thirty six

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Speaker 2: thirty six and a quarter million on your twenty six.

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Speaker 1: That's he's thirty two correct. Yeah, I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 2: Not I I'm just making an educated hypothesis here. I'm

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Speaker 2: making an educated guest, this is my hypothesis. I could

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Speaker 2: not see the Bills being interested because of the plans

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Speaker 2: they have in twenty twenty five, which is extension for

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, extension for Greg Russau, extension for Christian Benford. Right,

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Speaker 2: and with all of and those are three pricey positions

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Speaker 2: corner pass, rusher, quarterback. Right, You're not taking on a

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Speaker 2: salary like that for a thirty two year old receiver. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: that's just not the way.

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Speaker 1: That's right. The Bills, you're not gonna get You're not

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Speaker 1: going to get better. And I get DeVante Adams a

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Speaker 1: great player, yes, but it's been a minute since he's

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Speaker 2: Well that some would argue that that's duing part to

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Speaker 2: the fact that he's playing with Aidan O'Connell and Garden.

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Speaker 1: Mitshew, you're gonna plug him into this offense. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I get it, but that that's a

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Speaker 2: And it's not like you're it's not like you're hurting

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Speaker 1: He's high school coach guy into play in this game,

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Speaker 1: A face, shine the guys, somebody's not here right now.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have not confirmed this move. This is just

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Speaker 1: Might not even be a defensive player, although it'd be.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna have eleven defensive line.

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Speaker 1: You have eleven defensive linemen. That's a whole.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we could rule it out, like

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Speaker 1: Maybe, but you would think they would.

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Speaker 2: not forget this. You've got two defensive tackles on your

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Speaker 2: You couldn't do a You can't sign a guy from

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how this all shakes out when the Bills.

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Speaker 2: the around the NFL news. Another Monday night doubleheader last night,

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Speaker 2: and boys had headed the wrong way for the Dolphins here.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley, who just joined the club from Baltimore's practice

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Speaker 2: squad last week, got the start at quarterback for Miami.

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Speaker 2: It did not go well. He was able to stage

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Speaker 2: a couple of field goal drives, but only through for

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Speaker 2: ninety six yards got a penalty that went for a

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Speaker 2: safety as the Dolphins dropped to one to three on

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Speaker 2: the season in a loss to the Titans thirty one

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Speaker 2: to twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Titans also had to make a change of quarterback

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Speaker 2: because their starting quarterback Bill Levis had a shoulder injury

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Speaker 2: left the game. Mason Rudolph replaced him. Did okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: no great shakes. Brian Callahan after the game said, when

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Speaker 2: Levis is one hundred percent healthy, he's still our starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And as far as the Dolphins are concerned, head coach

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel after the game said, there are going to

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Speaker 2: be some changes made going forward. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that's performance related as much as it is if

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Speaker 2: we have Huntley as our quarterback, we have to change

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Speaker 2: how we look on offense. Right for sure, McDaniel, you

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Speaker 2: can't score twelve points and win football game, right But

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Speaker 2: right now Huntley is running to a tongue Bailoa's offense

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Speaker 2: and the and the fringes of it, the stuff that

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Speaker 2: he can run that he can. But there were a

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Speaker 2: couple of times last night when and let's face in,

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Speaker 2: Miami's built around the deep ball with Jalen Waddle and

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, and they they had Tyreek running by himself,

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Speaker 2: but you know, finger close by himself, there was a

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Speaker 2: guy two yards behind, literally two yards behind him, and

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Speaker 2: they couldn't put the ball on him. They get two

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Speaker 2: touchdowns that they completely missed because the quarterback couldn't get

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Speaker 2: the ball on him. Two doesn't miss those throws. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you got talking about a guy who's got three

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Speaker 2: practices with his teammates, Right, there's gonna the timing game

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Speaker 2: isn't gonna look great.

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Speaker 1: Like the one he threw it to Tyreek. He just

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Speaker 1: it was so obvious what happened. He threw it to

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Speaker 1: Tyreek like a normal guy, and Tyreek's flying down the field.

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Speaker 1: Tyreek outruns it, has to stop and come back, and

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Speaker 1: it's an incompletion. The second one, the guy just heaves

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Speaker 1: it and he overthrows Tyreek because he throws it too

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Speaker 1: early and doesn't get enough air under it, and Tyreek

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Speaker 1: can't catch it, can't get up to it. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's obvious. You know, Miami's got.

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Speaker 2: Some practice, is important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami's got an engine under the hood. With Tyreek

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Waddle and those guys, but you know, they

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Speaker 1: can't get it started because they can't get nobody get

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Speaker 1: him the ball, and they haven't had enough practice. And

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Speaker 1: in an NFL season, you're not gonna go out there

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Speaker 1: and have Tyreek run eight go routes in practice on

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday. Just to get this guy used to his speed.

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Speaker 1: You got to kind of get you know, you kind

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Speaker 1: of get up to speed. So it's it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's more like changes. Mike McDaniel's going

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Speaker 1: to have to do for Huntley what he did for

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Speaker 1: Tua all those years, and morph and change and figure

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Speaker 1: out what he's got to do offensively. And he's good

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Speaker 1: at it. McDaniel's you got a kudos to him.

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Speaker 2: Doing it on the fly is not easy, but doing

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Speaker 2: it on the fly and you got it.

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Speaker 1: It's not just this Huntly kid. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: the offensive lines, the tight ends, the running, everybody play design.

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Speaker 1: They got some issues down there. It's and it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a mess. It's a mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He has not been Delta good hand for sure.

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Speaker 2: The other game last night was in Detroit, Lions and Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: and Detroit quarterback Jared Goff perfect eighteen for eighteen passing

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Speaker 2: two hundred ninety two yards two touchdowns. He had a

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Speaker 2: one fifty five eight passer rating. He did take a

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Speaker 2: safety late in the game, so almost perfect. Jamior Gibbs

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery combined for three rushing touchdowns in the forty

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Speaker 2: two to twenty nine victory. This was a track meet.

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Speaker 2: The defense is not a lot to hang their hat on.

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Speaker 1: Last night, I stayed up and watched this game, and

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Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Seattle got beat by what

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Speaker 1: thirteen points or something? Forty one? What is the thirteen?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forty nine?

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Speaker 1: Right, it was closer than that. And the last couple

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Speaker 1: of times these teams had, last handful of times these

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Speaker 1: two teams have played, it's been like that seventy one

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Speaker 1: points in the game, and they were going up and

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Speaker 1: down the field, big plays, chunk plays, trick plays. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff here, we're watching him, a touchdown, catches, a

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass. Just a lot going on in this game.

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Speaker 1: Plus special teams were there's a huge bunch of well, no,

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Speaker 1: this was what was that?

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Speaker 4: That was that?

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Speaker 1: No, that was a Tennessee game. But even in this game,

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Speaker 1: in the in the Detroit game. It all got on it.

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Speaker 1: It was all kinds of stuff going on. Great game

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Speaker 1: to watch, and just when you think, okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have it settle down, the Detroit snaps off this huge.

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Speaker 2: Place Jamison william seventy year old touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Just when Seattle got back into it, Detroit throws a

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Speaker 1: seventy yard or you know. It was a great game,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. And uh, defensively, if

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Speaker 1: you're a defensive you know fan, you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a game for you. It was like you said, it

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Speaker 1: was wow. You couldn't even go. You couldn't even go,

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Speaker 1: you know, get a drink and come back to your

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Speaker 1: seat without having a touchdown scored. I missed touch I

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Speaker 1: missed a touchdown in the game, and literally I was

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Speaker 1: I went out to get a glass of water or

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Speaker 1: something and came back like a rookie moved. I'm watching

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Speaker 1: the replay, the guy's going in the ends, and I go,

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Speaker 1: what happened? Sure? Like one play? Drive is crazy. Great

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Speaker 1: game though, fun.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today on the show as

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Speaker 2: we take your calls at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 2: How would you fix the bills right now? Based on

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Speaker 2: how things shook out last Sunday night? What are some

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Speaker 2: of your fixes for the bills as they work on

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Speaker 2: a bounce back week? Headed down to Houston to face

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Speaker 2: the Texans. Eight oh three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Those are

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Speaker 2: the numbers to join us here on one bills Live.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have a chance to give us a call,

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Speaker 2: you can also hit us up on the tweetsheet at

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Speaker 2: one bills Live. How would you fix the bills? Right back?

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Speaker 1: In the day and age in which we live, you

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Speaker 1: can imagine how much we have to filter these responses.

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Speaker 2: Right There is some snarkiness out there. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to deny it, and.

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Speaker 1: I and I too, Yeah, there's not and most lucid

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Speaker 1: people will say, you know, it's not much wrong with them,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you always we're giving it. We're giving

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Speaker 1: the snarkies a chance to vent here as well as

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Speaker 1: given some right we are and we're given also given

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Speaker 1: the pole. We're not gonna probably mention the snarky ones.

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Speaker 1: But there's also the people out there to listen, Hey,

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Speaker 1: whoa give me a chance, and now that they've taken

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Speaker 1: a deep breath after yesterday, most people are like, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's not too much wrong with them. Let's just keep

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Speaker 1: moving on, keep moving, get healthy, and let's go. Which

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Speaker 1: is you know, the logical answer to a question like this,

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Speaker 1: But it is kind of fun after a game like

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Speaker 1: for us US because you can imagine the consternation coming

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Speaker 1: in on a Monday after that game and us going

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Speaker 1: putting open in the phone lines. I gotta tip your hat.

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Speaker 2: Thought wasn't as bad as we thought it was gonna

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Speaker 2: be yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So it was not as bad because the three and

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Speaker 1: oh starts still number two in the league in scoring. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, most people are like, all right, right, let's

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Speaker 1: just get to the next game, which I appreciate greatly.

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Speaker 2: So how would you fix the bills right now? Eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty. I mean, maybe you just think

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Speaker 2: it's a minor tweak. Let us know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you have a different opinion. Can let us know

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Speaker 2: what that is? Eight oh three oh five fifty one

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. This week's

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Speaker 2: game at the Texans is presented incidentally by Ticketmaster, the

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Speaker 2: but your phone calls are coming up. Next Here on

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Speaker 2: one Bills Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's at the twenty, the ten, the five touchdowns, snap

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Speaker 2: Got to get to the phone lines at eight O

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Speaker 2: three to zero five fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty those are the numbers to jump

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Speaker 2: on board. Got a couple open lines for you there

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Speaker 2: as we are asking you, how do you fix the bills?

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Speaker 2: Right now? And we lead off today with Ryan in Toronto?

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Speaker 2: What do you have for us? Ryan?

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Speaker 5: First, Steve, it's a simple sticks guys. Brady's got to

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Speaker 5: stop during this silly trick place. He did it twice

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Speaker 5: so far again, once against Katy last year is the

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Speaker 5: playoffs and last Sunday night. It looks silly. The Kief

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Speaker 5: can execute it. And honestly, the way these guys line

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Speaker 5: up defense nose already. Secondly, you need to trust your

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Speaker 5: defense to make a stop and put faith on your

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Speaker 5: offense to finish a drive. If they didn't do that,

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Speaker 5: you were you would have to pull these trick plays.

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Speaker 5: And last night I saw two trick plays on the

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Speaker 5: Money and Football on the Fiel game were executed. Those

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Speaker 5: are my comments, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? Right, if you're technically Brady did not

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Speaker 2: call the trick play in the Kansas City playoff game

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Speaker 2: because that was on special teams, that was a fake punt.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, And let's face it, they only work

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Speaker 1: when you execute.

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Speaker 3: Him, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're talking about one play out of one thousand,

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Speaker 2: eleven hundred. Yeah, I mean there haven't been many.

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Speaker 1: And he's also the guy. Did he might he might

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Speaker 1: have called. Did he called the Uh No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. We have an offensive lineman catch a touchdown

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Speaker 1: last year under Brady, I don't believe so. Now I

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Speaker 1: don't believe think that was before him. So that yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. A good football team shouldn't have to do

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Speaker 1: that stuff unless the other team is ripe for it.

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Speaker 1: That's usually when you call it. I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time seeing the Ravens being in that spot. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you're right. Everybody McDermot said was a bad call, Brady said,

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Speaker 1: is a bad call. Let's hope that the It's a

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Speaker 1: long time before we see another one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move along to Joe in Rochester. What's up, Joe?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how's it going today?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 6: I think the Bills could make their team better.

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Speaker 5: Seems like Devonte Adams is available to.

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Speaker 6: Be plucked off of the Raiders at this point. You know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know how that would work with a cap

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Speaker 6: at all, but you know, if he's already been paid

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Speaker 6: the signing bonus for the year, we could get him

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Speaker 6: for a fairly cheap price.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll probably be on the hook for Joe will

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Speaker 1: be on the hook for like eight million this year,

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Speaker 1: twenty five next year, and twenty five the year after.

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Speaker 1: Twenty secs.

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Speaker 2: If you do it at the deadline, if you did

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Speaker 2: it now, it's thirteen point six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's thirteen point six now. And the Bills don't

657
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Speaker 1: have the room, they don't have that, and he's and

658
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: by the way, he's thirty two years old. Yeah, Buffalo

659
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Speaker 1: has three point eight million in cap space.

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Speaker 2: It's not happening. Yeah, not here anyway. Uh to Joe

661
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Speaker 2: in cheek Towaga, what do you got for us? Joe? Joe,

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Speaker 2: are you there? I'm gonna put Joe on hold and

663
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Speaker 2: maybe he's away from his phone. Here we go to

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Speaker 2: Mark in West Seneca. How you doing, Mark, big guys,

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Speaker 2: how are you good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I have to admit after a game like Sunday night,

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Speaker 7: I unplugged yesterday, didn't want to hear what everybody had

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Speaker 7: to say. So if I repeat anything that's been brought up,

671
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Speaker 7: I apologize. But as far as getting the team better

672
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 7: this year, I mean, all the horses are out of

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Speaker 7: the corral. I mean, we're not going to do anything

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Speaker 7: that's going to be a significant game changer now at

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Speaker 7: this point in time. But it seems to me when

676
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Speaker 7: we we have those kind of clunker games, especially defensively,

677
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Speaker 7: it's trashed back to the same thing. We're not stout

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Speaker 7: enough in the middle of our defense and we constantly

679
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Speaker 7: run into this point. I mean it's not very often,

680
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Speaker 7: I granted at that, but if it was me, there's

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Speaker 7: two things I'd be looking for next year to make

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Speaker 7: the team significantly better. And you have to bay, who's

683
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Speaker 7: the best player at the time in the draft. Obviously

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Speaker 7: another talented receiver. I hope the lack of talent at

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Speaker 7: the wide receiver position isn't rearing its head right now

686
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Speaker 7: and that we still are talented enough, and I believe

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Speaker 7: we are. But defensive tackle has got to be something

688
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Speaker 7: that needs to be looked at. I love that Oliver

689
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Speaker 7: what he's become, but we need a couple of guys

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Speaker 7: in the middle of that defense that are going to

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Speaker 7: stop the runout first and second down first and foremost.

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Speaker 7: I know we've tried to put a penetrating defense together,

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Speaker 7: and I love Torel Bernard, but if you're going to

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Speaker 7: go with an undersized middle linebacker when and I know

695
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 7: he didn't play, but when he comes back and he's

696
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Speaker 7: playing regularly and we're still a little undersized in the

697
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Speaker 7: middle of that defense, we're always going to be vulnerable.

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Speaker 7: So I think we need to I don't know, maybe

699
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Speaker 7: do we need to look at our strategy as to

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Speaker 7: what kind of team we're putting on the field and

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Speaker 7: maybe change gears a little bit. But I think it's

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Speaker 7: something that really needs to be looked at because guess what,

703
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Speaker 7: guys Baltimore is there every year and they're not going away,

704
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Speaker 7: and this is their game and eventually we're gonna if

705
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Speaker 7: we get over to Kansas City, hump. That's the next

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Speaker 7: still we got to climb is that Baltimore team, and

707
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Speaker 7: they're big, they're strong, and most of all, they're nasty.

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Speaker 7: So somehow we have to figure out a way to

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Speaker 7: match that. So that's my opinion, guys, I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: It, Thank you, thanks right. And you know, according to

711
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Speaker 2: the reports, the Bills might be doing something to address that, because,

712
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Speaker 2: as we told you at the top of the show, works,

713
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Speaker 2: Tom Pelasio is reporting that the Bills are signing defensive

714
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: tackles Ion log off of Atlanta's practice squad. To do that,

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Speaker 2: you have to put him on your active roster, and

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Speaker 2: he goes six six, three fifteen, So we'll have to see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's interesting. You know, veteran Austin

718
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: Johnson is the backup to day Kwon Jones. You know,

719
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Speaker 2: he's a big guy himself. He only plays nine snaps

720
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Speaker 2: last week. I don't know what that is but or

721
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Speaker 2: if it even means anything. But the player rotation was

722
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Speaker 2: interesting because it wasn't They weren't as heavily rotated as

723
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Speaker 2: we're used to seeing. And obviously, after the first possession,

724
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Speaker 2: which lasts one play, you're probably not gonna see that

725
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Speaker 2: rotation on the second series unless it goes over six

726
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: seven plays, right, but you know, end of the game,

727
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Speaker 2: you know, nine snaps. It was just it was interesting

728
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Speaker 2: to see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm it is interesting. And certainly the Bills will

730
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Speaker 1: be doing some self analysis as to what their plan was,

731
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Speaker 1: how it worked, and why it didn't work, and when

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Speaker 1: they come down to that, it'll, you know, they'll have

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Speaker 1: their own ideas about how to fix it and how

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Speaker 1: best way to fix it. And you're right, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's hard this team. For three years, I mean, nobody

736
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Speaker 1: was running off and leaving this team. This is the

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Speaker 1: first time they lost by more than six points in

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Speaker 1: forty three games. They set an NFL all time NFL record,

739
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Speaker 1: So there was nothing really there. And there's still, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean this question we asked today about how to

741
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Speaker 1: fix them, there's still when they're taking advantage of you

742
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: can always point to the offense or offensive or defensive line.

743
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Speaker 1: It's where it always starts. That's why the Bills spends

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Speaker 1: so many assets and bringing so many big offensive lineman

745
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Speaker 1: athletic offensive linemen. Same thing. On the defensive line, they

746
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Speaker 1: like big dudes in there. It's where it all starts.

747
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Speaker 1: But on defense, I think their philosophy is a little different.

748
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Speaker 1: They like guys who play on the other side of

749
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, not like the old guy like

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Speaker 1: Ted Washington was a bill here where he kind of

751
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: just holds the line of crimage. You can't gain any

752
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: ground and either got to use two offensive linemen trying

753
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: to move him, and they can't, and it freeze everybody

754
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Speaker 1: else up to go across the line of crimins. Theyn't

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00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: that's not there what they do because those guys are

756
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Speaker 1: incredibly rare. So you know, that's you kind of have

757
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: to go with what you got.

758
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: There's not enough big dominant defensive tackles in the on

760
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Speaker 1: the planet, in the pool you choose from for you

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Speaker 1: to get enough of them to make that your whole

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Speaker 1: deal you go. I mean, Baltimore's got a couple of them,

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Speaker 1: and plus they run up you know, they run that

764
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Speaker 1: defense where you get a couple of huge dudes in there,

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Speaker 1: and that's how they run their defense. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: find those guys if you can't find them, or if

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00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: they're not, if we do get a big dude and

768
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Speaker 1: he can't play, now you're stuck twice.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, the Bill's philosophy has worked for them

771
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: really well. And let's face it, we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is a different animal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're out there and.

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Speaker 1: You talk about, Hey, you're gonna have to get past Baltimore.

775
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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Think about it. Baltimore has this philosophy.

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Speaker 1: They they they are awesome. They got a two time MVP.

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Speaker 1: Let me just remind everybody the MVP is a regular

778
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: season accolade because Baltimore's quarterback wouldn't get near it in

779
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Josh is better in the playoffs, way better.

780
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Speaker 1: And everybody says, what Josh, look at Josh Allen's playoff numbers,

781
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: look at his clutch numbers, look at all that he's better.

782
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: He's better than all of them. So and that include that,

783
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: and he's right there, and I know it's sacrilege to

784
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: say it, but Josh numbers are better than Pat Mahomes

785
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He doesn't. The team hasn't won, they

786
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: haven't gotten past Kansas City. But Josh's numbers, he's more clutch.

787
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: It's everything else. It's that you know, Josh wasn't on

788
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: the field in thirteen seconds. Josh, you know. I mean, dude,

789
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: you got the guy. But when a push comes to shove.

790
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: The Bills have the blueprint that works and has worked

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00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: for teams like Kansas City. It's worked for teams like

792
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: like you name it, New England when they did it's

793
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: exactly it's the same formula like when La won it.

794
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: It's the same formula when anybody else you can name

795
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: want it. That's how that they're doing it the way

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00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: the champions have done it. Baltimore's doing it a different way.

797
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: So I get it, but we said it. Baltimore is

798
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: an outlier and the way they build their team because

799
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Speaker 1: they have an outlier athlete at quarterback. That's the way

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00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: it works. You build it around the guys you got

801
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: with the guys you got, and you got to build

802
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: it good all the way, and you gotta play good.

803
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a bad game now again. And that's

804
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: what happened I think on Sunday for the Bills. That

805
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: doesn't mean their plan is wrong or even their execution

806
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: is wrong. Means they got beat by a really good

807
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: team playing at home at night, and you didn't play

808
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: as good as you can play, or as good as

809
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: you have been playing, and that's what happens to you

810
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: lose by twenty five points. It's a tough league to win.

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Speaker 2: In break time for us here when we come back,

812
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. How would you fix the

813
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: bills if you think they need a little fixing, give

814
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: us your suggestions. Next here on one Bill's Live Stay

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Speaker 2: with us got to pass along this week's Coach of

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Speaker 2: the Week, presented by Legends for week four. In section six,

817
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Speaker 2: it's Chautauqua Lake Central's Ryan Gibbs taking home the honor

818
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Speaker 2: his Eagles defeated previously unbeaten falcon Or forty four to

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Speaker 2: seven this past weekend. And over in section five it's

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Speaker 2: East Rochester Gnandaz tim Rose after he led the Bombers

821
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Speaker 2: to a thirty six to six win over Lavonia to

822
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Speaker 2: improve to three and one on the season. Each coach

823
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Speaker 2: will receive one thousand dollars for their program congratulations. Back

824
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Speaker 2: to the topic at hand, how would you fix the bills?

825
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: If you think there's some fixing that's needed, Maybe it's

826
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: a little tweak here or there. You give us your

827
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Speaker 2: ideas here on one bills Live at eight h three

828
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Speaker 2: oh five fifty Back to the phones and to mow

829
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Speaker 2: in New Jersey. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 8: MO?

831
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Speaker 9: And how do you guys doing today? Okayod I understand

832
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 9: that they having problems with the injuries, but what about

833
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 9: trying to single high safety and bringing another guy down

834
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 9: in the box. Because I think it took them way

835
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 9: too long to bring a guy down the box against

836
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 9: Derek Henry, Like, why would you not do that? In

837
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Speaker 9: assumli They waited till halftime to do it. And what

838
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Speaker 9: about playing a little more man than man because as

839
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 9: light as they are, they have to be moving an

840
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 9: attack defense than react because teams are just gonna start

841
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 9: running at them. I think we have to play Nixon

842
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 9: next week and then Adams the week after that. I

843
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 9: think all the teams are going to start following, you know,

844
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 9: the blueprint as far as what Baltimore did. And one

845
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 9: more thing, they need to use Davis more. I think

846
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Speaker 9: I love Cook, but I think Davis should get some

847
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 9: more carriages because he's a stronger tackler and Cook's gonna

848
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 9: wear down by the end of the year if they

849
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 9: just keep giving it to him like that.

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Speaker 2: Right, A lot to unpack there, mo first and foremost,

851
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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think that future opponents are going to

852
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: adopt wholeheartedly what the Ravens do, because, as Steve has said,

853
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: they're a unique offense with a unique They have a

854
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: three hundred pound full back. You know, there are not

855
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: a lot of teams that have that. Now, the Jets

856
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: may want to run similar to the way Baltimore did

857
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: because they have two giant backs, Braylan Allen and Breese Hall,

858
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: who both go over two hundred and thirty pounds. So

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Speaker 2: if you want to talk about next week's game, I'll

860
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: leave into that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen because with c J. Stroud

862
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers aren't Lamar, right, So it's a different

863
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: animal right there. If if Rogers wants to run an RPO,

864
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Speaker 1: I mean, they's not gonna do it. Yeah, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying they might run as frequently.

867
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Speaker 1: Having a big running back is different than having Derrick

868
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: Henry and Lamar Jackson so and Patrick Ricard. So there

869
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: you have it. I get it, though, you think maybe

870
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: other teams can do it. But here's the thing, if

871
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: they would have done it already, right, they're they're not

872
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: gonna be able to threaten and Buffalo the way Baltimore

873
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: can threaten Buffalo in the run game and everybody else.

874
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Baltimore is just a singular, singularly different roster

875
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: and team to face defensively because.

876
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: Of and Houston at its core is a passing team

877
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: because of the quarterback they have and the receiver talent

878
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: they have, so they're gonna have to stop the pass.

879
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: You want to talk about single safety high, I mean, yes,

880
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: you can mix in man calls. I think this is

881
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: just my opinion. I don't know that you have a

882
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: free safety right now capable of being a half field safety.

883
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: If Damar is your free safety, I don't know that

884
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: he has the foot speed or instincts to play that

885
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: kind of a defensive play call. If you want to

886
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: put Bishop back there, maybe you can change that. It's

887
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: not knowing that the status of Taylor Rapp this week

888
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: being in concussion protocol or Mike Edwards, that could change

889
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: things also, because I think Edwards and Bishop probably have

890
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more foot speed.

891
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: It's a little more difficult to see than when you're

892
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: watching quarterbacks and wide receivers and stuff and run the

893
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: deep routes, short routes, flat routes, quick routes. It's harder

894
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: to see defensively, But they build a defense and they

895
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: bring players in who are built to play the defense,

896
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: and they fashion the defensive calls around the skills of

897
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Speaker 1: their players, and they gravitate towards man or zone depending

898
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: on who's on the field defensively, just like offenses build

899
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: it around the skill sets of their key players. That's

900
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Speaker 1: what defense coordinators do as well. So it's harder to

901
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: get an idea of what they think is possible in

902
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: any given moment on the field based on the calls

903
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: and where you watch these guys play. So it may

904
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Speaker 1: be that they don't feel it's better to do some

905
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: of the stuff we're suggesting because they just don't have

906
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: guys that can do it or aren't as good as

907
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: doing it. So it's they do the same thing defensively

908
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: they do offensively, but most people can't. You can't watch

909
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: it and discern why they're doing what they're doing because

910
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: of the skill sets of the players involved. It's not

911
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: as easy to see as it is.

912
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: Offensively, Let's go to Rick in California. Let me pull

913
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: them up here. What do you got first, Rick, You're

914
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live.

915
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 10: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. How you guys doing doing all right?

916
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 9: Good? Good?

917
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 10: So I got a question for you and then a statement.

918
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 10: But my question is on a game like last the

919
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 10: last one here, when a team like Buffalo is getting

920
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 10: so manhandled at the line of scrimmage, how do you

921
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 10: create adjustments to overcome a team like Baltimore or as

922
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 10: planned for you guys like this, and then on the

923
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 10: day of the game, like literally it looked like Buffalo

924
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 10: was a JV team and Baltimore was a varsity team,

925
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Speaker 10: you know, and the inn inter game adjustments, how does

926
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Speaker 10: it work to overcome that, you know, for say the

927
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Speaker 10: offensive line. Because if we're going forward like this, a

928
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 10: wise man once said that you know what kind of

929
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 10: a team you really are or man you are when

930
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 10: you get punched in the mouth. Right, And now that

931
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 10: we got punched in the mouth like we did against Baltimore,

932
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 10: we're gonna find out exactly what this team is really

933
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 10: about this week against Houston. You know, either we get

934
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 10: the heck in or we get the heck out. You know,

935
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 10: as far as the menures is and the mentality and

936
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Speaker 10: the way we have to approach the line of scrimmage

937
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 10: is my biggest concern because if we're getting pushed around

938
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Speaker 10: like that with Baltimore, all the other teams are gonna

939
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 10: know where our weak spots are, and our week spot

940
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 10: is the line of scrimmage. So I just want to

941
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 10: know exactly what you guys think about inter game adjustments

942
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 10: when it comes to the line of scrimmage. How do

943
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 10: you adjust inter game situations like that.

944
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Speaker 1: Well, here's all I can tell you. I would agree

945
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: with most of what you said. I would say offensively,

946
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage was lost not because of getting manhandled,

947
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: but because they were miscommunicating. They struggled in straightening out

948
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: they they got caught, particularly when Connor mcgovernal left the

949
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: game and you know they had the backup Alcanderson alec

950
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: Anderson was in at center. That probably skewed the communication,

951
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: made it worse, not better.

952
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even Connor and Josh said after the game

953
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: they weren't on the same page all night either, So

954
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: that was.

955
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: More about it. I think that was the adjustment that

956
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: has to be made than if they play again and quickly.

957
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: It was the same thing on defense. Baiale, inspector said

958
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: he did not get the calls all out in a

959
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: timely enough fashion. Sometimes too, because the Ravens were making

960
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: a late check, they didn't get to adjust in time,

961
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: and so that was so. Yes, communication was an issue

962
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: on both sides football.

963
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: Other than that, Brown and I talked about it yesterday.

964
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Speaker 1: I am I am a big fan of exaggerated adjustments.

965
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Speaker 1: If they're pushing you around running it, particularly a team

966
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Speaker 1: like Baltimore. I mean, I'll just prolific showing it. I

967
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: will use hyperbole to make my point. Just go goal

968
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: line defense. Put five defensive linemen out there, three defensive tackles,

969
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: two defensive ends, and put your linebackers out there and

970
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: go three dbs. Just dare them to throw the football.

971
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: But you know they're not going to run it. I mean,

972
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Speaker 1: just go at them and force them into force them

973
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: into making an adjustment and go from and then work

974
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Speaker 1: from there.

975
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Speaker 2: And not for nothing. The adjustments in the early part

976
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: of the second half did work. I mean, the defense

977
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: comes out, sends Baltimore three and out. They punked two series,

978
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: offense makes an adjustment, they go down the field score

979
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Speaker 2: and then the offense for the Ravens comes out and

980
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: goes three and out again. So the second half adjustments,

981
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: I mean, let's give some credit to the coaching staff here.

982
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: They made some good adjustments in the second half. It worked,

983
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: they seized momentum in the game. Unfortunately, the trick play

984
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: that was called kind of sapped it all away from

985
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: them again and it went downhill from there. But the

986
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: initial adjustments in the second half were good ones.

987
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: And you would like to see him make him quicker.

988
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: But like I said, they might have been trying to

989
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get the calls out in time, you know,

990
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: by the agistic.

991
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: By the frustrations exhibited by coach McDermott on the sidelines

992
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: a couple of times at the end of the first half,

993
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: I would tend to agree with that because he was

994
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: annoyed because I think they had made some adjustments on

995
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 2: the sideline in the first half and they weren't getting

996
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: properly executed by the players or some of his assistants.

997
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: So that's another conversation for another day. Got to take

998
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: a break here, because when we come back We're going

999
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 2: to have our weekly visit from ESPN NFL analyst Dan

1000
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: Orlovsky will chop up some of the x's and o's

1001
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: from that Ravens game and turn the page towards the

1002
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: Texans and what to expect from them. Danie Rolofsky coming

1003
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: your way next here on One Bill's Live. Stay with us.

1004
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1005
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Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a Tuesday.

1006
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and this time of

1007
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1008
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,120
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1009
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,280
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1010
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,759
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1011
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: I have been knocking this around for probably the last

1012
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: day or so in the wake of the humbling defeat

1013
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: at the hands of the Baltimore Ravens. We've described their

1014
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: offense in this league as somewhat of an outlier, and

1015
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: knowing that we're wondering, if you know, down the line playoffs,

1016
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: perhaps if the Bills see this team again, are they

1017
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: going to have to think outside the box in terms

1018
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: of a defensive approach, whether it's fifty front, sixty front,

1019
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: something out of the ordinary, you know, a Bill Belichick

1020
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: schemed plan for a given opponent in a given week

1021
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: to make hay against that group.

1022
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there's there's definitely probably situations where that

1023
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 8: becomes a little bit more into play. You know, I

1024
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 8: think that you have to give credit in this situation

1025
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 8: to Baltimore in the way that they went about their plan.

1026
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 11: There is the reality and.

1027
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 8: We've kind of talked about this as you know, those

1028
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 8: some of those starting defensive players, you know, I think

1029
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 8: you know, we've mentions how some of those guys have

1030
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 8: just stepped in and seamlessly played high level football and

1031
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 8: winning football. You know, I think that showed up a

1032
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 8: little bit, you know, a tarn not being there, a

1033
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 8: Bernard not being there, certainly Milano, you know that that

1034
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 8: was a part of that. I think the other part

1035
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 8: is maybe you know, this is a defense that is

1036
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 8: so one eyes based because it's his own defense, and

1037
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 8: then two aggressive because you know they're going on their

1038
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 8: first reaction to things. And I think Baltimore took advantage

1039
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 8: of that. And so I'm sure that if it came

1040
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 8: down the road that they would have to see Baltimore again.

1041
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 8: There would be some maybe like structural changes, but a

1042
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 8: little bit more.

1043
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 11: You know, I liken it too.

1044
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 8: You know, when teams play Miami, and when you guys

1045
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 8: play in Miami or a San Francisco, defenses try to

1046
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 8: sit at a certain location and don't move till the

1047
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 8: ball actually kind of gets committed via run or pass.

1048
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 8: Buffalo kind of sat to start at their normal landmarks

1049
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 8: and reacted to things and then had to kind of

1050
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 8: secondary adjust back to the ball, and that's why there

1051
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 8: was so many big plays.

1052
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Early on in the game. Do you think the Ravens.

1053
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I was making this point yesterday. In the

1054
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City game early in the season, they threw the

1055
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: ball thirty or forty one times. In the next game

1056
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: against the Raiders, they threw it thirty four times, and

1057
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: then the last two games fifteen times at Dallas and

1058
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 1: nineteen times against the Bills. I mean, if it almost

1059
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: seems counterintuitive that you're defensive in a league that's a

1060
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: throwing league, that's exactly what you want to force the

1061
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens to do is throw it.

1062
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, the fear is lamar is obviously such a

1063
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 8: good thrower, and then he's so dynamic if things break down,

1064
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 8: So you know, there's a reality that maybe the pass

1065
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 8: catching weapons that he has aren't elite, so there's will

1066
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 8: throw it. I think, you know, the fifteen and nineteen

1067
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 8: probably have a little bit to do with them being

1068
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 8: up at half by so much in both of those

1069
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 8: last two wins that they've gotten. So this is a

1070
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Speaker 8: good offense. You know, their offensive line I don't think

1071
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 8: is what it has been in the past. Certainly I've

1072
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 8: played better in the past two weeks, but I don't

1073
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 8: think it's what they've been in the past. Their past

1074
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 8: catching threat really is Zay Bateman's good, but not really

1075
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 8: someone that you're gonna sit there and game plan around.

1076
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 8: And they haven't gotten either of those tight ends really

1077
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 8: going in the past game Justice Hill is probably the biggest,

1078
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 8: you know, with the some of the matchups that he

1079
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 8: presents out in space, the biggest threat.

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00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 11: So it's a good offense. No one's surprised by that.

1081
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 8: You're gonna have to at some point make in one

1082
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 8: way them one dimensional. I think who you are defensively

1083
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 8: is probably the better answer of which one dimension that is?

1084
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: All right? Flipping it forward to the Texans their offense,

1085
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people was going to be

1086
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: high flying points all over the place, and here we

1087
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: are in Week five and the Texans aren't even averaging

1088
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: twenty points a game. How much do you attribute that

1089
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: to the fact that their top two running backs have

1090
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: been injured and they haven't been able to strike a

1091
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: balance perhaps with their offensive approach every week, and how

1092
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: much do you see other factors at work there?

1093
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 11: Now?

1094
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 8: They can't pass protect. Their drop back pass protection is poor,

1095
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 8: it has been all year. Their record is really about CJ.

1096
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 8: CJ's been remarkable and making plays with his feet and

1097
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 8: really on third down, which was the case last year.

1098
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 8: But now they ran the ball really well in Week

1099
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 8: one and haven't since then. I think that has a

1100
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 8: little bit to do with mix and not being there.

1101
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 8: But their play action pass game protection is still fine.

1102
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 8: But when they got to drop back and just in

1103
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 8: obvious past situations, you can get after this offensive line,

1104
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 8: and if Buffalo is going to play well enough and win,

1105
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 8: and it'll be because that they get them into obvious

1106
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 8: passing situations that you know they're not able to use

1107
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 8: the play action and then that pass rush gets going.

1108
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 8: So the big challenge I guess that is a maybe

1109
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 8: a different challenge than it was last year is cig

1110
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 8: is making a lot of plays with his legs, either

1111
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 8: extending plays or getting out of bad and becoming a runner.

1112
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 8: More often it's it's extending plays and creating big throws.

1113
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 8: So that's going to be the challenge is if they

1114
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 8: can start to win in some of those pass rushes

1115
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 8: being really disciplined, because that's a different part of his

1116
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 8: game this year than it was last.

1117
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: They played the Indianapolis Colts, the Chicago Bears, Jacksonville, they

1118
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: did and they lost to Minnesota. It and it's early,

1119
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: I know, And is this a team good enough for

1120
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: a first play schedule like they're trying to play this year?

1121
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: Last year they were the fourth place schedule. Has has

1122
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: their strength of their schedule going to catch up with him?

1123
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: Because the Colts, the Bears, the Jaguars are winless. Not

1124
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: much was expected of those teams. How much has has

1125
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Speaker 1: Houston been tested?

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 11: Not much? I mean the Minnesota game and they got

1127
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 11: boat raced in the Minnesota game. You know, I think that.

1128
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 8: You know, the defense is a good unit, it really is.

1129
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 8: I think they got a really good secondary. They fly

1130
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 8: to the football. Now, if you can get into some

1131
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 8: formations that they get predictable, because it's not an overly

1132
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 8: creative defense under Demico, you can get them into some

1133
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 8: predictable alignments, you can take advantage of it. That's what

1134
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 8: Kevin O'Connell did when Minnesota had such success against them.

1135
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 8: And then if this is a football team, so two

1136
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 8: years in a row now, offensively they have struggled to

1137
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 8: have any type of positive run on early downs, but

1138
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 8: they still to their identity Bobby Slowik their play caller.

1139
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 8: They want to call them. You win that down, you

1140
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 8: got a really good chance to slow them down. They

1141
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 8: now Nico Collins, there's no question become one of the

1142
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 8: elite receivers in the NFL.

1143
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 11: So the big thing is, you know, this is a

1144
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 11: really good football team. It's really talented.

1145
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 8: They got a quarterback that you can put in the

1146
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 8: conversation with some of the best in the NFL. There's

1147
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 8: absolutely no question about that. But if you can win

1148
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 8: early downs against them, you start to play to a

1149
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 8: strength defensively.

1150
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: And then as far as their backhand on defense, I

1151
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: know they have a lot of talented high draft choices,

1152
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: but still Young. I mean, you know, Lassiter rookie, Bullock,

1153
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: rookie at free safety, you know, and I know those

1154
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: guys are playmakers and have made plays already, but I'm

1155
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: just wondering about them in coverage against a guy with

1156
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: an armlike Allen. You know, you take chances you could

1157
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: get burned.

1158
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, they got really good ball skills.

1159
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 8: Both of those guys, Lassiter ants Day got really good

1160
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 8: ball skills.

1161
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 2: So, like, this is a game.

1162
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 8: You know, if you're Buffalo offensively live throwing the ball

1163
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 8: to the perimeter that much. I think you live throwing

1164
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 8: the ball. If you're gonna, you know, push.

1165
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 11: The ball downfield.

1166
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 8: I think you're taking shots kind of at the hashes,

1167
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 8: you know with some big crossers. I don't think you're

1168
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 8: trying to test these corners in their ball skills that much.

1169
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 8: When you don't have someone on the outside that as

1170
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 8: elite ball skills. You know, this is a this is

1171
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 8: a football team that what you have to do against

1172
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 8: Houston is you they are an ultra aggressive linebacker unit.

1173
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 11: I mean they are downhill. You have to use that

1174
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 11: against them.

1175
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,959
Speaker 8: So, you know, some of the play actions that maybe

1176
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 8: aren't really long and developing play actions, but ones that

1177
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 8: are quicker hitting. That's one thing you gotta do. You

1178
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 8: gotta move the pocket on them because because ultra it's

1179
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 8: almost like buffalo like ultra aggressive. You got to get

1180
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 8: them flowing one way and get back across the other way.

1181
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 8: I don't see a ton of opportunities that is straight dropback,

1182
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 8: pushing the ball to the perimeter. Now double moves for sure,

1183
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 8: but you got to call him and hit him at

1184
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 8: the right moments obviously.

1185
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 11: But this is this is really good.

1186
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 8: This defense doesn't have a flaw on their pass rush. Man,

1187
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 8: if they get their passwords going with Danil Hunter. Yeah,

1188
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 8: and it is a big time problem.

1189
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: Give us a little insight is how the bill I mean,

1190
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: we talk to you every week. You've watched the Bills

1191
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: go three and ohero and then they had this this

1192
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: you know game last night or two nights ago in

1193
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Give us some mind an insight as to

1194
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: what you think their mindset should be going into a

1195
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: game like Houston after what happened to him on Sunday night.

1196
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: How joh And it's amazing too, Josh hasn't thrown an

1197
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: interception this year. They got two forced fumbles and lost

1198
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: fumbles turned over only twice offensively through four games, which

1199
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: you know in years past would never have happened. Uh,

1200
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: three and one, Josh playing the way he's playing. What's

1201
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: your advice to a Bills team headed into Houston.

1202
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 8: I think the you're coming off of a loss where

1203
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 8: you didn't play well, you didn't do anything to stay

1204
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 8: on the field offensively, and I think you know, if

1205
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 8: you're Josh and the offense, what you take away is

1206
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 8: you know you got caught trying to maybe get too

1207
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 8: cute and do too much, and you assume some things

1208
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 8: that you thought the defense would do, and so you

1209
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 8: kind of reset in regards to that play call wise

1210
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 8: and operation wise. But you're still three in one and

1211
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 8: you've been the hottest offense in the NFL for the

1212
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 8: most part. Then defensively, you don't have to try to

1213
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 8: pretend what happened on Sunday night didn't. I mean, I

1214
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 8: would imagine that Houston tries to put some of their

1215
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 8: bigger tight ends on the field. They have a young

1216
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 8: man out of a house state cade stover and try

1217
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 8: to run the football at you a little bit and

1218
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 8: see if you can handle that and really work the

1219
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 8: play action game because that's their beauty, and so I

1220
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 8: think learning from some of the things that exposed or

1221
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 8: were exposed on Sunday night.

1222
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 11: But you're a three and one football team, and you

1223
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 11: know you're in October.

1224
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 8: Every month, this organization, this football team knows every month

1225
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 8: that you get into the season, the game becomes a

1226
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 8: little bit more meaningful. Is both these teams have visions

1227
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 8: of being the one seed in the AFC playoffs. This

1228
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 8: game is obviously going to matter towards that. So you know,

1229
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 8: making sure I think you got to get back to

1230
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 8: getting rhythm and sustained drives on offense is a big

1231
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 8: part of that.

1232
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: And then just up front, you know, the pass rush

1233
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: was non existent for the Bills last week, primarily because

1234
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: there weren't a lot of down and distance opportunities that

1235
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: lent themselves to a pass rush. But how do you

1236
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: look at their front seven play coming out of last week.

1237
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Baile inspector after the game, pretty much said

1238
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: there were times where I didn't get check pre snap

1239
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: communication to everybody that I needed to, and that kind

1240
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: of showed up at times. But that was really the

1241
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: first time the line of scrimmage battle was lost by

1242
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: the Bills this, you know, in this last game on

1243
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, how do you kind of

1244
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: recapture your strength in that area to kind of control

1245
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: how things go down in distance wise?

1246
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you know, the emphasis of examples when

1247
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 8: you've done it right, and the emphasis of examples when

1248
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 8: you've done it poorly. And why you know, if it

1249
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 8: was a communication, if it was you know, a misalignment

1250
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 8: handling some pre snap looks, And that's the biggest thing

1251
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 8: is figuring out why, and then you know, kind of

1252
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 8: like I mentioned this, if you go back and watch

1253
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 8: that Baltimore game, Baltimore, all they did was try to

1254
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 8: create space and get you to go to it and

1255
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 8: then take advantage of it, you know, and that's why

1256
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 8: you saw like Lamar pump the draw. If you watch

1257
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 8: that Lamar pumps the draw, the three second level defenders

1258
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 8: just go flying laterally and then linemen are eight yards downfield,

1259
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 8: making three of them not all three of those guys

1260
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 8: should be flying that way to the football or when

1261
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 8: you know they they motion the back into two by

1262
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 8: two to the field and Lamar gets the ball and

1263
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 8: both the middle backer in the nickel go fly into

1264
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 8: the motion and no one's you know, there was definitely

1265
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 8: moments when they're numbers. So I just think like reassessing

1266
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 8: all that stuff and how it's going to be handled

1267
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 8: because the teams are going to present them, certainly Houston

1268
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 8: with it again, and just really having clarity of the

1269
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 8: responsibilities of all that. I think a lot of it

1270
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 8: was just getting misaligned pre snap and then overly aggressive post.

1271
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Speaker 1: Give us some ideas and now that the week number

1272
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: four is in under our belts, any surprises that continue

1273
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: to be surprises. I mean we're a month into this

1274
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: and we're week I mean it's week five already. Yeah,

1275
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: and I know if it's if you're like us, I

1276
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: mean we're astonished every year how fast this season slides by.

1277
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: We're five, four and a half weeks into this. Yeah,

1278
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: of course, what's catching your eye? A lot of been

1279
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: said about the fact that nobody's thrown for very many

1280
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: yards this year. The yards are way down, touchdowns are

1281
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, throwing, touchdowns are down a little bit.

1282
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 1: Anything grab you. Yeah.

1283
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 11: The quarterback in Kansas City and the quarterback in Buffalo.

1284
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 8: The reasons why now they're two good A players, that's

1285
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 8: defenses don't want to give them a ton of chances.

1286
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 11: I think, you know, I'd say this, Steve. We're going

1287
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 11: to dive into that.

1288
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 8: It's a little bit more in an NFL Live probably

1289
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 8: in the next couple of weeks when we get a

1290
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 8: little bit more data. But I told our producer a

1291
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 8: week ago, watch the teams offensively that are the most

1292
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 8: efficient teams on first down.

1293
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 11: We're kind of back to.

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Speaker 8: An eraw where you were playing a little bit like

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01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 8: you got to be really efficient on first down right now.

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Speaker 8: The teams that are will be the teams that matter

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Speaker 8: in December and into January on first down offenses that

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01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 8: can do either and be good and efficient at them.

1299
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 8: Because here's the thing. Third down offenses right now, not

1300
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 8: all of them, but most of them stink. And in

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01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 8: my opinion, it's because the reason why the Baltimore Ravens

1302
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 8: defensive scheme is running ravage in the NFL right now

1303
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 8: is because offensive lines really struggle with hand doing pressures

1304
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 8: and quarterbacks.

1305
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 11: Really struggle with like diagnosing and communicating in it.

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 8: So I think that'll be a big thing storyline as

1307
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 8: this season gets going, is what teams offensively are really

1308
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 8: good on first downs and not putting themselves into those

1309
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 8: really bad third down situations.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, Dan, if you could just take

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 2: a brief look at the division here AFC East. Obviously,

1312
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: Miami's got a world of problems because of their quarterback position,

1313
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: and you know, Mike McDaniel's gonna have to figure out

1314
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: some kind of solutions to at least be functional and

1315
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: then competitive.

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Speaker 9: Tea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jets, Yes, they have the horses, but it seems

1318
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: like they're not all hitched up to the same wagon

1319
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: right now. How how do you view I mean, look,

1320
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: Denver's a tough defense, I'll give them that, but how

1321
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: how do you explain some of the disconnect that seems

1322
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: to still exist, particularly in their passing game.

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01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm I mean, so in their last three weeks,

1324
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 8: there's been improvement. Week one, you know, was I think

1325
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 8: just a tough draw for New York. I think, you know,

1326
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 8: last week the weather did not help that. That was

1327
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 8: a game where it was pouring rain.

1328
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 11: Both offenses struggled to throw it.

1329
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 8: They've got to figure out, you know, who they want

1330
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 8: to be when it comes to getting the ball to

1331
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 8: Garrett Wilson or not. You know, he's their primary pass catcher.

1332
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 8: Aaron definitely has a better, at least connection with Ellen Lizard.

1333
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 8: Right now, I still believe that they're gonna do everything

1334
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 8: they can to get DeVante Adams at some point over

1335
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 8: the next a month of football. I just I think

1336
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 8: that the football team needs that other perimeter player. You know,

1337
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 8: they were really aggressive to start that game. Offensively, I

1338
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 8: don't think that's who they are, you know. I think

1339
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 8: that they're an offense that really wants to give the

1340
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 8: quarterback the keys at every snap, and so I'm not

1341
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 8: overly concerned about the Jets offense, but I do think

1342
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 8: if they get Devonte, it becomes a different animal.

1343
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Speaker 1: Dan. Thanks man, it's great to see you again. Thanks

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: for joining us again this week.

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 11: Thanks guys.

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: All right, that's Dan Orlowski, ESPNNFL analyst joining us every

1347
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 2: week as he does on Tuesdays, presented by Caesar's Sportsbook.

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01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: We do want to get back to the phones at

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Speaker 2: eight h three zero five fifty one eighty eight five

1350
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty as we're asking you, how would

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: you fix the bills right now if you think there's

1352
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: some fixing needed, And we go to Jake in West

1353
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: senecon X. What's up, Jake?

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 12: Oh hey, guys, Thanks for taking my call. Sure, all right,

1355
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 12: So there's a couple of things I do want to say.

1356
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 12: From my perspective, I've won a tournament out of college.

1357
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 12: I'm not trying to put myself on a pedestal, but

1358
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 12: I'm coming from a championship kind of perspective.

1359
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 9: Now.

1360
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 12: I've been reading a lot online about Brady and how

1361
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 12: everybody has given him a lot of heck online. I mean,

1362
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 12: that's all I ever read about. But to me, Brady's

1363
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 12: like one of the best things that have happened for

1364
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 12: the Bills. The Bills were down, so he used a

1365
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 12: trick play. I've been wanting the Bills to use a

1366
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 12: trick play for years. I've been watching for the past

1367
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 12: couple of years, and like, Brady was my hero at

1368
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 12: that point, and I don't want to hear about people

1369
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 12: saying Brady's this, Brady's that. I feel like people are

1370
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 12: finding somebody to blame for why they lost. And I think,

1371
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 12: like or last Giskaz said, he said something about defense.

1372
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 12: They weren't communicating, things weren't being done right. You know,

1373
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 12: those are things to add. I mean, but we can't

1374
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 12: just sit there and point the finger at somebody and

1375
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 12: say you know, he's the problem. This is who we

1376
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 12: need to work on. You know what, In fact, I

1377
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 12: think Brady should actually like our Brady, you know. I

1378
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 12: think he should be given like the dynamic to do

1379
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 12: what he needs to do. I think he needs to

1380
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,480
Speaker 12: develop as a person, as a coach, as an offensive coordinator,

1381
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 12: and like actually be given reins. I think that's really

1382
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 12: gonna make the Bills better. But there's another thing. Here's

1383
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 12: a Saint Louis Rams. When they want to add Kurt

1384
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 12: Warner and Marshall Faulk. Now, Marshall faugh was a dynamic

1385
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 12: running back, just like Derrick Henry. Now, Derrick Henry is huge,

1386
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 12: He's a monster. He is giant. Norman we have cooked

1387
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 12: he's dynamic too. But if we look and you get

1388
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 12: advice from other like champions, like other people that have

1389
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 12: progressed in the game, I think that's really gonna help

1390
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 12: the Bills. Yeah.

1391
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: I respect what you're saying, Jake, but Brady already has

1392
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: reins of the offense. He wouldn't. I mean proof of

1393
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: that is the fact that he was able to call

1394
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: the trick play that he called. I mean, if that

1395
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: doesn't prove to you he has full reign of calling

1396
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: what the offense he thinks the offense needs.

1397
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what else is, Yeah, I mean, I

1398
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: think he's got as much power as he wants. Yeah,

1399
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: for sure. And and yeah, you can learn a lot

1400
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: of things from other champions and other sports. Mostly it's

1401
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: a mindset about you know where you need to be

1402
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: in those big moments, no question about it. And I

1403
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what else is to

1404
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: tell you, Yeah, that this is an offense that Joe

1405
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: Brady runs. I mean, and I get it, You're right,

1406
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: that trick play thing. A lot of people always call

1407
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: for trick plays. They think it's great, and they think

1408
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 1: it's it makes you look smart and all of that stuff,

1409
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: and it's and it is. A trick plays are always

1410
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: good if they work.

1411
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: But it's also not something you hang your hat on.

1412
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: It's not the it's not the thing that carries you

1413
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: to week in and week out success.

1414
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: And some teams are not susceptible to that.

1415
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: And you know, well, and also let's not forget this.

1416
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: There are certain t plays that are disguised and there

1417
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 2: are others that are readily apparent. Pre snap as soon

1418
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: as Curtis Samuel lines up in the wildcat. The alarm

1419
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: bells are going off for the entire Baltimore defense. Something

1420
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: is happening here. Josh Allen is split out wide to

1421
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 2: the left and Curtis Samuel is in the shotgun like

1422
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: they knew something was coming. It wasn't a disguised trick play.

1423
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: It was one like here it comes, let's seeh exactly so,

1424
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: and that's all part of it.

1425
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, you know so there's there's a couple

1426
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: of elements at work there. Let's squeeze Mark in Jersey

1427
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: City in before the Break what he got first?

1428
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 13: Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for taking my show. I'm

1429
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 13: gonna ask you about a couple of your points. You

1430
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 13: guys always make one. You steve one, you Chris, I think,

1431
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 13: but the game just a physicality issue. They just were

1432
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 13: not like with that first run you just seen. They

1433
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 13: got a hat on a hat and nobody got off

1434
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 13: their block. They were just stuck like fly paper. And

1435
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 13: like you said, CB, they in.

1436
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 14: The second half, I felt, fine, if they don't pull

1437
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 14: that boondoggle slightly past midfield, I think they're in the game.

1438
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: I really do.

1439
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 14: I mean, maybe I'm being a homer. I just think

1440
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 14: it was a physicality issue that they just weren't lathered

1441
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 14: up ready to go to get in the game. And

1442
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 14: I don't again, I don't think they make moves in

1443
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 14: a vacuum. But they added that young kid for a reason.

1444
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 14: Today they wanted to rattle somebody's cage because both of

1445
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 14: your starting dts don't make a tackle in a game

1446
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 14: where you get run on like that, And that's a

1447
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 14: little bit of a I don't like it, But Steve,

1448
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 14: you say this all the time, like why don't teams

1449
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 14: just put like Justin Zimmer you always used him, use

1450
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 14: this guy as a fullback, I mean Ricardo. I mean

1451
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 14: the Chargers are doing that now. That's a Greg Roman thing.

1452
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 14: And another sidebar to that game was that was the

1453
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 14: first time they faced the Raven offense under Todd Monkin.

1454
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 14: The previous three times it was Greg Roman. So that

1455
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 14: was a I think that was something we overlooked the

1456
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 14: little little bit as a collective going in and the

1457
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 14: way these games are being played now you just touched

1458
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 14: on at CB with the passing yards being down and

1459
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 14: just there's going to be an adjustment. Teams are overloading

1460
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 14: the middle of the field with like smaller athletes, we're

1461
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 14: getting closer to positionless football on offense right.

1462
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: And then the other thing we heard coach McDermott and

1463
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: thanks for the call, Mark, And we heard coach McDermott

1464
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 2: say this after the game on Sunday night as part

1465
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: of some of his fixes. Fundamentals were at the top

1466
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: of his list. And when you don't have great pre

1467
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: snap communication or post snap, you are buying fakes hard.

1468
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 2: You're going to be out of position. And then what

1469
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: does that lead to? That leads to mistackles because you're

1470
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: not in position to break down properly and make a

1471
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 2: textbook tackle. And I had them down for eleven miss

1472
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 2: tackles on Sunday night, so I expect them to be

1473
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: drilled to the hilt this week. Number one on not

1474
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: letting your eyes force you to over pursue, and then

1475
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: two being in proper position to make a proper fundamental tackle.

1476
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: It sounds pretty simple, but drilling those simple things has

1477
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: made Buffalo a top five defense for the better part

1478
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: of the last eight years. Gotta take a break here,

1479
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls when we get back here

1480
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live stay with us, eating up and

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Speaker 2: Electric Expert, an official partner of the Buffalo Bills. Heating

1484
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Speaker 2: up this week one Sam Darnold, who has lit the

1485
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 2: league on fire through the first four games. Minnesota four

1486
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: and zero on the season, and it's a revenge game

1487
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 2: this week for mister Donald. The Redhead goes back to Gotham,

1488
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: where his career took a sharp left turn at Albuquerque

1489
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: and never recovered. Playing the team that drafted him, the

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Speaker 2: Jets in.

1491
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Speaker 1: Week five, How delicious will it be?

1492
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: I want him to throw for five hundred and fifty

1493
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: seven and ten touchdowns?

1494
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: Yes, and just and.

1495
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 2: Actually this is in London. This game's in London.

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01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 6: This is it?

1497
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: Yes?

1498
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: I forgot.

1499
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's the worst.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's good. I want the Jets traveling overseas for

1501
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: a week before they play us.

1502
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, all right, I just wanted him to do

1503
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: it in met life in front of the Jet.

1504
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: That would have been good. I mean, not gonna happen, no,

1505
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 2: but that.

1506
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm totally with you. That Donald Jet against the

1507
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: Jets matchup is absolutely tasty. I cannot wait.

1508
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: It is a nine to thirty standalone game on Sunday morning. Really, well,

1509
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: it's in London, that's when they play. So yeah, NFL

1510
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: network game, NFL network only game, that's the only place

1511
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 2: to find it. Cooling down, we're gonna go with Christian

1512
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 2: McCaffrey here. I mean, not that he ever heated up

1513
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,919
Speaker 2: at the start of the season, but now has Achilles.

1514
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 2: Ten to night is in both Achilles, and he's probably

1515
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 2: not gonna play. He's probably on like a Matt Milano timeline.

1516
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: Bill's play the Niners December first. He might not be

1517
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: in that game.

1518
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing, because a lot of people

1519
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: are mad and people, you know, people outside the line.

1520
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: They all feel entitled like they should have really known

1521
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: about Christian McCay. Yeah, fantasy football players, no, I mean,

1522
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's none of your business. Yeah, he was

1523
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: like questionable for week one, right, I mean, they thought

1524
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: he was gonna play and then and now they knew.

1525
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: They're telling everybody it's going to be quite some time

1526
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: before he plays. And you know, some fans, well, Christian

1527
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: McCaffrey fans for sure, are kind of unhappy about it.

1528
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem like they're forthcoming about how bad

1529
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: it was to begin with, So they're taking some heat

1530
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: for that. But how about that losing losing what could

1531
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,440
Speaker 1: be an entire season for tendonitis.

1532
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 2: Can't mess with the achilles.

1533
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: Wow, that's rough.

1534
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: That is rough. It's definitely cooling down, that's for sure.

1535
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: So's yeah, well, there's a lot of things we could

1536
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: have gone with. Aaron Rodgers is cooling, swollen knee, he's

1537
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 1: not feeling, he's getting beat up. It's a lot. I

1538
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: told you a man, A thousand snaps?

1539
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: Are they playing a top thousand snaps? Are they playing

1540
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 2: at Tottenham or Wembley? For that game? It might be

1541
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: Tottenham and we And I'm just going to tell you

1542
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: firsthand after standing on that field service Tottenham garbage not

1543
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 2: good garbage field surface.

1544
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: I I told you before the season started. A thousand

1545
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: snaps has a lot to take in an NFL season.

1546
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a quarter of the way through and

1547
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: swollen knees. He was limping off the field a couple

1548
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: of times the other last week. Is not going to

1549
01:20:59,520 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: get easier.

1550
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

1551
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: five fifty eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We

1552
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 2: go to Duke into pew Next. What's up, Duke?

1553
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 9: Hi?

1554
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 15: How you doing this?

1555
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 4: Is Duke from the pewe Yep, I'm talking about fixing

1556
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 4: the Bills. The Bills don't have any major problems. Every

1557
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 4: team has its problems. The Bills have some, but they're

1558
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,440
Speaker 4: still ahead and shoulders above most of the teams.

1559
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 15: In this league.

1560
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 4: The problem with the Bills is what they got to

1561
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 4: do is tell these guys to turn off their cell phones.

1562
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 4: They sit there and they read the clickbait on the

1563
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 4: internet that says they're the greatest things that Swiss chiefs.

1564
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 4: Because they win three games, they're not going to go undefeated.

1565
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 4: We know that they've got to start believing the nonsense

1566
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 4: and pay attention to what they're doing. Because they're twenty

1567
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 4: year olds. It's going to have an effect. And the

1568
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 4: bottom line is they have to be told forget that stuff.

1569
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 15: Now.

1570
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 4: It's easy to say that doesn't happen, but I'm going

1571
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 4: to tell you, when you're a twenty year old, you

1572
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 4: read this stuff over these were the guys that were

1573
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 4: the greatest players in college. They start to believe it,

1574
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 4: and when they do, it's got to effect or play

1575
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 4: and that's all I gotta say.

1576
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: I'll hang out all right, thanks, Duke.

1577
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: It's easy to get carried away. You're right, And and

1578
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: I know that everybody says they don't they don't listen

1579
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 1: to the hype, and they may not take it seriously,

1580
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: but they do hear it, they do read it.

1581
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's and I can guarantee if there all

1582
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: the time telling them not to buy.

1583
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: Players are too most of the guys, most of them

1584
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: grew up in the environment we live in, and they're like,

1585
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: so they know that most of it is garbage anyway.

1586
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: Uh So they've got a lot of good voices talking

1587
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: to them, like, don't worry about that. But believe me,

1588
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: it's They're just like the rest of us. If you

1589
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: know somebody is having a conversation about you and you

1590
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: can listen in on it, You're going to listen in

1591
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: on it. That is it, Okay, There no two ways

1592
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: about it.

1593
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 3: Now.

1594
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: You can handle it any way you want, but that's

1595
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: the way it works.

1596
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: All right. With that in mind, we go Carmine and kenmore.

1597
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: What do you got first?

1598
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 4: Carmine, Hey, guys, how you doing today?

1599
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 15: Thanks for taking a call.

1600
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: Hey, Chris, I want to ask you what you saw

1601
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: from the booth on that trick play, and Steve, I

1602
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 3: don't know if you have if you're privy to any

1603
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 3: of the game film, but i'm that trick play. Do

1604
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: you know who Josh was throwing to or trying to,

1605
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 3: you know, throw to, you know, because you're trying to

1606
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: watch all the you know, the replays on and they're

1607
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,839
Speaker 3: just focusing on Alan getting hit, you know, the fumble,

1608
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 3: YadA YadA, and that poor kid. He took such a shot.

1609
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the reason he's been durable all

1610
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: that time now is he's big, but he knows how

1611
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 3: to get tackled, you know, and you know, and and

1612
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 3: how to go down if there is such a thing.

1613
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 3: But in that case, he was so vulnerable. He got

1614
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 3: hit so hard, fell so hard. I had to go

1615
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 3: to the chiropractory yesterday. But yeah, so I did answer

1616
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 3: my question. Do you know you know where that play

1617
01:23:58,880 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 3: was going to?

1618
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 15: That's all I got.

1619
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, scar Mine. I'll have to admit live, I'm

1620
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 2: following the ball, so I was not looking downfield yet,

1621
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 2: And then every replay I saw at the time and

1622
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: since has not given us a downfield perspective. I can

1623
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 2: probably check the all twenty two when I get a

1624
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: chance now that it's out today, and let you know

1625
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: if somebody was In fact.

1626
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do next break, maybe at the

1627
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: end of the at the end of the by the

1628
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: end of the break at the right, at the end

1629
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: of the show, I'll be able to look it up

1630
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: and see tell you who he was thrown to.

1631
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but right now I couldn't tell you a who

1632
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: it was or b if somebody was open. Uh, let's

1633
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: go to John and Clarence next.

1634
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 15: What's up John, Hey, guys, and what's up? Yeah, the

1635
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 15: Bills got beat in the trenches. Offensive line wasn't good,

1636
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 15: the defensive line wasn't good, and they just ran all

1637
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 15: over I mean, come on, look at the first play

1638
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 15: the game, eight seven yards for a Touchdown's over.

1639
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if over there. But in fact,

1640
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: I thought just the opposite. I thought the Bills would

1641
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: gather themselves and you know, kind of use it as

1642
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: a you know, I thought they would gather from that

1643
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: and come back into it, And in fact they did

1644
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: in the second half. Took them a little longer than

1645
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: I thought, but they did in the second half, and

1646
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: they got two threes and outs and they got it.

1647
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: It looked like right before, I hate to say it,

1648
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: right before the trick play looked like they were gonna

1649
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: be back in it. They were gonna score again, and

1650
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:32,879
Speaker 1: it was gonna be time. Well, I'll tell you this though, Carmine.

1651
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: The last time the Bills played Josh John John, the

1652
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: last time the Bills played the the Ravens, they were

1653
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: down twenty to three, and they came back and won

1654
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 1: that game twenty three twenty.

1655
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 15: So it was It doesn't mean you're gonna come back

1656
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 15: every game.

1657
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.

1658
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't.

1659
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm and it. Believe me, you never want to

1660
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: be down that much. But this is a team that's

1661
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: really good and they've got a big engine. They're gonna

1662
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: come back from stuff like that. I'm after one play,

1663
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me that the game was over. I

1664
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: mean easy to say two days later.

1665
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 15: If Baltimore loses that game for seasons over, why do

1666
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 15: you think they think so? Well, they didn't play well.

1667
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 15: They were one and two, all.

1668
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: Right, and they had and they had given up leads before.

1669
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 15: So for you, why did they want They wanted the

1670
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 15: game more than the buffo Bills and.

1671
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: That's and that's kay, and it's fine to say that, John.

1672
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: And I'll say this though, too, John. I mean, the

1673
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens had done the exact same not exactly, not

1674
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: from the first play of the game, but they had

1675
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: done the exact same thing to the Los Angeles Las

1676
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, and they did the exact same thing to Jacksonville.

1677
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 1: Jacksonville almost got back in it and beat him, and

1678
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders did so Dallas, I'm sorry, Dallas, not Raiders.

1679
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys almost came back and beat him when

1680
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: they were down exactly the same. So Baltimore puked up

1681
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: two big leads, lost one and almost lost a second one.

1682
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: So to think the game was over after that one play,

1683
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's hindsight. You're just you know, you're you're

1684
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: trumpeting like you knew it was gonna happen because it

1685
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: already did.

1686
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 2: So there you go. Yeah, yeah, I mean seriously.

1687
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I had that. I was surprised at how little that

1688
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: that effect. When they got back on the field and

1689
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I saw Josh coming back and the like we're gonna

1690
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: be all right now because we're gonna answer it.

1691
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 15: You know.

1692
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: Of course, it didn't happen that way, and I get it,

1693
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: but that's the way I felt. I felt. I did

1694
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: not feel that game was over.

1695
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back. Some

1696
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: final thoughts and maybe a phone call we can squeeze

1697
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: in if we got time here on one Bill's Live

1698
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 2: presented by Colida of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's ready, all right?

1699
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: Some thoughts on the tweetsheet here before we're done for

1700
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: the day. Julio says, nothing to fit get healthy one

1701
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: week does not make a problem. Alex says, have we

1702
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: tried unplugging them and plugging them back in?

1703
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1704
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: Tom says, no need to fix what is in broken.

1705
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 2: Play your game and get healthy. Henry made our backups

1706
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: finally look like backups. They were playing really well and

1707
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 2: not showing any cracks. Henry shattered them into little bits

1708
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 2: we could and would win if healthy. And then Nick

1709
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: says defense is just a matter of getting healthy on offense.

1710
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: Joe Brady will just have to adapt now that teams

1711
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: are getting tape on his offense. There is something to that. Also,

1712
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: we're going to really have to keep our eye on

1713
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: practice this week to see if the likelihood of Terrell

1714
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: Bernard's return is imminent or whether he's still working his

1715
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 2: way back in and maybe it takes another week, but

1716
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 2: he is going to do more this week. For Shawn McDermott.

1717
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 2: And your starting middle linebacker, who's your defensive captain is

1718
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: in the lineup. That helps.

1719
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely every healthy body helps, and they've been without him

1720
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: for a minute, so we'll see. I mean, yeah, I'm

1721
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: not gonna panic either over now. These guys are going

1722
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: to get exposed. I don't think any of that's going on.

1723
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: I think they can still play and they're gonna play well,

1724
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: and I think the entire team is. It was a

1725
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: little bit of a reality check.

1726
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the only fix really here is fundamentals.

1727
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean, some of their tackling form was not good,

1728
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: partially because they were at a position over pursuing buying

1729
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: into fakes too much and as a result you got mistackles.

1730
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not afraid to either say, hey, Baltimore

1731
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: is a really good team. They were the one seed

1732
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: last year, and I think in their minds at least,

1733
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: and if not for real, they got a little better.

1734
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry makes a difference for them. I'd like to

1735
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: see him. When somebody is able to do something with

1736
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: their running game on defense, how good they can adapt,

1737
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see.

1738
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. We've got Greg Cosel tomorrow.

1739
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: This week, it's a short week for us because we

1740
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 2: have no show on Friday due to Sabers, So Greg

1741
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: Cosell joins us tomorrow. Tune in for that. We'll see

1742
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 2: it won