Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we talk
Speaker 1: hall of Fame, Hall of Shame. There we go, that's it,
Speaker 1: and we got Patrick Mahomes and he the Goat kind
Speaker 1: of feels that way. And we talked about some nerdy
Speaker 1: cap space stuff, free agency, draft, how to build a team.
Speaker 1: And love is in the air. Guys. We got love
Speaker 1: letters to you and to these guys. Maybe check it out.
Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Santana Moss and Fred Smooth.
Speaker 2: I'm the cupid.
Speaker 1: Is it's Valentine's I.
Speaker 2: Come and spread up now.
Speaker 3: I don't really like the holiday because I think it's
Speaker 3: about commerce, and if you love your mate, I actually
Speaker 3: love you the three hundred and sixty four other days, right,
Speaker 3: not just one day to show my love. So I
Speaker 3: am you know, I'm with it. I play alone, but
Speaker 3: I don't think I is one of the holidays that
Speaker 3: I really get involved in. No chocolate, the balloons.
Speaker 4: But I think all the holidays about commerce, it's about money.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a couple of days in there.
Speaker 2: Who can celebrate whatever day.
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking you think about it, the way they
Speaker 4: set up these things it's about them making some kind
Speaker 4: of it's about about making money, yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Easter is that way same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't just put Easter into money making to
Speaker 2: think about.
Speaker 1: Are there any rabbits with half yea all?
Speaker 2: Where did that come to think about?
Speaker 4: When you it's Christmas time and they already putting up
Speaker 4: hards in the grocery store talking about about the time
Speaker 4: dating around the cone.
Speaker 3: On the next comers you got new, you got New
Speaker 3: years after the is a comer's day, but then you
Speaker 3: got the fourth for July. I think there's comers. I
Speaker 3: think there's more about bringing people together.
Speaker 1: Memoir of your day.
Speaker 2: It might have been bad food, you like your birthday,
Speaker 2: not like the other day.
Speaker 1: Also, I wanted to ask you something real quick because
Speaker 1: Tanna was talking about this and I think this is
Speaker 1: I know we're getting a little sidetrack, Chason, that's my bat,
Speaker 1: but I gotta asked this question. Yeah, as we were
Speaker 1: talking about the Hall of Fame thing, you guys are
Speaker 1: talking about Devin Hester. Yeah, Tanna, I want to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Devin Huster thing because it's it's
Speaker 1: really insightful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was all I was all for one, you know,
Speaker 4: universal guy right universe in Miam connections there, and I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, sooner or lady, he's gonna be
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer just the numbers wise, but I.
Speaker 2: Didn't look into the numbers yea.
Speaker 4: And it was a friend of mine that just was
Speaker 4: kind of like pissed about other guys. Yeah, And he
Speaker 4: asked me weeks ago about some of the guys special teams,
Speaker 4: why who I thought should be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 4: and I, you know, I always bring up Being Mitch. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he said, okay, Tanner, you like B Mitch and
Speaker 4: this particular guy likes B Mitch. Now go look up
Speaker 4: BE Mitch's numbers. And I looked up those numbers and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: They're not even comparable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is incomparable? Because I think.
Speaker 3: His second to Jerry Rice and just all purpose.
Speaker 1: That is a that's crazy crazy.
Speaker 4: So when you look at be Mitch has like nineteen
Speaker 4: thousand yards and then like everybody else is like just they.
Speaker 2: Never it's never gonna be pixed hundred. It's never like that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really, But just to get back to the Devin Hester thing, Look,
Speaker 4: I'm one of those guys, when you do what you do,
Speaker 4: you deserve to be, you know, you.
Speaker 1: Deserve to have He was like he was like a
Speaker 1: phenomenon in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was.
Speaker 4: But the thing I would say about it just knowing that, yes,
Speaker 4: he's in there now, it's it's opening the doors for
Speaker 4: a lot of other guys that now have the opportunity
Speaker 4: because it's the numbers game.
Speaker 2: We've been heard that is for a long time. It's
Speaker 2: the numbers game.
Speaker 4: You talking about receiving, talking about dB, talking about tight
Speaker 4: whatever position it is.
Speaker 2: But one of the things that stood out to me
Speaker 2: just how many other guys have more numbers.
Speaker 4: They have been was beating everybody in touchdowns and when
Speaker 4: you look up the numbers, he's nowhere near a lot
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 2: It's about ten pros yards. Yes, yeah, yah, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yards. So I'm all for you, and we
Speaker 2: in the house. We in there.
Speaker 4: But when you really look at the thing, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be a lot of guys now.
Speaker 1: Talking talking about like Cordell Patterson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of guys.
Speaker 4: I just I was blown away to hear the numbers
Speaker 4: from other guys like Cordell Patterson has ten kick returns
Speaker 4: for touchdown, six of them over one hundred yards.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous, Like that is hard to do, you understand.
Speaker 4: And Devin Hester had more collective touch shutdowns. But when
Speaker 4: it came into yards, everybody else was in front of them.
Speaker 2: So I was like, wow, he's in there.
Speaker 3: I think they are taken into account. A lot of
Speaker 3: people kicked away from him, especially, said.
Speaker 2: That's the first thing I said.
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, but you gotta think and that's more
Speaker 4: part return wise, But I said, too, I think the
Speaker 4: excitement of how he.
Speaker 2: Did things, yeah, kind of gave him a knot.
Speaker 4: And what we talked about, it's a notoriety type of
Speaker 4: thing too, so popularity contest. So if guys there speak
Speaker 4: about me and I did it in the biggest game,
Speaker 4: then that gives me more of a nod. But then
Speaker 4: we go back to the star Wark and lynz One.
Speaker 4: Star Wark let the league, let the team and receiving
Speaker 4: yards every year and had more yards.
Speaker 2: Than linz One. Lyn Swan went in that way before
Speaker 2: star Wark and beating with the big plays. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was always in the Super Bowl game.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about Devin Hester, but I really wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about you know, because I think that that
Speaker 1: was really interesting when you were talking about that.
Speaker 2: Bring the elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about our guy in London?
Speaker 3: First of all, willis Mississippi old mintor old Miss, high
Speaker 3: character guy, one of the best linebackers of his generation.
Speaker 2: No, he's an old miss Rebels.
Speaker 1: Oh Miss said yeah, but.
Speaker 3: This dude should not be in there before London Fletcher.
Speaker 3: This way, I think is all wrong. I can't say
Speaker 3: how candy sports writers vote on Hall of Fame. Why
Speaker 3: not hall of famers vote on Hall of Fame? Because
Speaker 3: I know old Hall of famers would not leave be
Speaker 3: Mitch in London Fletcher out. They got too much respect
Speaker 3: for London played double the Tide, won a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: and did all his numbers compared to ray Lewis.
Speaker 2: What do ray lewis? I just saying be Mitch numbers
Speaker 2: compared to Jerry Roth. What are you thinking? But that
Speaker 2: just shows you too.
Speaker 4: It's like one of the things that we say it's
Speaker 4: a popularity thing. And then goes back to what Dion
Speaker 4: alluded to. If you're gonna put guys in there that, yeah,
Speaker 4: who deserve to be there, then the guys who more
Speaker 4: than deserve to be there, needs to be on different
Speaker 4: layers and the different tiersot Hall of Good shouldn't be
Speaker 4: just everybody we made it.
Speaker 2: It should be like now this his first first team
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Now you have to break it up in LA And
Speaker 4: I think when it's getting to the point that where
Speaker 4: now it seems like it's a free for all.
Speaker 2: Now everyone is getting numbers.
Speaker 3: You know if you if you a fantasy football darling,
Speaker 3: you're getting in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think like to think about like
Speaker 1: the one thing I will say about Devin Hester and
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis is Patrick Willis was like the linebacker of
Speaker 1: his era and then Hester was like his his return
Speaker 1: percentage for touchdown was like it's ridiculous. So, I mean
Speaker 1: there was a little bit different element there. But I
Speaker 1: think you guys bring up great points like the consistency
Speaker 1: that Fletcher played with, the consistency that be Mitch played with.
Speaker 1: Like there's value.
Speaker 2: And they got championship rings. You can't say they don't
Speaker 2: them to.
Speaker 4: Be Missss a guy that was used heavenly in the
Speaker 4: offense and with making plays in office. He just wanted
Speaker 4: back there coming in and he was coming in on
Speaker 4: third down him, Dave Maggi, Eric mckeff.
Speaker 3: Started the third down back all right, So yeah, did
Speaker 3: you leave your touch on the game? Yes, I did
Speaker 3: by the return game, by the third down beat and
Speaker 3: catching the ball out the backfield, so yes they did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I think it just raised the eyebrow.
Speaker 4: And I know we don't want to get too far
Speaker 4: with this. Jason probably gonna be able to Jason to
Speaker 4: come out, but we gotta tell you, yours's one of
Speaker 4: those things that, like I said, when I heard the name,
Speaker 4: throw up to you, my boy, But then when I
Speaker 4: looked at the numbers, I'm.
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Speaker 1: All right, So obviously Hall of Fame was a big thing.
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about that real quick. But yeah,
Speaker 1: another big thing, man, was the Super Bowl game.
Speaker 3: Ayah.
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna open it up to like high
Speaker 1: level thoughts to start, Teddy, do you want to start
Speaker 1: this song?
Speaker 2: You can start there. I love to start it off.
Speaker 2: It was a good game, yeah, a good game.
Speaker 4: It's everything, But it was a point in the game,
Speaker 4: and I leaned over to whoever was next to me
Speaker 4: and having their spirit. I was like, I'm loving this
Speaker 4: right now, but San France has to score. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: you distill a one possession game. And with the other
Speaker 4: guy who was that quarterback knowing him, I say, man,
Speaker 4: the second half he go, they go, they're gonna get
Speaker 4: together defensive in offense, they gonna get this thing together.
Speaker 4: Ass the Herbins scored, it might get ugger than the
Speaker 4: second half. And lord, I didn't know it was gonna
Speaker 4: come by somebody muffling a punt on their.
Speaker 2: Foot they hit.
Speaker 1: I probably hurt you a little bit.
Speaker 2: To me. I think that was just like the was
Speaker 2: a backbreak.
Speaker 4: It was the it was like there it is, yeah
Speaker 4: there the play was the next play they scored, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, it is right.
Speaker 3: Because they went three and out and when they punished
Speaker 3: their ball, it was taying to turn the game around.
Speaker 3: And that's what that's that's Patrick Mahomes is one of
Speaker 3: those lead to weapons where it doesn't matter what the
Speaker 3: situation holds. If he's your quarterback and I'm on his team,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's no point that I think we
Speaker 3: got the game.
Speaker 2: Like when they let him on the field for that
Speaker 2: lad drive like.
Speaker 4: I want to I want to play my I want
Speaker 4: to play my message I sent to my group chat.
Speaker 2: Can I play it on here?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have to murder. I'm gonna say you,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to play it, bro because it would
Speaker 4: it bothered me because I was rooting for forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: But I also told hat I won't be mad.
Speaker 3: And then we then we had to choose, and I
Speaker 3: chose the Kansas Energy right again.
Speaker 1: It's after we talked that, I was talking to people
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want San fran to win,
Speaker 1: but I can't, like in good conscious pick against Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes because he's he's like such a unique player man,
Speaker 1: like his ability to elevate that offense like usually you
Speaker 1: see like it's it's such an interesting like thought experiment.
Speaker 1: San Francisco's off offense elevates Brock pretty Mahomes elevates Kansas
Speaker 1: City's offense. Everything he does right when you watch like it,
Speaker 1: and he does it in a different way than like
Speaker 1: the Mannings and the Brady's such the bar he does.
Speaker 3: It different than all he watered through there for twenty
Speaker 3: five d orts and I say.
Speaker 1: This over win is already time. You got it.
Speaker 4: It's ready, Jason, you know, and do what you do
Speaker 4: after this. But I know, I'm just letting you know,
Speaker 4: just do what you're doing when you hear it, because
Speaker 4: it might be a little I don't That's what I said.
Speaker 4: But this is how I feel outter the game is over,
Speaker 4: because I just was in disbelief, like, wow, man, they
Speaker 4: keep them them, keep Andy Reid and my homes together. Man,
Speaker 4: I don't matter who the team, what they record during
Speaker 4: the regular season, if they get to.
Speaker 3: Them, dude, they still knew the game.
Speaker 2: You know what, Let me let me speak on this.
Speaker 2: You look, you sound like you heard what you say.
Speaker 1: They cut off, cut the up.
Speaker 4: It might not make it, but because it was too much,
Speaker 4: it was first grade, it was too much for Jason
Speaker 4: probably beep out, but just to just to just to
Speaker 4: kind of chime in, give y'all a little bit of
Speaker 4: what I was saying. Basically, what I was saying was
Speaker 4: bro I never seen anything like Andy Reid and Pat
Speaker 4: Mahomes together. We talked about Belichick and Brady that it
Speaker 4: was specially with those guys because you saw just Belichick
Speaker 4: how his teams responded as every situation.
Speaker 2: Bro, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: That Kansas City defense has matured in the last few looked.
Speaker 2: They one of the best defensive.
Speaker 4: It was key plays that you can point out that
Speaker 4: this won the game for them. No display won the
Speaker 4: game defensively, this play won the game.
Speaker 2: This play a lockdown.
Speaker 4: But what I wanted to say about Andy Reid and
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes won.
Speaker 2: Pat took over that game.
Speaker 4: He showed what Cam been talking about when it comes
Speaker 4: to being specially at the quarterback position and being being
Speaker 4: a game being a game manager or or a playmaker or.
Speaker 2: A game changer.
Speaker 4: Because Mahomes did that. He said on fourth and third
Speaker 4: and short or fourth and short, if it's not that
Speaker 4: I'm running, yeah, I'm taking off. And he did it,
Speaker 4: and he did it time and time again. He showed
Speaker 4: you that I got this game in my hands like
Speaker 4: it's not hard. It ain't I can't make the decision
Speaker 4: win or when not to be the guy. And he
Speaker 4: showed that, especially that last drive. But the reason why
Speaker 4: I brought that up because we talk about too we
Speaker 4: see so many offenses struggle trying to find the right
Speaker 4: play to move the ball.
Speaker 2: And Andy Reid has come up with the same stuff.
Speaker 4: And the reason he we we ran four weeks ago, dude,
Speaker 4: when he just know how to do it when it's
Speaker 4: time to do it.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy, like, because we talked about this on
Speaker 1: Tickets to the Draft podcast you're on there right, We
Speaker 1: talked about the quarterbacks and just how you need a
Speaker 1: player that elevates you, like it makes it so much
Speaker 1: easier because when you watch Kansas City's offense, it's not
Speaker 1: like every play is. It's not perfect.
Speaker 2: They not whooping with your peing out the time.
Speaker 1: They do a good job, but it's like it's him.
Speaker 1: He's the guy man, He's the playmaker. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, it's like is he the goat? It kind
Speaker 1: of feels like he's welling his way, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It tastes like goat milk. It's probably goat milk. He's
Speaker 2: on his way. He drinks goat man. We can talk
Speaker 2: about his all day, but he's on his way. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: he's on his way.
Speaker 3: And I knew the game was over when Jermaine the
Speaker 3: pre walked out there with them socks get out when
Speaker 3: he had had time when he had on them, Yo, Hunt,
Speaker 3: I knew it when you say this is Kansas City
Speaker 3: Game two win right there? And I hate the rubbing
Speaker 3: then because I know y'all Shanahan Knights. I know y'all
Speaker 3: Shanahan Knights. To today I was yet again, Oh.
Speaker 2: Boy, was yet so close but yet so far away?
Speaker 2: That hurts, right, Let's.
Speaker 1: Talk about that a little bit. So overtime. So the
Speaker 1: overtime thing, right, Overtime rules for the Super Bowl, yes,
Speaker 1: a little bit different than the regular season. What did
Speaker 1: you think about his decision to take the football to
Speaker 1: start it off?
Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at it. I wasn't mad at day.
Speaker 4: Can I say I didn't know the rules either? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I know I had changed them ang time.
Speaker 2: They changed them after the Kansas City Again, I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't and I guess too because I've been away
Speaker 4: from the game for like nine years playing wise, but
Speaker 4: even watching it, I didn't know that it was different
Speaker 4: rules pass and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I knew it over time.
Speaker 3: I mean, Tony roh want them start to talk about
Speaker 3: it doing the what's the name doing the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Like, hey, the rules are not the same.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because for whatever reason, on the TV
Speaker 1: I was watching on it was in Spanish the whole time,
Speaker 1: so I didn't get that that element. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are the rules, Like, are they changed wed you it?
Speaker 1: I was, I was just watching on normal cable and
Speaker 1: my father in law has the settings where it's like
Speaker 1: it only does the Spanish broadcast.
Speaker 2: You had a phil Model TV.
Speaker 1: The commercials are in English, the game is in Spanish,
Speaker 1: my god, and then sometimes the sideline report is in English.
Speaker 1: So obviously I don't understand you wacked.
Speaker 2: The game and Taco be No.
Speaker 1: I was at U's house and I was like, what
Speaker 1: are we watching those? And we couldn't fix it. So
Speaker 1: the whole time it was just like.
Speaker 3: So you basically watched us just seeing in span but.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's in English. So I didn't get the rules.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure it out as I'm watching.
Speaker 1: I'm looking on my phone. But okay, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: So the thing that I want to say about the
Speaker 1: colle shan any thing is if you take the ball first,
Speaker 1: I think you need to have the urgency to score
Speaker 1: a touchdo on regardless because your guy Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: still there, but he's gonna score a touchdown. But that's
Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk about it. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. I want to get your thought.
Speaker 2: I was gonna I was gonna say, I feel you
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 4: But then who's to say, don't score the three points,
Speaker 4: don't go if you feel you gotta score. So at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, who to say our defense
Speaker 4: not going to just be on one and stop them,
Speaker 4: you know, because they basically had him, had him in
Speaker 4: a wrapt a couple of times, and he did what
Speaker 4: he do best.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take off.
Speaker 1: But I think the other thing that gives you is
Speaker 1: like by So they interviewed both coaches, and Andy Reid's
Speaker 1: thought was, we're gonna get the ball, second, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go down, We're gonna score a touchdown, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: go for two. The thing that if you score a
Speaker 1: field goal and I know I need a touchdown, I'm
Speaker 1: going for every four done.
Speaker 2: Macau took cal credit credit.
Speaker 4: He was he expected them to score and he won't
Speaker 4: get into the third and you know the.
Speaker 2: Third time, that's the sudden depth rooms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I mean, look, bro, at the
Speaker 4: end of the day. Damn if you do, Damn if
Speaker 4: you don't, there we go. Yeah, I looked at it.
Speaker 4: I mean, the man, they played the phenomenal game, and
Speaker 4: that's the thing. And I'm like, bro, like, who's to
Speaker 4: say they was going to score? Who's to say that
Speaker 4: them three points weren't gonna be all they needed? But
Speaker 4: it was just one of those games to where Mahomes
Speaker 4: just put itself on that ghost that is like, he goes,
Speaker 4: y'all want to see MJ.
Speaker 2: That's how MJ takeover games football football. Jason to Jay,
Speaker 2: did I not say that the score was gonna be
Speaker 2: twenty to sell? He said it's gonna win by field goal.
Speaker 2: He said it was gonna be a field goal game.
Speaker 2: Called it.
Speaker 3: I called it the numbers that I called I was
Speaker 3: so cl I was seventeen twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I know I was with if you guys listen to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl predictions, go back and check that out.
Speaker 1: Leave it in the comments. We're in fact checking Fred.
Speaker 1: So thank you for helping us remember seventeen. We never
Speaker 1: know if Fred's time twenty.
Speaker 2: Seventeen, Kansas City is what I say. You said something
Speaker 2: similar that.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what it was, but I know, we
Speaker 4: was going for San Fran and he said it's gonna
Speaker 4: be a field goal game with you know, sant Fran
Speaker 4: and I was like, twenty eight seventeen saning Frian. But bro,
Speaker 4: it was one of the games that I can say
Speaker 4: I truly enjoyed. I enjoyed watching every.
Speaker 2: Viewed Super Bowl of all time.
Speaker 3: They say plus seven percent, they say swis percent.
Speaker 2: Swift this. How y'all feel about this?
Speaker 1: I love it? Man. Like I saw something on Instagram
Speaker 1: the other day that I thought was that I thought
Speaker 1: was great. It was this little girl, she's probably eleven
Speaker 1: twelve years old. She's watching the game and the dad's like,
Speaker 1: you know what the tight endings? He's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Like when is the tight end light up? She knows
Speaker 1: what's holding? She knows. She's like, uh, She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a holding. She's like investment. And it's a whole
Speaker 1: generation of people, a whole demographic of people that are
Speaker 1: getting to share in this game that we love and
Speaker 1: I don't because of Taylor Swift. Great, bring more people
Speaker 1: to the party. Because I love football. I think it's awesome,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't bother me at all.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I loved when my guy kissed her and
Speaker 3: swung her around.
Speaker 2: It's the coffiti I might not say to go down.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is I enjoy it. I don't care
Speaker 3: why you came to the game.
Speaker 2: I'm just happy you did.
Speaker 4: Absolutely I wasn't. I wasn't tripping on with these and
Speaker 4: who who brought what I just said. Look, at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, man, it's one of those games
Speaker 4: that you want to be able to share that kind
Speaker 4: of atmosphere or that that entertainment with your family.
Speaker 2: But it's a super Bowl.
Speaker 4: And then not only that when you have man, hats
Speaker 4: off to jay Z or whoever's you know a part
Speaker 4: of getting those halftime shows to be what they are
Speaker 4: now because man, I never anticipated halftime shows the way
Speaker 4: I'm doing now.
Speaker 2: We go the history of the halftime show. Whole thing
Speaker 2: started with that.
Speaker 3: So we got to think Keevi and AA Wayne because
Speaker 3: they the comedy show Sketch Show did a super Bowl
Speaker 3: show and thirty.
Speaker 2: Million people went to watch it.
Speaker 3: Really in the super Bowl like we need to do
Speaker 3: our own show, and that's how the show.
Speaker 4: But I'm just talking about far as even if you
Speaker 4: think about when they started because we can can we
Speaker 4: can go back to Michael Jackson to print all those
Speaker 4: guys who will have some terrible Now you know this
Speaker 4: this era were in now with jay Z being a
Speaker 4: part of it, it seems like he's picking the right
Speaker 4: people to trying to go out there.
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Speaker 1: Helm. Okay, so free agency is coming up, yes, And
Speaker 1: a lot of fans have been asking me, oh, we
Speaker 1: got all this salary cap. We got the most salary
Speaker 1: cap in the NFL. Right, yeah, And I just thought
Speaker 1: today and Jason thought today would be a good day
Speaker 1: to talk about the salary.
Speaker 2: Let's spend some money.
Speaker 1: Let's spend some money, Let's spend a lot of people
Speaker 1: say that, but I don't think people understand like what's.
Speaker 2: Going on, and it's up to us to explain it.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to read some numbers. Right, So the commanders,
Speaker 1: right now, we have seventy three million dollars seventy three
Speaker 1: point six million dollars in cap space. Effective cap space,
Speaker 1: which is a different number, is twenty sixty teen point five. Okay.
Speaker 1: Compare that to the Titans. The Titans have sixty five
Speaker 1: point seven, so they have more effective cap space.
Speaker 2: So why is that because they got less of a
Speaker 2: rasta than we do.
Speaker 1: They actually have more guys.
Speaker 2: Physically on the roster. But I'm saying, hi, end guy, right,
Speaker 2: we got So.
Speaker 1: What's going on here is your cap space number is
Speaker 1: correlated to total rosters. They ask to be fifty one
Speaker 1: guys on the roster for your total cap space number
Speaker 1: to be working. Right now, this effective cap space number
Speaker 1: doesn't apply to the commanders because they're anticipating we need
Speaker 1: to sign six guys because we only have forty five,
Speaker 1: only forty five guys on the roster right of last
Speaker 1: year's roster, Twenty six of those guys are free agents, right,
Speaker 1: so that number is going to come down on right.
Speaker 2: Drafted half a team, you can make a whole.
Speaker 1: Team, drastic, you get to make a whole team, that's right.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of people that need to
Speaker 1: come back. So I've heard a lot of fans. Jason's
Speaker 1: dad was telling me this the other day. You've got
Speaker 1: to get after I got to sign everybody signed to
Speaker 1: all the best free agents. So I just went online
Speaker 1: last night because I'm a nerd. You know. It was
Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock. I almost sexed. I almost texted Fred
Speaker 1: free what you do? But I did because Fred was
Speaker 1: going to make fun of me, So I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: So I texted Jason as set basically what I did is.
Speaker 1: I went through and I resigned all the free agent
Speaker 1: on our team, all to all twenty six guys, like
Speaker 1: just resigned them to rosters. So like, so Cam Camp, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fourteen point seven million dollar contract was what they
Speaker 1: online and kind of anticipated was gonna get Kendall Fuller
Speaker 1: was about fourteen or thirteen point nine. Right, went through,
Speaker 1: and then I assigned basically like two million dollar value
Speaker 1: for like Cody Barton just because you need that linebacker.
Speaker 2: Adam for just the year money.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's the annual value of the contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got so worried about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so for Cam as an example, he's probably going
Speaker 1: to sign something in the realm of like it'll be
Speaker 1: like fifty forty years, fifty million something like that, right approximate.
Speaker 1: So I just went down and did that, and I
Speaker 1: was trying to try to be conservative. And then for
Speaker 1: the defensive end spot, I said, Genevian clown County signed
Speaker 1: for seven and a half million last year. If we
Speaker 1: get a guy like that kind of has a veteran
Speaker 1: stop gap that d maybe Yeah, So I even did that,
Speaker 1: But Hassan reddicks cap numbers and just malate a Camp
Speaker 1: number next year sixty million dollars. So just so I
Speaker 1: was really conservative to start the number that I came
Speaker 1: out with. Do you want to guess what it was?
Speaker 1: Tell me one hundred and seven million dollars. So you
Speaker 1: open the cap over the cap, just resigning the guys
Speaker 1: that we had. Now, there's rules here, So let me
Speaker 1: just explain one really important rule. There's the fifty one
Speaker 1: man rule in a salary cap, and basically it takes
Speaker 1: your fifty one top salaries and those are the only
Speaker 1: numbers that count against the cap. Yeah right, So for example,
Speaker 1: like if we've had ninety guys on the roster, those
Speaker 1: bottom forty guys, yeah don't or thirty nine guys, yeah
Speaker 1: don't count. So training camp word yeah yeah. So but again,
Speaker 1: so if I sign somebody to a ten million dollar
Speaker 1: deal and I bump out a two million dollar deal,
Speaker 1: that two million dollar deal doesn't count against the cap.
Speaker 1: So I didn't do that, right, And they have other
Speaker 1: rules or you can get like me, yeah yeah, wiggle room, yeah,
Speaker 1: wigga room. But there's also guys that like veteran EXEPT
Speaker 1: contract yeah right, where it's like I'm signing a veteran contract,
Speaker 1: but he's.
Speaker 2: Not gonna cout against his cap, correct.
Speaker 1: So there are ways around some of that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just want fans to hear that that if
Speaker 1: we just resigned the guys that aren't on the team.
Speaker 2: It's a whole lot of money.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money.
Speaker 3: I want the fan to think about it, like the
Speaker 3: Uncle Sam just gave you one hundred dollars?
Speaker 2: How much do you owe Uncle Saint? Right, so you
Speaker 2: ain't really got one hundred dollars, you understand it. You
Speaker 2: stay in Nordon, Virginia.
Speaker 3: You got sixty dollars, like you understand where are you at?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So obviously we can resign. You know, I think
Speaker 1: the big contracts were Curtis Samuel was eleven million dollars,
Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller was fourteen, and Cam Curll was fourteen. So
Speaker 1: there's moves and money to be allocated to big veteran players, right,
Speaker 1: But it's just about where you want to allocate that money.
Speaker 1: So for me, I'll ask you guys this, Yeah, how
Speaker 1: do we effectively allocate this cap money? Like what's the goal?
Speaker 1: Obviously we got to resign the depth, but after that,
Speaker 1: where we think we want to put put those resources.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you a question though, two, because
Speaker 4: this is something that I've been pondering and ever since
Speaker 4: we was going to brain this up. I was thinking
Speaker 4: about it the other day and I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 4: because I feel like you have a lot of knowledge
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 2: If I signed one of those guys, the.
Speaker 4: Kendall Fullers, let's say, you know, let's say Curtis Sammy
Speaker 4: for the eleven million, and I'm actually this because i
Speaker 4: feel like this was done to me a couple of times.
Speaker 2: If my cap hate has worth.
Speaker 4: Eleven million, but I'm not giving him that. Who eleven
Speaker 4: that first year.
Speaker 2: They giving me seven? They giving me seven, So some
Speaker 2: of that on the back end if one is count Well.
Speaker 3: The thing about it is the seven become hard cap,
Speaker 3: the risk becomes salary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the thing.
Speaker 2: So but I'm actioning does it affect my cash?
Speaker 1: So this is the yearly number. So basically what this
Speaker 1: number would include is like signing bonus, so like yours.
Speaker 1: Let's say, let's just take an easy number. So you're signing.
Speaker 1: Your signing bonus is ten million dollars. Yeah, your base
Speaker 1: salaries too, Okay, the total value of that contract for
Speaker 1: two years is what is that fourteen million dollars over
Speaker 1: the two years. The signing bonus, you would get that
Speaker 1: this next year in twenty twenty four, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it gets pro rated over the life of the deal.
Speaker 1: So basically they give you the way the team bills
Speaker 1: it is five million twenty twenty four, five million twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. So in addition to this effective cap space
Speaker 1: number and money that we need to allocate somewhere, we
Speaker 1: have dead cap, right, which comes from contracts that are
Speaker 1: no longer on the books, but we're still paying salary
Speaker 1: cap to those guys. They're still still paying signing bonus
Speaker 1: for those guys. That makes sense. So that's how they
Speaker 1: proaate the deal. So you see it like another thing
Speaker 1: they could do in terms of restructuring the cap is,
Speaker 1: let's say we've got drawn payin right, we give him
Speaker 1: a signing bonus, we extend the length of his deal,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden his number goes way down,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we have more effective captain.
Speaker 4: I understand all that, but I was actioning the reason
Speaker 4: why I brought that up because this happened to me
Speaker 4: a couple of times, particularly here when I first got here.
Speaker 4: My signing bonus was like, you know, okay, you don't
Speaker 4: want that now, my agent, you don't want that. He's like, bro,
Speaker 4: you don't want all that money now, but that's going
Speaker 4: to be a bigger hit for you two and for
Speaker 4: the team. So we're going to push a lot of
Speaker 4: this through over the year of your contract.
Speaker 2: So what I was action because I didn't look at it.
Speaker 2: Then does it affect the cap?
Speaker 1: It does affect the cap, but it can affect differently.
Speaker 4: So let's say, for example, so if that number was
Speaker 4: push and made me get less upfront, do I still
Speaker 4: get hit for the Do we still look.
Speaker 2: At that as eleven million? Or we look at it
Speaker 2: given that three whatever solid chicky is that year?
Speaker 4: That's answer. My question is, so, so it's not going
Speaker 4: to be there unless they.
Speaker 2: Can defer it.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's pro rated.
Speaker 2: It's not deferred.
Speaker 1: It's pro rated, right. So like let's say you got
Speaker 1: the ten million dollars right, the ten million dollars check,
Speaker 1: you would get that deferred over here. And so what
Speaker 1: they some people do is they get their salary backloaded
Speaker 1: right to help the team out, because that again, that
Speaker 1: effects So I think who did that? John Allen did
Speaker 1: that right, You probably did it too. You're backloaded contract.
Speaker 1: You still get signing bonus the same amount of the
Speaker 1: course the deal, but your salary is higher in the
Speaker 1: back end because you're.
Speaker 4: You're you're getting that sign of bones with yourself and
Speaker 4: it's guaranteed because they didn't push to correct.
Speaker 1: So that's the one way to do it. But so
Speaker 1: in terms of resources here understanding that kind of really
Speaker 1: complicated landscape positions, you guys think we need to identify
Speaker 1: in this draft in free agency, in the in in
Speaker 1: free agency, and then how does that affect the draft?
Speaker 3: Bacon Bacon, Oh, I want bag boys, I want three
Speaker 3: hundred pounds, Like, because you got to ask yourself, free agency,
Speaker 3: what are you getting the free agents? I'm getting somebody
Speaker 3: that already know what they bring in to the table.
Speaker 3: I'm getting somebody. I'm getting you at the probably at
Speaker 3: the peak of your powers right now, and I'm getting
Speaker 3: you to solidify something like I don't go to free
Speaker 3: agents to get ifs. I think that's what we've made
Speaker 3: mistakes at too much. Like for instance, y'all brought it up.
Speaker 3: We signed cart Curtis Samuel. I was then say no
Speaker 3: because I have two guys. I would say I was
Speaker 3: ready to give Michael Pittman that money. Michael Pittment bigger.
Speaker 3: I real to get t Higgins that money. Tiggins might
Speaker 3: get too much money, he might be out. But offensive
Speaker 3: lineman and defensive linemen ain't no ifs what with these guys.
Speaker 3: You get what you paid for. You can get a
Speaker 3: donov A Smith from Kansas City. You can get whatever
Speaker 3: you want. You can find in free agents. But like
Speaker 3: they say, you don't want to spend all of your
Speaker 3: money in free agent because we do got that period
Speaker 3: after the draft where a lot of veterans get let
Speaker 3: go host draft and you can get them for better deals.
Speaker 3: So I one of those people. Give me big boys,
Speaker 3: give me big boys, because I think this is where
Speaker 3: we got to build this team at Trich.
Speaker 4: Well also you're right, well, also you also can get
Speaker 4: guys that's just going to solidify those different position groups,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you know, not necessarily
Speaker 4: always big boys. You can get a corner or safe.
Speaker 4: You can keep it safety that we have Cam Curb,
Speaker 4: bring Cam Curb back, I think, but then bringing the
Speaker 4: Cale Doug or bringing us Stephan Gilmore as corner. Somebody
Speaker 4: who's a veteran if you're not gonna keep you know,
Speaker 4: your boy fuller, you know what I mean. So stuff
Speaker 4: like that, I think it's great to put key guys,
Speaker 4: veteran guys in those positions too, because now you're getting
Speaker 4: leaders for that core for that position group, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then you can say, Okay.
Speaker 4: I can get one or two guys, the baking guys
Speaker 4: you call it the offensive line defensive line wise, and
Speaker 4: then I can build a draft out with a lot
Speaker 4: of the guys who has a higher ceiling. He's gonna
Speaker 4: probably be be here a longer time, expensive and be
Speaker 4: here longer, you know what I mean. So it's either
Speaker 4: or have you want to do it? But like I
Speaker 4: feel like it's no rhyme or reason to it. I
Speaker 4: just feel like you gotta know what you get and
Speaker 4: how you're trying to wait, what you're trying to accompliss
Speaker 4: this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, year one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: With all this cap space, with all these you know,
Speaker 4: this capital awarded to you, where you're trying to go
Speaker 4: with this team, are you trying to say, Okay, we
Speaker 4: already said we recalibrating. We're not trying to rebuild. So
Speaker 4: when we recalibate, do we recalibrate with more veteran leadership
Speaker 4: in the free agency or we go get those guys
Speaker 4: who younger, who's going to be able to play right now?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know most of those guys coming in ready.
Speaker 4: So you want to know, can we go get one
Speaker 4: of two or three guys that we don't have to
Speaker 4: pay that much for that can play right now and
Speaker 4: change that whole position?
Speaker 3: Well, guess what everybody gonna say, pass rush lost both
Speaker 3: our pass rushers?
Speaker 2: You not have one or two guys already here?
Speaker 3: Well, you do got kJ hearing guys like that, But
Speaker 3: you know, do we talking about a different defensive coordinator
Speaker 3: might got a.
Speaker 2: Different whole thing the way he do things?
Speaker 3: Bring up we might go in from an even front
Speaker 3: to an odd front.
Speaker 2: This is everything. And then you.
Speaker 3: Got guys like like Josh Allen from the jag Jaguars
Speaker 3: from the pass.
Speaker 1: Rush at franchise take but here it's a free agents.
Speaker 3: The Brian Burns from Carolina who they probably won't resign
Speaker 3: him because they they rock bottom round you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 3: Guys, the Neil Hunter another guy like so you got
Speaker 3: to exk yourself how much do we allocate to the
Speaker 3: pass rush?
Speaker 2: How do how much do we allocate to protection? Them?
Speaker 2: Matter two things. Protection and pass rush is what I
Speaker 2: care about.
Speaker 1: And I think just based on Adam's history, Dan's history,
Speaker 1: you know, former D line coach, I think he does
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of value and defensive line. But
Speaker 1: just to kind of give some context about what you need, right, obviously,
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel is a free agent, right, you need kind
Speaker 1: of a contributing third wide receiver. This wide receiver class
Speaker 1: extremely deep I can get right, right, So maybe you
Speaker 1: don't need to maybe save some money there. Right, You
Speaker 1: got Kendall Fuller start, so you need a starting corner,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So maybe a guy develops from
Speaker 1: within like you're saying, or you gotta I think you
Speaker 1: probably gotta pay somebody in that way.
Speaker 2: You still got saying juice on the contract. You got
Speaker 2: your first.
Speaker 4: Round in that you try you need a veteran to
Speaker 4: lead those guys. Juice ain't ready to lead those now
Speaker 4: you verbally not ready to lead. And that's why I
Speaker 4: think you.
Speaker 2: Got to look full of bago you bringing that a
Speaker 2: guy like I just.
Speaker 3: Spoke, Are you put take in with a great a
Speaker 3: new safety, got safety from Buffalo or something like that
Speaker 3: that you bring into a room to protect those corners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you need a starting safety. And so
Speaker 1: Kyle Duggar is a name of him that's out there.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get about fifty five years this year, right,
Speaker 1: A lot of money to be allocated there. It just
Speaker 1: seems like that's a weak thing in the draft class
Speaker 1: this year. So Antonio Gibson third down back. A lot
Speaker 1: of those guys in the draft class probably not gonna
Speaker 1: pay that guy. Swing tackle Cornelius Lucas. But then I
Speaker 1: think the other starters you need is you need two.
Speaker 1: You need a starting middle linebacker because Cody Barton is
Speaker 1: a free agent, right, so does someone develop internally? I
Speaker 1: feel like you need to go get somebody or the draft.
Speaker 1: But drafting linebackers is tough because it takes them three
Speaker 1: or four years to.
Speaker 2: Really get rolled and need a head busting wigs blitter yep.
Speaker 1: And then you need two, two starting caliber defensive ends.
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying the salard for one of those
Speaker 1: guys gonna be about seven million dollars. So you could
Speaker 1: draft an edge and maybe you sign one, right, I
Speaker 1: think you try to resign both Casey and James. I
Speaker 1: think that's important just for depth, because think about it,
Speaker 1: you need about eight guys to play that.
Speaker 3: Can you not go get a guy? And luckily we
Speaker 3: got this working with us with the.
Speaker 2: Line back of market. It's not a market.
Speaker 3: It's similar to the safety market where you're not just
Speaker 3: paying these guys two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: So I can go to the top of the class.
Speaker 1: Like what was that last year or two years ago
Speaker 1: where Chicago paid the guy from Buffalo. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was like eighty MILLI yeah, it was a lot of money.
Speaker 1: So if you're not the top guy to your point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think I can go. I can do
Speaker 3: a deal with a Patrick McQueen.
Speaker 2: And that's a plug and play chair.
Speaker 3: A player has played play off ball, they bring something
Speaker 3: to the til.
Speaker 1: Who's the guy from from Tampa Bay, Devin White? So
Speaker 1: I looked up his number. We're looking at like ten
Speaker 1: and a half eleven million dollars. It's it's a lot
Speaker 1: of money. But again, like you got to take that
Speaker 1: from someplace else if you're gonna take.
Speaker 3: Them from Cody Barton, which he was giving him his
Speaker 3: two now I'm paying him eight that's a hell of
Speaker 3: an upgrade.
Speaker 1: And Cody was making three and a half last year,
Speaker 1: just yeah, six and a half. Yeah, So that's a
Speaker 1: good point. And also so then you got depth pieces
Speaker 1: back up quarterback, linebackers, you know, those types of guys
Speaker 1: that fill out rookies would be perfect for that. And
Speaker 1: then you just starting kicker. And the salary for starting
Speaker 1: kickers about five million dollars. So those are all things
Speaker 1: that are on the shopping list that kick.
Speaker 2: Here's a free agent, kick him in a Joey slash.
Speaker 1: So I think there's I think what I come out
Speaker 1: of this exercise thinking about is you got to be smart.
Speaker 1: You got to say where's the talent and free agency
Speaker 1: because we probably need some dresher depth. So we go
Speaker 1: go in there linebacker. I think it's a good spot
Speaker 1: because someone else has broken that guy in. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Someone else is.
Speaker 2: Basically the two guys I want McQueen White.
Speaker 1: I think, And I think Queen would be a little
Speaker 1: bit more than White because he was awesome this last
Speaker 1: year in Baltimore. I think he's probably in that twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars year range. But there's value there to
Speaker 1: your defense, especially you know a guy like dan Quin
Speaker 1: who understands the value linebacker. But then like receivers, running
Speaker 1: backs pretty deep for the areas we need. So it's
Speaker 1: about allocating that that stuff there. The other thing I
Speaker 1: want to ask you about is benefits of drafting a
Speaker 1: quarterback for the free agent market, for the salary cap.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh you got years. They have a really
Speaker 2: cheap let's be honest.
Speaker 4: Three they have, they have a cop Yeah yeah, come off,
Speaker 4: if you're draft them, think about this.
Speaker 2: And I know y'all gonna lose your mind.
Speaker 3: Dallas might have to pay Dak Prescott fifty.
Speaker 2: Five million a year. Do y'all understand that they know
Speaker 2: who he is?
Speaker 3: They know what he is, but they tell you it's
Speaker 3: just like a quarterback can't hold you hostage because it's
Speaker 3: just not a lot.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 3: I have watched Kirk Cousin. He's my favorite account of
Speaker 3: in the league.
Speaker 2: I have Listen.
Speaker 3: I have watched Kirk Cousin know his value regardless of
Speaker 3: what everybody say to him.
Speaker 2: He understands his value.
Speaker 3: So getting a quarterback that you're probably gonna play five
Speaker 3: years fifty million?
Speaker 2: Right with Ricky the top three.
Speaker 3: You got him and you get to see is he
Speaker 3: your guy for the future? And he allows you to
Speaker 3: overpay a number one receiver like we had with Terry.
Speaker 3: He allows you to get a tight end if that's
Speaker 3: what you need. He allows you to find protection for
Speaker 3: him and get pieces around him before you have to
Speaker 3: pay him.
Speaker 1: We talked about on the Ticket to the Draft podcast,
Speaker 1: basically saying that the best player in the draft, best
Speaker 1: evaluation is Marvin Harrison Junior. Would you take him over
Speaker 1: a quarterback because he could? But for me, the answer
Speaker 1: is probably not. Again the impact of now that quarterback
Speaker 1: in place already, Yeah you would, right, But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like the value to Freend's point, the value of getting
Speaker 1: a quarterback on a rookie deal for five years is
Speaker 1: way more valuable than a receiving a received deal because
Speaker 1: it allows you, like, look what I think san Fran
Speaker 1: you you mentioned this, I think, right or Tanny is
Speaker 1: the best team? Right, was saying that we.
Speaker 3: Were talking about it earlier. Yeah, the best team was
Speaker 3: San Fran. The best players with San Fran. The best
Speaker 3: team was Kansas City because they had the best player.
Speaker 1: And the reason they're able to do that is because
Speaker 1: they got a quarterback on a rookie deal, they can
Speaker 1: go out and sign the hard grave. Then everybody right,
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that you look at and
Speaker 1: you say, oh, all right, that's a good way to
Speaker 1: kind of build the team, build the roster. Last question,
Speaker 1: real quick, any free agents specifically you'd like to see.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the linebackers, tan, any receivers you'd like to see,
Speaker 1: Any running backs, any anybody? You're like, man, this name.
Speaker 4: You know, y'all talk to me about offense, and I'm
Speaker 4: always looking at the opposite side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want.
Speaker 4: That veteran corner. You're not going to bring full back
Speaker 4: I want. I want Gilmore. I think Gilmore played in
Speaker 4: his defense. He's gonna be He's gonna be on the blocks.
Speaker 4: Go ahead and go get him, bring him. Leadership is
Speaker 4: gonna go through the roof. That's if you're not bringing
Speaker 4: back Fuller. Now I'm a big fan of Fuller, so
Speaker 4: he if you're gonna bring back Fuller, then we got
Speaker 4: that leadership again. But just from a guy who knows
Speaker 4: his offense, I mean knows his defense. Well, you know,
Speaker 4: the coaching staff both with and and your man Quinn
Speaker 4: knows what they're gonna get out of him and what
Speaker 4: he's gonna do to that room. I would bring a
Speaker 4: guy like Gilmore in without even thinking about it, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Bring him in.
Speaker 2: He just makes your room that much better.
Speaker 4: And you have a couple of guys who I think
Speaker 4: that's gonna be deveilup is having that guy.
Speaker 3: So I want to make sure that when I got
Speaker 3: this young quarterback by defensive staff so they can carry
Speaker 3: us through some tight games and some losses.
Speaker 2: And for me to do that, I need to go
Speaker 2: get ug and play guys.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be afraid to offer Brian Burns to
Speaker 3: see where he's at. I think he's a legit pass
Speaker 3: rusher who just starting to scratch the surface.
Speaker 2: McQueen and White will be like, I might want to
Speaker 2: get to them before I get the pass rushing.
Speaker 3: That's how bad I want a middle linebacker, like I
Speaker 3: think the middle linebacker. Look at the teams that were
Speaker 3: the last Pro team in the playoffs, they all had
Speaker 3: great middle linebackers, Like they all have great middle linebackers,
Speaker 3: but nobody want to get a middle linebacker the props
Speaker 3: that he used to get. So McQueen and Devin White
Speaker 3: out of guys I'm trying to get, and now I
Speaker 3: can get Brian Burns. I got me at least one
Speaker 3: pass rusher with those two big boys in the middle.
Speaker 3: Solidified my d line right there off of my linebackers.
Speaker 3: When I got McQueen and I set him next to
Speaker 3: Jamie Davis, solidified. Now I still got my first round
Speaker 3: people from last year. I still got Saint Juice.
Speaker 2: Hopefully, I still got Cam Curroll.
Speaker 3: Now you're talking about add them to the delectables veterans
Speaker 3: to defensive backfield and all.
Speaker 2: You know, now we got a defense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so just to give you some numbers, that
Speaker 1: that defensive end Burns deal is probably about twenty million dollars,
Speaker 1: the linebacker Queen is probably fifteen million. Yeah, safety is
Speaker 1: probably fifteen corners. So we're getting a little pricey there
Speaker 1: on that side of the football, because think about it,
Speaker 1: that's about sixty million bucks.
Speaker 3: You remember what I did in the draft early, I
Speaker 3: drafted what I'll fit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I drafted tight end.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, and that's the what's the
Speaker 1: ticket of the Draft podcast? Yes, yes, and it's coming
Speaker 1: out on Friday. So Fred has some good insight there
Speaker 1: all right, So this segment, which is called love Letters,
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Speaker 1: is love letters, guys, and it's Valentine's Day. We have
Speaker 1: been very romantic. We talked a little bit about, you know,
Speaker 1: we money. Valentine's not a romantic thing. Talked about the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl saying we talked about it snubbed, which I
Speaker 1: guess is kind of a romantic thing. Right. Put, So
Speaker 1: this is a love letter to anybody, Yes, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna do my love letter to the fans. Okay,
Speaker 2: first of all, I guess she read my love letter.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, fans, thank y'all for being
Speaker 3: with us through the dark times. And me and Santana
Speaker 3: had a lot to do with those times. So did
Speaker 3: Logan and y'all was still there. I remember going to
Speaker 3: Fedexen it was still crunked. No matter what it was
Speaker 3: from wed and six, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2: Y'all showed up. And this is what love.
Speaker 3: The true test of love is what are you gonna
Speaker 3: do when things are not going good?
Speaker 2: But this is what I want y'all to do.
Speaker 3: Fans, I want you all to break y'all love with
Speaker 3: the past because it's all about the new in the future.
Speaker 3: Now we're new ownership, new head coach. We're got to
Speaker 3: have a new quarterback, new new, new new. So don't
Speaker 3: bring that bad energy, don't bring that cloud from years ago,
Speaker 3: don't bring that cloud from old football team. Don't bring
Speaker 3: none of it. Let's turn this page and let's make
Speaker 3: this relationship better. It's finally time for us to beat
Speaker 3: the couple that everybody looking at. It's my time for
Speaker 3: us to be chilling and everybody want to be Tramp
Speaker 3: and tay Tate.
Speaker 1: We need to be that.
Speaker 2: We need to be that. So all I'm saying, Fan,
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 1: There we go. That's very nic like that. Fred, that's
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 4: Valentine, mine's gonna be so so short and sweet. Let's
Speaker 4: gonna get right to the point. This is for the
Speaker 4: fans too.
Speaker 1: Look at r and.
Speaker 4: Give it to roses are red, violins are blue. There fans,
Speaker 4: y'all so so much love for eighty nine. I guess
Speaker 4: what eighty nine loves you.
Speaker 2: Talks is a blue And we used to be name Red,
Speaker 2: my name Fred.
Speaker 1: That's ridding. So yes, this fans. Obviously, we're very grateful
Speaker 1: the fans of this show specifically, and we love you
Speaker 1: guys very much all the support you give. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say my love letter to you guys. It is
Speaker 1: so fun doing this show with you guys every single week.
Speaker 1: And Fred Fred are always busting my balls, but I
Speaker 1: love it. It makes me laugh and Tanna, you've taught
Speaker 1: me how to be cool. And I think about those shoes.
Speaker 1: I wore those shoes out the other day. You buy me.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, man, you got some swag, dude. I
Speaker 1: was like, just because of these guys, so we didn't.
Speaker 2: We got you, Jay Walk, We got you all over
Speaker 2: the place.
Speaker 1: I'm turning into a new man hanging out with you guys,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: The next thing we're gonna do now that we got
Speaker 3: your shoes, we gotta change of clothes, Like we're gonna
Speaker 3: change your clothes now.
Speaker 2: Red is good O Mamitanda. But we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to take you shopping one day.
Speaker 3: Maybe Yeah, food, Rhino, I've been wigged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were looking for shirts, they got any shirts
Speaker 2: and wigged son.
Speaker 1: All right, I think that's gonna do it for today's show.
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