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Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we talk

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Speaker 1: hall of Fame, Hall of Shame. There we go, that's it,

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Speaker 1: and we got Patrick Mahomes and he the Goat kind

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Speaker 1: of feels that way. And we talked about some nerdy

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Speaker 1: cap space stuff, free agency, draft, how to build a team.

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Speaker 1: And love is in the air. Guys. We got love

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Speaker 1: letters to you and to these guys. Maybe check it out.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 1: with Santana Moss and Fred Smooth.

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Speaker 2: I'm the cupid.

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Speaker 1: Is it's Valentine's I.

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Speaker 2: Come and spread up now.

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Speaker 3: I don't really like the holiday because I think it's

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Speaker 3: about commerce, and if you love your mate, I actually

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Speaker 3: love you the three hundred and sixty four other days, right,

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Speaker 3: not just one day to show my love. So I

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Speaker 3: am you know, I'm with it. I play alone, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think I is one of the holidays that

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Speaker 3: I really get involved in. No chocolate, the balloons.

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Speaker 4: But I think all the holidays about commerce, it's about money.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a couple of days in there.

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Speaker 2: Who can celebrate whatever day.

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Speaker 4: But I'm thinking you think about it, the way they

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Speaker 4: set up these things it's about them making some kind

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Speaker 4: of it's about about making money, yeah, most definitely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Easter is that way same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't just put Easter into money making to

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Speaker 2: think about.

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Speaker 1: Are there any rabbits with half yea all?

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Speaker 2: Where did that come to think about?

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Speaker 4: When you it's Christmas time and they already putting up

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Speaker 4: hards in the grocery store talking about about the time

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Speaker 4: dating around the cone.

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Speaker 3: On the next comers you got new, you got New

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Speaker 3: years after the is a comer's day, but then you

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Speaker 3: got the fourth for July. I think there's comers. I

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Speaker 3: think there's more about bringing people together.

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Speaker 1: Memoir of your day.

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Speaker 2: It might have been bad food, you like your birthday,

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Speaker 2: not like the other day.

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Speaker 1: Also, I wanted to ask you something real quick because

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Speaker 1: Tanna was talking about this and I think this is

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Speaker 1: I know we're getting a little sidetrack, Chason, that's my bat,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta asked this question. Yeah, as we were

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Speaker 1: talking about the Hall of Fame thing, you guys are

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Speaker 1: talking about Devin Hester. Yeah, Tanna, I want to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Devin Huster thing because it's it's

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Speaker 1: really insightful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was all I was all for one, you know,

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Speaker 4: universal guy right universe in Miam connections there, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, you know, sooner or lady, he's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer just the numbers wise, but I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't look into the numbers yea.

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Speaker 4: And it was a friend of mine that just was

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Speaker 4: kind of like pissed about other guys. Yeah, And he

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Speaker 4: asked me weeks ago about some of the guys special teams,

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Speaker 4: why who I thought should be in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: and I, you know, I always bring up Being Mitch. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and he said, okay, Tanner, you like B Mitch and

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Speaker 4: this particular guy likes B Mitch. Now go look up

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Speaker 4: BE Mitch's numbers. And I looked up those numbers and

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh.

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Speaker 2: They're not even comparable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is incomparable? Because I think.

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Speaker 3: His second to Jerry Rice and just all purpose.

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Speaker 1: That is a that's crazy crazy.

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Speaker 4: So when you look at be Mitch has like nineteen

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Speaker 4: thousand yards and then like everybody else is like just they.

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Speaker 2: Never it's never gonna be pixed hundred. It's never like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Really, But just to get back to the Devin Hester thing, Look,

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Speaker 4: I'm one of those guys, when you do what you do,

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Speaker 4: you deserve to be, you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Deserve to have He was like he was like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 4: But the thing I would say about it just knowing that, yes,

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Speaker 4: he's in there now, it's it's opening the doors for

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Speaker 4: a lot of other guys that now have the opportunity

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Speaker 4: because it's the numbers game.

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Speaker 2: We've been heard that is for a long time. It's

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Speaker 2: the numbers game.

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Speaker 4: You talking about receiving, talking about dB, talking about tight

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Speaker 2: But one of the things that stood out to me

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Speaker 4: They have been was beating everybody in touchdowns and when

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Speaker 4: you look up the numbers, he's nowhere near a lot

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Speaker 2: It's about ten pros yards. Yes, yeah, yah, that's what

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Speaker 4: But when you really look at the thing, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: Talking talking about like Cordell Patterson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of guys.

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Speaker 4: I just I was blown away to hear the numbers

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Speaker 4: from other guys like Cordell Patterson has ten kick returns

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Speaker 4: for touchdown, six of them over one hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous, Like that is hard to do, you understand.

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Speaker 4: And Devin Hester had more collective touch shutdowns. But when

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Speaker 4: it came into yards, everybody else was in front of them.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, wow, he's in there.

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Speaker 3: I think they are taken into account. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people kicked away from him, especially, said.

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Speaker 2: That's the first thing I said.

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Speaker 4: I said, yeah, but you gotta think and that's more

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Speaker 4: part return wise, But I said, too, I think the

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Speaker 2: Did things, yeah, kind of gave him a knot.

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Speaker 4: And what we talked about, it's a notoriety type of

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Speaker 4: thing too, so popularity contest. So if guys there speak

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Speaker 4: about me and I did it in the biggest game,

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Speaker 4: then that gives me more of a nod. But then

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Speaker 4: we go back to the star Wark and lynz One.

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Speaker 4: Star Wark let the league, let the team and receiving

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Speaker 4: yards every year and had more yards.

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Speaker 2: Than linz One. Lyn Swan went in that way before

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Speaker 2: star Wark and beating with the big plays. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: was always in the Super Bowl game.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about Devin Hester, but I really wanted

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Speaker 1: was really interesting when you were talking about that.

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Speaker 2: Bring the elephant in the room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about our guy in London?

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Speaker 3: First of all, willis Mississippi old mintor old Miss, high

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Speaker 3: character guy, one of the best linebackers of his generation.

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Speaker 2: No, he's an old miss Rebels.

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Speaker 1: Oh Miss said yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: This dude should not be in there before London Fletcher.

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Speaker 3: This way, I think is all wrong. I can't say

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Speaker 3: how candy sports writers vote on Hall of Fame. Why

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Speaker 3: I know old Hall of famers would not leave be

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Speaker 3: Mitch in London Fletcher out. They got too much respect

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Speaker 3: for London played double the Tide, won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: and did all his numbers compared to ray Lewis.

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Speaker 2: What do ray lewis? I just saying be Mitch numbers

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Speaker 2: compared to Jerry Roth. What are you thinking? But that

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Speaker 4: It's like one of the things that we say it's

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Speaker 4: a popularity thing. And then goes back to what Dion

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Speaker 4: alluded to. If you're gonna put guys in there that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: who deserve to be there, then the guys who more

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Speaker 4: layers and the different tiersot Hall of Good shouldn't be

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Speaker 4: just everybody we made it.

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Speaker 2: It should be like now this his first first team

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Speaker 4: Now you have to break it up in LA And

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Speaker 4: I think when it's getting to the point that where

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Speaker 4: now it seems like it's a free for all.

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Speaker 2: Now everyone is getting numbers.

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Speaker 3: You know if you if you a fantasy football darling,

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Speaker 3: you're getting in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think like to think about like

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Speaker 1: the one thing I will say about Devin Hester and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Willis is Patrick Willis was like the linebacker of

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Speaker 1: his era and then Hester was like his his return

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Speaker 1: there was a little bit different element there. But I

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Speaker 1: think you guys bring up great points like the consistency

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Speaker 1: that Fletcher played with, the consistency that be Mitch played with.

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Speaker 1: Like there's value.

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Speaker 2: And they got championship rings. You can't say they don't

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Speaker 4: Be Missss a guy that was used heavenly in the

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Speaker 4: offense and with making plays in office. He just wanted

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Speaker 4: back there coming in and he was coming in on

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Speaker 3: Started the third down back all right, So yeah, did

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Speaker 3: you leave your touch on the game? Yes, I did

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Speaker 3: by the return game, by the third down beat and

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Speaker 3: catching the ball out the backfield, so yes they did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I think it just raised the eyebrow.

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Speaker 1: Like a little different.

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Speaker 1: All right, So obviously Hall of Fame was a big thing.

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Speaker 1: We kind of talked about that real quick. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: another big thing, man, was the Super Bowl game.

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Speaker 3: Ayah.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna open it up to like high

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Speaker 2: You can start there. I love to start it off.

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Speaker 2: It was a good game, yeah, a good game.

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Speaker 4: It's everything, But it was a point in the game,

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Speaker 4: and having their spirit. I was like, I'm loving this

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Speaker 4: right now, but San France has to score. Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: you distill a one possession game. And with the other

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Speaker 4: guy who was that quarterback knowing him, I say, man,

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Speaker 4: the second half he go, they go, they're gonna get

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Speaker 2: To me. I think that was just like the was

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Speaker 4: It was the it was like there it is, yeah

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Speaker 3: Because they went three and out and when they punished

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Speaker 3: And that's what that's that's Patrick Mahomes is one of

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's no point that I think we

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Speaker 2: Can I play it on here?

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to play it, bro because it would

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Speaker 4: it bothered me because I was rooting for forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: And then we then we had to choose, and I

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Speaker 1: It's after we talked that, I was talking to people

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Speaker 1: but I can't, like in good conscious pick against Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes because he's he's like such a unique player man,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's off offense elevates Brock pretty Mahomes elevates Kansas

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Speaker 3: It different than all he watered through there for twenty

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Speaker 1: This over win is already time. You got it.

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Speaker 4: It's ready, Jason, you know, and do what you do

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Speaker 4: after this. But I know, I'm just letting you know,

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Speaker 4: But this is how I feel outter the game is over,

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Speaker 4: because I just was in disbelief, like, wow, man, they

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Speaker 4: keep them them, keep Andy Reid and my homes together. Man,

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Speaker 4: I don't matter who the team, what they record during

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Speaker 3: Them, dude, they still knew the game.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Let me let me speak on this.

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Speaker 2: You look, you sound like you heard what you say.

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Speaker 1: They cut off, cut the up.

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Speaker 4: It might not make it, but because it was too much,

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Speaker 4: what I was saying. Basically, what I was saying was

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Speaker 2: Bro, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 4: That Kansas City defense has matured in the last few looked.

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Speaker 2: They one of the best defensive.

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Speaker 4: It was key plays that you can point out that

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Speaker 2: This play a lockdown.

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Speaker 4: But what I wanted to say about Andy Reid and

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Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes won.

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Speaker 2: Pat took over that game.

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Speaker 4: He showed what Cam been talking about when it comes

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Speaker 2: A game changer.

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Speaker 4: Because Mahomes did that. He said on fourth and third

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Speaker 4: I'm running, yeah, I'm taking off. And he did it,

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Speaker 4: and he did it time and time again. He showed

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Speaker 4: it's not hard. It ain't I can't make the decision

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Speaker 2: And Andy Reid has come up with the same stuff.

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Speaker 4: And the reason he we we ran four weeks ago, dude,

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Speaker 1: But it's crazy, like, because we talked about this on

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Speaker 1: Tickets to the Draft podcast you're on there right, We

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Speaker 1: easier because when you watch Kansas City's offense, it's not

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Speaker 2: They not whooping with your peing out the time.

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Speaker 1: They do a good job, but it's like it's him.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy man, He's the playmaker. And so yeah,

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Speaker 1: for me, it's like is he the goat? It kind

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Speaker 1: of feels like he's welling his way, you know what

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Speaker 2: It tastes like goat milk. It's probably goat milk. He's

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Speaker 2: on his way. He drinks goat man. We can talk

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Speaker 3: And I knew the game was over when Jermaine the

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Speaker 3: he had had time when he had on them, Yo, Hunt,

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Speaker 3: I knew it when you say this is Kansas City

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Speaker 3: Game two win right there? And I hate the rubbing

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Speaker 3: then because I know y'all Shanahan Knights. I know y'all

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Speaker 3: Shanahan Knights. To today I was yet again, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Boy, was yet so close but yet so far away?

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Speaker 2: That hurts, right, Let's.

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Speaker 1: Talk about that a little bit. So overtime. So the

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Speaker 1: overtime thing, right, Overtime rules for the Super Bowl, yes,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at it. I wasn't mad at day.

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Speaker 4: Can I say I didn't know the rules either? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I know I had changed them ang time.

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Speaker 2: They changed them after the Kansas City Again, I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't and I guess too because I've been away

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Speaker 2: I knew it over time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Tony roh want them start to talk about

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Speaker 2: Like, hey, the rules are not the same.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny because for whatever reason, on the TV

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Speaker 1: I was, I was just watching on normal cable and

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Speaker 2: You had a phil Model TV.

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Speaker 1: The commercials are in English, the game is in Spanish,

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Speaker 1: my god, and then sometimes the sideline report is in English.

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Speaker 1: So obviously I don't understand you wacked.

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Speaker 2: The game and Taco be No.

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Speaker 1: I was at U's house and I was like, what

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Speaker 1: are we watching those? And we couldn't fix it. So

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Speaker 3: So you basically watched us just seeing in span but.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's in English. So I didn't get the rules.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure it out as I'm watching.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking on my phone. But okay, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that I want to say about the

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Speaker 1: I think you need to have the urgency to score

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Speaker 1: a touchdo on regardless because your guy Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk about it. I

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Speaker 2: I was gonna I was gonna say, I feel you

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Speaker 4: But then who's to say, don't score the three points,

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, who to say our defense

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Speaker 4: you know, because they basically had him, had him in

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take off.

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Speaker 1: But I think the other thing that gives you is

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Speaker 1: go down, We're gonna score a touchdown, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go for two. The thing that if you score a

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Speaker 1: going for every four done.

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Speaker 2: Macau took cal credit credit.

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Speaker 4: He was he expected them to score and he won't

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Speaker 4: get into the third and you know the.

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Speaker 2: Third time, that's the sudden depth rooms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I mean, look, bro, at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day. Damn if you do, Damn if

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Speaker 4: you don't, there we go. Yeah, I looked at it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the man, they played the phenomenal game, and

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Speaker 4: that's the thing. And I'm like, bro, like, who's to

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Speaker 4: say they was going to score? Who's to say that

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Speaker 4: them three points weren't gonna be all they needed? But

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Speaker 4: it was just one of those games to where Mahomes

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Speaker 4: just put itself on that ghost that is like, he goes,

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Speaker 4: y'all want to see MJ.

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Speaker 2: That's how MJ takeover games football football. Jason to Jay,

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Speaker 2: did I not say that the score was gonna be

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Speaker 2: He said it was gonna be a field goal game.

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Speaker 2: Called it.

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Speaker 3: I called it the numbers that I called I was

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Speaker 1: I know I was with if you guys listen to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl predictions, go back and check that out.

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Speaker 1: Leave it in the comments. We're in fact checking Fred.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for helping us remember seventeen. We never

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Speaker 2: Seventeen, Kansas City is what I say. You said something

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what it was, but I know, we

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Speaker 4: and I was like, twenty eight seventeen saning Frian. But bro,

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Speaker 4: it was one of the games that I can say

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Speaker 4: I truly enjoyed. I enjoyed watching every.

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Speaker 2: Viewed Super Bowl of all time.

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Speaker 3: They say plus seven percent, they say swis percent.

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Speaker 2: Swift this. How y'all feel about this?

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Speaker 1: I love it? Man. Like I saw something on Instagram

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Speaker 1: the other day that I thought was that I thought

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Speaker 3: All I'm saying is I enjoy it. I don't care

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Speaker 4: end of the day, man, it's one of those games

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Speaker 4: But I'm just talking about far as even if you

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Speaker 1: Helm. Okay, so free agency is coming up, yes, And

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans have been asking me, oh, we

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Speaker 1: got all this salary cap. We got the most salary

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Speaker 1: cap in the NFL. Right, yeah, And I just thought

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Speaker 1: today and Jason thought today would be a good day

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Speaker 1: to talk about the salary.

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Speaker 2: Let's spend some money.

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Speaker 1: Let's spend some money, Let's spend a lot of people

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Speaker 1: say that, but I don't think people understand like what's.

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Speaker 2: Going on, and it's up to us to explain it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to read some numbers. Right, So the commanders,

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Speaker 1: right now, we have seventy three million dollars seventy three

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Speaker 1: point six million dollars in cap space. Effective cap space,

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Speaker 1: which is a different number, is twenty sixty teen point five. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Compare that to the Titans. The Titans have sixty five

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Speaker 1: point seven, so they have more effective cap space.

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Speaker 2: So why is that because they got less of a

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Speaker 2: rasta than we do.

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Speaker 1: They actually have more guys.

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Speaker 2: Physically on the roster. But I'm saying, hi, end guy, right,

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Speaker 2: we got So.

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Speaker 1: What's going on here is your cap space number is

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Speaker 1: correlated to total rosters. They ask to be fifty one

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Speaker 1: guys on the roster for your total cap space number

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Speaker 1: to be working. Right now, this effective cap space number

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Speaker 1: doesn't apply to the commanders because they're anticipating we need

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Speaker 1: to sign six guys because we only have forty five,

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Speaker 1: only forty five guys on the roster right of last

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Speaker 1: year's roster, Twenty six of those guys are free agents, right,

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Speaker 1: so that number is going to come down on right.

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Speaker 2: Drafted half a team, you can make a whole.

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Speaker 1: Team, drastic, you get to make a whole team, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So we got a lot of people that need to

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Speaker 1: come back. So I've heard a lot of fans. Jason's

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Speaker 1: dad was telling me this the other day. You've got

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Speaker 1: to get after I got to sign everybody signed to

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Speaker 1: all the best free agents. So I just went online

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Speaker 1: last night because I'm a nerd. You know. It was

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Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock. I almost sexed. I almost texted Fred

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Speaker 1: free what you do? But I did because Fred was

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Speaker 1: going to make fun of me, So I didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: So I texted Jason as set basically what I did is.

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Speaker 1: I went through and I resigned all the free agent

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Speaker 1: on our team, all to all twenty six guys, like

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Speaker 1: just resigned them to rosters. So like, so Cam Camp, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fourteen point seven million dollar contract was what they

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Speaker 1: online and kind of anticipated was gonna get Kendall Fuller

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Speaker 1: was about fourteen or thirteen point nine. Right, went through,

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Speaker 1: and then I assigned basically like two million dollar value

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Speaker 1: for like Cody Barton just because you need that linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Adam for just the year money.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's that's the annual value of the contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got so worried about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so for Cam as an example, he's probably going

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Speaker 1: to sign something in the realm of like it'll be

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Speaker 1: like fifty forty years, fifty million something like that, right approximate.

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Speaker 1: So I just went down and did that, and I

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Speaker 1: was trying to try to be conservative. And then for

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Speaker 1: the defensive end spot, I said, Genevian clown County signed

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Speaker 1: for seven and a half million last year. If we

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Speaker 1: get a guy like that kind of has a veteran

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Speaker 1: stop gap that d maybe Yeah, So I even did that,

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Speaker 1: But Hassan reddicks cap numbers and just malate a Camp

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Speaker 1: number next year sixty million dollars. So just so I

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Speaker 1: out with. Do you want to guess what it was?

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Speaker 1: Tell me one hundred and seven million dollars. So you

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Speaker 1: open the cap over the cap, just resigning the guys

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Speaker 1: that we had. Now, there's rules here, So let me

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Speaker 1: just explain one really important rule. There's the fifty one

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Speaker 1: man rule in a salary cap, and basically it takes

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Speaker 1: your fifty one top salaries and those are the only

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Speaker 1: numbers that count against the cap. Yeah right, So for example,

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Speaker 1: like if we've had ninety guys on the roster, those

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Speaker 1: bottom forty guys, yeah don't or thirty nine guys, yeah

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Speaker 1: don't count. So training camp word yeah yeah. So but again,

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Speaker 1: so if I sign somebody to a ten million dollar

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Speaker 1: deal and I bump out a two million dollar deal,

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Speaker 1: that two million dollar deal doesn't count against the cap.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't do that, right, And they have other

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Speaker 1: rules or you can get like me, yeah yeah, wiggle room, yeah,

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Speaker 1: wigga room. But there's also guys that like veteran EXEPT

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Speaker 1: contract yeah right, where it's like I'm signing a veteran contract,

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Speaker 1: but he's.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna cout against his cap, correct.

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Speaker 1: So there are ways around some of that stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I just want fans to hear that that if

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Speaker 1: we just resigned the guys that aren't on the team.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole lot of money.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: I want the fan to think about it, like the

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Speaker 3: Uncle Sam just gave you one hundred dollars?

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Speaker 2: How much do you owe Uncle Saint? Right, so you

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Speaker 2: ain't really got one hundred dollars, you understand it. You

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Speaker 2: stay in Nordon, Virginia.

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Speaker 3: You got sixty dollars, like you understand where are you at?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So obviously we can resign. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: the big contracts were Curtis Samuel was eleven million dollars,

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Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller was fourteen, and Cam Curll was fourteen. So

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Speaker 1: there's moves and money to be allocated to big veteran players, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's just about where you want to allocate that money.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I'll ask you guys this, Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: do we effectively allocate this cap money? Like what's the goal?

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Speaker 1: Obviously we got to resign the depth, but after that,

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Speaker 1: where we think we want to put put those resources.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you a question though, two, because

665
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Speaker 4: this is something that I've been pondering and ever since

666
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 4: we was going to brain this up. I was thinking

667
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: about it the other day and I'm gonna ask you

668
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Speaker 4: because I feel like you have a lot of knowledge

669
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Speaker 4: on it.

670
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: If I signed one of those guys, the.

671
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: Kendall Fullers, let's say, you know, let's say Curtis Sammy

672
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: for the eleven million, and I'm actually this because i

673
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: feel like this was done to me a couple of times.

674
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: If my cap hate has worth.

675
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 4: Eleven million, but I'm not giving him that. Who eleven

676
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: that first year.

677
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: They giving me seven? They giving me seven, So some

678
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: of that on the back end if one is count Well.

679
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: The thing about it is the seven become hard cap,

680
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: the risk becomes salary.

681
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the thing.

682
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: So but I'm actioning does it affect my cash?

683
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: So this is the yearly number. So basically what this

684
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: number would include is like signing bonus, so like yours.

685
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: Let's say, let's just take an easy number. So you're signing.

686
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: Your signing bonus is ten million dollars. Yeah, your base

687
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: salaries too, Okay, the total value of that contract for

688
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: two years is what is that fourteen million dollars over

689
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: the two years. The signing bonus, you would get that

690
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: this next year in twenty twenty four, right, Yeah, but

691
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: it gets pro rated over the life of the deal.

692
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: So basically they give you the way the team bills

693
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: it is five million twenty twenty four, five million twenty

694
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: twenty five. So in addition to this effective cap space

695
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: number and money that we need to allocate somewhere, we

696
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: have dead cap, right, which comes from contracts that are

697
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: no longer on the books, but we're still paying salary

698
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: cap to those guys. They're still still paying signing bonus

699
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: for those guys. That makes sense. So that's how they

700
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: proaate the deal. So you see it like another thing

701
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: they could do in terms of restructuring the cap is,

702
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: let's say we've got drawn payin right, we give him

703
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: a signing bonus, we extend the length of his deal,

704
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden his number goes way down,

705
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we have more effective captain.

706
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: I understand all that, but I was actioning the reason

707
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: why I brought that up because this happened to me

708
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: a couple of times, particularly here when I first got here.

709
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: My signing bonus was like, you know, okay, you don't

710
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: want that now, my agent, you don't want that. He's like, bro,

711
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: you don't want all that money now, but that's going

712
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: to be a bigger hit for you two and for

713
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: the team. So we're going to push a lot of

714
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: this through over the year of your contract.

715
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: So what I was action because I didn't look at it.

716
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Then does it affect the cap?

717
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: It does affect the cap, but it can affect differently.

718
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: So let's say, for example, so if that number was

719
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: push and made me get less upfront, do I still

720
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: get hit for the Do we still look.

721
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: At that as eleven million? Or we look at it

722
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: given that three whatever solid chicky is that year?

723
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: That's answer. My question is, so, so it's not going

724
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: to be there unless they.

725
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: Can defer it.

726
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: It's it's it's pro rated.

727
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: It's not deferred.

728
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: It's pro rated, right. So like let's say you got

729
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 1: the ten million dollars right, the ten million dollars check,

730
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: you would get that deferred over here. And so what

731
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: they some people do is they get their salary backloaded

732
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: right to help the team out, because that again, that

733
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: effects So I think who did that? John Allen did

734
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: that right, You probably did it too. You're backloaded contract.

735
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: You still get signing bonus the same amount of the

736
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: course the deal, but your salary is higher in the

737
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: back end because you're.

738
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Speaker 4: You're you're getting that sign of bones with yourself and

739
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: it's guaranteed because they didn't push to correct.

740
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: So that's the one way to do it. But so

741
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: in terms of resources here understanding that kind of really

742
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: complicated landscape positions, you guys think we need to identify

743
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: in this draft in free agency, in the in in

744
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: free agency, and then how does that affect the draft?

745
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Bacon Bacon, Oh, I want bag boys, I want three

746
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: hundred pounds, Like, because you got to ask yourself, free agency,

747
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: what are you getting the free agents? I'm getting somebody

748
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: that already know what they bring in to the table.

749
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: I'm getting somebody. I'm getting you at the probably at

750
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: the peak of your powers right now, and I'm getting

751
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: you to solidify something like I don't go to free

752
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: agents to get ifs. I think that's what we've made

753
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: mistakes at too much. Like for instance, y'all brought it up.

754
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: We signed cart Curtis Samuel. I was then say no

755
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: because I have two guys. I would say I was

756
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: ready to give Michael Pittman that money. Michael Pittment bigger.

757
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: I real to get t Higgins that money. Tiggins might

758
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: get too much money, he might be out. But offensive

759
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: lineman and defensive linemen ain't no ifs what with these guys.

760
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: You get what you paid for. You can get a

761
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: donov A Smith from Kansas City. You can get whatever

762
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: you want. You can find in free agents. But like

763
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: they say, you don't want to spend all of your

764
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: money in free agent because we do got that period

765
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: after the draft where a lot of veterans get let

766
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: go host draft and you can get them for better deals.

767
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: So I one of those people. Give me big boys,

768
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: give me big boys, because I think this is where

769
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: we got to build this team at Trich.

770
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: Well also you're right, well, also you also can get

771
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: guys that's just going to solidify those different position groups,

772
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you know, not necessarily

773
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: always big boys. You can get a corner or safe.

774
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: You can keep it safety that we have Cam Curb,

775
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: bring Cam Curb back, I think, but then bringing the

776
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: Cale Doug or bringing us Stephan Gilmore as corner. Somebody

777
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: who's a veteran if you're not gonna keep you know,

778
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: your boy fuller, you know what I mean. So stuff

779
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: like that, I think it's great to put key guys,

780
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: veteran guys in those positions too, because now you're getting

781
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: leaders for that core for that position group, you know

782
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: what I mean.

783
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: And then you can say, Okay.

784
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: I can get one or two guys, the baking guys

785
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: you call it the offensive line defensive line wise, and

786
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: then I can build a draft out with a lot

787
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: of the guys who has a higher ceiling. He's gonna

788
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: probably be be here a longer time, expensive and be

789
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: here longer, you know what I mean. So it's either

790
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: or have you want to do it? But like I

791
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: feel like it's no rhyme or reason to it. I

792
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: just feel like you gotta know what you get and

793
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: how you're trying to wait, what you're trying to accompliss

794
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: this year?

795
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, year one, you know what I mean.

796
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: With all this cap space, with all these you know,

797
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: this capital awarded to you, where you're trying to go

798
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: with this team, are you trying to say, Okay, we

799
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: already said we recalibrating. We're not trying to rebuild. So

800
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: when we recalibate, do we recalibrate with more veteran leadership

801
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: in the free agency or we go get those guys

802
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: who younger, who's going to be able to play right now?

803
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: Now?

804
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know most of those guys coming in ready.

805
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: So you want to know, can we go get one

806
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: of two or three guys that we don't have to

807
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: pay that much for that can play right now and

808
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: change that whole position?

809
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: Well, guess what everybody gonna say, pass rush lost both

810
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: our pass rushers?

811
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: You not have one or two guys already here?

812
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: Well, you do got kJ hearing guys like that, But

813
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: you know, do we talking about a different defensive coordinator

814
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: might got a.

815
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: Different whole thing the way he do things?

816
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: Bring up we might go in from an even front

817
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: to an odd front.

818
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: This is everything. And then you.

819
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: Got guys like like Josh Allen from the jag Jaguars

820
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: from the pass.

821
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Rush at franchise take but here it's a free agents.

822
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: The Brian Burns from Carolina who they probably won't resign

823
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: him because they they rock bottom round you.

824
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.

825
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: Guys, the Neil Hunter another guy like so you got

826
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: to exk yourself how much do we allocate to the

827
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 3: pass rush?

828
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: How do how much do we allocate to protection? Them?

829
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: Matter two things. Protection and pass rush is what I

830
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: care about.

831
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: And I think just based on Adam's history, Dan's history,

832
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, former D line coach, I think he does

833
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of value and defensive line. But

834
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: just to kind of give some context about what you need, right, obviously,

835
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel is a free agent, right, you need kind

836
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: of a contributing third wide receiver. This wide receiver class

837
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: extremely deep I can get right, right, So maybe you

838
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: don't need to maybe save some money there. Right, You

839
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: got Kendall Fuller start, so you need a starting corner,

840
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So maybe a guy develops from

841
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: within like you're saying, or you gotta I think you

842
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: probably gotta pay somebody in that way.

843
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: You still got saying juice on the contract. You got

844
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: your first.

845
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: Round in that you try you need a veteran to

846
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 4: lead those guys. Juice ain't ready to lead those now

847
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 4: you verbally not ready to lead. And that's why I

848
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: think you.

849
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: Got to look full of bago you bringing that a

850
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: guy like I just.

851
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: Spoke, Are you put take in with a great a

852
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: new safety, got safety from Buffalo or something like that

853
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: that you bring into a room to protect those corners.

854
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you need a starting safety. And so

855
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: Kyle Duggar is a name of him that's out there.

856
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get about fifty five years this year, right,

857
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: A lot of money to be allocated there. It just

858
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: seems like that's a weak thing in the draft class

859
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: this year. So Antonio Gibson third down back. A lot

860
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: of those guys in the draft class probably not gonna

861
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: pay that guy. Swing tackle Cornelius Lucas. But then I

862
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: think the other starters you need is you need two.

863
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: You need a starting middle linebacker because Cody Barton is

864
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: a free agent, right, so does someone develop internally? I

865
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: feel like you need to go get somebody or the draft.

866
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: But drafting linebackers is tough because it takes them three

867
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: or four years to.

868
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 2: Really get rolled and need a head busting wigs blitter yep.

869
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: And then you need two, two starting caliber defensive ends.

870
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying the salard for one of those

871
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: guys gonna be about seven million dollars. So you could

872
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: draft an edge and maybe you sign one, right, I

873
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: think you try to resign both Casey and James. I

874
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: think that's important just for depth, because think about it,

875
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: you need about eight guys to play that.

876
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: Can you not go get a guy? And luckily we

877
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: got this working with us with the.

878
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Line back of market. It's not a market.

879
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: It's similar to the safety market where you're not just

880
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: paying these guys two hundred million dollars.

881
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: So I can go to the top of the class.

882
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Like what was that last year or two years ago

883
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: where Chicago paid the guy from Buffalo. Yeah, and it

884
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: was like eighty MILLI yeah, it was a lot of money.

885
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: So if you're not the top guy to your point.

886
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think I can go. I can do

887
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: a deal with a Patrick McQueen.

888
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: And that's a plug and play chair.

889
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: A player has played play off ball, they bring something

890
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: to the til.

891
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: Who's the guy from from Tampa Bay, Devin White? So

892
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: I looked up his number. We're looking at like ten

893
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: and a half eleven million dollars. It's it's a lot

894
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: of money. But again, like you got to take that

895
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: from someplace else if you're gonna take.

896
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: Them from Cody Barton, which he was giving him his

897
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: two now I'm paying him eight that's a hell of

898
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 3: an upgrade.

899
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: And Cody was making three and a half last year,

900
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: just yeah, six and a half. Yeah, So that's a

901
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: good point. And also so then you got depth pieces

902
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: back up quarterback, linebackers, you know, those types of guys

903
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: that fill out rookies would be perfect for that. And

904
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: then you just starting kicker. And the salary for starting

905
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: kickers about five million dollars. So those are all things

906
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: that are on the shopping list that kick.

907
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: Here's a free agent, kick him in a Joey slash.

908
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: So I think there's I think what I come out

909
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: of this exercise thinking about is you got to be smart.

910
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: You got to say where's the talent and free agency

911
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: because we probably need some dresher depth. So we go

912
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: go in there linebacker. I think it's a good spot

913
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: because someone else has broken that guy in. You know

914
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Someone else is.

915
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Basically the two guys I want McQueen White.

916
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I think, And I think Queen would be a little

917
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: bit more than White because he was awesome this last

918
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: year in Baltimore. I think he's probably in that twelve

919
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars year range. But there's value there to

920
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: your defense, especially you know a guy like dan Quin

921
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: who understands the value linebacker. But then like receivers, running

922
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: backs pretty deep for the areas we need. So it's

923
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: about allocating that that stuff there. The other thing I

924
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: want to ask you about is benefits of drafting a

925
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: quarterback for the free agent market, for the salary cap.

926
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh you got years. They have a really

927
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: cheap let's be honest.

928
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 4: Three they have, they have a cop Yeah yeah, come off,

929
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 4: if you're draft them, think about this.

930
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: And I know y'all gonna lose your mind.

931
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: Dallas might have to pay Dak Prescott fifty.

932
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: Five million a year. Do y'all understand that they know

933
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: who he is?

934
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: They know what he is, but they tell you it's

935
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: just like a quarterback can't hold you hostage because it's

936
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: just not a lot.

937
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: Listen.

938
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: I have watched Kirk Cousin. He's my favorite account of

939
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: in the league.

940
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 2: I have Listen.

941
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: I have watched Kirk Cousin know his value regardless of

942
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: what everybody say to him.

943
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: He understands his value.

944
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: So getting a quarterback that you're probably gonna play five

945
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: years fifty million?

946
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: Right with Ricky the top three.

947
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: You got him and you get to see is he

948
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: your guy for the future? And he allows you to

949
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: overpay a number one receiver like we had with Terry.

950
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: He allows you to get a tight end if that's

951
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: what you need. He allows you to find protection for

952
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: him and get pieces around him before you have to

953
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: pay him.

954
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: We talked about on the Ticket to the Draft podcast,

955
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: basically saying that the best player in the draft, best

956
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: evaluation is Marvin Harrison Junior. Would you take him over

957
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback because he could? But for me, the answer

958
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: is probably not. Again the impact of now that quarterback

959
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: in place already, Yeah you would, right, But I'm saying,

960
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: like the value to Freend's point, the value of getting

961
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback on a rookie deal for five years is

962
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: way more valuable than a receiving a received deal because

963
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: it allows you, like, look what I think san Fran

964
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: you you mentioned this, I think, right or Tanny is

965
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: the best team? Right, was saying that we.

966
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: Were talking about it earlier. Yeah, the best team was

967
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: San Fran. The best players with San Fran. The best

968
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: team was Kansas City because they had the best player.

969
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: And the reason they're able to do that is because

970
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: they got a quarterback on a rookie deal, they can

971
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: go out and sign the hard grave. Then everybody right,

972
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that you look at and

973
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: you say, oh, all right, that's a good way to

974
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: kind of build the team, build the roster. Last question,

975
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: real quick, any free agents specifically you'd like to see.

976
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: You mentioned the linebackers, tan, any receivers you'd like to see,

977
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Any running backs, any anybody? You're like, man, this name.

978
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: You know, y'all talk to me about offense, and I'm

979
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 4: always looking at the opposite side.

980
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want.

981
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: That veteran corner. You're not going to bring full back

982
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: I want. I want Gilmore. I think Gilmore played in

983
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: his defense. He's gonna be He's gonna be on the blocks.

984
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: Go ahead and go get him, bring him. Leadership is

985
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: gonna go through the roof. That's if you're not bringing

986
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: back Fuller. Now I'm a big fan of Fuller, so

987
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 4: he if you're gonna bring back Fuller, then we got

988
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 4: that leadership again. But just from a guy who knows

989
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 4: his offense, I mean knows his defense. Well, you know,

990
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 4: the coaching staff both with and and your man Quinn

991
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: knows what they're gonna get out of him and what

992
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: he's gonna do to that room. I would bring a

993
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: guy like Gilmore in without even thinking about it, you

994
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Bring him in.

995
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 2: He just makes your room that much better.

996
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 4: And you have a couple of guys who I think

997
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 4: that's gonna be deveilup is having that guy.

998
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: So I want to make sure that when I got

999
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: this young quarterback by defensive staff so they can carry

1000
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: us through some tight games and some losses.

1001
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: And for me to do that, I need to go

1002
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: get ug and play guys.

1003
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't be afraid to offer Brian Burns to

1004
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: see where he's at. I think he's a legit pass

1005
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: rusher who just starting to scratch the surface.

1006
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: McQueen and White will be like, I might want to

1007
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: get to them before I get the pass rushing.

1008
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: That's how bad I want a middle linebacker, like I

1009
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: think the middle linebacker. Look at the teams that were

1010
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: the last Pro team in the playoffs, they all had

1011
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: great middle linebackers, Like they all have great middle linebackers,

1012
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: but nobody want to get a middle linebacker the props

1013
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: that he used to get. So McQueen and Devin White

1014
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: out of guys I'm trying to get, and now I

1015
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: can get Brian Burns. I got me at least one

1016
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: pass rusher with those two big boys in the middle.

1017
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: Solidified my d line right there off of my linebackers.

1018
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: When I got McQueen and I set him next to

1019
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: Jamie Davis, solidified. Now I still got my first round

1020
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: people from last year. I still got Saint Juice.

1021
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: Hopefully, I still got Cam Curroll.

1022
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: Now you're talking about add them to the delectables veterans

1023
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: to defensive backfield and all.

1024
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: You know, now we got a defense. Yeah.

1025
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so just to give you some numbers, that

1026
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: that defensive end Burns deal is probably about twenty million dollars,

1027
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: the linebacker Queen is probably fifteen million. Yeah, safety is

1028
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: probably fifteen corners. So we're getting a little pricey there

1029
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: on that side of the football, because think about it,

1030
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: that's about sixty million bucks.

1031
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: You remember what I did in the draft early, I

1032
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: drafted what I'll fit.

1033
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I drafted tight end.

1034
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, and that's the what's the

1035
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: ticket of the Draft podcast? Yes, yes, and it's coming

1036
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: out on Friday. So Fred has some good insight there

1037
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: all right, So this segment, which is called love Letters,

1038
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,400
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1039
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1040
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Speaker 1: visit NWFCU dot org slash Washington today. Okay, so this

1044
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: is love letters, guys, and it's Valentine's Day. We have

1045
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: been very romantic. We talked a little bit about, you know,

1046
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: we money. Valentine's not a romantic thing. Talked about the

1047
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl saying we talked about it snubbed, which I

1048
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: guess is kind of a romantic thing. Right. Put, So

1049
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: this is a love letter to anybody, Yes, right.

1050
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna do my love letter to the fans. Okay,

1051
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: first of all, I guess she read my love letter.

1052
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: I just want to say, fans, thank y'all for being

1053
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: with us through the dark times. And me and Santana

1054
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: had a lot to do with those times. So did

1055
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: Logan and y'all was still there. I remember going to

1056
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: Fedexen it was still crunked. No matter what it was

1057
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: from wed and six, it didn't matter.

1058
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: Y'all showed up. And this is what love.

1059
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: The true test of love is what are you gonna

1060
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: do when things are not going good?

1061
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: But this is what I want y'all to do.

1062
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: Fans, I want you all to break y'all love with

1063
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: the past because it's all about the new in the future.

1064
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: Now we're new ownership, new head coach. We're got to

1065
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: have a new quarterback, new new, new new. So don't

1066
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: bring that bad energy, don't bring that cloud from years ago,

1067
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: don't bring that cloud from old football team. Don't bring

1068
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: none of it. Let's turn this page and let's make

1069
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: this relationship better. It's finally time for us to beat

1070
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: the couple that everybody looking at. It's my time for

1071
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: us to be chilling and everybody want to be Tramp

1072
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: and tay Tate.

1073
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: We need to be that.

1074
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: We need to be that. So all I'm saying, Fan,

1075
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: I love you.

1076
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: There we go. That's very nic like that. Fred, that's

1077
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: pretty good.

1078
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: Valentine, mine's gonna be so so short and sweet. Let's

1079
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: gonna get right to the point. This is for the

1080
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: fans too.

1081
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Look at r and.

1082
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: Give it to roses are red, violins are blue. There fans,

1083
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 4: y'all so so much love for eighty nine. I guess

1084
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: what eighty nine loves you.

1085
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: Talks is a blue And we used to be name Red,

1086
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: my name Fred.

1087
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: That's ridding. So yes, this fans. Obviously, we're very grateful

1088
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: the fans of this show specifically, and we love you

1089
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: guys very much all the support you give. But I'm

1090
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna say my love letter to you guys. It is

1091
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: so fun doing this show with you guys every single week.

1092
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: And Fred Fred are always busting my balls, but I

1093
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: love it. It makes me laugh and Tanna, you've taught

1094
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: me how to be cool. And I think about those shoes.

1095
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: I wore those shoes out the other day. You buy me.

1096
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: It's almost like, man, you got some swag, dude. I

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