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Speaker 1: A different voice now, an important voice. Ceci, I love

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Speaker 1: he totally. I'll get that right. Help me here. Lisa Israeli,

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Speaker 1: Ambassador of the United Kingdom, joins us this morning in

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Speaker 1: her busy schedule as well ambassador. Six years ago, in

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Speaker 1: the conversation of the politics of Israel in the United States,

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Speaker 1: you spoke about Jews in America leading convenient lives. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a brilliant comment of the distance of

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Speaker 1: Israel from Judaism in America. Speaking of convenient lives in America,

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Speaker 1: are our convenient lives? Have they been shattered?

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Speaker 2: I think in a way every Jew in the world,

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Speaker 2: his life's being shattered after what happened in the last

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours in Israel. I want to tell you

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Speaker 2: from a personal stories because for me, I've been in

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Speaker 2: Israel when the war started, and my husband and my

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Speaker 2: two daughters are still in Israel. I just received my

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Speaker 2: daughter's in a shelter at the moment because Tel Aviv

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Speaker 2: is under a rockets attack at the moment as we speak,

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Speaker 2: and this is horrendous. We've never seen anything like that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm speaking as someone who has experienced. I was

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Speaker 2: part of the Israeli government I've seen terror attacks in

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Speaker 2: my life, and I must say this is unprecedented, the

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Speaker 2: way Hamas barbarically acted against children, against young women. We're

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Speaker 2: speaking here about war crimes being committed by Hamas in

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Speaker 2: the last forty eight hours. The Israelis and the international

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Speaker 2: community are exposed to those I don't even have the

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Speaker 2: words to explain. How about those atrocities are and the

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Speaker 2: videos on social media that I'm sure you've seen some

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Speaker 2: of it. I've just seen the latest of a young

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Speaker 2: Israeli child walking in Gaza and Palestinian children are beating

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Speaker 2: them up. Those are things, I mean think about. It

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Speaker 2: reminds us dark times in the Jewish history, and this

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Speaker 2: is our obligation, our first obligation to fight back and

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Speaker 2: to make sure Hamas will never have the ability to

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Speaker 2: act against Israelis.

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Speaker 3: Ambassado Tovly, how are you responding to the fact that

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Speaker 3: this is really creating a whole host of tensions around

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Speaker 3: the world that have become sort of ethnically focused on

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Speaker 3: both sides. It really has erupted debates and protests and

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Speaker 3: anger on both sides. How would you like to angle

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Speaker 3: the conversation to be able to foster something more productive.

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Speaker 2: I think that this is time to fight and to

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Speaker 2: defend the people of Israel. And I think whoever saw

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Speaker 2: the fact that a thousand Israelis were killed in cold

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Speaker 2: blood cannot speak now about both sides. There is one

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Speaker 2: side here. Who's the side that wants freedom, democracy, cares

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Speaker 2: about human rights, cares about people's life, which is the

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Speaker 2: Israeli side. And there is the other side. This is

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Speaker 2: good versus evil. This is so clear here that we

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Speaker 2: are fighting in one of Israel's darkest moments. We are

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Speaker 2: fighting evil that the world haven't seen since the Second

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Speaker 2: World War, and we need to fight it. It's a

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Speaker 2: terror organization recognized in the US and in the UK.

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Speaker 2: And you know, many people are comparing to nine to eleven,

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Speaker 2: and I heard many people that are making the equivalent

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Speaker 2: numbers with the proportion. When you think about Israel as

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Speaker 2: a tiny country, just nine million people, it's actually ten

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Speaker 2: times of nine to eleven. And the disaster that the

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Speaker 2: country is experiencing, this is something that any country in

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Speaker 2: the world should support Israel. Now we've seen Israeli flags

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Speaker 2: here in London. We saw the British Parliament colors itself

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Speaker 2: in blue and white. We saw number ten Downing Street

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Speaker 2: with a huge Israeli flag projected on. This is the

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Speaker 2: time to support Israel. The international community should understand that

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Speaker 2: if Israel is not protected, then the whole Western civilization

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Speaker 2: is not protected, because those horrible things backed by Iran

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Speaker 2: can happen everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Ambassador, totally, what do you make of some of the

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Speaker 3: reports of Qatar, of the United Arab Emirates of Egypt

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Speaker 3: even acting as some sort of intermediary to negotiate hostage releases.

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Speaker 2: Hostage release is a very very important mission at the moment.

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Speaker 2: We call again Hamas to release every single individual, children, women,

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Speaker 2: elderly women that were kidnapped by Hamas. Some of them

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Speaker 2: were tortured, and we've seen horrible, horrible again videos and

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Speaker 2: images that are coming from Gaza, and they are committing

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Speaker 2: those war crimes and the world must stop them to

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Speaker 2: commit those war crimes. They need to release the people

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Speaker 2: being kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: Ambassador, your politics is clearly to the right. That is

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Speaker 1: the way it is established within the Israeli media and

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Speaker 1: of course in the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: Let me help you with that. I'm ambassador. According to

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Speaker 2: the Israeli system, when you become a diplomat.

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Speaker 1: You represent understand me.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't follow at the moment, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Israeli politics as a politicians, I don't understand representing Israel.

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Speaker 1: In bessors talking to our Stuart Wallace about this news

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Speaker 1: of a coalition or combined government within Israel that is

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Speaker 1: in your wheelhouse. Can that be successful? And how will

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Speaker 1: a combination of Israeli politics be successful in prosecuting this war.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, it's clear both to the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister and to the leaders of opposition that there was

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Speaker 2: never bigger necessity for unity government in Israel than at

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Speaker 2: this moment. And I speak on behalf ever Israeli Israelis

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Speaker 2: are united now. Israeli's fight together, shoulder to shoulder. We

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Speaker 2: see so many gestures coming from Israelis want to support

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Speaker 2: our soldiers, want to support the people that need help

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Speaker 2: at the moment in Israel, that are in the front line.

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Speaker 2: So they want to see the same reflection in our politics.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure that the unity government will happen and

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Speaker 2: it will be the reality. I hope sooner sooner the better.

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Speaker 1: The ambassador the Arab community speaks to different sets or

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Speaker 1: different cohorts of Palestinians, can the Arab nations assist Israel

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Speaker 1: in speaking the Palestine away from Hamas.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is not something new. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a process being going on over a generation. And

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Speaker 2: in the last few years, as you know, there were

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Speaker 2: dramatic breakthroughs between Israel and our world with the Abraham Accords,

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Speaker 2: with the ongoing negotiation with Saudi. So we are in

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Speaker 2: times where our world wants to be close to Israel

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Speaker 2: and the Middle East is changing. Unfortunately, this radical ideology

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Speaker 2: that Hamas is leading based on isis mentality, this jihadi ideology.

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Speaker 2: The look at Hamas charter, look at what they want

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Speaker 2: to do. They want to kill basically every single Jew.

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Speaker 2: They don't recognize the right of Israel to exist. So

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Speaker 2: when this is Hamas ideology, this is ideology must be fight.

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Speaker 2: You can't negotiate with these people, you can't have peace

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Speaker 2: with Hamas. You need to fight back because they started

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Speaker 2: this war and Israel will win this war.

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Speaker 3: Ambassador totally. What do you make of some of the

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Speaker 3: discussion around Iran, and there's been a lot of dancing around.

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Speaker 3: You know that they have backed Hamas, but that they

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Speaker 3: weren't necessarily directly involved in executing it or orchestrating it.

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Speaker 3: How important is that going to be the determination of

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Speaker 3: that to determine the next step for the Israeli government.

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously Iran is involved, and obviously Iran is the

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Speaker 2: big brain behind activating its proxies. But at the moment

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Speaker 2: we have this war to win. The war against Iran

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Speaker 2: is something bigger than that. But the international community should

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Speaker 2: know the real face of Iran and its proxies through

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Speaker 2: those atrocities that Hamas committed in Israeli innocent people, including

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Speaker 2: children and elderly. I just can I say something, just

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Speaker 2: because my country is now in a point where a thousand,

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Speaker 2: almost a thousand funerals are going to take place in

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Speaker 2: the coming few days. This is a number we've never

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Speaker 2: seen in our lifetime in one day. The President said

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Speaker 2: yesterday that since the Holocaust, we never experienced a reality

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Speaker 2: where so many Jews were killed in one day. And

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at those stories. The Times has in the

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Speaker 2: front page, the ked and family, Jonathan and Tamal, They're

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Speaker 2: beautiful twins, their son, they were all murdered in one day.

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Speaker 2: Think about those families that were destroyed because of this

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Speaker 2: barbaric attack. I think this is the day to mourn

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Speaker 2: with the Israelis that lost their dear ones, they loved ones,

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Speaker 2: those those children being executed in front of their parents.

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Speaker 2: Those are days to support Israel, and I think this

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Speaker 2: is why I'm coming here to speak to you and

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Speaker 2: all the people that care about the future Western civilization.

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Speaker 2: Israel as in the frontline of this Western civilization, surrounded

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Speaker 2: by very radical people, and we need to fight back

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Speaker 2: and we need the world support in this very justified war.

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Speaker 1: Ambassador, thank you so much for joining Bloomberg today. Ambassador Hotelity,

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Speaker 1: Israeli Ambassador to the United Kingdom, and our Queen Victoria

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