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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 3>These are our stories, done done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, that's messed up. An SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lee as a Trigger and I'm Kara Klank And

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<v Speaker 1>every week it's SVU recaps, it's true crime deep dives,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's interviews with fascinating guests. And we're on swapped

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<v Speaker 1>coasts today. You're on the West and I'm on the East.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean I'm coming off of a dream situation

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<v Speaker 2>from Lahoya.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks everyone. That club is fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really fun club. They don't serve food. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like awesome. People are just drinking and having some popcorn

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<v Speaker 2>and it does and everyone's just rich and hot and

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<v Speaker 2>tan and cool and athletic, so they're like ready to giggle.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of the show's been great things for everyone that came. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for my heated rivalry themed gifts obviously, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know this week was they're back. They're back to

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<v Speaker 2>working on season two. So to those who celebrate and

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<v Speaker 2>to your family's congratulations, Okay, So this guy, Josh Ocean

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas opened for me and he's from La Joya, like

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<v Speaker 2>his family has lived there since nineteen fourteen. Whoa so,

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<v Speaker 2>and his summer job was doing the kayak tours and

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<v Speaker 2>he's a surfer and he goes to the beach every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. His dad lives like a beach bum on

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<v Speaker 2>the surf shacks. So anyways, I was in the caves.

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<v Speaker 2>I was next to sea lions. It's pop season. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw baby seals, I saw pelicans. I stood in the

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<v Speaker 2>water as a leopard shark swam around us.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I could not believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was just like an alpha male sea lion floating

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<v Speaker 2>next to a kayak. They call him Bruce, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just could not believe it. I could not believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was about to go did you see

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<v Speaker 1>the sea lions? And then you went right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You really got up close and perstal.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Yeah, So we were in the caves.

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<v Speaker 2>They like go up on the rocks during high tide

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of lounge there all day.

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<v Speaker 4>So wait, are you bending their necks in a boat?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you swimming? What are you? Where are you?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm in a kayak we were in a double kayak,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got to go in the water for the

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<v Speaker 2>sharks and in the caves. He let me like jump

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<v Speaker 2>out to which you can't do on official tours. But

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<v Speaker 2>like he's truly like shoeless, driving me around in a

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<v Speaker 2>golf cart everywhere. Like we went to this cool fish market,

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<v Speaker 2>El Pescador, I think it's called or Pesca whatever. It

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<v Speaker 2>was so good I went back the next day alone,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was delicious. Line out the door, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>wait in line. Him and his dad, he's been coming

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<v Speaker 2>there since he was a kid. Everywhere we went like someone.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to this bar called The Shot. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was in an episode of Laguna Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone was just like young fit and like I

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<v Speaker 2>played pool. But the girl when I checked out, she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you the industry discounts, since you know Josh

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent off everything, Like everywhere we went, no lines,

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<v Speaker 2>no nothing, He's driving me around in a golf cart.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I couldn't believe it. I was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's gonna want you to open.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the last night he had, you know, plans

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<v Speaker 2>with his own friends. He's like so much younger than me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was He's like, I'll give you one more

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<v Speaker 2>scenic route on the golf cart before I drop you off.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, thank you, that is what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>And we went and it's like all the seals and

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<v Speaker 2>sea lions sleep on shore because of sharks, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I saw hundreds of them and hundreds of these like

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<v Speaker 2>little birds sleeping straight up. But then like the sea

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<v Speaker 2>lions hit the sidewalks and the walking paths because only

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<v Speaker 2>one alpha male can like sleep there at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>One had cones around him, so like We're walking on

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<v Speaker 2>the sidewalk, and I'm like, am I imagining things? Are

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<v Speaker 2>those sea lions up there? And they're just like lounging

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<v Speaker 2>where they're Like I couldn't. I couldn't. I was truly crying.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I also went to the Museum of Contemporary

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<v Speaker 2>Art here, which Alicia Keys and Swiss Beats just purchased

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<v Speaker 2>and like made you know, a huge and like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot bigger. But there Brooklyn. They did a

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<v Speaker 2>show in Brooklyn called Giants and it's their personal collection

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<v Speaker 2>and I happened to be here on the last day

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<v Speaker 2>of the exhibit and it was a free day, like

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<v Speaker 2>the second Sundays are free days. So I got to

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<v Speaker 2>see the most incredible collection. I cried twice, bought a book,

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<v Speaker 2>found new artists, like took amazing photos and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just awesome. Yeah, Derek Adams my new favorite. And then

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<v Speaker 2>this guy from Botswana. There was a Nina Chanelle Abne.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously Amy shared and like it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was nuts. It was nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really and you see the ocean like from

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<v Speaker 2>the museum and so that's like really cool. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been so great. I would say, la Joia, amazing, Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a lot to live up to. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be in Cleveland this weekend, so please step it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be there. Oh my god, I hope the woman

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<v Speaker 2>the suit, Oh my god, I should DM them. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>the fudge that we were gifted when we were in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Yes, the candy there that was so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. It was Friedo's cover. They asked dark

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<v Speaker 2>for milk. I'm glad we said milk and it was

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<v Speaker 2>milk chocolate covered fucking Freedo's.

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<v Speaker 4>They were so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to DM them. I have to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go, Susan L. Chocolates here. Yes, I'm dming

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<v Speaker 2>right now. You coming, Yeah, amazing, get in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Natasha Beddingfield and oh god, yes, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to the listener. I ran into Abby.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a one Tommy at the golf course in Vermont,

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<v Speaker 1>which was not expected, but it was really fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have anything. I don't really have anything specific

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<v Speaker 1>to report about it. It was just like fun. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>living their millennial dreams with Natasha Beddingfield singing her hits.

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<v Speaker 1>She opened with the song that she sings with Sean Kingston,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an interesting choice because obviously Sean Kingston was

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<v Speaker 1>not there. But it was really fun. I had a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another concert happening like tomorrow. It's the Revivalists.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're like, are you like more folky? I

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<v Speaker 1>might because my kids kind of like it. But Jared's

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<v Speaker 1>a real stickler on the kids getting to bed on time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to be like fun summer mom and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like not letting it happen, and it's really annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Rosie did yesterday feel really run down and

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<v Speaker 1>had to take a nap. Which she never does, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I am to blame for making her party too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But their cousins are here right now with my sister

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<v Speaker 1>in law, My parents are here, my sister's here with

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<v Speaker 1>her husband. It's like a whole family affair here in

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<v Speaker 1>Vermont right now. But then everybody leaves tomorrow going to

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<v Speaker 1>Burlington for part of the day. I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in like Champlaine, and I'm so excited because it's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's beautiful. Yeah, And I was told about

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean. There's only like one week in the summer

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<v Speaker 2>where the ocean is warm and calm, and I happened.

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<v Speaker 4>To be there in Laoya. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I swam in San Diego, the San Diego area

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<v Speaker 1>one time where it was warm, but it was like

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<v Speaker 1>the beach was like a bay, so it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of not like full ocean waves. Took my kids to

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island a couple of weeks ago. Weekends ago, Rhode Islands.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you do any Did you go to pizza Mama?

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to, but I had my kids and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like visiting my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a quick trip. It was like we got

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<v Speaker 4>there late Friday and we left. On Sunday, we went

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<v Speaker 4>to the zoo. They had a.

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<v Speaker 1>Copy barra, huge, huge for as I would say right now,

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<v Speaker 1>copy Barras with children are like you know how there

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<v Speaker 1>is always like it used to be sloths, like around

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<v Speaker 1>one Rosy was born, sloths were like everything. Then it

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<v Speaker 1>became axe Lotel's because of my and.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say unicorns, but those are maybe consistent and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not real.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, yeah, there was definite a unicorn moment.

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<v Speaker 1>No unicorns are massive, obviously Oscar has a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>unicorns stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But so they're still strong. Yes, there always are. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're right. I don't think they go away.

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<v Speaker 1>But kapybaras are like there was some kapy bara shit

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<v Speaker 1>at the book fair last year and it went like

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<v Speaker 1>people were psychotic about the kopy barra. So to see one,

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<v Speaker 1>I had never seen one, I thought we I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to go to like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what zoos had them in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>So we went to a cute zoo there.

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<v Speaker 2>We still they're like the popular guys, like even alligators

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<v Speaker 2>aren't eating them, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeay're just like chill. Everyone loves them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we saw that zoo in Rhode Island is cute,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like it's popping in the summer, because then

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have to put a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>animals away in the winter. But so sad, you'll you'll

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<v Speaker 1>love slash hate this. We got to go watch an

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<v Speaker 1>elephant get bathed and it was so cute and it's

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<v Speaker 1>so bonded to its owners. But then they were telling

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<v Speaker 1>us that in two years, the elephants are going they're leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to like an elephant preserve in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 4>Because elephants are super their.

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<v Speaker 1>Packs like they're supposed to be in packs, and if

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<v Speaker 1>there's only like three of them at a zoo and

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<v Speaker 1>then one dies, it's like very sad and depressing for

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<v Speaker 1>the elephants, and so they try to keep them in

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<v Speaker 1>bigger packs at these reserves. And so my friend who's

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<v Speaker 1>with us shout out to my friend Sarah who's come

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<v Speaker 1>to thats messed up shows and like yelled things out

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<v Speaker 1>because she like can't help herself and is like a heckler.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, are you like going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to visit them when they go to Tennessee? And the

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<v Speaker 1>handlers were like, no, We're devastated, like no humans are

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to go see them, Like they will have.

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<v Speaker 4>New handlers there or whatever, but like no one is

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<v Speaker 4>allowed there.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't be open to the public, they won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be seen by which we were like.

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<v Speaker 4>Wondering, why can't they have a play day? Like what

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<v Speaker 4>is up?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm like a kid, sir, you can't let

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<v Speaker 1>them go see their old handlers that are like their

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<v Speaker 1>best friends. Like I don't know, but I was really

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<v Speaker 1>sad to hear that. And you could see the handler

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<v Speaker 1>that told us was like devastated. She was so upset.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not happening for like a year or so,

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<v Speaker 1>but ugh, it was so sad.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I met the snobs whyds. Maybe it has

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<v Speaker 1>to do something with like their psychology and like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>remind them.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like they like being friends with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the other thing is is that these elephants come

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<v Speaker 1>in every day and get washed in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>crowd of people, and they do all their little commands and.

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<v Speaker 4>They're so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>They like lift up a foot, lift up the other foot,

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<v Speaker 1>like they get little treats. And we were wondering because

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was with my friend and her girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>who works with animals in like a nature preserve and

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<v Speaker 1>a nature center in Connecticut, and they were like, I wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>She was saying, it's likely that the elephants are going

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<v Speaker 1>to miss people like they're gonna miss like being around

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<v Speaker 1>as many humans. If they're used to seeing so many

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<v Speaker 1>humans all the time and doing their little bath show

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<v Speaker 1>that they might be sad now that they're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of living elephant life.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, maybe they like that. Oh I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I don't know how to I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But we saw like there was a lot of great

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<v Speaker 1>animals there that we saw a cheetah, we saw.

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<v Speaker 4>A oh my god. I also had another animal encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw on Insta, but my

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<v Speaker 2>friend Marsha and I stopped into her bodega and there

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<v Speaker 2>were two baby kittens, and so we sat down with

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<v Speaker 2>some like non binary Bushwick people and the six of

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<v Speaker 2>us just had the time of our lives.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so cute with a couple of fresh kittens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>The animals are just such a joy, Yeah, such a joy.

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<v Speaker 2>When when is the countdown for you guys getting a pet.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's rapidly approaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I told them when they were

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and nine and Rosie's seven, so it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like three or four years we're coming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that close, but it feels close because we

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<v Speaker 2>started this at seven years and it felt like yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>we started saying in seven years, you can get a dog,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we're at four, like and a half or

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're getting close, So we'll see. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>we're staying with a dog right now. A little pug,

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<v Speaker 1>so funny, and you know, I'm done. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie is allergic to cats, so I think cats are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a no go, not that they were

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<v Speaker 1>ever really on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Market with a pug.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his name is Slash because he has like a

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<v Speaker 1>slash mark on like a like a color of black

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<v Speaker 1>on his tummy, so it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like what is I think his original owners called him Slash.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's really funny and just you know, pugs just

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<v Speaker 1>look like they're like having a nervous breakdown at all times.

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<v Speaker 4>Like he's just so funny and my kids are obsessed

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<v Speaker 4>with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait what Yeah, what else was in the Rhode Island

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<v Speaker 2>zo oh rand.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I originally started talking about Hode Island. It was

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the beach because the waves were kicking

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<v Speaker 1>our asses. My kids were boogie boarding, we were in

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<v Speaker 1>the water getting knocked over. Like the waves were pumpin'

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<v Speaker 1>in Rhode Island. I wanted to do some Rory recon

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't. But I love Alisha and I love

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<v Speaker 1>a Kracka. But some people have been like, when are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys going to weigh in on Rhode Island. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa is not watching, and I'm only like, honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even to the reunion. But the zoo, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of what is that other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that is like a cheetah or a leopard, but it

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<v Speaker 1>has like a different name. Oh my god, jaguar. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you only see it at a zoo. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>like a Lynx. No, I want to say, like a

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<v Speaker 1>cor Volt or something like that, but it's like not

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<v Speaker 1>that anyway. That was panda red pandas. We saw a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of red pandas so cute. Rosy's obsessed with those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The animal I was thinking of is a servile.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never even heard of that. How do you spell

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<v Speaker 4>V a L?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like they look like more like a house cat,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is like a big wild cat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a serval. But we saw. Yeah, it was great.

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<v Speaker 4>It was great. Zebra cats a lot. There's really so

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<v Speaker 4>many animal.

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<v Speaker 1>Pe cox and pea hens just running around rampant. The

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<v Speaker 1>food terrible. The food one star. Sorry Rhode Island zoo awful,

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<v Speaker 1>but also that's a zoo. I'm not there for the food,

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<v Speaker 1>but we did have to eat there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but they but you can at least have like

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<v Speaker 2>a pretzel. That's not bad, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like god, yeah, and like you know, everything costs a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, but it's bad. But yeah, oh when the

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<v Speaker 1>l path goes, you could put them and they were

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<v Speaker 1>so soft. I do the l pacas are just so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like they're wearing mascara. I love them. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have just we have just we're recording more this

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<v Speaker 1>week and then next week I'm in family camp and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm back in LA and the summer adventure is over.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a really cool tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>You've started kept doing it I hope we can keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, you know, Like everyone's like asking me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it so crazy to like travel and your kids

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<v Speaker 1>don't have all their stuff and this and that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, there's honestly something kind of like freeing about,

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<v Speaker 1>like which I'm sure you understand because you leave your

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<v Speaker 1>home all the time. There's something like freeing about, like

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<v Speaker 1>leaving my home for a while, like I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to like deal with how stuff I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>like and it's sort of like doing something new, like

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<v Speaker 1>and my kids are very resilient and we only we

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<v Speaker 1>bring a few art things and they play with what's

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<v Speaker 1>around and it's really not I really like it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fun to do a couple months out of

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<v Speaker 1>the year and then go back to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>routine and life. I'm not like Angelina Jolie or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like putting them in a new school

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<v Speaker 1>every month, But you know, is that what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like a time where her and Brad Pitt

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<v Speaker 1>they were like in like I felt like those kids

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<v Speaker 1>were traveling around and they were attending like six different schools,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like that can't be.

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<v Speaker 4>This is all online stuff. So who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is like all these people homeschooling, they're just

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<v Speaker 2>not teaching their kids how to read because they just

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<v Speaker 2>thought it's something that just happens naturally.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>People that are just like it's like walking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, which is kind of true, like you will

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<v Speaker 1>walk like most people. I would say ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the population just walks eventually, but like reading does

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<v Speaker 1>not work that way, but some people, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just oh well, It's kind of like that Backcammon

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<v Speaker 2>moment I had where it's like the masters let me

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<v Speaker 2>chill and like then would help me after and the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who played the worst of all of them kept

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<v Speaker 2>talking and telling me what to do. And that's like

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel with homeschooling, where it's like, why do

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<v Speaker 2>these idiots think that there should be in charge of education.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this video and it's just a girl I

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<v Speaker 2>being like yeah, and so it's like the history that

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<v Speaker 2>we think is important for them to know and we

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<v Speaker 2>get our worksheets and it's like you have no reverence

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<v Speaker 2>for educators. I like don't understand. I don't understand. It

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<v Speaker 2>is the movie Idiocracy, Like I get it. This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a new idea I'm talking about, but it is just crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>People being like I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been seeing a couple of like stitched videos

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<v Speaker 1>from people like roasting homeschoolers that are like, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of cool because I can kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>make up the curriculum myself, Like that's why kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like this work book. And it's like, why would you

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<v Speaker 1>think you know how to make up a curriculum. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why does Donald Trump think that he knows the vaccine schedule?

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<v Speaker 1>There are people that have studied this for years and centuries.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually terrified what's gonna happen with our food because

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<v Speaker 2>like I think full disease in like a year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half because now it's just the lettuces and the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But like no one's working in science, like everything has

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<v Speaker 2>been defunded. Like I am, I don't, I'm nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then today he talked about how he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>break up these vaccines and change the schedule, and it's so,

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<v Speaker 1>why does the President of the United States have anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the vaccine schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I just like don't, but we have sure

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<v Speaker 2>he's invested in something and wants more. It's all money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's oh yeah, ever he's funneling cash or his friend

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<v Speaker 2>owns something.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a meeting, you know. And the thing is

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<v Speaker 4>is like, you know how like MMR.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like that's like a big one that that crazy

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<v Speaker 1>people think causes vac autism, because at the age that

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<v Speaker 1>autism can start to show itself is the age around

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<v Speaker 1>where you get that. It's like totally coincidental because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get MMR till you're one, and it's measles, momps

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<v Speaker 1>and rebella. They want to separate them, which will do

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing. But when you make people come to more appointments,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that's more time off work. That's more like

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't like shots and you're like putting it off

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<v Speaker 1>and like it's just so crazy and it's gonna I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's just like I know, we always get

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<v Speaker 1>into this, like the damage that this administration is doing

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<v Speaker 1>is just going to take so long.

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<v Speaker 4>To to undo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just hoping we sweep midterms in the fall so

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<v Speaker 1>he can't do any of this shit.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, it's really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Even my mom's is like the vaccine stuff is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so she's finally, oh yeah, maybe sees there's an

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<v Speaker 2>issue with a man who can't read being in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of the free world.

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<v Speaker 4>She's been against that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Although my sister and her husband got here last night

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<v Speaker 1>and I was out of the house for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I later that night, they were like, oh well.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately got into it about trans athletes with mom and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>because who should know better to talk about that than

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<v Speaker 1>a two people who had six children, none of whom

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<v Speaker 1>participated in college athletics, none of whom were at all

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<v Speaker 1>good at sports, Like weigh in, please, everyone needs to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you guys think, and they have, And then

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<v Speaker 1>my brother in lawstar at are kind of like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, arguing with her a little bit about it.

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<v Speaker 4>My Mom's like, well I really don't know enough, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't. You're getting everything from one source. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get into trans athletics. Now, should we start

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<v Speaker 1>get going on today's episode?

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<v Speaker 4>We should?

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<v Speaker 2>I am looking at up my book that I'm reading

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I just want to read it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, get me, get me my pages. It's good

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<v Speaker 2>Pioneer Summer. This is my Soviet love story.

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<v Speaker 1>I love reading, and I need to get back into

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<v Speaker 1>where you are in this like addictive thing where like

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<v Speaker 1>you love like I've been there before, like when I

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<v Speaker 1>finished reading one book once I walked out the door

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<v Speaker 1>and went to the bookstore to buy the sequel like

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be. So but I got to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into that mindset I am. I am reading, but

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<v Speaker 1>not like this.

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<v Speaker 2>So this book is I told you it was like

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<v Speaker 2>banned in the Soviet Union because it's a gay love

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<v Speaker 2>story and it's set in a summer camp in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty six. God, Soviet culture just sucks, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. Communism's the worst. But I'm like enjoying it

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<v Speaker 2>so much. But so I was reading it at a

0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 2>restaurant in Lo and the server goes, what is that?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you reading?

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<v Speaker 2>So I tell him I go, well, it's this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>band book in Russia And he goes, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved band books and I go, well, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like illegal there. They burn they burn the copies. It's

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 2>like you go to jail if you're gay. And he goes, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>sounds fun and walked away. And it's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how to feel about that interaction. But it

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<v Speaker 2>just made me be like I love band books, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, no, it's really fucking not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love band books. Is such a weird thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say there are bad band books. I'm sure, like

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<v Speaker 1>there are good band books and bad band books. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be like I love all band.

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<v Speaker 2>Books, and I go, you know, it's setting like a

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<v Speaker 2>communist camp in eighty six. He's like, sounds fun, walked away.

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<v Speaker 1>You got yourself a real there. I love it, I

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<v Speaker 1>love band books.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever. I don't know. It just really made me.

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<v Speaker 2>It made me laugh. I get his sentiment. It just

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<v Speaker 2>made me laugh in the context of like Russia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Pioneer Summer, Pioneer Summer, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>You do have to at least, like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if it'll be good.

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<v Speaker 2>For everybody though, Like I wonder if I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>extra connected to it because it is translated.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you do have to just make a little

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<v Speaker 1>video where you go through all your titles and then

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<v Speaker 1>just say like ABC, B plus whatever because people are

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<v Speaker 1>asking for your like your like your good reads, your

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<v Speaker 1>list of books, and like, I don't think it exists.

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<v Speaker 2>So just like, uh, because I don't want homework, That's

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<v Speaker 2>what everyone wants out of me. This is what everyone

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<v Speaker 2>does with anything I love in my life. Why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you start an Etsy store? Because I don't want to?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what the video.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a letterbox, get a good Reads. It's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be logging anything. Get out of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>The homework part though, but a front facing video where

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<v Speaker 1>you just go Pioneer Summer A plus this one be

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<v Speaker 1>like you just give a list, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I skip one that it's anxiety. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>like I just want to enjoy my life. And then

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<v Speaker 2>what if I don't read for a few weeks? Then

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like? I don't want to be fucking beholden

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody about the things that I love doing. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? I don't need to check in?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you still doing a Russian? And I'm like I don't, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I am, get out of my life, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to sell anything. I don't want to Sigde Simpson's Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I did watch a new movie though. I did

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<v Speaker 2>watch a movie that probably none of you know about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Dead of Winter. It was on Delta. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Emma Thompson, Judy greerm and the reason I'm saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's Munchaka. Who's the guy we interviewed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Mark Machaka, he's in it. Dead of Winter twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's got like an old and haggard looking Emma

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<v Speaker 1>Emma Thompson on the cover.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you need to call her old weathered.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks she looks like she's been battling the minneap

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota winter.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we would all look like this.

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<v Speaker 2>It is freezing, there is murder. It is suspenseful and scary.

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<v Speaker 2>And I enjoyed watching it on UH on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, all right, maybe I'll watch it on my

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<v Speaker 1>Delta flight home in a week or so.

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<v Speaker 4>Dead of Winter, everyone with Dead of Winter. Okay. It

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<v Speaker 4>made me jealous. I want to be in movies like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like the idea of like physical discomfort while working.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, something like that. Because it's cold. They

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<v Speaker 2>shot somewhere fucking cold, you could tell, says Minnesota Casey.

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Casey's living that Minnesota life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's He's Casey, looks old and Haggard pretty much all

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<v Speaker 1>days of the winter.

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<v Speaker 4>Just kidding Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey appeared on our Patreon recently and people were like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not what I thought Casey looked like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you wanna see what Casey looks like, join

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<v Speaker 1>our patreon at patreon dot com, slash That's messed Up,

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and you can go to you know That's messed Up

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<v Speaker 1>Live dot com has Lisa's links, to Lisa's schedule, to

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>our merch all of that stuff. And if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher, it's August eighteenth. I'll be sharing wish lists

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>on that That's Messed Up Instagram for a couple more

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<v Speaker 1>weeks as school begins, and then don't forget. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are someone who wants to help give to a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of teachers, just go page through our Teacher's Highlight on

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<v Speaker 1>our Instagram and we have the various posts where you

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>can give to people. And also there's a link to

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>a spreadsheet that has all of the people who have

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<v Speaker 1>submitted their all of the tommies who have submitted their

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<v Speaker 1>wish lists.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's help some teachers get their classrooms filled, shall we?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get started, all right today we will

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<v Speaker 2>be doing the episode week seasons episode nine, that's sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>written by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Current showrunner, written by two women, Tara Butters and Michelle Vesikis,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the current showrunner.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, amazing, amazing the air day November thirtieth, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four. This was a nice post Thanksgiving. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I would say one of the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the classics. It would definitely be on a list. It

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<v Speaker 2>would definitely be on a list if there was a list.

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, I think so because one of the

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<v Speaker 1>actors wins an Emmy for this, Yeah, and deservedly so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's four forty seven on a digital clock

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night. The curtains are billowing

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>in the wind. The window is open, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>a slow pan across the room. We hear a woman

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 2>breathing heavy, and then we hear knocks on the door

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<v Speaker 2>and it is Olivia Benson outside, and then we see

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>a woman who's obviously been attacked. She's crying up against

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<v Speaker 2>the corner of the room, not doing well. Olivia says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're here to help you, and your landlord

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<v Speaker 2>gave us the key, but we won't use it if

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you don't want us to. She's incredible at her job,

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<v Speaker 2>and that gets her moving, but she has to crawl.

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<v Speaker 2>So now this woman is crawling across the room to

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<v Speaker 2>answer the door, and Benson is there. So after she

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>opens it, Benson and Stabler enter and she says that

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<v Speaker 2>she needs her chair. So she is a wheelchair person,

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 2>and so Stabler gets the wheelchair, like picks her up

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 2>and lifts her and like gets her in it. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, I'm fine, but obviously something horrific happened. And

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<v Speaker 2>Benson's like, the nine one one operator said that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>the man who attacked you left two hours ago, why

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>did you wait to call? And she, of course says,

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 2>like he told me to wait or he would come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And when she heard the knocking, she was so scared

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>that it was him and that it was some sort

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>of test. So Stabler then says, you know, they always

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>say they come back, but they never do.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would he say that to her? You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not yeah, babe, you could have called right away. You

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>really could have, like, and they do come back sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Like I don't know if the Jennifer Love

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Hewett episode happened yet like, what the fuck behave?

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.719
<v Speaker 2>So Stableerry, Yeah, I just am mad at him. So

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>then two uniform guys come in and go, you gotta

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>listen to this. So then we play like a nine

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 2>one one callum basically a report of a second sexual

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>assault just four flights up, just happened.

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<v Speaker 4>So now it's the credits.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait really quick, did you know that the girl that

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>plays this girl, this victim is Becky Newton and she's

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like a pretty big actor.

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she was on Ugly Betty for a long time.

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't recognize her, and she is currently on The

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Lawyer, which I don't watch, but it's still on.

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And then she's married to another guy who's been on SVU,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>whose name is Christopher Diamontopolis, and he is the guy

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that plays like the psycho billionaire in Silicon Valley. I mean,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of psycho billionaire in Silicon Valley, but

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the one that's like Russ Hanneman, he's like the he's

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>so crazy. If you watch Silicon Valley, he was hilarious

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>on that, And so I just I love a SVU

0:28:58.240 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>power couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's Canadian in way, but who is he in SBU.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing I didn't know because I think he's

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>done a more recent It was like season seventeen or something, and.

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>He was in the Blood of Zeus. Oh, he's in

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the episode called no It All. Dude, he is working.

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I am scrolling down his IMDb. It is like tough

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to fuck him. Get in there.

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like the reputations of the squad, including Barbara, are

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>put on the line when the suspect reveals he knows

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>their intimate secrets and threatens to expose them if chargers

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>against him aren't dropped.

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>The secrets because where they break the rules to like

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>get him, isn't it.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, he's in eighteen, Oh we should get him.

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:41.479
<v Speaker 4>He's like he should be.

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 2>He's he's like I literally put his name in the

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 2>guest like call him or like the featured co star.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, stay tuned, guys. We're we're gonna try to We're gonna.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Try to get him.

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<v Speaker 4>He is hot.

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>But there are a hot couple. I mean I knew

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 2>she was someone famous because she's so pretty. So with that,

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>so now there's a woman holding a baby. They just

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>got back from the airport. Her and this baby, key

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and door and this guy grabbed her from behind and

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>then pushed them inside, and he wouldn't let her turn

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 2>on the lights.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 4>He was behind her the whole time.

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>And then they do the classic back and forth cutting

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>where both women are telling the story and pick up

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>from each other. So then the wheelchair girl, she says

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>that she woke up and he was just sitting at

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the edge of the bed, and she thought that she

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>was dreaming, but then there was a hand over her mouth.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 4>She does not know how he got in.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And then Judah, Cipher and Munch are looking at the

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>lock and basically the lock is broken. It's cheap as fuck,

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>it's shitty landlords like not good. I really love my apartment, okay,

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 2>knock on wood. I mean I have the Manhattan protect

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>her on my window. I have like a full metal day. Like,

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you cannot fucking get in there. Fucking try it. Please don't.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>So he rolled so he rolled her over onto the stomach.

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>She never saw his face, but he smelled like cigarettes, stale,

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a bar. His smell was disgusting, and

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>he made her tell him things. So then it's back

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to the mom. You know, he wanted to hear how

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>good he was, how much. She liked it and she

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>said it, and you know, she's like pissed that she

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 2>even said it, but it felt like he needed it

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to like do it or whatever. But then he still

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>he did not finish, and he got really angry, and

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>then the baby started crying, so she just shut her

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>eyes and then he was gone. So Finn is now

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>on the fire escape stairs trying to see the exit,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>and they have to like print all the railings. Then

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>there's a csu tech. I've never seen her in my life,

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>but I love her and I love her vibe, and

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>she finds a condom wrapper and she's like, hopefully there's

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>some good prints, and then the other girl, the non mom,

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>is like, fuck, he wore gloves, like I don't think

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>you're going to find anything. And then Benson asks, when

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>did he push the wheelchair out of your bedroom? And

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>she said after he had to do one more thing

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to show how helpless I was. So then Benson sits

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>down next to her and explains that they're going to

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>catch this guy because of the info that she gave them,

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's not helpless. She pushes her to think of

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>any more details, and she's like, listen, I don't know him,

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 2>but I think he knows me because he kept saying

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that she wasn't as good as he imagined when he

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>first saw her and thought that she was gonna be

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the one. So that are beautiful foursome we have like Munch,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>iced Tea, Stabler, Benson. They all walk out in the

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>sun is fully up, so that means they did an

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>all nighter on the sea and worked really hard, and

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the guy did two rapes in under an hour. Benson

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 2>thinks that he stalked the first victim. The second one

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>was just an opportunity, but he's on a binge right

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>now and like, you know, because the first girl didn't

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>live up to his expectations, so it's like another chance.

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>And then Stabler's like, there is no perfect girl, you know,

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and Munch goes, well, he's gonna keep fucking trying until

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>he finds one, Like we got to get him. So

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Finn is like, I'm gonna go back to the house

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>and look at viscap and then uh oh, a unicop

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>has news a woman is in the er who has

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>attacked two blocks from this building and it could be

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the same guy. So they run to Saint Catherine's Hospital,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 2>this woman is beat the fuck up, and she's like,

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 2>he didn't rape me. He fucking tried, that's for sure.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 2>He just grabbed her right off the sidewalk, pulled her

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 2>into an alley. She screamed, and she got off work

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>around for something. She works at Polly's tavern, and then

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.479
<v Speaker 2>she started popping him with her crutches. So another person

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that's like, you know, not at full capacity, you know

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like there's a baby, there's a wheelchair,

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and now there's crutches. There's obviously a pattern. But because

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 2>she fought back so hard that she he bashed her

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>head into the wall, and then a man was standing

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 2>over in her suit saying that an ambulance is on

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.239
<v Speaker 2>the way. There's blood on the wall, so hopefully they

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>can get like information on this guy. She has crutches

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>because of her knee surgery. And yeah, Benson's like, did

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you get a good look at him? She goes it

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>was mostly from behind, but I could tell he was

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>white and he smelled like an ash tray.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 4>So definitely the same person.

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>So we're back at the house and Craigan doesn't get

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>why he didn't rape the alley person. So Stabler guesses

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 2>like maybe because she was knocked out, that's not interesting,

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 2>or someone scared him off, like someone saw and he

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>had to get running. So Benson says it must be

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>a new rapist since he's going for women with weaknesses,

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>but Craigan says three and one night, like that's a

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 2>hell of a start, so something is setting him off.

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Finn says that there's unfortunately no DNA and no science

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 2>evidence has hit yet. And if we think somebody scared

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>him during the third victim, so like maybe we find

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>that person, like maybe that person can help us, so

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>much is gonna work on that. And then maybe Colleen,

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>she's the first victim. It was being stalked. Maybe someone

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 2>noticed something. So Benson and Stable are gonna work on that.

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Get her schedule and like go to all the places

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>she goes. So we go to her nail salon. She

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 2>comes in for manny petties once a week. Fancy, I

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 2>feel manicure once a week makes sense, but petticures once

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 2>every two weeks, Like I cannot believe she's doing it,

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>but you know, good for her. Benson asks if someone

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 2>was giving her too much attention lately, and she's like,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>well you know what's sad.

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 4>Everybody stares at the.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Girl in the wheelchair and they're like, okay, but any

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>mail clients that day, like that's who we're really looking for.

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 4>And she goes, oh, yeah, what a mess.

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 2>She says about this guy like he was gross chewed up,

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>like disgusting, dirty hands, and then she grabs Stable and goes,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you bite your nails too, you fucking weirdo. So then

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, she goes white, average wearing sunglasses and then

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 2>they go to the nail at Teck Annie. Annie seemed

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>familiar to me, and it's because she's in a scene

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and one of my favorite movies young adults, so I

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>clapped it right away. She's like in one of the

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 2>early Minneapolis scenes with Charlie's throne and like she had

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, she works shows thirty three credits. She was

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 2>in Like an Agent and The Beast in Me, and

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>was in the movie Sorry Baby from last year.

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 4>Her name is Hetty in Part Yes, and she was

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 4>in Hannibal.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>She's one of the main characters in the early seasons

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 1>at Hannibal, and we talked about how Hannibal is like

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the most unhinged show, like people get murdered in ways

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that are like so insane. This woman in the show,

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and like fast forward if you're like don't want to

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>hear Hannibal spoilers or whatever. The way she finally gets murdered,

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think, I think it's by Hannibal, but it

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>might be by like another murderer that they're trying to find.

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Her body is thin, sliced and then like put on

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>display like she's in the Bodies exhibit, but it looks

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>like almost like you accordioned out her body. Like it's

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's something you could not do to a human body,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>but they like do it on the show. It's that's

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>what I think of when I see this woman.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 4>But she's in I tell this stuff.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Should I watch Hannibal? It's so crazy? But I thought

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>it was great and Barba's in it, and I think

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Matts Michelson is a really great actor. And then the

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>guy who's married to Claar Danes, you Dancy, yeah, and

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you said she's in The Beast in Me, which I

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>really want to watch because I heard it's really good.

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 4>It's the it's c Yeah, but did you have to

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 4>see her fault?

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Because because it was lucky because all her Faults and

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Beasts in Me came out at the same time.

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and I chose all her Faults, okay, and I did.

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Have time for both, and I loved them both, and yeah,

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah.

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 4>I liked it.

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was great. I loved all her Fault.

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I would love to watch bets to me. And then

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>there's another one. I mean to watch Widow's Bay. Widow's Bay.

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's saying is so fucking good. I maybe we should

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 2>watch it for the Patreon. Maybe I'll get AMC Plus

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 2>or what is Apple? What's on Apple? We should watch

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 2>widows Bay. Yeah, that's a good idea. I would do that.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>That would that would get me off, that would get us,

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 2>that would us so well, I don't know if off

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 2>your ass are up back on your ass, yeah, you'd

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 2>be watching it.

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, well, you know what happened is like this summer,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I just got back into I got into Rhode Island.

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I started just watching Rhode Island, and so whenever I

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>had like a little bit of extra time, I was like,

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I just want to watch like mindless Rhode Island. And

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like fine, I don't think you like need to

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>like run to your like Local U Bravo channel. But

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like there's one woman on it that cracks me up.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Her name's Alicia, and there's like super cuts of her.

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 1>She's like, she's like Teresa Judas, if Teresa Judas wasn't

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a bad person, Like she makes all these funny little

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>like malapropisms or whatever, but she's not hateful and awful.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>So for my p Town recap if the who remember

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to mention, So like Lacy who does my

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 2>color and cut like she does my hair, she goes

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 2>to Pizzaown every summer. She has an apartment there, like

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 2>she loves Peetown. So her, her sister Vanessa and then

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 2>her wife Allison came and they came to my cottage

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and did my roots so I would have gray hair

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 2>for Monaco. And they and so they drove. So they

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>went to Pizza Mama. Oh god, yeah, yes.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 4>So they went to Pizza Mama.

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>The woman I'm talking about, the woman that owns Pizza Mama,

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>is really funny and she goes, oh my god, I

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>love like she always says, I love a Cracker. She's

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>got the most insane Rhode Island accent. I love Ara,

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I love a tequila. Oh my god, and then she

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.439
<v Speaker 1>goes Jane's Fonda. I love Jane's Fonda, like talking about

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Jane Fonda, like just why. At one point they try

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to get her to say ghosts with an S at

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the end of it, and she goes ghost and they

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>go yeah but with an S and she goes ghost.

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Why can't I do it?

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 4>It's oh my god.

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Molly Ringwold was unwatched what happens last and Andy asks her, like,

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 2>is there a role you turned down that you regret?

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 4>And she turned down ghost?

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Wait who Molly Ringwold, Wow that idea and she's chill.

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 4>She's like, whatever, it wasn't meant to be into me.

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 4>Did an amazing job.

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 2>But then like and then Andy decided to really spin

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the knife and goes, I mean your whole trajectory of

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>your career would have been different.

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 4>Sure she knows that, yeah, that movie, but I.

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Mean Backgammon does have a lot of like life lessons,

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 2>and one of them is just like you can't think

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>like that, like if you pass or take the doubling cube,

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>or this happens, or you move it one way or another,

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>like there is chance and you can't really be like

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 2>it might not have been the same if you did

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 2>the thing, you know what I mean, Like maybe Friends

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have been a hit if the casting was different

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It is, like you maybe you just it's

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>not a one for one. Yeah, and that's something I

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:59.399
<v Speaker 2>learned from backgammon. Okay, So anyways, where are we? Where

0:39:59.400 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 2>are we?

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 4>We love?

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Heady End, so heady End. She they show her the

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 2>sketch and it's just like a UNI bomber. She's like,

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't that the unabomber? And so like he's in a

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 2>hood in shades. So now we're back at home base.

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Everyone saw this guy, but nobody remembers him. So he's

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a nobody, you know. Mistress Cellophane Vibes, Chicago,

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 4>I had.

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I actually flew in a day before I was supposed to,

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I fucked up my schedule in my head, and

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>so I had kind of like a free day and

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 2>I just did a solo lunch in New York, a walk,

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 2>went to the mystery bookshop, just kind of enjoyed my day.

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>But there was a family I was gonna read in

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 2>my book and I could not focus. There was a

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 2>family trying to pick what Broadway show to go to?

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 2>No less than an hour. The whole time, I was

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 2>no less than an hour going back and forth Chicago,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 2>what about Jella Club?

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 4>But it's this? What about that? What about this? I

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 4>was going to.

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I kept wanting to get up and go just go

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 2>see the Jellico ball is closing in a week.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 4>You can always see Chicago.

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 2>But I was gonna be like, Mary is funny, Like

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, go see Titanic.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 4>They're like, is that just gay?

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>This?

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Like I mean it? They would not stop.

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 2>And then once I felt like they were down and

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>whittled it down, Ragtime came into the conversation, and I'm like,

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 2>oh my.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 1>God, oh my god, Like, wait, did I tell you what?

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I was that the lead of Ragtime at a party

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like on fourth of July? Oh was it Brian Saffie?

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it's a separate party.

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>No fourth like like Lisa a suburban New Jersey like

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>kid party like And I met this guy and was

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 2>like and then my friend goes, oh, yeah, he's the

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 2>lead in Ragtime.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, you could have mentioned that. I

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>could have talked Hi about it a little bit, but no, whatever,

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But no.

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I told someone else about the Whoopy monologue about car

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Young of being, like you did great, and did I

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>tell you this?

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I told you guys this, right, do you guys know

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 2>not know? I saw the Whoopy monologues? No, Oh my god.

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So I went to the Woopy Monologues with Caleb and

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Amy Miller, and I had no idea what it was.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, Kerry Washington comes out Dominique fish

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Back like it's just like a Who's who of you

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 2>know actresses incredible, and it's like a remake of the Whoopee,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Like this is what broke Whoopee. I guess she like

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 2>wrote these monologues and it's different characters and Whoopy played

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>them all right, but in this version, like different women

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 2>play it. I knew nothing. I got an invite. I

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>do whatever Caleb tells me. It's kind of like part

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of my life. If he says be somewhere, I go,

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 2>and so he runs off because and so it's just

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 2>me and Amy. We decide to go to PJ.

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Clark's.

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sitting in PJ Clarks. We're like eating it's

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 2>not even that good, but whatever. So we're having like

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 2>we're catching up, we're having a good time. My favorite

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>actress from the show walks in and so Amy stops

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 2>her because I'm sitting facing Amy, and I go, oh

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 2>my god, I'm like, you were incredible.

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 4>You were so good.

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:43.720
<v Speaker 2>And then Amy tells her like you were her favorite

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 2>we were just talking about and I'm like, no, we

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>don't say that, but I was like, you were amazing.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 2>She recognizes me this actress. She goes, I'm obsessed with

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>you ding, So we like, I'm like, can I find

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.919
<v Speaker 2>you on Instagram? And like you're incredible? And I see

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 2>she's in the movie as god Is, so I'm like, oh,

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 2>so she's like probably like a huge deal whatever. So

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 2>like I can't believe she knows me, I know her whatever.

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 2>So then I'm talking to Jake and Andy when I'm

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 2>in Pete Town and Andy's a Broadway sorry was like

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 2>in Spring Awake, and like he you know, he works

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>all the time, so he and he's in TV and

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.919
<v Speaker 2>film whatever. So I'm talking about this person and he goes,

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Kara Young and I go yeah, and he goes, she

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 2>has three Tonys. She's nominated every year and she's the

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>most incredible actress in New York.

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 4>City and I go, I go because I DMed.

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Her like keep at it, kid, Not really, but I

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 2>was just like talking to her, like I'm truly blown

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>away by you.

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 4>That was like such an incredible performance.

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 2>One of the most winning actresses won like the Tony

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 2>for Best Actress two years in a row with you

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>two years.

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>In a row, and she's the first black actress to

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>be Tony nominated four consecutive years.

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm just like, hey, girl, you were incredible.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was humiliated. I mean, I don't think I

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 2>was embarrassing, because I know what it feels like to

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 2>be treated like keep at it or like what the

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, like people don't know.

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.280
<v Speaker 4>What your other or whatever.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I you know, I definitely DMed her, just

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 2>like I just needed to tell you one more time

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 2>what an incredible performance you did, Like you blew me away.

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 1>She's probably like literally in the mix to be honest

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>for you. Can't you imagine if she's huge, if she's

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>huge on Broadway, Like there's definitely no way Marishka doesn't

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>know who she is.

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 2>So then I'm with Mark Schabelski this week, and she

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 2>like loves Broadway. She writes musicals and so like I

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>tell her the story and then when I like reveal

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 2>who it is, she goes it was Kara Young.

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 4>I go, I know, like I fucking know, Oh my gosh, No,

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 4>you're right.

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 2>It was the day before I left for pe Town,

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 2>because I should have gone straight home to pack, but

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>of course I didn't.

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I stayed out with Amy Miller eating at PJ. Clark's.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>But I got to meet fucking you know, Carrie Young,

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>so it was all worth it. And I love Amy

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Miller so much. Yeah, I was happy she was in

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 2>New York. And then Kayle because we just thought the

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 2>show started at seven. There was miscommunication, but it started at.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Eight, by the way, I love On the website for

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the Whoopee, it goes, Whoopy Goldberg is not scheduled to

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 1>appear in this production. Because I met you, so many

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>people are like, where's Whoopee?

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I they should have at least even had like

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a paragraph or a blurb or like some sort of

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>explanation in the playbill, because like Amy had to explain

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 2>it to me after even even watching it. It was

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 2>just like she was in it, you know, Yetta Adam. Well, okay,

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>we're back, We're back.

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 4>You're back, we're home base.

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 2>How did we even get to the Whoope monologues? And

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like shocked. Okay, so everyone saw this guy, no

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 2>one remembers him. There was a delivery driver near the

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.439
<v Speaker 2>alley who did see a man running into a dark

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>four tourists but couldn't catch the license plate. And they're like, well,

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>let's call Hwang, like we need his help. Fuck, he's

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>not available. He's on assignment in DC. So now we

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 2>have Amanda Plumber okay, and she's an actress and we're excited.

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 2>And she won an Emmy for this part Outstanding Guest

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Actress and a Drama Series. And this is two thousand

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 2>and five, the same year I graduated high school, which

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>all seems very insane to me.

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>And bad Wong was on Broadway and that's why they

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>had to bring in someone that comes in later.

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 4>But he's not on assignment in d stage or stuff.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Why Sailor's like, can I help you? Like he works

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 2>at American Eagle. It's like you're on a special I say this, So, like,

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 2>why is there not a receptionist at SVU?

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Like we can't pay somebody like minimum wage or something

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>with benefits. Just to sit there and go, Hi, can

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I help you? Let me get you a cup of

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>coffee while you're waiting to just close your rape, Like

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why people are always just wandering in

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>staring at the walls until someone notices them.

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm yeah.

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 2>So she's she's mumbling, you know, she's a little inappropriate

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 2>to say off her rocker, right, So like she's talking

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 2>in science terms, mumbling units, principles, looking over the shoulder,

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 2>like she's just not making sense. So she's panting, she's swatting,

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 2>and when Benson tries to get closer to her, like

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 2>she's swatted so you know she can't handle it. Now

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 2>she's repeating numbers fourteen seventeen, twenty two, thirty six thirty

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 2>oh bonds underscore, babbling carbon. Ben's as a crumbled piece

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 2>of paper from her, and it is the like the

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>sketch of.

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 4>The unibomber looking guy.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>And then there's red, blue and green ink pens written

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 2>all over at arrows shapes like lots of words. It's

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>like something happened with this guy. Benson asks if she

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 2>was attacked, and she goes that was the reason, and

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>then mumbles, she's very freaked out, mouth open like eyes

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 2>so shocked. When she sees the picture again, she ends

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 2>up hitting Finn Stabler holds her from behind. Craigan runs

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 2>out full suspenders, like what the hell is going on?

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Benson says, could be victim number four. So they have

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.479
<v Speaker 2>to go to Bellevue. And this woman's name is Miranda Cole.

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>They know because they have her ID. She's not really communicating,

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 2>she can't really answer questions, and then she almost did

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 2>by a nurse's finger off, so I really like her vibe.

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 2>So then they call in doctor Hendris. Rebecca Hendrix. She's

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a friend of the pod Mary Stuart Masterson, so we've

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 2>done other episodes with her.

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 4>This is obviously her introduction.

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 2>She used to be a cop but then decided to

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 2>join the lab coat life. She's wearing a peach turtleneck

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and they're going to medicate Miranda, so you know they

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 2>can treat her and also hopefully get information. Benson gives

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Hendricks the heads up she might have been sexually assaulted.

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 2>She's freaking out, and then we can assume time has

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.320
<v Speaker 2>passed because she feels she looks more calm. She's sitting

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>up in her hospital bed and Rebecca's very close to

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 2>her and asks if she's hearing voices in her head

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 2>right now, and Miranda answers, yes, what are they saying?

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 2>The doctor says, she says, it is my fault. I

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 2>brought this on what terrorists?

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 4>Why?

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 2>But Laden wants to hide in plain sight, but I

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 2>can see. Benson jumps in. When were you attacked? She

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>says yesterday. She says, I have to leave now, but

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 2>they obviously don't want her to go. They have to

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 2>examine her. She's scared of the nurse. She doesn't want foursips.

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Benson is like all over the case. Hendrix is all

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 2>about the medicine. She doesn't want anything else in her.

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, who touched you? She starts saying no, no, no, no,

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>no no more listening devices stop stop stop stop. So

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 2>then Hendrix has to hop her up on medication. Hendrix

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 2>walks wants to talk outside. Stabler's outside in the hall

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>and is like, what did she say? And then Rebecca

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 2>and Olivia are out there and Benson goes, well, it

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:12.280
<v Speaker 2>seems like she was raped by terrorists, and Rebecca says

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the obvious, like, you know, Miranda has schizophrenia and has

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 2>probably been off her meds for a while. They're gonna

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 2>try some antipsychotics and then they can try again later

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 2>and she's she says.

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 4>Nice to see you, Olivia.

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 2>So Olivia's eyes open a little wider and goes, well,

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>what about the rape kit? And she goes, it's too traumatic, dude,

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 2>like you saw her. And Stabler asks if she thinks

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 2>she was rape The doctor says, well, schizophrenics rarely false

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 2>report and then stress off and brings on a psychotic

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>break and Benson's like, I'm sure that you can appreciate

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.399
<v Speaker 2>the importance of getting this done fast. He attacked three

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:48.240
<v Speaker 2>women in one night and she could be the fourth,

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, yes, but I care about my patient first,

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 2>so that's what I'm gonna do.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 4>Fuck. Stabler gets a call.

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 2>It is another victim, so they had to Broadway souvenirs

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 2>and Laurie Switzer twenty four, was close shot by herself.

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 2>The dad called when she didn't come home, and it's

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 2>the same neighborhood, but this victim is dead. She was

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 2>right from behind and there's impressions on the back of

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 2>her neck from being held down, and then he just

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 2>snapped her neck.

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 4>So she fought really hard.

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 2>There's no fluids, and Melinda's going to try to get

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.720
<v Speaker 2>something from the nails, but she did keep them short

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 2>and there aren't obvious disabilities, but Melinda's going to do

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 2>her job and get back to everybody. So he's either

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 2>so he's either evolving and like the victim doesn't have

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 2>to be vulnerable anymore or young, or like even need

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to survive, like things are changing in terms of them,

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 2>and they're all really really pissed, like we have a

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>living victim in the hospital and we can't even fucking

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 2>talk to her. So then Stabler says it would be

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 2>too traumatic and she snaps back, it's always traumatic and

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>he says she's a cop and Benson goes, no former cop.

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 2>So they went to the academy together, but two years

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.319
<v Speaker 2>later she went to go be like a doctor, and

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Benson doubts that Hendrick's even members what they're up against.

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Sailor said, so mad.

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>At this woman for quitting. Yeah, she's like very mad.

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>She's like, how dare you go be a doctor? Like

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you're both helping people, Like, yeah, she didn't want to

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>be a cop, get over?

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, who wasn't her passion?

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Like so she's really mad and she's like, they don't

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 2>know what we're up against, and Sable goes, then we

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>should remind her. It's like they're just bullying anyone that

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 2>can't finish the academy. Benson and Stabler enter. Benson has

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 2>no chill. Rebecca's like lab coat clipboard vibes, and she's like,

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:34.320
<v Speaker 2>we need to talk to Miranda now, rape kit now,

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and Hendrix goes, yeah, it's already done. I did it

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.799
<v Speaker 2>like chill, it's at the crime lab. Saba goes, wow,

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 2>finally a shrink who gets it, and this is his

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>like separation era. So he wants to fuck Rebecca. It's

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 2>like very obvious they are flirty. So then she goes, yeah,

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to help you. Fuck heads. And Miranda's responding

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 2>well to the meds. You can interview her whenever you

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 2>would like. She's aware of her illness. She's self conscious

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:59.240
<v Speaker 2>about like you know how she sounds like to other people,

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 2>but she believes they are real.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:02.359
<v Speaker 4>She doesn't want to talk about the rape.

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Like PTSD is really intense with people who have schizophrenia.

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>It's really tough, like they can't separate it. So like

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the PTSD is stronger. Benson interrupts her, goes, yeah, we

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>all know about PTSD. Thanks, and she says, I know,

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:20.720
<v Speaker 2>but it's not just flashbacks. People with schizophrenia relive it, okay.

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 2>As she's talking about it, the sounds and sensations come

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 2>back very vividly and feel real. She says she can

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 2>sit in if that helps, and like so, before Benson

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 2>can say no, Stabler accepts the offer. Miranda is laying

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 2>and they start chatting with her, and she's sort of

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 2>remembering coming to the station last night. They asked why

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>she comes in. She says, something happened to me. You

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>won't believe me. Benson reassures her, like, we believe that

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 2>somebody hurt you. What did he do to you? And

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, She's like, she he read my mind. I

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 2>couldn't stop him. Stabler asked what he looks like. He

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 2>controls her eyes so she can't see, and teleport so

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:58.919
<v Speaker 2>he's always behind her.

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 4>I can hear him.

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Don't scream or will kill you, communicates through the lights.

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 2>She starts scratching her skin and it's like almost bleeding,

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and she digs deeper and deeper. When they show her

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the sketch that she brought in with the pen marks,

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.279
<v Speaker 2>and it leads her to full volume shrieking. Rebecca confronts her,

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, not comforts her. Comforts her, and then we

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>go straight to a walk and talk. And so it's

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 2>our dynamic duo in a mighty duck formation with Craigan

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 2>in the front. And he's like, so we don't even

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.839
<v Speaker 2>know she was raped, and I hate when he acts dumb,

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Like anytime they make our people act dumber than they

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 2>are really bothers me. But I know that's what needs

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 2>to happen to the story physician, to be like so

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>everybody knows where we are. But it is annoying because Craigan,

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:47.399
<v Speaker 2>she did talk about standing from behind. That can't be coincidence.

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:49.879
<v Speaker 2>Stabler's like, listen, she came to her station. I think

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 2>something happened, and she is our only hope. Craigan goes

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 2>and they found semen in the rape kits, so there's

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 2>a match. Holy shit, Raymond Edinger. So they see Raymond Editer.

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like on a pool. As they say his name,

0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 2>he starts running, he's sprinting. Stabler tackles him and we

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 2>could tell he's like obviously suffering from schizophrenia as well,

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 2>and like, you guys are so stupid. So he's screaming,

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you're not a real person, don't be a werewolf. As

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 2>they're arresting him, he's like at like they're like shut up,

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>shut up. And as they drag him away and old

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 2>man yells he can't help it, leave them alone. And

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I just watch How to Lose a Guy in Ten

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Days on one of my flights, and I immediately recognize

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.439
<v Speaker 2>this man. He is Uncle Arnold from the Bullshit card

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 2>scene in How to Lose Guy in Ten Day. I

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I would have recognized if I didn't

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 2>just watch. So he's so Now we're with Raymond. He's

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 2>babbling in cement room bars. He's making no sense. Pencils

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and crans. Everything is different. You guys have really changed.

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 2>They're dumbfounded. This is kind of like high comedy. Their

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 2>faces are really silly. He's now left alone in the

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 2>room talking. He's talking about crusts and goats have strings

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 2>in their toes, and Julie andrews and she goes, oh.

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, he's talking about sound of music the goats.

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen it. Oh there's a goat puppet show.

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, Guyana who was a lonely goat. Yeah, anyway,

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I just put that together. Thank you for that. I

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 1>just assumed like real goats like I did not. So

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>she goes, oh, Ray Ray, he's a frequent flyer at Bellevue,

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and she guesses they fucked at the hospital he was

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>let out that morning. Sailor's like, you share the sex

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 1>was consensual. She's like, oh, yeah, it happens all the time.

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Ray Ray is not a rapist, like it's his DNA

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 2>is in the system, but it's for filing hundreds of

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 2>false reports about his neighbor trying to murder his cat.

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 4>She just like doesn't believe that this is it.

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, well, great, good news, she wasn't raped, and

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like, wait, what I again. I hate when they

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:45.160
<v Speaker 2>say stupid things when they are decorated detectives, like you

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 2>could have consensual sex and also be raped, like multiple

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 2>things can happen. And Rebecca does say like, no, I

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 2>think she was, and Benson goes, well, there wasn't spermicide

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 2>which was present and the others, and so the doctor goes, no,

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, but like it means she couldn't like it.

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Just means she wasn't raped last night. People with schizophrenia

0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:03.279
<v Speaker 2>lose their perception of time. It could have happened a

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.840
<v Speaker 2>week ago, but it feels like yesterday. And also it

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 2>fits his type, especially like if she's off her meds

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 2>and Reyray goes to the window and goes, hey, I

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 2>can't find my head, and so they got to let

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:18.280
<v Speaker 2>him out. So they're like, let's go ask Miranda about stuff.

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 2>So when they get there, she's already checked herself out

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:24.799
<v Speaker 2>and a couple hours ago, after the twenty four hour

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>hold expired. I don't know if I said Melinda and Miranda,

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:30.399
<v Speaker 2>but we're going to talk to Miranda Amanda Plumber. So

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.359
<v Speaker 2>they got to find her. No luck, she's in the wind.

0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows where she lives. And Benson's like, she should

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 2>have been held, and the doc is like, yeah, we

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 2>can't force her to stay. Benson goes that's the problem

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 2>with mental health professionals like you, Okay, you guys medicate

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 2>them just enough to cut them loose, and nobody monitors

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 2>them when they're off their meds. They are victims or

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 2>purpse of crimes, and then we have to clean up

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 2>your mess. Hundricks goes, oh, you want to play this game?

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Would you want me to lock them all up? Is

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 2>that going to make your life easier? Is that your plan?

0:56:57.640 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Olivia?

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 2>She goes, if it keeps them safe? Yes, and it's like, Olivia,

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 2>come like, I just I hate Yeah, let's like lock

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:05.320
<v Speaker 2>up schizophrenics.

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Like what are you talking about?

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 2>So Craigan goes, Okay, ladies can't fight over, let's find her.

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 2>So he doesn't say that I think I had the

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 2>cat fight, or maybe he does. I don't know. You

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 2>never know.

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 4>So she has a sister, so let's see if that helps.

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:20.240
<v Speaker 2>So Stabler invites her to come help them since they'll

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 2>need a shrink when they find her, and there's like,

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 2>already such trust build between them. They're being so flirty.

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, I already have a job, and he's like,

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 2>then why are you here then? And it's like, obviously

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 2>she wants to fuck you and you might not be

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:34.919
<v Speaker 2>a cop anymore, but I know you want to find

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 2>this guy as badly as we do. So they cut

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 2>to the sister's house and is Geneva car friend of

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 2>the pod and she's been in like three episodes. She

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 2>was in the dugger episode that we covered and we

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 2>love her. So she called four days ago, she said,

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Branda called her sister four days ago. She said she

0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 2>was attacked, but she thought it was another episode. And

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 2>she's like, well, you know, everyone's always trying to kill her.

0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 2>And she starts crying because she feels so bad. She

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't think it would true, and Hendricks reassures her and

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 2>they're like, but she did say someone hurt her inside,

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 2>and then they need to find her, and she explains

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 2>that she bought Miranda an apartment with inheritance after their

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 2>mother died, but she rarely stays there.

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 4>But they go to check there.

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 2>It's up the upper west side by the park and

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 2>that's where all the other rapes happen. So they enter

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 2>the house. All the windows are covered, no lamps, no lights.

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 2>They communicate through lights, you know. So then soda can tops,

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 2>thousands of them are hanging all over. There's lots of

0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 2>paper molecules and terrorism are her fixations. And they hear

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 2>a noise. Benson opens the door and it's like fully

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 2>foil like wall behind it, and so then we hear whimperings.

0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 2>So she like rips up the foil and Miranda is

0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 2>on in a ball on the floor. She says it's

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.440
<v Speaker 2>not safe, she's blocking him, but he came in anyways.

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 4>The kitchen is wired.

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Three and then four something clips with something hearing three

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.959
<v Speaker 2>and then four something clicks with stabler. I'm not really

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 2>sure what it was, but they go to the kitchen

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.919
<v Speaker 2>and she did preserve the crime scene. Everything is there.

0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Say it, say it, you'll like it, or I'll hit you.

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Tell me what's wrong. Tell me I'm a man, best

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 2>man you've ever had. So now she's quoting him. Something's

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 2>inside he is, he hears from the inside out, disguise

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>over his eyes. Head is made of bugs and left

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 2>one here to spy on her. And there is a

0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 2>blood mark. And then again quote say it feels good,

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 2>say my name, say Thomas. Holy shit, she's gonna break

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 2>this case, so.

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:32.800
<v Speaker 4>Now they do.

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand how the she would know how

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.200
<v Speaker 1>many victims there were, though, like the three and the

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:41.880
<v Speaker 1>four thing, like how that even played in She.

0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Might be like reading all the newspapers or heard them

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.520
<v Speaker 2>talking about all the victims, and like they were talking

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 2>about information, like who fucking knows you know?

0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 4>And I wonder if this guy like didn't.

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>He didn't say his name to any of the other girls,

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 1>but for this one, he was like, oh she no

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 1>one will believe anything she says because she's you.

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Know, yeah, yeah, I do know. Yeah.

1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So now they pulled every Taurus for Taurus matching everybody

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 2>New York. So they get all the four tauruses matching

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the description registered under Thomas. There's one hundred and fifty

1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 2>of them, but they narrow it down and one only

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:24.840
<v Speaker 2>one's in the area, and it's Dallas Roberts aka Gregory Yates,

1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:26.160
<v Speaker 2>aka Friend of the Pod.

1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 4>And this is exciting. He's at the center of all

1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:32.520
<v Speaker 4>these This episode is simply brimming with Friends of the Pod.

1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I know. It's so fucking cool.

1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:37.920
<v Speaker 2>And they hang his ID photo on the workboard and

1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 2>we got to see if the blood from the kitchen

1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:42.240
<v Speaker 2>matches the blood from Gina's crutch and then if it's

1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:45.640
<v Speaker 2>like matches him, and holy shit, that's a suspect. So

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:47.800
<v Speaker 2>they run the background check and they see if Melinda

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Warner can make a house call.

1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.200
<v Speaker 4>So they're gonna try to play mind games with him.

1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 2>They don't have a warrant, but they're gonna see if

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:55.920
<v Speaker 2>he'll give up the DNA, so knock, knock, knock. Stabler,

1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Finn and Melinda are there and then like a hot

1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:02.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking sexy muscle guy opens the door. It's not Dallas.

1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:04.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a different guy. Not that Dallas isn't hot, it's

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:07.880
<v Speaker 2>just like a different vibe. So then it's like just

1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 2>like a very very sexy guy, like very yes, yes, yes,

1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:16.640
<v Speaker 2>like yes, and he's in a towel. Like Melinda says, hey,

1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:20.080
<v Speaker 2>we're hot, like hard eyes, like she's the hard I emoji.

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Either one of you smokes. He says quit a year ago.

1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Thomas hates it, and he's like, hey, hot stuff, go

1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:30.080
<v Speaker 2>get dressed and we'll wait for Thomas out here.

1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:34.000
<v Speaker 4>And it's a one bedroom so they're like he's gay.

1:01:34.080 --> 1:01:35.760
<v Speaker 4>He's gay. Fit's like the guy.

1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:40.959
<v Speaker 2>Is gay, and then Melinda goes, it's a damn shame,

1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:44.240
<v Speaker 2>and so like bisexuality.

1:01:43.360 --> 1:01:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Does not exist in season six.

1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:49.040
<v Speaker 2>So and also like Kendall's clearly a gay guy, Like

1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:52.040
<v Speaker 2>nothing is confusing here. So then the hottie goes, can

1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I ask what's up? And they go, well, there're sexual

1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:55.920
<v Speaker 2>assaults in the area on women, and he grins and

1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:58.680
<v Speaker 2>he's like and you think he did it. Dallas comes

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:01.560
<v Speaker 2>out in a robe, sheepishly, asking what's going on, and

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Hatty's like, oh, they think you attack some women like Ello. Well,

1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Sabler was like, no, we just want to ask some questions.

1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:10.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not a big deal. You still drive afore Taurus, right,

1:02:10.520 --> 1:02:12.920
<v Speaker 2>he says yeah. He goes, I'm sorry who was attacked?

1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:15.800
<v Speaker 2>And Finn asks for the whereabouts three nights ago? He goes,

1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not you know, I'm not saying anything, and the

1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Hotty goes, come on, we were home and we were

1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:22.760
<v Speaker 2>in bed by ten. Dallas is annoyed, Alan, why don't

1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 2>we just broadcast it? And so he's in the closet

1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:28.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's like everyone's into different things and that's what's

1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:30.400
<v Speaker 2>like really cool, but.

1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:33.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like it must suck to be with someone that's closeted.

1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I know you have to do it for

1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:39.880
<v Speaker 2>people's careers and that's really sad and different reasons and trauma.

1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:42.760
<v Speaker 2>But and I you know, I read some books that

1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:46.320
<v Speaker 2>cover this, like I do you know, it just sucks

1:02:46.440 --> 1:02:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and I wonder if they're open or not. So Han

1:02:49.040 --> 1:02:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, and then he rubs his back and he screams,

1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:54.200
<v Speaker 2>stop it. And he shimmeys out of this hand rub

1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and the Haughty looks upset and Sabl's like, you need

1:02:56.720 --> 1:02:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to answer questions three nights ago. He goes, I was

1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:03.640
<v Speaker 2>in bed with Alan, okay, and then Staybler's like, easy, bro,

1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:05.640
<v Speaker 2>just give us a DNA sample and we'll be out

1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:08.600
<v Speaker 2>of here. He says, no, he doesn't want to, and

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<v Speaker 2>Hatie is like, whatever, it's not like they're gonna catalog

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<v Speaker 2>at his homo blood.

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<v Speaker 4>Love that. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want merch. They're not going to catalog it as

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<v Speaker 2>homo blood. That's that's a top ten quote for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love this hot guy. So then no blood.

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<v Speaker 2>They say it's just a swab in the mouth, so

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, fine, I'll do it. So I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 2>shocked about that. So now we're to walk and talk

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<v Speaker 2>at the precinct. They're going to rush it, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's their guy since he's gay. But Olivia

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<v Speaker 2>and John found some more stuff on this guy, so

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<v Speaker 2>his presentation time. So he was at Michigan State for

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<v Speaker 2>six and a half years, and during that time there

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<v Speaker 2>was a bunch of unsolved peeping incidences and they stopped

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<v Speaker 2>whenever he took medical leaves, which was multiple time during

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<v Speaker 2>his college career and also after he graduated. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Cleveland for two years, and then several unsolved

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<v Speaker 2>breaking and entering incidences. So then either the boyfriend is

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<v Speaker 2>lying or he's a super heavy sleeper. But also there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a call with his mom at ten pm

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<v Speaker 2>from Queen's then, but it was like outgoing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the next call or whatever there was cell phone tower stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the next call with his at was like

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<v Speaker 2>he had on his phone was at his mom's house

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<v Speaker 2>in Queens.

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<v Speaker 4>So but the rapes didn't happen till two.

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<v Speaker 2>So even if he's on his phone in Queen's at midnight,

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<v Speaker 2>he could have still done the rapes at two. So

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<v Speaker 2>they have to go like, but why would he visit

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<v Speaker 2>his mom the night of the rape? And is that

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<v Speaker 2>what fueled the rape? Like you know, because Munch was

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<v Speaker 2>like what would Freud say about all that? So we

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<v Speaker 2>have to go and see how long he was with

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<v Speaker 2>his mom. So they go to Bussiness Mather's home in

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<v Speaker 2>Queen's and they're obviously under a ruise. So she's like, oh, Thomason,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me about a car accident and then she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could just not be his car. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just checking on stuff. The mom is smoking ding

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<v Speaker 2>ding ding ding. It's like such an intense smile. So

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<v Speaker 2>then she says it probably wasn't him because he would

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<v Speaker 2>never hit somebody and drive away. She says, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just get off the call. Uh says, let me just

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<v Speaker 2>get off the call.

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<v Speaker 1>She was on the phone like when they came, like classic,

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<v Speaker 1>like New York mom, like the doorbell rings.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't go like, she goes, just hold on a second,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So he says that three nights ago, a little after midnight,

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<v Speaker 2>her furnace was broken again, he sayed, twenty minutes, and

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<v Speaker 2>so Much was like, I'll go look at it. So

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<v Speaker 2>the furnace keeps getting broken. Dallas was there fixing the furnace.

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<v Speaker 2>So Much is going to look at it. So cute, Finn.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, must be nice to have your son to

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<v Speaker 2>help whenever you need it. She goes, ah, he's always

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<v Speaker 2>such a bitch about it though, always talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>he has his own life nonsense. But she calls him

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<v Speaker 2>a good boy. Thomas arrives and goes, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>is going on here? And VID's like, oh, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>getting some answers, like a lot of stuff that you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't talking about, and Thomas says, you can't just come

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<v Speaker 2>harass people. Munch comes from fucking with the furnace and says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just being helpful. And look how dirty my nails

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<v Speaker 2>are from the furnace. So all the pieces are falling

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<v Speaker 2>into place. He has the dirty hands, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>the manicure spot if you remember that. They grab him

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, you can make it an ugh. They go,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta get my hands cleaned up, like let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to the station to get an appointment whatever, So they

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<v Speaker 2>arrest his ass. We're in cement room bars the whole

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<v Speaker 2>team is in the spy room and Kragan's like, so

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<v Speaker 2>do you think being gay is a cover? And they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>well that seems really elaborate and like truly by does

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<v Speaker 2>not come up, Like it is really crazy, like by

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<v Speaker 2>your this is by erasure. It's like bry people are

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<v Speaker 2>so annoying, but it is just like it is just

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<v Speaker 2>not even an option for the It's so crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wonder if this episode would be different today or

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<v Speaker 2>like what but you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Rule somebody out just because they're getting like, just because

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<v Speaker 1>they're living with a man.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think today, Well, I yeah, but like raping

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<v Speaker 2>a cops might be that dumb, Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So Benson's like, a homo rapist is new to me,

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<v Speaker 2>but not impossible. And then rape isn't about sexual attraction.

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<v Speaker 2>It is about power, and women make better victims, easier

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<v Speaker 2>to control. The door opens and Hendrix is there. Elliott

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<v Speaker 2>asked her to stop by. Okay, so someone has a crush.

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<v Speaker 2>Stabler asks her why a homosexual man would rape women,

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes, well, same reason as a hetero man.

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<v Speaker 2>She would have to know more about his psychopathology. So

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<v Speaker 2>Stabler invites her to sit on into the interrogation. Benson, shocked, goes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when did you become a champion of the mental health promom?

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<v Speaker 2>And Stabler goes, well, you said it's new to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And Craigan's like, okay, the three people like might rattle him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is good and you know he's already rattle. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go rattle him. So it's a party in cement room

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<v Speaker 2>bars and they're like, bro, you lied to us, and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, I was just confused. And you know my

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend was drunk. Well, he doesn't say boyfriend, He's just

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<v Speaker 2>like Alan was drunk. Benson then calls him his boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and he screams he isn't my boyfriend, and Benson goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you live with him, sleep with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>have sex with him, and Dallas Roberts goes he says,

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<v Speaker 2>that's disgusting. Rebecca quickly asks, what's disgusting that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about that stuff now? Tom Stabler says,

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<v Speaker 2>the only person who's got a problem with homosexuals is you.

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<v Speaker 4>Get over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Rebecca says, hey, you're bleeding, and he's like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>cut myself shaving, No big deal. Benson leans in and goes, so,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the issue with being gay? I heard your dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Alan is quite a catch according to RM ME. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just love that Melinda called Benson to like gossip

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<v Speaker 2>about the hawkeye from work.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, girl, you're not gonna believe

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<v Speaker 4>the abs on this man, so fucking funny. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gay. I'm just going through a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And they ask if he's ever had a girlfriend, and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, whatever. Lots of guys don't find the right girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Benson says, well, that's true. Being singles not easy. You

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<v Speaker 2>would not and then he you know, it's the cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>You would not look twice at me if I asked

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<v Speaker 2>you out, and he's getting mad, you would not give

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<v Speaker 2>me the time of day. So don't pretend to understand

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm going through. I don't need your pity. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Stabler kind of mocks Samon goes, you're just looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the right girl and one day you'll rape her

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<v Speaker 2>and live happily ever after, and he gives him a

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<v Speaker 2>dirty look. And so now we're in the center room

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<v Speaker 2>and Novak joined the chat and she says that he's

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<v Speaker 2>like got a built in defense, like, oh I'm gay

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<v Speaker 2>again again. So then Hendrix says, well, he's not different

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<v Speaker 2>from any other rapists. They view all sexuality as sick

1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:23.599
<v Speaker 2>and depraved. Sex is equated with degradation and violence. Stabler

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<v Speaker 2>adds that he probably blames women for making him gay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like he told the victims to tell him

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<v Speaker 2>how much they want him, he feels helpless and wants control.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Hendrix and my boy David Wilson, they have

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<v Speaker 2>like same vibe theories.

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<v Speaker 4>And then rapist you know, gay or straight?

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<v Speaker 2>They want power, and Novak goes, fine, arrest him and

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<v Speaker 2>Craigan goes, no, don't, and they're like, what the fuck why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he didn't do it. Warner call Thomas Mathers. DNA

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<v Speaker 2>did not match the blood at either crime scene. They

1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:51.800
<v Speaker 2>ran it three times, they have to cut him loose.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like shocked. I'm like truly shocked. And again, I've

1:09:54.520 --> 1:09:57.360
<v Speaker 2>seen this episode so many times. I'm like shocked. At

1:09:57.400 --> 1:09:58.960
<v Speaker 2>this point, I'm like, what the fuck? What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>What is happening. So Benson and Sailor then start fighting

1:10:03.080 --> 1:10:06.200
<v Speaker 2>about Hendrix, and Benson wants a shot at Miranda without Rebecca.

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<v Speaker 2>She thought being a cop was beneath her and left

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want her doing cop work.

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<v Speaker 4>And he goes, oh, is this what? This is?

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<v Speaker 2>Like an inferiority complex, and Benson goes, listen, bitch, I

1:10:16.479 --> 1:10:18.120
<v Speaker 2>know you're on the rebound and everything, but if you

1:10:18.120 --> 1:10:19.960
<v Speaker 2>could keep it out of work, that would be great,

1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and he gives her a look of annoyance but also

1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:25.759
<v Speaker 2>like quite smoldering, and as he turns the corner, Rebecca's

1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:28.000
<v Speaker 2>they're waiting, going like, I don't want to come between

1:10:28.040 --> 1:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you and your partner, but also she wants to talk

1:10:30.040 --> 1:10:33.040
<v Speaker 2>about something else. She goes the shaving CT on Mather's neck.

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<v Speaker 2>It's strange, she you know, he said it was shaving,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had stubble, so why wouldn't the blood clot

1:10:38.439 --> 1:10:41.400
<v Speaker 2>So he has his little confused face on and he says,

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<v Speaker 2>let's find out what this means. So now we're with

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<v Speaker 2>sexy tech Doyle. So the blood at both crime scenes like, oh,

1:10:49.360 --> 1:10:51.439
<v Speaker 2>also a friend of the pod, Doyle like, where are

1:10:51.439 --> 1:10:52.280
<v Speaker 2>you following me?

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<v Speaker 1>But I it wasn't what Karen Browning at the beginning too. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like our most like guests.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Floric Yeap and Diane Neil. I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had almost every single person from this episode on

1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:16.080
<v Speaker 2>our podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn, that is a thrill. That is a thrill.

1:11:20.760 --> 1:11:22.960
<v Speaker 2>And no guest today if you were wondering, Yeah, on

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<v Speaker 2>Hetty End Park, we should have gotten Hetty.

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<v Speaker 4>End you know, we should have heard one scene. Ah fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>But I must talk to Dallas about this episode, right,

1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Greg Yeats was so much to talk about, So I

1:11:35.960 --> 1:11:37.880
<v Speaker 2>don't I feel like we only touched on this one

1:11:38.400 --> 1:11:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and we had met him and we liked so much

1:11:40.000 --> 1:11:43.439
<v Speaker 2>of his other work and yeah's just so such a pleasure. Yeah,

1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:49.479
<v Speaker 2>like that was a thrill, so basically sexy text oile.

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<v Speaker 2>But I always forget his real name and fake name,

1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:57.720
<v Speaker 2>like Caro Flannagan is there? Like someone's a flanagain, right,

1:11:57.840 --> 1:11:59.880
<v Speaker 2>like why.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Doyle and he is playing Ryan o'hallarin.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Doyle's real name is.

1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Playing Ryan o'halarin okay, which might as well be o flanagan,

1:12:09.320 --> 1:12:16.880
<v Speaker 2>like they're the same. No, don't say say okay Hallarin Halarin.

1:12:18.240 --> 1:12:23.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay? So where am I? Where am I attack? Okay?

1:12:23.640 --> 1:12:26.040
<v Speaker 2>So the blood's at both crime scenes had a low

1:12:26.080 --> 1:12:29.799
<v Speaker 2>platelet count, which would make blood like longer to clot.

1:12:30.000 --> 1:12:33.160
<v Speaker 2>And what causes that? It's like disease or drugs? And

1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:36.080
<v Speaker 2>is there enough blood for the talk screen? They say,

1:12:36.120 --> 1:12:38.040
<v Speaker 2>But he goes, there's enough blood for that, but you

1:12:38.040 --> 1:12:41.759
<v Speaker 2>would have to like test for specific drugs. And Hendrix

1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:43.840
<v Speaker 2>it clicks because she stills got some cop in her,

1:12:43.880 --> 1:12:45.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, And she goes, well, he

1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:48.200
<v Speaker 2>took medical even college, right, so let's try to get

1:12:48.200 --> 1:12:50.599
<v Speaker 2>his medical records from Michigan State and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we're back at Miranda's apartment. Detective Benson's in there.

1:12:53.800 --> 1:12:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Her sister lets her in and she's talking about vapors

1:12:56.360 --> 1:12:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and gases and bugs and stuff. Benson pushes in and goes,

1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:01.519
<v Speaker 2>was there one or two men because they don't have

1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the information about the blood and diseases? Yeah, like there,

1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:06.559
<v Speaker 2>They're like, what is actually going on? And so she's

1:13:06.560 --> 1:13:10.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about teleportation, cobalt three atoms plus one. He found

1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:12.599
<v Speaker 2>them in the library. He's made of books in my hand.

1:13:12.680 --> 1:13:14.599
<v Speaker 2>So Benson's like, oh my god, he found you at

1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:18.479
<v Speaker 2>the library. He stalks as victims. So she goes changing

1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:21.439
<v Speaker 2>all the words burning up without fire. So Benson takes

1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:23.479
<v Speaker 2>her to the library so she can show Benson where

1:13:23.520 --> 1:13:25.840
<v Speaker 2>she saw him. And she's walking through the books and

1:13:25.840 --> 1:13:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Benson asks if this is where the terrorist was and

1:13:28.800 --> 1:13:30.720
<v Speaker 2>he was pretending to read, but she knew he was

1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:34.320
<v Speaker 2>recording her thoughts. Where was he standing? And they take

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<v Speaker 2>her to the books and it's principles of particle physics,

1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:39.000
<v Speaker 2>she says, and so they nod over to the bookshelf.

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<v Speaker 4>Miranda starts crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Benson sees the book on the shelf, grabs it with

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<v Speaker 2>a cloth, and he was reading this book and Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's still babbling, and she's like, girl, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta take your meds. It will make the terrorists go away, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, promise you will take these meds. And she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>they're recording you too. Benson looks up, sees a camera.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a security camera at the library.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Huge.

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<v Speaker 2>So then Benson walks in confident as fucking too. The preestinct,

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<v Speaker 2>Stabler and Hendrix are also smugs, so everyone has information.

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<v Speaker 2>So then so why did the blood not match? He

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<v Speaker 2>had fucking leukemia. The bone marrow was replaced with another,

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<v Speaker 2>so his the blood donor like, so his DNA, like

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<v Speaker 2>his blood and body DNA do not match. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why he let them swab the inside of his cheek,

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<v Speaker 2>because his blood is being made in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>like from this bone mare.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is Neil. This is Neil Bear.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a show runner, like we have a real

1:14:28.280 --> 1:14:30.639
<v Speaker 2>doctor showrunner in these years. This is a Neil Bear

1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:34.920
<v Speaker 2>medical fucking twist. I love it. I just like fucking

1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:40.000
<v Speaker 2>love this show so fucking much. And because I was wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously he did it, why would he let the swab happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because he fucking knew the Bone Marrow created

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<v Speaker 2>New Blood.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I can't with this show. It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>But they got the blood information without following the rules,

1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, like Stabler played some games because she would

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<v Speaker 2>lose her license. So like they're like, what are we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do? It's not enough to get a blood warrant.

1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Ben's holding a VHS and goes, well, this is we

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<v Speaker 2>have proof of him stalking Miranda with no fucking sunglasses.

1:15:06.920 --> 1:15:09.479
<v Speaker 2>So then, Judge Petrofsky, we're all at court, no bail,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be you know you're going to jail, bitch, gabble, gabble, gabble,

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<v Speaker 2>no VAX smiles at Benson. The bailiff takes him. Rebecca

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<v Speaker 2>runs to Olivia be ready, guys to be sad. Miranda

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<v Speaker 2>Cola is dead. She took her own life. So Benson

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<v Speaker 2>is like what and yeah, so she took her own life.

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<v Speaker 2>Her sister found her this morning. This is devastating, SVU like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? Why did you do this to us?

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<v Speaker 2>Benson makes it about her immediately and goes, ah, god

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<v Speaker 2>is this and I told you so lecture and she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for going so hard on her when Rebecca

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<v Speaker 2>kept being like, can you chill out? Like she yes, schizophrenia,

1:15:46.120 --> 1:15:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and she says her death has nothing to do with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the voices in her head who have told her

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<v Speaker 2>to do this for years. The voices got louder after

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<v Speaker 2>the rape. You can't save everyone, Olivia. Olivia starts tearing up.

1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:00.600
<v Speaker 2>She's so talented. Rebecca says sorry, She turns around and

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<v Speaker 2>gets into the elevator. This death has hurt our girl

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<v Speaker 2>so extra hard. She stands in the courtroom crying and

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<v Speaker 2>that's stickwolf.

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<v Speaker 4>Baby, So like.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to this guy, but like his motivation is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just a self hating gay man and he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like what is his motivation for doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's power and all that, but then he's

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<v Speaker 1>also like is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's by? I think he's by, But it also.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels like I felt like there was like one little

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<v Speaker 1>loop that needed to be closed, like his mom, like

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<v Speaker 1>he grew up religious and his mom told him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that he became a sin because in my head,

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<v Speaker 2>like he it's like it's in cell culture. Maddi Wiener

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<v Speaker 2>has like an incredible joke about this where it's like

1:16:46.360 --> 1:16:48.800
<v Speaker 2>these guys, it's not about like no one wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>fuck them. It's like they want an a to armists

1:16:50.760 --> 1:16:53.439
<v Speaker 2>to want to fuck. Yeah, they want Margot. Look at

1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Marishka Hargatango. You wouldn't look twice at me. It's like

1:16:56.080 --> 1:16:59.000
<v Speaker 2>she would look twice at most guys. She's gorgeous. Yeah,

1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So then they get mad that they can't have like

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<v Speaker 2>the hottest, most perfect girl, like they're not.

1:17:03.520 --> 1:17:05.000
<v Speaker 4>They're also not willing.

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<v Speaker 2>To like like fuck a girl that they're that's not

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<v Speaker 2>their vision in their head.

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<v Speaker 4>But like.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so that's so that's the thing. But in

1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the gay world, he was able to snag a ten. Yeah,

1:17:19.080 --> 1:17:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and he could in a probably normal world if he

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<v Speaker 2>had whatever. I just feel like, you know, gay culture

1:17:24.040 --> 1:17:26.280
<v Speaker 2>is like so because you know, like in Promison, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like there's bare week, there's this like people are so

1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:30.200
<v Speaker 2>into their types and everyone is so different. I don't know,

1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:35.439
<v Speaker 2>there is something like special and so like, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was this thing where I think he wants like physical

1:17:37.680 --> 1:17:41.720
<v Speaker 2>perfection and he is by and he was able to

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<v Speaker 2>find like a physically perfect man to be with, but

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<v Speaker 2>like was not able to do that with women.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, why he attacks like quote unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Weaker women or women with like like disabilities or holding

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<v Speaker 2>a baby or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for him it's just easier, like because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's that Yeah. I think he's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like opportunity and ease.

1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like that's I think that's why, Like with

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<v Speaker 2>the wheelchair woman Colleen, she was so beautiful, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's why he was, Like I thought you would

1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:15.240
<v Speaker 2>be the one like finding people very beautiful but with

1:18:15.320 --> 1:18:18.240
<v Speaker 2>a handicap like that what Chloe Radcliff has a funny joke.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a joint birthmark on her face and she goes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a birthmark.

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<v Speaker 4>No myself, this seems not low enough to fuck you.

1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:25.599
<v Speaker 4>It's like so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it is this thing where like you assume

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<v Speaker 2>someone's gonna be more attainable because of their perceived flaws, right.

1:18:34.960 --> 1:18:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why people get really mad at like

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<v Speaker 2>people that they deem like shouldn't be confident when they're confident,

1:18:40.920 --> 1:18:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Or if like bigger people

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<v Speaker 2>wear certain things like yeah, I think it makes.

1:18:45.040 --> 1:18:47.599
<v Speaker 4>Your life confident, like in like a surprise way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like because they don't they don't have

1:18:50.240 --> 1:18:52.280
<v Speaker 2>it within them, so they're like get mad or like

1:18:52.320 --> 1:18:54.719
<v Speaker 2>don't understand how someone else has it or how someone

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<v Speaker 2>dates or does other things.

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<v Speaker 4>So like I don't know, I don't know. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand this guy. Yeah, no, no, I.

1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Just like I just was like he like like any

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<v Speaker 1>he hates smoking, but he like.

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<v Speaker 4>Goes to his mom's house reeks of cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's he has an interesting pathology. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the crimes. There's a few crimes that

1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:32.280
<v Speaker 1>are floating around. Obviously, nothing is ana to a match here.

1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:37.320
<v Speaker 4>There's one that's really wild like this.

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<v Speaker 1>These crimes took place though September fifteenth of two thousand

1:19:41.240 --> 1:19:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and four, and then this episode aired like November thirtieth

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and four. And I just don't know

1:19:45.760 --> 1:19:48.759
<v Speaker 1>if there's like enough time to like get the news

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<v Speaker 1>over to America because this crime happened in Britain. Had

1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the episode be written, shot and on television in two

1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:58.080
<v Speaker 1>months time like that? But it might just be coincidental,

1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:00.559
<v Speaker 1>or it might be Neil Bair, or it might be

1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Neil Bhar being like write it, let's go, you know.

1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:06.000
<v Speaker 4>But basically this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Gonzalez was known as the Freddy Krueger Killer and

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<v Speaker 1>the Mummies Boy killer, and he was a spree killer

1:20:12.520 --> 1:20:16.320
<v Speaker 1>in Britain who in September, and he wasn't a rapist either,

1:20:16.360 --> 1:20:18.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's a little bit of a different mom. In

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<v Speaker 1>September of two thousand and four, he killed four people

1:20:20.360 --> 1:20:23.280
<v Speaker 1>in two days in London and Sussex. He was inspired

1:20:23.280 --> 1:20:25.639
<v Speaker 1>by Nightmare on Elm Street Friday the thirteenth. He wanted

1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to be like quote unquote a famous serial killer, and

1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he did target elderly and sick people in his stabbing spree.

1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:34.800
<v Speaker 1>He wrote letters to himself using the name Zippy, which

1:20:34.840 --> 1:20:37.200
<v Speaker 1>was like an old nickname of his, and talked about

1:20:37.200 --> 1:20:39.320
<v Speaker 1>how much he loved killing and he said, quote it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best things I've done in my life,

1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and how he's just like Freddy Krueger. His mother had

1:20:43.840 --> 1:20:48.759
<v Speaker 1>previously begged her government representatives in the UK to provide

1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>mental health services for her son and wrote in her

1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:52.719
<v Speaker 1>letter to them, does my son have to commit murder

1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to get help? And then his insanity defense was denied

1:20:55.920 --> 1:20:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and he was given six life sentences in two thousand

1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:00.519
<v Speaker 1>and six, and he eventually was put in to broad

1:21:00.520 --> 1:21:03.320
<v Speaker 1>More Hospital, which is a place we've talked about.

1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:05.760
<v Speaker 4>It's like truly Arkham Asylum. It feels like.

1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like we've talked about broad More, right, it's like

1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the one in the UK that had all these horrific

1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's been shut down now, but way is

1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it still around. It feels like it's like the inspiration

1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:21.080
<v Speaker 1>for like American horror story asylum.

1:21:21.600 --> 1:21:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's still there.

1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:27.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a high security psychiatric hospital, hospital hospital. It was

1:21:27.680 --> 1:21:31.599
<v Speaker 1>not like a fucking media it's a it's a high

1:21:31.640 --> 1:21:35.920
<v Speaker 1>security psychiatric hospital in England. But we've talked about it

1:21:35.960 --> 1:21:39.040
<v Speaker 1>before that it has like it's come under attack for

1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:42.559
<v Speaker 1>not being like the right, Like the conditions are terrible

1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:46.599
<v Speaker 1>and like there's a high level of people with severe

1:21:47.040 --> 1:21:49.400
<v Speaker 1>psychiatric problems. So he took his own life there in

1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:52.360
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven. I think more likely it's based

1:21:52.439 --> 1:21:56.280
<v Speaker 1>on this case. The Centricity rapist. In the summer of

1:21:56.320 --> 1:22:00.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven, four rapes take place in Philadelphia. All

1:22:00.320 --> 1:22:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of them are like home invasions, like a home intruder.

1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Three quarters of them, three out of the four take play, three.

1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Quarters of them.

1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:09.840
<v Speaker 2>My thing changed into a fraction three out of the

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<v Speaker 2>four rapes take place on the same street, so this

1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why this person is so hard to find.

1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:16.160
<v Speaker 4>And then.

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<v Speaker 1>There's these four rapes that happened in ninety seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>then nine months later in May of nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>a graduate student at the Wharton School at the University

1:22:25.640 --> 1:22:28.360
<v Speaker 1>of Pennsylvania my dream school that I did not get into.

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<v Speaker 1>Really I wanted to go there is your dream school.

1:22:32.080 --> 1:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I just like went for a visit and was like,

1:22:34.040 --> 1:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>this place is awesome. Like I went and I had

1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>such a good time, and I had like just the

1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.599
<v Speaker 1>scores and grades to maybe get in there, and I didn't,

1:22:45.760 --> 1:22:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but it made sense to me and this woman that

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<v Speaker 1>Wharton is their business school, famous business school at penn

1:22:52.479 --> 1:22:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And one of the a grad student named Shannon Scheiber,

1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:58.920
<v Speaker 1>was raped and murdered in her Center City apartment and

1:22:59.560 --> 1:23:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the perp was dubbed the Center City rapist at that point.

1:23:02.800 --> 1:23:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Then one more rape was committed in the area in

1:23:04.560 --> 1:23:07.040
<v Speaker 1>August of ninety nine, and then they just didn't find

1:23:07.040 --> 1:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>the guy.

1:23:07.520 --> 1:23:08.639
<v Speaker 4>And the attacks stopped.

1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is sort of like equivalent to them tracking

1:23:12.880 --> 1:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>what Dallas Robert, what Thomas Mathers like was doing the

1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>attacks when he lived in Cleveland, in the attacks when

1:23:18.400 --> 1:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>he lived in Michigan. So then two years later in

1:23:20.960 --> 1:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one, and his whereabouts are a little

1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>bit iffy. In the two years in between, he joined

1:23:26.920 --> 1:23:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the Air Force and stuff like that. But in two

1:23:30.160 --> 1:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, rapes started happening in Fort Collins, Colorado,

1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>same mo mostly home invasions, six total from May to August

1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and one, and they all took place

1:23:40.360 --> 1:23:44.439
<v Speaker 1>around Colorado State University. Meanwhile, in two thousand and one,

1:23:44.680 --> 1:23:48.280
<v Speaker 1>DNA had linked the Fort Collins rapists to the Center

1:23:48.320 --> 1:23:51.599
<v Speaker 1>City rapist, so he's the same person the Center City

1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>rapist has been doing the rapes in uh Fort Collins,

1:23:55.080 --> 1:23:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Colorado and in Philadelphia and to Shannon Scheiber's murder. They

1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>had some fingerprint evidence in one of the Colorado cases,

1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like things were matching up, plus DNA evidence, So then

1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania and Colorado worked together to figure out who had

1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:11.839
<v Speaker 1>the connections, like who lived both in Philadelphia, Fort Collins,

1:24:11.920 --> 1:24:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and like their whereabouts fit the same time of the crimes,

1:24:16.000 --> 1:24:18.639
<v Speaker 1>and they eventually narrowed it down to Troy Graves, who

1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>had joined the Air Force and relocated to Fort Collins

1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:27.519
<v Speaker 1>from Center City, Philadelphia, so he fits and then on

1:24:27.560 --> 1:24:30.559
<v Speaker 1>April twenty third of two thousand and two, the Fort

1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Collins police arrested him and he eventually pled guilty to

1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:36.360
<v Speaker 1>crimes in both cities. He's serving a life sentence without

1:24:36.360 --> 1:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of parole at the Sterling Correctional Facility in Sterling, Colorado.

1:24:40.400 --> 1:24:42.559
<v Speaker 1>He got sixty to one hundred and twenty years in

1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:45.639
<v Speaker 1>prison in Pennsylvania, but will serve his time in Colorado

1:24:45.680 --> 1:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>because he pled guilty there first, and he's never getting out.

1:24:49.560 --> 1:24:52.719
<v Speaker 1>But Shannon Scheiber's rape and murder actually sparked a lot

1:24:52.840 --> 1:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of criticism and investigation of Philadelphia's Special Victims Unit, And

1:24:57.040 --> 1:24:59.439
<v Speaker 1>apparently there was a lot of investigative reporting from the

1:24:59.479 --> 1:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Inquirer real revealing that they were not investigating sex

1:25:03.320 --> 1:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>crimes thoroughly and they had a lot of biases, and

1:25:06.120 --> 1:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>that detectives often wanted to like hide their their errors

1:25:11.960 --> 1:25:15.639
<v Speaker 1>in this by incorrectly classifiy rape reports in a non

1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>criminal category. So it became because of that, it became

1:25:19.040 --> 1:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>harder for them to connect serial attacks, I know. And

1:25:23.000 --> 1:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>so there was there's do you imagine, Yeah, her family were.

1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Being raped and you're like worried about your records, like

1:25:31.160 --> 1:25:31.799
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and the backlash, and then there was a

1:25:36.439 --> 1:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>push from the Women's Law Project of Philadelphia UH to

1:25:41.240 --> 1:25:44.519
<v Speaker 1>investigate and to help improve the city's handling of rape cases,

1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>which they said has actually greatly improved. But of course not, no,

1:25:48.000 --> 1:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it's perfect. There's always more work to be done. But yeah,

1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like her rape and murder. Like her parents also I

1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>think tried to sue the police department because when they arrived,

1:26:00.080 --> 1:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>they didn't enter the apartment immediately because the screaming had stopped,

1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like the screams had been reported were stopped, and they

1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>thought she they thought their daughter may have been alive,

1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and that they were wasting valuable time that they could

1:26:10.800 --> 1:26:14.559
<v Speaker 1>have been like saving her. But another crime, the most

1:26:14.640 --> 1:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>famous crime that this one is being linked to is

1:26:18.560 --> 1:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Richard Speck uh. And it doesn't really track one to

1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>one for me, But I don't think there's another espect

1:26:24.360 --> 1:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>that the name does sound familiar, yes, because it is famous, right,

1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>like and same with as you. I'm like, I know

1:26:30.800 --> 1:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that name, who is that guy? And I like, I

1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:36.439
<v Speaker 1>don't really know the story. This is another crime of

1:26:36.479 --> 1:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the century. This is being called, and I think I

1:26:41.360 --> 1:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>confuse this guy sometimes with Ted Bundy's crimes, but we'll

1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>get into it. Richard Speck had a bit of a

1:26:48.280 --> 1:26:50.559
<v Speaker 1>rough life, like he loved his father, and his father

1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>died when he was little, and then he had an

1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>alcoholic step dad who he hated, but not enough to

1:26:55.880 --> 1:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>stay away from the bottle. He regularly started boozing at

1:26:58.400 --> 1:27:01.400
<v Speaker 1>thirteen and was in tons of trouble his whole life,

1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like robbery, knife fights, this and that. In nineteen sixty six,

1:27:06.160 --> 1:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I believe he's around twenty five years old. He in

1:27:10.160 --> 1:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Monmouth in Monmouth, Illinois. Monmouth, Monmouth, Richard Speck's boyhood hometown,

1:27:16.640 --> 1:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>sixty five year old Virgil Harris was blindfolded, bound and

1:27:20.240 --> 1:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>raped in her home and then robbed of the two

1:27:23.040 --> 1:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>dollars and fifty cents she made babysitting earlier that night.

1:27:27.120 --> 1:27:29.799
<v Speaker 1>And he was never tried for this crime, but items

1:27:29.840 --> 1:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of her were recovered from his home later, So it

1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>seems stands to reason that this is like about when

1:27:36.080 --> 1:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>he started escalating in his crimes. He also there was

1:27:39.720 --> 1:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>also a woman murdered in Monmouth one week later that

1:27:43.520 --> 1:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people believe is tied to him. But

1:27:45.920 --> 1:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>then a couple months after those events, in July of

1:27:48.840 --> 1:27:51.360
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty six, he's staying with his sister and her

1:27:51.400 --> 1:27:57.640
<v Speaker 1>family in the Chicago area. They're in Jefferson Manor neighborhood

1:27:57.720 --> 1:28:00.559
<v Speaker 1>of Chicago. I guess it's super South, is what I

1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>was reading. And eventually his sister and her family are like,

1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:07.479
<v Speaker 1>you got to get out of here, and her brother

1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>in law. His brother in law was trying to get

1:28:09.280 --> 1:28:11.719
<v Speaker 1>him signed up with the Merchant Marines, but he kept

1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>like losing out on the positions on these boats, Like

1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>he had to keep showing up places to be like

1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>can I get on the boat? And they'd be like, no,

1:28:17.880 --> 1:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>not today, And he was pissed. So on July third

1:28:21.800 --> 1:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to on Julu. On July thirteenth, when another assignment didn't

1:28:25.040 --> 1:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>work out, he spent the day day drinking in a bar.

1:28:28.600 --> 1:28:31.439
<v Speaker 1>He meets a woman named Ellame Cooper Age fifty three,

1:28:31.640 --> 1:28:34.120
<v Speaker 1>who'd been drinking at the same bars as Speck. He

1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>took her at knife point back to his room at

1:28:36.800 --> 1:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>an inn, where he rapes her and steals a twenty

1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:42.479
<v Speaker 1>two pistol of hers. So then he leaves his room

1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>dressed in black with a switchblade and a handgun that

1:28:45.120 --> 1:28:47.519
<v Speaker 1>he's just stolen off of his rape victim. After a

1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>few more drinks, at eleven PM, Speck breaks into a

1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>townhouse in Jefferson Manor neighborhood of Chicago. And the townhouse

1:28:55.400 --> 1:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>was a dorm for nursing students at this time. And

1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this is when he enters the home and he goes

1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>on a killing spree. And I think we've all heard

1:29:01.960 --> 1:29:04.759
<v Speaker 1>about this murderer killing all these nursing students.

1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:06.479
<v Speaker 4>I think, in my mind, I don't realize it was

1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:07.080
<v Speaker 4>in one day.

1:29:07.760 --> 1:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think in my mind I just googled him

1:29:10.720 --> 1:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to be like, why do I know him? And then

1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, Chicago, maybe that's why. And then

1:29:14.800 --> 1:29:18.719
<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh, so he like was looking for nurses. Okay,

1:29:19.120 --> 1:29:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it's in one night.

1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in one night, he held these women in a

1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>room for hours, leading them out one by one to

1:29:28.960 --> 1:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>their deaths by either stabbing or strangling. He let twenty

1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to thirty minutes pass between each murder, Like so terrifying.

1:29:37.160 --> 1:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel to take your time like that, and like

1:29:40.040 --> 1:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of like Richard Ramirez, like just like

1:29:42.520 --> 1:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>drinking some.

1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:44.759
<v Speaker 4>Food bar food and the gold.

1:29:44.840 --> 1:29:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I say, yeah, just like taking your time because you're like, oh,

1:29:47.479 --> 1:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>they're never gonna no one's gonna find me, Like, no

1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>one's gonna He killed eight women, Patricia Mattisek, Nina Joe Schmall,

1:29:56.720 --> 1:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Pamela Wilkining, Suzanne Ferris, Maryan Jordan, leda Gargulo and Valentina Passion,

1:30:02.760 --> 1:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and then he raped And I only read about him

1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>raping his last victim, twenty two year old Gloria Davy.

1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's the aid of them. What's wild is corazon

1:30:12.880 --> 1:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>A Muau, another nurse living in the house, was the

1:30:16.960 --> 1:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>only survivor because she managed to crawl and hide under

1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>a bed while Speck was out of the room, and

1:30:22.000 --> 1:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>he possibly lost count with how many of them were

1:30:24.160 --> 1:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>there to begin with. She stayed hidden until six o'clock

1:30:27.280 --> 1:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, and Speck later claimed he was drunk

1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and high at the time of the murder. I think

1:30:33.240 --> 1:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I get this confused, because Ted Bundy did break into

1:30:36.000 --> 1:30:37.639
<v Speaker 1>a sorority house and kill a bunch of.

1:30:37.560 --> 1:30:39.639
<v Speaker 4>Women in one night, and I think I just got them.

1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I And there's a survivor there too, I think, so, yeah, no,

1:30:43.920 --> 1:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>there is, Oh.

1:30:45.120 --> 1:30:46.920
<v Speaker 4>That's right. Did you want Las Bible?

1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, like he seems very you know, Bundy esque

1:30:54.240 --> 1:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But Bundy was like his crumbs like started

1:30:57.400 --> 1:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>ten years later, I think. But Speck was arrested. Varying

1:31:00.960 --> 1:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>reports said he was arrested two to four days later,

1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and his princes match.

1:31:04.800 --> 1:31:05.840
<v Speaker 4>Those found at the house.

1:31:06.360 --> 1:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Also, like Chorussone was a witness like it was him,

1:31:11.720 --> 1:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and a panel of doctors evaluated Speck and deemed him

1:31:14.760 --> 1:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>mentally competent to stand trial. He was trying to argue

1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that he was a sane person, but that he was

1:31:20.479 --> 1:31:22.519
<v Speaker 1>insane at the time of the murders brought on by

1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:25.719
<v Speaker 1>drugs and alcohol, which we've seen before does not really

1:31:25.880 --> 1:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>work as a defense. And while he awaited trial, he

1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>saw a psychiatrist who found out who diagnosed him as

1:31:32.000 --> 1:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>having obsessive compulsive personality disorder as well as a quote

1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>unquote Madonna prostitute outlook on women. And I've met men

1:31:39.000 --> 1:31:42.479
<v Speaker 1>like this before, like he finds. Well, I met men

1:31:42.520 --> 1:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that I feel like put women into two of those categories.

1:31:44.680 --> 1:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>With this man, they said he found women to be

1:31:47.320 --> 1:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>very saintly impure until they did something to like disappoint him,

1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and then he would turn violent, so that could be

1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of like some of the crossover too of the

1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>character in the epist, like besides the besides the number

1:32:03.120 --> 1:32:06.799
<v Speaker 1>of the attacks happening on one night, this isn't very similar.

1:32:06.840 --> 1:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But also this guy in the episode was more of

1:32:10.240 --> 1:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a rapist, and the murder, the one murder he did

1:32:13.240 --> 1:32:15.959
<v Speaker 1>to do, seemed like it happened because of a struggle.

1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>But so Speck goes on trial in April of nineteen

1:32:19.520 --> 1:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven in Puria. The media was calling him a

1:32:22.080 --> 1:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>mass murderer, which at the time was not a common term.

1:32:24.920 --> 1:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously very common today, but at the time, like

1:32:27.760 --> 1:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>mass murderer was not a common phrase, and so that

1:32:31.040 --> 1:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>was like some articles call him like the first mass murderer,

1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>even though he's not. He just it was, I think,

1:32:36.000 --> 1:32:39.479
<v Speaker 1>like when it started to get more popularized. At the trial,

1:32:40.000 --> 1:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the sole surviving nurse, corazon A Morale, got out of

1:32:43.640 --> 1:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>her seat on the stand, walked right up to Spec

1:32:47.400 --> 1:32:50.439
<v Speaker 1>and pointed a finger at him to id him, almost

1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:53.559
<v Speaker 1>touching him. Her finger was so close, and there's like

1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>photos of her entering the courtroom like just such a badass,

1:32:56.439 --> 1:32:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Like to the trauma of listening to eight of your

1:32:59.600 --> 1:33:05.519
<v Speaker 1>friends get murdered and sexually assaulted and to be like,

1:33:05.600 --> 1:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to show up in court and I'm going

1:33:06.960 --> 1:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to fucking id this guy. She was also like an

1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>exchange student from the Philippines along with a cup I

1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>think one or two of the other victims were as well,

1:33:16.680 --> 1:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>so definitely a harrowing experience for her. And it's like

1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>their nurses, these people just want to help people. It's

1:33:25.080 --> 1:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>like so gross. So it took forty nine minutes to

1:33:28.320 --> 1:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>find him guilty. Obviously, he got the death penalty by

1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>electric chair like pretty immediately. But then in nineteen seventy two,

1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:38.439
<v Speaker 1>the death penalty was ruled unconstitutional, so he was re

1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>sentenced to four hundred to twelve hundred years in prison,

1:33:42.760 --> 1:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>which was eight consecutive sentences of fifty to one hundred

1:33:45.920 --> 1:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and fifty years, which was then reduced to one hundred

1:33:49.200 --> 1:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to three hundred years. I don't even understand what is

1:33:51.120 --> 1:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the point of reducing it at that point. But he

1:33:54.400 --> 1:33:57.599
<v Speaker 1>tried for parole seven times. He was denied every time.

1:33:58.560 --> 1:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>From nineteen sixty seven tonight ninety one, he tried to

1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>get parole and was denied every time. And when he

1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>was at the Stateville Correctional Center in Crest Hill, Illinois.

1:34:08.280 --> 1:34:11.479
<v Speaker 1>He was nicknamed the Birdman because he had these two sparrows.

1:34:10.960 --> 1:34:12.640
<v Speaker 4>That came into his cell.

1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>And there the guys who did Minehunter, the guys that

1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>they're based off of. One of them actually has a

1:34:18.360 --> 1:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>story of like this one sparrow was injured and Speck

1:34:21.160 --> 1:34:23.280
<v Speaker 1>like nursed it back to life and then had it

1:34:23.320 --> 1:34:25.519
<v Speaker 1>on its shoulder like I would have it on his

1:34:25.560 --> 1:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>little shoulder, this bird. And then the guards were like,

1:34:28.840 --> 1:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>you can't have a pet. And he took the bird

1:34:30.800 --> 1:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and threw it into a fan to like kill it,

1:34:34.840 --> 1:34:36.439
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, we thought you loved the bird.

1:34:36.479 --> 1:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>He was like, yeah, but if I can't have it,

1:34:37.680 --> 1:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>nobody can. Like Loco Loco in Lacaves.

1:34:43.880 --> 1:34:44.360
<v Speaker 4>This man.

1:34:45.520 --> 1:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So he hated the press and he only gave one

1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>interview in nineteen seventy eight to a Chicago Tribune columnist

1:34:51.920 --> 1:34:54.479
<v Speaker 1>named Bob Green, and in that interview he confessed to

1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the murders first time publicly. He Speck died of a

1:34:57.720 --> 1:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>heart attack the day before he turned fifty and nineteen

1:35:00.120 --> 1:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>ninety one, but that wasn't the last of him. In

1:35:03.000 --> 1:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, a Chicago News anchor named Bill Curtis,

1:35:07.400 --> 1:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>any recollection of this news anchor, Lisa, I don't know.

1:35:10.280 --> 1:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>If maybe he was like Bill Curdis, Bill Curtis, it

1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>would have to be by face.

1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Let's see Curtis with a k hmm. No, okay, No,

1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:20.479
<v Speaker 4>he's not hitting for me. Okay.

1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, he receives in the mail videotapes anonymously sent by

1:35:25.800 --> 1:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>an anonymous lawyer that are videos that were taken inside

1:35:29.000 --> 1:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the Stateville prison showing the inmates going absolutely ham like,

1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:39.679
<v Speaker 1>doing cocaine, rolling joints, flashing fat stacks of cash, and

1:35:40.080 --> 1:35:42.720
<v Speaker 1>there's footage of Richard Speck's in the middle of all

1:35:42.760 --> 1:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of it.

1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:43.680
<v Speaker 4>He's in the middle like.

1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:46.959
<v Speaker 1>There's footage of him giving oral sex to other inmates,

1:35:47.000 --> 1:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>doing all this coke like whatever. And he says right

1:35:49.320 --> 1:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to the camera, if they only knew how much fun

1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I was having, they would turn me loose. So he

1:35:55.160 --> 1:35:59.240
<v Speaker 1>also in these tapes brags about his murders and says, quote,

1:35:59.320 --> 1:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>strangle up her. It ain't like you see on TV.

1:36:02.080 --> 1:36:03.519
<v Speaker 1>You have to go at it for about three and

1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:06.479
<v Speaker 1>a half minutes. It takes a lot of strength. So

1:36:07.360 --> 1:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>thankfully this crazy man is not on our planet any longer.

1:36:11.200 --> 1:36:16.479
<v Speaker 2>But they definitely had to take a one night like

1:36:16.600 --> 1:36:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I don't understand how nobody heard screaming

1:36:20.680 --> 1:36:21.240
<v Speaker 2>or anything.

1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:24.360
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he had them all bound really quickly. I don't know.

1:36:24.680 --> 1:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but yeah, he is to me, very infamous.

1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>But I just forgot that he was the guy that

1:36:30.680 --> 1:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>did these nursing murders. And I don't know a lot

1:36:36.960 --> 1:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of anger in a man like that, I don't know,

1:36:39.240 --> 1:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>but he was they had to look into like. It

1:36:42.360 --> 1:36:44.559
<v Speaker 1>made the It made the prison system in the area

1:36:44.560 --> 1:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>look really bad obviously, that these psychopaths were like living

1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:51.760
<v Speaker 1>it up and like partying in jail, so definitely made

1:36:51.800 --> 1:36:53.519
<v Speaker 1>them take a second look and crack down.

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<v Speaker 4>I think. So that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have no guests today, so I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>could just move on to post mortem. Okay, so no

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<v Speaker 1>guests today. I don't think Amanda Plummer. I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of her showing up to the Emmys where she

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<v Speaker 1>won the award for this role, so I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she was gonna do our podcast. But it's about the work,

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<v Speaker 1>about the work. I did love that there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many people if we've interviewed on the pod in this episode, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>And just so everybody knows I am recording from a

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<v Speaker 2>bed because my hotel room does not have a desk

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<v Speaker 2>or a table. It's like, that's great, they should probably

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<v Speaker 2>put that on the thing. I just not even have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby table by the couch, like I would have

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<v Speaker 2>sat on the couch. But I don't even know if

1:37:48.280 --> 1:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>there's plugs and there's no table, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I like want to reach my iced coffee. Where are

1:37:55.320 --> 1:37:57.960
<v Speaker 4>you putting things down? Yeah? Where's your coffee? Like on

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<v Speaker 4>a pillow?

1:37:59.160 --> 1:38:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I put it on a there there's little circles here. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like little circles. Oh, there's like tiny little circle tables. Yeah,

1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:10.160
<v Speaker 2>on the sides. I mean, it is a hotel. I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy I've stayed in this company's hotels across the nation,

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<v Speaker 2>like I do. I enjoy their stuff. But yeah, definitely

1:38:17.439 --> 1:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>not for for work. But I want the coffee, but

1:38:19.960 --> 1:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I have to fully lean over this bed, like but

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<v Speaker 2>I just want a little sip.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to sip.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm attached to the zoom recorder and the howards

1:38:29.320 --> 1:38:34.120
<v Speaker 2>are touching and then they buzz. It's like oh, and

1:38:34.120 --> 1:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>then I don't want Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that was the lean of the century.

1:38:43.640 --> 1:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this episode is such a classic. I'm so

1:38:47.120 --> 1:38:50.559
<v Speaker 1>terrific cover it. It's so horrible. I can't believe they

1:38:50.560 --> 1:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>got Dallas Roberts as like a horrible rapist twice, Like

1:38:56.040 --> 1:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>they didn't even switch it up for him, like he

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<v Speaker 1>was a rapist one time. Uh self hating, homophobic, uh

1:39:03.320 --> 1:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>rapist of women who are like injured in some way,

1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:10.639
<v Speaker 1>like they're they're in a wheelchair or on crutches or

1:39:10.760 --> 1:39:14.839
<v Speaker 1>this Amanda Plumber's poor character is like stuffering with mental.

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<v Speaker 2>Ill Schizophrenia is one of my biggest fears. I think

1:39:18.280 --> 1:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I've I've knock on wood past the age where I

1:39:22.280 --> 1:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>could get it.

1:39:22.920 --> 1:39:24.000
<v Speaker 4>But you never know.

1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>You're one drug trip away, yeah, one drug trip away

1:39:28.200 --> 1:39:32.600
<v Speaker 2>from losing all tethers to reality. Yeah, one of my

1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:36.640
<v Speaker 2>biggest fears, Like you, what you think is happening isn't happening,

1:39:36.760 --> 1:39:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Like what the fuck?

1:39:38.479 --> 1:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I had an uncle who had schizophrenia, and he was

1:39:43.400 --> 1:39:45.720
<v Speaker 1>so funny. I loved being around him when I was

1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like a kid, and I loved him.

1:39:47.400 --> 1:39:50.679
<v Speaker 4>But you know, his life was hard. His life was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it was hard to hold a job and

1:39:54.520 --> 1:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, stay on, like because then you say, you

1:39:56.880 --> 1:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>get on your medication, you're you're feeling more lucid and

1:40:00.040 --> 1:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're like I don't need this and you get

1:40:01.400 --> 1:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>off and it's like, you know, it's really really.

1:40:04.920 --> 1:40:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Because my thing too is like it's always bad stuff.

1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:12.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like always terrorisms or molecules or like gangs are

1:40:12.479 --> 1:40:15.479
<v Speaker 2>after you or bugs are crawling around, Like does anyone

1:40:15.600 --> 1:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>have ideations that are like fun?

1:40:20.880 --> 1:40:22.599
<v Speaker 4>I can see and yeah, like this.

1:40:24.040 --> 1:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Over the depths of darkness, Like why can't we just

1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>have like a fun or schizophrenia? Let us know if

1:40:31.200 --> 1:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>that's possible where you're actually seeing like awesome things. I'm

1:40:36.840 --> 1:40:42.760
<v Speaker 2>curious if that's a possibility for this illness. But thank

1:40:42.840 --> 1:40:45.200
<v Speaker 2>god everyone pushed through and then she's dead in the end.

1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>That's like that's the worst gut punch.

1:40:47.400 --> 1:40:54.519
<v Speaker 1>I would say that killed live and uh yeah, I

1:40:54.640 --> 1:40:58.760
<v Speaker 1>later Live has better interactions with doctor Elizabeth Hendricks, but

1:40:59.760 --> 1:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in one she's like keep it in your pants, maloney

1:41:02.680 --> 1:41:07.599
<v Speaker 1>or uh stabler, like she's really not hiding it, and

1:41:07.640 --> 1:41:10.559
<v Speaker 1>then to have her she's pissed at her partner. She

1:41:10.600 --> 1:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like this lady all this shit's going on, and

1:41:13.160 --> 1:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>then to have her one of her victims die in

1:41:16.439 --> 1:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the end. Not not a great Again, we can't let

1:41:19.000 --> 1:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Olivia be happy or get a win, but it's it

1:41:24.479 --> 1:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>was an amazing performance.

1:41:25.720 --> 1:41:29.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean one of who else won? Who else has

1:41:29.360 --> 1:41:31.160
<v Speaker 4>won for.

1:41:31.160 --> 1:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Best Guest Cynthia Nixon, Amanda Plummer, the one who was

1:41:37.200 --> 1:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>like the French accent Isabelle lupire No, the one that's

1:41:44.400 --> 1:41:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like Lena, uh not Lena Allen, Leslie Caron, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:41:52.960 --> 1:41:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Neil Bert getting the ladies his Emmy their Emmy's.

1:41:56.479 --> 1:41:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they don't look at SVU anymore for

1:41:58.760 --> 1:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Emmy's because it's just been on for so long. But

1:42:00.960 --> 1:42:04.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think there's really great guest stars on there

1:42:04.320 --> 1:42:07.240
<v Speaker 1>they should give it. But you know, guest star Emmy's,

1:42:07.280 --> 1:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, is more of a money play campaign.

1:42:09.880 --> 1:42:11.639
<v Speaker 4>Like it's always super famous people.

1:42:11.640 --> 1:42:14.720
<v Speaker 1>It's never like an amazing actress who like nails it,

1:42:14.760 --> 1:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's like her third thing she's ever done, you know.

1:42:17.400 --> 1:42:21.439
<v Speaker 2>I just honestly, I'm like so giddy about heated rivalry

1:42:21.479 --> 1:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>being back at work.

1:42:22.600 --> 1:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't actually my friends saying that my friend that

1:42:28.000 --> 1:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm staying with was like, yeah, my feet is all

1:42:29.960 --> 1:42:32.479
<v Speaker 1>heated rivalry, and we were talking about the show and stuff,

1:42:32.479 --> 1:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh yeah, my co host of

1:42:35.080 --> 1:42:38.320
<v Speaker 1>my podcast is deep in yeah, like.

1:42:38.560 --> 1:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I think some people thought it would go away, like

1:42:40.439 --> 1:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I think this is for life, but who knows?

1:42:42.520 --> 1:42:43.040
<v Speaker 4>Who knows?

1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, Let's move on to what would

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Peg do? Our weekly segment where we direct you

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<v Speaker 1>towards an organization, a documentary, a an article, something to

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<v Speaker 1>just give you more information about what we talked about

1:42:58.840 --> 1:43:02.639
<v Speaker 1>in today's episode. And I mentioned this organization and I

1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:04.679
<v Speaker 1>really think what they do is awesome. But the Women's

1:43:04.760 --> 1:43:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Law Project, they were the ones that got everybody to

1:43:08.560 --> 1:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>look at how the case in Philadelphia of the case

1:43:12.880 --> 1:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of the woman who was the Wharton student who was

1:43:14.960 --> 1:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>raped by the Center City rapists and murdered was handled

1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>by Philadelphia SVU, and how they were totally misclassifying their

1:43:22.439 --> 1:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>cases and not doing things by the book and improving

1:43:26.160 --> 1:43:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the SVU.

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<v Speaker 4>There and hopefully everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>The Women's Law Project is a non profit, public interest

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<v Speaker 1>legal organization working to defend and advance the rights of women, girls,

1:43:36.520 --> 1:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and LGBTQ plus people in Pennsylvania and beyond. They are

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<v Speaker 1>the largest state based law center addressing the rights of women, girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and LGBTQ plus people. And according to the project, they

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<v Speaker 1>quote leverage impact, litigation, policy, advocacy, public education, and direct

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<v Speaker 1>assistance and representation to dismantle discriminatory laws, policies, and practices

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<v Speaker 1>and eradicate institutional biases and unfair treatment based on sex

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. And they obviously have a lot of work

1:44:03.360 --> 1:44:05.439
<v Speaker 1>ahead of them because things have gotten better, but they

1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:08.639
<v Speaker 1>are still bad. So for more info or to donate,

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<v Speaker 1>head over to Women's Law Project dot org. That will

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