Speaker 1: Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy
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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Tuesday, This Tuesday, right, yes, sir? Two more
Speaker 1: days till game Day Friday and Jason Garrett's World Yeah Friday, Friday.
Speaker 1: As far as the schedule goes, how are you fellas doing?
Speaker 1: And I'm doing good man, Yeah, I'm doing good man.
Speaker 1: I see you got a whole lot more towards the
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Speaker 1: skin is Santa Claus. I know, ho ho ho he
Speaker 1: talking to you, Kurt. I'm not the one bearing gifts. Yeah, many, Kurt.
Speaker 1: Cool guys too. You know you're kind of mellowed, all right?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jay? Thanks Jay. Speaking of let's you want
Speaker 1: to take calls again today? That's on you, my friend.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a weird week, faired week,
Speaker 1: and you know, and one thing I like about this
Speaker 1: show is we started out on the grind. We started
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Speaker 1: What about the Redskins? Nate? Hold on? Hold on? Oh well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna wait till we come out of the
Speaker 1: break for that. Okay, all right, we got we got
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Speaker 1: Don't tell me you're gonna try to do it. Fell on.
Speaker 1: Keep these type things, you know, like babo heads and
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Speaker 1: your desk and trying to get the guys to sign them.
Speaker 1: Over the years, that'd be nice. Maybe he'll put that
Speaker 1: helmet on my desk. Oh, could happen? I might have
Speaker 1: an extra one? You know what? You know what, man,
Speaker 1: we always forget about old Sir Douglas. We try some
Speaker 1: of us. One of us does whoa you? Kurt? No? Hey,
Speaker 1: where are you taking this show today? Young man? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't know wherever the wind blows. I had a
Speaker 1: question for Sir Douglas. We always have a little pregame meet,
Speaker 1: and I said, and I just looked at him. I
Speaker 1: got two questions. The first one was why are we
Speaker 1: not good? Why at this point in day? Why are
Speaker 1: we not good today? Now? The first question was would
Speaker 1: you like one of these cookies? No? Okay? And the
Speaker 1: next question full disclosure right. And the next question I
Speaker 1: asked was how many teams that above five hundred right
Speaker 1: now that Philadelphia has played. We'll answer that right now.
Speaker 1: How many has Philadelphia played? Don't look it up right now?
Speaker 1: Top of here is three, four, five, one, two? How
Speaker 1: many teams have they played? Right now? They are ten
Speaker 1: and one? Yeah, you can, you can guess. It's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with one. Let's see, they played the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They were five hundred at the time. Chiefs were five
Speaker 1: hundred at the time technically, but they beat the Chiefs
Speaker 1: beating them right, yeah, that's true. Um, who else they played? Washington?
Speaker 1: No Giants, No, we're gonna take a guess, or you
Speaker 1: want to look at your competing I'll go to just
Speaker 1: to be different from Channing. They beat one team. That's
Speaker 1: the pain, Thank you, thank you, But well, okay, what's
Speaker 1: you kind of got it to? Uh? And I was
Speaker 1: listening to the guys, you know, in one of your
Speaker 1: local stations. I was I was saying, this is how
Speaker 1: you get momentum and you build it. That's what we
Speaker 1: did last year. We had a third place team, we
Speaker 1: got thirteen and three. We come into this year here, uh, suspension, injuries,
Speaker 1: and have we been built to sustain that? And when
Speaker 1: I asked her Douglas the question, why why are we
Speaker 1: not good right now? What was your answer, Sir Douglas,
Speaker 1: I said, we built this team on first round draft picks,
Speaker 1: on the offensive line and on Zeke Elliott. And when
Speaker 1: a couple of those pieces aren't there, it's tough to
Speaker 1: to do what you're built to do. And we haven't
Speaker 1: had Zeke or Tyring most of the time, and then
Speaker 1: when Tyring gets back, Zach Martin goes out, and then
Speaker 1: when he throws Sean Lee in the mix. He was
Speaker 1: a second round pick. I mean, a lot of our
Speaker 1: a lot of our investment isn't on the field right
Speaker 1: now now, And he went We went back to what
Speaker 1: to the two thousand and ten draft? Was it all
Speaker 1: the way back through the two thousand so? I think so.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is one Bury Church in
Speaker 1: a few of those other guys with that group that
Speaker 1: are not here either, right, we either have given away
Speaker 1: the core of our team or injury has gotten the
Speaker 1: core of our team. Go back to two When did
Speaker 1: Barry Church get here? Was it two thousand and ten
Speaker 1: or two thousand and nine? He was an undrafted free agent?
Speaker 1: Undrafted free agent, so he was he was a part
Speaker 1: of that core, believe it or not. JJ Wilcox twenty
Speaker 1: five and under plays. You couldn't find a harder hitting,
Speaker 1: roving type guy. He's gone. Brandon Carr, we got him
Speaker 1: out of free agency. What about five years ago? You know,
Speaker 1: nobody liked him. He never covered good enough, even though
Speaker 1: he always covered the best receiver on another team. I'm
Speaker 1: saying why are we not good right now? Today? They
Speaker 1: have drafted guys through and they have brought in free
Speaker 1: agents that have hit. Now we maybe was not at
Speaker 1: the time thrilled about these guys, are overly excited about
Speaker 1: these guys. But now that we've gotten rid of Tyrell McClain,
Speaker 1: gotten rid of the Church, let JJ Willcox go. Let
Speaker 1: Brandon car go. Let even more Claiborne go. That's six
Speaker 1: guys that are not on your defense right now. Now.
Speaker 1: You got Tyron has been hurt. You got Sean Lee
Speaker 1: that's hurt right now, you got no Zeke. That's eight
Speaker 1: players that starters that is no longer on your team.
Speaker 1: Why are we not good right now? Starting with the
Speaker 1: especially on the defense. I think we've kind of been
Speaker 1: overlooking how bad they did in free agency this year. Um,
Speaker 1: the cart, the car how bad they didn't free agency
Speaker 1: this year. They let all those guys go they got
Speaker 1: they basically got nothing back. You know that Nolan Carroll
Speaker 1: didn't work out there is gone is gone. They signed
Speaker 1: that safety Uh he didn't make it out of camp. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean they just got They basically had nothing out
Speaker 1: of free agencies. That's really hurt them in the secondary,
Speaker 1: especially you know, even even if we had Zeke, we
Speaker 1: were we were always gonna be teetering on one or
Speaker 1: two games. We we just wouldn't know, you know, we
Speaker 1: just you know, even with Zeke, we was five and three,
Speaker 1: and one thing. One thing that I liked about having
Speaker 1: Zeke it assured us a beating the teams we're supposed
Speaker 1: to beat, But it was gonna be a dog fight
Speaker 1: against everybody else. And you know, I'm not an excuse guy,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying to myself, I'm not an idiot either.
Speaker 1: You can't win with a secondary that we have now
Speaker 1: due to the matter of fact, no experience, and the
Speaker 1: experience that we do have is struggling. So even if
Speaker 1: we had the fearsome Forsom up front, teams Willa Siby
Speaker 1: to complete and throw passes on us. That's how you
Speaker 1: get touchdowns. Yeah, it's so It's if I was looking
Speaker 1: at how many big plays they've given up in the
Speaker 1: last three games. It's kind of scary. Yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to name them because I'm just saying the reality of it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I was selling Shannon doing training camp.
Speaker 1: I wish all these guys were healthy. I wish every
Speaker 1: corner in safety was healthy because and if they could
Speaker 1: have came out of training camp and I'm I'm forget
Speaker 1: the glass half full, you know, half empty. I believe
Speaker 1: that if these guys would have came out of training
Speaker 1: camp on their legs running, we would have been we'd
Speaker 1: have been a better secondary right now. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: gotta believe it. I can't believe that you drafted four
Speaker 1: guys and none of them can't play right. You know,
Speaker 1: so many big plays, but in the last three games
Speaker 1: they passed plays of at least twenty yards, they've given
Speaker 1: up thirteen. That includes four of at least thirty and
Speaker 1: two forty yarders and maybe even worse. Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1: third in the league with forty five completions of at
Speaker 1: least twenty yards and then the last game he had
Speaker 1: that they played that he had four completions twenty Amison
Speaker 1: crowder bro he was trying to find itself against us,
Speaker 1: but he found himself against the Giants and he finally
Speaker 1: got an end zone. Yeah, he had a i think
Speaker 1: at twenty yarder and a forty yarder against us in
Speaker 1: the first game. So yeah, you want to know a
Speaker 1: scary stat was that Wow, I was over here doing
Speaker 1: the last three games Atlanta, Philly and San Diego. First
Speaker 1: half Cowboys have been outscored twenty to sixteen. Been in
Speaker 1: pretty much every game right second half. They've been outscored
Speaker 1: seventy two to six in the second half of the
Speaker 1: last three games. Yeah, it's ridiculous. How does that happen?
Speaker 1: Is that just getting exposed, Nate? Is that just that? Is? Uh?
Speaker 1: That that is? That is guy's getting stressed? You know
Speaker 1: that is guys that lack of confidence. Are they trying
Speaker 1: to do too much? They start freak? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta ask the coaches or ask a
Speaker 1: player that I give you an honest opinion. You know
Speaker 1: what saying? Man, I asked you about the scheme. I
Speaker 1: ain't asking you what's your game plan? My question is simple,
Speaker 1: is right here this guy's trying to do too much? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they have nine time I tend a player or
Speaker 1: be honest for that. I think that you need a spark.
Speaker 1: It's always somebody got to spark you. And I'm hoping
Speaker 1: d Law can come up big. I'm hoping, uh uh.
Speaker 1: And this is what I worried about Irving and Irving
Speaker 1: then went to sleep on us again. You know that's
Speaker 1: what my asking us. Man, you're gonna go there, You're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna play pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1: You know, started out great. Yeah, and he's went to
Speaker 1: sleep on us. How many sacks did they have the
Speaker 1: last three games? Kirk none, zero, last game none. I
Speaker 1: think one over the last three. One turnover in the
Speaker 1: last three. I mean, it's just I don't get you
Speaker 1: just don't went dead man. You get to play footballs
Speaker 1: And people said, well they played better teams. But if
Speaker 1: you this is when you try to be the best
Speaker 1: when you play better teams. I mean, you may not
Speaker 1: have uh as many as uh hits for losses in
Speaker 1: the back fo we try to have some, you know,
Speaker 1: y'all you ought to be able to you know, get
Speaker 1: you hitching has been playing, hitching, Hitch has been hitch
Speaker 1: has been been thumping. You know, Uh, come on in
Speaker 1: and make if you get a chance, man surely like
Speaker 1: to have you. Uh, Okay, do what you gotta do
Speaker 1: and come on back. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blame no injuries. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: believe in that, right, there. Every team have injuries. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna believe it, believe that we just that bad
Speaker 1: a team. I gotta believe that our confidence is waning.
Speaker 1: And uh and and it just I always look for
Speaker 1: what makes sense, and we've lost a lot of players.
Speaker 1: Ain't time about just injury. The injuries is a part
Speaker 1: of them. We lost some key components that we didn't value.
Speaker 1: That's that's us as fans. And let it just let
Speaker 1: just management. Now it was us as fans. Nobody loved
Speaker 1: on Tyrrell mcclan. Nobody just was overjawed with Church when
Speaker 1: nobody overjawed spelling with more Clayborne. Oh he'll be hurt again,
Speaker 1: you know, but nobody you know JJ Willcocks, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: if he can just keep his head up. He takes
Speaker 1: bad angles. But when he played twenty five of less plays,
Speaker 1: he was a force. So now we don't. We have
Speaker 1: these young guys that's trying to learn and and and
Speaker 1: and it is what it is. It's the pain of growing.
Speaker 1: It's the pain of growing. Maybe let all those guys go.
Speaker 1: They you know, I heard uh uh guy Espn used
Speaker 1: to be the coach for the Eagles. Herm at words,
Speaker 1: he said something that made so much sense. Kurt. He said, uh,
Speaker 1: he said, I understand this. When you sign a quarterback
Speaker 1: for one hundred a million more dollars, you better make
Speaker 1: sure he can tout your team because if he can't
Speaker 1: touch your team, did you better start two years before
Speaker 1: you give him a hundred million dollars because you will
Speaker 1: have to go exclusively almost to the draft. If you don't,
Speaker 1: you're gonna just pick up garbage. And what is the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys They gave brom All that Money's what you're
Speaker 1: saying Joe Flacco? They won a super Bowl. They thought
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco was that quarterback. What has the Ravens done
Speaker 1: since they gave him one hundred million dollars. It's only
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks in this league. And I keep telling people,
Speaker 1: it's only five quarterbacks in this league that can say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: jump on my back and I'll let y'all off when
Speaker 1: we get in the playoffs. Yeah, maybe five. The rest
Speaker 1: of them are just guys, you know. And that's and
Speaker 1: that's what the red Skins are scared of with Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Even though Kirk Cousins is lighting the world on fire,
Speaker 1: they know that once they say five years, one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five seventy five thousand guaranteed they go free
Speaker 1: agency as they know it and we know it now.
Speaker 1: You better be drafting right on time every year. And
Speaker 1: when we paid Tony Romo, it freed up some cap money.
Speaker 1: But did we didn't see this injury coming? Yea real anthony.
Speaker 1: You're still there, brother, No I am. What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: What's up? Fellas going on? Y'all right? All right, um,
Speaker 1: let's do it quick. Um from the TV shows to
Speaker 1: all of your shows. These guys shows to break everybody.
Speaker 1: Every i's talking about what they think. It's a problem. Man.
Speaker 1: It's simple when you when you use the principle of
Speaker 1: my offense is gonna be my best defense, my offense
Speaker 1: is gonna be so good it's gonna keep my defense
Speaker 1: off the fieldings and that when key cards or your
Speaker 1: offense go down, you're gonna have a major problem. It's
Speaker 1: just like a leader in the classroom, the top student
Speaker 1: or something. The morale kind of goes down and things
Speaker 1: like that. And that's all because second half begin to
Speaker 1: blow it out of games. Of course, we don't have
Speaker 1: the elite pass Russia, and that's that's that safety though,
Speaker 1: the two things I knew on the defense that we needed.
Speaker 1: If we could have gotten strength that safety, you know,
Speaker 1: a better safety, Pro Bowl or whatever, and elite pass rusher,
Speaker 1: I think we would make the team complete with Zeke
Speaker 1: or whoever. But when you use that principle and you
Speaker 1: use key guys, I think the chief entries during the season.
Speaker 1: After you lose guys like ze you got problems. And
Speaker 1: that's all that happened. So guys just got to do more.
Speaker 1: They got to step up, and they gotta do more
Speaker 1: than Thank you man, Thanks Anthony. That was great man.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I I don't disagree with Anthony.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Alfred Morris is not trash.
Speaker 1: Rod Smith is not trash. If these guys weren't gaining
Speaker 1: any yards, I get it, I get being blown out
Speaker 1: in the second half. But these guys, these guys are
Speaker 1: solid running backs. Are they Zeke? No, they're not Zeke,
Speaker 1: but they're solid. You shouldn't be this big of a
Speaker 1: dropper you've got You've got decent players. It's not like you.
Speaker 1: You know, the receivers aren't really stepping up, but they're
Speaker 1: still not trash. They're not dropping every single ball. They're
Speaker 1: dropping balls at key moments of the game. I don't
Speaker 1: understand how one guy on offense, one guy on defense,
Speaker 1: and then it's like everybody forgets how to play football.
Speaker 1: Get I'm gonna tell you something, man, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you one hundred percent, Shannon. The only other,
Speaker 1: only other deal is it's guys lost confidence. I mean
Speaker 1: you know that quit are they quit? Nah? You don't
Speaker 1: play the same way. You're discouraged. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: have the same amount of effort. You know, you out there,
Speaker 1: you're trying to do what you think is bad. So
Speaker 1: you think you're doing something specially you look back in
Speaker 1: a Wow, that's me. It takes a special type guy
Speaker 1: or a special group of guys. But like he said,
Speaker 1: like my last caller said, leader, well that leader got
Speaker 1: to emerge. You know, you got you gotta be to
Speaker 1: the point where you even jealous that somebody would mention
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. You know you know what I'm showing Lee.
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna take over. I'm I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: a play within the scheme. I'm gonna make a play.
Speaker 1: If it comes to me today, I got it. You know,
Speaker 1: if a Blues ball up, I got it. If interception
Speaker 1: that I got it, you know it, don't take but
Speaker 1: one or two plays, you know, when that opportunity arises
Speaker 1: and you take advantage of you. Yeah, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, be very careful this is. This is for
Speaker 1: the fans. Be very careful using the word quit, because
Speaker 1: these guys have a lot of pride and they they
Speaker 1: take their job very seriously. And there's a difference between
Speaker 1: quit and like Nate said, getting discouraged. Yea quit is
Speaker 1: a very That's probably one of the worst words you
Speaker 1: can use to a pro athlete is using the word quit.
Speaker 1: So when you're talking to your buddies at the bar
Speaker 1: and when you're talking you know football, just know that
Speaker 1: you know, and this may come back and bite me
Speaker 1: in the ass one day, but you know, just know
Speaker 1: that there's a big difference in quit. These guys take
Speaker 1: pride in what they do and no matter how bad
Speaker 1: they get, beat the efforts. Usually usually there let me
Speaker 1: sities right here. You know, I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: you've pumped up, you're doing all the best work you can.
Speaker 1: You know, you know you, oh man, it is you
Speaker 1: another guy, your your your your paper, stack up your
Speaker 1: paper stack up all of a sudden. Other guy getting
Speaker 1: raised for like three or four days a monitude. You
Speaker 1: you just you're doing your job, but there ain't nothing special.
Speaker 1: Ain't the paper ain't stacking up no more? Have you quit? Right?
Speaker 1: Have you quit? You at work? Discouraged? Yeah? Doing your job,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but as you're going over the top again.
Speaker 1: And that's a great analogy. Yeah, it's it's great. You know.
Speaker 1: One thing I told my wife one time. She came
Speaker 1: with all this wild stuff out of nowhere one time
Speaker 1: and I started asking these same questions, Well, what about
Speaker 1: I remember when you said this to me and what
Speaker 1: happened there? Did you quit? No? I ain't quit what
Speaker 1: you just discouraged? Right? Yeah, you just want fitting it
Speaker 1: for a period of time. Yeah, I say, uh, what
Speaker 1: if that was your brother? Better? Still, what if that
Speaker 1: was your husband? Which is me that they're saying that about,
Speaker 1: how would you feel you would do? Like Coldb's the
Speaker 1: wife and defended right? You see what I'm saying. So, uh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna stay human. They just it's just that in
Speaker 1: society we've made them super human, right, you know, but
Speaker 1: they're still a human. We just made them super human
Speaker 1: and don't believe me. Like I said, I every day, man,
Speaker 1: Like I meet with Douglas every day for at least
Speaker 1: at least two minutes, just going in, sit out and
Speaker 1: ask him a question, you know, because if you could talk,
Speaker 1: it bothers me that we're not good. And that's all
Speaker 1: I ever talk about. Before we go to a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I would like to have two or three ten wins
Speaker 1: seasons or more. That way, when we win that super Bowl,
Speaker 1: we know the next year we're still gonna have ten wins.
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing worse than the world. And like I tell people,
Speaker 1: guys that come into gym jacked up, who whoo, whoo whoo.
Speaker 1: Then about an hour later, then over there, man, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what's happening. Whatever you took didn't last. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm still over here lifting and you over there
Speaker 1: about to die because you got to build a foundation
Speaker 1: and and and we let we let thirty percent afore
Speaker 1: the Centi Foundation get out to right, Let's go to
Speaker 1: the voice of hanging with the boys, Jay and Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: What's up, Jay, Jay? What's up? And what's up? Fellas
Speaker 1: you go Potty Kirk Dad, you know, mister, what's up?
Speaker 1: Jas Oh man, just waiting to hear from you this week.
Speaker 1: What's going on with you? And what's going on? Gott
Speaker 1: a question, Jay, got a question? What have you eaten today? Oh?
Speaker 1: You know, I actually asked him Chinese food today, the
Speaker 1: Chinese food capital of the world. No, No, it's not
Speaker 1: the Chinese food capital of the world. I just kind
Speaker 1: of had a yain for it. I haven't had it,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, you know, you're gonna mix it up
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, it's kind of like our offense.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, guys, I'm just if there's one
Speaker 1: good thing about all this stuff. We've got rid of
Speaker 1: all the bandwagon fans, let me tell you that. And
Speaker 1: I'm just here to defend dak all these people you
Speaker 1: know that are just destroying them online. You know, you
Speaker 1: can just kiss my butt, all right, you know, at
Speaker 1: least like Hack, you know, at least I've all his
Speaker 1: career interceptions, maybe eight and nine of them have gone
Speaker 1: through receivers hands and in to the defensive backs hands,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, And I just you know, I just
Speaker 1: the thing that bothered me about Thursday's game is, you know,
Speaker 1: I just didn't see any fire in their eyes. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they quit like Nate said, they're discouraged. I
Speaker 1: mean a Winton you know what I'm saying. Remember that
Speaker 1: play when you know the whistle blue for three seconds
Speaker 1: and then they twirled them and smashed them on the
Speaker 1: ground and they didn't even throw a flag and nobody
Speaker 1: got mad, you know, like nobody good angry, you know.
Speaker 1: And And have you guys ever heard of a like
Speaker 1: a team like second guests and their coaching in the
Speaker 1: middle of you know, well the second third of the season,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I've been I'm forty seven years old,
Speaker 1: and I've never heard a team, you know, like just
Speaker 1: come out and say, you know, like just talking about
Speaker 1: their coaches. And I just would you know, life to
Speaker 1: know what you guys think about that? Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard that? No? Man, Yeah sir, but uh you know
Speaker 1: what these guys they they're not gonna do that. Thanks Jay,
Speaker 1: Jay Great? Great, Jay Great. Maybe we had two serious callers.
Speaker 1: I first guy was his name, the real Anthem, Real
Speaker 1: Anthy great with the leadership talk. Uh my man, Jay here, man, Jay,
Speaker 1: this group here believes in the coach. But you know,
Speaker 1: Kurt helped me here. I hate to say, I swear
Speaker 1: I hate to say this. They planned the best they
Speaker 1: can play on defense. I think they are, you know
Speaker 1: what they are. But you know, to Jay's point, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about how Daz is calm and he's found
Speaker 1: this interview and something. You know what, I'm back to
Speaker 1: the point scream at somebody, you know, whenever they whenever
Speaker 1: they drove Dak out of bounds and grabbed his face. Bath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see one of those dirty offensive lineman
Speaker 1: come over and knocked the snot out of somebody. Give
Speaker 1: me you give me some fire like. Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: You're discouraged, you're you're you're not confident, but show like
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm talking about. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, man, But but you know what they're Coaching't
Speaker 1: like that he keeps it calm. Yeah, it's all. It's this,
Speaker 1: you know if he I've been sitting here looking at
Speaker 1: this thing, Tommy John, Tommy John add no adjustments, needments, adjustment, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Wow, what do you think, Kurt?
Speaker 1: I know if this is Garrett's message right, and that
Speaker 1: it's really why I like it. And he's calm, he
Speaker 1: doesn't get bent out of shape. And if he's mad,
Speaker 1: he's mad at a ref. He's not mad at his guys,
Speaker 1: and he's positive reinforcement. But at some point I would
Speaker 1: like to see the players. I would like to see
Speaker 1: some of the guys. I would like to see it
Speaker 1: just a gritty team fight. Remember that, remember two years ago.
Speaker 1: Fight fight, fight, let's fight. I do think there's a
Speaker 1: different Jason Garrett that we see, and there's a different
Speaker 1: one that the players seem to me. We agree with that,
Speaker 1: but well I agree with that, and go ahead on imna,
Speaker 1: let you finish. You'd like to see from our perspective,
Speaker 1: you would like to see more emotion, more passion um,
Speaker 1: not necessarily from coach, but from the players. Yeah, from somebody,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, see you know somebody besides and
Speaker 1: you gim me was see people to forget. Jimmy was
Speaker 1: an ultimate clapper, but he had varieties of and you're
Speaker 1: in trouble. You know when he clapped like this, good
Speaker 1: job just no just good job job will when he
Speaker 1: clapped like this something them something you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When he clapping while he's talking, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And uh so it was just different signs
Speaker 1: of crapping. But Jimmy never got out of hand with
Speaker 1: the players, but his shades of face coloring. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so these players got little things that they know about
Speaker 1: their coach too that shows his displeasure. It's just we
Speaker 1: can't figure it out. We don't think the coaches are
Speaker 1: helping them now enough and we know what the defense is.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can't. I think the running game. I think
Speaker 1: they're short change in the running game. I just I
Speaker 1: wonder if the coaches are doing enough to make this right,
Speaker 1: to help them, and and then will that eventually turn
Speaker 1: on them? Will the players be like, screw this. You
Speaker 1: know they're leaving Chad's green ut on an island. You
Speaker 1: know they're not They're not helping Dak with the run game.
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point do they see it? That's
Speaker 1: why you know. I talked to Moose Johnson we do
Speaker 1: the show using on Wednesdays, and I say, Moose, I said,
Speaker 1: uh men, you know this offense, We've been around it,
Speaker 1: portions of it, And I say, you know, it does
Speaker 1: come a time where you gotta make some of the
Speaker 1: bit the wrinkles. And he said, yeah, he said, it's
Speaker 1: at that time. And so I'm looking for coach coach Garrett,
Speaker 1: a coach, you know, to make a little wrinkle here
Speaker 1: and there, just something to get the team spark and
Speaker 1: then go back to who you are. You know. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you see a great basketball team like the Spurs. You
Speaker 1: see what's the head coach name? Uh, you see sometime
Speaker 1: for a whole three or four minutes and just see
Speaker 1: the starters down and if the second team go out
Speaker 1: and just be playing and it's going right before the
Speaker 1: half of his just bring out that that second team
Speaker 1: and let his first team, this is what we need, fellas.
Speaker 1: Then he'll put him back and there them guys to
Speaker 1: finish the game. Never tell abandon you. But it's a
Speaker 1: certain level that I expect for you to play at.
Speaker 1: And whatever gets you sparked and going, you have to
Speaker 1: find that, you know. And Dax said, and I wish
Speaker 1: we had to cut some of the cuts of the
Speaker 1: postgame show where he said, this is what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 1: and I hope some of my teammates to do it too.
Speaker 1: He's telling you that this is that I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out and watch film and I'm gonna figure out what
Speaker 1: I'm doing wrong. So we can get better. I know
Speaker 1: what he's doing wrong for the first time and this
Speaker 1: ain't college, so don't tell me what he did at Mississippi.
Speaker 1: It's the Pros. For the first time. In Pros, he
Speaker 1: got to play a little bit out of character. He
Speaker 1: got to put the ball in some windows that he
Speaker 1: normally don't want to put it in. He trusting that
Speaker 1: somebody gonna make a play for him, and it's not happening.
Speaker 1: And when it and when it don't happen, when you
Speaker 1: got a third and five, can you go back, hurt
Speaker 1: and look at some of the the third and third
Speaker 1: down situations and tell me what Dak is looking for.
Speaker 1: Dak is looking for somebody to come along with him.
Speaker 1: He as as time grow and as he get better,
Speaker 1: he'll be able to put this team on his back.
Speaker 1: You know, but you can't right now. Okay, go go
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. Uh my man, Sir Douglas
Speaker 1: is leaving. Yeah, hanging there, Demetrius. Yeah, So Douglas gott
Speaker 1: to go record because but this kid is kid, This kid,
Speaker 1: I don't think Jason Garrett in this in this franchise
Speaker 1: put just anybody at the helm of this team, especially
Speaker 1: when you had a Tony Romo that still had time
Speaker 1: on his contract, and we don't know. You know, people
Speaker 1: say here, get her, here, get her okay, yeah, or
Speaker 1: whatever they took they took. They took a gamble, or
Speaker 1: they took a chance. I don't want to say a gamble.
Speaker 1: They took a chance. This kid looking for somebody to say, Man,
Speaker 1: I got a two seed a bike. Here, three sea
Speaker 1: the bike. Here is anybody to get on with me?
Speaker 1: I don't mind sitting at the head of it, but
Speaker 1: I need somebody to help me pedal in the back.
Speaker 1: And somebody didn't happen. You know, they got to help him. Man.
Speaker 1: So did you come back this last game? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean he had they were on third downs they converted
Speaker 1: fifty m M. But you know there were some thirty nine.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It comes a point where we
Speaker 1: look at that first half. Let me let me see
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you. What's called in punt
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, No, no, no, charges didn't punt. They either
Speaker 1: missed a field, bo made a field, Goo score a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I think they reached her twenty every every possession, and
Speaker 1: they didn't put the whole game. And this is the
Speaker 1: funny thing about it. They started on an average of
Speaker 1: their twenty one. We started on the average of our
Speaker 1: twenty three, so we started at least two and a
Speaker 1: half yards ahead of them. But what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is, guess what last year we used to take
Speaker 1: teams like that. We were doing that. Ye yeah, Now
Speaker 1: it's other way around. So in the first half that
Speaker 1: is where we didn't that we didn't give up any points,
Speaker 1: but it wore out on our defense. So when the
Speaker 1: second half came out, there you go. We were talking
Speaker 1: about emotion earlier. Give me an Example'll give you three choices. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: back when you played, you can pick one of these three.
Speaker 1: Something that stands out from somebody their emotions coming out
Speaker 1: either you Jimmy on one of your teammates. Do you
Speaker 1: have a story where somebody had a blow up or
Speaker 1: somebody acted out of character that you can talk about
Speaker 1: on air. Well, No, our guys never acted out of character.
Speaker 1: They did what needed to be done. A guy that's
Speaker 1: we act were acting to be out of character is
Speaker 1: our quarterback. His first thing is to protecting football, get
Speaker 1: first downs, look for touchdowns. That's how he that's how
Speaker 1: he thinks protecting football. Get first downs. Uh, go to touchdowns. Uh.
Speaker 1: And but more of your question is our guys. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about an emotional outburst during a game
Speaker 1: or a practice or something. Yeah. Yeah, they got fired up.
Speaker 1: That you that what happened maybe every two or three games,
Speaker 1: because no matter how good you are, you get complacent,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Irvy, Uh, we'll do it sometime. Charles Haley,
Speaker 1: um Troy every nine and then you know it's better
Speaker 1: when I get get the jumps hees. But I just
Speaker 1: just go to story. The people want to know a
Speaker 1: good story. Brother, I just can't give it to you. Man.
Speaker 1: Just you know, another time. But you know when I
Speaker 1: when I look at this team, man, you know, this
Speaker 1: is a year that the guys can really grow. You
Speaker 1: know if if if Irvin is the next level guy,
Speaker 1: and what I mean by the next level guy for him,
Speaker 1: it's not no. Fifteen sacks. I'm talking about being consistent
Speaker 1: game in the game. Can he take this year and
Speaker 1: build on it and be consistent, be more consistent? And
Speaker 1: he started this game being more consistent. He is a
Speaker 1: big play guy. But the big players can't come once
Speaker 1: every seven, every seven snaps, we got to get two
Speaker 1: or three. You know where he chased the quarterback, you
Speaker 1: know an I give example Jason Pierre Paul didn't play
Speaker 1: a great game against the red Skins the last game
Speaker 1: in New York Giant Stevens of the end, but he
Speaker 1: played enough where he was a difference in that game
Speaker 1: and going down to stretch that they needed to stop
Speaker 1: because they had to hit off and with Pete Ryan
Speaker 1: and hit off another rung Pete Ryan. They say, you
Speaker 1: knew there was on the thirty and they sting you
Speaker 1: JJ be hitting them for a sack and knocking him
Speaker 1: out of the field goal range. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You're seeing rushing the quarterback in his hands up and
Speaker 1: your boy can't even see. He can't even see, so
Speaker 1: he had to thought. Just little things like that that
Speaker 1: people don't notice, you know, but you say here he
Speaker 1: was effective this game. You know where he uh a
Speaker 1: couple of times just just got in there in the
Speaker 1: backfield and talking nobody. But he disrupted enough where big
Speaker 1: snacks just fell in on it and finished it off.
Speaker 1: Just plays like that where you can see a guy
Speaker 1: going and and doctor marks. Lawrence for the first eight
Speaker 1: games was very visible right this Now when we talked
Speaker 1: the broadest tomorrow, say what have you seen from the
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence? As he still been disrupted, because you can
Speaker 1: be I remember one of years Charles had like six
Speaker 1: or seven sacks, but boy, he was very very disrupted.
Speaker 1: You know. That's why I tell people I'm big on sacks,
Speaker 1: But uh, what what can what do you do when
Speaker 1: you're not sacking the quarterback? What does Lebron James do
Speaker 1: when he don't have thirty one points? Well, he got
Speaker 1: ten rebounds, he got five assists, he got full block shots.
Speaker 1: They're still contributing. Yeah, so those are the things. That's
Speaker 1: that's things coaches are looking for. I'm telling Marinelli. We
Speaker 1: were built to maintain leads, That's what our defense was built.
Speaker 1: But we but we're not getting leads. We in tight
Speaker 1: ball games, especially in the first half. Now you got
Speaker 1: to play a little bit bigger than that. Can you
Speaker 1: play bigger than that? Kurt? What you're working on over there?
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out last game something Nate
Speaker 1: said earlier, just how we were doing on first down?
Speaker 1: You're talking about third day? Yeah, and it's not bad
Speaker 1: on first down. Really, I mean, you look at what
Speaker 1: what those guys are averaging on the run. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tall he's something man. Run the ball, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what is it? I got this for? Morris is averaging
Speaker 1: six point six yards per carry on first down. Rod
Speaker 1: Smith is averaging seven point three yards per carry on
Speaker 1: first down. Run the ball. They give it up on
Speaker 1: it and then they ran one play action pass against
Speaker 1: the Chargers the whole game, whole game. That's why. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's see they're honoring that now. But I don't know
Speaker 1: why not team no teams, right, I know, but because
Speaker 1: they saying they're telling the backside Devin's of men don't
Speaker 1: go for if they run. Okay, we got four of
Speaker 1: the guys, six other guys defending the run. We're gonna
Speaker 1: wait for this bootleg. You're gonna wait for this play
Speaker 1: action pass as soon as he comes straight up and
Speaker 1: turn around meeting and you've seen the me that quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Put him on the run.
Speaker 1: Whereas before you had to you had at least look
Speaker 1: in there. And that's all that's all the DAK needed
Speaker 1: for you to just look in there hole for a second,
Speaker 1: just because Zeke's not there. They're not looking back, they're
Speaker 1: not looking at This is a league of This is
Speaker 1: a league of If you do it once, okay, if
Speaker 1: you do it twice, we're gonna run it. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just well, Dak Prescott's best passer ratings with with action pass.
Speaker 1: I just that's why I said, I don't think they're
Speaker 1: helping him out enough with the runnin That's why I
Speaker 1: think you got a force to run. Yeah, you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's got Morris's averaging four points. What's up? What's up? Coach? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm about you know, coach, tell you I want to
Speaker 1: run it forty times? Yeah I do. That's just how
Speaker 1: I feel, you know, running It's not like they're getting
Speaker 1: behind the chains on the first down. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing he's in man. Uh we we we
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on over there. But I will say, guys,
Speaker 1: that has the ability to see what I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 1: And I think, but the coaches trying to do don't
Speaker 1: ask the got to do something he can't do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I believe in my heart, I believe in my
Speaker 1: heart that that Irvin has more, so I'm expect more.
Speaker 1: I believe in my heart that Marcus Lawrence have more.
Speaker 1: So I'm expect more. I just I believe that h
Speaker 1: I believe that Hitchens is giving it. I believe that.
Speaker 1: I believe that if we go to player of our player,
Speaker 1: I believe that. And people may not like what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It may not care about what I'm saying. It may
Speaker 1: say he needs not to be honest. But I know
Speaker 1: Heath gives everything, everything he's got. I know this, and
Speaker 1: then it always it ain't gonna always turn out right.
Speaker 1: But I promise you if we get another safety ahead
Speaker 1: as that can give us forty plays, Heath the br right,
Speaker 1: Heath the br right. It just we just we acting
Speaker 1: to do too much. Yeah, let's take a break real quick,
Speaker 1: since we haven't done one the whole show and it's
Speaker 1: almost over with Douglas, check and see if Demetrius is
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Speaker 1: But I want to see I want to see it
Speaker 1: on the show. Hey, so what we need to do, man,
Speaker 1: is uh get a injury report from Mick and what's
Speaker 1: the defensive backs? It's you got the official one out,
Speaker 1: official ones out, so I can tell you what happened today.
Speaker 1: They have three guys that did not practice today, Lal Collins,
Speaker 1: Justin Durant, and Sean Lee. Um. I feel kind of
Speaker 1: good on Lale Collins getting back in time. I think
Speaker 1: they're trying to manage his back to try to get
Speaker 1: him to game day. But I don't think Durant or
Speaker 1: Lee are going to play this week. I'm sure on
Speaker 1: Lee and Durant's in the concussion protocol and he hasn't
Speaker 1: practiced all week, so that doesn't bode well for him
Speaker 1: advancing in the protocol where you got to have a
Speaker 1: full practice and then show up the next day and
Speaker 1: show that you have no symptoms. So it looks like
Speaker 1: those two guys for sure. But I think they're hopeful
Speaker 1: for Collins and Anthony. Hitchins at least practiced on a
Speaker 1: limited basis today and when I saw him out there
Speaker 1: doing the individual drills, he was moving pretty well, so
Speaker 1: I think, you know, they may list him as questionable,
Speaker 1: but maybe not as questionable as you might think. So, Mick,
Speaker 1: if you're missing Sean Lee and Durant, who do you
Speaker 1: plug in? There? Is? Damian Wilson got a step up.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to help out because Jalen Smith. You
Speaker 1: know it. It was a good mix last week with
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and Durant. I think one guy and I
Speaker 1: forgot which it was. It was thirty seven snaps and
Speaker 1: thirty two snaps, so that was about right. And Durant
Speaker 1: actually played, I thought, much better than the previous time
Speaker 1: he played. So without him there, I think Damian Wilson
Speaker 1: is going to have to step up and take some snaps,
Speaker 1: maybe in the changeup defenses away from Jalen Smith. I
Speaker 1: just don't you know. And he played okay. He plays
Speaker 1: better when he's not playing sixty plays, you know, when
Speaker 1: he's around that twenty five play thirty. Yes, he is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I always thought that. I thought that would be you know,
Speaker 1: And I thought if he just played in ten, he
Speaker 1: would have so much energy to eve if he did
Speaker 1: make mistake, because he's like a wild coat. You ever
Speaker 1: seen a young coat. I mean they just kicking and
Speaker 1: bucking down. They don't know where they're going, but he's
Speaker 1: just having fun. Yeah, you know, And I think you're right,
Speaker 1: And I think he feels like, hey, I'm playing yeah,
Speaker 1: which is a huge step. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: we've all kind of felt this way. You judge where
Speaker 1: he's at next year. This year is just whatever you
Speaker 1: get out of them, right. Um. So yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: gonna hurt without Durant there. And as I've always said,
Speaker 1: I always think Damian Wilson plays better when Sean Lee's on. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Brightest agrees with bright Ages. Now tell me, I think
Speaker 1: the whole defense, Wow, where the attack? Uh? Where? Where's
Speaker 1: you know? I told my guys here, a great bunch
Speaker 1: of guys that our defense is they have lost confidence
Speaker 1: a little bit, and they discouraged what is your mindset
Speaker 1: and where's our secondary set? Right now? Well, I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of chitubey O Woozier in
Speaker 1: this game at the left cornerback spot, so they're going
Speaker 1: to kind of shake that up. I think you'll see
Speaker 1: more of him. You might see more of Xavier Woods,
Speaker 1: not at a true safety, but uh in some of
Speaker 1: their changeup defenses closer to the line of scrimmage and um,
Speaker 1: keep it on what they do with Scandrick. And I
Speaker 1: think we agreed with this in training camp that when
Speaker 1: he plays one spot, he's better better than playing outside
Speaker 1: and inside. I've always thought that. That was five years ago.
Speaker 1: I came you against the Giants. I say, if he
Speaker 1: plays one spot. He seemed to exhale, you know, because
Speaker 1: it seemed like he got a chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 1: He's trying to prove that I am more than this.
Speaker 1: But leave him at that, you know, which I put him.
Speaker 1: I used to think it would be slot, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's still got the same cat quickness,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's and I think where they struggled
Speaker 1: this last game was on the outside. Yeah, and too
Speaker 1: many guys on the outside were running free. So maybe
Speaker 1: they leave him there, put one of those young pups
Speaker 1: in the in the slot, and it just give him
Speaker 1: one thing you could you can it's easier to zone
Speaker 1: the guy in the slot right than it is on
Speaker 1: the outside. And that's what they had problems in zone
Speaker 1: defense last week or Thursday. Um, thanks get yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess that was last week. Now Now the question, thank
Speaker 1: you this this team and I know coach Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: tried to keep these guys going to the next Playboy.
Speaker 1: You know, I see a team that seemed to be
Speaker 1: just lost a little confidence on defense. I just playing discouraged.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of you know, what do you
Speaker 1: westermind sat, you're closer to this team than I am.
Speaker 1: I had a feeling that their lack of a pass
Speaker 1: rush these last three games may have caused that discouragement
Speaker 1: because they're they're they're not getting there. They've only had
Speaker 1: one sack in three games. The previous four games they
Speaker 1: had fifteen. Right, that's huge, Right, Yeah, what changed other
Speaker 1: than Sean Lee not being there? And Sean Lee didn't
Speaker 1: get any of those sacks. So at some point they've
Speaker 1: got to get after the quarterback. They gotta get sacked
Speaker 1: and create some bad situations down in distance with the opponents.
Speaker 1: And then I think the other thing that happened is,
Speaker 1: you know, they especially this last game and I just
Speaker 1: mentioned it, they I think they thought that if they
Speaker 1: weren't going to get the Rivers, they had to confuse
Speaker 1: them and maybe play more zone and did it. I
Speaker 1: think they confused themselves. I don't know if that's right
Speaker 1: or not, but I just saw too many guys running.
Speaker 1: Why you know what open what I was said of
Speaker 1: the guys. I know that David Irvy can give us more.
Speaker 1: Where is he yet? Yeah? I know he can give
Speaker 1: us more last couple of games, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if teams are making a prior to making sure he
Speaker 1: doesn't give you more. But you can't double everybody up front.
Speaker 1: Na Leak is kind of out of position. He's getting
Speaker 1: say whatnot last year with Irving, that's kind of what happened.
Speaker 1: He promised us he was not He promised he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna disappeared. He promised his boy right here, the Beard,
Speaker 1: and he would do that to us this year. You know, well,
Speaker 1: maybe we need the Beard to go talk to him.
Speaker 1: You're getting that locker room more often. Hey, Mickey, take
Speaker 1: this call with us. Demetrius has been on this line
Speaker 1: for about twenty five They would not be quiet and
Speaker 1: let him talk. Not only is it Demetrius, it's the
Speaker 1: real Demetrius over and four words? What's up? Man? You
Speaker 1: got You got so much talent in this room. You
Speaker 1: got Kurt, I mean, never mind, you got Nicky, you
Speaker 1: got Nate got the bed. Take advantage of this, what's
Speaker 1: what's on your minds? The way is fine, man, I'm
Speaker 1: married with two kids. It ain't the first. I'm not
Speaker 1: having to wait on somebody don't want to. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be okay, kirky with me. Okay. Uh So I got
Speaker 1: a statement, and then I got a kind of dumb question. Um.
Speaker 1: The statement is, do you think the players kind of
Speaker 1: notice that their coach like has no accountability? No matter
Speaker 1: what he does, his job is safe. So do you
Speaker 1: think they like ever think about that, Like Jason always
Speaker 1: gonna be good? Why can't I go out here and
Speaker 1: mess up and keep my job? I'm just asking that
Speaker 1: because you know, Jason really asked no accountability. He could
Speaker 1: be four and toy of whatever and still keep his job.
Speaker 1: And my other question is kind of a dumb question.
Speaker 1: But if the Cowboys keep losing and when Zeke is
Speaker 1: getting getting back ready to return, if they still haven't
Speaker 1: won a game, since we spend no money and free
Speaker 1: agent and targeted injured players, should we think about keeping
Speaker 1: Zeke out and benching Dak just getting the worst record
Speaker 1: possible to move up in a draft because they don't
Speaker 1: spend as a free agency that's that's my whole point
Speaker 1: on there, because the team needs to get better obviously
Speaker 1: the Matris can I ask you a question back? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: So why do you think they don't spending free agency? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean because I know they got to pay Zach
Speaker 1: Martin and they I know they'd like to play pay
Speaker 1: their own players, So I get it. But like, if
Speaker 1: you're not going to have the money to spend it,
Speaker 1: let's try to get up and get better draft kids,
Speaker 1: like or trade up in the draft to I mean,
Speaker 1: we need better players, this is all, you know. I
Speaker 1: don't want my boys to be getting up like this
Speaker 1: and stuff. So just trying to think of something to
Speaker 1: get us a better players since we've never seen to
Speaker 1: spend the money in free agency and we never really
Speaker 1: have a I mean, Zeke, but we had a Harvard
Speaker 1: year when we got Zeke. But usually we like the
Speaker 1: middle of the road draft team. So I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to get us some more talent in there. Man. So
Speaker 1: have you counted the number of first round draft choices
Speaker 1: that are out there and playing, Yeah, like your whole
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, but Zeke Kiring is not really a
Speaker 1: first round talent. Now you got Zach Martin, He's good.
Speaker 1: Uh So the guys that went to the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: the last three years, they just fell off the face
Speaker 1: of the earth. I mean, you see the ricord, the record,
Speaker 1: you watch the game. Well, did you call and ask
Speaker 1: that question four weeks ago? I probably not didn't when
Speaker 1: they won three in a row and they were five
Speaker 1: and three, right, Mickey spending five here today? Don't call
Speaker 1: it a mess with Mickey. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this off. Let me let me say this here, Let
Speaker 1: me say this here, Let me say this here. Brother,
Speaker 1: we we we we You know we're not the big
Speaker 1: debate team here. We're not gonna do that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have a little fun if we're gonna respect it. And
Speaker 1: I respect you call, make respect you call. The bottom
Speaker 1: line is just right here. And we talked about it
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, and this is what
Speaker 1: we came to the conclusion, maybe I came to for
Speaker 1: our group is we left a lot outside of this team.
Speaker 1: And the question we asked Mack was why are we
Speaker 1: losing right now? And and and the simple fact is
Speaker 1: if you look back at our draft from two thy ten,
Speaker 1: and you look back at some of the free agents
Speaker 1: we brought in, we made an effort this year to
Speaker 1: say we're gonna let these guys go because we gotta
Speaker 1: go young when we can't pay all of these guys.
Speaker 1: And we left a lot of experience and a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of leadership, I think go. So this
Speaker 1: is why we where we at. We didn't we didn't
Speaker 1: know about the suspension. I believe me and Missus Jones
Speaker 1: or anybody would have knew that this right hill was
Speaker 1: coming and this big of a hit fuzz suspension, they
Speaker 1: would have tried to make some adjustments. We didn't. Now,
Speaker 1: it's just time for guys to grow up. It's just
Speaker 1: time for guys to grow up. And that's we ain't
Speaker 1: find that just once you're quitting. It's not allowed. So
Speaker 1: sitting guys on the bench and saying, hey, fellas, we're
Speaker 1: gonna sit you on the bench. You're telling the other
Speaker 1: guys that have to play and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you got any boys or any girls that's into sports.
Speaker 1: And you say, well, baby, we're just gonna sit you
Speaker 1: down because you better than all of them and we're
Speaker 1: not gonna play you. So but now the rest of y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all ain't worth it. Y'all going out there and if
Speaker 1: y'all getting injury, we'll just deal with y'all. That's basically
Speaker 1: what you're telling the team to do, right, Douglas cut
Speaker 1: him off just now. Yeah, but that's basically what he
Speaker 1: heard most of that. Yeah, but that's basically what you
Speaker 1: call back in Demetri's Monday and tell me either tomorrow
Speaker 1: and tell me if that if that's what you're saying,
Speaker 1: because you cannot see. My big issue was and Mick
Speaker 1: heard me said, and y'all heard me said a lot
Speaker 1: of times. As much as I applaud Jalen Smith, I
Speaker 1: just didn't think it was fair to the other team
Speaker 1: because Jalen is running the wrong holes due to his
Speaker 1: youthfulness and not playing ball for a few years. But
Speaker 1: you can't. But you but you're trying to get other
Speaker 1: guys right, you can't. You know they're looking at land
Speaker 1: Jayleen just ran in the wrong hole for the eighth time. Boom.
Speaker 1: You can't do that to your team because your team
Speaker 1: gonna look at you. So you don't think that coach
Speaker 1: was happy the linebacker coach even Fruce was happy when
Speaker 1: when Sean Lee and Hitches got back. So they can
Speaker 1: start coaching where they can say this is the right,
Speaker 1: this is right, this is wrong, and everybody's equal in
Speaker 1: the room. Yeah, we know that that you're gonna have
Speaker 1: your elite players, but you don't take your elite players.
Speaker 1: And then and say, hey man, Mick, you better than Nate,
Speaker 1: You better writer. Will let Nate continue to write? And Mick,
Speaker 1: you just take the week off. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't you you don't know. You want your team
Speaker 1: to be toe up and you want people not to
Speaker 1: be held accountable. You want Jason Garrett. Jason ain't going
Speaker 1: nowhere for the male fact number one? Did he? They
Speaker 1: believe that he is the right guy. So as long
Speaker 1: as mister Jones and Steven Jones believe that he ain't
Speaker 1: going nowhere and his theory about accountability, you know what,
Speaker 1: You're accountable to yourself. You're saying Jason's not accountable to anybody,
Speaker 1: but your accountable to Jason, and he has your future
Speaker 1: in his hands. So why would you quit? You're still
Speaker 1: getting paid? Did you quit? No? I can't come afford
Speaker 1: to right right afod too, because I afford to put
Speaker 1: bad tape out there. But see, my my thing was
Speaker 1: because you went through it in yeah, I gotta. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you quickly. Like Kevin Martin, I remember when
Speaker 1: I first got here, we was losing, and we were
Speaker 1: losing ugly, worse than what these guys here doing. It
Speaker 1: may not seem like it, but it was. And I
Speaker 1: was saying, Kmar. When Walter to Kmar one day, he
Speaker 1: had his head down and he's like, I said, Kmark, Man, godly,
Speaker 1: we sorry. He looked up at me, Man, looking straight
Speaker 1: in my eyes, he said, you know what, they may
Speaker 1: be sorry, but I ain't gonna be sorry. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do everything in my power to make sure. When they
Speaker 1: started rebuilding his team, however they want to do it,
Speaker 1: when they look at me, they canna say we can
Speaker 1: use him, he said. I suggested you, Big News that
Speaker 1: you do the same thing. And I never forgot that.
Speaker 1: You don't play to the level or what the fans are.
Speaker 1: Another player or another coach think you played to the
Speaker 1: level of who you are. Now, if you're sorry and
Speaker 1: you're playing as hard as you can, they'll recognize that too.
Speaker 1: But if you're good and playing as hard as you can,
Speaker 1: it's gonna rub on somebody else. Well, Mickey, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for stopping him. Alry to rub off on
Speaker 1: you guys, Dmitri, Demitri gonna call back and say, all right,
Speaker 1: Mickey's gonna just call me back. Thanks for showing us, Thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it. Yeah, Mickey, thank you for popping
Speaker 1: in Douglas. Thanks for doing what you do can't thanks
Speaker 1: for pushing the buttons. Will be back tomorrow. Hanging with
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