1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back into the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. We are joined now by the Governor 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma, Kevin Stitt, Governor, thanks for being with us. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Oh, absolutely great to be on your show today. So, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: one thing that's gotten a lot of attention from certainly 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: conservatives in recent weeks and months are the revelations about 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: transgender surgery on miners, sometimes as young as twelve or 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: thirteen years old. You are leaving an effort in your 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: state to stop this practice, at least in the hospital system. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Tell us what's going on here? Yeah, Well, first off, 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: we were totally shocked. I mean, every governor, you know, 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: citizens around the country, we need to find out what's happening. 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Because we found out there were these you know, gender 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: transition surgeries which are really you know, sterilizing miners doing 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: permanent surgeries to you know, twelve, thirteen, fourteen year olds. 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: And so we put a stop to it. We blocked funding. Um, 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: I called the legislature to stop that, uh, you know, statewide, 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: make sure we put a ban on that. I don't 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: think taxpayers want this to happen in their state. I mean, 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: especially minors. This is really troubling to me. These are 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: healthy children and uh and you should not permanently do 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: something you know and or allow that to be done 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: in your state. And so I think it's pretty pretty 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: common sense to us. Yeah, I think it's a one 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent Governor, this is Clay. I appreciate you coming 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: on with us. The analogy I would draw here is 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: you can't get a tattoo till you're eighteen, but we're 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: letting gender reassignment surgeries happen for fourteen or fifteen year olds. 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's madness. What kind of opposition, if any 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: aligned lined up against this, and what did the numbers 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: look like in Oklahoma in terms of the politicians who 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: supported you, you know you had it's it's it's it's 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: so ridiculous that we're so politicized. But every single Democrat, 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: I believe maybe two Democrats in our legislature voted against it. 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: All of them voted for it. That all the rest 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: of the Democrats voted against this bill that the legislature 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: put on my desk. And we have a majority Republican 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: conservative legislature in Oklahoma. So every one of the Republicans 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: voted to say, yeah, this is nonsense. I think ninety 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: five percent of citizens believe in traditional family values, and 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: so to allow somebody to harm their child or to 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: permanently change something. I mean, we can have the conversation. 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm happy to talk about if you're an adult and 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: you're eighteen or nineteen or twenty and you want to 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: do something, you know, on your own dime. But for 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: the state to pay for this for a minor, We're 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: just not going to tolerate it in Oklahoma. How crazy 49 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: is it to you? Let's just be honest. Pretend you're 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: not the governor, right, You're a dad, I'm a dad. 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: How crazy is it to you your kids are young, 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: that Democrats would make their entire party position that this 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: should be able to occur. You know, I mean I 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: tell people, you know, just privately before, I mean, this 55 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: would this would make our grandparents roll over in their 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: graves thinking about this. This is the most unbelievable thing ever. 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: And I think that the Democrats have gone so far 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: left and made this part of their platform and the 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: hill to die on, and they're losing the Hispanics, you know, 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the Hispanics, African Americans, 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: the Pakistanis, the Asians in Oklahoma. They constantly are reaching 62 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: out to me just saying, what in the world is happening. 63 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: I voted Democrat before, but I can't stand for this. 64 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: We're fathers. We want to protect young people like you said, 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: miners can't. We don't give them a driver's life of 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: them and give them a cart at twelve or fourteen 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: and say be responsible. We're gonna let them alter their 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: we don't let them buy we don't let them buy 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: beer until they're twenty one, and we let them cut 70 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: their genitals off at fourteen. I mean, I don't even 71 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: understand how this is remotely First of all, I think 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: it's child abuse. But the idea that this would be 73 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: a Democrat platform is truly insane to me. Yeah, well, 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: you're You're exactly right, and they're losing the far extremist 75 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: or losing this. This isn't about attacking anyone person. This 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: is about protecting young people. This is about there's a 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: lot of things that you know, you're not your mind 78 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: and your frontal lobe is not fully developed until you're 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: in your twenties. And so to allow people to life 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: altering change and let parents. I agree with you, I 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's child abuse, and we took 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: the first step to ban it in Oklahoma. We're speaking 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: of Governor Kevin stid of Oklahoma. Governor, you have spent 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: time down at the border. You've seen the lawlessness and 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: the chaos and the impact on border communities firsthand. I 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: just saw yesterday the official fiscal year count for gotaways, 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I want to say, was between six and eight hundred thousand, 88 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: which is in addition to the five five million people 89 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: who have entered illegally on the full two years of 90 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: Biden's time in office or whatever it is, year and 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: change going on two years, What does it mean for 92 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: your state or what are the impacts that you're seeing? 93 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: And just also have you ever seen a border of 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: that as this wide open before? You know? I haven't. 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: You know? It was one it'll be one year ago 96 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: tomorrow that myself and ten other governors we went down 97 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to the border with Governor Abbott in McClain, Texas and 98 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: held a press conference. We released a ten point plan. 99 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Prior to that, twenty six governors asked Biden sent President 100 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: Biden a letter asking for a meeting, and crickets nothing. 101 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Can you imagine over half of your customers or half 102 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: of your employees wanting a meeting with the boss and 103 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: he won't even respond. So we brought released a ten 104 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: point plan. You know, we have to have a remain 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: in Mexico policy, and that would change everything because right 106 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: now you're free to be released into the US if 107 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: you just touch the border and oh, by the way, 108 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: here's a piece of paper, showback up in two years 109 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: at a court date. It's just nonsense. It's creating the migration. 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: And now twenty billion dollars is the estimate. This is 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: costing taxpayers from open border, the cost of taxpayers from 112 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: illegal immigration. They're just pouring across. But in Oklahoma, specifically 113 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: fentonol is the leading cause of death. I think that's 114 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: across America. Now we know those drugs are coming through 115 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: the southern border. Then you talk about terrorists and you 116 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: talk about all the getaways. We have to have strong borders. 117 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: And I also want to say this, this is totally 118 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: different than an attack on the Hispanic community. We have 119 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: a fantastic, hardworking Hispanic community in Oklahoma, but we have 120 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: to have strong borders. We have to know who's coming 121 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: through our borders. We need correct immigration policy. Governor, this 122 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: is shifting gears a little bit. I know you're a 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: big Oklahoma state fan. Oklahoma is leaving to go to 124 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: the SEC. One of the great rivalries in all of sports. Uh, 125 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: certainly college football is bedlam in your state. It appears 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: it's going to be coming to an end. Can you 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: do anything as governor to try to keep that rivalry going? Man, 128 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: we would love to. You're right, Bedlam is a is 129 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: a huge deal. Every we played that game and Thanksgiving 130 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: and so we hope. So I'm talking to the legislature, 131 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: the university presidents to see what we can do. And 132 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: it's complicated when they go to different conferences and having 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: a non conference game with another team is going to 134 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: be difficult. But you know, I'm going to be down 135 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: in Texas on Saturday flipping the coin with Governor Abbott. 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: The Red River rivalry is a big one. Oh you Texas. 137 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: That that rival we will continue because they're both going 138 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: to be moving conferences together. But I hope we can 139 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: do something to keep it going. And Governor, you know, 140 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: we were just talking about the migration to Florida before, 141 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: and the migration that has been going on to Texas, 142 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: particularly from the coast, from the New York area and 143 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: from California has been ongoing for years. What kind of 144 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: inflows to your state of Oklahoma are you seeing? And 145 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: for anyone who's wondering what policies either Florida or Texas 146 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: have enacted successfully, what are the ones that you're also 147 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: doing in Oklahoma. I mean, we'd like to see. It's 148 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: sort of the spreading of good policies and ideas to 149 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: all states with red governors. Oh well, first off, you know, 150 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: not per capita, but true numbers. Oklahoma is eleventh in 151 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: the country right now in migration, So people are waking 152 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: up to our pro freedom, pro business policies, traditional family values. 153 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: We've got the cheapest electricity to the consumer and businesses, 154 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: so manufacturing people are coming because we've got an all 155 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: of the the above energy approach. I cut taxes last year 156 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: for every single business, every single Oklahoma so just amazing things. 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: Our regulatory environment in Oklahoma is so much better than 158 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: the coast. I'm a businessman that became governor four years ago. 159 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I've never been in politics, and so I bring that 160 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: business perspective that we want. We want our regulatory bodies 161 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: working with industry. We never played gotcha, were clear with 162 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: the rules, but we let businesses go compete against each other. 163 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: And that's why people are flooding here because of that. 164 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, we're seeing the same kind of migration. I 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: kind of joke though that if you move here from California, 166 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, I had to wait eighteen years to vote, 167 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: so they should have to wait eighteen years before thee 168 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: here too. So, Governor, we talked to start the show 169 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: about everything going on with an energy policy. You were 170 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,239 Speaker 1: just talking about the impact certainly that energy has in Oklahoma. 171 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: You're right there by Texas when you see that OPEC 172 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: is diminishing their oil production by two million barrels, and 173 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: certainly you live in a region where you guys have 174 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: produced a lot of oil and gas over the years. 175 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: How much of a disaster is Joe Biden's energy policy 176 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: for Oklahoma's and based on what you guys certainly know 177 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: about American energy production. Yeah, Well, so for everybody listening 178 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: to your show, just set politics aside for a second. 179 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: Every single president of the United States, whether Republican or Democrats, 180 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three has had an energy independence policy 181 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: that makes common sense for Americans. Let's meet the needs 182 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: of our citizens with our own resources, our own companies, 183 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: our own employees. This administration they want to buy oil 184 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: from Russia, they want to buy it from the Saudis, 185 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: they want to ask them to increase They want to 186 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: be reliant on other countries when we have the resources 187 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: in our own country to take care of our needs 188 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: because we're still driving to work and heating our homes 189 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: and businesses and taking our kids to soccer practice and 190 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: football practice. So demand is the same, but they choke 191 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: off supply and then they scratch their head when everything 192 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: costs more. The same people that they try to help, 193 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: they're actually harming because it's the people at the lower 194 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: income bracket that pay a higher percentage of their money 195 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: on groceries and gasoline. And so it's so frustrated in 196 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: such a common sense that we have to have these 197 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: honest conversations. And by the way, Oklahoma, everybody thinks we're 198 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: just an oil and gas state. I'm so proud of 199 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: our oil and gas industry. We're actually number four and 200 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: oil number three, and natural gas, but we're number two 201 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: in wind energy production. We're not afraid of renewables at all, 202 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: but let's have an honest conversation about meeting the needs 203 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: of Americans with our own resources. Governor Kevin, State of Oklahoma, 204 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Governor of appreciate you making the time for us, sir, 205 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Oh absolutely thanks for having me on. 206 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: So I want to tell you guys a story quickly. Here. 207 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: I was going into closing on a house and I 208 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: had a problem. There was some collection against me. 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We've got a couple of 243 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: people who went to weigh in eight hundred two eight 244 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: two to eight eight two. Try to throw in some 245 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: calls every now and then, and let's go first to 246 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Amber in Edgewater. She's down in Florida. Just moved from 247 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: Huntington Beach. So you moved California to Florida? Is that correct? Yes, 248 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: that's correct. Why did you make the move? Oh, there's 249 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: a plethora of reasons. It's just Scott. It got too 250 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: hard financially and then the education system as well. So, um, 251 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: we were ended up losing money out of savings and 252 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: didn't like the direction of our finances and search and 253 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: search and search, and ended up here in Florida. We 254 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: got the best bang for our buck. How happy? How 255 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: are you with Florida? Luna? Yeah, well there's a bitter sweetness. 256 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I absolutely love my kind of Huntings and Beach, which 257 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: is still fighting politically to savor it city council. Um, 258 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: but I am, I'm loving it. There's, you know, certain 259 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: aspects of freedom I didn't realize that I had lost, 260 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: even though I'm aware of many of them that I 261 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: did lose in California. Um, you know, just um, there's 262 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: there's you know, just little things waking up to and 263 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: cheaper gas by a lot, all right, no doubt. Well, 264 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: I look, there is a world buck where the twenty 265 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: twenty four election should be. If we were really going 266 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: to have a referendum on COVID, Florida versus California, Gavin 267 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: Knewsome versus Ronda Santis, who was the better executive of 268 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: a large state during COVID. That feels like if you 269 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: were like a boxing promoter, that's the fight you would 270 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: set up. By the way, I was a big proponent 271 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: and Amber, thank you for calling in from Edgewater, Florida. 272 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: I was a big proponent of if we're just lining 273 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: up the best matchup possible, it should have been Trump 274 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, really yeah, instead of Joe Biden, because with 275 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Bernie you actually get what the Democrat Party really is now. Yes, 276 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the whole game with him was, Oh, he's 277 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: been in the game a long time. He's not crazy, Joe. 278 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna keep things right down. In all lives because 279 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: the policies you've gotten with Joe Biden are just a 280 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: razor's edge difference from what you would have gotten with 281 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: a Bernie Sanders presidency. That's just the truth. I mean, 282 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: look what they just did with the spenny. He wanted 283 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: to spend, folks. He wanted to spend five trillion dollars 284 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: with record inflation already. I mean, it's it's lunacy. Joey 285 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: in Miami Beach, Florida, I gotta say, love Miami Beach. 286 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: How you doing, Joey, I'm good, guys, great show, Joey. 287 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Here is sunny. How's beach via Union, New Jersey, and 288 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: so happy to me and the wife and the family 289 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: made to move down here. And if our governor, great 290 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Governor DeSantis is listening, all we want to say to 291 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: him is run, Ron Run. Let's because I got a 292 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: lot of them clay At Floridians who are like you, 293 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: You take the rest of the country, take their hands 294 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: off our descentists. They get very, very possessive. No. Look, 295 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people out there 296 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: who are in Florida that love what Ron DeSantis has 297 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: done and are apprehensive about the idea of him running 298 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: for president because they don't want to lose him as governor, 299 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: which is the ultimate endorsement of how good of a governor. 300 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. You know, as somebody who 301 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: had lived in New York City proper for for decades, um, 302 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: the mayor mattered, right, I knew the mayor mattered a lot. 303 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: The governor a kind of you know, the governor was 304 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: like Pataki and a few other people here and there. 305 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: The governor, I think, for a lot of people became 306 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: a much more important role, and they realized the power 307 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: they have because of COVID. With COVID, all of a sudden, 308 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: you're governor mattered a whole heck of a lot. Which 309 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: is why we say De Santa's beating Gilham is maybe 310 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: the most consequential governor's race of any of our lives, 311 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: almost just because if Gilham wins, they're a lot less 312 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: freedoms everywhere. He turned Florida into New York or California. 313 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: It also buck made a lot of people realize COVID 314 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: did how important school boards are. Because I'll be honest, 315 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: I hadn't really cared that much. My kids are in 316 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: public school. I never really thought about it until I 317 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: saw that school board and what they were doing, and 318 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: COVID made me recognize it in a way that I 319 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: never had before. Noon Well, I hope a lot of 320 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: parents are still upset about the child abuse that their 321 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: children were subjected to by the school system by making 322 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: them mask up and even sit outside in cold weather 323 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: because of COVID. 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We're gonna 349 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: get the House, We're gonna get the Senate, or we're 350 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: gonna start moving in a positive direction to get this 351 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: economy going, make sure we have a great education system, 352 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: keep this country safe. I believe that we're gonna have 353 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: a big win and I'm excited to the Herschel Walker 354 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: will be one of my colleagues. Herschel Walker under fire 355 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: right now from the Lib media because of a Daily 356 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Beast report that we told you about that was Senator 357 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: Rick Scott of Florida. I was saying, look, Herschel's gonna 358 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: pull this out, and he's gonna be a very strong 359 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: member of the United States Senate when he gets it done. 360 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: The Libs know that this may be it. It could 361 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: come down to Georgia. I mean, based on how these 362 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: other races go, we're hopeful that Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia 363 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: all gonna go in the Republican category. But who knows. 364 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Herschel's in a dead heat. Really, I mean up up 365 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: a couple of points, down a couple of points, Look 366 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: at the pole, look at the day. You can find 367 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: different numbers and clay. Here's what I'd say about it. 368 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: This is obviously in October. Surprise, it's October time to 369 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: try to torpedo a candidacy. You know, whether it's a 370 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: Billy Bush tape on the bus, remember that with Trump, 371 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: or now it's this, Uh the allegation, which which Herschel 372 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: completely denies, But there's some paperwork that they say is 373 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: a check from Herschel to pay for the abortion of 374 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: a girlfriend that he had in two thousand and nine. 375 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Are there are a lot of layers to this, and 376 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: I start with the premise, and I'd actually I'd had 377 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: to hit my friend David Harsanyi over at the Federalist 378 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: for this. I agree with him on this. This changes 379 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: nothing changes nothing about Herschel's candidacy for me, because, first 380 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: of all, people that are allowed to evolve and their 381 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: understanding in their positions over time. What's the alternative as 382 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: somebody who is a major proponent of the pro life cause, 383 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: what are you supposed to do in this instance, go 384 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: with Warnock who wants abortion for all nine months of 385 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: her pregnancy. That's going to really show the pro abortion 386 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: movement how consistent we are on the right. One thing 387 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: that democrats and the left love to try to do 388 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: other than smear people and lie about them. And I 389 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: don't know if this is true about Herschel. He denies it. 390 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: They have paperwork. People can make their own conclusions or 391 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: come to their own conclusions about that. Voters can. But Clay, 392 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: We're not going to allow the left's complete abandonment of 393 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: principle to be a weapon that they use against us 394 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: by saying you have an imperfect candidate. Therefore you shouldn't 395 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: vote for him, vote for our incredibly bad candidate. On 396 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats side, Democrats reelected Ted Kennedy six times after 397 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: he killed a woman in chap a critic six times. 398 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: He is one of their yan's of left wing causes. 399 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: They are running John Fetterman right now, who nearly died 400 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: in May, has been dishonest about his entire health history 401 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: and can't physically do the job as senator and trying 402 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: to lecture people about Georgia. Here's what I believe in general, 403 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: and this is my personal position. Everyone can think differently. 404 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: I try not to make a choice about who I'm 405 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: voting for based on the personality of a candidate, because 406 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: we don't know these people. Now. I know Herschel a 407 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: little bit. I like him, but it's not like I've 408 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: spent time with Herschel privately. It's not like I've had 409 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: a long existing relationship with him. What I know, beyond 410 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: a shadow of a doubt is Joe Biden is the 411 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: worst president that has ever existed in my lifetime. We've 412 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: never had a worst president my opinion, shadow of a doubt. 413 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: The number one thing that I have to decide if 414 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: I believe that, which I do is how can I 415 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: keep Joe Biden from doing more damage to this country 416 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: than he has already done? And the answer is a 417 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: Republican House and a Republican Senate to check Joe Biden's powers. 418 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: That means herschel Walker. If I were a Georgian, not 419 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: only would I vote for him, I would be proud 420 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: to vote for herschel Walker. This is not a remotely 421 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: difficult choice for me. I'm not going to allow an 422 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: entirely personal based attack, right. That's what this is. That's 423 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: what the New York Times when they said he wasn't 424 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: black enough on Sunday. Daily Beast comes out on Monday 425 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: and says, oh, he's not pro life enough. They are 426 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: going after him personally because he is winning and they 427 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: are desperate to control the United States Senate. And for 428 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: any Georgian out there listening to me, don't allow yourself 429 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: to be played by the Daily Beast and the New 430 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: York Times. Herschel had his best day of fundraising of 431 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: his campaign yesterday. Because I think a lot of Republicans 432 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: buck when I was saying the DeSantis analogy. A lot 433 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: of Republicans understand that when you're getting attacked by the media, 434 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: it's actually a sign that they fear you, and you 435 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: should support that person even more. Oh yeah, I mean 436 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: the line from our friend end Culture is so true. 437 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: If the New York Times isn't calling you racist, you're losing. 438 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, when when you're when you're 439 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: doing well, is when they get really nasty. Right when 440 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: you're doing a good job and you're making the points, 441 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: is when all of a sudden, they you know, start saying, oh, 442 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: somebody said, do you remember the stuff they said about 443 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney? Just put aside what we think about Mit 444 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: Romney these days, the least defensive person on the planet. 445 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: He is rich Ned Flanders from The Simpsons, Okay, And 446 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: they said that he like he like had a car 447 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: with a rooftop dog container on it, and that he 448 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: was he gave someone a wedgie in high school. I mean, 449 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: it was pathetic stuff. That just anything that they could 450 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: come up with. Oh you see, Mitt Romney was such 451 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: a pulley um. But but here, you know, psychologists will 452 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: talk about projection, right when you put onto others what 453 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: you yourself are doing or thinking. Joe Scarborough is unintentionally. 454 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: I think here a master of projection in his analysis 455 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: of the Herschel Walker situation. It doesn't matter to voters, 456 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: or at least to the leadership, I should say of 457 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: the Republican Party, who said, none of that matters. We 458 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: think he can win. We like him, he's famous, we 459 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: love him in the state. He won us a national 460 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: championship in a Heisman Trophy. You were with Herschel come 461 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: hell or high water. Yeah, despite all the lives, despite 462 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: despite lying about working for law enforcement, despite lying about graduating. No, 463 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: he's not and they know he's not fit to serve. 464 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: They want the vote, They want the power. That's really, 465 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: that's all it's about. All it's about is power. That's 466 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: interesting coming from the party that, as you put it out, 467 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: has Fetterman and has Joe Biden, whom you and apparently, roughly, 468 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: let's call it, three out of four members of our 469 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: audience with my unscientific poll agree, is not even going 470 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: to be able to run again because he's not fit 471 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: to serve. I think he's not fit to serve. I 472 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: think they don't care. I think what we've seen all 473 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: along here is no support. I mean, to your point 474 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: about Teddy Kennedy to the point about Fetterman, to the 475 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: point about Joe Biden, Hey, to the point about Hillary Clinton. 476 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was I mean, never mind the classified information. 477 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: Go back to Bill Clinton. The guy is having sexual 478 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: congress with an intern in the law. Done with the 479 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: euphemism and the double Entendra, by the way, thank you. 480 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: And so the idea that you're gonna lecture me or 481 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: anyone else out there about voting for herschel Walker again, 482 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: if I'm a Georgian, this is not a tough call. 483 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: You need to get the vote that we already gave 484 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: away two seats in January of twenty one, and it's 485 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: gonna be tight. And this is what this is why 486 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: they they've spent sixty million dollars attacking herschel Walker with 487 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: everything they've got. And here's the truth, buck herschel Walker. 488 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Georgian's know him, so all the ads that you're running 489 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: about him everything else, they've known him since he was 490 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: a kid eighteen years old and he went to the 491 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: University of Georgia. And he's not perfect, just like anybody 492 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: else out there in your own life. If you were running, 493 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: they would go through every single thing you've ever done. 494 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: If you were about to win and you were about 495 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: to take away any of their power, and they would 496 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: try and destroy you. That's what they do. I need 497 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: to see when you know, the Clay Travis presidential campaign 498 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: one day, it's October of twenty something, twenty fifty. I 499 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: guess that would probably be pretty far out. But you 500 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: got what I'm saying, mister Clay Travis. Is it true 501 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: that you are a great supporter of the First Amendments 502 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: and boobs and they'd like run this ad against you all? 503 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: You know, everybody, everybody's got a thing that the Libs 504 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: are gonna come after the mon I mean that would 505 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: just be funny, of course, But here everybody's got a thing. Hey, 506 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: they'll come after you. I bet a lot of guys 507 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: are like me, Buck. When that Brett Kavanaugh thing happened, 508 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: I talked to my wife and I was like, I mean, 509 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: I bet I tried to make out with somebody who 510 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to make out with me when I was 511 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: a teenager. I'm gonna I'm just putting stunned everyone out 512 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: there that for me, the three most um, the three 513 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: most important moments of political revelation in my adult life 514 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: have been nine to eleven because of everything in the 515 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: impact obviously, but nine to eleven and that recognition of 516 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: the enemies we have in the world. The Kavanaugh destruction attempt, 517 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: I really think that that was that was the soul 518 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: of the Democrats on display, and it was rotten and 519 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: feted and grotesque and covid. I think those three you know, yeah, 520 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: Trump amazing what he did it beating Hillary, But those 521 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: three things I will never forget, and they have actually 522 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: u shifted my political my core political philosophy in ways 523 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: that have really made have really changed things in some 524 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: in some ways for me, Buck, the Kavanaugh hearing is, 525 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: I like, you were a conservative growing up, You've had 526 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: the same political beliefs. Good for you your whole life. 527 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: I shot right, like I was a moderate. I watched 528 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: the Kavanaugh hearings and I said, I can't support anybody 529 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: in the Democrat Party. After watching what they did to 530 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: break Kavanaugh on that hearing. That changed. That changed. They 531 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: knew they were lying in libertarian That made me a Republican. 532 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: They knew they were lying. They knew they were lying 533 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: in front of millions and millions of people. They were 534 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: trying to ritually humiliate and destroy a man in front 535 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: of his wife and his children and the whole country. 536 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: And they didn't care one bit. They were the remorseless, 537 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: sadistic mob. That is what the Democrats were in the 538 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh hearings. Nobody should ever allow themselves to forget what 539 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: happened there. Just think about the idea of being quizzed 540 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: based on what was written in your high school. And 541 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: you know who was one of the worst of all 542 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: the people, Kamala Harris one of the worst people. She 543 00:29:54,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: got a promotion. Everybody a promotion. That's they're trying to 544 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: do to herschel They're trying to Brett Kavanaugh him because 545 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: they don't want him in office. Don't let them win. 546 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Go and support Herschel Walker, he's going to win. 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This clip is from Let's 573 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: See Whoopie Goldberg on the View no big surprise here. 574 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: She says the only reason herschel Walker got the nomination 575 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: was because of his skin color. Listen, not the best 576 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: they have to offer, but it's all their giving. And 577 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: that's to tell you something. They didn't even try to 578 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: find somebody who was at least had the idea of 579 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: how to take care of the people in Georgia. They 580 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: just said, I'll get somebody black in there. Get who 581 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: do you know, Oh, you get him? Yeah, And that's 582 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: what they did. That's what it feels like. That's what 583 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: can you explain it. I mean, this is such an 584 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: insult to have a black woman diminishing herschel Walker entirely 585 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: to the color of his skin, particularly when it's Democrats, 586 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: who are actually the party that regularly says I mean, 587 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: this is what Joe Biden did with a Supreme Court justice. 588 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: He said I'm going to pick a black woman and 589 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: didn't allow any other options out there. Herschel Walker is 590 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: one of the most popular and esteemed people in the 591 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: state of Georgia, beloved for decades, and he herschel did 592 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: stepped up for Donald Trump, a longtime friend of his. 593 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: I think herschel would tell us if he were on 594 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: here right now. We'll get him on again soon. We've 595 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: had him on the show a bunch. Herschel would say 596 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: that when he saw his friend Donald Trump being unfairly attacked, 597 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: he felt compelled to speak out, and that's how he 598 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: ended up in politics. If Trump doesn't get involved in politics, 599 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Herschel ever really steps to the forefront 600 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: and feels compelled to speak out like he did. Uh. 601 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: And that's why everybody out there, particularly everybody in Georgia, 602 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: has to stand behind Herschel here as he is under fire. 603 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: We got a lot of people who want to weigh 604 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: in with a variety of calls. Johnny in Utah, where'd 605 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: you move to? I'm doing sorry, Johnny High. I was 606 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna say, Special Agent Johnny Uah is calling in from 607 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: from the exactly what I was thinking, Johnny Utah, Johnny, 608 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: I apologize, not worries. So good what you got for us? 609 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: You're on radio. There's a couple of million people listening. 610 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: Did I rattle? Just hanging out with special Agent Johnny Utah? Man, 611 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna catch the point break any moment. Go ahead, sir, Yeah. Anyway, 612 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't think her job because it looks they couldn't 613 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: have been looking for her. Um. But real quick is 614 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: I moved from California to Io and I did all 615 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: the mass player to leaving and it was like twenty 616 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: eight cheaper for we'd moved here. And now that everything 617 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: has changed, a lot of people here are still in 618 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: shock because of all the prices are going up, and 619 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: in California was already like that. So my cost of living, 620 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you, Donnie great statu La cost of 621 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: living is something that I think now people have thought 622 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: more about because of COVID clay and the mobility that 623 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: happened during that period. A lot of people just got 624 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: out of some of the blue stalinist COVID enclaves and 625 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: experienced Tennessee, experienced North Carolina, experienced Florida, Texas, and they're like, 626 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: oh wow, these places have amazing everything and they're a 627 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: lot cheaper. Crazy stat from the time California became a 628 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: state in eighteen fifty until twenty twenty, the state game 629 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: population every year twenty twenty, it loses twenty twenty one, 630 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: it los twenty twenty two, it loses cost plus COVID 631 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: Robin Salt Lake City, what you got for us. We 632 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: love Salt Lake City, appreciate everybody listening out there. Well, 633 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: I gotta say that last car, I wish I had 634 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: a cool handle like Johnny Utah. Hey, guys, listen to 635 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: you guys all the time. Love the show. Um, figure it. 636 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: Let's stir the pot a little bit um between uh 637 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: driving every day, I filled my day up with listening 638 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: to you guys and your buddy Jesse Kelly. So with 639 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: that in mind, Clay, my questions mainly for you is 640 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: how much crap does Jesse give you for not putting 641 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: your money where your morals are as far as uh 642 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: the sports go, and uh giving it all up? Yeah, 643 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: you know that's it's It's well. First of all, Jesse's 644 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: got a great show. Um, although he did order seventy 645 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: five dollars tequila shots that cost me a great deal 646 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: of money and tried to claim that he did it 647 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: because he didn't have another drink and he actually had 648 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: an old fashion that I was also paying for. Just 649 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: for the record. Uh, look, we talked about this sometimes, Buck. 650 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: I made the decision. First of all. I love sports, 651 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: and I think when you love something, you either make 652 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: the decision. I am going to stand and fight for 653 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: the sports that I love to try to make them 654 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: appeal to everyone. Democrat, Republican, independent, whatever they are. Or 655 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: you say, throw up the deuces, say peace out, and 656 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: I abandon interest. I understand both sides. I'm fighting to 657 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: try to make sports sane. I haven't been willing to 658 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: leave so I you know, I don't love it enough 659 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: to fight for it. So it's easy for me to 660 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: say I don't think that conservatives should support those things. 661 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: But you're on the inside and you don't want to 662 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: give the aircraft carrier or the battleship to the left, 663 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: so you're not giving up the fight. By the way, 664 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: you get an under Siege five. That was a great movie. 665 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: That was a great movie. Johnny Utah Fleet, Travis and 666 00:36:50,200 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front lines. Fren