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Speaker 1: I never told your protection of I heart rate you

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Speaker 1: and Happy Monday or Happy whatever day you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: but we're recording those four Mondays though. If you're one

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Speaker 1: so maybe maybe they pick it up. All right, So

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Speaker 1: just in case, Happy Monday. It's not happy Day to

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Speaker 1: you in general in YouTube, and he's not Monday for us,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about today for our Monday Many, and

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Speaker 1: So for today's Monday Many, we wanted to not only

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Speaker 1: do a quick rundown of changes, let's also talk about

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Speaker 1: what is happening in the industry. And there's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of conversations about the responsibilities of this specific industry,

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Speaker 1: talk about the fact that we are a medium that

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Speaker 1: is misleading and or could be damaging. And that's important

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Speaker 1: is responsible for what's being said? Right, oh yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: even at our office, which again we're still all working

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Speaker 1: I don't know, sometimes you probably feel this a lot too,

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Speaker 1: like an odd moment, right, well, and you and I

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Speaker 1: There's Shades and Layers by Katano Saxana Vicci and this

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Speaker 1: like Honeypot. I believe that you could be a part

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Speaker 1: And then there's let Me Tell You Something Bitch, hosted

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Speaker 1: Bitch as a podcast about everything. I have stories out

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Speaker 1: to see more people, more women, more representation in this

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Speaker 1: fields and listeners. We know you've got some recommendations and

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Speaker 1: a stuff your mom stuff at I Heart media dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast.

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Speaker 1: always to our super producer Christina, thank you and thanks

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Speaker 1: to you for listening. Stef I Never told you. The

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