WEBVTT - Kings and Queens with Meghan King

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<v Speaker 1>Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast

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<v Speaker 1>three to one. Hi, everybody heard that. That is the weirdest,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that's like so embarrassing when you're like

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<v Speaker 1>that happens and you are like, I don't know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>a massage, or you're at the and like a weird

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<v Speaker 1>like you get like a weird gurgle noise, or like

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<v Speaker 1>you're on a date and it's like everybody heard it

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<v Speaker 1>just happened. Sorry, I just had like a throat happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, come out of my mouth. Um, Hi, Cat, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? Uh well, I'm better than I

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<v Speaker 1>was last night? Or a Catherine walked into it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a Mintain mental meltdown, completely, a

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<v Speaker 1>complete mental breakdown I had last night, and M I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I you know, because I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think too when the last time I cried was it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a minute since I've cried, like for me, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's been like more than a week, Okay, Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been like a couple of weeks, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>actually maybe it's even been longer than that. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think I've had a good cry

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<v Speaker 1>for probably m M. I'd say two and a half months.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a good cry in a minute. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a good cry, and she was witnessed to a

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<v Speaker 1>good cry. I just it was, Um, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this season right now is kind of busy, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I don't honestly know when this one shoots, this,

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<v Speaker 1>when this one airs, but like I'm going to film

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. Um, just got a lot going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays and kids birthdays and work and um just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wrapping up things for the year, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot. And then you know we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>wind down in l A. And so when I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the when I'm gone, my ex has the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I'm home, like I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>minute to like myself, and so I think you yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, hey, reminder for you know, these proofs for

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<v Speaker 1>content stuff. And it's like I've been going until pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much bedtime and then still having to work, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just was like I just needed a break and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like do my proofs and Jason's wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>come into my bed and he's crying, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like I had that like mom, moment where I felt

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<v Speaker 1>terrible too, because I was just like, dude, I just

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<v Speaker 1>like stop, you know, I'm because I'm just like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted and I want to get this done so I

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<v Speaker 1>can go to bed. And he's crying and like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming over to do next photos, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>just be prepared, you're gonna walk in. And when when

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<v Speaker 1>you came in, I mean, I just like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>glad I had a heads up. Oh yeah, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the heads up. I took a minute in the car

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<v Speaker 1>before I walked in. I was like, let's go, we

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<v Speaker 1>got this. Yeah, and you walked in and I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like ugly snots. Yeah, it was pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just, you know, it's hard to I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I think it's it's just it's good to like

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<v Speaker 1>let it all out. But you said something today that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was kind of interesting. I just, for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in a long time, I felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>guy watching the girl like have just like a complete

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown that doesn't even make sense. I mean, you's made sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, you know, the guy feels like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense. It definitely made sense, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times the guys like what's happening, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you want to fix it, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>felt that that moment. I'm like, shoot, I want I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy that just wants to fix it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to listen to just like shut up

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, you know. So I just felt like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But and I think to like you were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with solutions, and I'm like, yeah, it's and

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I'm like, this is where I get

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<v Speaker 1>like it's hard not having a partner for help. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I have I've got laundry up to my chin,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got you know, work, and and and I'm got

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<v Speaker 1>a kid that sleeps in my bed, and like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just it just becomes a breaking point and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like I just and I kind of felt it during

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<v Speaker 1>that day to where I was just like I could

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<v Speaker 1>sense my on gluing and Sarah Bryce said something, she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good, and I was like, at that one of

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<v Speaker 1>our like rights, and I'm like, no, girl, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm starting to ses well, you look at on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and I was like, because everything on Instagram is

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<v Speaker 1>just like I'm not going to go on there and

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<v Speaker 1>like cry like you know, it's like, yeah, it's social media,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it does. So but then like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to film me having a massive and mental breakdown.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I just know that the day that I

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<v Speaker 1>was in that songwriting and I was doing that song,

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<v Speaker 1>I was bent over wailing into my like into my

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<v Speaker 1>sink and just like feel the drops of the tears

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<v Speaker 1>like coming down at my foot because I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was like ugly cry and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like getting poor Catherine. She just she's like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>if we do this? I'm like I can't. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, why don't you pay something? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>cant I'm broke. I was like, or I'm like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to pay someone like because I'm like I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. I'm just like I think I just needed

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<v Speaker 1>to cry and let it out because in this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>well even no, even last night. Oh yeah, like when

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<v Speaker 1>we were walking, I'm good, Yeah you just had a

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<v Speaker 1>good cry, were good? Button it up? Yeah? All good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean I will say, obviously the manager comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of me where I'm like, Okay, we're gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>up with solutions We're gonna make this more manageable, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's a lot. You know, it does get

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot for sure, But in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to listen. Yeah. Um, And I I

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<v Speaker 1>did end up calling my ex last night and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, because we have we've shoot coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like please, like I need help,

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<v Speaker 1>like I need like I need to sleep tonight before

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<v Speaker 1>the shoot. Um. And so he was able to so

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<v Speaker 1>I have I have a night off so I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a double in a row. Good. Yeah, which I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. So I have something I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>It involves the guests that we have today. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a break and then I'll chat about it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So we have Megan King coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>show today and she is a housewife. What what she

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<v Speaker 1>was on? She was on one? I never saw which

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<v Speaker 1>one she was on. Um, I think she was for

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<v Speaker 1>a short time. Yeah, because her husband she was on

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<v Speaker 1>Orange County Okay, yeah, I don't County and her husband

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on her. Okay. So she's got any podcasts all

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<v Speaker 1>right now? And I'm kind of we were cordial and

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<v Speaker 1>that cordial as she said we were like acquaintances on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram because of how um the situations of like our

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So we just kind of related to that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>stories are similar, Yeah, stories are very similar. Um. Lots

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<v Speaker 1>of just like you know, you got this, you're strong, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, she'll she was. She would ask me

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<v Speaker 1>questions about like, um, uh, you know, narcissist stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>having narcissus X and YadA YadA, and talking about you

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<v Speaker 1>know things whatever. Um. And there was something that she

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<v Speaker 1>said in our d MS that really bothered me. Okay

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<v Speaker 1>and call me out, okay, please, okay, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>irked me and we haven't spoken since that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that she was going to be the guests

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<v Speaker 1>on Today's run Down, and I had like a do

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<v Speaker 1>I address it? Do I let it go? Because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like okay, let me just well just again, I

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<v Speaker 1>might be just sensitive to it. And again, call me

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<v Speaker 1>out if you think I'm being like a stupid girl,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I just would have never okay, okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>we were basically talking about how her ex gym is

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<v Speaker 1>making things difficult for her UM, and I agreed with

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<v Speaker 1>the yes, like you know, my ax as well will

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<v Speaker 1>be like you know how it's like, how did they

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<v Speaker 1>hate us when they were the ones that blew our

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<v Speaker 1>lives blewe lives up right, but yet they somehow find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make us feel like they hate us

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You know. So we're kind of talking about that,

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<v Speaker 1>um and she goes, um, it's like he's she she

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about her ex, like he's like he's a

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<v Speaker 1>man child. At least your ex is hot, mine looks

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<v Speaker 1>like or whatever. And I said, my ex is in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, I'm like, my ex isn't. Like I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say at least your ex hot. So

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, I'm sorry. That kind of bothered me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say your ex is hot, especially knowing

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<v Speaker 1>how much you hurt you. Anyways, have a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the last I've communicated with her because I

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<v Speaker 1>would never knowing that like what her ex did to her,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, well, least he was hot, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>what is being hot have to do with it? Second

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<v Speaker 1>of all, like it almost is like she took away

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know. It just really bothered me for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason. I think I'm not understanding the context. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not the context, but like what was her point? And

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<v Speaker 1>at least he was hot, because I like it last

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good she goes um, that's only it's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's a manchia. At least your ex is hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine looks like a clown. Uh okay. Knowing that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think she was just trying to compare and basically say

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<v Speaker 1>that hers was not cute. But what does like they

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<v Speaker 1>both were cheating a holes? I mean, looks should have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with it. At least she is hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I would just never like because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>when a man disrespects a woman, you ain't hot. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>you're done. Like I've dated some very attractive men. The

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<v Speaker 1>second you lie to me, you are the ugliest human

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<v Speaker 1>in a room to me. Or cheat you are ugly

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<v Speaker 1>to me, And I would never be like, well, Leasie

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<v Speaker 1>was hot, and it's like, no, the hotness has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it, like the looks like does it

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<v Speaker 1>bother you though? Because you just don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>him as hot. I don't look at my ex and

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<v Speaker 1>have any attraction towards me? What is that? Why it bothers?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? It bothers me because I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it takes away like who he like? Who all the hurt?

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<v Speaker 1>Like to I'm like, Welicie was hot. I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like she devalue or it's like she took away the

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<v Speaker 1>Um Okay, It's like saying an abuser is hot, well

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<v Speaker 1>at least he was hot. Well he abused me right

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<v Speaker 1>right right right now that that man was abusive, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least he was hot. What. So that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of like take the inside because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this man was emotionally or mentally or whatever abusive,

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<v Speaker 1>And I would never say, well, at Leasie was hot.

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<v Speaker 1>What That just then just makes it be like so

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't know, it just bothers me. I see

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<v Speaker 1>now your point now that you compare it to that,

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, it doesn't sound it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>misuse of Like it doesn't feel intentional. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that she meant it in the way that you're taking it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why you take it that way though, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel like she was trying to be like

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<v Speaker 1>that to me. Yeah, because you know, it's like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you break it's like a girl thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you want to break out something, so you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk bad about the guy, but you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like his looks or like you just you

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about him. I don't know, you just you

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<v Speaker 1>don't say anything. I agree with that, Yes, like I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't ever say Mike was hot, like that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. But I think she was more that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was more about her and her exci and

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<v Speaker 1>it was you, yeah, that's what I think. Well, she

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<v Speaker 1>ended up responding back and I never responded back. When

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<v Speaker 1>this was back in February, She's like, sorry, Jann, I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to lighten it up. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>a good looking guy when I saw him on your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to find a silver lining. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like he ruined my life and that that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds very pragmatic. He ruined my family, and like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to ever look at him as like this

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<v Speaker 1>hot guy. At least he was hot and like that

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<v Speaker 1>his looks we're like are nothing like that's that's like

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest, like what I would have said. At least

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<v Speaker 1>you have beautiful children. That's the silver lining, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, and I agree. I just don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're reading more into it. For sure, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it. It's like calling. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the right to feel that way about what

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<v Speaker 1>she said. It doesn't feel like she had bad intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hear what you're saying and I understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like a lot of people would take

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. But again, I just don't think she

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<v Speaker 1>was really thinking through what she said. Yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 1>is the question, now do we address it? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>know she's in the waiting room, and I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, like, do you do I do I say something?

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<v Speaker 1>And like we just avoid like the well, you know me,

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<v Speaker 1>we have this conversation. I'm a like, let's address it

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<v Speaker 1>and move on kind of person. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>or do we just pretend like it didn't happen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't really pretend because now this part will air

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<v Speaker 1>and then so it's like yeah, maybe, yeah, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a break and then let's get her on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right and bring eran. What do you think, Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think I should do? I think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to address it. It's clearly bugging you, Like I

0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.160
<v Speaker 1>can see how it's affecting you, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if the rest of this interview will feel genuine or

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<v Speaker 1>like be even fun if you don't kind of am

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<v Speaker 1>I off? Am I am? I? Like? Am I am

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<v Speaker 1>I stupid for feeling that way? No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so at all. I think you're a reasoning totally makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense of it, being like yeah, like basically calling like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like it's almost like taking away what he did

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<v Speaker 1>to you by saying that. But I do agree with Katho.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she and I'm not trying to compare him

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<v Speaker 1>to like some like awful human being. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never be like someone that like hurt them, like, well,

0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.160
<v Speaker 1>at Leastie was hot, Like if someone like was, she

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<v Speaker 1>don't need multiple million times and then well at Leasie

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<v Speaker 1>was hot. What does that have to do with it? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you don't. Yeah, if you were reversed

0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and you said something like downplaying her side of it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, well, at Leastie give you kids or

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<v Speaker 1>at least he did something, you know, something, I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't her side probably be upset too, So I do

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<v Speaker 1>think though, if you explain that to her that she

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<v Speaker 1>would understand it. I mean, I don't know where, but

0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I think anyone sometimes you have to explain to them

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<v Speaker 1>like this is why this wasn't And I know if

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<v Speaker 1>it were me, I'd be like, oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry. That's not how I meant it. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to, you know, like I don't think when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to be like dramatic or I just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just something. It just rubbed me the wrong way, like again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just yeah, okay, well, let's just get her on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I think you asked her and let

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<v Speaker 1>her explain herself, and I think she will. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing her in. Okay, Hey, how's it going, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>It's going good. How are you good? Yeah? Yeah, of course. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We were kind of just discussing the kind of that

0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:19.200
<v Speaker 1>are like last interaction together, okay over um over d

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<v Speaker 1>m S. And I just like I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>like mention that and then like move on from it

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know why I've let it like sit

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<v Speaker 1>in with me or whatever. And do you remember it

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<v Speaker 1>at all or no? Okay, okay, um, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just and I was trying to explain

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe I'm just like being stupid, but for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like like I know how bad your

0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.240
<v Speaker 1>ex hurt you, you know, like and cheated all those

0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.560
<v Speaker 1>he was bad due to you, And I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if I was to have said, like, well, at

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<v Speaker 1>least he's hot, like that would have taken away because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe i've let's just say like whatever, like

0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 1>he's not hot to you, and just the same with

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<v Speaker 1>my ex. But I found like, well, at least he

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<v Speaker 1>was hot to me. Like I don't know, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>off basis, but like I would think that you would

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<v Speaker 1>be like you would feel like you're like everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he put you through like kind of was um devalued.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least he's hot. Like I can see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. But in my opinion, I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a compliment, and I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like make light of a shitty situation because I know

0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that you know what it's like to be with a

0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.600
<v Speaker 1>shitty person who does things to you, and so in

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<v Speaker 1>my like in mind, solf to me that man is

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<v Speaker 1>not hot. There's no in like, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get into it because we both know what sucks and

0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.800
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, all right, um, we both have like

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<v Speaker 1>these shitty situations, but at least he's hot. And I

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<v Speaker 1>said that because I don't know. I mean, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a compliment. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a nice thing to say. And I've actually talked to

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<v Speaker 1>people about this too, and they're like, I think I

0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.959
<v Speaker 1>think the reaction, the reaction from me and the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>that I've gotten when I've explained my side of it

0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:19.000
<v Speaker 1>is that you overreacted and that maybe you were feeling sensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings that was

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<v Speaker 1>and I apologize that was never my intention, but I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly wasn't making light of anything. Uh huh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wouldn't, like I appreciate that. Um, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would, knowing how bad your ex

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<v Speaker 1>hurt you, I think your ex is a good looking guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say, well, at least he was hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wouldn't because like I would just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that would take away like the stuff that he's done

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<v Speaker 1>to you, because someone that does that stuff is not

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<v Speaker 1>a good looking person, whether they were. I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine. You're totally like, yeah, yeah, and I if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody said, like somebody was like, well, at least Jim's hot,

0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I would be like, well I don't see him as hot,

0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:04.720
<v Speaker 1>but like I just is not hot. Yeah, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the silver lining, Like I mean, you guys, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's like for me, like the greatest thing was getting kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's the silver line. Not that I feel like

0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.400
<v Speaker 1>my kids would have existed either way, Like my kids

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<v Speaker 1>would have my what would have like this mic is

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 1>going in and out, um, they would have like somehow

0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it did in my world, whether or not it was

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<v Speaker 1>with Jim, because like the in the way, what I

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<v Speaker 1>believe is that souls that are meant to be here

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and meant are are here, and like energy will manifest

0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.600
<v Speaker 1>if it's meant to be here. I mean, I think

0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.120
<v Speaker 1>souls are also like there's a ton of free will

0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>behind that and behind like you know, children in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But in my head, when people are like, at least

0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you have three kids from him, I'm like, I no,

0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not at least I have three kids with him.

0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I would have had my kids anyway, Like my kids

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.000
<v Speaker 1>belong to me in my head, and like it just

0:19:58.040 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>sucks that I had to have him as the dad.

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<v Speaker 1>It whatever, but if Jim's gonna be hot, at least

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>my kids of those genetic traits. Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you're saying. But I think for me,

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like I like that is where I can silver

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.119
<v Speaker 1>line it with, like I'm glad that like we were able,

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 1>like that is the reason why we were together. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think like my parents, I come from a divorce family,

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's like my parents were never meant to be together,

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.479
<v Speaker 1>but like they were meant to have us, and like

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, for me, like Mike and I were never

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.639
<v Speaker 1>meant to be together. I thought we were and I

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 1>would have loved that if he was a healthier human,

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.360
<v Speaker 1>but like and we were healthier together. But um, like

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's like yeah, okay, like we have our

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>kids and like, um, I'm grateful that like we that

0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 1>was like the silver lining for for that relationship, and

0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I'm never going to take away that,

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>like you know him as a dad, and like you know,

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he's the father. And I think that's helpful

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>for you. I think that to have that that makes

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you feel like okay, like this is the reason I

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.199
<v Speaker 1>was there, This is the reason people think how you

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 1>think about, you know, the silver lining with um, you know,

0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>shitty relationships and then having children out of it. I

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>think most people think like you, Jana, where they're like,

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 1>at least I have the kids, and yeah, I mean

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I think like for me, rhetorically speaking, yes, okay, I

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.720
<v Speaker 1>can go along with that, but at the same time,

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I wish I would have had them with

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>If I didn't have kids with him, he wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>in my life at all. No, I mean, girl, I

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.440
<v Speaker 1>trust me, Like I get it. We actually just had

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a conversation the other day because I'm like, you know,

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the first holiday not having the kids, and he was

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.160
<v Speaker 1>just like, why can't you get over it? And I'm like,

0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>this is still hard. He's like how He's like, you've

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.560
<v Speaker 1>moved on, You've had relationships. I'm like, but it's still

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 1>hard not to have my kids on the first Christmas

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like day waking up, Like, I know it might be

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 1>so easy for you, but like and so that piece, yes,

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I would love to not like have to co parent

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.639
<v Speaker 1>with him, you know, with that area, because I'm like,

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get the pain that still exists there and

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not trying to like trust me, like I've

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.119
<v Speaker 1>like I have moved on from you. I just haven't

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>moved on from like the situation, you know what I mean.

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Because it's not easy. He don't even like to be

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in town. When I don't have my kids on holidays,

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like on kid holidays, I try to leave and just

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 1>ignore it. It's so hard. Like but I'm like, have

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you done it without having your kids on Christmas Day?

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Because like I'm not. This is the first year I'm

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.239
<v Speaker 1>not waking up to my kids in Christmas Day and

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.439
<v Speaker 1>like I did it once and then I'll do it

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:34.879
<v Speaker 1>again this year. And what do you do? I cry

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and I pretend like I make my own Christmas Like, um,

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>so when they come to me on Christmas Night because

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>they'll spend Christmas Eve this year with with their dad

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and then wake up on Christmas Morning with their dad,

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll just do Christmas night as if it's Christmas Eve

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>at my house. Well yeah, but then it's like does

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Santa already? But Santa already came at Dad's right, I

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>mean it's magic magic. I just gotta believe they definitely

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>need to Santa. Oh no, no, no, for sure. But

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is like, because they'd come over Christmas

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Day at noon, so it's like they're gonna be where's

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>my presence, mom, Like I mean didn't come yet because

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys weren't here. And or I wrote Santa note

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and said, um, we're gonna have Christmas today. I actually

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>really like that, and I really like that idea because

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they did get the Christmas Christmas Day. It's not the

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>same for everybody's I mean, because everybody has Christmas Eve

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Eve, so that part is still really hard.

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I try to shut down the social

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>media and just like not celebrate, what like not partaking

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 1>other celebrations in that way, and then I just literally

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>created like this magical experience the next day. Yeah, I

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of love that that way, they're still waking up

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>to this excess, like you still get the excitement. Because

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna do is I asked Jolie, I go, hey,

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>do you want Santa to come early? And she goes no,

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, shoot, because he hasn't the whole

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 1>week like before Christmas, and then I get the full

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:08.199
<v Speaker 1>week after Noe, me thirty him. The week is a

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>long time. Then it's a very long time, and I

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>had I had asked him if we can work something out,

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and he said no because I I keep blab in

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>my mouth. Oh so he's punishing you. So so does

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he hate you more than he loves his children? Oh? Yeah, well,

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean because yeah. And then I'm like, hey, we

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>can switch and then you can have and like I'm

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to because I'm like, a week away is tough,

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? But you yeah, what do

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you guys have? Actually? So he gets every other weekend? Um,

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>so we have the same. Then yeah, so I do

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.959
<v Speaker 1>ten days, he just four? Okay, oh okay, okay, all

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>right makes sense? And then how how is it going

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>with y'all? We don't speak. I mean we community, We

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>communicate on a court ordered app and he rarely checks

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the app. I've had to, like, had have our parent

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 1>coordinator who we have to pay court ordered to. Um,

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I have to email her and be like, he's not

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>communicating and we have to communicate about like handoffs or

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>she couldn't go to Soccer Protects last week because she

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't have Aspen didn't have her soccer uniform or cleats

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>or anything because he didn't check his app to see

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that she needed her stuff. It's horrible. What do you

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>think you would want to like mend the relationship? Like

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you think you would need? Like probably somebody

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 1>is probably never speaking to him again, Like probably a

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>partner who's who communicated with him instead of me. I

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>know that it's because he has I mean, I'm his

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 1>third ex wife and I've seen how he communicates with

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the other two and it's there's it's bad. What do

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you think about the shared Because one of the other

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>punishments I got was because I didn't invite and I

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>and I owned up to this. This was like I

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>felt actually very bad about this. But my son is

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>having a birthday party, and I sent the birthday invite

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to the preschool for the kids in the class, and

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.239
<v Speaker 1>he got the invitation. And he's like, I find out

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>about my kid's birthday party through an invite through preschool,

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well he didn't come to the I go, well,

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>it's on my weekend, so like you can have a

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>birthday party and he's like that's He's like, I don't

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.479
<v Speaker 1>understand why you can't just be around me, and like

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>it's for the kids, and I'm like, but again, you

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>can have a birthday party on your weekend and he's like,

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>no other parents Like, He's like, why can't you just

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>like whatever? And and then I'm like, am I being

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but am I being unreasonable? Not have a method because

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 1>he's a control freak and he or am I just

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>it's or or I take it away and it's not.

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>It's about the kids. Let him be at the birthday

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>party with all the friends. No, but well that's what

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.719
<v Speaker 1>makes logical sense. But you need your boundaries and you

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.120
<v Speaker 1>have to have emotional boundaries with a man who hurt

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you to the core. And if that means that you

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>have a separate birthday party, that means that you have

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a separate birthday party. Is your weekend. It's your decision.

0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 1>You're the mother, and he needs to stay the away.

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>You have his own thing that it has nothing to

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>do with him right now. You need your space to

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>heal and boundaries up. And that is being the best

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>mother that you can be because you were emotionally protected.

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>M hmm. I agree with that. But at least he's hot, Megan.

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's certain I think certain people can have

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>birthday parties together and certain people just shouldn't, like she said,

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>with boundaries and y'all just aren't there. But but he

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel bad for not being there, Like he's like,

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he's like, he goes, I don't talk about you know,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>He's like, when are you going to be over it?

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I'm it's just and a gain I have.

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I just don't. There's a lot of hurtful things that

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>happened in that marriage, and it's very hard to be

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>around him. Yeah, it's not that I haven't forgiven or

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>healed or moved on. It's just it's it's hard to

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>be around that knowing all the list. You know, Yeah,

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>then you don't do it. I mean, but then I

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like a bad mom, Like I'm not like taking

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the kids into account of like what they made you

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>feel that way, Like he knows which buttons to push

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that's not Are you a bad mom, Dianna? No,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So don't let him make you feel like that. Well, okay,

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.919
<v Speaker 1>that's all right. So then you guys don't do birthday

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>parties together? No, we don't. God knows, I don't even

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>know about him. He doesn't like the teachers, don't even

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I asked the teachers, not even to send things home

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to his house. He's he's not he doesn't parents, he's

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>like present for when he's there. But I mean, he

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of concussions in baseball, and I think

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>that um lent to like the way that he has

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>relationships now, Like he's easy to anger and he forgets everything.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Short term memories not existent. And I don't know if

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Mike has any like concussions from sports as well, but

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I definitely see it like getting worse as the years

0:28:54.000 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>called by. Yeah, um, I saw something on social but

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't click. I didn't read because again, like I

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>don't trust anything that's on those sites. Are you with

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that guy from Bachelor in Now? That was kind of

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like a but those kind of just like testing the

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the press to see what they would say, And they

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>said what I thought they would say. That's all but

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>because all were like super key together. So I had

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>fun with him, but it was like very Vegas and

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like very fun, and then I was like sort of

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>interested in like maybe pursuing something and he was like, nope,

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>who were just friends whatever, It's fine, like he's it

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>definitely would not have worked, but um, I'm da, I

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>am seeing somebody right now, Okay, like because yeah, I

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>want to I want to kind of get into that too,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>because I know, um, obviously there was this relationship afterwards,

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I don't want to put words

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>into your mouth, but I mean I feel like, again,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>we're very similar with how we love and we give.

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>We give very fast, um, and we love very fast,

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and we both want that like family that we were

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>promised and what we what we want for our kids

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and everything. Um. And so when I saw that when

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>y'all ended up, I felt so bad for you because

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like I saw myself and that too. It's like

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>we we I would have felt like, here I go again.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm the failure, I'm the embarrassment. And it's like and

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I messed up again that since then kind of like

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it's very similar to like my last breakup post divorce.

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>But I feel now where I'm like, I'm so afraid

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to get into relationship because I don't want to look

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to be an embarrassment. I don't

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>want to be a failure. I don't want to be

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>like yep, see she's she's the reason, she's the reason

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>why things fall apart because she's crazier, she's what I

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah. So it's like, I think, I

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know, are you having a hard time stepping into

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>dating again because of like all of those things? Yes,

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>all of those but like this, So the guy I'm

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing right now, he's um, he's been he's been

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine for seven years. I met him

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>before my kids were born, Like, he knows my kids

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>from birth, and he knows Jim, and um, we have

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>tons of mutual friends. And so that part has been

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>really nice. So like so easy because I trust him

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and I know him. Um, I feel really lucky because yes,

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it is hard to trust and know, Like I don't

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to fall apart, Like I think this

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>is my guy and and I'm it's just easy. I

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>mean seven years of friendship and active friendship. How did

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>it switch? Um, he's like, which is like cool. One

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>night wegat I'm really drunk and then confessed all of

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>our feelings and then yeah, right, I was in Denver

0:31:55.640 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>visiting a friend and we reconnected and um, just like

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>for lunch or something, which is what we would do,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>not reconnected. We just connected and then a few hours later,

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we were just hanging out and we just like looked

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>at each other and just started kissing. And we're like, whoa,

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what is happening. That's so cute. I

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>love that. And has he met the kids? Yeah, but

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>he's met them years ago before. Yeah, and you had

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>no feelings for him then, I mean we were we

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>were friends. We were like close friends. I was married,

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant and married and like, um, we would

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>hang out all the time, so Chad like we could breakfast.

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like I used to live at this club

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and um it's like a country club community and he

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was there, so we just all we see each other

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Ah, I know it's found your person.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>That's sweet, I think. So, yeah, are you seeing anybody?

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah? And now, like i mean I'm so scared

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to say yes, Okay, I'm just like I'm afraid to

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like fall, and so I'm just like, how has it

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>been how to give two and a half fish months?

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just talking and like hanging out occasionally and ish okay,

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>um like he can and he like, but like it's

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>just I don't know, I'm so scared to fail. I'm

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>so scared to like, I don't want him to meet

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the kids because I don't want to mess them up.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I just I'm just so scared to

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's hard again. I know, the fil your piece

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>is tough, especially our lives are so public. Yeah, and

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>it's all the things, the nasty things people could say

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and honestly to like the other day I said something

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to him mom, like I know how to do it alone,

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I can do this alone, and it's sometimes easier

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it alone. And I just I don't know.

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I wonder if I'm ever going to be

0:33:54.000 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>able to really like really be all in just kids. Now. Okay,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>how old are you? Thirty eight? Okay? Does your dude

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>have kids? No? Does he want one? Yeah? Okay, so

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>same And I'm having a real big like I don't know.

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I I mean, would you have another one? Yeah? Well

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want Like I'm pregnant right now a week? Yeah, right,

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 1>you do another one? Yeah? I kind of do you

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>know my kids are? I have three kids eighteen months apart,

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and I really felt like I couldn't enjoy the baby

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>stage because Jim and I split with my when my

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>twins my youngest were eighteen months and I was scrambling.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>It was really hard. The intensity of that was tough.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And one of my kids has cerebral palsy and so

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>he has a full blown disability that requires a ton

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>of attention and patience, and so I was just overloaded

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in those early years and I would love to just

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>have one I could really appreciate. Mm hmmmm, yeah, well

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I I mean, it's it's all gonna my girlfriend. I

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get Katherine so her husband. She separated

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>from her husband for a hot minute, and then they

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>got back together and he just went and got He

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>got snipped yesterday and I was like, no, come on,

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>have one. We have three. Yeah, yeah, no, we're done.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>But it is hard. It's kind of weird, like the

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>finality of it is even I don't want another one.

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, but he always said down the road, maybe

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a fourth. I did. I said, like, I could see

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>myself at forty wanting another one, but I don't think

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I do. I'm thirty eight. But we're just too busy,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Like I can barely do anything for the third kid,

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, because they're just so into sports and just

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>so much stuff that I'm like, I don't think we

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>could physically handle it. Megan, when's your birthday? September? I

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>just turned thirty eight, okay, so I'm going to be

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine in like a month, okay. And that's where

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, and then I'm gonna be and then

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get moving. But here's the problem. I

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>don't want to make fast, that's the thing. And that's

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that's where I was like, you know, I just go dated,

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>go find a twenty seven year old or a thirty

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>year old. I don't want to I know I've tried um,

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>but just have the baby and get married later. Well

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>that's what he said. He's like, would you ever? And

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like no, because I'm like, if i'm if,

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I like, I still believe in that silly fantasy, if like,

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, But then I'm like, but I don't want

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to rush like I rushed. That's why I was like,

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was when I met my ex. I

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>was thirty almost thirty or thirty one, and I was like, man,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to have kids now. So yeah, you're fits fine,

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>you cheated. I like you you're cute, Like, let's let's

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>do that, you know, what I mean. And I'm like,

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>damn it, like I didn't I had so much time.

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize I had so much time. Jim. Yeah,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but I was so focused on having babies. Yeah, and

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>we did it and here we are. But here we are.

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>But what a blessing, Megan. I'm gonna get you there

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and saying you know, I know, you're just not the dad.

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I get it right. Um, Okay, so you have a

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 1>new podcast, tell us all about it? Yeah, so intimate knowledge.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>It's it's about my sex and dating life. So we've

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>gotten into a little bit of it on on yours.

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>But it's really juicy and fun and kind of crazy.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that people are seeing a side of Megan

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>King that they did not know existed. And what is

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that side? That's it's that crazy, like crazy, sexy fun Megan.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not the mom. It's not the the mom of

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.479
<v Speaker 1>a child with the disability, or it is just it's

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>it's rated are I love when it comes to like sex,

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you cannot let the kids listen to it. My friend

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>or not even a friend. Somebody on Instagram me a

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>message the other day and they said that they pulled

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>up to a to their kids, um preschool to from

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>carpool I got and my podcast was on, and the

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>teacher heres, and then he started fingering me from behind.

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I would die. He wouldn't even like I can't even

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 1>believe I said that. I mean, it's stuff like that

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that I can't even believe I say, but I just

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>do it over and over and over. Well, it's it's

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>funny because we we do, like we go out and

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>we do some wine down shows like on the road,

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and most of the shows are twenty one and over,

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes there's no age limit. This one person brought

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>like it was a twelve year old, and I'm like,

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 1>some of our skate is talking about blow jobs, you

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And so I'm like, but I'm like,

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? Like it's wind out, So it's like,

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had to like do like a cover

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the ear moment because I'm like, you know, I can't

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>do it now a twelve year old show, right, Like,

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>so we were trying to work around at the best

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>we could. And then I apologize profusely to the father

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and to the I don't think they almost there, um,

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I feel like you should have apologized to you,

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like I brought his daughter up to sing like in

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the end, So it ended up like being it was

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like fine, I don't think he cared. What was the

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>funny part? This sad part is is a twelve or

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>thirteen year old probably now know what a blowjob is, oh,

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee, But I didn't know until I was like fourteen.

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh my, got to have a funny Oh

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 1>can I please tell this real fast? Yes, this love sex.

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I love you talking about. But I have a ten

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>year old. Thank god, she doesn't listen to this. Ten

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>almost eleven. She knows like everything, like we've had a

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>very open discussion and so you know, my husband had

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>a sectomy and so she was like, okay, so why

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>did y'all do that? Like so we don't have any

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>more babies? And she's like, y'all do it? And I

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>was like yes, and I was like what you And

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>she's like, no, y'all do it. She kept saying do

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 1>it and I was like, well, don't all parents do it?

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 1>And she goes how many times? God, you're like more

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>than we ever have. I was like, oh my god,

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you're asking me this. What did you say? Finally,

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>she goes like five and I was like, sure, babe, five.

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>She goes, it's more and I was like, how many

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>kids do I have? She said three and three times,

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 1>so we'll go with that three times. It was hilarious.

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>She just kept saying three times. Yeah, right, Well I

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>used to not be I was the one that didn't

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 1>like to have sex, but you know, times are changing.

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Go girl, Yeah, they said no more to the divorce,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's having sex and I'm like, I'm all for it.

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, like the best possible separation outcome I've ever heard.

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, who do I told her husband? I

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, who knew? Nick? Who knew? Maybe she'll finally

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>let me take her lingere shopping for you to Okay,

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>it's oh my gosh, well okay, well I love that.

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm glad we spoke. Um, I apologize if I overreacted.

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I know that you didn't have any like ill and

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I was just in a bad but I

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>do apologize for if that was. Like I think you're

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>probably more sensitive to me and to me, you're more

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>sensitive than me, and I'm really not very sensitive at all.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And um, I've like incredibly thick skin, and I treat

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 1>others as if they do as well, and I need

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to watch that about myself. And so even though there

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>was no ill intention, I'm sorry for the way that

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you felt. Well again, I appreciate it, but I mean,

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sure I overreacted to it. I think I

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>just have such like a not a hatred. I don't

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>want to hate, because I don't hate. I don't hate,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>but like such like a trigger senses with him that

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't. Yeah, it's just it's like hard

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like even receive anything that's like that. But yeah, I

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, and I'm sorry as well. Okay, yeah, thanks

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>for having we really did. Um. So okay, tell the

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>listeners where they can find you, where they can find

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. So you guys have to listen to me

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>anywhere you find your podcast on I Heart Radio, on

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Spotify wherever. So you gotta listen to intimate knowledge and

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>get all the juicy details. Well, congrats Megan on On

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>on the new Man or you know this new situation

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>happening and English keep me plan, We'll see I'll DM

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>you right now. Alright, um, let's take a break and

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>we will be right back alright, thoughts cat see how

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>great it is to address something and then move on

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>from it. Yeah, but now I feel stupid, Like did

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I overreact? Don't you don't worry. Don't worry about it.

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>We all overreact. I was too sensitive. I was like, well,

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>we're all sensitive to certain things. I'm freaking sensitive as crap,

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>so I can you know, and you feel stupid later,

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I get I'm not saying that you should feel stupid.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I do feel stupid later when I overreact to stuff,

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>but like, I think it's about hearing the explanation and

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>where they're coming from, because then you can go Okay,

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Obviously she didn't mean. She's got rule thick scan. You

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>can tell by talking to her. She's like a tough bitch,

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. So like we're not as I mean I

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>can be. But stuff like that would trigger me too,

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's okay to go Okay, it triggered me.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I overreacted. We addressed it, and now we're cool. Yeah, great,

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel good? Right? Or do you not? So I know,

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel great. I still just feel like stupid, like

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>for maybe being overly sensitive or to do it, because

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like I I don't, I think, And that was

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>like back in February too, so I was probably even

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>more like but I don't, I don't because I just

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would never like tell a friend that,

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>like the X was like hot. I don't know. It's

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just something that you wouldn't do. Yeah, sure, you know

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, And I've had plenty of those conversations.

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>That's just not something I would do. I can see

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>now where I know, I see her, I see where

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>she was coming from, and I feel silly for having

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that overreaction but or or feeling away. But at the

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>same time, you didn't feel. We don't have to feel

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that for our feeling exactly. You can feel however you want.

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>We communicate, we express, we address, and we move. Okay, Well, um,

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know when this airs are were in life

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>will be at the time, but who knows. Maybe it's

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas at this point. Back to you guys later. Bye.

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>How is that is that bad? I almost wanted to

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>cry when you tell me I was ever sensitive, because

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, no, I mean, you can tell she

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 1>is not sensitive, and that's fine. You know, she's definitely

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>not sensitive to stuff. Um, what do you think. I

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 1>thought it was great. Honestly, I loved the whole episode

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and like the resolution that came in on you guys

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 1>had because you guys really do have similar situations and

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 1>have similar feelings that I agree with Katherine, like she's

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>clearly I'm also a sensitive person. So when someone tells

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>me sensitive, I'm like tears. I was like, I knew

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I wanted. I was like ready to hold her back,

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, we're gonna be fine. We're going

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>to either get either hold back tears or I'm like,

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I go, I was really scared. We were, well, we're

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 1>going to end this conversation. He turned it around. Really,

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm totally Sam, and I think you handled it really well.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>And again, she does have tough skin. I think you

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>guys are just very different people and how you handle

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the situations very different. And yeah, but I'm really glad

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:33.919
<v Speaker 1>that it came and I feel like that I could

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>see that really really good. Okay, yeah, I agree,