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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire on Wednesday, October seven.

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Speaker 1: What a thrilling night in sports. You had high drama

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Speaker 1: between the Yankees and the Rays. You had a fun

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Speaker 1: game between the Padres and the Dodgers. Big big war

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Speaker 1: out here in California. But obviously, obviously we have to

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Speaker 1: start with Lakers in the Heat Game four before we

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Speaker 1: get to it. Quick item in house cleaning. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: have a tremendous interview coming up later in the podcast

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Speaker 1: with the great Field Yates. You know him from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: He does fantasy, He is an NFL analyst. He's one

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Speaker 1: of their best guys. Real sharp, young guy, and um,

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Speaker 1: we talked about a lot we disagree on Deak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just put that out there. It's a spirited

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Speaker 1: civil debate and you can't find that kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: anywhere right now because everything's like you're wrong or you're

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Speaker 1: just yelling. And this is like a real good discussion.

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Speaker 1: So definitely enjoy that. Remember, subscribe, rate and review. Um,

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Speaker 1: we are going to do a comment giveaway later this month. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know you guys loved it. So much last month,

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Speaker 1: so we'll do that again. But let's let's dive into

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Speaker 1: Lakers heat. First of all, let's start with the gambling

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Speaker 1: aspect of it. I gave you a daily double. I

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Speaker 1: said the Lakers in the first quarter would cover two

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Speaker 1: and a half. It went up to three. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we move lines on this podcast, but it's possible,

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Speaker 1: and they did cover. Thank you to Caruso and Kuzma

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Speaker 1: big shots there late in the first. But what happened

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game was this is what

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Speaker 1: adds so much drama to games. So the Lakers, after

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Speaker 1: Lebron makes two free throws, had locked up the victory,

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Speaker 1: but the spread was still in doubt, and with one

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Speaker 1: second left, Tyler hero hits the three over the outstretched

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Speaker 1: arm of Anthony Davis and that heat covers seven and

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Speaker 1: a half. That line actually went up to eight um

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Heroes big shot means the heat cover. They

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Speaker 1: of course lost by six, and the Lakers win a

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Speaker 1: lot of places to start. I gotta give Rob g credit.

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Speaker 1: He called Lakers in five. They are one win away

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Speaker 1: from the championship. The stat that everybody jumped on was

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Speaker 1: the Lakers heading into last night, we're fifty five and

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Speaker 1: oh when leading after the third quarter, best mark in

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Speaker 1: NBA history history. A couple other teams have been, you know,

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Speaker 1: sixty and one or whatever. Nobody has been undefeated in

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Speaker 1: the season leading after the third quarter. Lakers now fifty

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Speaker 1: six and oh, Lebron James, listen, he's a closer. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear the Lebron isn't clutch. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: is a fact that on the final two possessions, with

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Speaker 1: the game kind of in doubt, Lakers were leading, they

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Speaker 1: ran Lebron to the corner and it was a Rondo

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis pick and roll. Why well, because you get

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Speaker 1: to put Duncan Robinson in a blender or Tyler hero.

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Speaker 1: The Heat were trying to furiously switch. They had Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Butler on Lebron. But lebronsos to the corner. You've taken

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Speaker 1: the their best defensive player, Jimmy Buckets, out of the play.

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Speaker 1: It was this genius move. I don't know if Lebron

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Speaker 1: called that or Fred Vogel or Anthony Davis or Rondo,

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Speaker 1: but it was a great play decision by the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Rondo goes to the room for the layup and then

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Speaker 1: the next time Anthony Davis buries the three and that's that.

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Speaker 1: I will say this. K c P has been the

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Speaker 1: object of much scorn and much ridicule from Lakers fans.

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Speaker 1: Last year, famously, he was arrested. I don't want to,

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Speaker 1: I butcher what the arrest was. It might have been

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Speaker 1: like a drunken public or something. And he had to

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Speaker 1: wear an ankle bracelet as a member of the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: and on a couple of road trips he had to

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Speaker 1: stay in l a and go in like, you know,

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Speaker 1: jail for the weekend or whatever. It was embarrassing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's a clutch sports UH signy obviously Lebron's rich Paul guys,

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Speaker 1: and they got him to UH stick with the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people did not like that decision. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, k c P probably at his most

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Speaker 1: memorable game as a Laker. Listen in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: the Lakers were up to Jimmy Butler. There's like, I

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Speaker 1: all these nerdy notes during the game. Three minutes left,

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Speaker 1: hits KCP in the corner, boom three pointer. That swing

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Speaker 1: was massive. The Lakers were up to If Butler hits

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Speaker 1: that shot, Lakers are down one. He misses, KCP hits

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Speaker 1: in over Duncan Robinson. I'll tell you guys right now.

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Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson is a legit six ft six That's why

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Speaker 1: would not be in the league. Dougan Robinson is a

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Speaker 1: long guy. He almost got a piece of that case

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Speaker 1: ep lay up, but I love the jelly off the glass.

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Speaker 1: K CP finishes with you know what I think will

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Speaker 1: be his most memorable game as a Laker, fifteen points,

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Speaker 1: five assists, really solid performancer and Danny Green actually chipped

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Speaker 1: in off the bench. Both of those guys contributing. But

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Speaker 1: this comes down to Anthony Davis and his defense on

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. Yes, that was the difference. Now, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it will come out eventually who made this call. And

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Speaker 1: again I'm not taking credit away from Frank Vogel or

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Speaker 1: whoever the assistant coach who was who made this decision.

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Speaker 1: But when the Lakers opened with a D on Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 1: it was like, Oh, I like that, spicy, A little

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Speaker 1: change in Jimmy Butler was reluctant. He had a good

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Speaker 1: start to the game. Still he would get Lakers into

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Speaker 1: pick and roll. But in the fourth quarter you noticed

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Speaker 1: he did not want to attack Anthony Davis. And when

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Speaker 1: he had his memorable what he had forty Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: gassed up. It was tremendous. He had no chance against

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. Of course, he tried to attack him once

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis pinned it against the backboard. Butler at a

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Speaker 1: good game twenty two points, but a D would sag

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Speaker 1: just doesn't even want to take that shot. And you

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Speaker 1: was a stroke, a master stroke by Frank Vogel and

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Speaker 1: the Lakers and Butler. Listen, he was really good and nine.

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Speaker 1: He was also minus eleven for the Miami Heat. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Butler forty three minutes. A guy's a warrior. I love

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. Now, a quick word on the m v

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Speaker 1: thirty five years old, just doing tremendous things. Seven for

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Speaker 1: very clutch performance. But Anthony Davis was unbelievable at the

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Speaker 1: defensive end. And here's the stat that's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: big one. On Wednesday, Anthony Davis in forty two minutes

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Speaker 1: Vocal realized it, like, we can't pull this guy out

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Speaker 1: of the game. I don't know if he played the

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Speaker 1: entire fourth or eleven minutes of it, but a D

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Speaker 1: a slight edge in the MVP voting. Lakers only had

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Speaker 1: four blocks, He had all of them, and he also

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Speaker 1: had nine boards, four assists. I just thought he was

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Speaker 1: He had a big fourth quarter. If you follow me

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Speaker 1: for Fox Sports that Lebron would have over forty six

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Speaker 1: and a half points, rebounds and assists. It looked dead

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Speaker 1: under at halftime he had something like, uh, twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: was an animal. Assists, rebounds, points, and of course those

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Speaker 1: half of a great win for me on that one.

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Speaker 1: But Rob g I I gotta ask you. I know

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Speaker 1: you're a Lebron guy. You know how the voting goes.

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Speaker 1: Will the voters see man Anthony Davis's defense on Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Butler was amazing or will they see damn Lebron's averaging

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Speaker 1: practically a trouble double and he's thirty five. You gotta

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Speaker 1: give it to him. What's your early lean with one

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Speaker 1: game to go, my lean is that Anthony Davis will

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Speaker 1: not win finals MVP. I think it's gonna be Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: and for the narrative reasons and you know, and you

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Speaker 1: can't really go wrong with either guy. But I've said,

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Speaker 1: you know, most throughout this series. I put it out

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Uh, Anthony Davis has been their best player,

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Speaker 1: not just in this series but throughout the postseason. And

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Speaker 1: I think anybody who watches the games, especially in these finals,

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Speaker 1: because they have nobody on their on their roster who

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Speaker 1: the stats probably say Lebron because, like you mentioned, it's

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Speaker 1: almost a twenty eight point triple double. But as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the defense on Jimmy Butler, the clutch three to kind

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Speaker 1: of close it last night, the defensive presence in the middle.

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Speaker 1: has been the difference between what Jimmy, because Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: The difference has been Anthony Davis. So if I had

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Speaker 1: been the best player throughout the post season and in

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Speaker 1: the narrative. So see now that that's weird. I see

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Speaker 1: it the opposite way, rob G. I see it as

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys sportswriters who are in their forties

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Speaker 1: my opinion is they believe that Michael Jordan is the

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Speaker 1: sounds very sinister and almost conspiracy theory ish, but if Lebron,

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Speaker 1: if Lebron doesn't get finals MVP, he wasn't the best

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Speaker 1: player in his team. Michael Jordan got six finals MVPs.

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Speaker 1: I just I can see these guys the self importance

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Speaker 1: rob Gi, I just feel like some of them are

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Speaker 1: probably gonna lean a D. So I just crunched the numbers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lebron has thirty four assists in four games now, so

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Speaker 1: he's averaging eight. Uh, not quite a triple double. However,

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Speaker 1: if he get you get sixteen assists in game five,

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Speaker 1: And again, rob G, I have been steadfast and since

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Speaker 1: he got to l A, if he wins a championship

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Speaker 1: all from Miami. Didn't totally go from the basement, but

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Speaker 1: he got there. I'll have to double check that he

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Speaker 1: goes to three teams. The Calves go basement to the finals,

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Speaker 1: lot of sort of middling teams. So what do we

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Speaker 1: attribute it to? I'm not sure there's a perfect answer. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think you hit on some of the points there.

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Speaker 1: I think this year, though maybe it feels, is like

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Speaker 1: this past off season there was more quarterback turnover than

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Speaker 1: we've seen in a long time. As we know, there

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Speaker 1: was a very robust quarterback market this offseason, but because

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Speaker 1: there was so much change, invariably it leads to some

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Speaker 1: teams that or a lot of teams I should say,

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Speaker 1: that have made a quarterback commitment. But as we know,

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Speaker 1: like quarterback it's don't always go well. So we do

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Speaker 1: have some really you know, obviously, like two years ago,

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Speaker 1: the Giants draft Daniel Jones and it's too soon to

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Speaker 1: count him out. After his rookie season, and it's probably

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Speaker 1: too soon to count him out four games into a

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Speaker 1: second but well, I don't you know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: probably not pragmatic to do so if you're the Giants,

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Speaker 1: right So, but what happened was we had enough teams

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Speaker 1: that went into this year either who had made a

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Speaker 1: quarterback change this offseason or we're already hitched to another quarterback, like,

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Speaker 1: for example, the New York Giants or the Washington football team.

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Speaker 1: And the reality is that as of right now, you

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Speaker 1: can't tell me that Haskins is a surefire long term

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Speaker 1: answer for Washington. Heck, I'm not even convinced to be

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Speaker 1: the quarterback past like week five. As we know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of steam and smoke surrounding that possibility right now.

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Speaker 1: So I would just say that maybe that's part of it,

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Speaker 1: is just how much quarterback turnover there was, and the

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Speaker 1: idea that not all of those changes benefit of the

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Speaker 1: teams dramatically. And when I say quarterback turnover, while I

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Speaker 1: am specifically referring to this off season, I think you

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Speaker 1: have to sort of take it in totality with the

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Speaker 1: past two off seasons and really maybe even the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen off season as well. Um, speaking of quarterback changes,

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Speaker 1: one team that's not gonna be changing anytime soon Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes. We saw them on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football and feel my big takeaway from that. I

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Speaker 1: looked at the schedule. I was like, they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: down to the level of some teams like the Chargers

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Speaker 1: in their division, right and then the Brian Hoyer on

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. But this team is pretty awesome. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, offensively, they can put points on anybody. And

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Speaker 1: I looked at Patrick mahomess history, never lost the game.

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Speaker 1: I think he's twenty eight and seven in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: never lost a game by more than a touchdown, so

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Speaker 1: they're always in the mix. I think this team could

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Speaker 1: seriously go sixteen and O. And before you Scoff Field,

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Speaker 1: they only play as of now, two teams that currently

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Speaker 1: have a winning record, Buffalo and Tampa. Now the Saints

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Speaker 1: are on there, they ultimately will have a winning record

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Speaker 1: there five hundred. But the schedule is a bit of

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Speaker 1: a joke. Do you think sixteen or no is feasible

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. I don't think it's entirely off the

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Speaker 1: table now obviously, it's very difficult to do what's happened

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Speaker 1: just twice in the history of the NFL. And we'll

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Speaker 1: see how things shape up with injuries and how the

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Speaker 1: schedule catches up the teams, or whether it does catch

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Speaker 1: up two teams. Um, it's a fair question though. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought Monday night's game with the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: I actually thought it was just one of those first

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Speaker 1: of all, like two things you can always kint on

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots. They're gonna have a plan and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna play hard. Right. I also thought that that was

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Speaker 1: an emotionally challenging game for either team to be a

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Speaker 1: hundred percent locked into. Right. I mean, you thought on

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Speaker 1: Saturday there was a chance the game I get canceled

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Speaker 1: all again there and then next thing, you know, you

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Speaker 1: gotta turn around and play the game on Monday. It's

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Speaker 1: already a little bit of a challenge for teams to

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Speaker 1: get up with, you know, fourteen thousand stand fans in

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Speaker 1: the stand normally Arrowhead, one of the loudest places in

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Speaker 1: all sports to go and play. So I'm not been

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Speaker 1: against anything with the Chiefs this year. And um, on

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Speaker 1: a bad night for them, and I say bad with

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Speaker 1: almost air quotes, right, but on like a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: bad night, they still find a way to, you know,

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Speaker 1: piece it together with complimentary football. Maybe that's been overlooked

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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs is that were so and and deservedly

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Speaker 1: so fixated on how great the quarterback and how great

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Speaker 1: the offense. Is that defensively they've really become opportunistic, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Honey Badger is always gonna be a player

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Speaker 1: that's gonna make a mark in the course of a game.

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Speaker 1: Like Frank Clark. I mean, he's got a first step

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Speaker 1: coming off the edge that feels borderline on paralleled right

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Speaker 1: now in the NFL. So the Chiefs defense is no

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Speaker 1: joke and something that I think is perhaps a little

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Speaker 1: bit overlooked just because of how good they are offensive.

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Speaker 1: Let me also ask you about Pat Mahomes specifically. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was two weeks into the season and everybody's like

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson m v P. And then you know, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers is obviously there, and there's Josh Allen, who's been tremendous.

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Speaker 1: I was so wrong about Josh Allen. But Field is

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00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: there kind of a Lebron James Field to Mahomes in

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Speaker 1: that he's like the forgotten guy. If you just go basically,

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Speaker 1: who's the best quarterback? Who would you want any one game?

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Speaker 1: You know, some people are gonna say Brady, some people

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Speaker 1: are gonna say Rogers. I'm not begging against Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be the guy. Are people overlooking him?

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Speaker 1: Should he not be in the m v P discussion

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Speaker 1: automatically every year? Yeah, it should start with him every year.

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Speaker 1: We're learning and you know it's gonna be really hard,

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Speaker 1: right because, uh, last year we saw the Chiefs without

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and they actually fared pretty well, right. I

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Speaker 1: think Matt Moore went was a two and one, three

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Speaker 1: and one. Yeah, it was competitive. Right, So people will say, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: isn't the argument that this team is actually better than

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Speaker 1: we give it credit? Four besides Patrick Mahomes. And I think,

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Speaker 1: to myself, it's a good roster. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: it's it has to be an imperfect roster for us

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Speaker 1: to appreciate Patrick mahomes brilliance. Uh yeah, it's a fair

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Speaker 1: it's actually a fair comparison because I do think that

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Speaker 1: the lebron and I'm I'm more football guy than a

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00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: basketball guy obviously, but The Lebron conversation obviously is one

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Speaker 1: that I follow closely every year as we get into

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Speaker 1: the m v P voting part of the NBA calendar,

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Speaker 1: and it's a good one for Patrick Mahomes. I do think,

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Speaker 1: Jason that whether people that vote will concede it or not,

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Speaker 1: I think it's really human to latch onto narratives during

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. I know the NBA has

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Speaker 1: had that, you know, I think that's been more front

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Speaker 1: and center. Right the Russell Westbrook year after k D

548
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: leaves triple double season, basically have to give him the

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Speaker 1: m v P even though the team was not great,

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Speaker 1: and obviously there were players that had a much more

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Speaker 1: decided impact on a team would go on to much

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Speaker 1: more postseason success. But I would say that's with um Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we are there are gonna be

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Speaker 1: years where you know, right now, what's been the most

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00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: thrown around stats of the first month plus of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season, The fact that Russell Wilson has never received

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Speaker 1: an m v P vote. If Russell Wilson keeps up

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Speaker 1: this toward pace, and I don't mean toward, is in

559
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Speaker 1: like kind a throw for sixty touchdowns toward. But if

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Speaker 1: he throws five thousand yards forty touchdowns, Let's say the

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Speaker 1: pics are somewhere around five or fewer, maybe eight or fewer,

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Speaker 1: and they win twelve or thirteen games. I mean, what's

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Speaker 1: the chance that Russell Wilson gets a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: m v P votes And the answer is probably very

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Speaker 1: very hot. Not quite a sympathy victory, but he's gonna

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Speaker 1: definitely get votes. You're right, the media is obsessed with

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Speaker 1: that stat field, you know, and then this next guy

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the media has a weird

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Speaker 1: infatuation with this guy, and I like him, but we

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Speaker 1: need to have an honest Deak Prescott discussion field. You

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Speaker 1: know the quarterbacks, you know the coaches, you know the teams.

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Speaker 1: I just see Deak Prescott as a good quarterback, not

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Speaker 1: not great, not top five. I don't think he's top seven.

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Speaker 1: None of the DeVos A stats bear that out. And

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand the idea how they can you know,

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Speaker 1: people can think, oh, yeah, Jerry's got to give him

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars because he's kind of earned it, because

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Speaker 1: he's been you know, he's a mid round pick and

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Speaker 1: he was paying making nothing fields. He's making like thirty

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Speaker 1: one million this year. They can't afford a defense. They've

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Speaker 1: got an offensive line kind of in shambles. They pay

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Speaker 1: their running back a lot. They pay a Mari Cooper

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Speaker 1: a ton. If you pay Dak forty, this team is

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Speaker 1: going to go nowhere for the next three or four years.

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Speaker 1: And I've people just don't want to hear that argument.

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Speaker 1: How do you handle the Dak Prescott, you know, quarterback

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Speaker 1: situation in Dallas. Yeah, so I think so, okay, some

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Speaker 1: of what you said, I agree with some of that.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to sort of reassess in this

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Speaker 1: regard is that it's not that it's not Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 1: fault or responsibility to decide how much Ezekiel Elliott or

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith or Lyle Collins or anybody else on that

593
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys roster makes right, and that that's just not his

594
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: job at all. And you can't use potentially poor contracts

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00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: paid to other players. And I'm not saying all of

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Speaker 1: the guys that I just mentioned are terrible contracts, but

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00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been heavy handed in some of their negotiations,

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Speaker 1: no two ways about. That's a great point. You can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't say that, Oh, that's that that should be

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Speaker 1: held against Dak. And you know, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I would use the justification that if Dak hit the

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Speaker 1: open market, he would probably sign a contract close to,

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Speaker 1: if not slightly north of Deshaun Watson's deal, because it's

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Speaker 1: the open market, right, I mean, that's that's different than

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Speaker 1: extending your team where you have less leverage. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's part of the it's part

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00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: of the thought process here. It's part of why Dak

608
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: understood how much leverage she had is that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: made him an offer. And you know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: sit here and tell you I had all the nitty

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00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: gritty what the Cowboys best and final offer was before

612
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: the franchise tag deadline passed of something. And let's just say, Jason,

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Speaker 1: it was thirty three and a half million bucks. All right?

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Speaker 1: How are you, as Dak Prescott, gonna take thirty three

615
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars per year when you can

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Speaker 1: bet on yourself for one more season and potentially make

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Speaker 1: I really do believe, like thirty thirty nine forty million

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Speaker 1: dollars per year over a four or five year contract

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Speaker 1: and do so if you hit the open market in

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Speaker 1: whatever situation you desire. Okay, so hold on, that's a

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Speaker 1: great point. But let's let's look at that open market. Okay.

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Speaker 1: You could look around the league and say, okay, some

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Speaker 1: teams eat a quarterback. But I used that Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: example from a couple of years ago with the Vikings. Right,

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00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: so they signed him what do you make like twenty

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Speaker 1: nine million years something around there, and they had a

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Speaker 1: ready made team. They had just gone to what the

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Speaker 1: it was at the NFC championship game they lost with

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Speaker 1: case Keenum to Philly. Okay, and so they pay him

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Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, we got Kirk Cousins, were

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Speaker 1: ready to take that next step, and it didn't really

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Speaker 1: work out. And then what three years, I think they've

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Speaker 1: won one playoff game in New Orleans with Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: maybe one, okay, and then you know, they had to

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Speaker 1: pay the rest of the team and they lose like

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Speaker 1: what five four or five or six starting defenders, and

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Speaker 1: that team is nowhere near the playoffs this year. And

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Speaker 1: in hindsight, I don't know, Field talk me out of it,

639
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Speaker 1: but I don't think it's possible to sign a guy

640
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Speaker 1: to thirty eight million, as you talked about and say

641
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: we can build around Doc. I mean, is there a

642
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: team out there on the open market that would do it?

643
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: Maybe a John Elway in Denver or a team. But

644
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: I look up and down the league. I don't see one.

645
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds good to todack better on yourself. Yeah,

646
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: there will be one. There will definitely be one. And

647
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: here's the reason why is a lot of people at

648
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: the top of these organizations are fickle. You've got owners

649
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: that are impatient, You've got general managers that have no

650
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: choice but to win now. And so this is again,

651
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: this is not reporting, This is not information that I have.

652
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start to like quickly build cases. Right,

653
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: So let's say he hits the open market. What if

654
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: you're Washington, you said, Dwayne Assens is in the answer,

655
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: there's a team, right, just just it is gonna keep

656
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: rifling through these. Hey, what if you're the Bears, you

657
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: can unload Nick Foles. Obviously, Mr Rbiskie, you need a quarterback.

658
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: You wanted to do that. What if Ryan Pace gets

659
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: one more shot and they say we can't draft anybody

660
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: because we're taking seventeen, right, and you get one more

661
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: shot with a good roster, presumably, What if Ben Roethlisberger retires,

662
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: uh if the Steelers and I don't have me. He

663
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: obviously is under contract beyond this season. But what if

664
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm done, I'm good. What if Indianapolis gets

665
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: somewhat down the road but not quite far enough in

666
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers decides I'm gonna go coach that that high

667
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: school team. They already have a job waiting for me. Right,

668
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: you could you could see that situation. What if the

669
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 1: Raiders finally passed the torch on Derek Carr. Right, there's

670
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: a team, But I think, um, you know, would would

671
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: would have a better shot to acquire a quarterback through

672
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: free agency than they would, uh, through the draft. The

673
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: Saints have a lot of money tied up on the cap,

674
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: but if Drew Brees retires, who knows, right, I mean,

675
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna they have a really good roster besides Drew Brees.

676
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Are they gonna want to just, you know, necessarily implicitly

677
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: trust Taysom Hill or Jamis Winston. But if the Jaguars

678
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: are like, you know something, We're closer than we thought.

679
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: I never have Miami. I'm telling you, I'm telling you,

680
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: but but Miami two years ago was building this thing

681
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: back up from the from the bottom right. And then

682
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: who was more aggressive in free agency this past offseason

683
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: than Miami. So teams changed their game plans quickly. So

684
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: I understand that right now, while we don't have a sense,

685
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: there's no reported sense of where Dak would be interested

686
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: because for all we know he intends to be a

687
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: cowboy for life. Never will be a market for Dak Prescott. Now,

688
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: two of those teams makes sense because they're contenders, like

689
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: the Colts, I would I think there's something probably there.

690
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: They have a lot of young guys on that defense.

691
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: They haven't had to pay yet. But you know teams

692
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: that are like the Saints, they gotta pay Kamara. Uh well,

693
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: they did pay Kamar right and Michael Thomas, and those

694
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: contracts add up. And that's what makes the NFL so fascinating,

695
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: is it not. I mean, it's so difficult, given the

696
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: salary cap, to pay a quarterback top dollar and still

697
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: build around it. Yeah, it's a tough one, you know,

698
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: the salary cap it is I think I always find

699
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: it to be one of the things that is most

700
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: compelling and interesting people discuss um in any circle, right,

701
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody loves talking about the salary cap, so

702
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: I always fans are and I don't mean this, I

703
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: include myself as a fan in this conversation. We're obsessed

704
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: with the salary cap. And here's the reason why. If

705
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: our team is bad, we like the salary cap because

706
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: it usually correlates with us having a bunch of cash

707
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: based going phote right, So hey, if you're a team

708
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: like and I'm just gonna use them for an example,

709
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, you're saying to yourself, Hey, I understand that

710
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: we're a long ways away, we've got a ton of

711
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: caps based, though, what if somebody comes available? And then

712
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: when you're a good team, you get obsessed with the

713
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: salary cap because you know, you're worried about the constraints

714
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: and my place on your roster who might have to go?

715
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles, the Saints amongst the teams have

716
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of money. Um that are you know, tied

717
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: to next year's salary cap. The Atlanta Falcons as well,

718
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some interesting decisions. So um,

719
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a super cliche answer, but there

720
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: are more than One way is to skin the cat

721
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: with the salary cat. So I think the good teams ultimately, uh,

722
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: and they don't know. This is gonna sound really ridiculous,

723
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: but I've always used this line. The best way to

724
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: avoid bad contracts in the NFL is to only do

725
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: good contracts, And I would say more so than other sports.

726
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable that, like the public has a pretty

727
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: good beat on when deals are bad the moment they're signed, right, um,

728
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: And in the NFL, while it's not impossibly get out

729
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: of bad deals, it's certainly a lot trickier, right. I mean,

730
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: Brockos while there was was an exception, and I think

731
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks was an exception. David Johnson was an exception

732
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: as well, obviously, but it's hard generally speaking to I

733
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: just I did not realize that all three of those

734
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: deals involved the sex. No, I really wasn't. That was

735
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: just names that came to mind. So anyways, I do

736
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: think that it's possible that some of these actually, um,

737
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: you know that, but just think about the bad deals

738
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: for previous offseasons. A lot of times, like people are

739
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: right on this, Like people are right on it. The minute.

740
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: Some of these deals, um, you know, are are are signs.

741
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: So this Carson Wentz deal is going to be interesting,

742
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: right because they are going to have to start making

743
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: sacrifices here in the next couple of years. And you

744
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: can already see their skill position players are down significantly.

745
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: I know a lot of them are hurt. The defense

746
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: is still pretty good. But when they had Carson Wentz

747
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: on the rookie deal, they were able to build a

748
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: lot of really talented but one of the best rosters

749
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: in the league. I don't know that I could say that,

750
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: you know what, three years after their Super Bowl that

751
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: they're still there. Baltimore is a great example, right Lamar

752
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: on the rookie deal. I think they have the second

753
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: most expensive defense according to football outsiders in the league.

754
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: And you've got you know, you've got really good running backs,

755
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: You've got strong tight end, wide receiver. You see these

756
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: smart teams, go get a receiver DeAndre Hopkins for Kyler Murray. Um.

757
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: A team like Cincinnati is plucky all of a sudden,

758
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: right they could be active next summer. Hey we got Burrow,

759
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: we got an opportunity to make the leap. What why

760
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: not surround Burrow with you know, A J. Green's not

761
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: the guy he was. Should we go out and pay

762
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: lavishly for a wide receiver? Is isn't that the current model? Yeah?

763
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: It is. And you know, by the way, those Bangals

764
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: were a typically aggressive this past offseason and free agency.

765
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: Normally the Bengals are spectators. They just watch it and

766
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: they just wait for schefter notifications like the rest of us. Instead,

767
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: they actually went out there and they made some moves.

768
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: They signed DJ Reader to a four year contract worth

769
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: close to fifty million dollars. He's a defensive tackle. They

770
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: spent money along the offensive line, some of that might

771
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: have been ill fated decisions in the secondary. They signed

772
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: both Trey Waynes and Mackenzie Alexander. Three years for Waynes

773
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: at forty two million dollars. McKenzie Alexander was a one year,

774
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: four million dollar deal. They signed Von Bell to a

775
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: three year, eight teen million dollar deal from the Saints.

776
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: A team that rarely gets in the mix got in

777
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: the mix. So you're right. So one of other things

778
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: that I just I'm sort of thinking about this and

779
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: realizing this as we're having this conversation further, is that

780
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, with these um like with NFL salary cap building,

781
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: because there's fifty three players, it's a lot harder for

782
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: us to find a one size fits all strategy. Not

783
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: that the NBA is simple, but I think we've realized that,

784
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: like a frequently successful model of late is you know,

785
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: star saturated rosters, two to three superstars, and you do

786
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: well around the margins with players that are either drafted

787
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: on rookie deals and obviously those are cost controlled, or

788
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: you find guys that are motivated to compete for a

789
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: championship and are willing to sacrifice a lot of money

790
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: along that journey. So in the NFL it's a little

791
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: bit more difficult as you've got fifty three different players,

792
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: and you know, the quarterback is always going to be

793
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: the biggest variance point on your roster. If you've got

794
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback on the top of the market deal, it

795
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: limits you're ability to spend elsewhere. But if you've got

796
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback on a rookie deal, or you're in a

797
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: really unique situation like Cam Newton with the Patriots this year,

798
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: it allows you to do some different things you wouldn't

799
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: necessarily be able to do um if you had a

800
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz or if you had, you know, at the

801
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: top level of Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes. Last question,

802
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: Field Yates, let me ask you about what I think

803
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: is probably the most fascinating Week five game. I'm just

804
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: curious as to your breakdown. Colts at Brown's cults are

805
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: favored by two and a half, and it's looks like

806
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: it's headed towards three. Indie is the stat darling right

807
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: now there at the near the top of the d

808
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: v o A charts for efficiency. I know they've played

809
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of a week schedule. UM. And the Cleveland Browns

810
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: are the very public. Oh my gosh, they're three and one.

811
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: They just hung like almost half a hundred on the Cowboys. Um.

812
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: And any thoughts here on cults at Cleveland, Yeah, you

813
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: bar the scheduled part of Indie because that's been one

814
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: of the criticisms that I've seen. I had a stat

815
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: earlier on Tuesday about the Packers and like a really

816
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: historic start with some of the stuff that they were doing,

817
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: um offensively, and people immediately retorted with, you know, a

818
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: lot of it was this is awesome, this is great. Um,

819
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: packers are are awesome. And and and once again Aaron Rodgers, Rocks,

820
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: and then there were some that were like, dude, they

821
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: played like some awful, awful teams. And I always say, like,

822
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: it's not they don't they don't choose their schedule right.

823
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: And beyond that is you also have a like, you know,

824
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't like just because they have played a week

825
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: schedule the Colts. I would say, that's a fair assessment, Like,

826
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, it could also be that they eventually they're

827
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: still a pretty darn good defense. It would be really

828
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: interesting matchup. So I think it's a good litmus test

829
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: with the Colts defense because the Browns are the most

830
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: explosive offense they faced so far, even without Nick chubb Um,

831
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has been a much improved player so far

832
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: this year. I think he's kind of a lever player

833
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: for them, like if he continues to play really well.

834
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: And I think in a lot of ways, playing really

835
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: well for Baker is avoiding the egregious mistakes and playing

836
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: with a certain confidence and composure. I don't need Baker

837
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: Mayfield throwing for three and fifty yards in a game

838
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: to feel as though he's playing at a really high

839
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: level and what the Browns need to win. If that

840
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: can keep up, then Cleveland's got a chance to be frisky.

841
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: And my last point on Cleveland that I want to

842
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: continue to be consistent on is because for the Browns,

843
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: because they've lived in the bottom of the NFL standings

844
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: for basically the past two decades, when they start to

845
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: do some nice things, Jason, our immediate reaction is, Okay,

846
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: how like are they a Super Bowl contender? Can they

847
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: hang with the Chiefs? I'm like, hold on, there's a

848
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: stage in between being the worst team in the NFL

849
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: and being ready to beat the Chiefs that I think

850
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Speaker 1: is totally acceptable. Right, we see teams on the rise,

851
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it takes some time for teams to reach their apex,

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Speaker 1: and even the Chiefs I understand it is a rather

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Speaker 1: rapid assense, but like that first year when they played

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Speaker 1: the Patriots in the a f C Championship Game, it

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00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: felt kind of like there was still one more level

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Speaker 1: to them. Well, that's what we saw, one more level,

857
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: and they've now reached that level. For the Browns, I

858
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: think it's a handful of levels before they get to

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City threshold, but at least they've started to

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Speaker 1: like there at least only up escalator as opposed to

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Speaker 1: the down escalator where my jets are Unfortunately, all right, Field,

862
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Speaker 1: take great stuff. Man, we won't get into the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I'll save that for next time after they fired. All

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Speaker 1: right man, hey a good stuff. Keep up the good

865
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Speaker 1: work and all you want to plug anything you I

866
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: know your Mr Fantasy and you've got like hair products

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Speaker 1: that you're selling now, are you. That's very lucrative good agenting. Right, Yeah,

868
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Speaker 1: he's a great guy. Yeah, it's right. We share, we

869
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Speaker 1: share representation, so that certainly works. Um that they do

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Speaker 1: a great job. And what I would say here is

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00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: in terms of plugging things, I just want to know

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Speaker 1: when your Jets podcast comes up. That's what that's what

873
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm plugging. I'm plugging your Jets podcast for you. I

874
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: want to listen to what I'll start when they get

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00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence Tea please I'm ready for Well, that's as

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00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: last thing I'll say, because I know we gotta go

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00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: here is it's a long ways away. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's one of the most interesting conversations and debates that

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Speaker 1: will have that I don't there's not a right and

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00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: there's not a wrong answer. Out of the gates is

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00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: if the Jets had the first pick. Do you keep

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00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and trade the pick? Do you basically put

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00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: it up for auction? Do you trade Sam Donald and

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Speaker 1: and draft Trevor Lawrence. I don't think you keep both

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00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: of them. I think that's probably uh, that's bad for

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00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: both parties if you draft Trevor Lawrence and still keep

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald as the backup. This is not the same

888
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: conversation as Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen, because not not

889
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Speaker 1: even close. I think it would be a really fascinating

890
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Speaker 1: conversation for the Jets to happen at some point. I feel,

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00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: isn't it a little I mean, the new GM did

892
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Speaker 1: not draft Donald, and once Gaze gets bounced, the new

893
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: coach is not tied to Donald. So to me, it's

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00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: pretty automatic. You draft Lawrence and I think you make

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Speaker 1: do you make it an open competition? I don't think

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00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: you make it an open competition? And the reason why

897
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: is that some court like the pressure it would immediately

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00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: place on Trevor Lawrence, and it is that like, let's

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Speaker 1: say he comes out of the gates, and I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine the Jets go from what they have right now

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00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: the skill group to looking like the chiefs out there

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00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: with the skill group by the starts with twenty one season.

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Speaker 1: So I think if you bring in Trevor Lawrence, part

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Speaker 1: of what you're signing up for is the bumps along

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Speaker 1: the along the road, right, I mean, it's it's gonna

906
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: be some uh, some growing page. It's gonna be some

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00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: days where you wonder if you know he wishes the

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Speaker 1: ex stated Clemson for one more year, and then they're

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00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: gonna be moments where it's brilliant and you're gonna say

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Speaker 1: to yourself, Wow, this is why Trevor Lawrence currently and

911
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: we're having this conversation early October, is regarded as the

912
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: best quarterback prospect probably since Andrew Luck and maybe right

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00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: there since like the eighty three draft class. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's how how that's how how excited we are about

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence right now, All right, field, I won't take

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Speaker 1: up any more of your time. Thanks a lot, man,

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work and good luck enjoying the

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Speaker 1: season and with your Fantasy nine teams. Yeah, I'll take

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Speaker 1: three championships that could happen alright, man,