1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: are you. You are here that makes this the stuff 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Through the magic of editing, 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: we are coming to you on July seventh, twenty twenty five. 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: So happy a retrospective Fourth of July to everyone. You 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: had a good one? Hot dogs, fireworks. 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: Hope everyone saw some works. 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, We're only a couple of days into firework 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: cleanup time, so feeling good. 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: And hope everybody's dogs had an okay weekend. 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 5: I bought it absurd giant pack of fireworks from Leedal 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 5: back in Atlanta. I'm currently on the road and i 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 5: only have lit one of them so far, and I'm 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 5: not even gonna get to them for Fourth of July 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 5: because I'm not gonna be hoped. So I'm gonna have 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 5: to have a belated firework display of my own. 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: There's always fireworks in Atlanta, you know what I mean. 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: There's also I'll send this to you guys offline, but 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: a good friend of mine recently sent video footage of 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: an explosion at a fireworks store, and it is exactly 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: as you might picture in picture. So I hope everybody 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: stays safe. One beautiful gift that came to the United 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: States just before July fourth. It's something we hadn't talked 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: about on our previous Strange News, but we had mentioned it. 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: Factions in the United States were about to sell as 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: much public land as possible to private entities in the 34 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: course of negotiations with a new very large bill that 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: may or may not be passed by the time this 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: comes out. Thankfully, the move to sell off all of 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: all of that land to private entities has been pulled 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: from the bill, so National Parks Soldier on kind. 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: Good to hear it. 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 5: Good to hear it from now talking about the BBB, 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: I reckon the BBB, the big beautiful bill. 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: Ah, yes, I thought you've met better Business Bureau and baths. Yeah, yeah, 43 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: so we are. We are always endeavoring to start with 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: something a little positive. If we can. In this program, 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: we are going to learn some interesting studies about cheese. 46 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: We're going to continue a little bit of our ICP 47 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: associated phase. We're going to talk EV's very excited about that. 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: We're going to get into some weird science, which I 49 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: think we're all very excited about. Weird weird side. So 50 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: before we do any of that, how about we pause 51 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: for a word from our sponsors, and then we travel 52 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: across the planet to a nation that may be unfamiliar 53 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: to a lot of people in the States, and we 54 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: have returned. Guys, do you ever mess with wiki travel? 55 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: No? I don't know about wiki travel. 56 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is. 57 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: We've mentioned it briefly on the show before, so every 58 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: we all know Wikipedia, Wiki, Wikipedia, and of course we'd 59 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: be remiss not to mention wiki fee. Wiki travel is 60 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: a as we discussed previously, it's a it's a pretty 61 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: interesting open source kind of guide to countries, regions, and 62 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: cities throughout the human planet. I don't know if they 63 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: have a they have a wiki travel article on the moon, 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: but hopefully it's on the way. If you go to 65 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: the wiki travel article for the country of Tuvalu, then 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: you will see you will see some interesting things. This 67 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: is a tiny island nation. Picture it like Oceania. It's 68 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: in the South Pacific Ocean. The closest big continent there 69 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: is going to be Australia and this archipelago has a 70 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: lot of history to it. But similar to maybe the 71 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: Marshall Islands or American Samoa, or the Solomon Islands and 72 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: especially the Maldives, this is in trouble right now as 73 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: we're recording, over a third of the people residing in 74 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: this island nation have applied for what Australia is calling 75 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: a climate visa, and that's because Tuvalu is sinking beneath 76 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: the waves. 77 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: These would be considered climate refugees, right. 78 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's It's one of the first visas of 79 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: its kind. The idea is that a climate visa, as 80 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: you mentioned, can make somebody be considered a refugee, not 81 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: for human rights issues, not for political issues, or for 82 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: religious persecution, et cetera, et cetera, but instead due to 83 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: being at high risk of unstoppable, inevitable consequences of climate change. 84 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: So right now tu volup against pretty small country. It 85 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: has a population of eleven thousand people on nine atolls 86 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: scattered across the Pacific between Australia and Hawaii. And if 87 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: you want a good primer on this, folks, then check 88 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: out Reuter's, check out NBC News. It's it's not looking good. 89 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: And even tu Vlu's own ambassador to the UN, Tapugao, 90 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: he said that he was startled by the huge number 91 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: of people vying for this opportunity, especially because we all 92 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: know how these kind of visas end up working, especially 93 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: in the West. Not everybody who applies gets. 94 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: One, you know, sure, And I mean I can imagine, 95 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: with climate change being what it is, that these situations 96 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: might become increasingly common and these visas might become increasingly 97 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: in demand. 98 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: Right. You nailed it there, because the total number of 99 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: people in Tuvalu seeking this visa is right right, As 100 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: of a few days ago, it's more than four thousand people, 101 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: four thousand and fifty two of those eleven thousand residents. 102 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: The applications close on July eighteenth, so there's still time 103 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: to apply, but there is an annual cap of allowable 104 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: visas per the Nation of Australia. That annual cap is 105 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty. Most people are not going to 106 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: get it. And they're going to have to find something 107 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: else to do. 108 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: That is a low number. 109 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: That is a very low number, especially considering the higher 110 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: numbers of play. By twenty fifty, the boffins at NASA 111 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: project daily tides will submerge half of the main toll 112 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: of the biggest area in Tuvalu, the place called Funafuti, 113 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: which is home to sixty percent of the nation's inhabitants. 114 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: The people living there are on a strip of land 115 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: that can, at its narrowest be as small as sixty 116 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: five feet across. 117 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: I mean, it makes me think of like all the 118 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 5: increasingly damaging and devastating storms hitting places in the US, 119 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 5: and specially places on the coast like Florida, where there's 120 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: people going to go. If these things continue apace, you know, 121 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: and worse in it just seems like they kind of 122 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: make it work and they sort of build it into 123 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: their expectations of what life in that part of the 124 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: country is. But I just feel like it's going to 125 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 5: get really really cannibal really quickly. 126 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: Right, And current estimates always caveat something like given the 127 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: information now, given what we project will happen in terms 128 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: of temperature rise and sea level rise, then the following 129 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: things will occur. Right, they plug in the variables, But 130 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: if you look at the majority of studies, especially the 131 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: newer ones, they find that those variables are themselves escalating. 132 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: So what was projected to be, you know, x amount 133 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: of degrees temperature wise, turns out to be a larger number, 134 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: which means that the time window will accelerate. So we 135 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: want to just first off say tu Vlu is an 136 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: amazing place. We have not personally visited. We'd love to 137 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: hear your experiences if you have ever been lucky enough 138 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: to spend time there. We are still let's see if 139 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: this segue works. We're still we're still going through our 140 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: cult phase. We don't know anything about possible cults on Tuvalu, 141 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: but we do know a Russian cult leader has been 142 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: sentenced to twelve years in prison, despite you know, realizing 143 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. 144 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 5: M I think they get him a religious persecure Yeah, yeah, 145 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 5: I don't know. 146 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you can get a visa 147 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: for that. Can you apply? Yeah, to be the like 148 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: a cult leader. 149 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: Visa, a savior visa, a Savior of Messiah visa. 150 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 5: We didn't talk about this in the cult discussions, guys, 151 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: but like, are there any cults that get tax exempt status? Like, 152 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: at what point is your religion a cult or your 153 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: cult or religion and qualify for tax exemption. A lot 154 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 5: of people say signology as a cult and it gets 155 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 5: mega tax exempt status. 156 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: So I feel like there's a little bit of a 157 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: slippery slope there, or you know, some special treatment depending. 158 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you can register of religious entity like 159 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: an organization and get that status if you want it. 160 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm Shinriko did for sure. We also know that we 161 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: also know that it is it's not particularly easy, but 162 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: almost any set of practices and beliefs can be registered 163 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: as an official religion, at least here in the United States. 164 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: Some of the big things are you know, your tenants 165 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: cannot include things that are clearly crimes. You can't be like, hey, 166 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: we started this religion because we are going to kill 167 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: all of the Welsh of the public, yes, and or 168 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: defraud the public. So we again, still we're going through 169 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: this cult phase. We want to hear your favorite local cults. 170 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: If favorites not the word, maybe the ones that fascinate 171 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: you the most. The Russian national We're mentioning his guy 172 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: named Sergey Torop. He is known to his followers as 173 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: Vision and the organization he founded in nineteen ninety one 174 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: is the Church of the Last Testament. Very humble name, 175 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: and he said he's a former locksmith and traffic warden, 176 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 3: and speaking with the Guardian in two thousand and two, 177 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: he said, it's all very complicated, but to keep thinks simple, yes, 178 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: I'm Jesus Christ, which is just such a banger line. 179 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: It's quite the claim, guys. 180 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 5: Thinking about you, matt specifically, I propose that we get 181 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 5: to work on some sort of cult leaders you don't 182 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 5: know or even we'd include the ones that you do 183 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: know that are more famous. Magic, the gathering style trading 184 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 5: card game. We're the only power they all have is 185 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 5: charisma varying degrees. 186 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: That's an interesting that's an interesting concept. How would the 187 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: mechanical unclear? 188 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: I put that to you, Mattie, I'd say it's more 189 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: of a D and D style thing where we all 190 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: get to play different characters. 191 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: I want to be. 192 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: Marshall apple Way, That's all I'm saying. I just think 193 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 5: he's got all the power, he's got the space powers. 194 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: I want to be John Oliver representing our Lady of 195 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: perpetual exemption. 196 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, that was a great episode by 197 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 3: Oliver and the gang. I would go with I know, 198 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: I think I'm good where I'm at. 199 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: Okay, just be one of those. 200 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: We do have one more thing before our next break, 201 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: which is fascinating. Look, well, we can get to the 202 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: tradecraft stuff later. The Nation of Iran is threatening to 203 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: They have hacked part of the White House. They are 204 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: threatening to release one hundred gigabytes of Trump Aid emails 205 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: from people who thought they were speaking in confidence, including 206 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: some folks like Roger Stone. We'll wait and see if 207 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: that actually happens or if that's just smoke and mirrors. 208 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: A drug cartel has successfully hacked an FBI officials phone. 209 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: But more importantly, Brenning fans of the Tooth Fairy, we've 210 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: got some weird news. There seems that that mythological figure 211 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: was onto something. Now, when when did you guys stop 212 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: doing tooth fairy stuff with your kids? 213 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 5: Or did you I did it a little bit. I 214 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: don't remember leaning into it super hard though, Matt. 215 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did it a tiny bit, but it 216 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: was just sillies like he I think he had an 217 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: understanding that dad is kind of joking on what's going 218 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: to happen in it, and yeah, and then I showed 219 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: him the teeth. At some point he's got he's got 220 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: a little plastic container that has his baby teeth in it. 221 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: Oh, there's a cult power in that. Yeah. The tooth 222 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: fairy is an interesting thing here, especially in the West, 223 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: because it's kind of it's understood, right, not in a wink. 224 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: There's not any kind of apocalyptic consequence, right to not 225 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: messing with the tooth fairy. It's not going to be 226 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: the end of the world, right that you put the tooth, 227 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: you put the baby tooth under your pillow, whatnot, and 228 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: then depending on how inflation goes or how cool your 229 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: parents are, you get some kind of financial compensation. So 230 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: it's a neat thing for kids. But it turns out, oh, 231 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: we should do a history of the tooth fairy on 232 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: ridiculous history. By the way, I think that's a pretty 233 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: banger idea. It turns out that the legend of the 234 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: tooth fairy may have been onto something because new research 235 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: shows that stem cells from extracted wisdom teeth are quote 236 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: medical gold and capable of treating multiple diseases. I had 237 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: no idea about this. Does anybody here still have their 238 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: wisdom teeth? 239 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: Yes? 240 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been instructed to have them removed, and I 241 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: have put it off indefinitely, but I definitely still have them. 242 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 243 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: It's just a group of marauding dentists in the post 244 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: apocalyptic world that just extracts those teeth and heals people. 245 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the tooth takers. 246 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, but they're doing it for the greater good, right, 247 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 7: that's right, sure, yeah, that's what people love to hear 248 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 7: when they're getting pieces of their mouth ripped apart. 249 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: The reason this is fascinating is that every wisdom tooth 250 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: has a soft core within it we should call a 251 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: dental pulp. Terrible name, but pretty accurate. What we've discovered 252 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: is that of the roughly ten million wisdom teeth that 253 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: are removed in the United States every year, most go 254 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: to wastebends. Most go to biohazard trash piles. 255 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 6: Right. 256 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: And I don't know about you guys, but I always thinking, 257 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: I remember feeling it was it was strange the way 258 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: my dentists would kind of shift their energy when I said, oh, 259 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: can I keep the tooth and then dil if we 260 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: get some weird, ominous music. There's a turn and they're 261 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: they're like, keep the two. Why would you want to 262 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: keep the two? 263 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: Thinking? 264 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: What the hell are you guys doing with the teeth. 265 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: It's a necklace, dude. 266 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: It's from my necklace. There are companies that now are 267 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: offering preservation kits to turn your tooth into like a 268 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: long term collectible thing or a medical asset. Because dental 269 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: pulp has stem cells, and unlike embryonic stem cells or 270 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: blood stem cells cord blood stem cells, this stuff can 271 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: be collected and harvested with very few ethical concerns because 272 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: the argument will always be where are you gonna throw 273 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: it away? Unless you're Ben's creepy dentist. I know he 274 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: was up to something. I just can't figure out what 275 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: These stem cells though. To continue that point, they can 276 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: ease motor symptoms in Parkinson's because they can replace dopamine 277 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: making neurons. At least that's what recent experiments with a 278 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: rodent show. In All's Teimer's research, the same cells may 279 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: be able to create secrete growth factors that protect your synapsi's. 280 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: They may slow the build up of toxic proteins. You 281 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: can see already a lot of a lot of strange 282 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: bleeding edge science here from the Humble Wisdom Tooth and 283 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: the Tooth Fairy. For more information, go to earth dot com. 284 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: Jordan Joseph, the staff writer, breaks it down and gives 285 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: an excellent introduction to this. I could also make a 286 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: personalized medical plan for you. Like imagine you have your 287 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: wisdom teeth removed, and instead of it being tossed away 288 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: or coveted by some creepy dentists, it can now be 289 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: the stem cells within that pulp can now be used 290 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: to address possible medical concerns you may have down the road. 291 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: Isn't that similar to the way Peo we'll keep their placenta 292 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 5: or certain aspects of that. 293 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: I think that's more for you know, posthemity delicacy. No, 294 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm just joking, but no, theoretically, yes, there are stem 295 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: cells present in that placenta. That's one of the main 296 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: reasons that it was, you know, viewed as a cool thing. 297 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: I think it's very different ingesting stem cells like that 298 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: versus what Ben's talking about here, where you're gonna, I guess, 299 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: utilize those cells to create more cultures of some kind 300 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: or do extra things with right. 301 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's weird because we're learning more and more 302 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: about how resilient the human body can be, right, and 303 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: how these things can be can be used for unforeseen 304 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: medical advantages, things we would never have pictured. It also 305 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: reminds me there's a weird exploration. We'll get to it. 306 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: Ridiculous history, I'm sure. It also reminds me of the 307 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: deep folklore and mythology around teeth, you know what I mean? 308 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: We all remember. I think some of those fairy tales, 309 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: like the idea that if you, for instance, had had 310 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: a bag of dragon teeth and you threw them out 311 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: in a field, then soldiers would spring up overnight. That 312 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: might be a little too Russian or Eastern, but I 313 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: don't know visibly. You know that awesome? Good? Okay, so 314 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: it wasn't just making that up awesome, I don't know. 315 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: Teeth are just such a weird part of the body, 316 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: and we want to hear your stories about teeth. About dentistry, 317 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: we did an episode a while ago. Stuff they don't 318 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: want you to know about dentist or something to that effect, 319 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: several years back. Do you guys remember that. I can't 320 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: remember it. I think one of us had to have 321 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: a root canal or something which launched a thousand ships there. 322 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I remember that. Oh yeah. 323 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: So we also want to hear from dentist in the 324 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: crowd right to us, what are the things more people 325 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: should know about dentistry and about the weird magic of teeth. 326 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: I'm going through toothphase, guys. I've got a horror story. 327 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: I got to send you cold the Judas tooth, and 328 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: I I don't know, man, there's something creepy about teeth, especially. 329 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: Like people keeping them. 330 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 5: I don't know, Like you said, there is some sort 331 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 5: of like, I don't know, witchcraft vibes around keeping these 332 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 5: little pieces of human bone. 333 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if it's your kid, you get a pass 334 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: right because it's your kid and you're helping the kid 335 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: build memories. But if you're you know, you're dating someone 336 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: and you say, hey, uh, you went to the dentist 337 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: recently and things are going pretty well in this relationship, 338 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: could I have that tooth? 339 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 340 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 5: Or maybe or maybe just don't string your kid's teeth 341 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 5: up into like a necklace or something and like wear 342 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 5: it under your clothes. That'd be weird. 343 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh. And if you disagree with that, 344 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: we would still love to hear from you. We're gonna 345 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: pause for a word from our sponsors. Please write to 346 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: us with your weird cult teeth and two blue stories conspiracy. 347 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio dot com will pause for a word from our 348 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: sponsors and return with more strange news. 349 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: And we have returned with more strange news. I am 350 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: going to. 351 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: Lead off with a bit of a ridiculous crime story 352 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: that also is a bit of a callback to a 353 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 5: recent discussion that you started, Matt, about the very beloved 354 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 5: Detroit based pop brand Fago, also beloved by juggalos the 355 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 5: world over. 356 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: Fans of the insane clown posse. 357 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 5: A would be bank robber was foiled, I guess by 358 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 5: police all because of his love of the red pop 359 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 5: flavor of Fago. An individual went into a lending office 360 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: trying to cash a fraudulent check in the Saginaw area 361 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 5: of Michigan, and when this did not go well for him, 362 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 5: he took the teller hostage and essentially demanded money. The 363 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 5: irony here, maybe that's the wrong word in the Elanis 364 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 5: Morisset sense of it all is that this was not 365 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: a place that had cash on hand at all. They 366 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 5: couldn't have cashed the check even if it was legitimate. 367 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: Authorities were notified and the would be heister had his name, 368 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 5: by the way, it was Quentin m Allen, and the 369 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: bank in question is the Mercantile Bank. This took place 370 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 5: on Friday, the twenty seventh of June. When negotiators made 371 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: contact with Alan. He requested one fago Red Pop beverage, 372 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: which was flown into him by drone and dangled outside 373 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: of one of the bank's windows. When Alan peeked his 374 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: head outside to grab his delicious frosty beverage, a Michigan 375 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 5: police sniper took the shot on from the roof of 376 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 5: a nearby AutoZone, fatally wounding Alan, at which point police 377 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: entered the facility and rescued the employee who's being held hostage, 378 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 5: who is then treated for non life threatening injuries. An 379 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 5: ad oupt piece on Jelapnik that I'm reading from the 380 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: writer here, Justin Hughes ended with the question of whether 381 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: or not the Red Pop was harmed in this. In 382 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: these proceedings, it's not clear whether it was damaged. 383 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 6: Wow, isn't that wild? 384 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: I really loved? 385 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 6: Is Red Pop that brutal? 386 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: Everything about it? 387 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: Is? 388 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: It? 389 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: Is off, You're right, like the dangling of it, the 390 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: like using it as a lure, you know, I mean, 391 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: it's it's funny, but it's also tragic for sure, no 392 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: question there. 393 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is a person who is in everything 394 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: else aside. They're in a very high stress environment at 395 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: this point, so they may not be thinking as rationally. 396 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: Hostage negotiators or negotiators in general, are very talented at 397 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: leveraging that instability. It feels like you would have had 398 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: to you, I would have had to know something was 399 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: up right. Why are they dangling it out here? Why 400 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: do you want me to reach out and expose myself? 401 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: But this person must have been under such mental duress 402 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: that they didn't think it through. 403 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: Well, it would appear they didn't think a lot of 404 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 5: things through in terms of the ability for them to 405 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 5: cash af fraudulent check at this particular location of this 406 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 5: bank where it was much more of like a place 407 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 5: where you would meet with a banker to secure a loan, 408 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 5: but it was not the kind of place that had 409 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 5: like stockpiles of cash. I think they had an ATM 410 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 5: on the premises, but that was about it. So Yeah, 411 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 5: the writer here in jeloptin points that out as well, 412 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 5: that there was quite a bit of not thinking things 413 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 5: through going on. So we'll jump from that one to 414 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 5: another ridiculous crime story out of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which is 415 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 5: very close to a place where I used to live, Birmingham. 416 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: My mom actually taught at a college in Tuscaloosa, a 417 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: music college, or she taught in the music program at 418 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 5: believe it was the University of Alabama, whatever the one 419 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 5: in tuscal Losa is. 420 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: It's a big football school. 421 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 5: In any case, police in Tuscaloosa are looking for help 422 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 5: and identifying a suspect who robbed a gas station there 423 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 5: in Duncanville while dressed as Scooby Doo, the cartoon character 424 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 5: brought row Indeed, that made the headline good call Ben. 425 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 5: This individual is seen on CCTV wearing like what you 426 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 5: might call a kigaroomy style costume, like a snuggie with 427 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 5: the attached hood that you know, of course, resembles Scooby 428 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 5: Doo the Dog. 429 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 8: He was in fact only wearing the hood in certain shots, 430 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 8: and other shots you see him wearing a green ski 431 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 8: mask that the writer from CBS forty two News AJ 432 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 8: Holliday points out very much the same color as Shaggy's 433 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 8: T shirt. Scooby doos, of course, beloved master and sandwich aficionado. 434 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 8: That's really all we've got on that one, guys. It 435 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 8: was a funny one to mention and follow up and 436 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 8: maybe a little less tragic at this point because no 437 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 8: one was injured. This individual was just reportedly responsible for 438 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 8: taking cash and coins. He stands about five foot nine, 439 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 8: it's about six feet tall. This took place at the 440 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 8: quick stop on Highway eighty two at around three forty 441 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 8: five am, but no one was harmed, and this individual 442 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 8: was not taken out by snipers from a nearby rooftop 443 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 8: or lured with a Scooby snack, that is what they 444 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 8: would have lured him with, not a red pop. 445 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 5: So finally, let's move on to my main story, which 446 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 5: I think y'all will find interesting. This is certainly something 447 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: that we have discussed adjacent Lee, the idea of how 448 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 5: food and different things that we consume may may affect 449 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: our dreams and or nightmares. There's a couple of organizations 450 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 5: in this story that I think are named incredibly. First off, 451 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 5: we've got Canada's McEwan University and their lab there let's 452 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 5: see Dream and Nightmare Lab at the Center for Advanced 453 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 5: Research in Sleep Medicine, a doctor Tor Nielsen, who is 454 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 5: the head researcher for a study looking at how cheese 455 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: and dairy and sweets and various the kind of snacks 456 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 5: can affect our sleep quality and the severity of nightmares 457 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 5: and this may be as a result of varying degrees 458 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 5: of lactose intolerance. The researchers point out that lactose intolerance 459 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: is very much a spectrum, and really the only folks 460 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 5: that maybe identify themselves as being lactose intolerant are the 461 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: ones that have extreme versions of it that can absolutely 462 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 5: upend their digestion and cause all kinds of really nasty 463 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 5: problems that are unignorable, and they may have to take 464 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 5: a lactate if they want to try some ice cream 465 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 5: or drink some milk or what have you. But there 466 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 5: are many other folks that exist somewhere on the less 467 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 5: severe side of that spectrum and may have no idea 468 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 5: that that's the case. The head researcher of this project 469 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 5: to this the first one in terms of what they 470 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 5: were looking at here was that people who had lactose 471 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: intolerance were reporting more nightmares and the severity of their 472 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 5: symptoms associated with the severity of the nightmares, so a 473 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 5: linear relationship is there. He also reported that food allergies 474 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 5: are generally are also associated with nightmares in a very 475 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 5: similar way, also finding that an unhealthy diet, specifically referring 476 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 5: to snacking before bed can cause these kinds of problems, 477 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 5: including restless. 478 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: Nights and poor quality sleep. 479 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 5: By unhealthy, he says, I mean eating very close to bedtime, 480 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: but also not depending on your internal signals or when 481 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 5: you're hungry and when you're full. So it is kind 482 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 5: of mindless, food noise based snacking that I think a 483 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: lot of folks out there can probably identify with something 484 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: I've certainly struggled with myself and not gonna lie. I 485 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: have noticed that if I have like a sweet treat 486 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 5: or something I really like those little kinder chocolate bars 487 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 5: before bed, I do sometimes have kind of more wacky 488 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 5: nightmares or more vivid dreams that would probably border on 489 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 5: what you might call a nightmare. Sometimes a dream that's 490 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 5: just super weird and distressing. Maybe it's not horrific, but 491 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: I do wake up in some somewhat of an uneasy state. 492 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 5: Let's just wrap it up with this and then we'll 493 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 5: pass it around to the group. Many people don't know 494 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: their status when it comes to lactos intolerance. I mean 495 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: it's a kind of spectrum, right. There's very severe cases 496 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 5: of lactics intolerance and then very you know, mild cases. 497 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 5: The problem is that people will dose themselves with dairy. 498 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 5: I love that concept according to their symptoms. You know, 499 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 5: the doctors in fact tell people don't just quit entirely 500 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 5: if you have a mild case. People don't always judge 501 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 5: this accurately or adhere to a strict enough diet, so 502 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 5: they do end up getting these symptoms when they're sleeping, 503 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: as they do end up affecting their dreams. The other 504 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: organization I wanted to point out that I think has 505 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 5: an incredible name is the British Cheese Board. I mean, 506 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 5: is it a pun on purpose? Because it is and 507 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 5: it should be, and if it's not on purpose, then 508 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: I love it. The British Cheese Board published a study 509 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 5: many years ago. He said, I'm the researcher that looked 510 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: at different kinds of cheeses and they claimed in their 511 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: cheese study that they saw different patterns in dreams depending 512 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: on the type of cheese that had been consumed when 513 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 5: in particular, in particular that they noted cheddar maybe they 514 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 5: said might triggered dreams about celebrities. However, there's a conflict 515 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 5: of interest here in that the cheeseboard itself ran the 516 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 5: study and it was never published in any kind of 517 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: scientific journals. So pop probably takes some of that with 518 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 5: a bit of a grain of salt. But they do, 519 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 5: you know, encourage folks out there who are consuming cheese 520 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 5: products before bed to keep a little pad of paper 521 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 5: by the bed and record your dreams and see how 522 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 5: these cheesy delights may affect your dreams and quality of sleep. 523 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: And also maybe make a notice to what kind of 524 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 5: cheeseyate and see if it made different types of entities appear. 525 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: What do you guys think? 526 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: I think this is a fun one. 527 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: Honey, we're gonna get weird break out the camember. 528 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you should do that anyway, Keeping keeping a dream 529 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: journal is an invaluable psychological tools, especially creativitating with anything 530 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: you eat. Yeah, and lactose intolerance, by the way, I 531 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: appreciate that the all you're pointing to are acknowledging this 532 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: lactose intolerance as a spectrum is a very real thing. 533 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: It's also a mutation of the human species. Most comparable 534 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: organisms are not drinking milk or consuming dairy products into adulthood. 535 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: So that's a fascinating superpower of the human species. And 536 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: part of the reason that lactose tolerance in adulthood is 537 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: not universal is because in the grand context, it's quite 538 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: a recent mutation. 539 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 6: Do you think it works with vegan cheese. 540 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: Vegan cheese is nut based, right, so you may. 541 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I can't imagine if you have nut allergies 542 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: that that could cause some disruption, but maybe not the 543 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 5: same ones that are caused by the lactose. Okay, I 544 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 5: mean there are other types of vegan cheese that don't 545 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 5: use nuts, but I think the most popular type it 546 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 5: uses nuts nut cheese, which is really fun to say 547 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: and kind of gross, but that's what it's called. 548 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: What's great on popcorn from back when I was vegan 549 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: has a terrible name, nutritional geek nutritional yeasts actually really yeah, 550 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: a terrible name. Aside, it's a great topping for popcorn. 551 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 5: And liquid aminos is another vegan topping that's like a 552 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: very popular choice for seasoning, and I just think that's 553 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 5: such like a weird clinical name. But yeah, nutritional yeast 554 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 5: is always giving me a bit of the ick, but 555 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 5: it is really. 556 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: Really good and yeah, yeah name aside again, and popcorn 557 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: by itself often gets vilified. It's not popcorn the product 558 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: on its own that's bad for you. It's the murderous 559 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: amount of butter we add to it, and of course 560 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: the lovely little lighting on the microwave plastic bag, and 561 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: also the bits that can get lodged so deep in 562 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: your crevices of your. 563 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 5: Teeth that you may never get them out again. That 564 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: is my biggest qualm with popcorn. But I have recently 565 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 5: switched to using a water pick, and that'll get those out. 566 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 4: It'll get those out right away. 567 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: Water picks are pretty magical, nice, highly recommend I don't know, guys, 568 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 5: I guess I can keep my segment short. These were 569 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 5: all pretty light and fun, except for the poor individual 570 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 5: who got sniped by the police for reaching for a 571 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 5: delicious soda. I don't know, if you guys don't have 572 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 5: anything a tad, I think we could probably pop to 573 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 5: a break and then come back with our last strange 574 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 5: news segment. 575 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: What do you say, Well, yes, but please I've recently 576 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: discovered something that we are not sponsored by, but it 577 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: is one of my favorite things to add to stuff, 578 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: especially vegetables. It's from some company called Kinders that make spices, 579 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: and they have like a butter, I don't know, a 580 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: seasoning that you can pour over the tops like powdered, 581 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: but it's like it almost tastes like mildly charred butter, 582 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: like butter that's. 583 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 6: Been on a grill. 584 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: Round favor. 585 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it Just you hit it on some 586 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: vegetables or something and. 587 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: That sounds good. Sweet sweet. I've been really into seasonings lately, 588 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: so I'm gonna try that out. Man, that's great. 589 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: I also like everything but the bagel, which is everything 590 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: bagels without the bagels, some of the American and ridiculous, 591 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: and I just love it. It's one of those you know, 592 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: you see weird, the weirdest, smallest things that make you 593 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 3: think only in America and everything but the bagel is 594 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 3: one of those. 595 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 6: Is it is it too much on? 596 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: Like? 597 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: Because I because it's we're talking sesame, garlic, Yeah. 598 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 3: All the hits, all the good ones all, yeah, a good. 599 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 5: Amalgam of spices. It actually does quite work, man. It 600 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: doesn't immediately put you in bagel down. 601 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 6: Got you? Okay, okay, well that's all I got you all. 602 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break here, another word from our sponsor, 603 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 5: and then come back with mister Matt Frederick for sure. 604 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: And we're back, guys. Quick confession. I've been in car 605 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: world again a little bit, and every time I go there, Ben, 606 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: I think about your time on car stuff. Just how 607 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: any awesome episodes in Scott made. And I was looking 608 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: specifically at Auto Shanghai twenty twenty five and just in 609 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: awe of the sheer number of auto manufacturers in China. 610 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: It just how many different companies are making incredible electric 611 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: vehicles that if they were here in the US market, 612 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: I feel like people would not buy Tesla's anymore. They 613 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: would not buy any of the expensive electric vehicles out 614 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 2: there because these things you can get them for like 615 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: a quarter of the price. I'm not kidding, it's true, 616 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: and they have incredible luxury stuff inside. Yeah, It's just 617 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: I was salivating looking at some of these amazing cars. Anyway, 618 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: I was, I was doing that, going down that route 619 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: and just thinking about all this stuff and why the heck, 620 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: like aren't they aren't they here, and obviously there's terrif 621 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 2: issues there, tension issues there are you know, US auto 622 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 2: manufacturers don't want a whole bunch of other car companies 623 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 2: coming in and selling cars where you could be selling 624 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 2: a Ford or Japan with Toyota and Honda. Don't want 625 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of other cars in the US market. Makes sense, 626 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: But dang, dang, they're cool. And I didn't know there 627 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: was a company. I think they're called Great Wall Motors 628 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: or something like that. It's like the Great Wall of 629 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: China Motors. What okay? As I as I went a 630 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: little deeper into some of these specific manufacturers, specific vehicles 631 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: that seem way too cheap, I found something strange. It's 632 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: a story that was written by Rob Stump for Inside 633 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 2: EV's was written on June twenty fourth of this year. 634 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: Here's the title, China's zero mile used evs are flooding 635 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: global markets. And I was curious, what is that mean? 636 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: A zero mile used electric vehicle? What the heck is 637 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: that right? 638 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: If you are how can it be considered used if 639 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: no one has actually run up the no one has 640 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 3: driven it, right a single mile, not a single mile, 641 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 3: So maybe then we could rightly or we could with 642 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: validity make an assumption like, oh, maybe this was maybe 643 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: it counts as used because it was part of a 644 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: promotion or it was in the background of a movie 645 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: or something like that. But that's not the case, is it, Matt. 646 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: So I think the best way to talk about and 647 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 2: answer that question, Ben is to break this down a 648 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: little bit and discuss what is being called the zero 649 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: mile scam. Okay, here's this is really weird. Nobody's ever 650 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: driven these vehicles. They get manufactured, they come off the line, 651 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: they are you know, theoretically on a truck. 652 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 6: Bed or something. For all of this. 653 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: The vehicle comes off the line, it gets registered immediately 654 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: with a Chinese license plate. So think about that process. 655 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 2: If you've ever purchased a car, or if you like anywhere, 656 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: or you've ever even had to get a new license 657 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: plate or a new registration. Sure it is because you 658 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: are an individual owner of a vehicle, right, So it 659 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 2: gets registered in your name, your address, your private information 660 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: gets linked to that vehicle with a registration that you 661 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: can then show to a very kind police officer when 662 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: they come up to your window and say license and 663 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 2: registration please. 664 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 5: Uh, They don't ask for the proof of insurance hardly 665 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 5: at all anymore, it would seem maybe they can look 666 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 5: it up when they paying your stuff, but usually all 667 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 5: on the license. 668 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: Right, it'll show up on your renord if you haven't 669 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: shut its. 670 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And generally that process makes sense. They are linking 671 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 2: you as an individual human to the vehicle and if 672 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: you're not linked, why are you not linked? 673 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 6: And what's going on here? 674 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: But in this case, the car manufacturer, the people who 675 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: made it, registers that vehicle essentially with them as being 676 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: sold to them or an owner. They are the owner 677 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: of that vehicle, so they can then immediately de register, 678 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: get rid of the license plate, and then ship it 679 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: to another country usually and say hey, this is a 680 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: used vehicle, which means they can mark the price of 681 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 2: that vehicle down significantly from a brand new electric vehicles price. 682 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, okay, So to make sure all of us 683 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 3: are playing along at home, get it. It is not 684 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: a specific individual like Johnny Blue Jeans or Carol Beijing 685 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 3: or whatever that's registering the vehicle. It is the manufacturer 686 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: registering with the government to get that to account as 687 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: a sale and then de registering and pushing it out 688 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: to the export market. 689 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, Well, it's like turn them back theodometer type stuff. 690 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 4: I mean, not quite, but it's like it's a scam 691 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 4: in a similar fashion. 692 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 2: But it's weird though because it is a scam. But 693 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 2: ultimately the car manufacturer is going to lose a lot 694 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 2: of money, right because they're going to sell it for 695 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: a lot less money than they would have gotten if 696 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 2: they sold it new. So where refined? The issue here 697 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 2: is that the Chinese market is manufacturing way too many 698 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: electric vehicles for the domestic market, so then they have 699 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: to get a bunch more out to other countries. So 700 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: to make the markets in those other countries view their 701 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 2: vehicles as more enticing, they mark the price way way 702 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 2: way down. So why would you get a much more expensive, 703 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: let's say, Russian made vehicle if you're a resident of Russia, 704 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: when you could get one of these Chinese manufacturer vehicles 705 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 2: that's brand new for all intents and purposes, but at 706 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 2: a crazy markdown price. 707 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 3: It's a loss leader, right. That could be part of 708 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: the tactic here. Now we're normalizing the export. We're getting 709 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 3: a chance to showcase the technology and the affordability, even 710 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 3: though the ability is a product of some financial parkour 711 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: that there definitely seems to be more to the story 712 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 3: on this when because the logic from the outside, as 713 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 3: we've described, which is accurate, does beg the question what's 714 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 3: in it for the manufacturers. The answers can be found 715 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: in stuff like massive government subsidies, because there's a very 716 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: different relationship between business and state in China as opposed 717 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 3: to a lot of the West outside of the decayed monarchies. 718 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: Oh exactly, Sorry, I walk down the street for that last. Okay, 719 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: we accept your journey and we appreciate it. Yes, Ben, 720 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 3: that is a huge deal, the subsidies and how these 721 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: these manufacturers are essentially getting government money to make more cars, right, 722 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 3: and then you're turning that money into profits all along 723 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 3: the chain. So the local government ends up tallying a 724 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 3: car sale in their life local vicinity, Right, the car 725 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 3: manufacturer of the brand logs revenue because hey, they've officially 726 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 3: got they've exported a car and it's already been sold. 727 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 6: Right. 728 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: The exporter themselves pockets a little profit per vehicle. There's 729 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 2: a Reuter's investigation that says the revenue was quote so 730 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: good that exporters were able to earn around one four 731 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: hundred dollars US and profit per car back in twenty 732 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty twenty three. And this is what 733 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 2: it says, quote a major markup given the exporter purchased 734 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 2: the car. So the person buying this new used car 735 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: paid around five thy four hundred. 736 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 6: Dollars US on average. 737 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: It's just you hear how low that is. The exporter 738 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: bought a car for five four hundred dollars brand new electric. 739 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, think about what what brand new electric vehicle 740 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: here in the US could you buy for five four 741 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 2: hundred dollar scooter? 742 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 3: Maybe a couple of scooters, you know what I mean? 743 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: An electric riteable lawnmower maybe. 744 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: Right right? That's yeah, this is this is fascinating because 745 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 3: it shows us that the model we always assume to 746 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: be most functional for these kinds of sales is not 747 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 3: necessarily the only game in town, right globally and I 748 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: imagine I'm guessing here, but my spidey sense would tell me, 749 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 3: guys that other countries who are still receiving these imports 750 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: have started to push back, right. 751 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I think Russia in particular has you know, 752 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 2: tried to put the kabasha on this and stop it 753 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: from happening. And because they changed, they changed the way 754 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: quote used as a term is used. Right, what does 755 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: what does the word used mean? And there's basically saying yeah, 756 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: it didn't have an actual owner and it has no 757 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: miles on it. It's not used and China's like, yes it is. 758 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 6: Anyway. 759 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 2: It's really interesting. It goes into it just really quickly. 760 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 2: Just I want to talk about the tactics that the 761 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: local governments are using, because it is weird. They are 762 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 2: local governments in China and specific provinces as you go throughout, 763 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: are attempting to curb the number of vehicles on the 764 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 2: road because of congestion. They're trying to slow down pollution 765 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: from vehicles that are not evis. There's all kinds of 766 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 2: you know, and it's province by province, but they've all 767 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: got essentially rules in place for the number of vehicles 768 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: that can be registered on a yearly basis. Well at 769 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 2: least twenty local governments were found to be essentially granting 770 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: an extra lot of licenses and registrations specifically for these 771 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: cars to be quick registered and licensed and then you know, 772 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 2: thrown out they're even yeah, and I just. 773 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: Have to say, I immediately sense some red envelopes changing 774 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: hands at the local dim sum place. 775 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just just a little oh oh, here's your cut. Hey, awesome, thanks, 776 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 2: really appreciate that. The other thing they're doing are making 777 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: huge warehouses available for specific manufacturers to hold electric vehicles 778 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 2: for a certain amount of time until they can be exported. 779 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: So essentially, manufacture the car, get it licensed, registered, and 780 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: all that stuff, throw that stuff out, and then take 781 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: it via some large truck to a holding facility one 782 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 2: of these warehouses and let it sit. But it's it's 783 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 2: a brand new use car and it just needs to 784 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 2: head to some other country now. 785 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 3: And then also we have to say, yes, there very 786 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 3: much does seem to be a grift, a scam, as 787 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 3: you said, or a conspiracy afoot. But for the other 788 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 3: side of the argument, you know, you're someone in Jordan, 789 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 3: you're someone in Russia. You could not usually afford an 790 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 3: ev especially not one with all these bells and whistles. 791 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 3: So the argument in support of this would be something like, 792 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 3: we're just giving people what they want. We're making things 793 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 3: more affordable, right, We're helping folks enter the higher echelons 794 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 3: of society, the middle class, the upper middle class, and 795 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 3: so on. That's a difficult argument to refute because there 796 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 3: is validity to it. And on the other side, it 797 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 3: does feel I don't want to sound cenophobic, but it 798 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 3: does feel like the government of China is desperately trying 799 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: to push clean money, right, or you like, to wash 800 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 3: their money to get stuff going in a way that 801 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 3: supports tech and innovation and greater mercantile aims. It reminds 802 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 3: me a lot of the ghost towns constructed right the 803 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 3: real estate market. 804 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to keep building. We have to show 805 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: that we're growing as a company. Right, exactly what all 806 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: these manufacturers are doing? Some of them, Some of these 807 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: manufacturers that show up at Auto Shanghai are so niche 808 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: and so small and have so few sales, But then 809 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 2: they're still getting a ton of government subsidies and they're 810 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: still making a ton of different cars. 811 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 6: How are you guys doing this? It's it's government subsidies. 812 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 4: So this isn't illegal. It's just a little bit sketch. 813 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: It's it's sketch. Yeah, it's it's as of right now, 814 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 2: it's not illegal. And I did get it wrong. Jordan 815 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: is the country that is tweaking the definition of used. 816 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: Russia is the country that's effectively banning this practice. So 817 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: that's interesting that those two countries are doing that. Anyway, guys, 818 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 2: just a weird thing, not illegal, just a way to 819 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: change the rules a little bit of the system to 820 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: make it for you. 821 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 822 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Bid is one of the companies right we're talking about, 823 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 5: isn't that one of the big that They're the company 824 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 5: that I've seen that has a really cool line of 825 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 5: cars that would be rad if we could get over here. 826 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 5: But I guess that the competition does not want that 827 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 5: to happen. 828 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 3: I want it to happen, but there's not a there's 829 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 3: not a Chinese auto manufacturer lobby that could mess with 830 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 3: the Big three yet. So guys, if we're gonna be corrupt, 831 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 3: no half measures. I want all the way corruption, you 832 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I want that, I want that lobby. 833 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 3: I want those red envelopes in Washington. 834 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 8: Just get some of those zero mile cars over here. 835 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 4: You know it'd be sold on the black right, right, come. 836 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 3: On, Yeah, this is the home of everything but the bagel. 837 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 3: We can make this happen. Think you know what I mean? 838 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 4: Together, our powers combined. 839 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 6: Guys, have you seen the jatour G nine hundred. 840 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 5: But I've seen some that like have robo suspension that 841 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 5: can like bump, make the car like bounce to music, 842 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 5: and have. 843 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 6: Like lights and crazy stuff. 844 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 4: What is the one you're talking about, matt. 845 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 2: Uh, It's just it's a one of these luxury SUVs. 846 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: It looks like a cooler range Rover to me, you know, 847 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 2: but it's it's got stuff that like a Rolls Royce has. 848 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 3: It's so gar. 849 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 4: It really is spoke aff. 850 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 3: The reason aside from yes, there is a point to 851 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 3: saying protectionism and maybe the Big three don't don't want 852 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 3: the new guys rolling in and outperforming them. But aside 853 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 3: from that, there are I hate that we have to 854 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 3: say this, but it's true. They're also serious concerns about 855 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 3: the technology that may be sliding under the radar in 856 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 3: these cars manufactured right So what yeah, yeah, I mean 857 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 3: you gotta be careful. Two more two more Chinese nationals 858 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 3: just got busted for spying in the US. It's like 859 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 3: it's these folks on both sides, very paranoid and sometimes 860 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 3: with cause still be sick. Though it'd be sick to 861 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 3: have one of these vehicles, you know what I mean, 862 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 3: like it it'll say your name when you hop in. Yes, right, 863 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 3: and it probably will already know too much about you. 864 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 3: But that's most cars manufactured in the US today already. 865 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 2: Say my name car, It's Marry. 866 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 3: Walter White night rider stuff over here? 867 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 6: Exactly. 868 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 3: Did I ever tell you, guys about the time when 869 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 3: when the celebrity voices were rolling out for GPS directions? 870 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 3: I was using an early adopter model of it, and 871 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 3: I accidentally had I actually had Arnold Schwarzenegger's voice giving 872 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 3: me directions, and I couldn't figure I couldn't figure out 873 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 3: how to switch it out, and it got. 874 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 4: Old a few minutes. That's true. 875 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, guys, I had a whole story in here. 876 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk about next week about the human genome and 877 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 2: synthesizing all kinds of fun things like chromosomes and stuff 878 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 2: that will have a nice little discussion about. I'm gonna 879 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: save that. We'll talk about that next week. Just know 880 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 2: that it is news right now if you want to 881 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 2: check it out for yourself. 882 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, woo, just the beginning, right, Yeah. 883 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 2: Shout out to the welcome trust in their infinite wisdom. 884 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens there. Yeah, that's all I've got 885 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 2: this week. 886 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 4: Guys. 887 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 3: That's amazing and thank you guys. We've gone on quite 888 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 3: a journey here. We hope July finds everybody well. We 889 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 3: hope that you join us in the interim between our episodes, 890 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 3: our upcoming listener mail and more strange news. As always, 891 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 3: tell us about two VLU, tell us about teeth, tell 892 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 3: us about your Chinese ev and what you would do 893 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 3: for FAGO. You can find us online. You can hit 894 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 3: us on the email. 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