1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: my name is Noel. 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined, as always with our 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee Pal Fake's back. Most importantly, 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: want you to know. Now before we begin, we're recording 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: this on Wednesday, January fourteenth. You're going to be hearing 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: this on Monday, January nineteenth before we begin. I think 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: it'd be super cool to hear from you ten See, 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: because you've been you've been traveling, you've been on the 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: road and off the road, and we've been sending you 16 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: weirdly rudabaga coded messages, coded as thank you no as 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Noel would say, uh sow or codd. 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. We like to all the messages we send our 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 4: dusted and rude beegum. 20 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 3: So, uh, Dylan, how you doing man? 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 5: I'm good. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 6: I know it's two weeks into the new year, but 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 6: happy New Year. 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: Happy New Year too. 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: You can say Happy New Year to us anytime. 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 5: Thank you. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can always say it in August, by the way, 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: eating a lot. 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: Of conk, yeah, yeah, contract conk. 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 6: I was in I was in the Virgin Islands and 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 6: I did the lobster. 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 5: They do not skimp on the lobster there. 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: Nice yeah. And also, uh, Virgin Islands, don't get it twisted, folks, 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: not owned by Richard Branson at this. 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: Time, one of them owned by Richard Branson. You might 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: be one is. 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: Who doesn't own one island here. 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: Richard call us again. We love the we love the cruise. 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: What's island between billionaire friends? 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: I know it's just you know, it's another loose diamond 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: in the bag. 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: It's early days, but we might be going back on 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: a cruise. 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: Well, we're going somewhere. We're going to the Bahamas, right. 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: Yes, we're also we we might get a second date 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: with Sir Richard Branson. We're quite excited about that. What's 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: one island but another loose diamond in the bag of badgers, folks. 49 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: As we as we begin our strange news program, we 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: wanted to get in front of this at the top, 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: there have been two deaths. Uh that that recently hit 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: the news and stood out to us one of the 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: first ones we should start off with. And I can't 54 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: believe I almost texted you guys about this, but I can't. 55 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: I've got to stop texting you guys late at night. 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: It's it's the author of Chariots of the Gods, a 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: formative figure in our young lives, honestly part of the 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: inspiration for this show. Eric Vaughan Danikin. 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: He's come up recently in some recent Strange News discussions. 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: What was that about or was it on an episode? 61 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: We were talking a lot about three I, Atlas and. 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Naki. Yeah, thank you, Tennessee. Yeah, actually, I believe I 63 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: can't speak for everyone. I believe that Annaki. The Anaki 64 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: episode is ultimately decades later, it comes about because of 65 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: the work of Eric von Danakan, who is by far, 66 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: or was by far, the primary Western champion of ancient 67 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: alien theory. 68 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, he was. He was the guy. 69 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: He's at least one of the guys that you remember 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: most if you ever watched an episode of Ancient Aliens, 71 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: at least the early ones. He was all over that thing, 72 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: and his accent because he was Swiss, just amazing. The 73 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: way he would speak was beautiful. And we heard about 74 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: this from Swissinfo dot c H when they were at 75 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: least one of the first outlets to report on it, 76 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: and then it hit all the American and you know, 77 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: British papers and those that we tend to look at. 78 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: And according to I think it was his daughter. He 79 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: died of old age at interlock in Conton Burn Hospital, 80 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: so at the age of ninety. 81 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 5: So he he. 82 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: Lived a long time and who knows where he is 83 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: right now, hopefully like old. 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: Age of ninety And imagine imagining him hanging out with 85 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 4: the uh with the you know, the lea tes I hope. 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: So also, guys, this dude was super big for a 87 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: specific genre of hip hop as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: Uh Chariots of the Gods, ancient Aliens. Eric von Danikin 89 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: von Danakin rhymes with so many things, Uh check out 90 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: check out old backpacker hip hop, because there's a lot 91 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: of stuff where they'll drop a Eric von Danakin always 92 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: keep it real or you a man or a mannequin? 93 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, different stuff like that, like it. Yeah, Now 94 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: we have to be clear. Von Danakin was a controversial figure. Uh. 95 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: Mainstream science rejected the vast majority of his propositions and 96 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: his beliefs. 97 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 7: Uh. 98 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 3: But hell of a storyteller, and seemed to be acting 99 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: in good faith, by which by which I mean he 100 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: believed what he was saying, So he was not necessarily 101 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: out there drifting. This was an honest perspective of his own. 102 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 4: Well, speaking of good faith, guys, would you say that 103 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: a lot of these beliefs of his enter into the 104 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: realm of spiritualism and faith and you know, kind of 105 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: outside of the realms of pure science. 106 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: I would I would say that, Well, the thing with humans, 107 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: Noll is typically as they age, they tend to get 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: a little bit more spiritual no offense than any humans 109 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: in the crowd. But yeah, there was definitely there was 110 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: definitely a thread of a deeper philosophy to some some 111 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: things similar to Graham Hancock or God Save Us, David Ike. 112 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: You know, the claims grow, they proliferate, especially when they're 113 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: not questioned. 114 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, he he made forty nine books out 115 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: of it, seventy five million copies, thirty different languages. 116 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: His books were translated. 117 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: Into prolific and successful author So he's definitely selling books. 118 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: And I guess we shouldn't. That's a great point, Matt. 119 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: I guess we shouldn't read too many tea leaves of personality, 120 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: just like in our episode on Peter Teal. But yeah, 121 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: an author who definitely made a living doing so, it 122 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: does feel like he believed it. Or maybe he was 123 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: Merlin in Mark Twain's Connecticut Yankee and King Arthur's Court, 124 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 3: remember where the unnamed protagonist the Yankee see some guy 125 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: who thinks he's doing magic and has that moment where 126 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: he says, holy crap, this guy actually Merlin actual believes 127 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: that he can do spells. So maybe it's just the 128 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: confidence with which the late Von Danakin held his views. 129 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: I mean, we talking about all the time, it's so 130 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: hard to intuit someone's level of belief because we are 131 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: so often faced with weaponized belief systems, and you know, 132 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: in government, people throwing around, you know, religious ideology, whether 133 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: or not they themselves fully believe it or not. And 134 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: it's something that's nearly impossible to prove that someone does 135 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: or does not believe the thing that they are espousing. 136 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 4: So it does lead to a lot of cynicism surrounding 137 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: belief systems. 138 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean it's I love that point, Noel, because 139 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: it reminds us about one of the most difficult things 140 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: in the US legal system, which is the proof of intent. 141 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: Not it's easy to prove what was or was not done, 142 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: but it is much more difficult. It's a much taller 143 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: milkshake to figure out. 144 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 4: Actual malice. 145 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, what people intended, right, and intention does not indemnify 146 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 3: one from consequence. 147 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: Is why the libel laws are so tricky over here, 148 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 4: because it's very, very nigh impossible to prove that someone 149 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: said something with ill intent. And you, I think the 150 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: whole crux there is that lack of the ability to 151 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: prove belief. 152 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, hey, guys, speaking of intent and ancient aliens, 153 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: what do you think the intent was of Giorgio Suculos 154 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: when he first did his hair like that and went 155 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: on camera. 156 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: I think it was the producers beige looking guy. 157 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: He's awesome. 158 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: Georgioulos is awesome and his hair is just intense. 159 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: I was that thing called, I want to say alien 160 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: Con a few years back, and the word on the 161 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: street is George was known as a part like you 162 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: would go to house parties in you know, in cities 163 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: where there was a local conference or a live show, 164 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: and then he would I can't confirm this, okay, but 165 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: I heard this guy would rock up to a house party, 166 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: find all the free available booze and goodies, and then 167 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: immediately try to hit on groupies that were hanging around, 168 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: and if they weren't there. 169 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: He would ghost rock on to the next one, rock 170 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: on to. 171 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: The next one. Speaking of which we were talking about 172 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: authors before you got a little bit derailed, we do 173 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: also need to mention another another legend who has passed. 174 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert. He is probably best 175 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: known to most of us for the creation of the 176 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: legendary comic strip Dilbert. However, he got into some real 177 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: weird philosophical territory later online. 178 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: He espoused some pretty gnarly stuff if I'm not mistaken. 179 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, yeah yeah. He his cartoon got canceled 180 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: by hundreds and hundreds of newspapers. So he had achieved 181 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: the catbird seat of old cartoonsy the dog bird seat. 182 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 3: Well done. He had achieved the dog bird seat of syndication. 183 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: So you can make a little comic strip and then 184 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: five days, six days a week, you would be published 185 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: throughout the contiguous United States. And indeed beyond. He got 186 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: dropped after he made some pretty clearly racist remarks. He 187 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: pivoted to become a sort of guess life advice guru, 188 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: like a Jordan Peterson type figure. In some ways he 189 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: has passed away as well. Do you guys remember Dilbert. 190 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: We were talking about this off air. I jokingly said 191 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: that dog Bert was an agent of the deep state. 192 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: But that was really all I could, uh, you know, 193 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: impart onto my memories of Dilbert. I just know that 194 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: they were in an office and it was very kind 195 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: of office space quoted. Sorry, there was a certain you mentioned, uh, 196 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 4: what's the word purgatory nature to this office that they occupied, 197 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 4: like they could never really escape and it was meant 198 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: to sort of lampoon the drudgery of office work before 199 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: things like the office and uh and office space. 200 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Well, according to Vice President jd Vance, guys, this is 201 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: quote a quote from NBC News. 202 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: Are you going to do the South Park voice? 203 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 5: No, I'm not. This is just I'm going to read 204 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 5: this just straight. 205 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: He says that Adams was a true American original and 206 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: a great ally to the President of the United States 207 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: and the entire administration. 208 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: To quote Dogbert whoof Yeah, And to quote Chuck Palinook, 209 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: I am Jack's lack of surprise. So we do want 210 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: to we want to be clear these are people in 211 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: the zeitgeist. Obviously Won Danakan meant a lot to us, 212 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: meant a lot to the show. Obviously Dilbert was a 213 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 3: phenomenal cartoon strip, and obviously there is a lot of 214 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: strange news for us to get to this evening, guys, 215 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: let's call an audible. Since we are already speaking of 216 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: the dead, let's say we take a break, and then Noel, 217 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: can you bring us back in with this story about 218 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: this viral Chinese app? 219 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: I think I must, since you put it that way, 220 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: And we're back and once again speaking of the dead, 221 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: not ill of the dead, and we're hoping that no 222 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: one's dead at all, and that you're checking in on 223 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: this Chinese app called are You Dead? Soon to undergo 224 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: a name change after this app, aimed at folks with 225 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: a quote solitary lifestyle, went viral over there in China. 226 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: It's essentially an app designed for folks living alone with 227 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: a subscription model that allows them to have people who 228 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: are the followers of theirs, and they check in with 229 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: the push of a virtual button to let people know 230 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: that they have in fact not died, not choked on 231 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: a microwave meal, or two things, caught the corner of 232 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: a kitchen counter, I've. 233 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: Fallen and I can't get up. 234 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: It's similar to that for sure. And then in my 235 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: mind immediately went to, you know how this might be 236 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: useful for elderly parents. 237 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Two things real quick here. First, subscription model. 238 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know that's the that's the world we're 239 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: living in. I'm not sure what the fee is, but 240 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: there is a fee involved. The app has been up 241 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: to now called Silima. I'm not in sure that the 242 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: Chinese pronunciation would go, but that does roughly translate to 243 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: are you dead in English. They refer to it as 244 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: a lightweight safety tool created for anyone choosing a solitary lifestyle. 245 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: This is from the apps developers. It essentially requires setting 246 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: up an emergency contact sending automatic notifications if the user 247 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: hasn't checked in via the app for consecutive days. According 248 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: to its official platform on why Bo, which is the 249 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 4: very popular Chinese social media network, the company is launching 250 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: a rebrand, changing its name to dem dem UMW don't 251 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: have an English translation for that, but this is what 252 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: they have to say. After extensive consideration, the Silame app 253 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: will officially adopt the global brand name Demmu for its 254 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: forthcoming new release. Uh. The app jumped to the top 255 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: of Apple's paid app charts this week after some reporting 256 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: on it. I imagine because of the name. It's a 257 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: little bit, you know, hot button kind of thing. 258 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: I think it's like Nie or something like that. I'm 259 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: getting the tone wrong. 260 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: I think you're doing. 261 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: There you go, Oh, I went down on the tone. 262 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: So anyway, I screwed up the mandard. But yeah, are 263 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: you dead? 264 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: Uh? 265 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: The second question here real quick, and Matt, sorry if 266 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm monopolizing. This was to uh a little bit of 267 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: a personal anecdote. You know, this is going to be 268 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: common for all of us or a lot of us, 269 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: sadly in the audience tonight, members of the Worst Club ever. 270 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: My biological father this time around is a widower, and 271 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: me and old Colonel Kurtz have an agreement that every 272 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: twenty four hours will check in just so I know 273 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: the old monster is still kicking. It is Eldritch. Ways, 274 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: so we'll literally have a version of this and I 275 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: think a lot of Again, I'm not unique in this regard. 276 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: I think a lot of us will have a deal 277 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: with an older relative, a parent, or an estranged or 278 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: distant family member where they will let you know that 279 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: they are alive. And this app is simply providing a 280 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: commodified solution to that, right, I think that's right. 281 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: Well, Ben, have I got news for you. 282 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: There's this brand new app being launched very soon called Domumu. 283 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: And with this app, with the touch of a button, 284 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: you can check in with your loved ones. I just 285 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: feel if do you, guys think there's is there any 286 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: better way to ensure that your app is going to 287 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: have interaction with it? Then if you don't interact with 288 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: our app, people are going to think you're dead. So 289 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: you better your phone a. 290 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: Lot dead man switch and also it's a that was 291 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: a great too. It's a dead man switch and it's 292 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: also uh. It also reminds me a little bit of 293 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: uh dating apps and the way those things are gamified. Right, 294 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: what was it was? It remind me, guys, was a 295 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: bumble or hinge that wanted to be the app you 296 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: eventually delete? 297 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: Hinge h hinge. 298 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: I think that is some of their marketing speak. 299 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just pictured a pitch for the renamed app 300 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: here that says internally to the kids, it says, don't worry. 301 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: Eventually you can delete this. 302 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, no, for sure. And the thing is, though 303 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 4: this isn't really targeted at the elderly in the In 304 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: Chinese society, there are an estimated thirty percent of the 305 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: population living solitary lives by choice or maybe not. This 306 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: is according to the Global Time so that's around two 307 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 4: hundred million single person households. So this very much is 308 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: a product of Chinese society. I'd be very curious to 309 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: see what those numbers are here. And I say this 310 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: as someone who lives alone currently. I do have a 311 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 4: kid that you know, pops through couple couple two three 312 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: days a week. But in general I am one of 313 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: these solitary living individuals. 314 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: Well, no, if you want to set us up, you 315 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: just add Ben and I and Dylan as your contacts 316 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: and you demumu the heck out of us. 317 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: I wonder if de mumu's a nonsense word. I think 318 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: apps are really prone to using nonsense words so that 319 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 4: they don't impart too much traversity, perhaps because I think 320 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: of the scillame thing. Are you dead yet? Might have 321 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: been a little too spicy. 322 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: You're also you're also never alone while Matt and I 323 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: are here. 324 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 4: Man, guys, if I'm not complaining, that's great living alone rules. 325 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: I can see whatever. I walking to Jesus Man, I 326 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: was just back. I appreciate it. 327 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: Tell us if you don't, I don't feel I don't 328 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 4: feel any kind of way. Sure whatever, I get it. Sometimes, 329 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: you know, you do get lonely. But that's interesting to 330 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: think about whether these things are by choice or you know, 331 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: if people are isolated. Right, so, I could certainly see 332 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: a demand for a thing like this, and this. 333 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: Is Yeah, it reminds me of the It may be 334 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: related to the lying flat movement or the tongue ping phenomenon, 335 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: where younger people specifically are rejecting intense demands of society 336 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: and just saying I'm going to live a low effort life. 337 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to be minimalist. I'm not gonna strive for 338 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: you know, the whole nine ninety six competitive work culture. 339 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 3: It's comparable to the hikiko mori I think they're called 340 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: in Japan. 341 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but those are a very extreme version of what 342 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 4: we're talking about here. 343 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: Shut right, right, Yeah, the shut it the folks who 344 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: kind of went off into the ocean by themselves, right, 345 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: So this is a lifeline. And I hear you man, 346 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: Are you Dead is a real weird name for that, 347 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: Like you say, it's very. 348 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: It's a little on the nose, little on the nose. 349 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: And one user told Al Jazeera, who have been citing 350 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: some of the quotes from here in a piece Chinese 351 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: app are you Dead? To change name after surgeon popularity? 352 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 4: A user told them maybe some conservative people and that's 353 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: obviously referring to traditional uh, you know, members of society 354 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 4: who support Mayorge. And I know that China also has 355 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 4: got the confusion. Yes, but also isn't there an issue 356 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 4: with population? Wasn't there like a one child thing. 357 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 3: The one child Yeah, the one child policy has the 358 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: pendulum is swung back. 359 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: That's what I mean. There's it's now like they're having 360 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: are they want you to have more children now? And 361 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: I think they're paying you to do so. 362 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but not enough to have a kid. 363 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 4: But there's not something we've discussed, but there is this 364 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: pendulum swing and there's even like a yeah you get 365 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 4: a little bonus if you have another kid. 366 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: There's a gender disparity it's a whole bag of badgers. 367 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 4: It's the whole thing. And this individual goes on to 368 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: say it will make us unmarried people feel more at 369 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: ease to spend our lives. And I think we've all 370 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 4: heard the saddest way to go being like dying alone 371 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: in your apartment having choked on some food or something 372 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: and no one there to find you, and then you get, like, 373 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: you know, eaten by your cats. But I think that's 374 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: a bit of a cliche. And again, living alone is 375 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: not like some sort of weird death sentence in and 376 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: of itself. It's indeed a fine way to exist if 377 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: that's what you want. 378 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: Indeed, for a lot of us in the crowd, it's 379 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 3: the ideal living situation. 380 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 4: And I just wanted to briefly mention a story that 381 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: I had qu'ed up for a last time that we 382 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: didn't get to. But then you've got some scoop on 383 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: this one. A bluefin tuna in Tokyo at a very 384 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: very famous fish market known as the Toyosu Fish Market, 385 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 4: which apparently our buddy Jonesy over at weird af News said, 386 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: there's a really cool documentary about this market and its 387 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: history and apparently it's about to move to a new 388 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 4: location because it's fallen into disrepair. But that's its own 389 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: thing at this market. The Kyu Mora Corporation bought at 390 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: auction a Pacific bluefin tuna for five hundred and ten 391 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 4: point three million yen on New Year's morning. That would 392 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: be an estimated three point two million dollars the way 393 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: in at two hundred and forty three kilograms. It was 394 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: caught off of Oma by Toyo kazu Ito, a fisherman 395 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 4: from Oma and Mari Prefecture, and then taken to sushu 396 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: Zon maiz Tzuki head Restaurant for dismantling. Let's just say so, Ben, 397 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: you said you said there was something to this. Oh, 398 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 4: just you know, getting a really dope piece of fish. 399 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 400 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love the numbers we're kicking here, So 401 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: if you if you break down, we said three point 402 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: two million USD right, all told, that's like five thousand, 403 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: nine hundred and eighty one dollars per pound. Yeah, that's insane, 404 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: it's insane. It's a big win for the fish market, 405 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: for the sushi industry. It's a shame for the fish though. 406 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 3: I don't think the fish would be happy to hear 407 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: about what's going on. All right, here's the conspiracy of 408 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 3: you guys, just real quick, because I know we have 409 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: to move on. This is part of a tradition, the 410 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: ideas that you he goes back to a guy named 411 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: Kyoshi Kimura and who is the. 412 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: Head of that corporation, Yes, corporation, Yes, sir. 413 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: Just so and so this guy is not only like 414 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: buying or paying the highest price for the fish, but 415 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: it's a spectacle. It's a Kentucky derby of sorts. You know, 416 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: this sort of sets the bar for fish prices in 417 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: the calendar year. 418 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 4: That is interesting, Ben, because it does say that kymoora 419 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: corporation said it's going to sell the tuna cuts at 420 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: usual prices with a one piece limit per customer at 421 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: a and also hold a public cutting show. Yeah, it's 422 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: sushi is on my main branch, which is a chain 423 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: of restaurants. I mean a chain with like obviously a 424 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 4: high and if a chain, yes on what's already happened. 425 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: So that was just about last week. Have you ever 426 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 4: seen one of those videos guys online? They do it 427 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: locally here. Actually, there's a really incredible sushi place that 428 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 4: was called what was it called? They moved it. It 429 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: was in downtown Decatur for a while and now they 430 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: have another location. It doesn't matter. They will do these sushi, 431 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 4: these tuna cutting videos, and it's insane. These things are 432 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 4: like Leviathans. They're so huge. And you to see somebody 433 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: absolutely dismantling one of these creatures with such precision and 434 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: all these really specialty knives and stuff, it's something to 435 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 4: be whole. So to your point, bend, this is very 436 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 4: much a spectacle. Dave Gershin of the Pew Charitable Trust 437 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: International Fisheries Team points to a twenty seventeen recovery plan 438 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: as having, you know, being successful. This idea of adopting 439 00:26:53,359 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 4: long term fish management fishery management policies in order to 440 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: make bluefin tuna less threatened. So it has apparently been 441 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 4: close to a dangerous level. Yes, you know, scarcity. But 442 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 4: I'll tell you I'd love, you know, if I were 443 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 4: to go to Tokyo, I would I would gladly pay 444 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: for a piece of that beast. I do love a 445 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 4: piece of tuna, good piece of tuna. So that's it 446 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 4: for me, guys. 447 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break. 448 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: Here a word from our sponsor and then we'll come 449 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: back with more strange news for you. 450 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: And we have returned now not to be boot liquors 451 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 3: or butt liquors, but we do want to let you know. 452 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: What are the stories we missed in a previous Strange 453 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: News program is the following. The US Department of War 454 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: has notified a sex store in Toronto several times to 455 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: stop sending butt plugs to ba Rain. Don't do it, 456 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: don't want them you, They've said a couple of letters. 457 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 3: They have not yet invaded Toronto strongly worded, Ben, they 458 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: are strongly worded. I hate that we have to explicitly 459 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: say the US is yet to evade Toronto or has 460 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: not at the time of our recording on Wednesday, January fourteenth. 461 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: Just keep that with you, right, like Johnny Depp said 462 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 3: in Life's Too Short, Just hold that inside you and 463 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: realize that the Department of War is sending very weird 464 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: letters to be a. 465 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: Big talk about Canada from that department, A lot. 466 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: Of big talk. And you know, does the guilty dog bark? 467 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: Why they concerned with the butt lugs? All right? 468 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: So well, what is the deal though, Like, what isn't 469 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: the idea that they're sending them to American troops. 470 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: Or yeah, it's at a naval base bah Rain. That 471 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: was the issue, And the folks who run the store 472 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: called bongjiebont Are are pretty pretty chill. I think I 473 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 3: hope a lot of people who run sex positive stores 474 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: are very chill. They didn't know where the plugs were 475 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: going until they got the letters. And if you go 476 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: to outfits like CP twenty four dot com, you can 477 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: hear directly from one of the co founders of the 478 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: store who says, quote, we didn't even know it was 479 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: going to Bahrain until it came back to us months later, 480 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: and it just kind of unraveled this whole hilarious moment. 481 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: And maybe we're bearing the leads slightly. The issue there 482 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: would be that Bahrain is not particularly sex. 483 00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: Positive, right, and the issue is, you know, naval bases hopefully, 484 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: Oh okay, we got veterans in the crowd, so I'm 485 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: not going to do the navy stereotype jokes. 486 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: What the butt stuff is not cool? 487 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: That will quite the opposite my friend about. 488 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: Saying it, wouldn't the perception be that it is not 489 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: masculine in some fashion, that like there's a sense that 490 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: you know, real men don't put stuff in their butts. 491 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 3: Oh my god, every marine in the crowd, every former 492 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: Army member is is laughing aloud. No, the the Navy 493 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: gets pooped on hard for allegations. It's a weird thing. 494 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: But but yeah, okay, that makes sense. But also these 495 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: are this is like hearsay, and this is not the 496 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: kind of thing that the Navy really wants people to 497 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: talk about. In quick question, but would a supplier of 498 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: butt plugs technically be a butt plug plug? 499 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: Oh, it would be a butt plug plugk And we 500 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 7: don't we don't want to take away from some horrifying 501 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 7: intern all activities, internal injustices and cover ups that occur 502 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 7: in the US Armed Forces. 503 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: In fact, guys, I think that could be an episode 504 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: in the future. There's a lot of not just hidden 505 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: not just hidden injustices, but there are murders that have 506 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: been covered up, things that are clearly not suicides. 507 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: Assault, sexual assaults. 508 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, God, there was a twist, but we had to 509 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: say it. There was a turn. Yeah, that is true, 510 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: and while we're going we will do that as an episode. 511 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: Please check it out in the future, folks. And while 512 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: we are on the subject of darker things, also first off, 513 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: don't assault people. Secondly, don't rob graves. Did you guys 514 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: hear about what went down in Pennsylvania? No, this guy 515 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: got found robbing braves in Pennsylvania. I've put a link 516 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: here in our notes. Let's go to KTV dot com 517 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: courtesy of journalist Mark Schulfouro writing for AP. You can 518 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: see a picture of the perp. But apparently the cops 519 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: found bones and skulls in the backseat of a car 520 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: near an abandoned cemetery on the outskirts of Philly, and 521 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: that led them checking the car, led them to a 522 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: basement filled with body parts, and they found the instigator, 523 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: or the guy they like for hasn't been convicted, a 524 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 3: thirty four year old named Jonathan christ gerlac wow christ 525 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: as your middle name. 526 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: Some ed gean kind of stuff. We're talking mummified remains, hands. 527 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: And feet, Chilton's remains as well. Yeah, and some of 528 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: these were older, some of these were a little bit 529 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: more fresh. We don't entirely know the motivation of this individual. 530 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: I'm bringing it up because it's such a strange story. 531 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: It reminds me in a bit in a way about 532 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: our earlier tales of resurrection men. We don't know what 533 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 3: it was doing with the bodies. He was charged with 534 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: one hundred counts eat of abuse of a corpse and 535 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: receiving stolen property desecrating public monuments, also tangentially related. I 536 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: heard an amazing statement about Pepe Silvia from Always Sunny 537 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. 538 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: Okay, what was that? 539 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: That's that We're doing another twist? Okay, So remember the 540 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: conspiracy episode. 541 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 5: Where Red Threadboard, Yes, he doesn't exist. 542 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. According to Charlie Day, the actor 543 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: who plays Charlie in Always Sonny, he apparently, due to 544 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: Charlie's illiteracy, he was misreading Pennsylvania as pepe Sylvia and 545 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: that's why he thought everything was connected and everything kept 546 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 3: going back to Pepe Sylvia. 547 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 5: Amazing. 548 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: I didn't. 549 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 4: How does that? How does that fold back into this 550 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 4: grave robbing store? 551 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't. Okay, it both take place in Pennsylvania. 552 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: Can I just say, without trying to cast dispersions on 553 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 4: somebody just for their appearance, does this dude not look 554 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 4: like the kind of guy that would have gotten swept 555 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: up in some satanic panic stuff back in the day. 556 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: He's got the neck tattoos, is what it is Yeah. 557 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well in his hair, he looks like he would 558 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: be an incredible lead singer of a band which makes really. 559 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: Black metal bands. 560 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not saying that he's not handsome. 561 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm just said he wouldn't. I'm said he didn't go 562 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: that route. Maybe he did and. 563 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 5: This was just a side project or side gig, but 564 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 5: five yeah. 565 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: Do you don't want to find out what he intended 566 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: to do with this stuff because it's like, was it 567 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 4: jewelry involved? Was he? I mean, what's what's the what's 568 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 4: the end game here? 569 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: Right? We don't know? 570 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: Uh. 571 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: He he did cooperate with investigators. He showed them the 572 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 3: graves in this in this cemetery that he stole from. 573 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: He's currently jammed up on a million dollar bond us. 574 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: There is no lawyer listed in the court records at 575 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: the time. He might have to get a public defender. 576 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 3: There's not really any uh any update on motive. It's look, 577 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 3: he was hitting up the largest abandoned burial ground in 578 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: the United States, at least according to the one of 579 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: the nonprofit volunteer organizations that tries to upkeep it, the 580 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: Friends of Mount Mariah Cemetery. It's one hundred and sixty 581 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 3: acres one hundred and fifty thousand gravesites. He probably would 582 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: have kept going. We don't know what his project was. 583 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: We don't know what's going to happen to him. Our 584 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: main takeaway here is, guys, just don't rob grapes. 585 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, that look it looks like they uncovered after 586 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: a search they found that he was trying to just 587 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: sell them, like he was selling skulls to people online. 588 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 4: Well, and that's I don't know if you guys have 589 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: ever encountered this. I once was buying a drum machine 590 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 4: from a guy that I met on the internet or 591 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 4: on like some forum, and I went to his house 592 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 4: and he had a pretty significant collection of human skulls. 593 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: So that is a thing people do, and it is 594 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 4: very illegal to transport across you know, state lines. 595 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: You can own a human skull, you can't own it. 596 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: Sound so you shouldn't a shrunken head. But you know, 597 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with a little yorick now and then, 598 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: as far as the law is concerned. 599 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 4: But that's the deal. It's to own it, but it's 600 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 4: illegal to transport them. Human room. There's this weird little 601 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 4: like the yeah minutia around you know the law concerning 602 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 4: you know, the same the broker ing of human remains. 603 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: Like back in the days of the resurrection men. Again 604 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: the weird laws in parts of Western Europe that said 605 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 3: it's not illegal to dissect the corpse, but it is 606 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 3: illegal to a choir a corpse. So look, it's just 607 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: it's gross stuff. It's gross for the surviving family members 608 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: and loved ones. They did find pacemakers, jewelry linked to 609 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: the cadavers, linked to the graves. We don't know the 610 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: motive yet. We'll update if we hear more. But we 611 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 3: do have another home rate that we have to talk 612 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: about before we move on. It's a very important one. 613 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 3: It concerns the living, friends, neighbors, countryfolk. The FBI, Federal 614 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: Bureau of Investigation, has crossed a bit of a rubicon, 615 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 3: as we record. They have rated the home of a 616 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 3: Washington Post reporter. Let's go to the Guardian and let's 617 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: all get worried together, so play along with us. At home. 618 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: There is a journalist named Hannah Nathanson in at A N. 619 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: S O. N lives in Virginia. FBI came down hard. 620 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: They they raided her home in the early hours of Wednesday, 621 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: as we record like this morning before going in to 622 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: record strange news. The Washington Post called it quote highly 623 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 3: unusual and aggressive end quote, and various you know, press 624 00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 3: freedom groups, journalist rights supporters, actually people who sup or 625 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 3: at the Constitution. They excoriated this. They condemned it. It's 626 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 3: it's violating the concept of journalism. Critics say, now, have 627 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 3: you guys heard about this? 628 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is. 629 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: This is extremely complex, right, I mean, and part of 630 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 2: me personally comes down on the you can't do that. 631 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 5: You can't raid. 632 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: A journalist's home and take her phone in garment, watch 633 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 2: and look at all of her devices in her home 634 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: and you know, find evidence on her just because she's 635 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: got sources that you don't like, right, Because that's what 636 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: it's about. 637 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: Right, This, this did occur with a warrant. You can 638 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: call it rubber stamp Warren if you wish. This was 639 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: an attempt to gather information and reveal sources from the 640 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 3: journalist because she was quote obtaining and report wording classified 641 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 3: and illegally leaked information from a Pentagon contractor. They also 642 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: go on to note that the leaker is currently behind bars. 643 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: And when I'm saying they just to be clear who 644 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm quoting here is Pam Bondi, the current Attorney General 645 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 3: of the United States, talking on social media on x 646 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 3: dot Com. It's it's pretty it's pretty frightening stuff because 647 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 3: it reminds me of the earlier conversations regarding how the 648 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 3: Pentagon has chosen to treat journalists. 649 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, overall, Like, right, how many stories have we talked 650 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 2: about over the past couple of months? 651 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 3: About as many as we're allowed to, Man, dude. 652 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: I know, but it's got to be at least three 653 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: or four specifically about who can report what out of 654 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: the Pentagon, right and where they can be located. 655 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: As from briefings, et setup. 656 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: In this case, we have a journalist who began obtaining sources. 657 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: She would talk to people, and then those sources would 658 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: talk about her and say, hey, you can give your 659 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: your information to her if you want to speak up. 660 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: Let's say, if you're deep inside a government organization like 661 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: the Pentagon, or maybe you're one of the over one 662 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: thousand other sources that she had gained access to who 663 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: were inside government organizations. 664 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: I think sixty nine. 665 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's why she was dangerous to the administration, right, 666 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: And that's why they needed to do a show force 667 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: here and just say, hey, if you're inside one of 668 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: our organizations, you cannot talk to journalists about this classified stuff, 669 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: or this is going to happen both to you in 670 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 2: the case of this primary source that's being talked about 671 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: here in the Guardian and reported on, or the journalist 672 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: who's putting stuff in newspapers. 673 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this brings us to another bag of badgers. 674 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 3: This brings us to quite a tall milkshake, a real 675 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 3: pickle journalism and the security or anonymity of sources. Now, 676 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: a lot of us in the crowd tonight have heard 677 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 3: these concerns before. This is not unique. This is again, 678 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: how do I put it, It's crossing a rubicon of 679 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 3: things that are have long been considered inherent to the 680 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 3: democratic experiment of the United States. So this is a 681 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: worrying flag. This is a sign We've got a little 682 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 3: bit long on here. There's so much more to talk about, 683 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: but I got to commend the work of Richard Luscomb 684 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: and Jeremy Barr and of course Hannah and Nathanson. We 685 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: are going to keep an eye on this one because 686 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 3: I agree it is definitely for a regime that loves 687 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: political theater. This is definitely an attempt to set an example. 688 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna pause. We're not going to get to a 689 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 3: lot a lot of other weird stuff, including the EPA, 690 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 3: but we'll we'll return with more of that perhaps in 691 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: the future. For now, let's take a break for a 692 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 3: word from our sponsors and return with more strange news. 693 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 5: And we've returned. 694 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: Well, guys, hey, at least journalists aren't being summarily executed 695 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: in our country yet, so you know, we've got a 696 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: time window here before that happens, at least because we 697 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: just talked about shrunken heads or Sansas. We wanted to 698 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 2: bring up a story that we saw coming out of 699 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 2: Ecuador that was particularly grizzly. So warning here, I suppose. 700 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, we just did talk about a 701 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 3: grave robber. 702 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah we did, so, Uh, people have been If you're. 703 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 3: Anybody who was worried earlier, has probably already a hot Yeah. 704 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 2: This is this is your post disturbing content apology instead 705 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: of a setup. But here we go. This is coming 706 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: to us from AP News, the Associated Press, and it 707 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: was posted on January eleventh, twenty twenty six, coming to 708 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 2: us out of Quito, Ecuador, five human heads were found 709 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 2: hanging from ropes on a beach in southwestern Ecuador, according 710 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: to police there. Apparently it is a part of a 711 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: wave of violence related to drug trafficking. Now, we've talked 712 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: before about the country of Ecuador and how it is 713 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 2: going through some pretty pretty tough times because of the 714 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: differing drug trafficking routes that are now happening. 715 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 5: Talked about how. 716 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 2: You know, you've got Columbia right there smackdab between Venezuela 717 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: and Ecuador, and you know Panama of course, we talked 718 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 2: about and where the drugs actually end up exiting out 719 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 2: of Colombia, and how that's changing a lot, and how 720 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: that has really changed the landscape of let's say, groups 721 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: who are totally cool with some criminal activity. Generally you 722 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: would use the word gangs associated with out our cartels, 723 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: and that is happening a lot in Ecuador. According to police, 724 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 2: this incident had something to do with a conflict between 725 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: two of these different criminal gangs or these groups, right, 726 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: these cartels, and I'm just reading directly from this ap article. 727 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: Drug trafficking networks with links to transnational cartels are active 728 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: in the area and have used fishermen and their small 729 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 2: boats for their illicit activities. A dispute for territory and 730 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 2: control of drug trafficking routes has triggered violent episodes across 731 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 2: the Manobe Province, which is where this place, Puerto Lopez 732 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: is located. You can read more about this in the 733 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 2: AP News. Particularly grizzly and just a really horrendous thing 734 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: to discover. If you imagine just going out on the 735 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 2: beach and seeing five heads hanging there from ropes. Yeah, 736 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about this much more, guys, 737 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: anything to say about the heads. 738 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 3: It's like some yeah, it's it's it's definitely a line 739 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 3: of sand of warning. As we said earlier, it's it's 740 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 3: quite grizzly. 741 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 4: It also aligned with the sunset talk and how a 742 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 4: head is the ultimate warning because you know exactly who 743 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 4: or what set that head belonged to. 744 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 3: It's also interesting in that it shows it shows a 745 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 3: vin diagram that we've always suspected between law enforcement and 746 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 3: organized crime up to a certain point. And the thing 747 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: is that brutality, like any other disease, is contagious, right, 748 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 3: so these actions are unconscionable and they're grabbing headlines because 749 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 3: of course they're human heads on stakes. However, we have 750 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 3: to remember that there's much more to the headline, and 751 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 3: I think it'd be worth exploring getting under the hood 752 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 3: of Ecuador here. 753 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, we should definitely do a larger episode 754 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: on that, Ecuador and Venezuela and all of that. It'll 755 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 2: kind of be an update to our episode on Panama 756 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: and and that will area right where the drugs flow. 757 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, get out of my head. Yeah, let's do an 758 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 3: episode on Ecuador. We had show, we got an episode 759 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: on that as well. 760 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, hey, speaking of getting into things, what about 761 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 2: getting into our electronic devices? Guys, Let's go to ABC 762 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: Denver channel seven to hear some reporting from Maggie Brian 763 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 2: about something super cool, something we've talked about on the 764 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 2: show before. Colorado's latest Right to Repair a law, which 765 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: went into effect on January first, forces device manufacturers again. 766 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: Hear that forces device manufacturers to share specific parts, tools, software, 767 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: and manuals to fix broken devices. This law covers everyday 768 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 2: electronics and appliances like phones, laptops, dishwashers, vag right to 769 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 2: Repair stuff right yes, and sewing machines. 770 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 3: And LaserDisc and uh. 771 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 2: Yes, machine fax machines, it's your whole palm pilot. 772 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 773 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 4: The previous thing we discussed on this was things like 774 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 4: farm equipment, right, yes. 775 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: Pharmacy huge. Uh. 776 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 2: In this case, look, Denver's just pushing the needle. Okay, 777 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: Colorado says, hey, we're gonna we're gonna move this forward 778 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 2: a little bit. At least now you can repair your phone. 779 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 2: And this is also stated here and it is very important. 780 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: This latest law includes exemptions for marine vessels, aviation motor vehicles, 781 00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 2: medical devices, certain safety and security equipment, and video game consoles. 782 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 2: So congratulations Sony. 783 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 4: Speaking of ve did y'all hear that somebody jail broke 784 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 4: the PS five and that Sony is not happy about it. 785 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 3: I thought they were gonna send the guy a high five. 786 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 2: Well no, but really, but no. Imagine like if you 787 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: own a PS five and you go into that store, right, 788 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: and you see all of those brand new, shiny, awesome 789 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 2: titles that you're just oh, you just want to try, 790 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: you want to play the Ghosts game that you're playing. 791 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:35,959 Speaker 5: Ben. 792 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 2: I think about that one a lot. I remember opening 793 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 2: the PS five app store and looking at that because 794 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 2: it was advertised and pushed on the front, and you 795 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 2: look at the price tag, and you go, ah, how 796 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 2: can I justify this? How can I do this? But 797 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: then of course I go through and I'll buy like 798 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 2: three things for that same price because I go on 799 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I feel some sort of way 800 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I reserve it. 801 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 3: You broke this, you know what I mean. There's a big, 802 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 3: big bit of psychology to that, and I think what 803 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 3: we're well, we're also talking about, Matt is You're getting 804 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 3: to just a phenomenally fascinating point. Now we all know 805 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 3: that my car stuff evenings and days have made me 806 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 3: even more radicalized into the idea of an ownership versus 807 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: subscription right, yeah, And I think we're all I don't 808 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 3: think I'm unique in that. I think we're all on board. 809 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 3: And we hope you are too. Folks. We are as 810 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: a society in the West, in the United States, we 811 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 3: are being pushed the average entity away from ownership and 812 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 3: towards subscription. It is going to Dylan, Man, I love you, 813 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 3: will you please beat me here? We have to say it. 814 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 3: A subscription based society is being stupid and bad. What 815 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 3: you've got to own stuff? Come on right to repair? 816 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: Why is this even a thing? Why does this have 817 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 3: to be a thing? 818 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 4: How how is it an? 819 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 3: What's next? The right to poop? 820 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 4: Bad for us, be great for them. 821 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 5: It's so good for them. 822 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: Oh, and this is something that's in this article for 823 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 2: Maggie Bryan over at ABC. Let's just quote the article again. 824 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 2: Democratic State Rep. Breonna Titone sponsored all three of Colorado's 825 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 2: laws expanding repair rights. She said while working to pass 826 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: the bill, she and other co sponsors faced pushback from 827 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 2: large corporations. And here's a quote from her. They don't 828 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 2: want to comply, or they want to comply to a 829 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 2: certain degree. That was one of the reasons why this 830 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 2: bill was delayed. It was mainly because of Apple, because 831 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 2: they needed time to change their iPhone design to actually 832 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: be able to comply. Yeah. 833 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 3: Also, I mean play adopts a lessons check our episode 834 00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 3: on that if you buy something and animate option, you 835 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 3: should be able to own it. The very first book 836 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 3: illegally unfairly pulled off the Amazon Kindle was indeed nineteen 837 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 3: eighty four Boo by George Orwell, you have when you 838 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 3: buy something, you have a right to own the thing. 839 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 3: This is just meloca. This is just so ridiculous. 840 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 2: So when you look at an object. Let's say a 841 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,959 Speaker 2: smartphone that you purchase. I'm looking at mine right now, 842 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 2: and you notice there doesn't seem to be a simple 843 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: way to open this. 844 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 3: Thing by design? Yeah it was crazy, Yeah yeah, Ed. 845 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 3: You can also what do we call it? You void 846 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 3: your warranty if you attempt at home repairs or if 847 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 3: you take it to a third party repair person. 848 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 5: How could you betraying me? 849 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 2: After all we've been through the Mother Corporation. 850 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 3: I stole your data from Instagram and you do me 851 00:52:59,239 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 3: like this. 852 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 5: I get birth to that phone? How dare you take 853 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 5: it to time? I'm sorry? 854 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 4: Do you mind if I backtracked for like two seconds? 855 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 3: Please? 856 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,959 Speaker 4: PlayStation thing? I just think it's like a digital version 857 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 4: of what we're talking about here. This is fascinating. Apparently, 858 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 4: a Star Wars racing game that released back in twenty 859 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 4: nineteen is now fetching hundreds of dollars on eBay because 860 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 4: its code is reportedly crucial to fire off. And I'm 861 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 4: reading from IGN here a new method of jail breaking 862 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 4: PlayStation five, which would unlock the ability to play illegally 863 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 4: pirated games and prevent the system from doing those online handshakes. Yep, 864 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 4: that check that you have you know whatever that you 865 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 4: have the right to play whatever game. 866 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 3: It's like that old I love these loopholes, guys, because 867 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 3: it's like that that legendary phone freaking thing that happened 868 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 3: by accident, the captain front whistle that could perfectly perfectly hacked. 869 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 3: The telephonic system that was back when you. 870 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,439 Speaker 4: Would actually use touch tone sounds to make things happen. 871 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, ed this we see again, hopefully we see a 872 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 3: beachhead here and we see a larger a larger movement. 873 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 3: If you buy something, you should have the right to 874 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 3: repair it. And I believe in our previous conversations I 875 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 3: had been on record speaking with uh, speaking with some 876 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 3: folks who have dealt with the Drayconian policies of some 877 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 3: farm manufacturing outlets. And I really appreciate you bringing that up, Noel. 878 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 3: It's not talked about enough in the United States. Matt. 879 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 3: I want to go back to you, though, real quick, 880 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 3: with the list of exceptions. You said certain security technology. 881 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 5: Yes, safety and security equipment. 882 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 3: Oh all right, well that kind of makes sense because. 883 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, the medical industry hardware thing is Oh. 884 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 5: There is a story in there, guys. 885 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an episode. It vaguely makes sense because it's 886 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 3: such a vague description. We need to hear the actual 887 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,439 Speaker 3: list of the devices that don't that are exempt from 888 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 3: right to repair. 889 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we do, but we're not going to get 890 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 5: them today. You know, we are going to get what 891 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 5: are we going to get today? 892 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 2: One final little piece of news because I found it 893 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 2: to be delightful, and I. 894 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 4: Don't want a delightful night. 895 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 3: I hope we find it delightful, certainly. 896 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 5: Oh, I hope you do. 897 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 2: I did, And now I give them to you here. 898 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 2: It is ready ready. 899 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 4: To received with them. 900 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: According to Futurism and Frank Landimore, a story published on 901 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: January thirteenth, the day before we are recording in Vidio, 902 00:55:52,640 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 2: Ceo says everyone should stop being so negative about aid. 903 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 4: Take can you guys, it's your problem? 904 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 3: Hey, did you see. 905 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 2: We're trying to build a massive Ponzi scheme here? 906 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 3: Peter would agree this is the best way to fight 907 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 3: the Antichrist. I was clocking some of those statements as well. 908 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 4: Tone deaf way that he put this forth. 909 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 3: I'm curious, Yeah, yeah, it just just everybody for precedent. 910 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 3: It reminds me of an earlier headline a little bit 911 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 3: before we started the show where the town prior would 912 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 3: run into the village and say, everybody's panicing about this 913 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 3: plague thing. 914 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 4: You know, I know what's the big deal? 915 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: Think you tell us to stop manufacturing it and creating 916 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 2: giant centers for the plague. 917 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 3: I'll kiss a pustual when I want. 918 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 2: Guys, you have no idea how much of the global 919 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 2: economy is wrapped up in these plague factories. 920 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 3: We're basically as plagues were propped up the economy. That's right. 921 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 3: We talked to the king. He's bullish on plague. Dude. 922 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 5: Okay, so so he looked. 923 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 3: Out the window for a while during his speech. But whatever, 924 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 3: oh god, we could get away with it. Keep it in. 925 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta have a fart, even when you're there 926 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 2: talking to all the oil executives. You just gotta let 927 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 2: one fly, and you only need a couple of feet 928 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 2: of space, you know, depending on Here. Here's a quote, guys, 929 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,959 Speaker 2: really quickly. Yeah, here's a quote from Jensen Wang, who 930 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: is the CEO there at Nvidia. He says he was 931 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 2: talking to no priors a podcast. Shout out to you 932 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 2: podcast fellow podcast quote, I think we've done a lot 933 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 2: of damage with very well respected people who have painted 934 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 2: a doomer narrative, end of the world narrative, science fiction narrative. 935 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that many of us grew up and 936 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 2: enjoyed science fiction. But it's not helpful. It's it's not 937 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 2: helpful to the people. It's not helpful to the industry. 938 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: That's that's me talking out of the quote here, that's me, 939 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 2: the guy talking to you, And it's not helpful to society. 940 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 2: It's not helpful to the governments. 941 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 3: Wait, so is that is that quote not helpful to 942 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 3: the industry? Is that part of the actual quote. 943 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 2: It's not helpful to the industry, it's not helpful to society, 944 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 2: it's not helpful to the governments. That I was just 945 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 2: pointing out that the man saying this quote is a 946 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 2: part of all of those things now in not in 947 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: some not so small way. 948 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, video legendary. Actually, this is why I 949 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 3: love our our strange news segments, guys, because this informs 950 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 3: episodes and we have we need an Nvidia episode. It's 951 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 3: just massive. 952 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 4: Did you all Grock That Grock is now going to 953 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 4: be incorporated into the Pentagon Systems. 954 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, seems like a great idea. 955 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, the least guardrailed, most hitlery loving AI platform and 956 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 4: by most accounts of the worst. 957 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 3: One, it's not great. And I just want to give 958 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 3: due respect to Tennessee man. We're recording remotely, and I 959 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 3: see your mute sign popping on and off, which lets 960 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 3: me know that you're getting a little heated up. I 961 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 3: love it. 962 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 6: I always get heated about AI. I just want I 963 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 6: saw another headline that the Microsoft CEO would really appreciate 964 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,439 Speaker 6: if you'd stop calling it slop this year. 965 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 4: Yes, can we just turned the temperature down a little bit? Guys? 966 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 6: On A I saw other people saying that Microsoft is 967 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 6: currently making a slop rating system, which I really love. 968 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, micro slops new sloperating system. 969 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 3: The Tennessee Pal, friends and neighbors, guys, ermager, everybody stop 970 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 3: being so worried about A or It's probably gonna be fine. 971 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll be just five anience. 972 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 4: Fiction guys, by the way, I mean, can I just 973 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 4: say too that Elon Musk and talking about incorporating rock 974 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 4: into these pening on syste and his view of the future. 975 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 4: He wants to turn Star Trek into a reality Starfleet Academy, 976 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 4: and he literally says we want to turn science fiction 977 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 4: into science fact. So this notion that science fiction, to 978 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 4: this notion that science fiction is somehow entirely separated from reality, 979 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 4: is incredibly tone deaf. 980 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 3: It's definitely dismissive. We we will definitely need more context, 981 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 3: which will find I believe in our semiconductor and Nvidia episode. 982 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah wait, no, wasn't there another story you had about 983 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 2: slop right? 984 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 4: No, there was a there's apparently some monkeys on the 985 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 4: loos in Missouri and there's a hunt for them, and 986 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 4: AI images flooding the internet are creating a real wrench 987 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 4: in the work, some monkey wrench perhaps in their efforts 988 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 4: to catch these monkeys because of like, you know, false 989 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 4: images of them, you know, doing monkey stuff in places 990 01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 4: that they aren't actually. 991 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Wow, monkey stuff. I love reindeer games. 992 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 4: Uh. 993 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 3: There was also a woman hospitalized after being triggered by 994 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 3: a pluribus ad on a smart fridge. 995 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 5: What I think, don't get a cartfridge. 996 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 4: They'll get a cartfridge. 997 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, uh, but do hang out with us. And actually, 998 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 3: you know what, let's amend that. Folks. If you are 999 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 3: listening to this show on your smart refrigerator, thank. 1000 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 5: You is almost bad. You need to use it. 1001 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 3: The avocado started bad. Just do it so that we 1002 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 3: make the Wakamuligator the musical. Yeah, I'm writing it down, 1003 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 3: Nolan'm pointing at you. I can't. I don't know if 1004 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 3: we had the right eye line, but I'm pointing at 1005 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 3: you or writing down. Refrigerator the musical. This is going 1006 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 3: to be big, the. 1007 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 2: Crooning fridge only from LG. 1008 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 3: Let's do it, guys, Let's make it happen. We're gonna 1009 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 3: text Tim Robinson right now and Zach Caanan, the guy 1010 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 3: who doesn't get enough credit for co writing this show. 1011 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 3: We can't wait to hang out with you, folks. We 1012 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 3: have so much more strange news to get to. I'm 1013 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 3: really happy to report I don't keep it vague for 1014 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 3: now that your three faithful correspondents here are going to 1015 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 3: be technically around the world in sooner than we think. 1016 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 3: And we're going to be sharing more details with that 1017 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 3: as it comes. In the meantime, we can't wait to 1018 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 3: hear from you. You can call us on a telephone, 1019 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 3: you can find us online. You can always send us 1020 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 3: an email, or you can tag us up on Netflix. 1021 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 4: Oh man, dude, Oh my gosh. Yes, please do watch 1022 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 4: us on Netflix. 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