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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and it is Week eight. Sure

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Speaker 2: is fantasy football season. It's time for the fantasy very

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Speaker 2: long oucus here we'll take a look here at the

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Speaker 2: upcoming schedule.

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Speaker 3: Is it the week with no bye weeks? There's one

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Speaker 3: weird week right, either this week or next week. There's

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Speaker 3: no by week.

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Speaker 2: You ask me questions, I don't know the answer to, Yett.

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Speaker 2: I haven't gotten into week eight yet.

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Speaker 3: All right, this is always the first time I hear

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Speaker 3: why we were doing this. We'll look at that. I know,

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Speaker 3: the Monday night game. That's the only one I know. Okay, sixteen.

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Speaker 3: If there's sixteen, then there's no biyes.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to really look at quarterbacks who are available,

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Speaker 2: because if there's a quarterback available in week eight, he

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Speaker 2: probably stinks. Two is the only one I pay attention to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Drake may could still be out there, but

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Speaker 3: he's probably scooped up by now too.

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Speaker 2: It's so like most leagues are like twelve teams unless

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Speaker 2: you're in super Flex. Yeah, yeah, you're not really hurting

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Speaker 2: for quarterbacks. Probably not much, right, although they'd pick up

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Speaker 2: to it last week, and then again, there was only

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Speaker 2: one three hundred yard passer this past week, so there's that.

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Speaker 2: So I had Richardson and Fields, so I picked up two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in that situation, yeah, yeah, you know, but you know,

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Speaker 2: are you going to be ready to move on from Mahomes?

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Speaker 2: Probably not for the draft? Yeah, you got to live

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Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, you know, you what we always talk about,

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Speaker 2: don't draft quarterbacks early. You know, I think I got

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love in our league seventh or eighth round something

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: Actually, come to think of it, in our league, I

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Speaker 3: only have Jayden Daniels. I decided I'm never going to

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Speaker 3: play my backup and then he plays. We probably does,

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Speaker 3: but I'm at least gonna have to keep an eye

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Speaker 3: out for your quarterback. You know, there's plenty of guys.

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Speaker 3: There's somebody I haven't pick up, Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's I think there's even better options than that.

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Speaker 2: Not that Russell Wilson would be a bad option, right,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna be out there. Yeah, uh at running

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Speaker 2: back this week, Camani Videll only rostered in fifteen percent

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Speaker 2: of leagues last night. Wasn't a ringing endorsement.

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Speaker 3: No, But we know they're going to run the ball,

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Speaker 3: we know they have a good line, we know Dobbin's

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Speaker 3: injury history, and Goss is on IR So I don't

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Speaker 3: even care about who Videll is. He's got a chance

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Speaker 3: to be the belcow. No, No, it's not that hard,

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Speaker 3: not that hard to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: Roshawn Johnson rostered in fifteen percent of leagues, that's an excitement.

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Speaker 2: Jlem Warren is only rostered in forty one percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: That is a mistake, that's a crime. Yeah, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about a guy at over one thousand total yards from

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Speaker 2: scrimmage last year and he's been hurt the first six

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Speaker 2: weeks of the season. Who's an injury away too from

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Speaker 2: really being a from blowing out asset. Yeah, and even

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Speaker 2: at that, he got enough, he did enough. You can

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Speaker 2: flect him. Now he got thirteen carries for forty four

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Speaker 2: yards or whatever. It's caught a couple of balls. That's

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Speaker 2: going to only continue it to Yeah, increase their team

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Speaker 2: cares are probably going to be there every week, but

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Speaker 2: he was out there constantly on every third down, and

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Speaker 2: they gave him a couple of series, and Wilson's got

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Speaker 2: quite the history of throwing the back. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 2: like he should be in every league. Absolutely mean, I

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Speaker 2: understand he was out for a little bit and maybe

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Speaker 2: dropped during by weeks. And so I was even listened

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Speaker 2: to a fantasy football show today and they're talking about

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Speaker 2: all the guys who are available, and they got to

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Speaker 2: Jaalen Warren and they just kind of glossed over it,

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Speaker 2: and then they ranked the guys in the order that

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Speaker 2: they pick him up, and Jalen Warren was like the

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Speaker 2: seventh guy on there. I'm like, are you nuts?

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Speaker 3: I'm taking them over the two guys you mentioned, absolutely easily. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's also a better football player.

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Speaker 2: He's a better football player than those guys. Uh. Justice

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Speaker 2: Hill eighteen percent rostered. I always roll my eyes, but

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Speaker 2: he's in a really good situation. He's out there every

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Speaker 2: third down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what if Henry stubs a toe, he'd be

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Speaker 3: out there a lot a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Tyler Goodson fourteen percent rostered. I think Taylor's

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Speaker 2: coming back, but Goodson's not a bad player. He's if

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Speaker 2: you got Taylor Goodson's your handcuff. If you're gonna think so,

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Speaker 2: I think is Goodson worth more to you than Sermon? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think yes, Yeah, Yeah, I think he's a I

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Speaker 2: think he pushed, he blew by him. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 2: a better receiver. Sean Tucker nineteen percent rostered last night's

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Speaker 2: game didn't do much to Uh. It's a three out

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Speaker 2: of backfield that he got. He got like eight, eight

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Speaker 2: or eight plays. That's why he was third. I hardly

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Speaker 2: noticed him. I was watching two games at one. White

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Speaker 2: was actually out there the most and then right behind him,

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Speaker 2: and then Tucker was just kind of out there picking

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Speaker 3: And like all my Dynasty leagues put people put in

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Speaker 3: like forty to fifty percent of their fab money for Tucker.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, have that them right? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver Juwan Jennings rostered in twenty nine percent of league.

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Speaker 2: So all those people that ran out to pick him

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Speaker 2: up after he had the big game dropped him and

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Speaker 2: dropped him.

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Speaker 3: But now you're standable. Now he's actually relevant again. I

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Speaker 3: think he's highly relevant. Yeah, it's a good offense. I

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Speaker 3: don't play the Chiefs every week, deebo. I assume will

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Speaker 3: be back in the fold. And I assume he's off

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Speaker 3: the trade market too.

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Speaker 2: By the way. Yeah, but Ayu's out. That's all you

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Speaker 2: need to know. All you need to know. Keon Coleman

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Speaker 2: rostered in third real quick on Jennings.

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Speaker 3: The Niners gave him money, They'd like him a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who was that Coleman?

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Speaker 2: Thirty two?

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Speaker 3: He had over one hundred yards And he's a high

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Speaker 3: draft pick and I understand it, but I think Cooper's

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Speaker 3: going to eat into him a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't play a ton of snaps. He

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Speaker 2: didn't play a ton of snaps. But Cooper might open

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Speaker 2: him up a little bit too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the whole passing game in general. Pie

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Speaker 3: might get bigger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's okay. Yeah, Ricky pearsall thirteen percent rostered, He

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Speaker 2: was jumping in. He was on the field a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first game ever is an NFL player, you can

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Speaker 3: but it didn't catch a lot of passes. No, would

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Speaker 2: I think I'd rather Piersall probably, but he's probably three

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Speaker 2: though he's just three. And the thing and McCaffrey's going

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Speaker 2: to be back. I heard maybe by week ten or

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Speaker 2: something like that. I have a hunch he gets back

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Speaker 2: sooner than originally thought that might. That might happen too.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I we'll just save you for the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's time. Yeah, Jaylen McMillan, two percent rostered.

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Speaker 3: Who's Jalen McMillan, Tampa Bay. His name the Washington Kid. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: I didn't talk about him. I know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. You know two percent rostered. He's

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be He's gonna be highly relevant. They throw

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Speaker 2: the ball a lot. He's Goblin was leading the league

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Speaker 2: in receptions, right right, right? It will be one for

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Speaker 2: one replacement. No, it'll be. But if he gets half

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Speaker 2: of what Godwin was getting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he's worth it. I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 3: like starting him this week, but I wouldn't mind him.

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Speaker 2: I would. I would be preemptive and go out and

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Speaker 2: get him now. Yeah, like I'm taking him ahead of

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Speaker 2: Pierce All and yeah Coleman, I mean he could get

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Speaker 2: over the second half of the season. You're looking at, well,

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Speaker 2: we got ten games left. He's gonna get sixty targets.

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Speaker 3: Evan's gonna be out for a while. Yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 3: now ye grab him. Cedric Tillman zero percent rostered. I

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Speaker 3: have slight interest just because Judy's bad, More's bad, Winston's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what we just think that. What we don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely gonna be Winston because the other guys

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Speaker 3: are all hurt. A dtrs hurt. Yeah I didn't, he

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Speaker 2: Signed Bailey Zappi today to fill out and put him

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Speaker 2: on the active roster in a second year.

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Speaker 3: I liked him a lot coming out of school. He's

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Speaker 3: been sitting in my on a lot of my Dynasty

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Speaker 3: teams doing nothing. Yeah, that's a good opportunity for him.

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Speaker 2: What we don't know is which one Winston likes the best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it looks like Najoku's really gets the

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Speaker 3: spike with Cooper leaving no matter who the quarterback is.

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Speaker 2: But I know Winston's gonna throw it downfield. Yeah, Jerry

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Speaker 2: Judy forty eight percent rostered. I have no interest, none,

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Speaker 2: not really.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why they had to go trade for

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Speaker 3: him and give him money.

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Speaker 2: It never made a very Brown's like thing to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a brand name guy. Romeo Dobbs forty four rostered.

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Speaker 3: We talk about this every week, I mean the three,

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Speaker 3: not Jalen Reed. Guys, you're just rolling the dice on him.

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Speaker 2: But two weeks ago he had forty nine yards and

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. This past week it was eight for ninety four.

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Speaker 2: I know, like it's it's screaming at us right in

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Speaker 2: our face that he's no worse than the number two.

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Speaker 3: I know, like I don't want to admit it because

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Speaker 3: I like the other two better. They're sexier names, they

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Speaker 3: have more ability. But Dobbs is trustworthy and he's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: an injury would really help him though, Yeah, not to him.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Troy Franklin one percent rostered. I'm not excited about

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Speaker 2: anything in the Denver passing game. I'm sure they want

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Speaker 2: to get him more incorporated. But Sterling Shepherd zero percent rostered.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned him, I mean, Baker likes him. He's had

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Speaker 3: a good career, He's had a massive injury history, but

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Speaker 3: he's moved the chainslot Mooring.

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Speaker 2: You know I can trust where he's going to be. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he'pe you in the field. Moore now, Jalen Tolbert twenty

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Speaker 2: percent rostered what he did this week? They were off,

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Speaker 2: they were off, so he did nothing. He did fines.

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Speaker 2: Probably that's why he's rostered in only twenty percent, because again,

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Speaker 2: everybody runs out to pick these guys up after they

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Speaker 2: had a game, then they don't have a big game.

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Speaker 2: Then bye week comes along and you caught something else

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Speaker 2: and yeah, ye yeah yeah. When you're picking guys up,

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Speaker 2: it should either be somebody that you think, well, the

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Speaker 2: way to look at it. Do I see myself at

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Speaker 2: some point this season starting this guy? Yeah? Is there

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Speaker 2: a path? Is there a path to something where I

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Speaker 2: can say on Sunday, Yeah, that guy's in my starting lineup.

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Speaker 2: If not, unless it's a stash of a running back,

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Speaker 2: I would say stashing running backs is a different world.

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Speaker 2: That's a different world. But if I've got a wide

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Speaker 2: he ever gonna start over my top guys? No? Then

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Speaker 2: don't pick him up right or don't hold on to him,

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Speaker 2: because all you're doing is wasting a roster spot that

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Speaker 2: you could have a good young running back sitting there,

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Speaker 3: And this is a time of year two. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: Buy or back quarterbacks, it's silly. We will pick up

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Speaker 2: videl you know, and if you're if your your your

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Speaker 2: so what he's not as good as your starter, right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: So we'll find someone just like them. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff that goes on. We like, we've

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Speaker 2: three tight ends, Like what are you doing? Why would

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this opportunity. I don't do it often,

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Speaker 2: Sometimes if you're if your number one defense is really good,

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, if you look ahead and be like, I'm

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Speaker 3: and these other ones, I kind of get it, especially

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Speaker 3: I think good, yeah, or a one week rental wild

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Speaker 2: I mean I've been streaming defenses all season long, and

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Speaker 2: You'll find a team that I can play that matchup.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the brown whoever the Browns are playing,

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Speaker 3: you're comfortable, New England or as long as it's not Carolina's.

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Speaker 2: Deep, Yeah, Tennessee. Just pick a team and roll with.

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Speaker 2: You know that they're not gonna beat, They're not gonna hurt.

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Speaker 2: They're playing against those teams, all right, They're not going

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Speaker 2: to score a bunch of points. No, right. Trying to

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Speaker 2: find tight ends here where we're at, because there are

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Speaker 2: some interesting tight ends. Kate Dotton has only rostered in

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Speaker 2: thirty eight percent of the leagues. Now, assuming Baker Mayfield doesn't

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Speaker 2: betterfit more than anybody, no doubt. I mean, Baker was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not a bad player. He's just sending

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Speaker 3: tight ends. Tight ends, don't burst on the scene in

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Speaker 3: the NFL, and You're might have been a Raven specific

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Speaker 3: be a Buck specific thing going forward. Correct, And it's

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Speaker 3: all you got and.

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Speaker 2: They got they got Atlanta, Kansas City, San Francisco in

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Speaker 2: the next three games. Yuck. Oh, okay, yuck. He should

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Speaker 2: probably be in every league though now. Yeah, but he's

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Speaker 3: Hunter heavy also could be the example of what I

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Speaker 2: No, No, if you're if you're somebody who's been I

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Speaker 2: just need three for forty you know right this week? Okay,

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Speaker 2: DU's goddard owner, Yeah, you know right? Hunter Henry rostered

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Speaker 3: I'm torn on him because he's so boring and he's

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Speaker 3: But he's okay, you know what I mean, Like he

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Speaker 2: In the two games with Drake mad quarterback it's been

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Speaker 3: That's good for today's yeahh right, it's not bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not bad. It will end up with eight touchdowns

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Speaker 3: maybe or you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly better than Kobe Parkinson, who's rostered in twenty

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Speaker 2: three percent of leagues. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter team I had to pick up Parkinson.

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Speaker 3: That was the best thing out there.

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Speaker 2: Uh, no offense rostered in thirty percent of leagues. You'd

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Speaker 2: a good game, but he's a tease. Yeah, zach Ertz

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Speaker 3: Great offense, and he'll continue to catch touchdowns. Yeah, sneaky

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Speaker 3: ones tast him Hill he's been dropped everywhere. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna throw and run. But their offense is, oh, it's horrendous, horrendous.

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Speaker 3: But he might run for touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He might. Johnny Smith four percent roster to you you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think too of coming back is

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Speaker 3: passes thrown his way last week. It's not gonna happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just insane that, you know. They just I'm keeping an

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Speaker 3: guys to football. Like, what are you doing right?

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Speaker 2: Right? Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean coming off a bye against some both vanilla

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Speaker 3: I mean they're lasting offensive EPA by a mile. And

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Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots exists right right? Looking at this

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Speaker 2: week's schedule. The Thursday night game is Vikings at Rams. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so that are playing. I mean the Vikings are the

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Speaker 2: stream but oh no, and you're not starting the Rams defense?

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Speaker 2: Easy one, right? That that could be utter destruction. It's

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Speaker 2: purple stands up to the Ravens are at Cleveland. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, I think they'll be in the field forever. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And wouldn't shocked me soon if Garrett's talking about getting

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Speaker 2: Titans at Lions, Lions, Lions, but they're probably in your league. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Titans have been a decent streaming value. Not this week.

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Speaker 2: Colts at Texans, yuck' you're gonna start the Texans?

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Speaker 3: Deft Saxons are probably in the league though too, Not

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Speaker 3: the Colts.

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Speaker 2: The Packers are at the Jaguars, yuck. Can you start

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Speaker 2: the Packers defense this week? Yeah, probably gonna end up

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Speaker 2: in the top twelve. Yeah, Jaguars are unstartable. Yeah, Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love might throw for six yds and after that secondary part.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals are at the Dolphins. No one, No, I

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Speaker 3: I mean a week ago, I'd say the Cardinals, even

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Speaker 2: Defense, they did give up just fifteen points to Justin

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Speaker 2: Might be a little rusty, I know. Yeah. No. Jets

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Speaker 2: at Patriots. Well, you're firing up the Jets defense despite

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Speaker 2: its issues. I'm no on the Patriots. No on the Paints. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's they're they're defense. They're bad offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm hearing stuff that they're trying to trade like

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Speaker 3: Uce and some of those guys too, which makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Falcons at Buccaneers. The Falcons defense playable this.

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Speaker 3: Week given what we've already seen with some of the

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Speaker 3: That's what I was leaning towards. Maybe maybe, I mean

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Speaker 3: they don't Bucks don't have any receivers. I'm not playing

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Speaker 3: the Bucks d No, Yeah, I think so. I mean

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Speaker 2: Eagles at Bengals.

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Speaker 3: We're not willing to say the Bucks are one of

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Speaker 3: those teams you stream against every week, but they might

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Speaker 2: They're knocking on that door. Yeah, what game was next?

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Speaker 2: Eagles at Bengals. No, and no, No, there's not a

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Speaker 2: ton of options. Here's here's a good one. The Saints

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Speaker 2: are at the Chargers. Oh yeah, I actually did the

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Speaker 2: Bills at Seahawks. I don't feel good about either one

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Speaker 2: I don't love it though. No, I don't love it either.

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Speaker 2: The offense was pretty darn good last week. Bears at Commanders,

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Speaker 2: never starting the Commander's defense and so much started anyone

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Speaker 2: with Marcus Mariota, if he starts, I'd think about it.

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Speaker 2: I'd give him some thought, but that probably wouldn't dump

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Speaker 2: the Bears. Yeah, if Mariota starts, ooh, Panthers at Broncos. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Denver's great. Carolina's unstartable even against a Broncos offense that

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Speaker 2: does nothing. Yeah, they're the worst defense in the league.

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Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are at the Raiders. The Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are are in every league and you're happy about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. No, in the Raiders, Cowboys add forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers, no one, no, no one. No. Niners aren't

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Speaker 2: a must start by any means. No. And then Giants

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Speaker 2: house was last year. They're not Giants and Steelers. Uh

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Speaker 2: didn't a saying like maybe week ten.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so still a couple of weeks away. Yes, on Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Giants aren't the worst one ever. Yeah, I'll get some sacks,

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Speaker 3: sacks or they're really good pass Yeah, they'll get some sacks.

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Speaker 2: But I think I still I mean five point two

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Speaker 3: We've had We've had a couple of discrepancies of yards

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Speaker 3: one point five yards. It's about as bad as you

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Speaker 3: can get in. That's like as bad as you can

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Speaker 2: You're right, Matt, there aren't any There's not a ton

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Speaker 2: of streamers, nobody, but there's nobody off this week, which

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Speaker 2: is what makes it really weird. There's no streamers and

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Speaker 2: everybody's everybody's playing. It's not all the matchups are crazy.

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Speaker 2: All the good team all the good defenses are playing

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Speaker 2: really bad teams and.

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Speaker 3: You probably just roll with what's on your roster nine nine,

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Speaker 3: ten times.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I don't see a lot there that

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Speaker 2: none of them were great. Yeah yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: all like Lions, Titans and Texans, Colts and Packers. I

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Speaker 2: guess the Packers would be Whackers are a decent one

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Speaker 2: at the Jaguars, Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who will be a cheap DFS one

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Speaker 3: when we get to that point of the week.

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Speaker 2: Jaguars now a team coming back from London. We're over

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Speaker 2: there for two weeks without without a bye week. Weird.

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Speaker 3: Jets didn't have a buye after they came back here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know the Jets requested it.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars might just want to do that every year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they figure since they stay over

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Speaker 2: it but used to it. I don't know, Stranger, you

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Speaker 2: gotta feel you gotta think that that affects your especially

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Speaker 2: when you've been over there for more than a week. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're really you got used to the times, and unless

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Speaker 2: unless they figure out some way that hey, we're just

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Speaker 2: going to stay on the eastern East Coast time here.

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Speaker 2: We're going to practice at seven o'clock in the morning

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Speaker 2: and do all that kind of stuff at three am

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Speaker 2: or something or three pm or whatever something crazy. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's weird. That is weird. But that's this week's slate

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Speaker 3: There's there's some good games, but there's not a lot

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all. And the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Akrocher Stadium on Monday night. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: should be like color Rush uniforms this week. Yeah, how

428
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Speaker 2: about that?

429
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Speaker 3: So you know I do that like biggest moment in

430
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Speaker 3: series history. There's like none, you know, like Cowboys and

431
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: Raiders and all the history of these old teams have

432
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 3: been super successful. I couldn't come up with very many

433
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 3: Steeler games that were good. I just picked the most

434
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Speaker 3: recent one.

435
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 2: Go back to two thousand and four, the first matchup

436
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Speaker 2: between Eli and Ben.

437
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Speaker 3: It might have been what I did. I'm trying to

438
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Speaker 3: think I did it like a week ago. Yeah, I

439
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 3: think I might have done that, or I did a

440
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Speaker 3: recent one.

441
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Speaker 2: But there was also the There was also the game

442
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Speaker 2: at Akrocher Stadium when James Harrison snapped the ball. He

443
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,199
Speaker 2: stepped the filled in as the long snapper and snapped it.

444
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Speaker 3: Over the head of I did a search for best

445
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Speaker 3: game in steel It was Giants history and not much

446
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: puffed up.

447
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 2: There was also the game with the Hurricane game where

448
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 2: that the Steelers had to fly in the morning of

449
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: the game. I remember in twenty eleven.

450
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should just leave that part black.

451
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: They also played. They also played there during COVID with

452
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: nobody at the meadow Lands, which is just ridiculous to

453
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: your job from that one when I when I followed

454
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: and you edited, you got to ask you just gotta ask.

455
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: I got to that's there was a Jets. But you

456
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: and Ben Jumius remember every game? Well, I mean, I'm

457
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: just thinking the ones I've been to. Well, I know

458
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: right right, my mind doesn't remember games like that. It's weird.

459
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: Tim and I was on this conversation.

460
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Speaker 3: Be like, remember the playback in eighty nine. I'm like, no,

461
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Speaker 3: I raced that from the memory bank so I can

462
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Speaker 3: look ahead.

463
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Speaker 2: I bet wolf in the memorable matchups against Lawrence Taylor

464
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: and probably pretty decent squads. Yeah, anyways, let's get to

465
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Speaker 2: a break. I didn't pick a good one. He is

466
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Speaker 2: Matt Williams and I am Dale. I'm not gonna do that.

467
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Speaker 2: I got to rewrite your all your off anyways, what's

468
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Speaker 2: the difference. Let's get their break. He's Matt Williamson, I

469
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Speaker 2: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

470
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. That's going to do it for

471
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Speaker 2: the Fantasy Football focus. When we come back, it is

472
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Speaker 2: Power Rankings day. Yay, Let's let's see where the league

473
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Speaker 2: is at. Yeah. Absolutely, we'll do that right after this.

474
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Speaker 1: And at least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and

475
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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven, home of

476
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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio, and.

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Speaker 2: We are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the

478
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson is Power Rankings time and as usual we

479
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Speaker 2: use the Eric Aedholmes rankings on NFL dot Com And

480
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Speaker 2: should be a little bit of movement this week. Yeah.

481
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Speaker 3: I mentioned Darren Shatz talking about the terrible teams. He

482
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Speaker 3: said there's five that are like historically bad. Yeah, and

483
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Speaker 3: I have the same five. Yeah, Giants aren't one of them.

484
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: So at one and six.

485
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Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers holding steady at thirty two, Yeah, I.

486
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: Think they're starting to separate from the pack even Yeah,

487
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 3: I mean they were really bad, oh man, I mean

488
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: against a backup quarterback to boot and.

489
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Speaker 2: Maybe put Bryce Young back in right at thirty one,

490
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: the one in six New England page Patrie to next, Yeah,

491
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 2: holding steady. I think they have.

492
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Speaker 3: I think they have the number of one pick they

493
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Speaker 3: do if it were ends today at thirty holding steady,

494
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Speaker 3: the one in six Cleveland Browns. I think they're better

495
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: now than they were a week ago. Though even without Amari,

496
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: I think Watson's that bad.

497
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: He was actually playing well.

498
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: He actually was before he got hurt. I think that's

499
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: an underreported aspect of this.

500
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Speaker 2: They got Nick Chubb back, he didn't look great. No,

501
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Speaker 2: And I don't know that he's at any point this

502
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Speaker 2: season going to be twenty five carry Nick Chubb.

503
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Speaker 3: I would kind of hope not for his sake, to yeah,

504
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: I mean maybe next year he is, and.

505
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Speaker 2: Wherever he's at next year, because it won't be in Cleveland.

506
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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't say that to be like, oh, no,

507
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: the Browns are on the Steelers roster or you know,

508
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: scheduled twice now they can't handle it.

509
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: They might be making vacation plans by that. Yeah, they

510
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: could be fire sailing within the next two weeks. They

511
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: could look completely different, hm, because they go who they

512
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: played this week, Baltimore. So they're gonna be one at seven,

513
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: Yes they are. And at that point you just gonna say, hey, guys,

514
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: it's who can we trade here before the deadline? Did? Could?

515
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: Chubby one? I sent you this cheap, I sent you

516
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: this the other night. What they traded in draft in

517
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Speaker 2: Draft Capital. What those picks turned into. It's insane. Yeah,

518
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: the three for just the first round. I'm looking it

519
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: up here now. I was gonna look at our text history.

520
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's that's what I'm doing. Okay, here it

521
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: is the three first round draft picks the Browns sent

522
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: to Houston for Deshaun Watson. We're used to pick Jordan Davis.

523
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: They all got traded. All the picks got traded, Jordan Davis,

524
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: Jimmy Gibbs, and Brian Thomas. Yeah you think the Browns

525
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: couldn't use those three guys right now? Davis is so so,

526
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: but those other stars he would start for the Browns

527
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: on their defensive line. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean every

528
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: team would want them. Yeah, and that doesn't even include

529
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: the later picks of tame, you know, right in the

530
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: money and yeah, this cap space and all that stuff.

531
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Speaker 2: At twenty nine, down one spot, the Tennessee Titans. They're

532
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: getting there, Yeah, they're pretty bad. At twenty eight, down

533
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 2: a spot, the Las Vegas Raiders. At two and five. Tight,

534
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: you're better than the Raiders. But they're back on Gardner

535
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: Minshew now because ain't O'Connell broke his thumb.

536
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't even get to see him and develop

537
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 3: them a little bit. Not that anyone thought the quarterback

538
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: the future is on the roster.

539
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: At twenty seven up two spots the Jaguars after beating

540
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Speaker 2: I think that's fair Patriots. I think I do think

541
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: those five.

542
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 3: Are pretty much clearly the worst, and the Jags are

543
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: better than them.

544
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: At twenty six, down three spots than New York Giants.

545
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: They were awful on Sunday, Yeah, awful, bad against a

546
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: not very good Eagles.

547
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: Now that I'm not impressed with the Eagles either, you know,

548
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: but Barkley's running all over them and not good. They're

549
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 3: a line so bad now with I mean the Thomas injury,

550
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: just kills ki. They can't operate off now, they really can't.

551
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: At twenty five, up a spot coming off a loss.

552
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: The two and four Miami Dolphins, how.

553
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: Would you rank them? Would you rank them with Tua

554
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: or without two? Well, he's not back yet, so right,

555
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: so he's activated. We don't know when he's you know,

556
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: the same thing with Cooper Cup last week, with thought

557
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: Cooper thought Cooper Cup on Friday was going to play

558
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: on Sunday, which is why we started Matthew Stafford and

559
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: didn't happen.

560
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: Because I ask because if it's with Tua, I would

561
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: have them noticeably higher than this without out of them

562
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: noticeably lower you know what I mean, pretty bad. They're

563
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: really horrific without them. And two is a good player,

564
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: but he's not Joe Montana. No, you know we actly two.

565
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they're never gonna lose again.

566
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it shouldn't hurt you this bat shouldn't.

567
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be unwatchable the distant thirty second offense because

568
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: two attag of below got hurt.

569
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an average NFL quarterback, right, that's what I'm saying.

570
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: It's not Mahomes. At twenty four down three spots, the

571
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: two and five Saints, they'd be lower. They're really bad.

572
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: It's currently constructed. They have nothing.

573
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: At twenty three up two spots the two and four Rams,

574
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: that's fair, that's where they belong. At twenty two down

575
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: two spots the Jets. They're two and five, four game

576
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: losing streak.

577
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: The good players, but they're not a good organization and

578
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: they don't play well.

579
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: At twenty one up three spots, the three and four Cardinals.

580
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they did some good thing. James Connor

581
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: was really good last night. Yeah, you know, give them credit.

582
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: At twenty up two spots, that trade James Connor noeaw

583
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: up two spots the Cincinnati Bengals at three and four.

584
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: The Bengals better than the Chargers in Denver.

585
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals would lose to the Chargers right

586
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: now if they played, I think they might lose to

587
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: Denver too.

588
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the tough teams, right, Yeah, those teams would run

589
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: the ball against them and Cincinnati.

590
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: Their defenses are good enough. They would give Cincinnati problems.

591
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: Oh, they'd rush the passer, yeah, could get hit.

592
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. At nineteen holding Steady the Cowboys not great. I

593
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: bet they end up higher than that one.

594
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: The season's over and you know, have a winning record,

595
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: but I don't think they're a contender.

596
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: At eighteen holding Steady the Colts. They're four and three.

597
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not terrible. I guess they have to stick

598
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: with Richardson though.

599
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you know. At seventeen, down two spots,

600
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: the three and three Chargers, I'm fine with that.

601
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: I think i'd still have them over the Cardinals, despite

602
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: watching last night's game.

603
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: At sixteen, down two spots, three and four San Francisco

604
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: forty nine.

605
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: Ers, it's fair. Yeah, I think i'd have them over

606
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: everyone listed, but constructed, it's ten type of team by

607
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: any means there they get run on. The defense isn't

608
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: what it has been. Everyone just talks about the weapons,

609
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: but it's not great.

610
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: At fifteen down four spots the Falcons.

611
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: Not a great loss. Yeah, it was a bad one

612
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: at home. You're right, a little bit of the luster

613
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: is gone. Yeah, I'm okay with it there though.

614
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: At fourteen up three spots to four and three Seahawks,

615
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: who just beat the Falcons.

616
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: They have to put the Seahawks over the Rams. Yeah,

617
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: they're trending in a pretty good direction. The huge key

618
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: with Seattle is when they were getting beat up bad,

619
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: their d line was in shambles. Now healthy again, and

620
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: they rushed the passerwalk.

621
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: At thirteen down four spots the four and three Buccaneers. Yeah,

622
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: but going the wrong way, Like I don't.

623
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't pick them to beat Seattle today or the

624
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Niners after the injuries.

625
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: At twelve up four spots the Denver Broncos.

626
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: Two Rich that's they're not the twelfth best team. It's

627
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: getting better. He's a good coach. They're physical.

628
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: I think they'd be closer to like Bengal Land than me,

629
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: you know. Now five spots lower at eleven up two

630
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: spots the four and two Chicago Bears. Yeah, I'm cool

631
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: with that. At ten up two spots the four and

632
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: two Philadelphia Eagles. This is the.

633
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: Problem right now, this area. Yeah, I'm not super impressed

634
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: with this area. But they're better than the Niners and

635
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: Chargers and teams we brought up. But this is kind

636
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: of a weak area of the league right now.

637
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: At nine up a spot, the five and two Steelers.

638
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: They're definitely ahead of everyone mentioned. They're a better team

639
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: than anybody that's been And I know they lost to

640
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: you know.

641
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: I get it right, they lost the Dallas and the Colts,

642
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: but that doesn't.

643
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Mean they're Every team on here has got bad losses.

644
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone didn't do that whole principal. Well, you lost

645
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: to them, and he lost to you. But they're definitely

646
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: above the Eagles.

647
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: At eight down four spots, the Houston Texans. I don't

648
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: love it.

649
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: The offense is the defense is much better than the offense.

650
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: Like the Boa, they're not even closed. Yeah, I mean

651
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: one side not had as good as second season. No,

652
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: and you often see that with these young quarterbacks. So

653
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: they burst onto the scene and then they take a

654
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: step back. Yeah, I mean, and the whole team's alex

655
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: plexic last principal team. I mean they were remember when

656
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: they lost the steel How could Steelers lose to this team?

657
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: Because everyone thought they were bad and then they were

658
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: really really good. They took this huge step.

659
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: And then you're almost always to take a step back

660
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: at seven up a spot Washington. I'm still not one

661
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: hundred percent Steelers are a better football team than Washington.

662
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: I think, who have they beaten? Like, I'm picking Houston

663
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: against them right now? Yeah, would you take the Eagles

664
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: over them? I don't know if I'm there yet, but

665
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: I would take the Steelers. Yeah. The Steelers defense and

666
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: we'll see it in a few weeks here, but they're

667
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: not running around like you know, scoring thirty five points

668
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: on the Steelers defense or just not and the Steelers

669
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: will run the ball down their throat.

670
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: I am still really reluctant to even say they're a

671
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: playoff team. I mean, I know, I respect what their

672
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: season is gone, but man, good for them.

673
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: Yes, but I mean, okay, you blew out the Carolina Panthers,

674
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: who are dead last on this right.

675
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: Come on, they hung with the raven I mean like

676
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: they've had a good year, but it's yeah, they.

677
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: Have had they didn't win those. Everybody kind of hangs

678
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: with the Ravens at this point, but you don't do

679
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: you beat them? That's the Yeah, I'm still not there

680
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: with Washington. At six up a spot, green Bay, I'm

681
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: there with them. Yeah, at five up a spot, Buffalo,

682
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: I might have green Bay over Buffalo.

683
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: But I think these top six kind of stand out.

684
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: At four up a spot or down three spots, I'm

685
00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: sorry Minnesota. Yeah, at three up two spots, Detroit, I

686
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: would have Kansas City at three.

687
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: I don't know who had won, but if Kansas City

688
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: three at two up a spot, Baltimore, I'm not sure

689
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: if I had have Baltimore, the Lions one and one

690
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: is Kansas City. I get the respect and all that they're.

691
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: The only unbeaten team in the league. I get it.

692
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: They're the champs, you know, going for a three peat.

693
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: I mean, they're formidable, there's no question, but they're not great.

694
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

695
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: A weird like stat thing with them is they're they're

696
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: super good at success rate. They don't have any big plays,

697
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: but on third and seven they get eight like all

698
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: the time, you know, like they're just always they get

699
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: just enough this year. It's a hard way to live.

700
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: But it's also.

701
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: Outside of Mahomes who won. That offense scares.

702
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: You, right exactly. You know, it's like he has to

703
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: play really, really well to be.

704
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: A good success rate team.

705
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: You know, his numbers aren't flashy, but he's doing things

706
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: behind the scenes that are better than you think. Yeah,

707
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: but it's not great.

708
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean they're not team they've been, no, not at all.

709
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: I mean the defense is actually carrying the team.

710
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: Yes, it's absolutely it's Mahomes and the defense and what

711
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: the strengths are right now.

712
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: The O line's fine, but they don't run the ball great.

713
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 2: Would you trade for a back? I mean it's easy

714
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: to say you'd trade for a receiver, but if you

715
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 2: can get at Or, I'd be calling this the Cardinals

716
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: about Connor for sure.

717
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an upgrade even over the checko to me. Yeah,

718
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: that makes you a better team.

719
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: Makes you catch a ball, yeah, pass for tech does

720
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: the dirty work. Yeah, I need someone else to be

721
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: a threat they really do any sort. Yeah, just it

722
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: would just make them so much better not put everything

723
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: on mahomes plate.

724
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: Which is why they went out and drafted Worthy and Brown.

725
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: But then you lose Brown and Rice and you're kind.

726
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: Of back to where you work. I hate Brown Rice. Yeah. Anyways,

727
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: that's Eric at Hoolmesh Power rankings. We see a little

728
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: shake up there at the top and the Steelers coming

729
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: in and ninth. Is that where we'd have them? I

730
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: would have them ahead of Washington. Yeah, you know, Steelers

731
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 2: versus Houston is a conversation. I think i'd have a mate. Yeah,

732
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I definitely. I think they're ahead

733
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: of the Eagles right now. I feel very good about that. Yeah,

734
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles are missing stuff.

735
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: Stusph quarterback. Like, I did a mailbag show today and

736
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: it's a really ad question. They're like, if we can

737
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: count on the Steelers having a top five special teams

738
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: and defense? I'm like, I think we could probably count

739
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: on that, right, Yeah. Can they get to league average

740
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: offense with Russ? That's not crazy.

741
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: They're not that far from league average now, right?

742
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: And then I took a step further. I'm like, well,

743
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: what if they get to twelve? What's the ceiling of

744
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: this team? Pretty good?

745
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: They're actually averaging people would be surprised by. But they're

746
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: averaging more points per game than Kansas City.

747
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: That actually doesn't surprise me, but that would surprise many people.

748
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: Defense would you rather have?

749
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: Right? Right?

750
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: And going forward? I think it's even more apparent because

751
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: in the quarterback situation.

752
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, everybody says, well, you gotta be able

753
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: to score a bunch of points to be Kansas City. No,

754
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: you have to be able to score points. Yeah, they're

755
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: not a bunch of points. Now, you're gonna need a

756
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: bunch of points right right. Their defense is good. Yeah,

757
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: that's the reason they're six and zero. Absolutely, let's get

758
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am

759
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 2: Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive on the Steelers

760
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: Audio Network. We'll be back to finish up the show

761
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: right after this. At least.

762
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

763
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

764
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

765
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson.

766
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: And uh, that was an interesting break.

767
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys have some stories, man, I'm not messing

768
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: with any of you guys on the road.

769
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: It was especially TV was attacked, man, I was I

770
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong, I drove away. So Ben Solac

771
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: on ESPN, Matt has some uh his Week seven spin, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

772
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: I like Ben's work a lot. Yeah, and some things

773
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: here that he mentions, uh said, uh with the ravens

774
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: Lamar is most valuable again this season.

775
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: I agree, I disagree. Okay, I had a hunch shut

776
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: three yeargo.

777
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: I think Derrick Henry is more valuable. I think I

778
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: think Derek the the we talked about earlier in the show.

779
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 2: I think having Derrick Henry, the threat of Derrick Henry

780
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: in the backfield makes Lamar a much more dangerous.

781
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: But he's he's playing great. Yes, don't get me wrong.

782
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: I think he's playing better than last year. But I

783
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: also thought last year's MVP bar was lower the most

784
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

785
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: But my point is, if you take Derrick Henry out

786
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: of the equation, is Lamar having the season that he's having,

787
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: if it's if it's Joe average running back.

788
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: I thought we're gonna have a different conversation. I thither

789
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: you're gonna say Jared Goff should be the MVP, or I.

790
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: Mean golf should be in the conversation. He's sure phenomenal, right, right,

791
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: He has I heard this stat the other day. He

792
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: has they have more touchdowns in the last three weeks

793
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: than he has in completions.

794
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: I heard that he is the ball is not hitting

795
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: the ground at all.

796
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: And he's in a really good situation. Yeah, so is Lamar.

797
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: And Henry adds to that massively. I mean, is he

798
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: the best? I mean, you'd have to really think about it.

799
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 3: Is he the best free agent addition to any team?

800
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: It has to be in the conversation. In the conversation

801
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: for sure, And usually running backs don't matter that much,

802
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: but he does so.

803
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: He makes them that much more difficult to play against.

804
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: And and Lamar's good. Here's a lot of edwards. But

805
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: they also they also still have two losses. And you

806
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: know he talked about it with Mahomes. Yeah, his numbers

807
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: aren't gaudy, but they're unbeaten. If they had a fifteen

808
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: and two, they're harder than I He's the the beyond

809
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: the number, beyond the the stat sheet numbers again. Oh yeah,

810
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: third down conversion rate with with if you put Lamar

811
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 2: in or if you put Mahomes in Lamar's situation right now,

812
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: the Ravens don't lose their They don't have a loss

813
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: if you put Lamar in the chief situation with all

814
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: those no receivers. Basically, I don't know, it's not the same.

815
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: He's good, it's not the same. But they still be

816
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: a really good team. They be good team, a good defense,

817
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: you know, but.

818
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 3: Like if you stuck golf in Kansas City, it wouldn't

819
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: be as good. No, you know, obviously you know. But

820
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: all right, so I'm slightly confused. If you were to

821
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: vote for the MVP today, are you saying it you

822
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 3: would vote for Henry?

823
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: I'd vote for Dereck Henry. Okay, he's on pace to

824
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: break the all time rushing record.

825
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he has a strong case, right, I

826
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: mean I think he's set to have like thirty touchdowns

827
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: or something too, I mean, like record, and I get it, Okay,

828
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: I was just thinking Lamar versus other quarterbacks.

829
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not just I mean, yes, it's been a

830
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: quarterback award, but of course Henry has been He's been

831
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: really good.

832
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: He's been He's been game changing for them. Yeah, I mean,

833
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: it's definitely the best back.

834
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: That was a close game last night, was it seventeen

835
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: ten and a half until he went nuts and then

836
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's it's you know, it was over.

837
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: It's over. It's over, right, the strong case.

838
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought we were going to fight about quarterbacks

839
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: because I don't think any other quarterback has a great

840
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: case right now.

841
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: Not really, Yeah, not really.

842
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: It's definitely not Burrow. Allen's came back to earth. First

843
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. I thought it was Allan Golf is

844
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: probably the one with the with the closest in Mahomes.

845
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: Homes will he'll be in it because she's Mahomes.

846
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Derek Henry has been to me the best

847
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: offensive player in the league this year.

848
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: If you were to bet now it might actually be

849
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: the time to do it.

850
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: Is who will get the award? Homes? Because I don't

851
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: think he's going to be ordinary. And here's what here's

852
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: what happens. And we saw this last year with TJ.

853
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: Watt and the Defensive Player of the Year award. Sometimes

854
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: the voters don't want to just do the same thing year.

855
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: If I said, Lamar's case is going to have to

856
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 2: be stronger than last year, and thus far it has been. Yes,

857
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: but he just won it last year, and are you

858
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: going to want to give him the award again, Yeah,

859
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: maybe not.

860
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: Frankly, I didn't consider any other positions and would have

861
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: voted Lamar. Henry's got a case.

862
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: If he sets the all time if he sets the

863
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: league rushing record and touchdown and touchdown record, you have

864
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: a hard time just saying, oh, he's the offensive player

865
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: of the year.

866
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course Lamar would contribute. But if they

867
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: lead the league in rushing by seven hundred yards or

868
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: something insane too, and average five point five yards of

869
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: carry or something bonkers, and you know they're thirteen and

870
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: four hosting playoff games, it's got a case. I mean,

871
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: Lamar would probably win it in that case, I mean,

872
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: just because that's how voters go.

873
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: But but again, is Lamar are Lamar's number is going

874
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: to be historical, and I know he's on pace to

875
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: run for four thousand yards and or passed for four

876
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: thousand yards and rush for one thousand years, which is

877
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: pretty darn good, which is pretty darn good.

878
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: But if he sets the all time rushing record, I

879
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: mean that's a historic move, right, and the touchdown record,

880
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: there aren't any receivers that can win it, I mean,

881
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: like Tyreek.

882
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's having that kind of season.

883
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not Jefferson now, So if it's any

884
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: back Henry and he's a bigger than like him and

885
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: McCaffrey are the big enough names that could actually win

886
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: the award, you know.

887
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: And it could be you know, people could you know,

888
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: the voters might because there is a human factor this

889
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: and by all accounts, Derrick Henry is a great guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

890
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: and he's never really won anything like that. And if

891
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: he's the reason why the Ravens have were good last year,

892
00:42:54,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: good enough for you know, Lamar to win MVP Award. Yeah,

893
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: Dereck Henry to the equation and now all of a sudden, oh,

894
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: they're just you know, Juggernaut.

895
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: Offensively, offensively especially Yeah, and you mentioned the human element,

896
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: like I think Henry goes to the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

897
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: but if you look at him compared to other Hall

898
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: of famers, it's not that impressive, you know, because Peyton

899
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: and Emmett and those guys just carried the ball more,

900
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 3: played longer. You know, running backs in this era aren't

901
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: going to look good historically great. But I still think

902
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: he's goes because he's one of the best of the era.

903
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: If he wins MVP. You kind of start talking about

904
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: him as like an all time great.

905
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: It's the crowning moment for his career exactly. And he's

906
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: thirty years old.

907
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't look like most backs, you know,

908
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got unique traits to begin with.

909
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm bad. I know people want to

910
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: give it to the quarterback all the time, but I

911
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: wonder what the odds are on him. I bet they're long.

912
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: I bet they're better, much better than the three or

913
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks we yeah, yeah, absolutely, And he's just long

914
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: shot quarterbacks who consider like teams that aren't looking great.

915
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: Now that maybe I kind of thought about Burrow as

916
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: a long shot. I mean, I mean these are long shots, yeah,

917
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, like who could have a great second half

918
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 3: of the season and their team.

919
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Allen's always capable.

920
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: I don't knowsider him a long shot anymore. I don't

921
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: see him my homes a long shot like Dak or

922
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: somebody like that. He was second last year. I mean

923
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: I'm really trying to squint.

924
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Jade and Daniels was getting some push

925
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: for that, and you know, at this point, rookies are

926
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: tough too very difficult. I'll give you Rooie the year.

927
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: Then that's what he missed a couple of weeks. Brock

928
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: Bauers might push past.

929
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: Him, Yeah they could. I mean he's I wouldn't write

930
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: neighbors off either. I mean missed a week or two

931
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: as well. But his numbers were insane before that.

932
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, his next little thing all here later, Uh new

933
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: kids potentially on the trading block, throwing some names out there.

934
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is the first guy on there. I totally

935
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: get it, like he might. He might after the whole

936
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: booing incident. Yeah, of one of his teammates, and he

937
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: doesn't even get along with Deshaun Watson from what I hear.

938
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: No, I hear it's bad. I hear it's bad. Like

939
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 3: I heard they got in a fistfight in the locker room.

940
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: You see, you see one of your teammates on the

941
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: ground and in the home the home team or the

942
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: home team crowd is happy about happy about it. Yeah,

943
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: that leaves a bad taste in your mouth. And the

944
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: losing I've been.

945
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: There in such a bad shape financially, Like we didn't

946
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: talk about it, but Barnwell did an article yesterday about

947
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: the Saints, the Browns, the Patriots. I forget who else

948
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: Carolina who are in the worst shape big picture, The

949
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: Browns might be number one.

950
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: In that same Barnwell article, though, is silly because one

951
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: of the things that he had in there that was

952
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: working in the Browns favor, because he had all those teams.

953
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: You know, I still read, was there cap space? Their

954
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: cap space they had? Ye, it's a mirage. And even

955
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: in the article he said, well, they're going to have

956
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: to restructure Deshaun Watson next year to get cap space. Yeah,

957
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: how does that? He used to kill the Steelers for

958
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: doing that kind of stuff? They have every year. They

959
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: have tons of cap space that they're gonna roll over.

960
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: So that just gets them to zero. Yeah, that just

961
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: keeps their head above water at water right. Their cap

962
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: space is a nightmare. It's a nightmare.

963
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: Their quarterbacks seventy five million dollars a cap hit. I mean,

964
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: I don't care what else do you do cap wise?

965
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: It's horrendous. Back to the point, though, if I can

966
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: get two first round picks and maybe more for Miles Garrett,

967
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 3: you're probably a better franchise. But you're gonna not witning

968
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: anything next year with it.

969
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: He's he's reached a point in Cleveland where he has

970
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: to sign off on it. Lions, he has to sign

971
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: off on it. He just does. I know, it'd be

972
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: like the Steelers front with water cam or yeah, right,

973
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 2: like you're gonna go to the player, you know. Look,

974
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean you out right. Adams was that way, and yeah,

975
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean you. I mean I don't want to go there.

976
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: They don't have to go there. Yeah, but man, what

977
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: do you want? If I'm the Lions, I might give

978
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: you three first param with Hutchinson next year and maybe

979
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: win it all this year. Brown should say yes to two.

980
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: They should change. They should, but they're not smart enough.

981
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: I don't think they would. Yeah, I mean, they're not

982
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: gonna win an the next year, and before you know it,

983
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: he'll be kind of old, you know. I mean you've

984
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: got to hop on the stuff when he can. He's

985
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: the only valuable asset.

986
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting stuff there. I mean again, teams in the

987
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: division ones playing well, the other one's just loaded with

988
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: turmoil right now.

989
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: But if you're a team like Chicago that has a

990
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 3: lot of cap space and young quarterback on a rookie deal,

991
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: I'll give you whatever you want. He's got to want

992
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: to go there though, oh right, true, you know, does

993
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: he want to go to the terrible destination?

994
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, who knows what he wants. Yeah, anyways, that's

995
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: going to do it for the show to they Matt, Yeah,

996
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: fun one. Absolutely, we'll be back tomorrow. In fact, we'll

997
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: be back all this week. Indeed, no show on Monday. Though,

998
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: no show on Monday, We've got a Monday Giants.

999
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: They're not the most exciting team to break down, but

1000
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: we'll give you some Giants tidbits here.

1001
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll do that much much more the rest of

1002
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: this week. But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin

1003
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: Miller running the hotline here and the op board. Uh,

1004
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: we didn't use the Justin Miller hotline today, but we

1005
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: want to use it the rest of the week. We

1006
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: got Bob Labriola tomorrow. And for Tyler vitt Meyer. Somebody

1007
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: gave him kudos today on the uh after the on

1008
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: the comments they completely butchered his last name. Okay, I

1009
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: am Dale, Lollie. We thank you for listening to this

1010
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Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.