1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Flowing out of the backfield, 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: flumbing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, broadcasting 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 5 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross Tuesday. Tuesday, Kurt, 6 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: you're back. Glad to see you can make it. I 7 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: did make it. I didn't think I was running a 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: little bit late, but I didn't make it. There's no 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: way in hell I'm missing today show exactly. No way. 10 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: Were you all mad over there, man, Brownie mcfrownerton, No, 11 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting an idea. Man. He started to be like you, 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: boss man, what we have a guest though, You're definitely 13 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: gonna make it, man, damn right, especially this guy that's 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys in the building. What's up 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: with all these chords? Thank god? By the way, we're 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: having technical difficulties, which for the listeners is a great 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: thing because Douglas well, now they can still hear him. Yeah, 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: because they're gonna call in so true. But every time 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: you talk to us, they hear you. Together get my 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: bleep together. All right, let's get to it because this 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: is a busy man in this building. You guys got 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: issues back here. Oh god, you have no idea. This 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: is just the beginning. This is a good day started. 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: I believe that we would like to welcome to the show. 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Let me make sure I get this right. The assistant 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: director of College Scouting, correct, Chris Hall, How are you man? 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: It's been a while. I'm doing well. I've been a 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: few months. Yeah, keeping very busy? Is this year busy? 29 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: What's the busiest time of year for you? It's always 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: busy with what we do, believe it or not. It's 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: just a different part of the process depending on what 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: time of the year it is. Once college football gets going, 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: we're going full speed until the draft, so it just 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: changes gears on how we're attacking it. Basically depending on 35 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: what time of the year it is. How many guys 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: do you do you have that kind of roll up 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: underneath you. We basically have six area scouts that are 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: on the road full time, three more over the top guys, 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: and a director and then I get out a little 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: bit too, So there's eleven of us that are on 41 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: the road. You know, once we break out a training 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: camp in August until more or less after Thanksgivings, when 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: we kind of wrap up our fall tour, if you will. 44 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: As long as they're playing college football, we're out there 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: checking things out and getting information, watching practices, talking to coaches, 46 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: strength coaches, trainers, gathering as much intel as we can 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: during the fall, and we start breaking our list down 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: once we get into December. So you haven't quite started 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: narrowing and got the things down yet as far as 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: guys you're looking at. Not not yet. I mean, we're 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: still kind of painting with the big broad stroke right now. 52 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: And once we get everybody off the road, we have 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: some meetings in December after our combined meetings that we 54 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: belong to, and we kind of start really starting. That's 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: our first narrowing of the list and diving into who 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: we're going to be spending more time, really really putting 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: under the microscope as we get into the spring. Nice. Nice. 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I wanted to have Chris on 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: today was yeah, thanks Kurt, Yeah, sure for having Chris, 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, thanks for coming on. Was there 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: was so much debate and uh concern about giving up 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: a number one pick for Amari Cooper. I was just 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: interested from a scouting Wait before you, before you get 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: further down this line, did you prep Chris on what 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: you were going to ask him? Were you blindsiding because 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: we know how you like to blindside folks. Okay, all 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: right now, I gave him little heads up, sure, but 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: just from the I know you can't get real specific 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: on details, but just overall, how to scouting fit into 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: this that you say, you know, because giving up in 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: number one it's a hard thing to do. I mean, 72 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: how did how did this fit into the process? Sure, 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, my part of the price says being the 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: college guy isn't isn't a whole lot in depth with 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: when we're making personal moves on the pro level and 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: everything that's that's more our pro department and Will McClay 77 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: of course spearheads all that. But you know, on the 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: back end of it, we really really spend a lot 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: of time dissecting all the mechanics of this move. And 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: obviously you never ever like to give up a first 81 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: round pick and sit there idol on Thursday night of 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the draft while you know thirty one other teams are 83 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: getting better with a top player. But that being said, 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity to acquire a player of Amari's talent, who 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: was the fourth overall pick in the draft just a 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: few years ago and has been to Pro Bowls and 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: has the pedigree that he's got, you got to really 88 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: look at that hard and and when you look and 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: see that he's still under a pretty good contract number 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: for one more year, there's a lot of positives about 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: acquiring a player like that, even with the sacrifice of 92 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: giving up a high pick like that. And you know, 93 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I think you can see right off the Battamar he 94 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: has had a great impact on our team here in 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks that he's been here, and when 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: we certainly expect that to continue, not just this year 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: but into next year as we make a decision on 98 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: whether to extend him or not. Was there a lot 99 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: of debate about giving up to number one. I think 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: there's always debate about that. Anytime you're giving up a 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: draft pick, whether it's a number one or a number 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: six or a seven, you're still it's it's a potential 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: asset of the future that you're that you're giving up 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: for something that you hope can help now end in 105 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: the future. So you know, you always really go through 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: it very thoroughly as to what the are what are 107 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: we passing on by doing this, And you know, it 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: wasn't just getting a Mari, but it was looking at 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: what might be available next spring in the receiver crop 110 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: and not just the receiver crop, but I mean overall, 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: because it's not just we're going to take a receiver 112 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: next year with our first pick. I mean, we got 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of debate whether we made the right move 114 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: with Layton vander Asher Calvin Ridley here, you know, that 115 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: was always a big debate too. And you look at 116 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: it and Ridley and Amaria are almost the same age. 117 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: But Amari's got a lot of pro experience right now 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: going for him. So we can have have it in 119 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: and out about why it was a good trade or 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: a bad trade, or it was the one too much, 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: or it should have been a two, and what were 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: other teams offering. But for us, we felt like it 123 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: was a good deal, you know, to make that deal 124 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: to make our football team better and in the future. 125 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: The way I've looked at it is we got our 126 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: number one pick now, I mean yeah, because we weren't 127 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: gonna way the way at least the impression I got 128 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: from scouting, and what I read was that kind of 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: talent wasn't going to be available next year certainly, And 130 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: and and the people that liked the trade, that's how 131 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: they look at Yeah, and you know what, and you know, 132 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see the good or the bad of 133 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: this trade down the road. And I think we got, 134 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: you know, beat up a little bit by some trades 135 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: in the past that didn't work out as well as 136 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: we hope they would with receivers and number one picks. 137 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: But it's not fair to judge Amari in this trade 138 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: by by what did or didn't work out with with 139 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: Roy Williams or Joey Galloway things we did in the past. 140 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: And you're you're on the college side, but how much 141 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: how much are you involved in when when it comes 142 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: to getting a player that's currently in the league and 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: it comes to the mixture of kind of the college side, 144 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: which is the draft and the players that are available 145 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: to evaluating the talent on the pro side, is that 146 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: a completely different stuy that's out of my jurisdiction. That's 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: our pro guys that really work through that, and they 148 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: do a great job of study and tape and looking 149 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: at what's available in anything. You know, on a trade 150 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: something like that, I might get a hey, what's the 151 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: receiver class look like coming up in this in this 152 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: current draft? Or how many are there true starting quarterbacks 153 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: coming up in this draft? Or you know, just a 154 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: little bit of look at what we think is coming 155 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: coming down the pipe. And the hard part about that 156 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: is you don't even know who all these juniors that 157 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: are going to be in the draft. I mean, there 158 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: were there were almost a hundred of them that entered 159 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: last year, and we had a good majority of them identified, 160 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: but then there were some late to the party guys 161 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: that you know, make the draft a little stronger too, 162 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: that you you don't know until you get into January. Now, 163 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: the real question is now that we don't have a 164 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: number one at this point, does this make you you 165 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: you have to really really dig down and I know 166 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna still look at potential first rounds because you 167 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: can always move back in your question. But now that second, 168 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: that second pick becomes becomes our first pick. And so 169 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: now does it make you just reset yourself? You know, 170 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: you do you keep down the same road, be the 171 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: same process. I think you really keep down the same 172 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: process because you never know how the draft is going 173 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: to play out. You never know who's gonna We may 174 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: end up with a first round pick somehow, some way again, 175 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: or we may end up with a third round pick, 176 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: or you still have to evaluate the guys and give 177 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: them the same the same work rate, the same load 178 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: as as you would if you had all your picks. Anyway, 179 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're apt to move up and down that board. 180 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: Everybody knows throughout the years how we've done that. We've 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: probably been a little more conservative in the last few 182 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: years compared to some of the horse trading that we 183 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: did in the past. But you still have to be 184 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: prepared for anything. You could wake up and all of 185 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, somebody's calling and offering you the fifth pick 186 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: in the draft, and it looks like it's a pretty 187 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: good deal and you like somebody there, So you've got 188 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: to be ready for that. What's the brought that up? 189 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: Somebody offers you a pick? What's the dynamic on draft 190 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: day when you're you're in the war room and you're 191 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: in there, and I'm sure sometimes you're just kind of 192 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: sitting back and you're waiting and you're watching kind of 193 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: like most people. But then sometimes the phones might heat up. 194 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: What's the dynamic? Like when someone does call and offers 195 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: a pick, do they how does that conversation work? Is it, hey, 196 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: we're thinking about moving or you guys interested? Or is it, hey, 197 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: we're willing to give this up to get this How 198 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: how does that work? It's different with each team that 199 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: you deal with. Some of them are very straightforward with you. 200 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: Some of them will come out fishing to see what 201 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: they might ain't be able to get out of you. 202 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, everybody, you're trying to win the trade. Whenever 203 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: a trade comes up. You know, there's all these different 204 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: point charts, and way back in the day, we originated 205 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: that point chart, and then there became an alternate chart, 206 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: and there was about six or seven different charts that 207 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: go around now. And you know, who really knows who 208 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: wins that. You know, at the end of the day, 209 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: if you get what you want and you feel good 210 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: about it, then you want Yeah, you know, who cares 211 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: if you lost thirty points or they beat you by 212 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: or you know, did you make a good trade that 213 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: you feel good about now to help your team win? Yeah, exactly. 214 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: And we were talking also a little bit before about 215 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: how young this team is. That's got to be I 216 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: mean more pressure than ever now in the way this 217 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: game's running to bring guys up through the draft of 218 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: a thing it is, and that's where you see and 219 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: feel the importance of the salary cap and being able 220 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: to manage your contracts. And when you've got younger guys, 221 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's cheaper labor. Would you say the youngest 222 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: starter is right now for our team? Yeah? It was 223 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: it right now, the youngest starter. It's Cole Beasley. I 224 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: mean not the oldest starter, oh, the oldest. Yeah, I 225 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: don't you know. We don't have a thirty year old 226 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: starter on our team. Sean was the oldest starter, and 227 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: with him being down, we don't have anybody that's over 228 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: thirty other than LP. And I think that's the first 229 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: time in Cowboys history really they've been a starter. I 230 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: don't have to I haven't done that. I think Cole's 231 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: the oldest player. That is insane. Never had no team 232 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: in the history of Cowboys as head. Yeah. They showed 233 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: up a graphic. I caught it whenever I was in 234 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: the photography room. Showed a graphic that the core defensive unit, 235 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: there's one guy that has ever played a game anywhere 236 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: else for us, and that's Antoine Woods and he played 237 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: one game for Tennessee and everybody else has been with 238 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys the rest of their career, which is crazy 239 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: if you think about it. I like to think we're 240 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: doing our job. Yeah, right, Speaking of what's kind of 241 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: the buzz with you guys on on vander ash Because 242 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: obviously there's always when you're kind of in the middle 243 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: of the draft or kind of lower in the first round, 244 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: there's always well, you could have picked this guy, you 245 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: should have picked this guy. How you guys feel about 246 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Vanderess and the way I know the fans are super 247 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: excited about him, and he's just been playing kind of 248 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: out of his mind lately. Yeah, I mean, Leyton's had 249 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: a great run here lately, and especially since he's had 250 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: to step up and play a lot more snaps with 251 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Sean being down, and you know, he's he's very quickly 252 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: become the player that we thought he could that we 253 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: thought he could be, and you know, with an interception 254 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: this week, and did you think he would be there 255 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: this fast? Though? Um, we didn't think we would have 256 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: to have him this fast. I mean, obviously with him 257 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: and Jay, with Seawan and Jalen, we needed some more 258 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: insurance back there. Damien's a great linebacker two. And we 259 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: brought in some free agent stuff that that's helped too 260 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: with Joe Thomas, you know, and he's been out and 261 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: people kind of forget about him. Joe's a pretty good 262 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: ball player too. But the fact that Layton has jumped 263 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: in and played all these snaps and played at a 264 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: high level and we haven't dropped off, and we've got 265 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: him and Jalen running to the ball and making plays. 266 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: There are two leading tacklers. To have Layton as our 267 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: leading tackler on the team right now, and he was 268 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: splitting time the first few weeks of the season. I 269 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: mean that says a lot about him. And and he's 270 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: making big plays for us too. I mean two huge 271 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: plays the other night in the game that you could 272 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: really argue were the catalyst the interception and start the game, 273 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: and then that play he made on that screen pass 274 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the game that got us off 275 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, that was that was a big, 276 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: big play. Yeah, here are you so quiet, Nate, because 277 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: y'all to asking the right questions. Do you know, do 278 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: you know our friend Nate Newton, very familiar. We usually 279 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: have to introduce Kurt on the show, but today we're 280 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to introduce Nate. No, no, no, you're great question. 281 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's coming with everything proper way, And the 282 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: only thing I need to know abody was how they 283 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: was gonna do this process knowing that we may not 284 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: have number one. And so when he answered that right there, mant, 285 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, just y'all asking all the things I think 286 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: the fans would want to know. So hats off too. 287 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: You are you as excited for the draft now that 288 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: we don't have a number one? Yeah? I mean you are. 289 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: You're still always excited for it. I mean because you're 290 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: still building your team. Yeah, and you're gonna get good players. 291 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: And you know everybody throws these grades on your draft afterwards, 292 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: but I promise you there's thirty two war rooms. When 293 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: they walk out of there, they all think they made 294 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: their full pride better. Yeah. Right, but somebody's gonna get 295 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: in f and somebody's gonna get a D plus and 296 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: all that nonsense. But you don't know what your draft 297 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: is until a few years down the road. Anyway, what's 298 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: the biggest the biggest change over the years as far 299 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: as draft with all the new technology and the new 300 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, you guys have that big, huge video touch 301 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: screen and that's cool. But as far as like evaluating talent, 302 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: has that changed much? I know technology has and stats 303 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: and all that, but do you guys still kind of 304 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: go through the like you used to back in the 305 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: old days. The bottom line is you're evaluating football players 306 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: playing football, and you trying to let all the the 307 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: the combine numbers and the pro day workouts take you 308 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: too far away from what the guy did in the fall, 309 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: because that at the end of the day, that's his 310 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: real resume that tells you what kind of football player 311 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: he is. And the guts of it is always going 312 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: to be that. It's it's watching game film, it's dissecting 313 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: that and putting that together. We've got all these other 314 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: things that help us dig into what the player is. 315 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: And analytics has obviously become a huge part of pro football, 316 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: pro sports period, and you know, we've we've upped our 317 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: analytics department this past year. We've added a couple of 318 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: people back there, and there's there's more things to look 319 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: at and it's a part of the puzzle. It's not 320 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: the answer. Just like you know, there's all these different 321 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: parts that go into it. Who the player is, who 322 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: the person is, But you got to put all that 323 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: together and then come up with who you feel is 324 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: the best guy to help your football team continue to 325 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: win football games. So what you're saying, the analytics meet 326 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: I content, I appraisal. Then you got something going. You 327 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: feel a little bit better about it. You know, when 328 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: the numbers and the eyeballs match up and you feel like, okay, 329 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: everything's pointing us in this direction, you know, and that's 330 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: when you really feel good about your pick. Put you 331 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: on the spot a little bit. Is there a is 332 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: there a favorite draft story that you have, or a 333 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: favorite post draft story or a war room story that 334 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: you can share with us that's or something that you 335 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: remember on a draft day that was like that was 336 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of unique or funny or pull the curtain back 337 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: a little bit and you may not be able to 338 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: tell anything. Oh, there's there's a lot of there's a 339 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: lot of funny ones that have happened in their own 340 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: years obviously, but you know some some that will never 341 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: come out of the vall that I probably shared before, 342 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, the one of my favorite 343 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: ones about with Jerry was back in the year that 344 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: we took Roy Williams and we seem to cause just 345 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: a boatload of chaos up there in New York at 346 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: the draft when it looked like we passed on the pick. 347 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: But Jerry was actually talking to three different people. I 348 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: say Jerry, but the whole room was working three different people. 349 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: We had. We had the Chiefs in the mix, the 350 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars in the mix, and the Vikings in the mix. 351 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: And the long story short is we ended up getting 352 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: the Vike. Jerry ended up getting the Vikings personnel guy 353 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: to tell them who tell him who they were gonna pick, 354 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: so we knew it wasn't Roy Williams. And Jacksonville was 355 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of hanging in the background. They were kind of 356 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: wasting our time. But we ended up making a deal 357 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: with Kansas City and we got an extra sixth round 358 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: pick out of them, I think because we knew who 359 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: they were going to take two and neither one of 360 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: them were going to take the guy we wanted, which 361 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: was Roy, So we knew we had the deal and 362 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: it was just a matter of getting the most out 363 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: of the deal. And he really manipulated it marvelously, but 364 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: it took it to the last second and people thought 365 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: we passed on the pick. So then I forget which team, 366 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: they tried to run their pick up there, and there 367 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: were two cards in there at the same time, and 368 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: the poor TV commentators had no idea what was going on. 369 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: But we'd actually traded the pick and we ended up 370 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: getting Roy, who you know, we would have taken if 371 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: we stood there with the sixth pick, but we got 372 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 1: him with the eighth pick, and we actually picked up 373 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: some extra draft picks along the way with it, and 374 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: and Jerry worked it magnificently that year. Man, I bet 375 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: that is fun to be in that room and all 376 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: that wheeland he's going on. Oh, I bet that it's crazy. 377 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: It is. There's a it's kind of our game day, 378 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, for personnel, guys and scouts, and you just 379 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of it's fun to watch it unfold and you get, 380 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, disappointed when guys you like go off the board, 381 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: and you kind of watching the guys and then they 382 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: got and then they got to come up with, Oh, 383 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: we got every guy we wanted. We got everybody the board. Okay, 384 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: been in any concerts lately? Uh still and curt I 385 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: did go see Azzy on his last little did you here? 386 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: And it was it was entertaining for an old seven 387 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: to your old guy still throwing buckets of water. I 388 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: cannot believe that guys alive. Yeah, for sure. We were 389 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: debating whether we should see Kisses Final tour. Oh yeah, 390 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: they're rolling through here, aren't they. They're gon be at 391 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: the AEC right. Let me know if y'all go, I 392 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: may be down with. You know, it's never a big 393 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: kiss for him, and it's one of those things I 394 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: feel like maybe I should. You need to go see 395 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: I've seen them twice. I think I'm not a huge fan, 396 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: but of their music it's not that great, but just 397 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: the theatrics is pretty cool. So if you'll go now 398 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: that Gil Branch and the Ring of Honor, does the 399 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: entire scouting department feel like a path has now been 400 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: opened for you in the future. Are we're gonna see 401 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Chris Hall in the Ring of Honor anytime? So you 402 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: don't even think about stuff like that. Man, You're just 403 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: trying to help this team get better. And that is 404 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: a great honor for Gil and much deserved. Uh. You know, 405 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: he's he's done so much for for not just the Cowboys, 406 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: with the game of football and college football and and 407 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: the things people don't even know about what he's done 408 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Is he's had a fabulous career and 409 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: it's great to see him get rewarded with the Ring 410 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: of Honor and have the opportunity hopefully to get a 411 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: gold jacket along the way too, as that comes out 412 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: in the spring. Well, awesome, Chris, thank you so much 413 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: for taking time out. It's always fun. We always say 414 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna have you on more often, but Kurt doesn't 415 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: agree with us, so he only bought you about every 416 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: six months. You know, he has to come in and 417 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: deal with our insanity. I don't want to beat him 418 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: down too much. Trust me, I live in plenty of 419 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: insanity upstairs. Well, we appreciate it. Man. Well, hopefully we'll 420 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: have you on sooner next time. And Troy Aikman had 421 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: some interesting comments today. He did, we'll talk about that 422 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: next don't hang it with the boys. A man's steps 423 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: and doesn't just protect him from life's elements. 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Of course, of course, the 479 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: two staples on the show, Nick Eatman, Brian brought us in, 480 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagno, oh, yeah, this is gonna be man, this 481 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: is gonna be some very opinionated old man, grumpy old man. 482 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna call it the Grumpy Old Men Hour. That's 483 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do tonight. Whoa that's gonna be I'm 484 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: you know what I am so glad. I'm extra glad 485 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: we won now because if we wouldn't have won, who 486 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna be good. So tune in. We'll be 487 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Concrete Cowboy out here at the Star 488 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: or stop buy and see us, come, see us, have 489 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: a beer with us. Check out the grumpy old Man. 490 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: Check out these grumpy old men. So, Kurt, we didn't 491 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: get to talk to you yesterday. What do you think 492 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: about the game? I was very surprised, but very glad, 493 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: very happy about that was nice. It was good to 494 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: see it again once again. We saw what they're capable 495 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: of and now it's let's do it again. What what 496 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: do you think they did? Right? Fed Zeke stuck with it, 497 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: stuck with it, which we've seen him go away from 498 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: him over and over again, and it was nice to 499 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if the line changed there, it left 500 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: guard made a difference, but uh, I mean, Philly obviously 501 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: has a tough line. They got their shots in. But 502 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: to see Zeke do what he did what he did 503 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: through that paint play calling and his the execution man, 504 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: that was great to see. They're showing the replay right 505 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: now as we speak on the NFL Network. So Nate. 506 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: Kurt gave me a stat here. I only get your 507 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: opinion on this Sunday mark the fifth times Zeke's rush 508 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty yards in his career and 509 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: the previous four times he did not crack one hundred 510 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: yards the next time out. Is that just coincidence or 511 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: is that he takes such a beating when you run 512 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: for that many yards that you need to you're still recovering. 513 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what why is that? But 514 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: I know one thing he should be able to do 515 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: this against Atlanta. Atlanta defense isn't that great. They're gonna 516 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: stack the box. But Kurt, I think I think you 517 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: noticed they threw that ball this week. Yeah, he threw 518 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: it with thirty one thirty nine times. Yeah, that's that's 519 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: the one through the ball this week thirty six times. 520 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: And that that is so nice to know that you know, 521 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: everybody's on the spot and they're trying to figure out kidding. 522 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: This quarterback truly be our quarterback and it was just 523 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: nice for him to drop back and throw the ball 524 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: and make some connections. I liked it. I liked that 525 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: part of the game. That was one thing, and looking 526 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: at the numbers for Zeke. I mean he only carried 527 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: the ball nineteen times. I mean that you look at 528 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: those previous games where he had one fifty you know, 529 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: it was twenty eight, twenty three, thirty three, twenty five rushes, 530 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: so you'd hope that I think overall you had twenty 531 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: five touches counting the six catches he had, So he 532 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: maybe didn't take the same punishment this time around, which 533 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: would hopefully lead to um, you know, not wearing out 534 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. If again, if that makes a difference, you 535 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: know what, I don't think they should make a difference. 536 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: I mean not at this point in his career, and 537 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: not especially since he hasn't ain't like he'd been tolking 538 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: the ball thirty times a game. He should be fred 539 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: and ready to go against Atlanta. I mean, Weather's not 540 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a factor's inside us. He hasn't told, told 541 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: he hasn't random ball a whole lot this season. So 542 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: offensive line, uh got some momentum, quarterback got some momentum. 543 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: We should we should uh we should open the floodgates. Man. 544 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be no play that we shouldn't be able 545 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: to call inside of the Atlanta facton's burden is speaking 546 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: of play calling. They played a clip and I don't 547 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: remember which radio station it was on, it was on 548 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: one here in the Dallas area this morning when I 549 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: was driving into work, and they the Eagles. If you 550 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: think this is the only team that the fan base 551 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: questions the play calling in the media, you're wrong, because 552 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: they were asking Carson Wentz after the game in the 553 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: locker room the same questions that they have here locally, 554 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: and one of the reporters asked, him, hey, does it 555 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: it's something roundabout way of does it you do? Do 556 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: you think there's you know, a reason why, you know? 557 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: It seemed like they knew what plays you were calling 558 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: before the plays were called, and blah blah blah, and 559 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: he was like, is that a question? And then he 560 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: came back with a follow up, like, you know, basically 561 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: the play calling is very predictable, and he said, yeah, 562 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: that's a good observation, and that was basically it was 563 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: so there, Yeah, well they're basically asking them the same thing. 564 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: You do this on first down, you do this on 565 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: second down. It's very predictable. So apparently we're not the 566 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: only team that's fan base questions the offensive play calling 567 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: after a loss. You know, everything's great. You can have 568 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: the same game plan and win a game and going 569 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: to the same thing and lose a game, and you 570 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: know there's an issue after a loss super Bowl, honeymoon's over. 571 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: And that's why. Yeah, and that's why I don't That's 572 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: why I don't ride to create creativity train. You know, 573 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: because did you feel like they opened it up more 574 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: in that game? Yeah? Because one, because of two, because 575 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: of three, people played better. And you know, the offensive 576 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: line as a whole, I think played a little bit better. 577 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: I knew our quarterback through the ball much better. And 578 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper made them play. Honest, MARII Cooper makes you 579 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: when when when when mister hearns have to can uh 580 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: can see a second or third or fourth corner? When 581 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: when when Cole can have that same ability to see 582 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: that second or third corner, they're better than second or 583 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: third corner. So they go, they route a crisper and better. 584 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: Now dak is seeing what it's all about to have 585 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: a clear field. When when most times four cheeses dropped 586 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: back in his own. If if that man come in 587 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: his own, they take it. You know, already played straight 588 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: up man and blitz us bring two or three extra 589 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: men because they like, we'll beat the router. So now 590 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: you got a Mary standing out there and they ain't 591 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: happening that way. One thing I don't think nobody noticed 592 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: is this, Oh, man, look how Christmas Rose is. But 593 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: you say, would you ever say, man, look how fast 594 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: is Rosse? I was gonna say he wants him and 595 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: Dad get that timing that that one he one he 596 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: was wide open on and then the other one whenever 597 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: he missed him in the corner of the end zone. 598 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: He had probably what three steps on that guy. And 599 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: if Dad would have just put it backed it off 600 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. So if they get that timing going, Man, 601 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: I think he showed you this game like what he's 602 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: capable of doing, and you keep what he brings and 603 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: he it sounds like talking to some of the guys, 604 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: he makes this offense better because these guys step up. 605 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: These guys are like, Okay, this guy's due, this guy's 606 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: doing this over there on that side. I gotta do 607 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: what I gotta do to get my job done. And 608 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: like you said, it keeps the defense at bay. Yeah, 609 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: because this is this is a guy that can take 610 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: it to the house. Him and Zeke. Maybe you're only 611 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: two guys that that can actually break a game open 612 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: by themselves in this league, Man Steven's. The coordinators would 613 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: take liberty with you if you don't make them act right. 614 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: She's like a little small child. They would take liberties 615 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: and see you spanked that behind and when you spank 616 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: that But well, I know I ain't supped to say that. 617 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Well y'all put him in the corner and 618 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: having the timeouts. I'm sorry. In myles, you get whoop? 619 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: Did you get but whippons when you was a kid? Yeah? 620 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: I did. It wasn't regular thing, but it did happen. 621 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, I just wondering. I was impressed. What 622 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: kind of impressed me about that game too? Was Presscott? 623 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean he was bad to start out with. I 624 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: mean he missed some throws, he took some sacks. At 625 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: the first half, he got sacked three times, and we've 626 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: seen him when that happens. You know, this line was 627 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: a mask that he just he can't recover, and he 628 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: recovered in this game. He came back. He drove him 629 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter. He was outstanding, I thought, and let 630 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: a couple of drives I mean, I just laugh, man, 631 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: because it's all about trust me, like trust. Yeah, he 632 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: trusts his offensive line, he trusts his receivers. Now we 633 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: get to see you know now he let it go 634 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: and don't panic it's bad. Before he was letting it go, 635 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: like huh is he gonna be there? And and you know, 636 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: and it makes people mad, it makes people upset, but 637 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: everybody ate the same talent level, you know, Like I 638 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: thought I was a big hot dog offensive lima. Then 639 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: he him hate him, Mary Wave hate him that. Rather 640 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: you'd be like, wow, don't don't get mad, get better. Yeah, 641 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: don't get upset, get better. You know it's called it's 642 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: called friends and fire baby within your own camp. We 643 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: need that on the wall around here. What's that don't 644 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: get mad, get better? We're going to lunch for him tomorrow. 645 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: That's on the TVs and there. Yeah you and fish 646 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: killer them put it up, killer Kurt, Yes, Sir. Troy 647 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: Egman had some words today on a local radio station. 648 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't know which one, but yeah, he was on 649 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: one of the low sports talk shows and he said, well, 650 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: there was the exact quote here right now. If I 651 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: had to pick someone, I'd pick Dallas to win the 652 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: NFC East, which kind of shocked some people because last 653 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: week he was talking about the organization was kind of 654 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: needing some help. But his view, and I wanted to 655 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: get your opinion on it, was, you know, it all 656 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: depends on these next three games. You got to win 657 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: these next three games. If you go into the Saints 658 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: game at six and four, even if you've dropped that one, 659 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: your last three games are against pretty easy opponents, and 660 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: so they've kind of they've got themselves back in the race, 661 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: I think in some ways. So you're at the Falcons, yeah, 662 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: which they just got thumped by the Browns, got the 663 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Redskins at home, who are banged up. Saints at home, 664 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: that's the one you got. You got to be I 665 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: think you got to win these next two Eagles at home, 666 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: which you've proven you can beat them at home, at 667 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: the Colts in the last three or Bucks Bucks at home, 668 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: and then Giants found themselves. I think so Cold is 669 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: a better team. I ain't never counting out that quarterback. 670 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: I ain't never counting him out. Look, I've seen him 671 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: be down by twenty points going into the fourth quarter 672 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: and y'all a sudden they win. So you got to 673 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: you got to punch them out. Do you think the 674 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: playoff hopes right on these next two games? I think 675 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: having a good season ride on the next two games. 676 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: You know, you know, Yeah, it's just hard for me 677 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: to discount Washington. They are doing it. They are doing 678 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: it how we thought we would be doing it, being gritty, tough, 679 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: tough and determined. They are doing it. Like yeah, but 680 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: you know what, they banged up on the offensive line 681 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: and they got and they got a great offensive line coach. 682 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: He will find a way to get them guys through 683 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: that game. Have you had a chance to watch Washington's 684 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: offensive line with the backups in just a little bit, 685 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: not much. I didn't watch a lot of that game 686 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: because I was like, these dudes are gonna miss run him. 687 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: In our perspective, we hope that they don't play well 688 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: with those guys, but I guess we'll see. Well, they 689 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: only put what sixteen points up this week? Yeah, and 690 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: they gave up four hundred and five hundred yards offense, 691 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: so they just couldn't score score, So I don't what counts. Yeah, right, 692 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: I just like where they're at now. Maybe I'm writing this, 693 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm on this love roller coaster, as you called it yesterday. Yeah. Um, 694 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: feeling good right now, and I think these next two 695 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: games are very winnable. And then you just you can 696 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: deal with the Saints and then you you know, if 697 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: four games you're thinking, I will feel a lot better 698 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: about it Sunday. If you're able to win two games 699 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: in a row and you went them both on the road. 700 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew yesterday the way you were talking 701 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: that you was not all in on the Dallas Cowboys. 702 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: I could tell you haven't canceled his Mexico tral. Man, 703 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm not all in. I will be. We're not taking 704 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: calls to day because you just affected the whole man 705 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: read another thing. Man, I'm not all in. You know 706 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: why I'm not all in? But why not all in? 707 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: All yet? Let me let me tell you why you 708 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: lost at the Panthers, Right, Okay? You won. You won 709 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: against the Giants at home. You lost against the Seahawks 710 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: in Seattle. You won against Detroit at home. You lost 711 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: against the Texans in Houston. You won at home against Jacksonville. 712 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: Did you lost on the road against the Redskins? You 713 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: won at home against the Titans. We did? We lost? 714 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: You won on the road against the Eagles. So guess 715 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: what this means. You're gonna lose on the road against 716 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: the fives because you hadn't put two wins together. Every 717 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: TIS team wins, it looks like what we think it 718 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: should look like, but then it doesn't for two or 719 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: three weeks. Right, So went on the road in Atlanta, 720 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: and then I feel a lot better. I like it. 721 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: I think they I'm hoping that they've turned the corner 722 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: because of Marie Cooper. And I hate to say it, 723 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: but maybe you've got an experience left guard in there 724 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: that I don't know how big a difference. I wouldn't 725 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: love nothing better than at the end of this season 726 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: to be like, you know what Jerry told us. So 727 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: they went out and got a Marie Cooper. They told 728 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: you your that's your quarterback, They told you that that's 729 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: their coach. They told you so. And we going to 730 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: run and we win two or three or four playoff 731 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: games and I don't get to go to Mexico. I 732 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: hope that happens. But start this week. You already started 733 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: last week. Keep it going. Let's go to Atlanta and 734 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: beat them dirty birds. Who you calling Nate's calling somebody, Derek, 735 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: you can you move me back on the show with 736 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: Mickey And that's fine, there's a call. That's fine. You'll 737 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: be on the show with Micky tonight and you tell 738 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: him telling you will put brought us over here. Man, 739 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: when y'all have a expert analogy, what how not to win? 740 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: How can you feel good about them going to Atlanta 741 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: where they haven't won back to back games yet and 742 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: they haven't been good on the road. Okay, let me 743 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: actually right here? Is Atlanta six? Has Atlanta won seven games? 744 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: They're four and five? Has Atlanta won six games? Has 745 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta won four games? Yes? High Atlanta is four and five? Right? 746 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: And what is the Cowboys? So I think this game 747 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: is winnable? I think I didn't say it's not winnable. 748 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: I said, show me, let's go win it. Let's go 749 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: win it. And I will come in here on Monday 750 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: and I will be like, I feel good about this 751 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: team unless it's ugly and we win it ten to six, 752 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: then I'll have a bust. I'll tell you win See 753 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: all of that, man, You see that dog? You see 754 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: that dog? I do, and I'm gonna take this opportunity. 755 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone since I can't whish for 756 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: in Shannon Yer right now, okay, take it to the phones. 757 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: We've got this guy. I don't want to leave him 758 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: on hold forever, but it is he better come correct. 759 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: He come like Shannon, he gonna get cut off. Shitty 760 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: Who this James, James, you better come correct, Bro, I 761 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: always come correct. N about Okay, I was shouting, I'm 762 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: not an they got to win this game because they ain't. Dug. No, no, no, no, Bro, 763 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: dug cutting this cat off right now. No, I'm not 764 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: gonna let him talk. You gotta show. I'm not gonna 765 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: let him what you got to say. I was just 766 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: gonna say this. My thoughts on the game on Sunday 767 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: with this um one is I don't want to hear 768 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: anybody poo pooing first round picks and saying, oh late 769 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: in the first round when you got a guy like 770 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: vanderst that guy is a monster. To me, that's the 771 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: next great player we have my team. And then I 772 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: was really super impressed by that guy, you know, I mean, 773 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: we finally got a guy that can you know, replace 774 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: Shawan Lee because we didn't have him on this team. 775 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what that would have looked like, 776 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: probably would have lost a bunch of these games already. 777 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: As far as their game plan, you know, you guys 778 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: are talking a little bit about before it was obvious 779 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: if you guys follow the game, they back through the 780 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: ball thirty five times, okay, so take out a few 781 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: sacks about thirty two passes around there, fifteen to them 782 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: or play action. That's why they win. Okay, when they 783 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: play action. Past in seven of them either went for 784 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: first downs or touchdowns. Okay. That's how this team has 785 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: got a play offense, okay, because they will play action 786 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: on first down and we're getting chunks, okay. And it 787 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: set them up even if they weren't chunk plays like 788 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: second in three, second and two, you know those kind 789 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: of third and three. That's all bread and butter, you know, 790 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 1: And that to me was one of the biggest takes 791 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: that took on the said. I thought the coaching said 792 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: did a really good job of prepping, you know, for 793 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: this game, and really played an aggressive game plan. You know, 794 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: I felt like going forward, even though there was a 795 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: penalty on the plant, I like that. You know, they played, 796 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: they played desperate, and that's the way they had to 797 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: play in Atlanta if they want to win this game 798 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: coming up. I agree with everything you said. It's a 799 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: desperate desperate ain't gonna desperate only works one or two 800 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: times a year. Desperate one or two times. You gotta 801 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: be See this is this is what you gotta make 802 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: a decision on. Either you think the Cowboys are good 803 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: enough because they have a team that is good enough, 804 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: or they don't. It ain't gonna cut desperate. You can't 805 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: you get desperate one or two times a year, and 806 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: and and then it becomes what are you good enough 807 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: physically and mentally to win games? Well? Man, can I 808 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: answer a question? Huh? Two the two games back of 809 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: the Redskins right now? Yes? Okay, if if let's if 810 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: they beat Atlanta, even if even if even if the 811 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: Redskins win, okay, we'll on be one back with a 812 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: win on Thanksgiving they lose, Okay, even if they don't 813 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: lose this, even if the Redskins lose against the Texas, 814 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: there's still two games back, and then you've got the 815 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: teams coming up. It has to be desperate in that 816 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: game because you've got to rather. I understand, I understand 817 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: the word. I understand the word sound good. But if 818 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: you ain't good enough physically and mentally, desperate won't get you. 819 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: That all desperately get you is traffic running out of 820 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: a house burning on fire. That's all we get you. 821 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: How can you trust this team? I mean, I'm replied, no, no, no, 822 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: you you you trusted emotions? Do you think they're good 823 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: enough physically and mentally to win? And if you do 824 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: it there physically, go ahead on. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 825 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I want to, but I'm saying, yes, they 826 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: are physical because Atlanta upfront can't handle us if we're 827 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: on our game. Okay, they're have a ton of injuries, right, Okay, 828 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: And I think defensively, you know, listen, who is gonna 829 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: make some plays? You know, Calval really is probably gonna 830 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: make some plays. But I think our defense can make 831 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: enough place where we can keep them within twenty four 832 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: or less. Okay, but we have to run the ball 833 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: and do our things and continue to do the things 834 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: that are successful. But my thing, though, the coaching staff 835 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: has to go win there saying we cannot lose this 836 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: game in Atlantic if they yeah, yeah, okay, well, okay, 837 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: I unders understand that. I understand that I understand that, 838 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: you know, thank you for calling. Thank you. But see 839 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: one thing that you know, when I dealt with coach 840 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: Landry and I dealt with Coach Johnson, and you know 841 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: when you say desperate, this is what I look at. Okay, 842 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: I look at Kansas City and I may look at 843 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: um see uh stellers now stillers don't maybe lost too, 844 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: and they desperate. I can't. Well, when you look at 845 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: the stealers, do you question them offensively? You know they 846 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: have the skill set and the ability, so they they 847 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: they they desperation is different than our desperation because if 848 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: we got Kansas City and we've done lost too, and 849 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: we're looking at Kansas City, you be as desperate as 850 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: you want to be. All can't send you that has 851 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 1: come out of play, play a non penalized game. We whooped. 852 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 1: So when you when you go to Holling, its desperate. 853 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: That that all that sounds good because it's it's nothing 854 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: but words. But can you physically knock me down and 855 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: repeatedly knock me down? And can I repeatedly get up? 856 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: And and that that is what I'm talking about. That 857 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 1: that you know, you know, brought us to him. Desperate 858 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: brought us. Come when you know better, you can be 859 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: as desperate. You can't be desperate fifteen times a year. 860 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Let me go through the Redskins schedule with 861 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: you guys. Tell me, tell me who he thinks winning 862 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: this game. Houston at Washington. H Come on, Kurt, you're 863 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: the best at this. I'm taking Houston. Not he getting scared. 864 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: Now he gets scared. We're putting pressure on Kurtie. He 865 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 1: gets he ain't desperate, think harder. Redskins at the Cowboys 866 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: lost them. That's what I'm taking, all right, Redskins at 867 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles loss. So you got Philly, Okay, you got 868 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: the Giants at the Redskins, Redskins, Okay, you got the 869 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: Redskins at the Jags at the Jags, I guess, Redskins, 870 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: I guess. Okay, I learned that already. Redskins at the Titans, 871 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: and then Eagles at the Redskins Eagles. So you got 872 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: Philly beating them twice. So you got Washington beat winning 873 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: two two of their next seven. Yeah, So that they're 874 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: banged up, I don't I think a little bit of 875 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 1: they're they're doing something right. Obviously they've won six games. 876 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: But I just I think it's gonna catch up with them. 877 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: So the Cowboys just need to win three of their 878 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: next seven to be you know what you're saying. Truly 879 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: believe that nine to seven is gonna win this division? Yeah, 880 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: I think it could. I mean way it's going right now. 881 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: But I think the Cowboys have to win these next 882 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: two games. I think they if they don't beat Atlanta, 883 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: and they don't be obviously Washington not according to what 884 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: you just said, because you said Washington's only gonna win 885 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: two two of their next seven. Yeah, but so the 886 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys just gotta win three. For the Cowboys to get 887 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: on a roll and to gain confidence going into back 888 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: to back Saints and Eagles, they have to win these 889 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: next two. So you think they gotta win the next two. Yes, 890 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: if they have any hopes of the playoffs, they have 891 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: to win the next two. I think you gotta win 892 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: one of the next two. No, you don't think they 893 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: gotta win them both. You gotta win them both, Yep, 894 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: you gotta wind. They gotta win. See, they have to 895 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: beat the Red you gotta be the rest games, I 896 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: think you could lose to Atlanta still, Okay, I mean, 897 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: see I understand this, right, here, take Amari Cooper away. 898 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: Do you think the cowboysn't good enough to win? Well? 899 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: What we had before and the as to me was no. Right, 900 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: you go out and you get a player that changes 901 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: the whole dynamic of your team. Now you you go 902 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: from being good or now you go from being desperate 903 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: because you are not good enough to being we can 904 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: play with these guys. And when you think you can 905 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: play with these guys, now we can beat these guys. 906 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: And it's a different it's a difference if you'd have 907 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: told me going into what we had before Amari got 908 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: here two weeks ago. We're going into Atlanta and we're 909 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: gonna have to score twenty seven or more points. Did 910 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: you see it? Did you believe it? Now you got 911 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. Now Dak is throwing the ball better for 912 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: two weeks, he's been throwing the ball just a little 913 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: bit better. Now he's starting to believe in trust. Now 914 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: you can go in the Atlanta and have a chance 915 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: to win the game. Whether we win it or not, 916 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know what, it's a it's 917 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: a game worth watching. Yeah, I think you can play, Kurt. 918 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: I think you gotta play good. If you lose. I 919 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: think you gotta score. You gotta put twenty seven or 920 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: more points up. I think you can still lose as 921 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: long as you get this offense on track and keep 922 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: it going and the play calling feeds off what it 923 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: did last weekend. I think you can and then you 924 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: can be I'd rather win, but I'm telling you, I 925 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: think they can lose that game if they If they 926 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 1: if they keep the offensive momentum going, well you gotta figure. 927 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we're kind of counting out the Redskins. 928 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: We gotta do a Philly now still too. I mean, 929 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: I just think if they don't win these two, we 930 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: got Philly at home. I'm okay with that, but we 931 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: have to play them again. We have to play the Saints. 932 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: The Saints. I think everybody's kind of like, well, we 933 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: just mark that as a loss. Of what I'm saying. No, 934 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: I wouldn't if you don't have the Saints coming us, right, 935 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: yeah they're here. No, I wouldn't. Let's see how they 936 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: play against Atlanta, And to me, no, sound like Shannon, 937 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: Let's see how the No. No, what I'm saying is 938 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about New Orleans, right, I say, before we 939 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: even worry about New Orleans. Let's see what Let's see 940 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: what happened against Atlanta. And what I mean by that 941 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: is if they win, but if they win twenty four, 942 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: twenty one, if they win twenty one to seventeen, as 943 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: long as they win, this team will have another week 944 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: with the Marii Cooper, with Cole Beasley, with the officive line, 945 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: and we'll have a we'll have a known backup now, 946 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's the draft pick or whether it's 947 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: the new kids, Lufa whatever his name. So we we 948 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: all of these things are building up now to be 949 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: to make us a better team. I'm not I'm talking 950 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: about us being a better team, not us saying oh man, wow, 951 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: you know it's not it's not that anymore. It's you. 952 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: When you can see tangible evidence that you that you 953 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: are a better team, does that not equate to uh 954 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: uh confidence? You don't see us that Quit looking at 955 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: us as the team four weeks ago. I know it 956 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: was an ugly loss against Tennessee, but don't look at 957 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: us as that team four weeks ago. Look at us 958 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: as of what we did. It's a new dynamic, Yeah, 959 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: it's a totally new dynamic special offense all this confidence, 960 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: all this building a new team, all of this I 961 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: agree totally, but it all goes to waste if we 962 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: don't we need the next two games as far as 963 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: making the play and I disagree. I think as long 964 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: as you as far as making the playoffs, yes, they'll 965 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: become a better team. Right, I think I think you 966 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: can still make it. I think you still make it. 967 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. We got somebody on 968 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: the phones. When we come back, we'll get to the 969 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: phones and we'll talk about I don't think we have 970 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: enough sign for a break. We didn't start till one. 971 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: One thing. We have a show coming on after us, 972 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: so let's oh, yeah the call, let's just we'll have 973 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: to wrap it. Let's just leave. They go on one thirty. Well, 974 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: if these guys, if the next if the caller come 975 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: on with your attitude, you're right, let's just leave you. 976 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: I ain't right up on them. But if they come 977 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 1: on with my attitude, and let's let's see what person 978 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: who we got? Ye in Kansas City? Who are you with? 979 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: Jay's Jay and West Virginia? Oh my god, So it 980 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: don't matter. Now we have to honor the call because 981 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: of because you messed up dub anyway. Anyway, Kurt, glad 982 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: to see you back, buddy. Thanks if my mom watching 983 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: your ass show now and she put Kurt onto her 984 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: prayer chain, so you should be finding good buddy. Anyway. 985 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: What do you think about seal feel of that? I'll 986 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: tell you what I think. A little extra girth on 987 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: that side made a big difference in a run game, 988 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: which made everybody else confident. That's one thing. Shannon picked 989 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: your chin up. We're gonna go in there and whip 990 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: some butt when we go to Atlanta. Let's go chin 991 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: ups and you look good. If you look good, you 992 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: feel good. You look good. And Nate said this, and 993 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: it's true. Just you might be a little overmatched here 994 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: and there in some games, but if you're willing to 995 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 1: go in there and punch that guy in the mouth 996 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: every time you're on the line, you got a fighting 997 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: chance no matter where we're going. And we're going to 998 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta and we're gonna whip their butt and we're gonna 999 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: move on down the road. Let's do it. What do 1000 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: you think about that? Now? What do you think about 1001 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 1: traveling Jones on? Jones as a king? Who's that saying? Yeahs? Again, 1002 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: Sir Julio Jones, Oh ain't it ain't not traveling dog, 1003 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: just double t him. It's called double T pack axtra bags. 1004 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Jay, appreciate it. Man. I'll tell 1005 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: you what I think. If you still had the rookie 1006 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: and he was healthy, I think you still should play 1007 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: him at guard. But I think this may be a 1008 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: blessing in disguise to help this offensive line get back 1009 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: on track. Like that's kind of a contradiction, but I 1010 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: think this big did not make it did not make 1011 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 1: no sense. If if this kid that they got it 1012 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: in there now, I can't pronounce his name if he 1013 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 1: is the better guard right now playing him because it ain't. See, 1014 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: but you're always the one when the young guys play, 1015 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: I do if they're better, If they are better, they 1016 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: just far away and play the young guy. But see, 1017 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do is set it up so 1018 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: they they didn't won't win against New Orleans, so you 1019 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: can still have that No, no, no, that's blasphemy. Yeah yeah, okay, 1020 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: stop thinking that way. Blast. I'm reading you, shann I'm 1021 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: beginning to know what do you think? Do you think? 1022 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: Do you think they're do you like, how do you 1023 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: feel about steel Feeler? Oh, I'm liking what he does, 1024 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: but I want to see it another game. I want 1025 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: to see it another game, and we're gonna get to 1026 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: see it another game. How long is Williams out? If 1027 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 1: we heard it, don't matter long as that kid playing good. 1028 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: He could be out the rest of the year if 1029 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: that kid is fair, and he probably would be. Yeah, yeah, okay, gentlemen, 1030 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 1: and our boys back at tight endway. Yes, saw him today. 1031 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: He said he feels better today than he did before 1032 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 1: the game. Yes, sir, so he'll be back in act. 1033 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: There you go, let's go. You banned from the show. 1034 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 1: It's after the New Orleans game. You are banned, all right, 1035 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: have my lunch hour about to kid him be a 1036 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: school starting fight. Thanks for Britain showing up. Nate, thanks 1037 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: for bringing it, Douglas, thanks for keeping us on the air. Kent, 1038 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: thanks for doing what you do. We will be back tomorrow. 1039 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: Chris Hall, thank you so much for showing up. We 1040 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it every time you're on the air with us. 1041 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: Such great stuff. We will be back tomorrow tonight. Happy 1042 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: Hour six to seven. Concrete Cowboy. That's it for hanging 1043 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: with The Boys Back has been a production of Dallas 1044 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.