1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: A production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: Our colleague Noel is on an international adventure, a man 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: of mystery, but he will be returning shortly. 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer, 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagot. Most importantly, you are you. 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: You are here. That makes this the stuff they don't 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: want you to know. No, no, no, I'm doing live 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: echoes here, Matt. It's our listener mail program. If you 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: are tuning in the evening it public, then let us 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: welcome you to Oh my gosh, October second, Matt, that's 15 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: true October second. 16 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: Well, it will be when your ears can hear that 17 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 3: it's October second. 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: But when it's publishing. We're recording on the twenty ninth 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: of September. 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: Our faces are still in September. 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Yes, our faces are still in September. But what is time? 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: What happens after humans? That's an episode we cannot wait 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: to explore together. 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: Well, we're going to explore it no matter what you 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: know when we live it, but you know it'll be 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: fan to talk about it. 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: But will humans be will humans be living it? If 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: it's after humans? 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: Well we're going to live the part where right up 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: until you know. 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: Everybody the world is ending for someone every day, right 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: and it's continuing. It reminds me of that wh Auden 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: poem about the old Masters. 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've got like ten years max left, so 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: sorry everybody. Yep, Nah, yep. 36 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of man Kevin. I think I think 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: something will soldier on, but I have always been accused 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: of optimism. We're going to hear some pretty cool stuff. 39 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: I think we're excited, Matt. Why don't we flip it 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: a little bit? Do you want to do? You want 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: to have us pause for a word from our sponsors 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: and then maybe get to a voicemail. 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: Ah, that would be wonderful. And we've returned and this 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: is just a quick check with our Tennessee pal. Are 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: there any Ruda begas on the menu today? 46 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: Spring has come to Scotland and that means one thing VanNess. 47 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: He's a swimming through the waters of luckness with the babies. 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: These crypted. Mothers are trying to feed the hungry new Bole, 49 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 4: and that means getting closer to the shoreline. Although Messi's 50 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: are aquatic animals, they're also herbivores and spend much of 51 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: their time searching for suitable food on the nearby land, 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: using their long next to survey the ground from the water. 53 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: It looks like this mother has found something worth investigating. 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: She pools and chews, and yes, Messi has found sustenance 55 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: for her young She has stuck up a route. 56 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: Baker, love it. Oh, thank you Werner Herzog. 57 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: How is that music so perfect for that thing? 58 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: Like Dylan is a phenomenal musician. Uh, Dylan personally knows 59 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: Donnie Laboy. 60 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: Okay, that's it. That's beautiful. 61 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, thank you so much, Dylan. 62 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: Well, let's stay on the rude Bega train for a 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: moment and hear a message from Proud. We've heard from 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: Proud before. He told us some family stories about the 65 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: awesome things his family is up to, and we gave 66 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: him shout out. How Proud is calling back with some 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: more adventures. 68 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 5: Hello, gentlemen, I've contacted you before under the name Proud. 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: I spent a long weekend in your fair state. Only 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: I was in Savannah and it's beautiful. We went to 71 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 5: a ray Face museum. This a true crime museum. And 72 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 5: we also went to Missus Wilkes's Banning Room, which is 73 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 5: a restaurant and we waited outside for over an hour 74 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: to get in and there's no menu. They just serve 75 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: your food and the food was amazing. 76 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 6: Gar We go over there and one of the dishes 77 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 6: that I was served that I'd never had before was 78 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 6: fru debate is never had a rootbab before. Did not 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 6: recognize the dish. I had to pull server aside and 80 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 6: mask her what it was. And it was delicious. I 81 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 6: don't know how they cooked it. I imagined this well 82 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: this is but it was amazing and they made me think. 83 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: You guys so. 84 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 5: Uh yeah a long time listen and uh keep up 85 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: his work. Love you guys. 86 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: Bye Ah, Proud hanging out in Savannah. Ben, you've spent 87 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: some time in Savannah. Have you ever visited the Wilkes House? 88 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: You or Dylan? 89 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm aware of it for sure, but I haven't been there. Proud, 90 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for reaching out. Savannah is a 91 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: fascinating town, so pass it to you, Dylan, have you 92 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: visited this Wilkes place. 93 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 7: I haven't, but I have been the grave Face Museum. 94 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 7: One of my best friends used to work there. Shout 95 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 7: out Ian, and the owner's name is Ryan Graveface. 96 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: What shout out to Ryan, Ryan? 97 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 7: That's the owner's name, Ryan Graveface. 98 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Holy Mackerel. Okay, So uh well, let's maybe let's 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: start there. Then Dylan tell us about that place, because 100 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: I've never been there. I don't even know what it is. 101 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 7: It's it's like an oddities museum. So great Face is 102 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 7: also a record label, and they've they've reprinted like the 103 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 7: Unsolved Mystery soundtrack and stuff like that. They do a 104 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 7: lot of spooky stuff, but their owner also has a 105 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 7: lot of John Wayne Gacy's paintings. 106 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, crazy stuff. 107 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've seen I've seen this. I did not 108 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: know the proprietor's name, but I've I've encountered that museum 109 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: as well. Folks, we are huge fans of very specific 110 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: museums as well as reference works, and do check out Proud. 111 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: I think if you haven't heard it yet, I think 112 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: you will maybe enjoys not the right word, but I 113 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: think you will be fascinated with our earlier episode on 114 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: the Dilemmas of serial killer memorabilia. That was a that 115 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: was a dark one, but an important one. 116 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird to have that kind of collection, but 117 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: I suppose people would want to go in and check 118 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: it out. I think curiosity might catch me if I 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: walked past it and found out it was in there, 120 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: which I'm not particularly proud about. Maybe, but that's okay, 121 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: that's okay. I would be interested for sure. In the 122 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: Wilkes House, guys, this was a boarding house in historic 123 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: downtown Savannah that got converted into a family style dining 124 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: situation where you basically wait for a table for a 125 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: long time at least Corny Proud and everything else that 126 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm seeing online. Then you go inside and you get 127 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: served whatever they're. 128 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: Cooking, right. Yeah, it's like going to a fancy sushi 129 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: restaurant in that you don't get a menu. You get 130 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: what they decide to give you, right. Oh, then you 131 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: get a bill at the end. And that's that's an 132 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: interesting approach. And I remember hearing about it from some 133 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: friends who went to Savannah College of Art and Design 134 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: or SCAD as we call it in this part of 135 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: the world, and it's a local legend, and honestly, Proud, 136 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: you're very fortunate to have been able to get in. 137 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's definitely one of those things if 138 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: you're not on a list somewhere, you're just gonna hang 139 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: for a while. Hopefully they've updated with some kind of 140 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: you know, those new things you can get where you 141 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: get put on a list and then you'll get a 142 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: text like, hey, it's coming up five minutes, so you 143 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: can at least walk away from the restaurant for a 144 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: bit and check out the rest of historic downtown Savannah, 145 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: which we're not sponsored by yet, but knowing that Proud 146 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: got to have his first route to Bega, come on, 147 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: that's the best, even says on their website on their menu, cabbage, 148 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: snap pees, mac and cheese, butter beans, black eyed peas, 149 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: and rude of becas boom, all kinds of good stuff there. Well, 150 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: that was very exciting to hear. We hope you enjoy 151 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: the rest of your time in Savannah and anybody else 152 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: who wants to hang out in Georgia, that's a great 153 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: place to check out if you're not heading to downtown Atlanta, 154 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: because you know, we've of course got great things here again, 155 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: not sponsored by the city of Atlanta or Savannah. 156 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: Despite ongoing conversations. 157 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are trying. 158 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: Real We are proudly sponsored by several places. They are. 159 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: When we say sponsored in that sense, what we mean 160 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: is they shout us out occasionally, like the local, the 161 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: one of the best. We got in trouble with the 162 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: local because we blew up the spot on the chicken wings. 163 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: As the city continues to grow. But I think one 164 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: thing you need to know about Savannah, fellow travelers, is 165 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: that it is a complex city that carries a great 166 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: deal of historical baggage, some for good and some for ill. 167 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: I remember one quick anecdote about Savannah. I traveled down 168 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: there because I wanted to be closer to the ocean 169 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: while I was doing this writing project. And I was 170 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: doing the thing where this will be familiar to a 171 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: lot of us, where you lock yourself in an unfamiliar 172 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: room and you kind of play submarine. You don't go 173 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: outside until you've done your thing. And when I got there, folks, 174 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: there was a strange energy in the air over on 175 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: River Street, which is like the tourist dragline, and I 176 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: realized that everybody was planning in advance for Saint Patti's 177 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: Day for the weekend where they would celebrate that day, 178 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: which I wasn't familiar with it being a huge thing 179 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 2: in the United States, but people assumed, probably because of 180 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: the way I looked, that I was so into Saint 181 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: Patti's Day, so irish or so Catholic, that I was 182 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: getting there a week ahead. And I remember just the uh, 183 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm being diplomatic here. I remember the boisterous energy that 184 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: drove me to the edge of the ocean to just 185 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: sit there and wait till dawn, because I did not 186 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: want to go back into the city late at night. 187 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: It was two raucous people were partying so hard. So 188 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: look Saint Patty's Day in Savannah is like south By 189 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: Southwest in Austin. Just be careful, keep your wits about you. 190 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: That's right. While you're headed over to Poe's Tavern, which 191 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: is an Edgar Allen Poe themed tavern, which come on, 192 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: you got you gotta visit that, yeah, of course. And 193 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: also the Pirate's House that's an old standby, it's a 194 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: pirate's house, it's historic. Why not enjoy. 195 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, see if you can find the nuclear bomb still 196 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: languishing off the coast. 197 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: It's over there somewhere, just hanging out down there under 198 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: the waves. Yikes. All right, well, with that, we'll be 199 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: right back after word from our sponsors with more messages 200 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: from you. 201 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: And we have returned. This is a great one. 202 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 6: You know. 203 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: We go through our social media correspondence, our voicemails, We 204 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: go through our emails and these things inspire episodes in 205 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: the future, which is why our listener mail segment is 206 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: so important to us. It's the best part of the show. 207 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: It's you on the air. And with that, we have 208 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: a word from SJ and Matt Dillon. I think you 209 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: guys will find this pretty interesting. It's a response to 210 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: our episode on the Mickelson Safeguard Complex aka a super 211 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: weird Cold war pyramid with its head lopped off. Here 212 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: we go, hey fellas, feel free to use this on 213 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: air if you please. You may refer to me as DELUSIONOT. 214 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: Love it. SJ. You gave us the names DELUSIONOT and 215 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: SJ and Matt. I kind of like Delusionot. 216 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: Delusionot is wonderful because it feels as though you were 217 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: out there swimming in the delusion right in some kind 218 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: of way. You're out there exploring the delusion itself. 219 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: You may refer to me as delusionot. We're doing that 220 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: because in parentheses delusionot, you put insert supervillain chuckle, and 221 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: we hope we made you proud. Out. Do you have 222 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: a good supervillain chuckle? 223 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: I don't know that I do. I could try. Maybe 224 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: I'll try later on randomly and we'll see if it works. 225 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: We've got a we've got a pretty good track record 226 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: on a villainous and chuckle, right, the naughty one. So 227 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: you continued delusion hot and you say, I'm listening to 228 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: our episode on the Mickelson Safeguard Complex. Talk of space 229 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: race and weapons supremacy and nuke's got me thinking. A 230 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: question materialized. What if a nation state created a kind 231 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: of weapon whose use could be as devastating as a 232 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: nuclear explosion eventually, but something that could also be quickly undone. 233 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: The idea would be to gain control of the world's 234 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: access to sunlight. Dylan beep me in the delusionist here, yes, 235 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: super villain me out an editorial note, Matt, I know 236 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna love this because this is something I swear 237 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: we have talked about in the past, but I didn't hunt. 238 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: The episode down delusionart continues. You build a massive disk 239 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: in space between the Sun and Earth. Build the disc 240 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: vertically so when seen from the ground, it would appear 241 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: as a line in the sky if visible at all. 242 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: To deploy one would geosynchronously. You anchor the disc above 243 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: the desired target and turn it sideways. This would cast 244 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: your target into darkness. That ends when you decide to 245 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: turn the Sun back on. While not as immediate as 246 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: a nuke, it would devastate any place on the planet. 247 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: It could also be easily undone once my hour demands 248 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: have been met and there's no radioactive fallout. Also a 249 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: fan of rods from God? Who needs explosive when you've 250 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: got mass and unhinged momentum. Just a weird idea. Cheers. 251 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: Guys called me Sjay. We talked about didn't we talk 252 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: about this? The plan to block the Sun? 253 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 8: Oh? 254 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? The actual government approved and sponsored plans to develop 255 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: a system of blotting out the Sun with cloud formations, 256 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: but high above cloud formations similar to those that would 257 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: be generated in nuclear fallout. So yeah, I guess we 258 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: could do it with clouds or, in this case, a 259 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: massive disc, which I'm kind of about could you use 260 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: that massive disc to slow down warming of certain places 261 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: and areas, maybe stop giant glaciers from melting. 262 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: Sure, that would be cool. This is also interesting to us, 263 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: delusion excellent name, because there has been a lot of 264 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: research over time into concepts like we're describing. You know, 265 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: for a lot of folks, the concept was first encountered 266 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: watching the original Matrix, right, spoilers for that one. There's 267 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: a little bit of talk about sunshine and blocking it. 268 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: We also interesting because you don't actually get the full 269 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 3: story of it unless you go to the Animatrix and 270 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: watch those right, the first couple of short films on that, 271 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: and otherwise they just kind of mentioned it, like, oh 272 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: well they decided to blot out the sky spoilers. 273 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Look, there's a lot of gnosticism and inquiries 274 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: into the nature of reality for this. But what we 275 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: need to establish here, delusionot, is that the concept that 276 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: you're describing is a doctor Doom level version of what 277 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: is called a sunshield or space sun shade in the 278 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: way it was originally proposed by a physicist named Hermann 279 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: Oberth way way back in the day, is a protective measure, 280 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: right similar to what we're referencing with the slowing of 281 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: glacial melts and the slowing of global warming. The space 282 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: sunshade is the idea. It's like a bootleg Dyson sphere 283 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: kind of idea. It's just one facet of a Dyson 284 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: sphere that would go between Earth and the Sun and 285 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: prevent some of that tasty, tasty, same mixtape radiation kind 286 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: of stuff from hitting Earth, messing with the magnetosphere, messing 287 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: with the typical cyclical passage of the seasons. Space mirrors 288 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: under this concept would orbit around the Earth with a 289 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: diameter of one hundred to three hundred kilometer, as proposed 290 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: by this guy Obirth. And in this despite being phrased 291 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: as a protective measure, in this our physicist Hermann clearly 292 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: describes the idea of focusing sunlight on some regions of 293 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: the surface and then deflecting it into space, but also 294 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: having the ability to remove sunlight from certain parts of 295 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: the Earth. 296 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I wonder how much energy you could capture 297 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: with it as well if you could find a way 298 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: to transfer said energy so you could do all the 299 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: things at once. It's a multi tool, yes, space solar 300 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: energy capture and deflection. 301 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's why I don't completely buy the protective 302 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: spin on Obirth's sunshade idea. He's kind of a super 303 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: villain himself, Matt, hmmm, the devil you say he has. 304 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: He's kind of a paper clip guy, or he would 305 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: have been if the timing was just a little bit different. 306 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: You see, he was Austro Hungarian. He was a big 307 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: fan of Nazi Germany, to the point where he got 308 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: the war Merrit Cross in nineteen forty three. His most 309 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: notable student is returning character on the show Werner von Braun. 310 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: Oh, he's a rocket boy. Yeah, well it would make 311 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 3: sense if you you gotta be a rocket person if 312 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: you're imagining sending something that massive or you know, employing 313 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: something that massive in space. Wow hmm. It always reminds 314 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 3: you of the space elevator concept. You remember when Marshall 315 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: Brain would talk about that a lot. 316 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, space elevator. And look, it takes a lot of 317 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: rocketmen to encourage, empower the exploration into the stars science. Obviously, 318 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: technology at least does not possess its own moral compass. 319 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: But this is a fascinating character because he started building 320 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: model rockets when he was fourteen, and this was way 321 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: before it was easy to build them, you know, with 322 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: a kit you would get at a museum gift shoper online. 323 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: All to say, like the space elevator, and I enjoy 324 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: that comparison, the sunshield is possible. The problem with the 325 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 2: sunshield and the problem with the space elevator is that 326 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: it would require human civilization to spend a vast amount 327 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: of time and resources to get something that probably wouldn't 328 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: work all the way. You know, I would you take 329 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: a space elevator? 330 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I think I would. I think I 331 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: would be in a space elevator is a way to 332 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: actually start some kind of capitalist movement where you could 333 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: safely send up tourists and it wouldn't cost that much money. 334 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: Once the space elevator is built on, you know, working 335 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: and you could send up massive equipment that could then 336 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: be launched out to other places you could send you'd 337 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: have a whole other, separate section of the space elevator 338 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: that's just for the the folks who have three hundred 339 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, you know, just lying around so. 340 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: You can go up into space right for a second. Maybe, 341 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: but if there's a hotel at the. 342 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: Top, that's what I'm saying, if you got a space elevator, 343 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: then hang out as much as you want. 344 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: And if you evolve past a capitalistic society, then the 345 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: real bonus points for the space elevator would be removing 346 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: most of the expense of obstacles to escaping Earth's orbit. Right, 347 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: you can solve for the problem of the weight. The 348 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 2: idea of the sunshade, whether it's supervillain or protective, is 349 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: it's a pickle, it's a real bag of badgers. Because 350 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: the question becomes, will civilization decide on such an enormous, 351 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 2: unorthodox investment in a point of time where it is 352 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: still useful or will it be something where everything has 353 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: gone sideways and pear shaped and savannah bananas and now 354 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: you have to try to figure out some sort of 355 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: mediating thing. 356 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the big questions that we've been 357 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: thinking about for the episode we talked about and what 358 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: comes after humans just can can a major primarily capitalism 359 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: driven society world can it end in a happy way? 360 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 9: Like? 361 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: Can you stop that? Can you get past it and 362 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: be like, oh, we don't need to do this anymore? 363 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: Is there any scenario where that actually happens or is 364 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: it only like full collapse or most of humanity ending 365 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: situation before that thing gives. 366 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: Up, right? Yeah? Will it be reactive innovation or will 367 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: it be proactive innovation and interesting? Matt and I have 368 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: not talked about this on area yet, folks. We're very 369 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: excited for this one, as you can tell. One question 370 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 2: that keeps coming to mind. It reminds me of the 371 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: conversation between Ricky Gervais and Stephen Colbert when Ricky was 372 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: asking about textbooks versus religious text going somewhere with this, 373 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: and he said, you know, ultimately, anything that comes after humans, 374 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: if it progress is to a certain threshold of science 375 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: and intelligence, it will write something like a math textbook. Right, 376 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: It'll create some understanding or compendium of the rules of 377 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: reality as encountered by life worms on earth. Will that 378 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: civilization rewrite word for word something is a religious text? 379 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: Will there be some sacro sanct discovery that remains constant? 380 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of the question when we're talking 381 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: about capitalism. Will is capitalism an inevitable economic truth or 382 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: is it more like a religion? My thoughts on this 383 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: are on record, but I think it's a fair question. 384 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, it's a great question. What do you 385 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: think about that? We'll tell you how to write to us, 386 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: to call us and all that good stuff at the 387 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: end of this episode. But that's a big, big, big 388 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: quest question. 389 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it comes into play in our upcoming episode. 390 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: We don't want to tease it too hard because we 391 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: haven't made it yet, but do check out our earlier episode. 392 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: It's something like is economy a religion? And we have 393 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: an open call standing now for anybody who wants to 394 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: prove to us in good faith that that is not 395 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: the case. Please listen to the episode first, because we 396 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: had some great conversations and the question still stands. No 397 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: one has disproved it. What do you think that? Should 398 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: we move on to another voicemail? Do we want to 399 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: get into some nasama stuff? Where where do we want 400 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: to head? 401 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 3: That sounds fun? What is this nasarema stuff? 402 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: All right, folks, peek behind the curtain. Our pal DELUSIONOT 403 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: is different from our pal SJ. We accidentally shared various 404 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: monikers amidst our fellow conspiracy realist. We hope that's okay. 405 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna call you SJ Prime. There we go, our 406 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: that's our fix for this one. Call me SJ all Right, SJ. Prime. 407 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: This story, says SJ Prime, is included in a collection 408 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: titled A Stress Analysis of a Strapless Evening gown Essays 409 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: for a Scientific Age, first published in nineteen sixty three. 410 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: SJ Prime says most of the content is from nineteen 411 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: fifty six to nineteen sixty three, but some are as 412 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: early as nineteen thirty. If you can find a copy 413 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: of this, it's worth adding to your collection. And then 414 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: Sjprime links us to a fantastic PDF which has the 415 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: entire nineteen sixty three edition on it, and SJ Prime says, 416 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 2: this is a collection of odd scientific and engineering humor. 417 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm attaching a copy of the table of contents and 418 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: the publication information. Among my favorites are Lester Delbray's version 419 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: of the twenty third Psalm and Hiawatha's Lipid. Some of 420 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: them are humor through and through, and others are complex 421 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: setups for very bad jokes. So, before we get to 422 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: the next part of this, have any of us heard 423 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: of this book before? 424 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: No, I've never heard of this. 425 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: This one was new to me as well, and it's 426 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: pretty cool if you're into the same kind of nerdy 427 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: stuff that we are. We have a cool returning character 428 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: body ritual among the Nacerema by Horace Miner opens is 429 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: one of the first essays here. We have titles like 430 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: Postal Input, Buffer Device, The Bridge of San Louis Ray, 431 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: Cosmic gall The Abominable Snowman, psychoanalysis of US missile failures, 432 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: a couple that I've never heard of, Saga of a 433 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: new hormone, Pennywisel, Univac to UNIVAK by Louis B. Solomon. 434 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: Maybe we pause here just for anybody who missed that 435 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: previous conversation given to us by os woman Matt, Can 436 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: you explain the Nacerema in a Nutshell? 437 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: In a nutshell, it's a satirical look at the United 438 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: States of America at a particular time in its history. Well, 439 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: I guess it is now an all time in the 440 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: US history about our culture's collective obsession with how we 441 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: look right and our outward appearance. And the language used 442 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: in it is meant to other the United States and 443 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: it's society by using the language that's often used an anthropology, 444 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: where you're speaking about let's say, a newly discovered tribe 445 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: or something in a part of the world, where there 446 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 3: is a newly discovered indigenous people something like that. 447 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: And this also speaks to Dill in your phenomenal Rude 448 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Bega documentary, which hopefully is available on Netflix. Here's one 449 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: thing we'll read from this book, which you should check out, folks. 450 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: It is the twenty third Psalm Modern Versions, Matt, I 451 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: believe that you and our fellow conspiracy realists will enjoy 452 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: this one. The Lord is my external internal integrative mechanism. 453 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: I shall not be deprived of gratification for my viscerogetic 454 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: hungers or my need dispositions. He motivates me to orient 455 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: myself towards non social object with effective significance. He positions 456 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: me in a non decisional situation. He maximizes my adjustment. 457 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: Although I entertain masochistic and self destructive in impulses, I 458 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: will maintain contact with reality for my superegos dominant his 459 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: analysis and tranquilizers. They comfort me. He assists in the 460 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 2: resolution of my internal conflicts despite my oedipal problems and 461 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: psychopathic ebulsions. He promotes my in group identification. My personality 462 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: is totally integrated. Surely, my prestige and status shall be 463 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: enhanced as a direct function of time, and I shall 464 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: remain sociologically, psychologically, and economically secure forever. That's weird. They're 465 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: given doom vibes, you know. 466 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: Oh, there's some serious doom vibes. SJA gave us a 467 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: little screenshot of another one. It says it's labeled here 468 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 3: as part two from Lester del Rey. I also has 469 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: some series doom vibes. More about the bomb and you know, 470 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: nuclear energies. Surely strontium and fallout shall follow me all 471 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: the days of my life, and I will dwell in 472 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: the house of the AEC, but hardly forever. 473 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: This is wild. This is going to be my entire night. Actually, 474 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna end up just reading this book. Thank you 475 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: so much man for recommending this to us. SJ. Prime. 476 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: We love again specific reference works, we love very weird museums. 477 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: We love hearing from you. Before we wrap this part, 478 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: there's something very important that SJ. Prime has asked us. 479 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: It's the following. It's going to take all three of us, gentlemen. 480 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: You ready, all right? 481 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 5: S J. 482 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: Prime. You end by saying, please give me a fact 483 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: about rudabagas and how they relate to badgers. Excellent. 484 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: H oh yeah, plug that into chat GPT real quick geezy. 485 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: Which stands for chat go Badger time. 486 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 6: Right. 487 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, do we get an iron there? Okay, all right, 488 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: So here's the truth. This is the stuff they don't 489 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: want you to know, SJ. Prime. The badger and the 490 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: rutabaga have long been involved in a complex symbiotic relationship. 491 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: At times one is predator, at times one is prey. 492 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 2: Depending upon the season of the year, especially in the 493 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: northern climes, the rutabaga may encounter its cyclical weather driven 494 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: predatory phase, at which point the hunter becomes the hunted. Now, 495 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: it is true that all other times of the year, 496 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: the badger being an omnivorous, diggy type of dude, the 497 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: badger will prey upon the Ruda bega, except, as you know, Matt, 498 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: when the weather turns right, when winter comes and the 499 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: Ruda begas hunker. 500 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: Did you know, guys, in August August twenty first to 501 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: the twenty fourth this past year, there was a Ruda 502 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: Bega festival in Wisconsin. 503 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes I did. We got a voicemail about it. 504 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: We did. We talked about it. 505 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: We didn't talk about it, but yes, we did get 506 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: about it. 507 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know. I did not know that. Well, okay, 508 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: there you go. 509 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 7: All I'm saying is everybody look up the Great Badger 510 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 7: Rudabaga War of eighteen ninety three. It's harrowing. 511 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the thing your textbooks don't want you to know. 512 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: A lot of good Ruda begas died, a lot of 513 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: badgers gave their lives. Dylly, could you tell us a 514 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: little bit more about the war. 515 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 7: Just never enter a land war with the rout of beca. 516 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 7: That's I'm gonna say. 517 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: There we go, there we go. And I shouldn't be laughing. 518 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: It's just a very uncomfortable part of hidden history. 519 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 7: If you don't laugh, you cry. 520 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: If you don't laugh, you cry. Especially after you read that, 521 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: you can see why they pulled it from the textbooks. 522 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: No one in fact check us. We're gonna pause for 523 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors and we'll be back with 524 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: more messages from you. 525 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: And we've returned, and we're jumping back to the phone 526 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: lines to hear a message from one eyed Cyclops warning everybody, 527 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: this one is pretty serious, very interesting, lots to unpack, 528 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: perhaps too much, no, I know for sure, too much 529 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 3: to impact in this episode has to do with what's 530 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: going on in New Paul, and we've I think brought 531 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 3: it up once a little bit mentioned it. Well, we 532 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: haven't really talked about any of it in depth, and 533 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 3: One Eyed Cyclops is very interested, so let's hear what 534 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: they have to say. 535 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 9: Hello to my favorite three Musketeers. If you so too, 536 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 9: you can call me the One Eyed Cyclops and Hi 537 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 9: from Texas. I know you guys know about what's going 538 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 9: on in Nepal because you're too hip not to know, 539 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 9: but I personally believe that it deserves the full episode. 540 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 9: Jim Z not only overthrew the prime minister and burned 541 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 9: the embassy down, but they also voted in a new 542 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 9: prime minister via discord. 543 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 8: You've got to be kidding me. I would love to 544 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 8: hear your thoughts on this, so anyways, I hope I'm 545 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 8: not the only person asking for this, because I really 546 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 8: think that it deserves coverage and I think you guys 547 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 8: would do the very best. So anyways, thanks for everything 548 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 8: that you do. I've really enjoyed listening to your episodes 549 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 8: over the past eight years now. I don't think there's 550 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 8: anything in your catalog that I haven't listened to, and 551 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 8: I'm really hoping to add this one to the list. 552 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 8: All right, Yeah, have a good hmm, here we go. 553 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, we did mention this. I can't remember 554 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: if we're talking about it on this show or a 555 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: different show, but everything you have said is absolutely true 556 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: and I agree with you. I think this could be 557 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 2: a full episode. It shows us how the mechanisms of 558 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 2: government and governance are changing. 559 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, in how control mechanisms are being put in place 560 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 3: in an attempt to make sure uprisings can't come from 561 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: a virtual space, from the Internet, from the cyberspace where 562 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 3: especially young people who are fed up with things like 563 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: overt corruption that's just in everybody's face now in a 564 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: lot of parts of the world, a lot of parts 565 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: of the world where the younger generation has means to 566 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: communicate about those things and organize and then in the 567 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 3: case of Nepaul, stand up and begin mass protests. When 568 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: the government steps forward and says, hey, WhatsApp, Facebook, YouTube, X, 569 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: all the things that you guys use to communicate as 570 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 3: younger folks, We're going to ban all of those so 571 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 3: you cannot have a chance or at least robing to 572 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 3: lessen the chance that you guys can revolt against us. 573 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 3: We the older folks in power. 574 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, forty eight. It was less than forty eight hours 575 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: for the protesters to force the overthrow of the government, 576 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: as we had described earlier, and it is as you noted, 577 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: anti corruption protesting, an attempt to breach the walls of Parliament. 578 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: This led to a lot of chaos. We're talking looting, 579 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: buildings being torched, politicians attacked in their home. I think 580 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: we've all seen the footage of the I and his 581 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: family escaping via helicopter. Yeah, do check that out. Have 582 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: you also seen it yet, folks? 583 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 6: Yeah? 584 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 3: And it led to nineteen human beings being killed by 585 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 3: the police response and the deadly force that was used, 586 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 3: hundreds of people injured by that same you know response. 587 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: More than seventy people killed, according to the spokesperson for 588 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: the Nepal Police, seventy people killed. Yeah, in total, so 589 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: counting you know, police, authoritarian forces and protesters and a 590 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: wow some people. 591 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah wow, Okay, so sorry about that. I've gotten The 592 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: number I'm looking at here is nineteen. But that was 593 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 3: from September ninth when it initially went off and the 594 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 3: prime minister quit after all of this stuff, and it 595 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 3: was twenty six social media apps that got banned, and 596 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: then they decided to roll back that ban after all 597 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 3: of this stuff began going down. It's an intense situation 598 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 3: that occurred. There's an Al Jazeera article about one of 599 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 3: the I guess leaders of the group that stood up 600 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 3: and said no and protested, a man named Sudan Gerong 601 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: s U d A n g U r U n G. 602 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: And this article is about how he will be stepping 603 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: up to run in the March polls, trying to form 604 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: a new quote youth led people's government, which you know 605 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 3: is really great. I worry, I worry often that there's 606 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 3: no way around some of the corruption that occurs once 607 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 3: you reach those levels of power and governance within any system. 608 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 3: I really hope that maybe there's there is a world 609 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: in which a younger generation can come through and just 610 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 3: discard some of that stuff. But it's a tough, uphill battle, 611 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 3: right because there are powers that need that corruption to exist. 612 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are, especially in the case of Nepal 613 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: and as we're about to see in Madagascar, there are 614 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: international or transnational forces, state supported and private and proxy, 615 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 2: that have a vested interest in profiting from a system 616 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: as it stands. So what will often happen is you 617 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 2: will lead a change, right, You'll lead a mass movement, 618 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: and then you'll be ushered into a back room with 619 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: very powerful people who say, look, you know, we didn't 620 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 2: like sharma Oli that much ourselves. He did the following 621 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: things for us, and if you do those things, then 622 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: you can do as you wish. Those conversations happen in 623 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: a very frighteningly civil and friendly way. 624 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Charmoli the former prime minister who stepped down. 625 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but vows not to flee as of today, 626 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: vows not to flee amid the political turmoil. He has 627 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 2: made public statements where he said the current government is 628 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: groundless and they're trying to strip him of his security 629 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 2: and his official privileges. This is a full episode because 630 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: of course we want to look deeper into the motivations 631 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: of the revolution. We would want to look into the 632 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: typical due diligence of possible funding or hidden hands. So yeah, 633 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 2: I think we should absolutely cover this, especially as it 634 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: continues to develop. I do want to point out that 635 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: the reason we're referencing Madic Gascar here as well one 636 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: eyed cyclops is that just ten minutes Ago as we're 637 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: recording this. On September twenty ninth, Reuters has reported that 638 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 2: thousands of people in Madicascar are rallying against water and 639 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: power outage and police are clashing with them in a 640 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: kinetic fashion. So there may be a pattern at play 641 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: here because Reuter's is reporting that the protest in Madagascar 642 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,479 Speaker 2: are directly inspired by the gen Z protest, not only 643 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: in the poll but in Kenya as well. 644 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: Wow Wow. And I have a feeling that very specific 645 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 3: type of protests will be coming to a lot of 646 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 3: other places very soon, especially the US, as these new 647 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 3: data centers are being built, and there are towns where 648 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 3: the water and electricity is going to be usurped for 649 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 3: all the folks living there by the data centers right 650 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 3: all the water being pulled from the aquifers, all the 651 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 3: power that will now have to be generated by the 652 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: brand new nuclear power plants that are going to be built, 653 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 3: and the hundreds of billions of dollars that are being 654 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 3: pushed into this AI behemoth thing that's, you know, in 655 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 3: the mind's eye of all these billionaires. I was reading 656 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 3: this piece about a giant tech corporation out in Europe, 657 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 3: and the CEO coming forward and just talking about how 658 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 3: brutal the layoffs are going to be because he can 659 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 3: do so much. The corporation, which requires the growth, which 660 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 3: requires the money, which requires all that stuff, doesn't need 661 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 3: humans to function anymore. So it will just be this, 662 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 3: you know, in my mind, this almost unstoppable monster in 663 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 3: this set, or this group of kaiju that we're creating 664 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 3: in these data centers. It's really creepy, and we're gonna 665 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: have to protest against them at. 666 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: Some point, right right, or automate the protest and have 667 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: the bots protests themselves. Classic dead Internet theory. I think 668 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 2: this is a universal concern for anybody outside of the 669 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: C suite. To be quite honest, there has been, as 670 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 2: with any new emergent technol, there's been a lot of hype, right, 671 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: There's been a lot. There have been many large claims 672 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: that have yet to be supported, and we're already seeing 673 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: a bit of a fatigue on the part of the humans, 674 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: and we're seeing deep concern about the relevancy of the 675 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: human experiment going forward as this technology evolves. You know 676 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: what happens when you, as a policy maker, let's say 677 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: you're still human, You're not the Albanian AI policy maker. 678 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: Let's say you're still human. You make the laws, and 679 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 2: you have to make a decision about where the water goes. 680 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 2: This is something we didn't predict in our previous series 681 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: on the water Wars, which otherwise aged terrifyingly. Well, I 682 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 2: don't know. 683 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 3: We ow still corporations right buying up the land that 684 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: have the aquifers and all that stuff and then using 685 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 3: it for their own needs. It's just we we had 686 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: no concept of how much water would be necessary for 687 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 3: this new kind. 688 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 2: Of thing exactly. Yeah, yeah, nailed it. 689 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 6: Well. 690 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 2: We also we also have as a quick palate cleanser, 691 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: we also have to shout out someone who I can't 692 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: remember whether you've called in or whether you wrote to 693 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 2: us directly, but asked us about the phrase boffin b 694 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: o f f I N So boffin is just British 695 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 2: slaying for a smart person or a scientist. Yes, yeah, 696 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 2: just we're throwing that one out there because I realized sometimes, 697 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 2: especially when we're cooking with gas, we're just throwing things out, 698 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: we're not explaining them. So boffen just means nerd. That 699 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 2: was the nerds. 700 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 3: Yes, that was ignorant hippopotamus, ignorant hippopotamus. 701 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you freestyled that name, Well done, dude. Yes, boffett, 702 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: it's a real word. It's British slang. We're not British, 703 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: but we love it. And so with this we are 704 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 2: going to call it a day, call it an evening, 705 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 2: wherever you find yourself in this wide old world of ours. 706 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 2: We've got so much more to get to. We got 707 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 2: an excellent, excellent correspondence regarding asking professors for free copies 708 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 2: of their work. 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