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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. Training camp is

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. First practice is Wednesday, but training

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Speaker 1: camp has already begun for the Ravens front office. He

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Speaker 1: is making some moves in anticipation at the beginning of camp.

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Speaker 1: So we're here to break it all down and give

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Speaker 1: you our take. And Garrett, let's start with running back

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. The Ravens agreed to a one year deal

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Speaker 1: in principle with him, pending the passing of a physical.

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Speaker 1: What was your initial take a reaction to that signing.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think the Ravens are adding some depth

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Speaker 3: I think Melvin Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Serves as a pretty good insurance policy. I think they

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Speaker 2: have really good players there with J. K. Dobbins and

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Speaker 2: Gus Edwards and Justice Hill, but they bring in Gordon,

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Speaker 2: who's an insurance policy. I think that gives them somebody

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Speaker 2: who's been a workhorse running back in his career. Last

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Speaker 2: year he ends the season on the Chiefs practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Prior to that, he'd had back to back seasons where

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Speaker 3: Nine hundred yards. So he's been a.

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Speaker 2: Highly productive player in his career rush for more than

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Speaker 2: twix thousand yards and fifty five touchdowns. How much does

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Speaker 2: he have left in the tank? You know, that's always

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Speaker 2: kind of a question when you sign a veteran running back.

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Speaker 2: We'll see I think in some ways it kind of

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Speaker 2: like he's thirty.

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Speaker 1: He's not like it's not like he's thirty four. No,

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Speaker 1: but thirty four running back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And and he's going into his ninth season, right,

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Speaker 2: so I think I still think he's a really good player.

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Speaker 2: I just think, you know, those are all the questions

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Speaker 2: like that as we have these conversations about running backs

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. This is kind of the national topic

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Speaker 2: these days. Yeah, with running backs in this league, how

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Speaker 2: you get him on the field in training camp, you

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Speaker 2: can see exactly what he's got left. And I think

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Speaker 2: in some ways, you know, the Ravens have made moves

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Speaker 2: like this. I mean it's not the exact same, but

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Speaker 2: last year they signed Mike Davis, who was a veteran

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Speaker 4: I think that signing was.

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Speaker 3: It was earlier in the process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Basically you get a veteran in that could

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Speaker 2: And I think that at a minimum, that's what this

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Speaker 2: a lot left and can be a really productive rusher

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Speaker 1: Well, I think too, you have to take into account

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Speaker 1: the context of what's going on at running back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Gus Edwards is not yet. Well, maybe you will be

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Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't a full participant during mini camp,

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Speaker 1: don't know. And and JK. Dobbins obviously didn't take part

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Speaker 1: going to be going to be? I think that's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure he's opening training camp on the physically I

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Speaker 2: know we're gonna get to the other transactions, but you know,

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Speaker 2: JK Dobams opening training camp on the physically unable to

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Speaker 5: Exactly, he can come off that at any point exactly.

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Speaker 4: He could come off that the very next day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 1: But to your point of an insurance policy, that where

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Speaker 1: this is the frame that you used off the top here.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good way of putting it, because

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Speaker 4: And I think Melvin Gordon's a pretty good solution to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Gordon is somebody, like I said, like at

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Speaker 5: And he's a two time Pro bowler.

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Speaker 2: Been a really productive player. And look again, the shelf

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Speaker 2: how he looks and how he's running the ball, how

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Speaker 2: if you go into a season and you just want

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Speaker 2: You have three players that have over like all three

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, kind of my point is also that I

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Speaker 1: expect JK. Dobbins to play this year and have a

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Speaker 1: fantastic year. As I've been saying, I'm very bullish on JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins and what he can do this year. That hasn't

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Speaker 1: changed and this signing doesn't change that my perception of that.

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Speaker 1: I expect gust to have another really good year. He

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Speaker 1: looks big and muscular, I mean he looks like the bus.

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Speaker 1: And uh, but even if even if those two guys

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Speaker 1: of to have a third running back that gets some

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Speaker 1: want to have depth there at that position, and so, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the Ravens, that's one place the Ravens don't

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Speaker 1: want to be shorthanded. Justice Hill again, he's a good

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Speaker 1: He's proven to be a speedy, shifty, good change of paceback,

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Speaker 1: Like I think that the Ravens can even find a

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Speaker 4: Carries for Melvin Gordon? Yeah, sure, as the third running back.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's not out of the question by

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Speaker 2: To your point about the up to on the contract

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Speaker 2: that Adam Schetzer reported that it's up to three point

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Speaker 2: one one million, Again, we haven't seen the full breakdown

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Speaker 2: But if he were to get that, then that would

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Speaker 2: reportedly be the biggest contract of any of the Rape's

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Speaker 2: obviously he's still on his rookie contracts. I think that

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Speaker 2: was one point three for JK. So, like, if Gordon

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Speaker 4: He's been he's probably playing a lot.

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Speaker 3: He's playing a lot.

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Speaker 2: He's not just an insurance policy, like he's getting the

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Speaker 1: So yeah, interesting move, I don't really see I think

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Speaker 2: Also I also think too, like once we get through

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Speaker 2: are those guys all in the field? Are JK and

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Speaker 2: How's Melvin Gordon look that you can have a better

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Speaker 2: sense just of like, Okay, now, like my guess still

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Speaker 2: But I think that in a couple of weeks we'd

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Speaker 1: The one person I think that this signing it does

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Speaker 1: of buzz from Ravens fans during OTA's and Minnie Campbell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more crowded back there, and you add in

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Speaker 4: Doesn't probably get tougher, It does get tougher.

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Speaker 1: And that's not to say that he, you know, can't

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Speaker 1: Mevin Gordon, and maybe you can. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: one thing you can say for sure. It does impact him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's take a quick break and then

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Speaker 2: run through some of the other transactions that the Ravens

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Speaker 2: made just before the start of training camp. All right,

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens had uht me make sure I did

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Speaker 1: my math here?

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Speaker 4: Seven moves? Seven?

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Speaker 5: Count up to seven?

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Speaker 4: I think I can. Okay, you know you list them in.

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Speaker 2: As long as long as you can count on your

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Speaker 4: Seven.

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: So this coming from the guy you know your math

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Speaker 1: don't even starts.

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Speaker 3: I'm great at math, all right.

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Speaker 4: The last one seven. We're still a seven.

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Speaker 1: The facts of the situation are the Ravens wide receiver

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Speaker 1: So you know, even if Bateman isn't one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: Here's we're here to give you our podcast or our

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Speaker 4: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: What do I expect, you asked me right now. I

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Speaker 1: I expect JK is like an emotional dude and also

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Speaker 1: Tias He's He's in a similar category of player to

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Speaker 1: Tyas Bowser, similar kind of player Tyas really good in coverage,

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Speaker 1: offers pass rush ability, flexible, versatile linebacker, similar to Vany.

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Speaker 1: I would expect Vanoy would back up Tyas Bowser or

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Speaker 1: step in if if Bowser isn't ready, Tyas Bowser hasn't practiced.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this also, like we just talked about it exactly.

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Speaker 5: He opened on that non football injury list exactly.

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Speaker 4: So what's his status exactly? Don't know.

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Speaker 1: But if there's a problem there, Kyle van Noy is

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Speaker 1: a pretty darn good solution. I mean, here's the guy

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Speaker 1: who started a lot of football games in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and played at a pretty darn good level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And I mean we'll also see if

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Speaker 2: the Ravens end up signing you.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that that, like.

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Speaker 1: That du Wayne Smooth from the Jags, the d N

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Speaker 1: slash outside linebacker, was reportedly going to visit Monday, I

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Speaker 1: think it was, and then he ended.

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Speaker 4: Up resigning with the on Friday, So that's out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ravens are clearly, if the reports are true,

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Speaker 1: clearly in the outside linebacker market. Yeah, in that space,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's gonna be a move made before

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Speaker 1: training camp hoopens or very shortly thereafter. H is what

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Speaker 1: I predict. Yeah, I was not going to predict the

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Speaker 1: running back move. That will call me a little bit

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Speaker 1: more by surprise, Uh huh. I think I will predict

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Speaker 1: and I think we've been doing it that they add

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Speaker 1: an outside linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that Van Derluait, look for all

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Speaker 2: the reasons that you said, can make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: Veteran player, versatile, like he's kind of been used all

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Speaker 2: over as a linebacker in his career, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that he's a He's a tough guy who's

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Speaker 2: been in the league a long time, and so if

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Speaker 2: you can get him at this stage of the game,

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Speaker 2: like provide depth, could step in his start if needed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you know, like we've been debating a little bit,

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Speaker 2: like with the outside linebacker, like who are your two starters?

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Speaker 3: Like who are your two guys like It and Oway? Okay,

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Speaker 3: we've all been raving about a Jaba.

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Speaker 4: Where does he fit exactly?

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Speaker 3: What is that kind of thing?

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Speaker 1: Is that Oway and a Jaba are kind of both

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Speaker 1: rush linebackers, right, Like their bigger dudes can rush the passer,

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Speaker 1: not really known in coverage, really.

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Speaker 4: Physical players.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Whereas like your Sam linebacker is kind of this

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Speaker 1: kind of guy, tyas Bowser, Kyle van Noy, you know,

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Speaker 1: a little bit smaller of a guy, uh, better working

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Speaker 1: backwards in coverage. But the versatility too, if you get

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Speaker 1: some one on one and pastoral situations can definitely get home.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Colb I always played middle linebacker at times

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Speaker 3: in his.

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Speaker 5: Career, right, I mean he's a very so to me,

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Speaker 5: what I like about this is what I would like

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Speaker 5: about it.

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Speaker 1: The prospect of Van Noy is a it's an insurance

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Speaker 1: policy with bowser experienced dude played a high level as

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Speaker 1: I've already said, and b Houston, Justin Houston is more

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Speaker 1: of a rush linebacker. And I'm still on board with

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Speaker 1: bringing in Justin Houston even if the Ravens did it.

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Speaker 1: Add a cowboy, No, if you could make both happen,

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Speaker 1: sign me up. Yeah, sure right, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: pass up Justin Houston nine and a half sacks if

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Speaker 1: the price is right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: But like I do think that there's something to the

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Speaker 1: notion of the Ravens get time. If Justin Houston's in

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Speaker 1: no rush, I'm in no huge rush if I'm the

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Speaker 1: Ravens either, because I want to get a longer look

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Speaker 1: at a Jopoh. I want to get a longer look

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Speaker 1: at O Way and see, like, all right, the talent's there,

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Speaker 1: clearly they've been really good in practice so far. Let's

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Speaker 1: get training camp. Let's take the next step up the

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Speaker 1: pads on we're a little more physical. Let's see, ye Like,

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Speaker 1: the more time I get to evaluate them, the better

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Speaker 1: gauge I get on my comfort level. Am I willing

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Speaker 1: to put my eggs in that basket and say, let's

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Speaker 1: ride with these dudes? Or do I need to bring

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Speaker 1: back justin Houston, you know, for an insurance policy?

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Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, all their good thoughts, good questions, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see how this ends up playing out.

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Speaker 3: If it Rayveons end up making a move there.

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Speaker 2: So if you guys have questions where you're going to

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Speaker 2: do a full training camp preview coming up next week

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Speaker 2: before that first practice on Wednesday, you can email us

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Speaker 2: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net let

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Speaker 2: us know what questions you have. And as camp gets

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Speaker 2: up and running again, there's also gonna be a whole

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's a.

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Speaker 2: Busy time where there's a ton of people who are

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Speaker 2: that full training camp preview.

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Speaker 3: Then practice starts and we're off and running.

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Speaker 4: So I got the hiccups. You better wrap this up,

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Speaker 4: all right, don't hit up.

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