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Speaker 3: Taylor, please put this on the poll.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson would be a better wide receiver or I

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Speaker 1: can't remember if I voted for Bill or not? Which

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Speaker 1: one will Bill Pollion be most remembered for?

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Speaker 4: That's right? He was uh Lamar Jackson as a wide

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Speaker 4: receiver back today? Right yeah?

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Speaker 5: This morning? I also saw that he had a first

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Speaker 5: round grade on Tom Brady, the only person who has

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Speaker 5: that claim that they had that grade on him.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, Bill Pollion, listen is he We'll get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this in just a second.

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Speaker 3: It has taken over the sports Day Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to get guest on, and we have

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Speaker 1: Mike Francessa on coming up at four o'clock. If you

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Speaker 1: asked me, what's the one guest you want on in

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Speaker 1: America today to discuss Bill Belichick being snubbed by Pro

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Speaker 1: Football's Hall of Fame, I would tell you it would

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Speaker 1: be Mike Francessa one, Trey Wingo two. We got both

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Speaker 1: of them, yes, yes, but I'm the one booking the

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Speaker 1: guest here. At all I'm getting from Taylor on this busy,

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Speaker 1: busy day, mikey A was getting.

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Speaker 3: It as well.

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Speaker 1: Is top five athletes if they were named after getting

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Speaker 1: snubbed from the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm gotta rum up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I take Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to Taylor's top five in a second. Your

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Speaker 3: thoughts here is?

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, it's funny that it's sort of taken

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Speaker 6: over the day in sports, because when I saw it

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Speaker 6: this morning, I was like, Ah, that's either going to

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Speaker 4: And say that was some bitter folks.

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Speaker 6: But now I'm starting to think this was a brilliant

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Speaker 4: Jordan's last name I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, Hudson.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Okay, that's why you're here at Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that that in the top five list he's

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Speaker 1: about to deliver.

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Speaker 7: Guy.

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Speaker 6: They did Bill such a favor with this, Like I

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Speaker 6: know in the long term, not a first ballot Hall

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Speaker 4: That's something people are gonna remember.

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Speaker 6: But they're gonna remember it because he deserved it so much, right,

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Speaker 6: so it's not really gonna be haha, you're a second

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Speaker 6: ballot Hall of Famer. But what they did with this

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Speaker 6: is they let him. First of all, his speech next

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Speaker 6: year has so much, so much more so many more

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Speaker 6: hilarious elements to it. Right by waiting a year, he

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Speaker 6: probably just to stand up there and pause and be like, well,

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Speaker 6: I can stay here till next year if you want

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Speaker 4: That would be hilarious. They gave him a way better speech.

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Speaker 6: They gave him an entire year to get off of

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Speaker 6: this North Carolina stink that he's got on. And because

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Speaker 6: right now it would just be a little sad if

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Speaker 6: Bill Belichick, North Carolina coach Bill Belichick with a how

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Speaker 6: many win team Taylor would just beyond that podium, four

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Speaker 6: this is the only sort of success or fame I

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Speaker 4: Therefore, you know, thank you for letting me in.

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Speaker 6: If he waits this next year, he's all of a

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Speaker 6: sudden this sympathetic figure, and again everybody knows he's what

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Speaker 6: number two behind Don Shula in all time wins, Like,

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Speaker 6: of course he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: I think this changes the narrative for watching him go

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Speaker 4: And I think it's a brilliant pr move.

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Speaker 1: You have North Carolina being better this season than they

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Speaker 3: You see improvement there. Huh?

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Speaker 5: Really, that's is he on the Carolina insider. I don't care.

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Speaker 6: If they are a loser team again, but that's what

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Speaker 6: this does. This allows him to get off of that subject.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not.

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Speaker 6: The former Patriots coach who won six Super Bowls and

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Speaker 6: I'm stuck with this Carolina team. I'm the guy that

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Speaker 6: those bitter old men didn't vote in on the first

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Speaker 3: And look at me.

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Speaker 4: Now I can joke about that, I can talk about that.

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Speaker 6: I can still give my acceptance speech into the Hall

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Speaker 1: I like the idea of giving Belichick a year to

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Speaker 1: the idea of roasting Bill Pollion with its entire fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: upon getting into the Hall of Fame. But I do

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Speaker 3: I do. I didn't think about that, and it most

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Tylor, I'll give you a little preview what

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick's speech is going to be? Thanks?

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Speaker 3: Put it on the poll. Is Bill Belichick's speech going

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Speaker 6: It's a good question, Mike, He asked at lyas spend

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Speaker 3: Definitely the speech.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: I mean right now, yes, right.

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Speaker 1: He is going to go scorched earth when he finally

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Speaker 1: gets in. It's a great point by you. It gives

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Speaker 1: about Tom Brady rushing to his defense saying he's the

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Speaker 1: greatest coach ever. If I could only play for one coach,

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Speaker 1: it would be Bill Belichick. Hey, how about take some

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Speaker 1: accountability for the flake Gate because that's the reason apparently

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Speaker 1: he's not getting in. You wanted your balls to be smaller?

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Speaker 3: What or.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it helps, or.

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Speaker 6: You got Tom Brady to talk glowingly about you out

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Speaker 3: What would have had to happen.

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Speaker 4: To Bill Belichick outside of some terminal illness. We don't

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Speaker 6: There where Tom Brady would come out and say glowing

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Speaker 6: be this, Yeah, unless maybe he got fired from North Camp.

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Speaker 6: Even then, Taylor, I don't think Tom Brady would come

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Speaker 5: If Belichick got fired, Brady would come out and say

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Speaker 5: justifiable exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: This is basically the only thing that.

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Speaker 6: Could have happened to Bill Belichick around this time where

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Speaker 1: So if he accepts the interview, mikey A, this is

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Speaker 1: interesting because and I'm wondering how you feel about it,

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Speaker 1: because I think he's right. We are conditioned you and

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Speaker 1: I to not like Bill Belichick. Belichick took the Jets

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Speaker 1: head coaching job, and after day realized what a mess

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Speaker 1: it was, and he left and he drove up ninety

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Speaker 1: then he got Tom Brady and he won six Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: But I do feel badly for Bill Belichick today, and

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying that.

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Speaker 3: How about you, as a jet fit.

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Speaker 8: I don't feel bad for him at all. I'm happy.

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Speaker 8: I hope he sits there with a miserable look on

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Speaker 7: Bill.

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Speaker 6: The only other time I even came close to feeling

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Speaker 6: bad for Bill is when he was violated by that

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Speaker 6: ring camera footage, right, because I mean, he just thought

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Speaker 6: He can assume is a nice night with his girlfriend,

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Speaker 6: and here he is out for expos for everybody to see.

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Speaker 4: That felt a little intrusive.

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Speaker 9: This.

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Speaker 4: I definitely feel sorry for him.

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Speaker 6: I think most people feel sorry for him, and I

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Speaker 6: is because again, once he's in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not his plan, you know what I'm saying, right,

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Speaker 1: His plan is to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: But if you think about this, like, would you rather

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Speaker 6: and then be a Hall of Famer forever? Because nobody

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Speaker 6: says second ballot Hall of Famer Bill Belichick. They'll say

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame coach. You're a Belichick, and so I

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Speaker 6: think I think if you were to just put it

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Speaker 6: a lot more positive experience. Now he can joke about

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Speaker 6: taking another year penalty for Spygate instead of avoiding Spygate

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Speaker 6: at all costs.

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Speaker 1: It would be the highest rated Hall of Fame ceremony

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Speaker 1: be now be waiting one full year to hear what

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has to say upon getting inducted at the

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Speaker 5: Can I play Devil's advocate for here?

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Speaker 3: I mean you're going to anyway, aren't you? What I mean?

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Speaker 5: And this is something I'm going to pitch to Mike

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Speaker 5: Francesa too. Oh Jesus, Belichick's record without Brady is eighty

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Speaker 5: three and one oh four. What if the Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame voters got together and was like Hey, we kind

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Speaker 5: of needed to see you do it without Brady to

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Speaker 5: your win percentage is worse than Todd Bowles.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so wins aren't a quarterback stat They're not a

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Speaker 3: Whose stat are they.

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Speaker 1: Put it on the polltailer if Tom Brady never wins

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Speaker 1: that Super Bowl at tam But is Bill Belichick in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame today? I mean, there were so

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Speaker 1: many weird reasons as to why Belichick. Did Bruce Arian's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: Nobody would have complained if they would have stopped that

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Speaker 6: first North Carolina game after that first drive, just to

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Speaker 6: have the Hall of Fame ceremony right.

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Speaker 4: Then and there.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and so not only did he win, knows look

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Speaker 6: at that drive, Get this man in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 6: and then continue the season in week two.

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Speaker 1: You're right, and nobody would have complained. Right the apex

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Speaker 1: of his career. Michael Jordan, he got Michael Jordan to

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Speaker 1: attending North Carolina football game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that would have been the perfect time, right Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan comes down from the stands.

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Speaker 6: It's like you know what, I want to give this

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Speaker 6: of Fame, and again nobody would have any complaints. Instead,

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Speaker 6: going to be amazing drama.

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Speaker 1: Our buddy Bouger McFarlane said that Mike Rabel there's a

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Speaker 1: But Taylor has a top five list because I've been

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Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you for doing this.

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Speaker 5: So this top five list is top five athletes if

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Speaker 4: So you're in the hospital, right, you have a baby.

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Speaker 1: It's a strange obsession to have, but they are obsessed

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Speaker 3: How do you feel are you?

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Speaker 1: Where's your confidence level right now with Taylor delivering this list?

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Speaker 8: It's high right now. Taylor seems really confident about it.

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Speaker 8: And since you kind of did his job, I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: All right, Taylor, do you have Eddy ol eyes? What

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Speaker 6: I mean, was Hope Solo snubbed from a Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 8: Right, okay, who's Hope Solo we're talking about?

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Speaker 3: Just leave it alone. It's his list.

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Speaker 5: Number five Byron left out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so mister and missus left witch. Okay, they

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Speaker 3: To name their child Byron left out.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm not confident you have four better than Byron left.

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Speaker 5: Number four James not worthy.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 7: It feels.

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Speaker 8: It feels more Hall of Famous.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: All right, go ahead to Hyler.

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Speaker 5: Number three Denied Gordon.

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Speaker 3: I love that D Gordon.

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Speaker 3: Denied Gordon? Okay, that's those pesky Gordon's.

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Speaker 5: Purvis few votes short?

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Speaker 7: You got is he?

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Speaker 3: I thought you what's his name? Purvios?

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Speaker 5: What perfect short?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Really few votes short?

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Speaker 3: I thought like a purpose Ellison.

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Speaker 3: Yes you want to uh you want to redo the list?

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Speaker 5: No, but I do like Mark Few vote short? All right?

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Speaker 5: The number one athlete if they were named after getting

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Speaker 3: Never failure? Snubb Snubb of Watson, Yes, two green jackets.

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Speaker 5: I was between Snubba Watson and there's a player on

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Speaker 1: You would have got me on that there was a

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: If you've listened to me over the years, you know

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Speaker 1: Mike Francesa, along with Christopher mad Doug Brusso the reasons

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Speaker 1: I got into this industry. Love their show, love them,

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Speaker 3: Here later on in my life.

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Speaker 1: It's been very nice, and Mike is nice enough to

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Speaker 1: join us right now. Mike, how w are you? Thank

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Speaker 10: I'm good.

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Speaker 3: How you doing I am doing good. Are you in

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Speaker 10: Mike, I've been back and forth. I'm all my way

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Speaker 7: Here for a couple of days.

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Speaker 10: So I'm going all with back to New York, where zero.

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Speaker 10: But you might as well be zero there considering it's

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Speaker 1: Let's start in the obvious place today with you, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick not elected to the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 10: How Why that silly? And again you cannot chastise him

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Speaker 10: Okay. Craft made sure it didn't happen. He made sure

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Speaker 10: He's gonna get in next year, and no one's gonna remember.

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Speaker 10: Because I made the point earlier today to someone, Hey,

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Speaker 10: Jobi Bera, Okay, Rogers Hornsby, I can go down the

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Speaker 10: People forget Okay. No one when they're in the Hall

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Speaker 10: it's a little bit of a punishment. I'm sure Belichick

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Speaker 10: he'll be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Mike Taylor from Rockland County, first time a long time.

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Speaker 5: What do you think about people who are pointing out

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Speaker 10: the man has won eight Super Bowls? How are you

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Speaker 10: he didn't do well when he was in Cleveland where

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Speaker 10: The bottom line was, hey, he had some bad years.

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Speaker 10: They all do. They complain about parcels without Belichick? Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I tell you what to apologize for. The pope who

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Speaker 10: To nine as a head coach. He won. He created

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Speaker 7: Ball away from the Bills.

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Speaker 10: But the Big Nickel became very big because of what

448
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Speaker 10: they did to the Bills that year against the team

449
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Speaker 10: that scored fifty one points against the Raiders. The bottom

450
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Speaker 10: line is, we know Belichick can coach. He's not perfect,

451
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Speaker 10: he's not a genius. He needs a quarterback to win. Listen,

452
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Speaker 10: here's a big headline. No coach wins without players. When

453
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Speaker 10: they don't have good players, none of them wins. That's

454
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Speaker 10: the bottom line. They all need players. I don't care

455
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Speaker 10: if it's Vince Lombardi, Newt Rockney, or Bear Bryant. They

456
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Speaker 10: all need players. And when they don't have players, They're

457
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Speaker 10: going to struggle when they went. When they have players,

458
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Speaker 10: do they win? And the answer is yes. The man

459
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Speaker 10: won six Super Bowls?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight, as you know, if you want to.

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Speaker 10: What the giants said, Absolutely he was. I mean think

462
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Speaker 10: about that. He's been on the winning side eight times.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, It's absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of Bill Poullian saying he's not

465
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Speaker 1: certain if he voted for Belichick or not.

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Speaker 10: Bill looks foolish. I mean, the whole listen, Bill should

467
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Speaker 10: have said I hate his guts. I think he cheated.

468
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Speaker 10: He would have been better off than what he said.

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Speaker 3: You aren't so right. You have never been more right

470
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Speaker 3: than you weren't just right there. That was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Mike, Yeah, you have a question here, go ahead for

472
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Speaker 1: the great Mike francessa.

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Speaker 8: I do mikey a Connecticut first time Bill, what do

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Speaker 8: you what do you say to the people who say

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Speaker 8: that the Baseball Hall of Fame, which is one of

476
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Speaker 8: the most controversial hall of fames with their ability to

477
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Speaker 8: draw lines, this move kind of makes the NFL Hall

478
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Speaker 8: of Fame sound like the Baseball Hall of Fame, where

479
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Speaker 8: they're not doing it based on the field they're doing

480
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Speaker 8: it based on personal preference.

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Speaker 10: Listen, voters, Voters often look petty, looks silly in this process.

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Speaker 10: These guys, the voters and the institution, are the ones

483
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Speaker 10: who are going to take the hit here. Belichick's not

484
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Speaker 10: going to take the hit. Everyone's coming to Belichick's defense.

485
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Speaker 10: All the great players ever, Jimmy Johnson, all the big players,

486
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Speaker 10: they're all coming to his defense because they know his

487
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Speaker 10: record is, without question, a Hall of Fame record. It's

488
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Speaker 10: not even worth discussing. Okay. The bottom line is, Hey,

489
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Speaker 10: if you're going to be subjective about it, get out

490
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Speaker 10: of the way. I mean, it's not supposed to be

491
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Speaker 10: something that's subjective. It's supposed to be. Is it a

492
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Speaker 10: fair analysis or not. The guy's a Hall of famer.

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Speaker 10: I don't care if you hate him. I don't care

494
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Speaker 10: if you think he's jacked the ripper. He's a Hall

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Speaker 10: of famer. Did he do things he shouldn't have done? Yes?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 10: Did he get every edge he could get? Absolutely? He's

498
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Speaker 10: not the only guy who ever cheated. I guarantee you,

499
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Speaker 10: I guarantee you a lot. But he's not the only guy.

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Speaker 7: Who ever cheated.

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Speaker 3: Mike. Yeah, you want to apologize. I mean, Jesus Christ, yeah.

502
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Speaker 7: I do. I have to apologe. You know what it is.

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Speaker 8: I got nervous. I was talking to the Pope, I

504
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Speaker 8: was talking to my friends Bill Belichick on the mine.

505
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Speaker 7: But I was nervous.

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Speaker 10: Bottom line is, you know, the bottom line is it's

507
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Speaker 10: just silly. This was a move that they should have

508
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Speaker 10: realized was going to blow up in their face. There

509
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Speaker 10: was no question this was going to blow up in

510
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Speaker 10: their face in a big way. Because his record is

511
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Speaker 10: so far out there to the good, there's no way

512
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Speaker 10: to keep him out of the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you are one hundred percent correct, Mike. I understand

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Speaker 1: what you're saying about. Listen, he'll be in in one year.

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Speaker 1: But to a guy like Belichick, I know, but you ever,

516
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Speaker 1: so you know Belichick a little bit, and you obviously

517
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Speaker 1: know Parcels very well.

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Speaker 10: Sick and I have never gotten along really, to be

519
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Speaker 10: honest with you, you know, we just never did. We

520
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 10: didn't spend a lot of time together, you know, but

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Speaker 10: I was you know, we have been around each other,

522
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Speaker 10: especially in the Giant day. It's not so much of

523
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Speaker 10: the New England days. But listen, the guy had a

524
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Speaker 10: great career. Whether you like him, don't like him, you

525
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Speaker 10: don't like what he does, it doesn't matter. He's been

526
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Speaker 10: you know, he's not one of nature's noblemen. Okay, let's

527
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Speaker 10: be honest, all right, that the way it is. But

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Speaker 10: he's been incredibly successful. And to me, this is one

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Speaker 10: where I'm surprised that even somebody should have stood up

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Speaker 10: in the room and said, hey, we're going to look

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Speaker 10: like idiots.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yep, yep, so mu should have done that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm wondering, Mike, because, like, don't you think the

534
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Speaker 1: first ballot stuff means something to a guy like Belichick?

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Speaker 10: Yes, for about three days. So here's what I've learned.

536
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Speaker 10: Guys who don't react to anything, honors, Coach of the Years,

537
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Speaker 10: et cetera. They all after they've been out of the

538
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Speaker 10: sport and they've waited and all the awards are gone away,

539
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Speaker 10: all the accolades are gone away. Now comes the Hall

540
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Speaker 10: of Fame. It's the last one, it's the final one,

541
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Speaker 10: and it's permanent. You're there for history. Okay, you get

542
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Speaker 10: to go in the room and you're there for history.

543
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Speaker 10: It means a tremendous amount, more than anyone can understand.

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Speaker 10: I've seen guys so mad when they didn't get in. Players, coaches,

545
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Speaker 10: I've seen guys so hurt when they didn't get in.

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Speaker 10: It's unbelievable. I understand it. Everybody wants to get into

547
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Speaker 10: the Hall of Fame and their profession because it's permanent,

548
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Speaker 10: it's there for history, and it means a lot, and

549
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Speaker 10: it's one percent of the people who played or coached.

550
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Speaker 10: It's a tremendous achievement in any walk of life. The

551
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Speaker 10: bottom line is, yeah, it matters to them, and it

552
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Speaker 10: matters a lot, and it matters more after they retire

553
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Speaker 10: because there's no other rewards and no other accolades coming

554
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Speaker 10: down the pike. This is the last one and that's

555
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Speaker 10: why it's permanent and it matters. There's no question. It hurts,

556
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Speaker 10: But it hurts for a couple of days because you

557
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Speaker 10: know what he is going to pass in a hurry.

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Speaker 10: He can lose some more games in Carolina and then

559
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Speaker 10: you can get into the lull of lamp. I mean,

560
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Speaker 10: that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: Miked up as the podcast, check it out wherever you

562
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Speaker 1: get your podcast. Since we have you here, Mike for

563
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Speaker 1: a second, what'd you make of the Giant? What'd you

564
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Speaker 1: make of the Giants hiring John Harbaugh. They got it

565
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Speaker 1: right right, and it was.

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Speaker 10: The only possible hire they had. There was no one

567
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Speaker 10: else when I was looking, when he was still in Baltimore,

568
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Speaker 10: there was no I even said, I hope something happens

569
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Speaker 10: with John Harbin. There's been rumors he's the perfect guy.

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Speaker 10: There was no one else. Mccafey didn't fit, nobody else

571
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Speaker 10: who had experienced fit. This was one hundred percent the

572
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Speaker 10: perfect hire, one hundred There is no way he will

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Speaker 10: not be successful with the Giants. There is no possible.

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Speaker 8: Way, Mike, with the Giants appearing to having gotten it

575
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Speaker 8: right and the Jets appearing to do it all wrong

576
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Speaker 8: in every single way, I'm just curious for you. What

577
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Speaker 8: are you looking forward more to covering next season? Is

578
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Speaker 8: it the dumpster fire which has grown into like a

579
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Speaker 8: tire fire at this or is it the Giants showing

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Speaker 8: signs of life.

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Speaker 10: I'm so tired now. Obviously, the Giants have been angry

582
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Speaker 10: with me many times in the past, but I have

583
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Speaker 10: a relationship with John marraw I always have. I've had time.

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Speaker 10: I'm very close to a lot of people with the Giants,

585
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Speaker 10: and have been a lot of people who work there.

586
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Speaker 10: So the giants have and I have been very close

587
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Speaker 10: to a lot of the years, even though the ghettle

588
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Speaker 10: of music are very angry at me. Recently they've been

589
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Speaker 10: angry at me. But I have great respect for John

590
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Speaker 10: and an affinity for John Marraw, especially Chris mara and

591
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Speaker 10: lived very well. Even the touches I know. Well. The

592
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 10: bottom line is all class people in a big way.

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Speaker 10: The Jets are such a joke. Now, listen, what he's

594
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 10: no dummy. He bought the team for six hundred and

595
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Speaker 10: thirty million. It's now worth seven or eight billion. Okay,

596
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Speaker 10: he's made a good bye and he first of all

597
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Speaker 10: didn't matter. He's a Johnson and Johnson are he never

598
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Speaker 10: needed a dollar in his wife. We know that. You know,

599
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Speaker 10: he's born a billionaire. We understand that. Okay, he's made

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Speaker 10: a good buy from an investment standpoint, But he has

601
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Speaker 10: no idea what it means to own a football team,

602
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Speaker 10: and he has no idea how to work with people

603
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Speaker 10: at all. And he listens to the worst people in history. Okay,

604
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Speaker 10: and they have had a couple of points when they've

605
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 10: had it close. Listen, I blame some people for stuff

606
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Speaker 10: that they did there. When they should have stayed. Okay,

607
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Speaker 10: Manginie should have been there for fifteen years. The guy

608
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Speaker 10: would have been He's a terrific coach. It was his fault.

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Speaker 7: He was a jerk.

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Speaker 10: You can't treat the owner like he's not the owner,

611
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Speaker 10: and he did, and he got out of there, even

612
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Speaker 10: though he had two winning years in three years. They

613
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Speaker 10: dumped them because they didn't like them, and he was wrong.

614
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Speaker 10: He was completely wrong. They had some good times and

615
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Speaker 10: he's the one who built the right team, but then

616
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Speaker 10: Woody screwed it up by bringing in fres Father who

617
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 10: didn't want Okay, the bottom line is Woody has no

618
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Speaker 10: idea what he's doing and what they're doing now with

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Speaker 10: Aaron Glenn, I have never seen before someone said, you,

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Speaker 10: Jackson did this in Cleveland and went from one to

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Speaker 10: fifteen to Owen sixteen. The Jets are gonna get worse, Okay,

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Speaker 10: I mean they're gonna get worse first, and that's hard

623
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Speaker 10: to believe. And he has got rid of the entire

624
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Speaker 10: staff after the first year. It is insanity. What is

625
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Speaker 10: going on there. Waved the white flag and they tried

626
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Speaker 10: they tried to hire John Duden as an assistant an assistant.

627
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Speaker 10: He knows more football than them, you know, walking in

628
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Speaker 10: the door. It's like Einstein and the Horse, and the

629
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Speaker 10: horse that counts with its book.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

631
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Speaker 10: The bottom line is it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

633
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Speaker 10: But the whole thing, now, if they hired Frank Right

634
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 10: to be the offensive coordinator, I think that's a step

635
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 10: in right direction if that happens. Okay, but they are

636
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Speaker 10: such a mess right now. They have a good special

637
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 10: teams coach, that's basically it. Otherwise the coaches are a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, it's such a mess that Gruden, who desperately

639
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: wants back of the NFL, said no, thanks to the

640
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Speaker 1: New York Jets.

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Speaker 10: Right, and you probably could have taken the place over

642
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Speaker 10: in a week.

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Speaker 3: Right, he'd be the head coach. Right.

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Speaker 10: I think it was in two weeks he would have

645
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Speaker 10: been the head coach, right, Mike.

646
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Speaker 5: First off, congratulations news Day's number one sports icon in

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Speaker 5: sports radio.

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Speaker 10: Very nice, Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Was it ever a doubt I'd be coming on open

650
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Speaker 5: number one every metric that I have, But I'm making

651
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Speaker 5: my first appearance on Radio Row this year. I consider

652
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Speaker 5: you the godfather of Radio Row, along with Mad Dog.

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Speaker 5: Any tips for a first time are going out to

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Speaker 5: radio You.

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Speaker 10: Know, they've ruined Radio Row. You know we in the beginning,

656
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Speaker 10: we had so much fun there. But what happened was,

657
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Speaker 10: like everything else, money ruins everything. Now radio Row is about,

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Speaker 10: you know, about what product they can sell you. They

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Speaker 10: charge tickets to radio Row. You don't get anybody of

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Speaker 10: to sell products and they give you the same bed

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Speaker 10: and if you stwo guys knows this one after another

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Speaker 10: after another. Guy's done not in use. He doesn't even

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Speaker 10: know who he's talking to anymore. He's done so many interviews, okay,

665
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Speaker 10: and he's picking a product, right, and he comes in

666
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 10: with a piece of paper about a product he knows

667
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Speaker 10: nothing about, and he tries to tell you about the product, right,

668
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 10: And that's basically, hey, don't forget to mention my product.

669
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Speaker 10: I don't want to mention your products. Okay. So the

670
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 10: whole thing is terrible now. It's so plus they take

671
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Speaker 10: care of only their rights holders, and they have so

672
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Speaker 10: many rights holders now and so many big companies involved

673
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 10: that that we were a part of that was so natural.

674
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 10: It was us and then stations grew around us to

675
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Speaker 10: where there was fifty or forty five or fifty big stations,

676
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Speaker 10: and that was a vibrant time. But then the NFL

677
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 10: ruined it like they ruin everything else because they are

678
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Speaker 10: the greediest humans who have ever walked the earth. You

679
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 10: have to understand that. Okay, they all they care about

680
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 10: is the next buck, the next buck, and that's what's

681
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 10: wrong with the end. There's a couple of things wrong

682
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 10: with the NFL right now. Number One, the union has

683
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 10: way too much to say about what coaches can do

684
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Speaker 10: and can't do in terms of running their team and

685
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Speaker 10: developing their players, which is a disaster. Number Two, the

686
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Speaker 10: only thing the owners care about is growing their product

687
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Speaker 10: and growing their revenues. That's the biggest problem. The NFL

688
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 10: is so greedy and after every dollar, and that's what

689
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Speaker 10: they're taught. That's what they know. Protect the shield and

690
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Speaker 10: grow the revenue, and it has ruined what is an

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Speaker 10: incredible sport.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, you into the Super Bowl? Are you into?

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Speaker 3: Are you into? You know the game coming up this

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Speaker 3: week or next week?

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I listen the media. NFL season ends with

696
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Speaker 10: the championship games. The Super Bowl stands out by itself.

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Speaker 10: I cannot stand The week before, I try to watch nothing, okay,

698
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 10: because I just cannot stand it.

699
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Speaker 9: It's so tedious.

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Speaker 10: Okay, the listen. I've been parts of those pregames. I

701
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Speaker 10: understand the money part of it, but the four hour pregame,

702
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Speaker 10: it's so hard for it to be good because it's

703
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Speaker 10: four hours. Okay. We just watched the bus leave this building.

704
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 10: We just watched it leave the hotel. Who can Okay,

705
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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, stuff you would never think about

706
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Speaker 10: in a regular season, you're thinking about with the super Bowl.

707
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Speaker 10: But the game, I give it about a sixty percent

708
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 10: chance to be good. I'm very worried about the New

709
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 10: England offensive line. He's been sacked fifteen times in the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: I think the offensive line is falling apart. I think

711
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Speaker 10: he could really take a beating from the Seattle defense.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Mike Francessa, the Pope, the greatest personality

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Speaker 1: in the history of New York Sports Radio. Eight seven

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Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 1: nine on Fox, Your Calls Next.

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719
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Speaker 3: Is he has something? I'm certain I'm.

721
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Speaker 6: Just carried that Tom Brady said you can go try

722
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 6: out for the Oscars?

723
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Speaker 3: Is that is that him freestyling on you should go for.

724
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Speaker 7: The popularity and all that.

725
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Speaker 4: Like, you know, then welcome to the world of voting.

726
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Speaker 4: And you may as well go, you know, try out

727
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Speaker 4: for the Oscars or whatever and get a big panel

728
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Speaker 4: to tell you if you're good or not.

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Speaker 3: I think that's how that works. Audition. Give me an

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00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: Oscar Taylor put it on the poll.

731
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Speaker 1: Should the President of the United States have better things

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Speaker 1: to do?

733
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Speaker 3: Yes?

734
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Speaker 7: Or no?

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Speaker 3: Let's bring on Trey Wingo from Parts Unknown.

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Speaker 1: I love Dray. Thanks to Mike Francessa for joining us

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00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: here earlier. I'm certain Trey is fresh off a round

738
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Speaker 1: of golf tray.

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Speaker 3: How are you, buddy, Stu?

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Speaker 9: Always a pleasure. I'm headed to the golf course.

741
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Actually, okay, where are you playing today?

742
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Speaker 3: Huh?

743
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Speaker 9: Desert Willow in Rancho Mirage, California.

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Speaker 3: Of course you are. It's better than you, Trey Wingo.

745
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: Nobody Straight Facts, Homie is the podcast wherever you get

746
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: your podcasts.

747
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: We will get to that in just a second. Trey.

748
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: The floor is yours.

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Speaker 1: It is rare where everyone in sports media and really

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Speaker 1: any sports fan anywhere, where we all agree. Where we

751
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: hear something, we hear a bit of news and we

752
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Speaker 1: go what and we all get angry. The floor is yours.

753
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick doesn't make it to the Hall of Fame.

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00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 9: Go yeah. We live in a world where people are

755
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 9: trying to tell us that Bill Belichick isn't the first

756
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 9: ballot Hall of Famer and Shidor Sanders is a pro bowler. Okay,

757
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 9: reality has left the equation and what I'm hopeful because

758
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 9: every almost ninety five to ninety six percent of people

759
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 9: on Twitter agree.

760
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 10: Do you know how hard that is to do?

761
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 9: Like that? That's toxic swamp of X flash Twitter. Everyone's like, yeah,

762
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 9: this is really messed up.

763
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Speaker 7: So my only hope in this there are two things.

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Speaker 9: First of all, that the cowards and that cowards that

765
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 9: didn't vote Bill Belichick in explain yourself. Tell us why

766
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Speaker 9: the coach with the most Super Bowls, most super Bowl appearances,

767
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Speaker 9: the most super Bowl wins, the most playoff appearances, the

768
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Speaker 9: most playoff wins, the second most wins in the history

769
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Speaker 9: of the NFL if he's not a first ballot Hall

770
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Speaker 9: of Famer nobody is. So this was not about performance.

771
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 9: This was punitive.

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Speaker 6: Drake, follow me down this path and see if you

773
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Speaker 6: don't agree that this could be a pr move from

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Speaker 6: the Belichick side. Belichick side, because this is probably the

775
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 6: only thing you can do to him right now to

776
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Speaker 6: make him a sympathetic figure. You've got Tom Brady going

777
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 6: on TV saying Bill is the best. You've got everybody

778
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Speaker 6: ninety seven percent of the X audience agreeing on this.

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00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: Not only does that make him a sympathetic figure, makes

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Speaker 6: his speech better next year?

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Speaker 3: He could joke about waiting a year.

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Speaker 4: I think Bill Belichick ends up winning at the end.

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Speaker 9: Of this, Yes, and he'll get into the Hall of Fame.

784
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 9: But I are you trying Are you trying to sell

785
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 9: me your conspiracy theory?

786
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Speaker 7: That's what I need to know.

787
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I mean I'm not even trying to sell

788
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 6: it that hard, all right, But but Tray Trey, he

789
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 6: is right though, like it is hard for us to,

790
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 6: you know, kind of feel any sort of sympathy for

791
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick until last night, until he didn't get into

792
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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: And Belichick obviously had nothing to do with it. He

794
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: would love to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

795
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: But we do all feel badly right now for well Belichick.

796
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Speaker 7: That is true.

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Speaker 9: And my other hope out of all of this, guys,

798
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Speaker 9: is that we look at the fact that only fifty

799
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Speaker 9: people vote.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 9: I know that Dan for many years had a Baseball vote.

802
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 9: Baseball what like, had eight million voters.

803
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 7: There were too many, right, We can all agree, yes.

804
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 9: Fifty is not enough because if you have fifty and

805
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 9: the clearance is forty, you can get someone who will

806
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 9: persuade of few and be able to turn them. But

807
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Speaker 9: let's say you had one hundred voters, You're not getting

808
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 9: twice that many to turn. Logic comes into the equation

809
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 9: if you expand.

810
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 7: The voting pool.

811
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Speaker 1: Mike Francessa was just on with us and he said,

812
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Speaker 1: Belichick probably upset last night, definitely upset today, but in

813
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Speaker 1: two days he'll get over it.

814
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: Do you agree?

815
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Speaker 1: Because I think being a first ballot Hall of Famer

816
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: means something to that coach in particular, and I don't

817
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: think he's going to get over it.

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00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 10: Yeah.

819
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Speaker 9: I couldn't disagree more with Francessor. On the fan, Bill

820
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 9: Belichick holds a grudge he's one of the reasons he

821
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 9: wants to break the record for the most wins in

822
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Speaker 9: the NFL. Is that Don Shula himself said, well, you know,

823
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 9: there should be some scrutiny and looking at him differently

824
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 9: because of Spygate.

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00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 7: He was like, really go after yourself.

826
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Speaker 9: That was basically the way that he decided he wanted

827
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Speaker 9: to handle this. I don't think he's gonna get over.

828
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Speaker 7: It for a while.

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Speaker 9: He won't let us know that, but he's going to

830
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 9: use this as fuel for his competitive fire for as

831
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Speaker 9: long as he needs it.

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Speaker 5: If Bill Belichick wants to show how great a coach

833
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Speaker 5: he is, it starts August twenty ninth in Ireland against Taylor.

834
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Speaker 4: Yeah, detail in Ireland.

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Speaker 7: Here's what I would say to that. I have no

836
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Speaker 7: idea he's ever going to be a good college coach.

837
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Speaker 9: I know he I mean, let's just be honest about it.

838
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Speaker 7: I have no idea.

839
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Speaker 9: I hope for his sake, I hope so for North Carolina, say,

840
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 9: because I put a lot of money into it, I

841
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 9: hope so.

842
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 7: But I know he's.

843
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 9: One of the greatest coaches in the history of the NFL.

844
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Speaker 9: Even though I have pointed out in the past, you

845
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 9: look at his record without bellot about Brady in New

846
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 9: England and his record in Cleveland, it's not nearly as good.

847
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 9: But this just in every coach will take better players.

848
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Speaker 7: So I don't want you to use that as.

849
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Speaker 10: Find me the coach.

850
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Speaker 9: That wins with awful players.

851
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 7: They don't exist. And you know, people and people.

852
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 9: Want to go with the Spygate to flake Kate thing.

853
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 9: He had nothing to do with the flake Gate.

854
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 10: That was Bill.

855
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Speaker 9: That was Tom Brady and the guy who handled his

856
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 9: football's who Tom nicknamed, wait for it, the deflator. Okay,

857
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 9: Bill had nothing to do with that. And for the

858
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 9: morality police in here like wow, this is okay, fine,

859
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 9: Then how come Ray Lewis got in on his first ballot?

860
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 9: You might want to google what happened to Ray.

861
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: If this is a one year penalty, you know, the

862
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 6: fake one year penalty for Spygate, I'm fine with it.

863
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 6: If I won three extra Super Bowls because of that

864
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 6: one year of Spygate, I'm fine with it.

865
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Speaker 3: I don't really think it matters.

866
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Speaker 6: It's like I said before, they never say first ballot

867
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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame coach such and such.

868
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Speaker 4: They just say Hall of Fame coach. After you get in.

869
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Speaker 10: Well, yes and no.

870
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Speaker 9: I mean like, first ballot is the most hall of fame,

871
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 9: is the most exclusive club in any sport. First ballot

872
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 9: hall of famers are in the most exclusive.

873
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 7: Room in the most exclusive club.

874
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 9: And we're talking about one percenters here, and they all

875
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 9: want that, Like you're not You're not trying to do

876
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 9: all these things and if you don't want to be

877
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 9: in the most exclusive club, so I'm not fine with

878
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 9: it because it's basically double jeopardy. He was penalized first

879
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 9: by Gates, Mike, Mike Shanahan. Basically, if you read Seth

880
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 9: Wickershm's post today, Seth Wickers in one of his books, said, look,

881
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 9: Bill just did it be. We all tried to do this.

882
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 9: Peyton Manning was really good at stealing signs. We're all,

883
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 9: we've all done it. He's just done it better than

884
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Speaker 9: all of us. It's not that big of a deal.

885
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Speaker 9: That was Mike Shanahan.

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Speaker 6: Right after they get in, though, do we ever bring

887
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Speaker 6: up first ballot? It's really only when they get in, No,

888
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Speaker 6: and then if you want to have a separate conversation

889
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Speaker 6: about it, we do.

890
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Speaker 1: But really, Trey, I know the problem here because he's

891
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: an NBA guy doing that. They let anyone into that

892
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and they let him in first ballot.

893
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who it is. It's easy to get

894
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Speaker 1: into that Hall of Fame. And therefore he I mean,

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Speaker 1: mo cheeks.

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Speaker 7: My god, I mean I think he's I think a

897
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 7: beaten horse in high school is in the.

898
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Speaker 1: Basketball straight facts, Homie, Trey Wingo is with us here

899
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Speaker 1: or something out Now, we're gonna play Traylor and A

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Speaker 1: in just a second here, we are going to play

901
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Speaker 1: A tailor has a list of questions for trayor Nay,

902
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: but Trey. I'm wondering if Tom Brady, if he never

903
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: goes to Tampa and never wins a Super Bowl in Tampa,

904
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Speaker 1: is Bill Belichick a Hall of Famer today?

905
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Speaker 9: No, because I think it was I think it was

906
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Speaker 9: the other garbage that that really polluted the room.

907
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Speaker 7: I mean, look, Bill was never friendly with the press.

908
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 9: I mean, I tell you a great story. You know,

909
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 9: the late great Jack bug right, Well, he campaigned for

910
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 9: years try and get Dan Dirdorf into the Hall of Fame,

911
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 9: and eventually he got in there. And one voting meeting,

912
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 9: Jack went on and on talking about how Darriff.

913
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 7: Broke his jaw, but didn't miss a game because.

914
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Speaker 9: He wired it shut then at to play the next

915
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 9: week and continued playing. And someone in the back of

916
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 9: the room because Dan was on Monday Night Football, and

917
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 9: this particular beat writer didn't like the way Dan did

918
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 9: Monday Night Football, yelled out, should have kept his jaw wired.

919
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 9: It's that kind of petty bullshit, which is why Bill

920
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 9: isn't in the Hall of Fame. It has nothing to

921
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 9: do with Tom Brady winning without him.

922
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm assuming they dumped that. Tray's on live

923
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: radio right now. He's accustomed to daping with us. Hunts

924
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: to God's and Company. It's okay. I like when you

925
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: let it fly here. Since we have you here, Trey,

926
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Speaker 1: I want to play some sound. Bomani Jones was with

927
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Speaker 1: us earlier today on Stugott's and Company, the podcast before

928
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: we come on here every day from three until five.

929
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Speaker 1: Check out his podcast The Right Time with Bomani Jones.

930
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: I asked Bomani the quarterback he trusts me in this

931
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

932
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Speaker 3: Here's his answer. I trust neither your thoughts, Dray.

933
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Speaker 7: I think that's a fair assessment.

934
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Speaker 9: I mean, like Drake has played great, but he struggled

935
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 9: albeit against some very good defenses in the postseason. Damn

936
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 9: Darnold flipped the script on us in the NFC Championship game.

937
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Speaker 9: I mean, you want to go out there and try

938
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 9: and change how your perception throw for three hundred and

939
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 9: forty six yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions, go twenty

940
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 9: five out of thirty six. But yeah, with everything on

941
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Speaker 9: the line, I think there's still a big question mark.

942
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 7: Over both of these guys.

943
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Try just switching over to golf for second. Since I

944
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: have you here and you're a big golfer and you're

945
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Speaker 1: head of the playdoff right now, your thoughts on Brooks

946
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: Koepka and I guess now Patrick Reid headed back to

947
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour asylum Seekers and.

948
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Speaker 9: Kevin Ann Hudson Schwafford, who have also come back from

949
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Speaker 9: live listen on these straight Backs only podcasts that we

950
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 9: take December tenth, when the role reports that Brooks was

951
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 9: coming back, we said this, this is what the beginning

952
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 9: of the end looks like for lifgolf. Lyfft took mighty

953
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 9: swings when they had the leverage and they had the hammer,

954
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 9: and they really hit the PGA Tour hard. In twenty

955
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 9: twenty two and twenty twenty three, that leverage has completely

956
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 9: gone the other way. The PGA Tour found a way

957
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 9: to thrive and survive without a lot of those stars,

958
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 9: and now people are realizing if you listen to what

959
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 9: Brooks said in his press conference and what Patrick Reid

960
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 9: said in his statements, they basically are acknowledging this isn't

961
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Speaker 9: a real competition.

962
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Speaker 7: The other things, the lift guard, it was like a.

963
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 9: Fun member guest. But if you want to be the best,

964
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 9: and Brooks has five, there's are only a handful of

965
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 9: golfers in the history of the PGA Tours that have

966
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 9: five majors.

967
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Speaker 7: You want to measure yourself against the best.

968
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Speaker 9: The best way to do that is to be an

969
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 9: active player on the PGA Tour. You know, one of

970
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 9: the best matches I've ever seen in golf anywhere was

971
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Speaker 9: the singles match in the twenty sixteen Ryder Cup between

972
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 9: Patrick Reid and Rory McElroy. It was like a World

973
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 9: Wrestling Federation match. Okay, it was ridiculous. Patrick Reid is

974
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 9: a competit at heart. If you're a competitor at heart,

975
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 9: you want to play against the best, and that's what

976
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 9: we're seeing the money was great, but it didn't scratch

977
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Speaker 9: my itch.

978
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Speaker 1: Before we get to trayjer Nae, promote, please the latest

979
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Speaker 1: episode of Straight Facts Home Meet your podcast.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we just taped with Damian Woody talking about the

981
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 9: Bill Belichick stuff and the similarities between this Patriots team

982
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 9: and the first incarnation of the Patriots. Dyna see that

983
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 9: Damien was a part of. We also just dropped an

984
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Speaker 9: episode talking about everything we just talked about with Patrick

985
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Speaker 9: Red That was also out of my Trey Wingo Golf

986
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Speaker 9: page as well as my Trey Wingo YouTube page. We've

987
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 9: got upcoming guests. Billy Horssel's going to join us, Joel

988
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 9: Damon's going to join us, Jordan Speed's going to join us.

989
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 9: We got a lot of great stuff, So the Straight

990
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 9: Facts Only podcast wherever you get it, but also on

991
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Speaker 9: my YouTube page Trey Wingo and Trey Wingo Golf.

992
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 3: Will you be in San Francisco next week?

993
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 7: Debating?

994
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 9: It depends on how good the weather is when I

995
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 9: get back to Maui tomorrow.

996
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: All right, I had your co hosting on Thursday with me,

997
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: so you know, so I'm in I'm in there.

998
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Speaker 7: It is.

999
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: I'll see him in San Francisco Are you ready for

1000
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: Trey Ornay? Are you ready?

1001
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 7: I'm I'm always ready.

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00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: All right, Taylor, mikey Hey and that lousy microphone.

1003
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 5: Take it away, Trey. The first question a Hall of

1004
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: Fame voter saying he forgot if he voted for the

1005
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 5: greatest coach of all time? Trey or Nay.

1006
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 9: That's a hard nay and it doesn't pass the smell

1007
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 9: test in any way, shape or.

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00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 11: For go ahead, mikey Okay, Trey a fan of any

1009
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 11: team other than the New York Jets, saying their team

1010
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 11: is the Titanic.

1011
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 9: Cleveland makes a great case. So nay, Cleveland makes a great.

1012
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: Case, right, But Buffalo was trying to make a case.

1013
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: We had to make Geary on earlier and he's tried

1014
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: to make a case that Buffalo is the equivalent of

1015
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: the Titanic sinking.

1016
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 9: Well, want a good job of looking like they have

1017
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 9: no plan, and they fired the wrong guy.

1018
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 7: I mean, I'll give them credit for that.

1019
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 5: Mike Golick pitching beef Jerky and how to prevent diabetes

1020
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: at Radio Row Trey Orne.

1021
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 9: All the way, Trey, because it's the most golic thing

1022
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 9: ever and I love.

1023
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 7: Him for it.

1024
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 6: He is promoting both beef jerky and how not diabetes?

1025
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: Yes, same day, just different aisles.

1026
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 9: Yes, go ahead, mikey house.

1027
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, having your house professionally plowed after a snowstorm, Trey

1028
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 8: or nay?

1029
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 9: Oh, I hate that guy completely, Trey all the.

1030
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 7: First of all, it's.

1031
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 9: Easy for me to say that because I don't have

1032
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 9: to do it anymore.

1033
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 7: Secondly, at our.

1034
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 9: Home back in Connecticut, fifteen inches just dropped, and so

1035
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 9: you think I'm shoveling fifteen inches of the hour there.

1036
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 7: That's a hard task.

1037
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 9: So give me the professional every day.

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00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: All right?

1039
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: Straight facts homie, anywhere you get your podcast, Trey Wingo,

1040
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: I will see you next Thursday.

1041
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: It's San Francisco co hosting this radio program with me.

1042
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 7: Apparently I got a book of flights. Sounds great.

1043
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: Thank you for doing this, buddy, hit him straight. We'll

1044
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: talk to you soon, okay

1045
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 7: Mahalo my friends anytime,