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Speaker 2: me Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by a writer,
Speaker 2: a actor, a podcaster of one of my all time
Speaker 2: favorite podcasts, a father, a husband, a stand up comedian,
Speaker 2: a legend, a hero, a superstar, and a god amongst men.
Speaker 2: Please welcome to the show, The Brilliant. It's mister Pis.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, thank you, kindly, thank you. I just
Speaker 3: plugged in my headphones during that kind intro because I realized,
Speaker 3: for tech reasons, I'm so happy to be here. I'm
Speaker 3: a fan I've listened to the pod. Come on, I
Speaker 3: enjoy it. I told you off Mike that everybody secretly
Speaker 3: wants to do it. This is the podcast that people
Speaker 3: play in their head when they're on the on the
Speaker 3: toilet or in the shower and they're like and then
Speaker 3: he says, what's the one that's given you a bonus
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have? And you're like, well, Brett, So it's
Speaker 3: awesome to actually be here. This is my twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Well, Peter homes you. I'm a massive fan. I love
Speaker 2: your podcast. It's one of the few podcasts that I
Speaker 2: listened to on the RAG. And I think the reason
Speaker 2: people want to do my podcast is because it's one
Speaker 2: of the few podcasts you can do where you don't
Speaker 2: have to talk about what you're working on at the moment.
Speaker 2: So what are you working on at the moment?
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: But you do have something? You do have? Yes, tell
Speaker 2: us the big news I do.
Speaker 3: Oh, you don't actually want to The bit is that
Speaker 3: you don't want to know that you don't I know.
Speaker 2: I do, I actually do. I actually was. It was
Speaker 2: half a jug and half setting you up to plug
Speaker 2: about the big, big, exciting well I.
Speaker 3: Am doing I'm about to do a multi cam, which
Speaker 3: you said which really made me happy. You said, when
Speaker 3: a multi cam is done right, you went look out,
Speaker 3: which made me really happy. Which made me happy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I am about to start that, which is exciting
Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons, but maybe towards the top
Speaker 3: is like being with people, acting with people, being on
Speaker 3: a set with like camera operators and sound people and
Speaker 3: script supervisors, like it just sounds like heaven to me.
Speaker 3: When I was doing the other shows I've done, you
Speaker 3: do them long enough, you really do start taking it
Speaker 3: for granted. And now after this time away, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be amongst humans. Sometimes I like to think
Speaker 3: about how many hearts are beating in the room, and
Speaker 3: just like, look at all the hearts beating in this room.
Speaker 3: How many eyes or are kind of floating around taking
Speaker 3: in what they can take in. And I was like,
Speaker 3: we're here together, and I'm super excited to try to
Speaker 3: be funny and have fun. And when you're just acting,
Speaker 3: so you're a writer and an actor, but when you're
Speaker 3: just acting, I find it's much easier to just be
Speaker 3: like kind and sort of zen and like sort of
Speaker 3: float around and be like, well, it's not my decision,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, you have to go like wow,
Speaker 3: we have to beat this joke or write this new scene,
Speaker 3: or like oh they're saying we need to change this.
Speaker 3: I just get to show up, stand where they tell
Speaker 3: me to stand, say what they tell me to say,
Speaker 3: and be a nice person. And I'm excited about that. Wow.
Speaker 2: Well that's interesting actually, because you have been doing a
Speaker 2: lot of writing out teen your own stuff. Do you
Speaker 2: not think you'll be tempted to have a write a
Speaker 2: stand up brain, particularly with a live audience with a mic.
Speaker 2: If something I'm assuming and hoping these writers are really excellent,
Speaker 2: but if anything kind of doesn't quite land, are you're
Speaker 2: going to be like ah, as your stand up brain
Speaker 2: and a kick in and go on top of this.
Speaker 3: I think it will. But you know what was humbling
Speaker 3: when we did the pilot is I was like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, the show's called Smallwood. I'm Tom Smallwood. I'm like,
Speaker 3: look at me, I'm Tom Smallwood. So we do three
Speaker 3: four takes of a scene, and then I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I got one, I got one, I got an alt
Speaker 3: I'm going to try something different on this take, and
Speaker 3: I would do it and it wouldn't work. How not
Speaker 3: funny does it have to be? You're the lead character.
Speaker 3: They've already seen three takes of the way it was written,
Speaker 3: and now you're changing it up. But you'd get a
Speaker 3: laugh just based on the novelty alone, And no one
Speaker 3: was laughing. And I was like, well, it's time to
Speaker 3: eat some shit and take my humble pill for the day.
Speaker 3: But we also didn't.
Speaker 2: That's why they called me smooth Wood.
Speaker 3: I actually thought when I opened it it was going
Speaker 3: to be about a guy with a tiny, tiny wiener,
Speaker 3: and it is, but no one's gonna know that.
Speaker 2: That's just your backstory.
Speaker 3: It's more of a front story, a lower to the front.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is I have a teeny weenie.
Speaker 2: Congrats you LASiS listen. I think from what I hear
Speaker 2: people with teeny weenieds to just work harder, and they
Speaker 2: about more creative because they got They're gonna make up
Speaker 2: for stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's cool, like the Great Pumpkin being number two,
Speaker 3: Perhaps you try harder. I watch so many kids things
Speaker 3: with my daughter, so the references are gonna be a
Speaker 3: lot of Charlie Brown Peanuts movie Not Bad might make
Speaker 3: my list today.
Speaker 2: You put me in a real yes and quandary there
Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't quite know what the
Speaker 2: great pumpkin is, but there's no way I don't want
Speaker 2: to guess added it. Yeah, well, but here we are.
Speaker 2: I won't do it again. Don't ever do a reference
Speaker 2: I don't know again, or you are off the pod.
Speaker 3: That was my favorite my can I say it's a
Speaker 3: plug of you. Yeah, when you did my podcast, I'll
Speaker 3: never forget it. There literally are moments on my podcast
Speaker 3: of agreement, of improvisation, of just two people melding that
Speaker 3: take my breath away. It's one of my favorite things,
Speaker 3: especially when you don't know each other. And the moment
Speaker 3: on your episode is when I said I called someone
Speaker 3: a bell end. It's one of my favorite British insults.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, and you bell ANDed it like you yes,
Speaker 3: and but bell land And when you knew what I
Speaker 3: meant when I said thank you for the bell land,
Speaker 3: I was like friends. Friends. I was like, that's all
Speaker 3: it takes. I just need some good.
Speaker 2: Took each other shoulders, listen to the eyes, and went friends.
Speaker 2: That's friends.
Speaker 3: Did we just become best friends?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It was one of those It was one of those.
Speaker 2: Quick, serious question Now if I may have had the
Speaker 2: motes camp, because I have a thing that I honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by them. I've worked and one in
Speaker 2: England and I genuine you think, you know, they're easy
Speaker 2: to dismiss when they're average or bad, but when they're
Speaker 2: good you think, cheers. Everybody Loves Raymond, like, these are
Speaker 2: some of the greatest shows ever. And the writing, the
Speaker 2: way multicams have to be is they have to be
Speaker 2: banger after banger. Every line has to be a fucking
Speaker 2: banger in a way that most sitcoms at a single
Speaker 2: cam you can get away with less big fucking jokes. However,
Speaker 2: the thing that interests me, and it's early days and
Speaker 2: you haven't done it yet, is how they treat the
Speaker 2: actual audience in the room. I think Everybody Loves Raymond
Speaker 2: was the best at the way the actors reacted to
Speaker 2: the studio audience felt brilliant, because sometimes you watch things
Speaker 2: where the studio oneings are too excited for how you
Speaker 2: feel at home watching it, and so it feels weird.
Speaker 2: It's like a disconnect. You're like, why they're laughing so much?
Speaker 2: It's not that fucking good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost yeah, yeah, yeah, they're left out.
Speaker 2: And there are things like there are some sitcoms out
Speaker 2: I won't name, but there are like some good sitcoms,
Speaker 2: but where it almost feels like they ignore the audience
Speaker 2: the studio on studios laugh and it's almost an annoyance
Speaker 2: to them. It's like, yeah, we're just ignoring it and
Speaker 2: we're getting on into the thing and there's laughter in
Speaker 2: the background. But in Everybody Loves Raymond in particular, I
Speaker 2: think they were the best at this. They would like
Speaker 2: sit in the loufs. They'd get a big laugh and
Speaker 2: it was very subtle, but it was like a twinkle
Speaker 2: in the eye and some acknowledgment from the act is
Speaker 2: like this bit is killing, and they would sit in
Speaker 2: it and it would spread to you at home because
Speaker 2: it was real. It was like a live connection was
Speaker 2: going on rather than two separate things an audience and
Speaker 2: the show. It was like melding them and then you
Speaker 2: felt part of it at home. H thoughts Pete homes.
Speaker 3: It's like when The Lover's Sketch with Will Ferrell and
Speaker 3: Rachel Drouch and Jimmy Fallon is in the hot tub
Speaker 3: as well, and he's breaking. And I remember there was
Speaker 3: a time when people were it was called the nineties.
Speaker 3: I think people were just so mad at Jimmy Fallon
Speaker 3: for laughing. But those are the ones that I remember,
Speaker 3: because I felt like I was in on something, just
Speaker 3: a little bit wicked, little bit alive, electric, like something
Speaker 3: was happening that is funny. And I'm not turning on
Speaker 3: SNL to watch someone do something perfectly, and I'm not
Speaker 3: watching a multicam to have them pretend like there isn't
Speaker 3: an audience there, And that is something very interesting about
Speaker 3: I think the human animal is that works like you
Speaker 3: can be at home, you're not there. It's actually what
Speaker 3: makes films so amazing. You're not there, but you're transported.
Speaker 3: Valin I went and saw Cruella. It was the first
Speaker 3: movie we saw after the pandemic, after we were allowed to.
Speaker 3: I'm not being dismissive of cruel I thought it was
Speaker 3: a really good movie. Great movie, it's great, and it
Speaker 3: was what was out. So we went and saw kind
Speaker 3: of like a kid's movie, even though we're two parents
Speaker 3: kind of desperately wanting a break from kids movies. But
Speaker 3: it ended up being really great. I really loved it.
Speaker 2: And it's great.
Speaker 3: There's something about cinema. Don't get me started. But sitting
Speaker 3: in the dark is a small ego death. You disappear,
Speaker 3: you're in the dark. You can't even yourself, You're gone.
Speaker 3: It's like a drug experience or a vision, let's say
Speaker 3: vision to not exclude people, or a dream. So you vanish.
Speaker 3: Not only do you vanish into the dark, you vanish
Speaker 3: into the audience. There's anonymity in the numbers that you're
Speaker 3: now a group called an audience watching a movie. And
Speaker 3: then that audience vanishes and the lights dimming is kind
Speaker 3: of like a cuge to your your lizard brain to
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, shut the fuck up, you're now gonna
Speaker 3: have these people's thoughts we were talking about, like when
Speaker 3: I go to music concerts, I don't go to a lot,
Speaker 3: as evidence by the fact that I call the music concerts.
Speaker 3: That's an old joke of mine, but it's true. I
Speaker 3: don't need to be sitting there with my own brain
Speaker 3: for two hours, especially if it's not if it's Beyonce,
Speaker 3: that's a spectacle and you're like really into it, but
Speaker 3: if it's just like a band and they're playing nice music,
Speaker 3: I'm too up here. I love Cinema grabs you and goes,
Speaker 3: You're now this person and someone's chasing you. Oh no,
Speaker 3: and you're in love with two people who are you
Speaker 3: gonna peck? And the lights come up and it's like
Speaker 3: coming out of a vision or a drug experience, and
Speaker 3: you go back into your body. And I'm reverent. When
Speaker 3: I leave a movie, I do not start talking about
Speaker 3: what I think about until we're home. I hate the
Speaker 3: people that start going like worshon is good. It's ultimatum,
Speaker 3: but it was better than green Grass's work with Damon
Speaker 3: in the Non Born series. You know, I don't. You're
Speaker 3: supposed to shut the fuck up. You just came back
Speaker 3: from a psychedelic experience. Have some reverence. Even if you
Speaker 3: think you didn't like it, maybe you weren't supposed to
Speaker 3: like it. Good example, Schenectady, New York. You're not supposed
Speaker 3: to like it. You're supposed to feel the monotony and
Speaker 3: the drag and the craving of the ending of the
Speaker 3: movie in the same way that the character is craving death.
Speaker 3: He wants to die, and they're making you feel that.
Speaker 3: So don't go like you like it. Where was optimist
Speaker 3: prime shut the fuck up and like feel maybe something
Speaker 3: uncomfortable or inconvenient. So I also, this is the other
Speaker 3: theory I want to put to you. It looks like
Speaker 3: I've loaded you good. The camera lens is a dilated pupil.
Speaker 3: It's an open eye. So if you've ever been in
Speaker 3: a meditative state or in love, you know when you're
Speaker 3: when you're aroused. I don't mean sexually arouse. When you
Speaker 3: when your nervous system is aroused, your eyes, your pupils
Speaker 3: dilate and you take in so much more. You take
Speaker 3: in so much more light, so much more detail. That's
Speaker 3: what a camera lens is. And then we blow up
Speaker 3: that image huge and let your lenses scan a perfect
Speaker 3: lens shot and pick what to focus on. It is
Speaker 3: a transcendent experience. I didn't plan on saying any of this,
Speaker 3: but that's why I love the movies. You have like
Speaker 3: a vision.
Speaker 2: Peeheimes. The last two minutes of watching you on the
Speaker 2: screen is now my auntswer to traveling fineness. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that was I mean, I I mean, I have to.
Speaker 2: That was so wonderful and you're so right on all
Speaker 2: of it. It's really really, really beautifully put and It
Speaker 2: is entirely what you have said is entirely why I
Speaker 2: always argue against people watching films at home. When people go,
Speaker 2: I can watch it at home, and you go, but
Speaker 2: you don't get that. You don't get the ego death,
Speaker 2: you don't get lost. It's about losing yourself. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: very hard to lose yourself at home. Even if you've
Speaker 2: got a good sound system and you can turn your
Speaker 2: lights down, you're still at home. You've got your phones,
Speaker 2: you've got your kids, you've got your whatever. I agree,
Speaker 2: you have to surrender to it. It's hard to surrender
Speaker 2: at home.
Speaker 3: You get stirred into it. It's like at the end
Speaker 3: the trance is broken and you realize, oh, I'm not
Speaker 3: Jason Bourne, or I'm not whoever it might have been,
Speaker 3: I'm not Mineral Streep's character or whatever it is. And
Speaker 3: we watched Cruella again at home, and I when we
Speaker 3: saw it, the soundtrack is incredible, and when you see
Speaker 3: it in a movie theater, it's blasting the rolling stones,
Speaker 3: it's blasting the rolling stones, and you're just like, lah, like,
Speaker 3: try to not like the rolling Stones when they're that loud.
Speaker 3: And then at home on our little TV, with the
Speaker 3: curtains open, not even dark. It was fine. I could
Speaker 3: see how someone would watch that movie and be like,
Speaker 3: it was fine. But I remember that Mission Impossible, where
Speaker 3: Tom Cruise has to jump into a whirlpool of water
Speaker 3: and he has to go right into the middle of
Speaker 3: it and hold his breath for three minutes. That's what
Speaker 3: going to the movies is is you have to jump
Speaker 3: into that hole. And that's why it's so offensive when
Speaker 3: someone is scrolling through old texts that happened to me
Speaker 3: in a movie, or answering their phone or whatever, is
Speaker 3: because like a comedy show, you are resisting the communal mind.
Speaker 3: You are now not the audience. You are Steve, and
Speaker 3: Steve is answering his phone right now, and you're breaking
Speaker 3: a trance for a lot of people that need it.
Speaker 3: Human beings need escape. And we'll get when we get
Speaker 3: to my answers. The movies that I watch over and
Speaker 3: over are the ways that I process. I just had
Speaker 3: like a weird dinner, and I knew the movies I
Speaker 3: had to watch to help me process and get perspective
Speaker 3: on these strange feelings. So it's therapy. It's learning that
Speaker 3: you're not alone. You know, when you see a movie
Speaker 3: and you just have to go for a drive afterwards,
Speaker 3: because you're just like, just brought you into the moment,
Speaker 3: and it brought you into life, and it reminded you
Speaker 3: of the infinite possibilities that you can move in any direction,
Speaker 3: that you can fall in love, that you can get angry,
Speaker 3: that you can see something you never thought you'd see,
Speaker 3: and you just have to drive. That was me Goodwill
Speaker 3: Hunting nineteen ninety seven. We're just like, let's go for
Speaker 3: a drive. That's the magic. And that's why it's offensive
Speaker 3: when someone's eating their popcorn too loudly.
Speaker 2: Hey Pee, if I ever die, I might leave. You
Speaker 2: did podcasted The Will and you could take Guy.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. You have a thing you're talking about.
Speaker 2: You mentioned it big films, talk about Born out to May,
Speaker 2: you talk about missing possible Carella and stuff. But I also, like,
Speaker 2: I get super mad with people when they're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a film, you can watch it at home. It's like,
Speaker 2: there is no film you can watch home. And I'm
Speaker 2: going to probably keep talking about this film every week
Speaker 2: in this podcast. I saw Mass the other day. Mass.
Speaker 2: Have you seen it?
Speaker 3: I haven't, but someone told me this and they wept.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's four It's essentially four people in a room
Speaker 2: for most of the film. And it's the sort of
Speaker 2: film you some people could say it's like a play,
Speaker 2: and some people would say we could just watch it
Speaker 2: homes just people talking. It is a fucking cinematic experience
Speaker 2: and it is so intense, and it is so it's
Speaker 2: a masterpiece from every angle writing, acting, directing, everything, and
Speaker 2: there's no way you have to surrender to it. You have.
Speaker 2: It's it's as intense, more intense than a fucking Born film.
Speaker 2: Like you're you're you know, I was holding my breath
Speaker 2: the whole time. It's like, this is this is as
Speaker 2: much cinema as Tom Cruise jumping in a waterfall.
Speaker 3: I feel the same way about Frus Nixon, which if
Speaker 3: you rewatch Frost Nixon after the Trump presidency, it gives
Speaker 3: you a whole new perspective on it because I wasn't
Speaker 3: there for Nixon. But you're like, imagine if James Corden
Speaker 3: interviewed Donald Trump. We were like, but it is just
Speaker 3: a play. It is a play made into a film,
Speaker 3: but it has the same stakes. But that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's what theater is theater is like they're there if
Speaker 3: someone's going to be or not to be and they're
Speaker 3: feeling it and you're in the room, there's tension and
Speaker 3: that yanks out the stakes, like it makes you invested
Speaker 3: in it, and that's what the movies are doing in
Speaker 3: the theater setting. There is even like an unspoken frequency
Speaker 3: that I think good audiences are trying to transmit where
Speaker 3: it's like we're gonna we're gonna do this good, right,
Speaker 3: I need this like I need this. That's why the
Speaker 3: commercials at the beginning aren't the right feel. It should
Speaker 3: be all movie related. It should be movie trivia, or
Speaker 3: it should be quiet, or it should be just looking
Speaker 3: at the curtain and you're just like, what's it going
Speaker 3: to be behind that curtain? I don't want someone be like,
Speaker 3: what's up? Fast passed? If you want to see more
Speaker 3: exclusive action only for you, you sign up and scan
Speaker 3: this QRC code now, and I'm just like, fuck you.
Speaker 3: Or they show me we just saw thenew James Bond
Speaker 3: and they were showing scenes from the movie we were
Speaker 3: about to see.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 3: To promote the app or something in the video game
Speaker 3: or something, and I was like, then we're watching the
Speaker 3: movie and I'm like, why is this familiar? And I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's because we have the decency to show up ten
Speaker 3: minutes early and you're punishing me. Nobody needs that. Get
Speaker 3: the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: One thing, just to go back to where this all started,
Speaker 2: just because I don't know if there is an answer
Speaker 2: to it. I'm just curious. On Little would have you,
Speaker 2: small Wood, Small would have the execs, the people making
Speaker 2: it had a discussion at all about how you're going
Speaker 2: to be treating the audience or do you think it's
Speaker 2: something you will just find when you make it.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it remains to be seen. If there's
Speaker 3: going to be an audience peak because of Oh shit, Coco,
Speaker 3: there might be a small audience. So my dream would
Speaker 3: be to do it for a live audience. I had
Speaker 3: some friends, I had some friends that wrote on Friends,
Speaker 3: and they were telling me about how much fun the
Speaker 3: actors would have exactly what you're saying playing to it.
Speaker 3: And I had a little guest role on Malaney, so
Speaker 3: that was a multicam that I got to act in
Speaker 3: and it was so fun being a stand up and
Speaker 3: knowing see stand up is is not just the audience
Speaker 3: listening to the comedian that that's not a very compelling
Speaker 3: art forum. It's actually both the audience is listening to
Speaker 3: the comedian and a good comedian, not all of them,
Speaker 3: but a good comedian is. So I'm going to be
Speaker 3: weird and say, like a lover is listening to the audience,
Speaker 3: you're agreeing on hondip hndip, and we don't mean pence,
Speaker 3: because we mean one hundred percent. And so you leave
Speaker 3: with the material, but you also leave with the sensation
Speaker 3: of someone was so tuned into you that if you
Speaker 3: made a certain kind of silence, they knew what you meant.
Speaker 3: And everyone leaves mutually beneficial, like we all were seen
Speaker 3: and heard today. So when I did Millenia, I remember
Speaker 3: exactly what you're saying, trying to manufacture that twinkle in
Speaker 3: the eye that's sort of like just slight upturned smile,
Speaker 3: like I know you like this, or I know you
Speaker 3: would do this. You're such a you're such a cad
Speaker 3: doing something, doing something I'm just kidding, doing something that
Speaker 3: you know isn't gonna make it, like, isn't gonna make
Speaker 3: it on the show. I love those because it's about
Speaker 3: a tone if you just film a show, who fucking cares.
Speaker 3: But if there's a happening occurring, that's that's really special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing that makes life. And you did
Speaker 2: it very well. In the HBO's crashes, they're capturing capturing live.
Speaker 2: It's so hard to capture live, and the feeling of
Speaker 2: being there is very hot. Anyway, Yeah, I've forgotten to
Speaker 2: tell you something. I've just realized.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, Pete, I'm so sorry. I know you have
Speaker 2: this big gig happening. I should have told you this. No, actually,
Speaker 2: probably should have just sent you an email or something.
Speaker 2: And do you know what, I should have been brave
Speaker 2: and said this earlier, just face to face. I should
Speaker 2: have called it, maybe face timed.
Speaker 3: I don't like where this is.
Speaker 2: No well, and I know you're You've got so much,
Speaker 2: you had so much. I'll just say it, what is it?
Speaker 3: Tell me what it is? It's okay?
Speaker 2: Is it okay? You've died? You're dead dead? You're dead.
Speaker 2: That's not okay, you're dead. I'm dead dead dead? How
Speaker 2: did you die? You don't want that? I do?
Speaker 3: Like if I but what what if there isn't afterlife?
Speaker 3: And you're like, but I was watching subsession. How did
Speaker 3: I Die? I was in a motel, a CD motel,
Speaker 3: and I heard some of this. I heard some stray
Speaker 3: cats in the wall. Like I said, it was a
Speaker 3: CD motel and there was a hole in the wall
Speaker 3: city and I tried to put my arms in to
Speaker 3: rescue the cats. They needed help, but I couldn't get
Speaker 3: in enough. So I took my shirt off and I
Speaker 3: put lotion all over my body, and I tried to
Speaker 3: get in but I still but I still couldn't get
Speaker 3: in enough. So I took I took my pants off,
Speaker 3: and I covered myself in lotion all over my family,
Speaker 3: my crown jews, and I'm all over, and I'm trying
Speaker 3: to wedge into save the cats. But again I can't.
Speaker 3: Now I'm worried I'll go too far in, so I
Speaker 3: put like little clamps on my nipples, and I tie
Speaker 3: the nipple clamps to the lamp in the stay with
Speaker 3: me to the hotel room. And then so I'm going
Speaker 3: in and I start kind of rubbing and I have
Speaker 3: the nipple clamps that I'm trying to get the cats,
Speaker 3: and the friction gives me a boner. And then I
Speaker 3: go on the bed and I die and I have
Speaker 3: an aneurysm, and when I die, I jizz and then
Speaker 3: when they find me it looks like I was just
Speaker 3: having a wank.
Speaker 4: Right, But I'm telling you I was trying to sit.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you asked, because I need I needed
Speaker 4: to clear this.
Speaker 3: I needed to clear this. I was trying to rescue cats,
Speaker 3: not not masturbate in a motel that looks like it
Speaker 3: was designed for masturbating.
Speaker 2: It is. It's annoying how often this death comes up
Speaker 2: on this and the old looks like I wank to death. Death?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Wait, is that it looks like I wank to death
Speaker 3: is a real one, I'm Jacob. That would be so
Speaker 3: funny if everyone was like, I'm afraid that it's gonna
Speaker 3: look like I wanked.
Speaker 2: You're the first, I'm the first. You are the first. Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm honored. I when I'm filing that police report, I'm
Speaker 2: just going to struggle with the nipple clamps, explaining that
Speaker 2: I don't quite get what the thinking was to save
Speaker 2: the cats.
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want I didn't want to get sucked
Speaker 3: into the cat hole. What if it was an alternate
Speaker 3: dimension and I was like I'm using my hands, I'm
Speaker 3: using my knees and my feet. I need something and
Speaker 3: I go ear lobes too risky nips.
Speaker 2: You know what, it was a heroic death. Thank you,
Speaker 2: you did well.
Speaker 3: The cats died. The cats you try the cats are
Speaker 3: They're all dead.
Speaker 2: They're all dead, and you're dead. So what it looks
Speaker 2: like is that you wanked yourself to death, killed some cat.
Speaker 2: Looking at dead cat that's said that that was your kink.
Speaker 3: I can only do it if they are dead cats. No,
Speaker 3: we've done it. We've made it. The worst answer.
Speaker 2: The legacy you're leaving.
Speaker 3: Possibly.
Speaker 2: Do you worry about death?
Speaker 3: Pete Holmes, I think about death a lot. It's part
Speaker 3: of my oh god, my spiritual practice. But it is.
Speaker 3: There's a great Ramdas quotes like when you accept there's
Speaker 3: a okay, I'll start actually with the Dada ching. The
Speaker 3: Dawda ching says he who finds or she who finds
Speaker 3: their way in the morning can gladly go in the evening.
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite little stanzas in the Dadey Ching,
Speaker 3: And I find that to be one of the meanings
Speaker 3: of life is to prepare for death. I don't want
Speaker 3: to go like the science project and go like that
Speaker 3: was do today, Like I would like to be like,
Speaker 3: oh right, We've given this it's due. There's another great
Speaker 3: Chinese proverb that says death and love are the two
Speaker 3: great gifts most people leave unopened meaning. It's not an error.
Speaker 3: It's part of what imbues the whole thing with meaning,
Speaker 3: and it's a clue to kind of how it works
Speaker 3: in permanence, learning to let things go. We say on
Speaker 3: my podcast all the time, would ice cream taste good
Speaker 3: if you knew you lived forever? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I actually think you're eating ice cream and you're kind
Speaker 3: of like I'm going to die and I'm eating ice
Speaker 3: cream right now. This is fucking awesome. But if you
Speaker 3: were just kind of floating in the ether orgasms whenever
Speaker 3: you want, ice cream, whenever you want, whatever, whenever you want,
Speaker 3: I think you would create this. And you know, what's
Speaker 3: good evidence for that that this exists. So that's kind
Speaker 3: of like an interesting way to think of God as
Speaker 3: something that could do whatever it wanted. Alan Watt says,
Speaker 3: if you could have an orgasm that just keeps getting
Speaker 3: better and better and better, how many years would you
Speaker 3: do that for? How many thousands of years? And then
Speaker 3: he goes, how long would you do it before you
Speaker 3: make a button that says something happens? And that just
Speaker 3: changed my life. When I heard him say that, I
Speaker 3: was like, we want some degree of not being in control.
Speaker 3: We want to have mystery to grapple with, we want
Speaker 3: to have lost to grapple with. So yeah, I think
Speaker 3: about it a lot. And because of and we don't
Speaker 3: have to get into this, but because of so psychedelic experiences,
Speaker 3: my death anxiety has shrunk to the size of a pebble.
Speaker 3: And I would say it used to be sort of
Speaker 3: a mount rushmore, sort of like oh no, yeah.
Speaker 2: So you you were masturbating non stop, relentlessly, and then
Speaker 2: Alan what said, at some point the button will appear
Speaker 2: that says something happened, and you stopped. I should get
Speaker 2: on with things.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm glad that's what you took from it.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that's really relentlessly masturbating because there are there's
Speaker 2: ice cream to get Oh my god, what no, no,
Speaker 2: but come.
Speaker 3: On, no, no stop it.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me when you say the psychedelic stuftown
Speaker 2: to go into all of them? But as in have
Speaker 2: you done stuff that's made you think you've seen the
Speaker 2: other side or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yes, and well to summarize, I think I can summarize
Speaker 3: it quickly because we all just want to we want
Speaker 3: to get to the films.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, I forgot. I forgot. That's what you are. Fun.
Speaker 3: The summary is, and you can. I hope you keep this.
Speaker 3: I'll say the short one first and then this lightly
Speaker 3: longer one. Is. People are afraid of the void. Right
Speaker 3: if I could tell you something that I have experiential
Speaker 3: understanding is true. I mean I can still hear my
Speaker 3: brain going like that might not be true, but something
Speaker 3: deeper has occurred, something is transformed. I really know this
Speaker 3: in my bones to be true. Is you are the void.
Speaker 3: So there's no blackness coming to get you. That isn't you,
Speaker 3: That isn't the all and the everything, and that when
Speaker 3: you die, it's like being a spoonful of sugar and
Speaker 3: you're stirred into a glass of iced tea and bread
Speaker 3: is gone. But bread is also there because everything that
Speaker 3: ever was, is, or ever would be, is all there
Speaker 3: at once, and time has stopped. A good metaphor for
Speaker 3: that would be heaven. Oh there are my dead relatives.
Speaker 3: But it's really much crazier and wilder than that, and
Speaker 3: there's nothing to be afraid of because it's you that's
Speaker 3: really If you were dying today, I would say, Brett,
Speaker 3: trust yourself because your consciousness with science and you and
Speaker 3: I would call consciousness that is your truest, deepest self,
Speaker 3: and that consciousness is divine. So you aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 3: What isn't God is being stripped away, and what is
Speaker 3: God remains and that is a fucking You could call
Speaker 3: that the good news. That's like fucking good news. And
Speaker 3: when you worry about the world, I go, I have
Speaker 3: a bit about this. I go, like, it'll be okay,
Speaker 3: and I go, I don't mean us. I don't mean
Speaker 3: humanity like we could be like dinosaurs. I mean who
Speaker 3: you really are is life itself. You are life itself.
Speaker 3: Life itself is looking out your eyes, beating your heart,
Speaker 3: filling your lungs, and it walks around and pretends that
Speaker 3: it's bread. Oh, I'm on a show called de Lasso
Speaker 3: and you go around. That's all just play. That's what
Speaker 3: my daughter's name means. Leela means the play of the universe.
Speaker 3: And the good news is you are something eternal and
Speaker 3: that is consciousness itself. And when you die, like a lobster,
Speaker 3: you're pulled out of its shell. Bread is left behind,
Speaker 3: the red, pinchy part, but the meat goes up and
Speaker 3: in and out and stirred. And bad news is like
Speaker 3: this show you are gone. Good news is you are
Speaker 3: and always.
Speaker 2: Have been everything.
Speaker 3: And if that sounds woo woo, I could point to
Speaker 3: the Old Testament. I could point to Buddhism, Hinduism and
Speaker 3: the New Testament and back that up.
Speaker 2: I love it. It's nearly made me cry.
Speaker 3: Well, that's great because that means that means you heard me.
Speaker 3: It's like really good stuff.
Speaker 2: It's really good stuff. You ended on you are everything,
Speaker 2: but you are you started on You are the void?
Speaker 2: Did not hit me hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's one of my manchas. I would recommend
Speaker 3: meditating and say I am the void. I am the void.
Speaker 3: You are what you're afraid of, and that's absurd. It's afraid.
Speaker 3: You're afraid of yourself. You can trust yourself. It's you.
Speaker 3: It's you, it's you. It's great. It's great.
Speaker 2: Now, So that is it? Who is that guy the philosopher?
Speaker 2: Is it a philosopher? You stare into the void, and
Speaker 2: at some point in the void stares back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've I've heard that too. I can't recall who
Speaker 3: said it.
Speaker 2: But it's like, so you're just saying, yeah, that's looking
Speaker 2: in the mirror, exactly looking in the mirror.
Speaker 3: Well, it's basically the idea that nothing doesn't exist. That's
Speaker 3: a good one. Nothing doesn't exist, like there is no nothing,
Speaker 3: and like I have a joke, it never really works
Speaker 3: that well, but I go, you know, some of my
Speaker 3: atheist friends think you die and you just become nothing
Speaker 3: and going I'm like, in Buddhism, that's called wishful thinking.
Speaker 3: That means liberation. That means you go into the nothing,
Speaker 3: the big nothing, then no thing. You are not an object,
Speaker 3: you are what other traditions would call God. You become
Speaker 3: no thing. You become beyond objectiveness, beyond thingness that is.
Speaker 3: And an atheists are just like, no, by not believing,
Speaker 3: I'll just get bad, They're like, no, you have to
Speaker 3: like go around and around and around until you realize
Speaker 3: that that's what you've always been, or whatever however you
Speaker 3: want to paraphrase it. The other bit that I do
Speaker 3: is we're all stuck with the big band, I say
Speaker 3: thanks for nothing, meaning, it's just like an explosion and
Speaker 3: everything is here, and when you picture it in a
Speaker 3: film way, it's like darkness and then something explodes. But
Speaker 3: it's not darkness, it's nothing. It's nothing. You can't even
Speaker 3: picture nothing like you can't film that. It's nothing. It
Speaker 3: is nothingness. And then for some reason, that nothingness erupts
Speaker 3: into everything. So even if you're and most of my
Speaker 3: friends and I love them dearly, are atheists and anagnostic,
Speaker 3: and I love them dearly. I'm not trying to change
Speaker 3: anyone's mind. I'm saying we're all on the same page. Basically,
Speaker 3: you have nothing erupting into everything. I anthropomorphize that nothing
Speaker 3: energy into something that we call God, a metaphor for
Speaker 3: a mystery, a mystery, something we don't understand, something we
Speaker 3: can't understand. So I call it God, you call it nothing.
Speaker 3: What's the fucking difference? Either way, you have nothing erupting
Speaker 3: into everything, or you have God erupting into everything. You
Speaker 3: have something science can't prove, touch taste, photograph. We have
Speaker 3: no evidence of nothing or something you can't see, touch taste, photograph,
Speaker 3: evidence of God. We're all on the same side. No
Speaker 3: one knows what the fuck is going on here. That's
Speaker 3: why my shit is. Get in touch with the God
Speaker 3: and you get quiet, get still, and recognize that there's something.
Speaker 3: There's isness in you. You are the experience of isness.
Speaker 3: You are isness. It is passing through you. It's how
Speaker 3: you're hearing me right now. That's your consciousness. It's it's hearing,
Speaker 3: it's absorbing, it's coming into you. That is your deepest DNA.
Speaker 3: And that will always be fine. Bad news, you'll go.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I understand, I haven't died, so
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I did have an experience, a
Speaker 3: very very convincing experience, where I was like, don't worry,
Speaker 3: you're a lobster.
Speaker 2: Well I got news, buddy. You are dead. You are good.
Speaker 2: But you are everything I don't say, the void, and
Speaker 2: you are in heaven. You know what heaven is nothing?
Speaker 2: Heaven is nothing. It is everything and it is a void.
Speaker 2: And you yeah, and you are sugar in some green tea,
Speaker 2: some green tea. You didn't, didn't And it's not ie.
Speaker 2: It's hot. It's hot in heaven. Surprise, it's not green tea.
Speaker 2: A little bit of caffeine, not too much it's not
Speaker 2: going to freak you out, just wake you up. Yes,
Speaker 2: you get heaven, just a little little sprinkling the caffeine,
Speaker 2: just a little like oh, because you're a bit jet lgged.
Speaker 2: You've just got there. What is this place? And it's
Speaker 2: filled with your favorite thing? What's your favorite thing.
Speaker 3: In the world. Wow, it's cheesy, but my wife and daughter.
Speaker 2: Your wife and daughter are there. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: There's shiploads of them. It's wall to wall your wife,
Speaker 2: and it's like they've been cloned. It's nice and simultaneously
Speaker 2: a bit scary, like three hundred lilas running you and
Speaker 2: they're like daddy as one and they're like like cover you,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, Pete, it's just like a man.
Speaker 3: And you know my favorite other thing, angel food cake.
Speaker 3: Very on the nose. I like angel food cake.
Speaker 2: Well, the furniture is made of angel food okay, And
Speaker 2: so you can see it, you can eat it, you
Speaker 2: can just sit and it, you can sleep and it's comfortable,
Speaker 2: good texture. Yes, but also if you're bored in bed,
Speaker 2: you can just I'm start eating in your bed. It's great.
Speaker 2: It's no thing and it's great and it's everything. Anyway,
Speaker 2: when you're there everyone that's there that there's mostly clones
Speaker 2: of valid Leila. They are so excited you're there, but
Speaker 2: they want to talk to you about your life. They
Speaker 2: want to talk to you about your life through film,
Speaker 2: because you know what they're like, Lila and Vala upset
Speaker 2: Lila in particular, always talking about film. You're like, shut up, Lela,
Speaker 2: there are other things anyway, They won't know about film.
Speaker 2: They go, what's the first film that you remember seeing,
Speaker 2: Pete Holmes?
Speaker 3: Can I share that? On the document that you sent
Speaker 3: out it says EGY So for example E T do
Speaker 3: you have to use a movie that's also two letters?
Speaker 3: I'm like, what's eg E T? Is this a DNA code?
Speaker 2: Eg I E et A SA P PIV.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you the first film that I remember
Speaker 3: seeing in the theater, and it's nineteen ninety one, which
Speaker 3: means I've definitely seen loads of movies. But the reason
Speaker 3: why this one stands out is because I was in Wuburn, Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: and my dad and my brother and I were going
Speaker 3: to the movies, and like the movie The Squid in
Speaker 3: the Whale, my family really was like two teams.
Speaker 2: It was my brother and my dad and me and
Speaker 2: my mom.
Speaker 3: So I was sort of with the other side, like
Speaker 3: the mama's kid is with dad and brother. So we're
Speaker 3: being men and the choice of what movie to see
Speaker 3: came to me. Somehow. It came to me and I
Speaker 3: was like, we're gonna see Drop Dead Fred. We're gonna
Speaker 3: see it. I am putting down the hammer. We're gonna
Speaker 3: see our dead friend, because an imaginary friend who's like
Speaker 3: funny and I think British and randy and wild. I
Speaker 3: was like, this is gonna be great. And if they
Speaker 3: had enjoyed it, I would have enjoyed it. But they
Speaker 3: hated it. So their hate oozed on to me, and
Speaker 3: then I was filled with the shame, shame of making
Speaker 3: them watch this movie. Even my brother sold me out
Speaker 3: and didn't like Drop Dead Fred. You gotta like Drop
Speaker 3: Dead Fred. He's looking up ladies skirts and stuff. He's wild.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what little kids want.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the elder younger, your brother, he's two years
Speaker 2: older than me, so that's horrible. There's nothing worse than
Speaker 2: sitting with someone who isn't enjoying the film. That's why
Speaker 2: I don't like taking anyone to the cinema. It's not
Speaker 2: worth at risk.
Speaker 3: I've heard you say that on the pot. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: go alone.
Speaker 2: Horrific, Yeah, horrific experience because you also feel that shame
Speaker 2: is so weird. It is like a feeling like you
Speaker 2: made it, like you made this film. Yes, and it's
Speaker 2: not you didn't make you didn't make that film, but
Speaker 2: you feel this shame of like I'm so sorry I
Speaker 2: put you through that.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's absolutely right. I still remember that my dad
Speaker 3: had his hand on his forehead like this, and dude,
Speaker 3: without making it too much like my show, he is
Speaker 3: a sexual imaginary friend, like he is sort of like
Speaker 3: the ID, and like I was like, I swear I
Speaker 3: don't like this stuff because he's like, eh, look at
Speaker 3: that bed's titties, and I'm just coming up. I'm going like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to look at any bird's titties. It
Speaker 3: was horrible. I would have preferred to see the exercise.
Speaker 3: And my dad before that, here's another answer. He was
Speaker 3: watching Goodfellas in the living room and I saw the
Speaker 3: knife scene with the trunk and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't make that face, and you make that face
Speaker 3: for drop dead Fred. I pretended to like Goodfellas for you.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what your dad was looking in the mirror,
Speaker 2: and he didn't like. He didn't like that you could
Speaker 2: see that he was looking at himself. There it was
Speaker 2: dropped at Fred. Oh my god, big. That was a
Speaker 2: big thing. That was kind of there. He felt, if
Speaker 2: you can see him relate to this film, you'll see him.
Speaker 2: So he has to pretend that he's hard, but you're
Speaker 2: shining a mirror to it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Can I say every time I would come in and
Speaker 3: my dad was watching The Sopranos, he would turn it off,
Speaker 3: not to keep me from seeing it, but to keep
Speaker 3: me from seeing him see it. I swear to you,
Speaker 3: I remember it vividly. Tony's looking at a stripper and
Speaker 3: eating like carrots or something. And my dad was like,
Speaker 3: if not's a sad life, and like turned it off.
Speaker 3: I was like, you, you're forty two minutes deep into
Speaker 3: an hour episode. You're gonna turn it off. Because I
Speaker 3: walked in, my dad's still that way, he's not George Carlin,
Speaker 3: and he goes it was great. The first thing he
Speaker 3: said was fuck Oprah, fuck Lance arms Strong, and fuck
Speaker 3: somebody else, and then he went, anyway, there's no need
Speaker 3: for that kind of language, Like he remembers he remembered
Speaker 3: he was my dad. I was so I was. I
Speaker 3: was probably twenty five at the time, and I was like,
Speaker 3: thank you, I'm glad we can relate. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3: And then you were like you don't have to yeah,
Speaker 3: wealthy language. I was like, we were so close to
Speaker 3: being people.
Speaker 2: That's really good. What is the film that scaredy the Mice?
Speaker 2: Do you like being scared py homes?
Speaker 3: Not really? I don't.
Speaker 2: Why is that? Is that because you're a big baby?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't. It's just not for me.
Speaker 3: This isn't my answer. But I remember seeing the movie.
Speaker 3: I walked out of the others when they were like,
Speaker 3: there's a grandma and she has bad breath. I was like, babe,
Speaker 3: I was so happy to walk out. I was just
Speaker 3: it's like, really, it was like Mark Wahlberg and Three Kings.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it is. Remember Mark Wahlberg in Three Kings
Speaker 3: when he gets released from the torture. He's so happy, yes,
Speaker 3: and he's like, Hi, Yes. I was that high because
Speaker 3: I didn't have to ever see that grandma. I still haven't.
Speaker 3: And then there's the one where the people knock on
Speaker 3: the door. It's lived Tyler is The Strangers, The Strangers,
Speaker 3: and I watched all of the Strangers, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I wish I hadn't seen that anytime I'm home alone
Speaker 3: or in the woods. The woods, one of God's beautiful gifts,
Speaker 3: the woods, the Little Cabin in the woods.
Speaker 2: Never in a film, not anymore, not anymore. Never did
Speaker 2: you watch it too? No, I'm saying woods are never
Speaker 2: good in a film. No, they're never good.
Speaker 3: No. The one that scared me the most is embarrassing,
Speaker 3: because you'll never have gotten this, I promise. The Fourth Kind.
Speaker 3: And I'm going to tell you why. The Fourth Kind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, alien film from about ten years ago.
Speaker 3: I think it was more than ten years ago because
Speaker 3: I was in New York. Well wait, yep it was.
Speaker 3: It was probably fifteen years ago, so I was old
Speaker 3: enough to know better. But as I've already said, I
Speaker 3: don't really see a lot of horror movies, and the
Speaker 3: conceit of the Fourth Kind is and I don't mind
Speaker 3: ruining it because you can. It's I don't think it's
Speaker 3: like a good I don't know. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: like I never hear anyone talking about the Fourth Kind.
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way the Fourth Kind tells you
Speaker 3: that it's real. It's telling you this is found footage.
Speaker 3: It's using like body cams, it's using security footage, it's
Speaker 3: using like cruiser footage, and it's shot in a way
Speaker 3: that you'd think it was a documentary. And there's re enactments,
Speaker 3: but like most of it is like VHS footage, and
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed it worked. I thought it was real because
Speaker 3: Brett at that age, I was like, they can't lie,
Speaker 3: they can't lie to us. It open with Mira Servino
Speaker 3: is that her name? And she's like, Hi, I'm actress,
Speaker 3: Mira Sorvino, like talking down the lens, going like this
Speaker 3: is not a movie. This is real, and I'm sitting
Speaker 3: there going it is. Mio Sorvino said, it's real. And
Speaker 3: the premise of the movie is not only are you
Speaker 3: going to be abducted, and it shows that you probably
Speaker 3: already have been abducted dozens of times and you don't remember.
Speaker 3: That's what the fourth kind is. The fourth kind is
Speaker 3: an abduction. So I had a roommate, but I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, sleeping alone, and every night after that movie,
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like these weird Samerians speaking aliens were
Speaker 3: going to come in and take me. And then someone
Speaker 3: told me it was fake and they made fun of
Speaker 3: me mercilessly, but I didn't even care. It was like
Speaker 3: five comedians were ripping into me for being a huge idiot,
Speaker 3: and all I was thinking. I mean, they were being
Speaker 3: really vicious, and I was smiling ear to ear because
Speaker 3: I was like, thank God, that wasn't real. That's the
Speaker 3: most scared. That's the most scared.
Speaker 2: I was. That's nice. I want to see that film.
Speaker 2: I want to say, a film with Miry Savena saying hello,
Speaker 2: I'm Mary Savena and what you're about to watch is real.
Speaker 3: Well that you'd only have to watch the trailer. I
Speaker 3: believe that's the trailer as well. Looking back, there are parts.
Speaker 3: I mean, it would never trick me now knowing what
Speaker 3: we know about movies and stuff, but like there's a
Speaker 3: suicide in it. Someone shoots himself and they blur it
Speaker 3: and you're like, why would they blur it if it
Speaker 3: was it was like they just show it and they
Speaker 3: blur like out of respect for the dead. It's like pixelated,
Speaker 3: Like they did a good job. To me.
Speaker 2: I like that, what's the film that made you cry
Speaker 2: the mice and now you a crier? Do I need
Speaker 2: to ask?
Speaker 3: Film is one of the ways that I cry. It's
Speaker 3: one of the things I like about it is that
Speaker 3: it helps me to cry. Moonlight. I can't not cry
Speaker 3: the entire movie. I cry the entire movie without boring you.
Speaker 3: I think that movie has like a divine second meaning,
Speaker 3: which is we all know that there's something that loves
Speaker 3: us and that we love it, and we sort of
Speaker 3: have to, like we resist it. We become strong. Chiron
Speaker 3: becomes strong and he puts in his grills and he
Speaker 3: gets his gun. No one's ever going to hurt him again.
Speaker 3: And that's our personalities. We build up these personalities. But truth,
Speaker 3: in his case that he's a homosexual, Truth is chasing you.
Speaker 3: God initiates it, beauty and mystery initiates it. If you're
Speaker 3: called to meditation or prayer, you're always seconding, seconding the motion.
Speaker 3: And that scene at the end where he's cooking for him,
Speaker 3: that's love. We don't have to say it's God. Love
Speaker 3: is seducing you. Love is cooking for you and sprinkling
Speaker 3: the cilantro on the rice. Why does that scene matter
Speaker 3: so much? Why is the film work. When you never
Speaker 3: see them make love, you think it's gonna end in
Speaker 3: like a sex scene. You don't need the sex scene.
Speaker 3: The sex scene is him cooking. The sex scene is
Speaker 3: him looking at him and knowing him and touching his hand.
Speaker 3: And that is my belief. Is that truth, Your truth,
Speaker 3: on the psychological level and also on a cosmic level,
Speaker 3: is putting the good sheets on the bed. It wants you.
Speaker 3: It's something that wants you. It's not a tormentor. It's
Speaker 3: not going to kick you into hell for being who
Speaker 3: you were. It's not like that. It wants to merge
Speaker 3: with you. It wants to make love with you, basically,
Speaker 3: and that's what that movie is. So I lose it.
Speaker 3: But then also just on the surface level, when he
Speaker 3: asks what is a I think it's the F word.
Speaker 3: He says, what does that word mean? Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 3: losing it. I'm losing it. So that movie is definitely
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 2: That's a very very very good answer.
Speaker 3: I cry at most films the one I remember, and
Speaker 3: that's true. If my heart is open, I'll find something
Speaker 3: to cry at in almost any movie. But Dead at
Speaker 3: Society is the first one because it was Burlington, Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: and I'm weeping at O captain, my captain, and the
Speaker 3: woman in front of me, this birdie twat turned around
Speaker 3: and looked at me with shame. She gave me the
Speaker 3: shame look like, get a hold of yourself. And I
Speaker 3: wish I had her home. I wish I had her
Speaker 3: home address, just so I could send her a vase
Speaker 3: full of dog shits, like who's shames. I must have
Speaker 3: been eleven twelve. Her look seemed to say, you're too
Speaker 3: young to even get this. I'm like, this movie's about
Speaker 3: people my age. I get this better than you get it,
Speaker 3: like it was a rough one. I'm sorry, and Matrix revolutions.
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: So many shame visits to the cinemas.
Speaker 3: I know what is?
Speaker 2: What is the film that you love? It is not
Speaker 2: critically acclaimed, most people don't like it, but you think
Speaker 2: those people are wrong and dumb and you hate them.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I should have looked it up, but
Speaker 3: I'm assuming the movie Lucy is not critically acclaimed.
Speaker 2: I love Lucy, and you're right, Lucy is a mixed
Speaker 2: bag and a lot I know a lot of people
Speaker 2: that hate Lucy and their ideots, and they're dumb.
Speaker 3: Thank you, right, Lucy? So what all the sort of
Speaker 3: like whatever these sidebars, these little spiritual sidebars I have.
Speaker 3: That's what that movie is. When you realize that the
Speaker 3: sap in a tree is moving up, which it is,
Speaker 3: it moves against gravity. When you realize that a spring
Speaker 3: is moving up a mountain to come down the mountain
Speaker 3: like these insane world we live in. When she talks
Speaker 3: about remembering the taste of her mother's milk, you just
Speaker 3: that movie is imbued. I'm gonna say imbued again with
Speaker 3: so much comfort and like if we knew more, we
Speaker 3: would worry less. That's like the point of that movie.
Speaker 3: And I just love watching Scarlett Johansson be so calm.
Speaker 3: You have all the fun of like a like what
Speaker 3: was that? No movies like Nobody, the ass kicking guy
Speaker 3: who never gets shot, you know nobody, But you get
Speaker 3: that with like metaphysical sprinklings, and I think a stylized
Speaker 3: direction that is really effective.
Speaker 2: I really like that film you get do you know
Speaker 2: what you get ten points for that? That's the first
Speaker 2: answer you've given it scored weirdly, what is the what
Speaker 2: is the film that you used to love? You loved
Speaker 2: it very much? And then you've watched it recently and
Speaker 2: you don't love it anymore, And that might be completely
Speaker 2: personal reasons, or something's changed in your life. What is
Speaker 2: that film?
Speaker 3: And why I'm glad you said it could be personal reasons,
Speaker 3: because I think Field of Dreams may still be a
Speaker 3: good movie. But here's what I just tried to rewatch it.
Speaker 3: Here's what I didn't like about it, or what felt
Speaker 3: very nineties about it. Right, if you made a movie
Speaker 3: now about a guy who makes a baseball field and
Speaker 3: ghosts show up. When those goes show up, the first
Speaker 3: thing a modern twenty twenty one audience would want to
Speaker 3: know is like, how did you get here? What it?
Speaker 3: Where were you? Where have you been? What do you
Speaker 3: think is happening? Like, how do we replicate it? Is
Speaker 3: it science? Is this a wormhole? Is there a fold
Speaker 3: in the dimensions? And in Field of Dreams it builds
Speaker 3: a baseball field. Yeah, First of all, it doesn't show
Speaker 3: him looking up how the dimensions of the baseball field.
Speaker 3: He just knows how to do it. We would want
Speaker 3: the Google scene.
Speaker 2: Right, you're missing You're like, there's not enough admit.
Speaker 3: I want it to feel I want some admin.
Speaker 2: Is that a real term it is now.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was a writer's dream term.
Speaker 3: I want more pipe of how we did. But in
Speaker 3: the movie, he makes the field. Then there's sort of
Speaker 3: an arbitrary waiting where it's Christmas and he's literally looking
Speaker 3: out the window and he's like, shoeless Joe, wait yet, buddy,
Speaker 3: And you'd think something might happen in his life or
Speaker 3: in him that would change, that would make the ghost
Speaker 3: show up. But it really was just waiting, like it
Speaker 3: was just like, just wait, maybe that's fine. Shoeless Joe
Speaker 3: does show up. It's like one of those trailers you
Speaker 3: could cut as a horror trailer. Yeah, because he built
Speaker 3: a field and then a ghost shows up. And when
Speaker 3: the ghost shows up, the wife character says, this is
Speaker 3: what she says Brett to the arrival of a ghost
Speaker 3: and even worse as predicted from a voice, So like,
Speaker 3: this is now confirmed, is real? Your husband is communicating
Speaker 3: with the other side and there's a ghoul on your lawn.
Speaker 3: She says, I'll put on some coffee. Then he goes
Speaker 3: out and all they do is play baseball. He just
Speaker 3: starts pitching baseballs to him. And the way that the
Speaker 3: movie had dresses. The absurdity of what's happening is Kevin Costner,
Speaker 3: our parents, Brendan Fraser. Kevin Costner is pitching the ball
Speaker 3: and he goes, I'm pitching to shoeless Joe Jackson. That's
Speaker 3: how they address it. And all I'm saying, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying it's a bad movie. I'm saying what makes it
Speaker 3: feel dated and what made me not enjoy it was
Speaker 3: that it's not doing what modern films do, which is
Speaker 3: when something supernatural happens, they play it for real. In
Speaker 3: this movie, they were like, look, we gotta get to
Speaker 3: the better stuff. We can't have a thirty minute sequence
Speaker 3: of him being like, wait, do you remember how you
Speaker 3: got here? Like why are you the age you were
Speaker 3: when you played baseball not the age you were when
Speaker 3: you died? Like are you frightened? And she just got
Speaker 3: to put coffee on. She should have said, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here. There's a ghost.
Speaker 2: Peyton Holmes, I've never done this before. I am taking
Speaker 2: away the ten points I gave you. Oh, ten points
Speaker 2: are being removed. Very I'm very you know what. I'm
Speaker 2: not angry, I'm disappointed, and I'll tell you why. Because
Speaker 2: when you were describing it to me, it gave me shivers.
Speaker 2: And I'm shocked that you find it this way because
Speaker 2: the film, what you just described to me and what
Speaker 2: I remember of it is all the divine, is all
Speaker 2: the things. The reason she says, I'll put coffee on,
Speaker 2: the reason he doesn't ask questions is because he's had
Speaker 2: this voice. He's had this vision, he's had this thing.
Speaker 2: It's like a dream. If he pushes it, he might
Speaker 2: wake up and it all goes away. They're all living
Speaker 2: in this fucking divine space where it's like they believe
Speaker 2: in this thing, but they're also are we mad to
Speaker 2: believe in this thing? And then the thing starts happening
Speaker 2: and it's like, of course they don't poke it and
Speaker 2: ask questions because it might all go away. They might
Speaker 2: are we insane. It's like, I'll put coffee on. You
Speaker 2: go out there and you play with him. It's like,
Speaker 2: don't ask questions. Like he's a baseball player and he's
Speaker 2: coming and thinking, he looks freaked out. No one knows
Speaker 2: what the fuck's going on. The less fucking just keep it,
Speaker 2: keep it safe over here. And it's like a dream
Speaker 2: that's always like a dream. If we go where, if
Speaker 2: we are something, you're gonna, You're gonna get it. He's
Speaker 2: gonna guy.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm not married to my opinion because everything you
Speaker 3: said made perfect sense to me. And I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that to try and get those ten points back, although
Speaker 3: I would. I also want to say that it's one
Speaker 3: of those movies that my dad likes, so I was
Speaker 3: watching it with a chip on my shoulder, so that
Speaker 3: could be it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm gonna don't know you could. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give you three points back for acknowledging that, and I'm sorry, Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't like to be compatutive.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm you know what, Now, I'm gonna push back.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go put coffee on. I'm gonna Can we
Speaker 5: do it again? Brett can? I'm the director? Now, can
Speaker 5: we just do one where you have a moment where.
Speaker 3: You're like and someone goes no, no, no, no, don't don't
Speaker 3: overthink it. I'm gonna put coffee on.
Speaker 2: Just just just just go see him, Just.
Speaker 3: Go out there, just go see him a little bit
Speaker 3: of the holy fun.
Speaker 2: What do what do I do? Just just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't go on. I heard a voice another I'm
Speaker 3: just saying that is the more modern way of shooting
Speaker 3: that same scene with the same script.
Speaker 2: It's happening in her eyes, in Amy Madigan's eye, in
Speaker 2: her eyes, she's going, fuck it, Now, what do I do?
Speaker 2: Some coffee on? She's doing it? So there, pay come on.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 2: You were watching it at home, you went on a
Speaker 2: big swore. You watch it at the cinema, you'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm here in the dream.
Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right. I'm not just agreeing to
Speaker 3: be agreeable. I'm gonna give you one worse. I watched
Speaker 3: it in the sauna and sauna movies. I have very low,
Speaker 3: isn't it? Fifty minutes right? Five zero some watching movies
Speaker 3: and two chunks.
Speaker 2: You know, I love health and shiit. What's the benefit
Speaker 2: of sitting at this soona for fifty minutes?
Speaker 3: I love that I get to tell you something that
Speaker 3: you don't know about fitness.
Speaker 2: I do. I'll do ice stuff. I don't do hot stuff.
Speaker 3: I also, well, I do that and then I get
Speaker 3: into a cold share. It'll get your get you a
Speaker 3: nice and high. It's proper high.
Speaker 2: What's happening in the fifty minutes in the SAWNA.
Speaker 3: Well, I believe it's something like six hundred calories an hour.
Speaker 2: So it's like a workout where you're just sitting still.
Speaker 3: And watching a movie and your heart. It's really hard
Speaker 3: to stay in it's and but if you can get
Speaker 3: lost in a movie, it's easier to sit there. So
Speaker 3: it's really good for your heart. It's really good for toxins,
Speaker 3: things like mercury, things you want to get out of you.
Speaker 3: That's really helpful. Plus, if you're into wu wu stuff,
Speaker 3: if you have an ailment, chances are someone's going to
Speaker 3: be like getting it in for itsana, So I just
Speaker 3: get into one before anything's going on. But being really
Speaker 3: hot and then being really cold just makes me feel high.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: So sorry, we argue, that's our first argument. Tell me this,
Speaker 2: what is the film?
Speaker 3: Well, they feel safe?
Speaker 2: No, I'm never I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: What I said Field of Dreams, Val was like, it's
Speaker 3: going to be controversial.
Speaker 2: She knew he's not gonna like that. She knew he's
Speaker 2: not gonna like that. Yeah, what is the film that
Speaker 2: means the most to you? Not necessarily the film itself
Speaker 2: is any good, but the experience you had around seeing
Speaker 2: the film. That will always make it special to you.
Speaker 3: Okay, I do have two answers, but I'm going to
Speaker 3: give you one and then if you want the other one,
Speaker 3: you can have it, because I want to respect the format.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: When I was a waiter at Bennigan's, which makes immediate
Speaker 3: sense if you think about my face, but you can
Speaker 3: just see it. I was a waiter at Bennigan's. You
Speaker 3: used to get two holidays off. I believe it was
Speaker 3: New Year's, Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Year's Day. New Year's New Year'
Speaker 3: Day was two and you had to work two of
Speaker 3: them and you could get two of them off. So
Speaker 3: I was I asked for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Let's say
Speaker 3: good choices because I don't really like New Year's. Then
Speaker 3: Jim gaff again, I had never met him. So I'm
Speaker 3: a young comedian and Jim Gaffigan is like looking for
Speaker 3: an opener. And my friend Dan Kaufman, another comedian, was like,
Speaker 3: can you open for Jim Gaffigan the weekend of New
Speaker 3: Year's at the Cleveland Improv? And I was like, of course,
Speaker 3: I'm only working at Vannigins. I was grateful for the job.
Speaker 3: I needed the job. But I'm trying to become a comedian,
Speaker 3: so I said yes, and then I called Bennigan's and
Speaker 3: my manager's name was Matt Neary, and I think I
Speaker 3: left a message saying like, I mean, however, sweet, I
Speaker 3: am now times a million, just a sweet little baby boy,
Speaker 3: soft and clammy hand and ruddy cheeked, and I'm just
Speaker 3: calling and I'm like, Hi, I'm convinced I'm going to
Speaker 3: get fired. I'm saying, I know I already had these
Speaker 3: dates off, but I need to get New Year's off
Speaker 3: as well because it was coming up. And I'm so sorry,
Speaker 3: I understand. I probably was like I understand if this
Speaker 3: doesn't work, and panicking, and I left the message, and
Speaker 3: then my wife at the time, my ex wife, and
Speaker 3: I went and saw Lord of the Rings the Two Towers.
Speaker 3: And when I tell you that the Lord of the
Speaker 3: Rings the Two Towers was about a comedian taking a
Speaker 3: weekend and thinking he was going to be fired for it.
Speaker 3: The movie Lord of the Rings the Two Towers was
Speaker 3: about a comedian in Chicago who worked at Bennegan's who
Speaker 3: thought he might get fired. Every orc was just the
Speaker 3: impending loss of financial security and my job and what
Speaker 3: a fool I was, and the eye of Sauron was like,
Speaker 3: you were giving up a stable gig to do this.
Speaker 3: You probably made one hundred and fifty dollars at the
Speaker 3: Cleveland Improv. You're gonna lose money driving there, like it's
Speaker 3: a waste. You're an idiot the whole movie. And I
Speaker 3: have that ticket stub. I have a frame in the house.
Speaker 3: It's the first ten dollars I ever made from stand
Speaker 3: up And in the frame, not behind the glass, but
Speaker 3: tucked in the frame is the movie ticket for the
Speaker 3: Two Towers because it was my little fro Dos hero's
Speaker 3: journey going like as silly as it is, and it is,
Speaker 3: I was doing something. I was really scared. I thought
Speaker 3: I was gonna lose my job, and he did not
Speaker 3: fire me. And that's why I thanked Matt Neary on
Speaker 3: my first album, Like if you read the liner notes,
Speaker 3: I thank that because he didn't fire me and it
Speaker 3: all worked out.
Speaker 2: That's a nice Pete. Isn't that a funniest story of
Speaker 2: you going to the cinema. I not feeling shame. I
Speaker 2: really liked it.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah. The other one is Shakespeare in Love
Speaker 3: because that's the first movie I made out with somebody
Speaker 3: and it was me and and the woman first time ever,
Speaker 3: and there's boobies on the screen and make It's like,
Speaker 3: it's like, what is happening? It's as close. I was
Speaker 3: like a three way. There's Gwyneth and I'm actually making
Speaker 3: out with someone here and my friend Nick and I
Speaker 3: had dinner with Nick not that long ago, and we
Speaker 3: laughed about this. He was sitting next to me and
Speaker 3: I heard him go, what do I do? Like he didn't.
Speaker 3: He was so uncomfortable there was there was someone with Nick.
Speaker 3: He just was like, I don't know what to do
Speaker 3: because we were going at it. We were shakes that
Speaker 3: it was your first time, first time making out in
Speaker 3: a movie? Yeah? Nice? My first date was the movie
Speaker 3: I remember that. Jeffrey Row Yeah, not as sexy.
Speaker 2: No, look at him having a breakdown. Kiss me. What's
Speaker 2: what's the film you must relate to?
Speaker 3: This is gonna make you laugh, I think, because it's
Speaker 3: an absurd answer. But Brett, the film I most relate
Speaker 3: to is the Born trilogy. And I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 2: I love it. Do you You don't need to, You
Speaker 2: don't need to, you get it, but you I actually
Speaker 2: think I do but please tell me.
Speaker 3: Val was like, he's gonna laugh in your face. That
Speaker 3: this like soft, amorphous, loud. Hillary swank Mouth comedian relates
Speaker 3: to Jason Bourne like Matt Damon peak, Damon kicking ass.
Speaker 3: Here's here's why. Because Jason Bourne is a movie about
Speaker 3: getting away from your family. It's about a lot of things,
Speaker 3: but it's about getting away from your family. So he
Speaker 3: is Ray is traumatized by the government. He's traumatized by them.
Speaker 3: And I love my family. They did their best. And
Speaker 3: there's trauma in any childhood. There's it's just heavy, it's
Speaker 3: just a lot. There's grown ups like Greek gods in
Speaker 3: your house. They're strange and they yell, and there's weird feelings.
Speaker 3: So there's that's you getting dunk. Can you commit to this?
Speaker 3: Can you commit to this program? I can't dunk. I can't.
Speaker 3: Can you commit to this program? Even sounds like my dad,
Speaker 3: I can't dunk. So he's trained his trauma does to
Speaker 3: what a lot of people. Trauma can often lead to skills.
Speaker 3: I'm a highly sensitive person. Again, I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: I love my parents. I'm only gonna say that that
Speaker 3: one more time. But because they were unpredictable people. I
Speaker 3: learned to be a finely tuned instrument. I could see
Speaker 3: a fight coming a mile away to where I got
Speaker 3: my sense of humor, and I could divert it. I
Speaker 3: spoke Dad, I spoke Mom, I spoke my brother. No
Speaker 3: one else spoke anyone else. I really believe that I
Speaker 3: was interpreting. I was keeping the peace. That's Jason Bourn going.
Speaker 3: I know I can run for forty five minutes at
Speaker 3: this altitude. I know the best place to find a
Speaker 3: gun is in the cabin of that truck. That's the
Speaker 3: result of trauma. His trauma was training, but a lot
Speaker 3: of us, our radioactive spider bite is suffering is some
Speaker 3: sort of feeling of being out of control, especially when
Speaker 3: you were small.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So the rest of the movies is him trying to
Speaker 3: get away from his family as they chase him, using
Speaker 3: the skills he got from being with them to avoid them.
Speaker 3: So it's just people in a room with computers going
Speaker 3: where is he? We gotta get him? That's my mom going,
Speaker 3: why don't you call on Sunday? Why are you coming
Speaker 3: home for Thanksgiving? Why are you coming home for Christmas?
Speaker 3: And I'm duck and I'm doing comfortable. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: build boundaries, I'm trying to meet people, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: have a life on my own. And then at the
Speaker 3: end he realizes the only way out is through and
Speaker 3: he goes back and face this is his family. He
Speaker 3: goes back to the scene of his trauma, now having
Speaker 3: had great love, which is Marie. So he was transformed
Speaker 3: by a great love. He was loved for who he
Speaker 3: grew up to be, not who people see him as
Speaker 3: he was as a child. He's loved for who he
Speaker 3: grew up to be, and that love transforms him and
Speaker 3: empowers him to go back to his father, who is
Speaker 3: like my father, and he doesn't kill him. That's the point.
Speaker 3: He doesn't kill him. You have to forgive reality, and
Speaker 3: you have to forgive your tormentors. They were doing what
Speaker 3: they thought was best, or what they thought they needed
Speaker 3: to do to get love, to get security, or whatever
Speaker 3: it might be. And he doesn't kill him. That is
Speaker 3: the point. We go back to our families and we
Speaker 3: forgive them.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's what I could it now, Tomatom That
Speaker 2: is very good. That is a very good answer. There's
Speaker 2: nowhere I was gonna laugh in your face for that
Speaker 2: all made sense to me. Good speaking of peak Diamon,
Speaker 2: what's the sexiest film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: Pete Hipes, I can't believe you said that, because my
Speaker 3: sexiest film is a damon film, The Masian, the Martian.
Speaker 3: I can't come without dead cats are red sand I
Speaker 3: need one or the other. I need one or the other. Look,
Speaker 3: here's my first answer. Then we'll get to the damon answer.
Speaker 3: And I hope you appreciate it as a comedy man.
Speaker 3: As a comedian, I listen to this podcast, I hear
Speaker 3: people say, hey to Mama Tombian. I hear people saying
Speaker 3: fucking all on the nose, sexy shit, and I'm just
Speaker 3: going like, get the fuck out of here. Blue is
Speaker 3: the warmest color, Like get out of here. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that movie doesn't turn me on. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: to me, my weird answer and it goes back to
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, is comedy. Nudity will always
Speaker 3: have a special place interesting in my bonus because when
Speaker 3: I watch Youtumama Tambien, I'm like, I don't have a
Speaker 3: best friend. I'm not like a good looking, reckless haired
Speaker 3: boy who's good at soccer, and like is charming and
Speaker 3: drinks tequila and like, I have no entry point to that.
Speaker 3: I have no entry point to blue is the warmest color.
Speaker 3: I'm no one. I am no one in that movie.
Speaker 3: Show me that movie. Where's the guy that's going like, hello, ladies,
Speaker 3: like trying too hard, boob shadow, rubber bands on his braces,
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of here. I didn't have a
Speaker 3: best friend like that, and I certainly didn't have a
Speaker 3: three way with a gorgeous older woman. That is not reality.
Speaker 3: My closest way to sex and sexuality was comedy, not
Speaker 3: only because it's how I saw it. Scrooged, I think
Speaker 3: her nipples are showing. Excuse me, do you remember that?
Speaker 2: And Scrooged, I don't remember that, but I'm saying you're wrong.
Speaker 3: I remember it. No, if it's not in there.
Speaker 2: If I remembered it, it's been since it.
Speaker 3: It's in the third act, meaning it's towards the end.
Speaker 3: And Bill Murray, so there's me. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 3: Bill Murray, but as a kid, I'm like, there's Bill
Speaker 3: Murray and there's a beautiful woman and they bring her
Speaker 3: up and it's like a joke. How is this a joke?
Speaker 3: It's just bonert Town. They're going, look at her outfit.
Speaker 3: Her nipples are showing. That's the joke. I'm at home going.
Speaker 3: Those are probably some of the first boobs I ever
Speaker 3: saw in my life. Not only are they boobs, it's
Speaker 3: sort of like a strip tea is it's like kind
Speaker 3: of visible. That's like like driving me crazy. Kentucky Fried
Speaker 3: movie with the boobs on the shower glass naked gun
Speaker 3: when he's on the ledge and he reaches over. It's
Speaker 3: not exactly an appropriate joke. It doesn't age well, but
Speaker 3: it was a bucksome woman. These are These are the
Speaker 3: airplane during the turbulence, just boobies run by. So for
Speaker 3: the weirdest answer, but the most honest answer is comedy.
Speaker 3: Nudity still has like a neural pathway in my brain
Speaker 3: where I'm like, oh my god, because everybody's having a
Speaker 3: good time, Like I can see them like discussing the
Speaker 3: gag and the woman's like in my fantasy is like
Speaker 3: in on it and enjoying it, and even that feels
Speaker 3: fun to me. But I could see myself in that situation.
Speaker 3: I could be Bill Murray. I'm not a beautiful Latin
Speaker 3: boy playing soccer with a with a very voluptuous woman.
Speaker 3: I am like a wise, cracking, sort of uncomfortable guy.
Speaker 3: And Comedy Boobs were like the first boobs that I saw.
Speaker 2: Comedy Boobs is an excellent thank you to give you
Speaker 2: seven points. You're back on ten. All right, let's get
Speaker 2: to let's let's get to the sub category Traveling Bone
Speaker 2: is worry Guy Dunes film you found arousing you went't
Speaker 2: sure you should?
Speaker 3: Cats, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: They're all alive in that you went into it.
Speaker 3: My answer is talented, mister Ripley. I know that's I
Speaker 3: want to be clear. I don't think it's troubling to
Speaker 3: be gay, you know what I'm saying, But like, as
Speaker 3: a straight person watch I think it's just incredible filmmaking
Speaker 3: where it transcends sexuality. So when I say troubling, it
Speaker 3: might be better to say unexpected. When I watch Damon
Speaker 3: and Jude Law in the Bath sort of playing grab
Speaker 3: ass and like they're both just Greek god bodies, like
Speaker 3: they're just any If they just stood still in a museum,
Speaker 3: a crowd would form, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I'm watching it and every time I watch that movie,
Speaker 3: Val is a real connoisseur of sexual tension, and the
Speaker 3: sexual tension in that scene, I relate to it, and
Speaker 3: I really to the forbidden love of it, Like I
Speaker 3: find that to be unexpected. I don't know if it's troubling, but.
Speaker 2: I get you. It's very sexy. Actually, Jude Law is
Speaker 2: fucking hot. I get it. I get I get what
Speaker 2: you're saying.
Speaker 3: But Brett, it's you know what it is. It's he's
Speaker 3: catching Matt Damon being horny for him being attracted to him,
Speaker 3: And as someone who grew up in the church and
Speaker 3: was really, you know, sort of traumatized by that, That's
Speaker 3: how I felt my whole life. One of my jokes
Speaker 3: is I had to come out of the closet is
Speaker 3: straight because like, admitting that you like boobs in the
Speaker 3: Christian world is still pretty naughty. Like it's like you
Speaker 3: fucking weird, Like it's gross. It's like keep that to yourself.
Speaker 3: And Damon's shame and wanting Jude Law even though those
Speaker 3: you know, male bodies aren't my you know, cup of
Speaker 3: tea or whatever you want to say. The feeling of
Speaker 3: the movie, I get lost in it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I know what it's like to sneak a peek at
Speaker 3: somebody that you're really attracted to, and you don't want
Speaker 3: them to know, because I mean, that's what my whole
Speaker 3: adolescence felt like, because I thought sex was so shameful.
Speaker 2: But it's also really good filmmaking because you are seeing
Speaker 2: him through Matt Damon's eyes, and Matt Damon is obsessed
Speaker 2: and falling in love or lust, and you are too,
Speaker 2: You absolute in that journey.
Speaker 3: And not to ruin it. But then when he kills him,
Speaker 3: I mean, that is that's It's the opposite of Moonlight.
Speaker 3: It's like he's resisting the love that's chasing him, and
Speaker 3: so many of us do that. We would rather believe
Speaker 3: bad news than good news.
Speaker 2: Holmes, Objectively, what's the greatest film of all time? Might
Speaker 2: not be your favorite, but what is the greatest film
Speaker 2: of all time?
Speaker 3: What is your greatest?
Speaker 2: I would say, don't look now. It's arguably top three
Speaker 2: greatest films of all time. I don't necessarily want to
Speaker 2: watch it every day, Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But as a sort of art, the art of cinema,
Speaker 2: the pinnaclem cinema, go, it don't get much better. They
Speaker 2: don't look now. That is a fucking you.
Speaker 3: Know, I hate to be an old person saying they
Speaker 3: don't make him like that anymore. But they don't make
Speaker 3: them like that anymore. I really, I just feel like
Speaker 3: you'll relate to this. The trend in art of chasing
Speaker 3: what people want is so insane because when you go like, well,
Speaker 3: this was popular, and these franchises were popular, and this
Speaker 3: nostalgia is popular, and this actor is popular, and this
Speaker 3: style of director, and let's put them all together in
Speaker 3: like a can't miss movie, really makes my dick soft
Speaker 3: because you know what, no one would ever say if
Speaker 3: you got I mean smart people, I mean film loving
Speaker 3: good people, smart people, not dumb dums, not like a
Speaker 3: focus group, like real good people, and you said what
Speaker 3: do you want? What kind of film do you want?
Speaker 3: None of them are ever going to say, Well, Donald
Speaker 3: Sutherland loses a child, not much happens. He's in venice
Speaker 3: and he's plagued by the loss. Giving people what they
Speaker 3: don't know they want is what art should be. You
Speaker 3: didn't know, and you know how I knew what you
Speaker 3: what I didn't know I wanted it was because I'm
Speaker 3: paying attention to my dreams. I'm paying attention to my subconscious.
Speaker 3: I'm in my body. I'm listening to those cold spots
Speaker 3: in my own inner pool. I'm having the courage to
Speaker 3: fly a kite into a black hole and I pull
Speaker 3: it back and I go, oh, my god, I think
Speaker 3: Donald Sutherland loses a child, Like instead of reverse engineering,
Speaker 3: how do we give them what they already had so
Speaker 3: that we can make sure they buy it again? Is
Speaker 3: fucking shit.
Speaker 2: Fucking shit, And it's always wrong. It's always that. It's
Speaker 2: always like the thing that is the breakout hit at
Speaker 2: some point it happens in films and it might be
Speaker 2: a Western, and then everyone goes, oh, we've got to
Speaker 2: make a shit light of Westerns, and then the Western
Speaker 2: dies again, and then the thing that actually is the
Speaker 2: breakout hit was not the thing you were planning, and
Speaker 2: then you just just fucking cycle. Like people like to
Speaker 2: be surprised. They just don't think.
Speaker 3: Well, there was a time, you know, I worked with
Speaker 3: Jud and Jud's movies were very surprising at the time
Speaker 3: forty year Old Virgin. These like low fi, low status
Speaker 3: anti heroes like Believe It or Not younger listeners, but
Speaker 3: like before the forty year Old Virgin comedies were kind
Speaker 3: of like I had a comedy pitch about like two
Speaker 3: guys that go to a school where the ratio is
Speaker 3: all fucked up, so there's thirteen girls to every guy.
Speaker 3: That was an idea you would have for a movie
Speaker 3: in the nineties. It'd be like, I think that would
Speaker 3: be a good movie. It's like poly sure, watch Biodome.
Speaker 3: There's like it does not age. Well, there's like shit
Speaker 3: in there that you're just like, that is not cool.
Speaker 3: But that's what comedies were. It was to say grab
Speaker 3: ass again. It was like, we're horny and you know it,
Speaker 3: and we're scoring and we were cool guys. And then
Speaker 3: Apatow comes along and he's like, no, this guy's never
Speaker 3: had sex and he's a loser or whatever. I'm playing
Speaker 3: with your idea of loser. So then what happens after
Speaker 3: forty year old virgin knocked up Super Bad? You start
Speaker 3: seeing Dinner for schmucks. I'm not putting down these are
Speaker 3: earnest people trying to make a great movie, but it
Speaker 3: was chasing a trend. I think some of them worked,
Speaker 3: but then it did start to oversay it's welcome when
Speaker 3: they were trying to imitate the Appatoel model. My answer though, Brett, yes,
Speaker 3: is there will be blood. And that's that's my answer.
Speaker 2: You h correct, You are correct, you got it right, correct, No,
Speaker 2: you're correct. You I led you down a path to
Speaker 2: see where you were going, and you you picked the
Speaker 2: right film. That's absolutely right.
Speaker 3: So good and it changed, It changed my life. And
Speaker 3: in a country America that only glorifies consumerism and achievement,
Speaker 3: to have a movie that skewers and shames and belittles
Speaker 3: and shines a light on what it's like when you're
Speaker 3: just cutting throats and taking the money and actually breaks
Speaker 3: that character and shows just how sad that is, what
Speaker 3: an achievement, that's giving people something they didn't know they want,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? It tricks you. Just it
Speaker 3: got me in touch with my anger. He's so mad
Speaker 3: at Paul Dano's character at Eli, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I think if we're being honest. When he's like, aren't
Speaker 3: you an ambassador of the Holy Spirit? Can't you hear
Speaker 3: my son? I was like, yeah, we all sort of
Speaker 3: feel that way, don't we. Like we all have that anger.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm talking about. Forgiving reality is the
Speaker 3: first forgiveness is like it's it is a nightmare at times,
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful and it's a nightmare, and it's both.
Speaker 3: It's holding those two together. And here's a guy who
Speaker 3: just wants to win, just wants to make it, make
Speaker 3: it blow gold everywhere. Like when I can't get a
Speaker 3: minute to come back into my office and work, I
Speaker 3: hear his voice going like, if I don't get to
Speaker 3: write this screenplay, then it can't blow gold everywhere. Like
Speaker 3: it's the voice of the untethered ego, the drive that
Speaker 3: would literally kill to not be a schmuck, to not
Speaker 3: be a loser. But the fact that it has the honesty.
Speaker 3: It's like movies that show violence but aren't honest about
Speaker 3: the repercussions of violence aren't always great movies. There's there's
Speaker 3: you know, kill Bill, Yeah, and stylized violence. But I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like real movies to me, show a fault, blind ambition
Speaker 3: and greed and then show the consequence of it. He's
Speaker 3: alone in that sad old man sweater killing sort of
Speaker 3: his only friend, you know, like his friend of me.
Speaker 3: He murders him. He's gonna get caught this time, you know, and.
Speaker 2: He sits likes he sits like he's shot himself, like
Speaker 2: he's sat in a diaper and he's guys finished, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, Come and wipe my bomb is like, yes,
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: The message of that movie is to one of them,
Speaker 3: is having all of your needs met or having everything
Speaker 3: you ever wanted is not the answer. And unfortunately there's
Speaker 3: too many movies, there's too many comedians even where the
Speaker 3: subtext is if you get money, you'll be okay. And
Speaker 3: I just anything that puts a dick in that cake
Speaker 3: is okay by me.
Speaker 2: I degree give me five hundred points. That's right. What's
Speaker 2: the film that you could or have watched the most
Speaker 2: iron over again?
Speaker 3: I am an obsessive movie watcher. I think we've talked
Speaker 3: about we both love mad Men. I've watched the whole
Speaker 3: of mad Men way too many times. But the best answer,
Speaker 3: and I have seven or eight movies written down here,
Speaker 3: the best answer for the movie that I always want
Speaker 3: to watch, meaning I watched it a week ago and
Speaker 3: I would watch it with you this afternoon is about Schmidt.
Speaker 3: I can't stop watching about Schmidt. I think it's perfect.
Speaker 3: I think it's funny, and it helps me make sense
Speaker 3: a little bit of the world. Like it really here's
Speaker 3: what it is. Man is like a lot of times
Speaker 3: I go around, you know how, throw said the massive
Speaker 3: manly lives of quiet desperation, right, yes, that makes me
Speaker 3: sad and that weight needs expression in art. And when
Speaker 3: I watch that movie, I go like, look, here's an
Speaker 3: ordinary life, but it's filled with If you look closely,
Speaker 3: everything is there. And he learns that when he gives
Speaker 3: the toast at the end of the movie, you see
Speaker 3: that he's learned to love the imperfections. That he stopped
Speaker 3: wanting reality to be something that it's not, and he
Speaker 3: starts loving it for what it is. And it happens
Speaker 3: because of a loss. My boy, Richard Ror calls that
Speaker 3: falling upward. He falls upward, he loses his wife. I
Speaker 3: don't want to give too many spoilers. That's in the trailer,
Speaker 3: I'm sure. And he just keeps getting broken again and
Speaker 3: again and again, and to quote Leonard Cohen, it's the
Speaker 3: cracks that let the light through. At the end, he
Speaker 3: stops hoping for something else, he stops doing what's expected,
Speaker 3: and he starts waking up to what is and forgiving it.
Speaker 3: You see a man forgiving it. He forgives it, and
Speaker 3: we all mother fucking have to forgive reality. And it's
Speaker 3: for you. It's for you to forgive it. That's about shmiant. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're so British. I'm going to make you cry. I'm
Speaker 3: going to make you cry, salty britt. I heard you
Speaker 3: say you don't cry. I'm going for it. I'm actually
Speaker 3: not going for it. But I also just think it's
Speaker 3: a perfectly made movie.
Speaker 2: Really good. What's the what is the film? We don't
Speaker 2: like to be negative? Peate od you tried it. You
Speaker 2: tried it earlier, and I didn't like it today.
Speaker 3: But now it was a question.
Speaker 2: It was leading, but I wasn't expected to feel the
Speaker 2: dreams to get dunk to one and not on my watch?
Speaker 2: What's the what's the film? What's the worst film you've
Speaker 2: ever seen? Oh?
Speaker 3: Maybe this is a cop out because so many people
Speaker 3: don't like these movies. But the newer, any newer thing
Speaker 3: were Superman's in it. I hate it because I don't
Speaker 3: like that style where it's like we're not even trying
Speaker 3: to look like we're not on a green screen. There's
Speaker 3: just like blue green smoke in every scene. Everybody's saying
Speaker 3: what they are thinking, like there's no subtext, there's no
Speaker 3: appreciation for how characters and human beings actually communicate, which
Speaker 3: is sometimes you say the opposite of what you're thinking
Speaker 3: or feeling. I mean, pay attention. You do that. Everyone
Speaker 3: does that. You say you love something and you hate it,
Speaker 3: or you say you want to do something and you
Speaker 3: don't want to do it. But in those movies, everybody's
Speaker 3: just expressing their clean, freshly faxed in opinion and they
Speaker 3: say it. Lois Lane is like, I'm a hot head
Speaker 3: reporter and I'm gonna chase this story and I don't
Speaker 3: care if you've never seen a woman in this position.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you what's what. And then she does.
Speaker 3: And Superman is just not a compelling hero. He's invincible,
Speaker 3: like we're saying, like I like wounds. I like things
Speaker 3: that remind us of the way that the universe works.
Speaker 3: And the way the universe works is it works with
Speaker 3: your wounds. It works with your wounds. And Superman loses
Speaker 3: his planet. But fuck off, you were a baby and
Speaker 3: you had a you know what I mean, you didn't
Speaker 3: know them. You don't know krypton, and then nothing hurts
Speaker 3: you except kryptonite. So it's always kryptonite. It's gonna be kryptonite.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be the twist, but there was one little
Speaker 3: piece of kryptonite. Or it's gonna be two super invincible
Speaker 3: people bashing in to each other with no steaks. This
Speaker 3: is going to be more controversial. But I have the
Speaker 3: same problem with Harry Potter. It's magic being shot at magic,
Speaker 3: and you're like, which magic is stronger? It's just peep
Speaker 3: peep peep pew. Oh yeah, And I'm like, this is steakless.
Speaker 3: This is the definition of nonsense. Like, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: those are bad movies, but Superman is just two impenetrable
Speaker 3: things trying to penetrate each other to waste the time.
Speaker 2: Look, I say, I hate cgi hate it unless I
Speaker 2: don't notice it, and then I'm impressed by it.
Speaker 3: Wilson the volleyball, that's a reference for val. She's going
Speaker 3: to listen to this, She'll know what I mean. Make
Speaker 3: me care about a volleyball, don't make me not care
Speaker 3: about a city. That's what that's the magic of cinema.
Speaker 3: We care about tokens like we care about them. We
Speaker 3: again to say imbue, We imbue them with meaning.
Speaker 2: Now Peeheim's you're in comedy, you're comedian, You're very funny.
Speaker 2: What's the film that made you laugh the mist.
Speaker 3: Here's two things I'm not. I'm not a guy who
Speaker 3: gets stoned a lot and watches movies. I actually think
Speaker 3: it ruins them. And oh, I also don't like bad movies.
Speaker 3: You know how people like bad movies. Yeah, Like, I've
Speaker 3: seen the Room, It's fine. I prefer the Disastertis. I
Speaker 3: like the movie about the movie. But Kung Pow foot
Speaker 3: fist way. If you're stoned and you don't know what
Speaker 3: it is, I don't know if I still don't know
Speaker 3: what it is. I saw it and I still don't
Speaker 3: know what it is. Val and I watched it and
Speaker 3: I got stoned, and it's so confusing and strange. You
Speaker 3: stop trying to understand it and you just let it
Speaker 3: happen that he's fighting a baby, and you just I
Speaker 3: just started weeping with like healing laughter. I was like,
Speaker 3: they've done it, They've figured out what's funny, and it's
Speaker 3: Kung pew foot fist way. And I'm sure everybody says Borat.
Speaker 3: That was my sober hardest laugh was Borat in the theaters.
Speaker 2: But Kung poll foot fists way really good. PMS. You've
Speaker 2: been wonderful, of course you have. No one expected anything
Speaker 2: less from you. However, when you were trying to save
Speaker 2: some dead cats and you can with yourself in in
Speaker 2: moisturizing cream, body or lube, and you went through a
Speaker 2: hole in the wall, and he puts nipple clamps on
Speaker 2: your nipples and stepped into the size of the beds,
Speaker 2: and then you've got a boner.
Speaker 3: And then you made me jeers.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. Then you had an aneurysm for no good reason,
Speaker 2: and then you jeersed and then you were dead and
Speaker 2: surrounded by dead cats. I'm passing by with a coffin,
Speaker 2: you know. I'm like, I wonder what Pete's up to.
Speaker 2: I think he's doing a show. I think he's staying
Speaker 2: in this motel. And knock on the door. Pete, Pete.
Speaker 2: He's very quiet. I can't even hear cats. Me. He's
Speaker 2: always got cats with him. I've knocked down the door.
Speaker 2: There you are. I'm not the first one there. There's
Speaker 2: loads and loads of press in the room. They're just
Speaker 2: taking pictures like I didn't listen. I know what it
Speaker 2: looks like. I know this guy, trust me, trust me.
Speaker 2: He was trying to save these cats. I'm sure this
Speaker 2: is just a terrible tragedy to get out of here, guys,
Speaker 2: and I put you in the coffin, but I also
Speaker 2: put all the dead cats in there with you, because
Speaker 2: I know that's what you'd want. Of course, I want
Speaker 2: you to enjoy coming for the rest of eternity until
Speaker 2: you press a button saying something happens.
Speaker 3: And I have a quarters half dollars on my eyes
Speaker 3: and they have dimes in their eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, and your boner is still there,
Speaker 2: which difficult. I have to chop off your boner and
Speaker 2: put it just mix it up with the dead cats. Anyway,
Speaker 2: coffin is absolutely packeds dead cats in you and the
Speaker 2: nipple clamps, who of course industrial strength. I'm not and
Speaker 2: I'm strong.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Only enough room in this coffin to put one DVD
Speaker 2: into the side. Jam it in the side for you
Speaker 2: to take across to the other side. And on the
Speaker 2: other side there is no thing. There's movie night every night,
Speaker 2: and one night it's your movie night. What film are
Speaker 2: taking to show everyone when it's your movie night? Pete Holmes,
Speaker 2: you know that's interesting.
Speaker 3: I think the DVD that cleans the lens, you know
Speaker 3: that the little brush and your hear because I'm there
Speaker 3: to help everyone watched their movies very kind. I actually,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not the movie that I would want
Speaker 3: to show in the No Thing, Other Life or whatever,
Speaker 3: but the movie that has the most bove or or
Speaker 3: like it's just like a relic. Like I consider like
Speaker 3: a DVD of this movie to be like a holy item.
Speaker 3: Is the documentary Into Great Silence. You have to say
Speaker 3: it carefully because it sounds like into Great Silence, Into
Speaker 3: Great Silence. It's where these French filmmakers had access to
Speaker 3: this monastery that they had never given access to, and
Speaker 3: it is you can't watch it, in my opinion, especially
Speaker 3: if it's in the theater, which I've never had the pleasure,
Speaker 3: but I've you know, turned the lights off and did
Speaker 3: my best. It just is the feeling of when someone
Speaker 3: reminds you that this is it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It slows you down to the point where you feel
Speaker 3: like you're underwater and there's asmr in it. There's like
Speaker 3: cutting felt robes with big shears, and there's like making
Speaker 3: soup and it's just like monks looking out a stone
Speaker 3: window just watching the sunrise. There's no story, there's nothing
Speaker 3: it shows them shoveling snow. But if you see someone
Speaker 3: who's present shoveling the snow, who knows that that's all
Speaker 3: they're doing, is shoveling snow, shoveling snow is enough to
Speaker 3: convert you or help you. I don't mean convert to
Speaker 3: a religion. I mean transform you. I mean it's enough
Speaker 3: to make you go as I hope you are talking
Speaker 3: to me, and I hope it is everyone listening. This
Speaker 3: is it, This is it, and it's enough, and it's enough.
Speaker 3: Not what am I going to listen to after this? What? Not?
Speaker 3: What am I going to eat after this? Not how
Speaker 3: much sleep am I going to get tonight? But just
Speaker 3: dropping anchor in this and the great ecker Toli says,
Speaker 3: how you feel right now is how you feel about
Speaker 3: your life. We think it's like the summary, like we're
Speaker 3: going to do all these cool things, and at the
Speaker 3: end we'll look at the summary, like the recap, the
Speaker 3: season recap, and go, that was a good life. Fuck
Speaker 3: that shit. It's just this. How you feel right now
Speaker 3: is how you feel about your life. And a movie
Speaker 3: like that will make you feel beautiful.
Speaker 2: Just washing the dishes, well, are they going to have
Speaker 2: a lovely time movie. Pete Heims, it is lovely being
Speaker 2: avoid looking into your avoid. Is there anything you would
Speaker 2: like to tell people to look out for or listen
Speaker 2: to or watch.
Speaker 3: T Lasso season two? Now? Can Nate have an android? Now?
Speaker 2: Can he now that he's wicked an android?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, now that he's bad? Yes, to have a
Speaker 3: Google phone? Well, small Wood will be out. But I
Speaker 3: always like to draw people listen to Bret's upisode of
Speaker 3: my podcast, one of the best ghost stories we've ever
Speaker 3: had on the show.
Speaker 2: These podcast is really really brilliant. If you haven't listened
Speaker 2: to it, I highly recommend it.
Speaker 3: That's what I'd like to promote, But specifically your episode
Speaker 3: is a great place to start because I already like
Speaker 3: you and that's a fun side of you.
Speaker 2: Well, God bless you, Pete Himes. You've been a joy.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks for having to have a wonderful nighting death.
Speaker 2: Take care. So that was another rewind classic. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on August night with ten brand new episodes. Thanks
Speaker 2: for listening. I hope you're all well. I hope you're
Speaker 2: having a lovely summer. Thank you to scrup Pip and
Speaker 2: the Destruction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peaks for producing it,
Speaker 2: Thanks to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network
Speaker 2: for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics
Speaker 2: and Least align Them for the photography. So that is
Speaker 2: it for now. In the meantime, have a lovely week
Speaker 2: and please be excellent to each others.
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