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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is episode three one three. My name is Brad Rowland,

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Speaker 1: coming to you on a Sunday evening here in late December.

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Speaker 1: It's the holidays in full force, and I'm joined as

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Speaker 1: I almost always am, b Scott Coleman Scott. It's a

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Speaker 1: I guess rare for us recently to have a quiet show,

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Speaker 1: but as we record this, it might be a quiet show.

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Speaker 2: How are you, hello, Brad? I am doing well and

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Speaker 2: early Happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you and everybody out there.

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Speaker 2: And it's weird like they signed Hassan Kim basically a

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Speaker 2: week ago, and there hasn't been a whole lot of moves,

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Speaker 2: although there was one transaction that we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about for the Braves tonight. But the way this offsea

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Speaker 2: has gone so far, it's been tough to go more

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Speaker 2: than a few days without some kind of Braves activity.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see. Usually there's a flurry of activity across

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball the couple of days before Christmas, but

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Speaker 2: then usually it quiets down from about Christmas Eve until

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Speaker 2: the day or two after New Year's Day. It's not

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Speaker 2: a guarantee but it feels like we might see some

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Speaker 2: real activity across the rest of the league and maybe

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Speaker 2: the Braves will be a part of that in the

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Speaker 2: next seventy two hours or so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a trade in baseball right before we

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Speaker 1: started recording, and what didn't involve the Braves. But like,

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Speaker 1: there's some stuff that's going to happen in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days, almost certainly, And we are a little

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Speaker 1: bit spoiled right now. I was looking at our database

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Speaker 1: of previous episodes and in the last twelve days, we

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Speaker 1: have done five shows, or actually six shows in the

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Speaker 1: last twelve days, and I believe three of them were

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Speaker 1: emergency podcasts. So we've had plenty to talk about. And

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Speaker 1: if you are new to the podcast number one, we

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Speaker 1: are Hammer Territory. We are part of the Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: network of podcasts. We cover the Braves all year round.

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Speaker 1: On this particular podcast, it is the two of us

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Speaker 1: Brad and Scott plus Steven Tolbert and Sean Coleman in

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Speaker 1: a regular rotation of the four of us. But if

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Speaker 1: you missed it, the most recent show on the feed

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Speaker 1: was Shawn and Stephen talking about kind of the state

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Speaker 1: of the Braves after that aforementioned flurry of aufeas and

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Speaker 1: activity that's been going on, and today we have a

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Speaker 1: couple of items to discuss. You already mentioned the transaction.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second, but first on

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Speaker 1: the agenda is basically we got some questions about this

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Speaker 1: and we'll just a mailbag later on some direct mailbag,

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Speaker 1: but like some remaining targets, like a lot of like, hey,

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Speaker 1: who do you guys want the Braves to sign now

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Speaker 1: or trade for now or whatever? We figured we might

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Speaker 1: being signed. It felt like then the Braves might be

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Speaker 1: done with, like the main offensive lineup stuff might be

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Speaker 1: not definitely are, but that seems like we should just

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Speaker 1: not saying they shouldn't sign Kyle Tucker. That'd be cool

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Speaker 2: I would say, when you look at the offensive side

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Speaker 1: I think he's very likely to be on this I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I go to lock, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speed player can steal a base late

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Speaker 2: My hunch is they're just going to kind of roll

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can say, while the top of the

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Speaker 1: We get a question from Fear of the Chop who says,

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Speaker 2: If I had to bet on if the Braves are

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Speaker 2: It would free up the possibility of putting either Ronaldo

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Speaker 2: we'll say one more time. I would really like to

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that's necessarily worth it. But if

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Speaker 2: you could get Chris Bassett or better, then sign me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my answer as well. We did not

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying, Tymy Malley is gonna be an

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Speaker 1: that might be a possibility. I'm not calling for that.

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Speaker 1: predictions are Bassett and Malley if they sign somebody, do

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Speaker 2: You know, I think it's funny. I'll answer that in

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Speaker 2: four or five seasons, and said, Chris, you were going

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Speaker 2: in particular where it's still interesting to talk about the

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Speaker 2: guys that are left, and we'll see where the Braves go.

430
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Speaker 2: You teesus already? Should we talk about the transaction that

431
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 2: happened a couple days ago. The Braves signed Ian Hamilton

432
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: to a one year deal. It's non guarantee, but it

433
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,360
Speaker 2: was a it's a major league non guarantee. Well could

434
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Speaker 2: be a split. The Braves announced it, so it wasn't

435
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 2: like they stuck this one under the under the wire.

436
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: They tweeted it out, they announced this move. And he's

437
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: a major league reliever, thirty year old right hander. It's

438
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 2: been with the Yankees the last three years. Pretty good

439
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 2: numbers with the Yikes. Actually, but his worst year was

440
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,959
Speaker 2: last year, which is why he's available. He had kind

441
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 2: of a rough year. It's twenty twenty five. I will

442
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: say this is three years ago now, but twenty twenty three,

443
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Speaker 2: he was like, actually awesome, Like under the hood, all

444
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: the numbers looked awesome. He's he's always thirty, so it's

445
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 2: not like he's thirty eight and he's maybe done. Maybe

446
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: he's done.

447
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 1: We don't know. He's throwing slower down. But I was

448
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 1: this is one of those guys where it's like not

449
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: a joke, Like it's like, this guy could be a

450
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Speaker 1: part of the bullpen and I would not be surprised

451
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: at all. He seems like he's at least a real

452
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: bet and for very cheap.

453
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Speaker 2: That total sense to me, absolutely, And you know, it's

454
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Speaker 2: funny whenever a player signs with the team. I tend

455
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Speaker 2: to look at the other fan basees reaction to it,

456
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: which is not scientific, but it helps. Yeah, there were

457
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Speaker 2: quite a few Yankees fans who when and Ian Hamilton

458
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Speaker 2: signed with Atlanta, they kind of were like, damn it.

459
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Speaker 2: Of course the Braves signed this guy. That's a really

460
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Speaker 2: smart like by low see if he can bounce back

461
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 2: type of signing. His fastball dipped quite a bit, that

462
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Speaker 2: the velocity on the fastball was down. That obviously impacted Hamilton,

463
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Speaker 2: a pitch that he really relied on a couple of

464
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Speaker 2: years ago when he was so efficient. But it's to me,

465
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,719
Speaker 2: this kind of feels like Uel Piomps two point zero?

466
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: Why not man? And you got it? Basically, no guaranteed

467
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: money if you want, if he makes the team. I'm

468
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: guessing it's for a million million dollars, maybe two million dollars.

469
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Speaker 2: It's it's low risk and there is some legitimate upside here.

470
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: If Phillips can or Hamilton rather can can find what

471
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Speaker 2: made him successful with the Yankees a couple of years ago,

472
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Speaker 2: then you've added somebody to your bullpen next for very

473
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Speaker 2: little money.

474
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those signings that we might just

475
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Speaker 1: forget about if it doesn't go well in the spring,

476
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Speaker 1: might never talk about him again after that, or he

477
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Speaker 1: might be your sixth reliever in the bullpen and bring

478
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Speaker 1: some actual value. Like that's very much a two sides

479
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: of the coin there, but because of the cost of

480
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Speaker 1: literally nothing, a non guaranteed deal, it makes total sense.

481
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Speaker 1: And these are the kind of guys that Alex is

482
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Speaker 1: always going to sign. And then of course brays fancible

483
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Speaker 1: accusma of being a bargain basement guy or was bargain

484
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Speaker 1: ben Alex is the one we we.

485
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Speaker 2: With dollar Tree, Alex do Tree, Alex.

486
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Speaker 1: It's a little bit harder to do that now when

487
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Speaker 1: he just spent a bazillion dollars in like a week.

488
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Speaker 1: But uh, that's still that's still out there. But no,

489
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Speaker 1: I like that move. Will it be impactful? We will

490
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Speaker 1: see on that from all right, Scott. In a second,

491
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: we will answer some mail bad question. We already answer one.

492
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Speaker 1: We will answer some more, including some Christmas one. I'm

493
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Speaker 1: pledging you right now it's pre Christmas. We'll answer a

494
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: couple of Christmas related mail back questions. We'll getting all

495
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Speaker 1: that more in just one okay, Scott, First, before we

496
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Speaker 1: get to the Christmas stuff, a question from Nick seventeen,

497
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Speaker 1: ATL who says, very succinctly Officeason grade so far question

498
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: mark a forward question. I will give you the honors.

499
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Speaker 1: What would you grade the Braves off season as of

500
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Speaker 1: Monday December twenty second.

501
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: I would go with an AS, and there is a

502
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: real chance to get it to an A or a

503
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: legitimate A plus, which I gotta be honest bread two

504
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: months ago, I had no feel for where this offseason

505
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: was gonna go. Were they gonna be cheap again and

506
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: really avoid luxury tax or were they gonna go back

507
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: to payroll levels where they were previously, And after a

508
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: down year for the Braves, in all of our hearts,

509
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: it was like, damn it, I hope the Braves go

510
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: out and add some talent and change things up a

511
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: little bit. And sure, maybe they didn't go out and

512
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: sign Kyle Tucker for four hundred million dollars or didn't

513
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: go out and sign Dylan C's for two hundred and

514
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: ten million dollars over the next seven years, but they've

515
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Speaker 2: added a lot. They've raised the floor of this roster.

516
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: I think they've raised the upside of this roster as well.

517
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Speaker 2: I'm at an A minus where are you at.

518
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: We're in the same range. I was debating between B

519
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: and B plus. It's good. I like what they've done.

520
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: I know I wasn't on a number of the reaction

521
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: emergency shows, but they have not done a move yet

522
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: that I have like disliked. There's varying degrees of excitement

523
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: on this stuff, but even the astrmpsky one, which is

524
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: the one that they got the most pushback, I like,

525
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: I kind of like that deal. To be honest with you,

526
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: the only reason why it's not an A is that

527
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: started pitching has not been addressed if they had already done.

528
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: Even if they do, Chris Bassett, I will give it

529
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: an A minus to an A. My only reason why

530
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: it's not higher is that. And it's hard because I

531
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: gave the date earlier, Like we are big proponents of

532
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: like you can't judge the off season on December twenty second,

533
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Like it's it's silly to do that, and I get it.

534
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: People want to rush to reactions. Think about it. Three

535
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: weeks ago, Scott, people were furious about the way things

536
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: were going, and the Brave has made three substantial additions

537
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: in a six day period, five day period, so like

538
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: you never know when's gonna happen and what it's gonna happen.

539
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm closer to a minus than I am

540
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: to be minus. Like it's in that b people And

541
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Speaker 1: the only reason why it's not higher is because of

542
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: starting pitching and my valuing that considerably of like needing

543
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: to do that more than many some fans do. But

544
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: nothing negative at all, Like I think if you're grading

545
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Speaker 1: it negatively, I don't really know why you would. Maybe

546
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: you're just trying to but yeah, be plus and a minus,

547
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: I guess you're almost the same. But I'm training to

548
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: be I'll go be plus. I think it's about where

549
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: I am on this. And if they do anything substantial

550
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: with the rotation and Chris Bassett, your manageable vary Tyler Mallley,

551
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: who if they add a starter that I think is

552
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: a real starter, I will go to a minus. A

553
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: that's robby.

554
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, if you're trying to be a

555
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: critic of the moves, then sure you can have real

556
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: doubts about what does thirty five year old Mike Ushchraumsky do,

557
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: Like can you just copy paste what he's done the

558
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: last couple of years?

559
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: That is that is the one to be like to

560
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: down I get why people downplay that. I really do,

561
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: like I think you needed a step a step more

562
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: of nuance to like like that move. The price tag

563
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: was hired people expected, and then you look at it

564
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper, for example, and it's like, oh,

565
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: it's only nine million, and then ten million, and then

566
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: this very very cheap mutual you know, biot option thing.

567
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: So it's like even at first blunch it was like, oh,

568
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: that's a lot. Oh it's actually cheaper than it when

569
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: we thought it was.

570
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Speaker 2: It's basically a two year, nineteen million dollar contract with

571
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Speaker 2: a cheaper third year and a buyout. I mean, I know,

572
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Speaker 2: the whole thing is you roll in the guaranteed money

573
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: to the totally I get lost and I get it

574
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: me too. But if it was announced as two years

575
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: nineteen million, I almost wonder if the reaction would have

576
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: been a little bit lighter, then.

577
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: It probably would have been. And also not to do

578
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: this again, but he fits the roster in that he

579
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: does one thing really well. He hits right handed pitching,

580
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: and like that's the strong side of a platoon. He's

581
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: a better defender than Jerkson Profar, Like there's reasons to anyway,

582
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: we would have to do the whole thing again. But

583
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: that's the one move where I do think it's totally

584
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 1: fine and understandable to not be excited about that. I

585
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: totally get a Glacias and Suarez on good contracts, like

586
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: your bullpen went from a giant question mark to a

587
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 1: potential strength in two moves. Yeah, and then you know

588
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: it is what it is in the Hassan Kim, Yeah,

589
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't Boba Schet, but like it's a

590
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: one year deal. Hard to not like it. I like

591
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: the off season so far. The only it's just it's

592
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: more of an incomplete than a negative for me. It's

593
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: like still like it's done a lot, spent a lot

594
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: of money. Hard to be upset in fact on the

595
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: money question. Let's go to the next one. Are what

596
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: we should have more to say on that which we

597
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: could do? But question from Benjamin packets related and I

598
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: like the way frame this for our purposes. Are you

599
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: surprised with the amount of money already committed to the

600
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six payroll during this off season? Are you surprised?

601
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: Not that you like it? Are you surprised? Interesting way

602
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: to frame it.

603
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: A little bit now, in my true heart of hearts,

604
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: I really felt like the Braves wanted to reset the

605
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: luxury tax a year ago where they did reset the

606
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: luxury tax, but and then they just kind of wanted

607
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: to clean up their books and then would get closer

608
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: to payroll, where in twenty twenty four it was up there,

609
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: like it was much higher than it was in twenty

610
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: twenty five, with no real change in the overall standing

611
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: of the team. They were coming off a down year.

612
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Braves took note of what attendants looked

613
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: like in the final two months of the season. I'm

614
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: sure like the day of revenue was down significantly compared

615
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: to what they do. The team is good quite obviously,

616
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: so am I shocked that they have been so aggressive

617
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Maybe not like really surprised, but it was a legitimate

618
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: question coming into it. And obviously I am thrilled that

619
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: they are spending more at the level the Atlanta Braves

620
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: should be spending.

621
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Speaker 1: Yet, yeah, I think when we talked about this last

622
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: time you and I talked, that was where we landed,

623
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: was like, hey, this is where they should be. Like, regardless,

624
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: there was a lot of frustration last winter. You know,

625
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: it's funny we are as a show I think accused

626
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: way more recently. It's funny. Back when you and I

627
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: were first starting, we were seen as the negative guys.

628
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Remember that's got fun memories. It must be in the

629
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: negative guys, negative Nazis. Now people think we're too positive,

630
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: which is funny. Maybe it'scause they're losing and we're you

631
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: know whatever, but we kind of we were critical of

632
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: the off season last winter from a spending perspective, and

633
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: their nuance of that with like, hey, that's not really

634
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: an Alex Entthopolo's choice, that's a Terry McGirk choice, which

635
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: is why that's the breakdown comes sometimes. But you're right

636
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: they were. I think they were what like six their

637
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: seventh in baseball and payroll in twenty twenty four, Like

638
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: they were up there pretty high. That season didn't go

639
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: great and maybe the playoffs, and then last year. I

640
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: will go to my grave believing that Alex had a

641
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: meeting with someone above him. Between his exit interview and

642
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: his next comments that said, by the way, you have

643
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: less money thing, we thought, I will go to my

644
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Speaker 1: grave on that and he'll He'll never tell you there's

645
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Speaker 1: no reason for we're gonna tell you, don't Chris as

646
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: your boss publicly that's not what happens. But I will

647
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: go to my grave believing that happened last winter. And

648
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: the positive thing to bring it full circle now is

649
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: like that is not happening now. They're spending now, how

650
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: much they're gonna spend. I think that third tier of

651
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: CBT tax might be the red line. I think, but hey,

652
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: unless you're the Mets of the Dodgers, that's probably gonna

653
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: be a red line for most teams. Maybe the Blue

654
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: Jays because they have a whole country behind them. It's

655
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting things have a whole region behind them.

656
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Speaker 2: But you know, did you see the Dodgers luxury tax penalty.

657
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I mean, I get it, I get why.

658
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the Yankees used to be that way too.

659
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Speaker 1: The Yankees were as recently as a few years ago.

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00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: The Yankees, I think we're still number one in payroll

661
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: like two years ago, even more than the Dodgers. This

662
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: has been recent. The Dodgers are going through the stratosphere.

663
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, isn't it like one hundred something? I don't

664
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Speaker 1: know how much money is one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and seventy million dollars in penalties for going over

666
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: the tax just ridiculous. But we don't. We don't need it.

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Speaker 2: We don't need a salary cap, Brad. We definitely don't

668
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: need one, or a salary floor. We definitely don't.

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Speaker 1: Or any or any it's or any kind of sanction

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Speaker 1: on deferrals, none of those things, even if your anti

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Speaker 1: salary cap, which I get, maybe some notes, maybe some

672
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: notes on the on the on the new cbabot the

673
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: way you can defer contracts, so that show he can't

674
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Speaker 1: have five hundred million defer or whatever it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So am I surprised To answer the question, I'm really not.

676
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: I kind of thought they were going to spend more.

677
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: It's more that I wasn't sure they were going to

678
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: spend more, and now now we've seen it, so I

679
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Speaker 1: feel better about it. I'm not shocked or anything. Maybe

680
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: a slight pleasant surprise, but not overall. If they go over,

681
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: if they go above the third tier, like for instance,

682
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: if they if they signed fraanbra Valdez to a giant contract,

683
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: I will be surprised at that point. Not I won't

684
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: be shocked anymore, but surprised in a good way if

685
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Speaker 1: they spend even more than I think they're going to spend.

686
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: But to date, I mean, uh, it's also been very

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Speaker 1: alex coded the way they have spent. They have spent

688
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: the money but without any like big long term money

689
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: and got fight years.

690
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: But they have eighty million dollars roughly coming off the

691
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: books in a calendar year, Brad, I mean they it's

692
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: it's easier said than done to go year by year

693
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: with your payroll. But I mean eighty million dollars, and

694
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: of course you're losing Chrysale, you're losing well at the

695
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: moment you're losing Chrysale, you're losing rayceell Iglacias again, like

696
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: they can. These things have a way of working themselves out.

697
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: But I mean, as we sit here today, they have

698
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: about eighty some odd million dollars coming off the books

699
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: for next season.

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Speaker 1: They should go ahead and announce the Chrysale extension asap.

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00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead and do that. I'd be fine with that.

702
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Do do the Charlie importon style Chris at another year

703
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: of twenty eight million, and for Chris Sale, that's fine,

704
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that right now, let's sign me up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they have to do that. For the record,

706
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm being kind of funny, but I would not mind

707
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Speaker 1: that blue box at some point soon to just say, hey,

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00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: here's one more year, Chris, We'll go to year to year.

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Speaker 1: As long as you want to pitch, please stick around.

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00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: I'd be fine with that, Okay, Scott. I think we

711
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: could probably move to the Christmas portion of the podcast

712
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: in an effort to not go super long, so we

713
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Speaker 1: will divide the line here everybody. If you don't want

714
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: to hear our takes briefly on some Christmas things, you

715
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: can sign off the podcast. We don't want you to,

716
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Speaker 1: but I don't.

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00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: Don't want to brave.

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Speaker 1: There's a Brase related question. There is one, but it's

719
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Speaker 1: not going to be about the twenty twenty five, twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The first one is literally this is a question directly

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Speaker 1: to you, because I have no opinion on this. It's

723
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: from Ray Addis, who says the question we all want

724
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Speaker 1: answered is what is the best Christmas episode of the Office?

725
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: And why I say that? If you don't know, Scott

726
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: is an Office super fan, which is why he's I've

727
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: seen in the Office. The Office is funny. I'm not

728
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: an office super fan, So this is all you, my friend.

729
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually a little tradition now that we watch

730
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: the Christmas episodes, because I think there's seven of them

731
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Speaker 2: on either Christmas Eve or right before Christmas. Best Office

732
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: Christmas episode. There are some good ones. I would go

733
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Speaker 2: with Benny Hannah Christmas Underrated though, would be Classy Christmas

734
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: where Jim and DWIGHTE have a snowball fight. That's where

735
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: we will end the office talk because if you've never

736
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: seen the show, you probably have no idea what I'm

737
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: talking about. But the Beni Hannah Christmas episode is not

738
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: just like the best Christmas episode. It's one of like

739
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: the top maybe fifteen episodes in the show. And I

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Speaker 2: will say Brad, as somebody who has recently watched Seinfeld

741
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Speaker 2: for the first time, I am now familiar with Festivus.

742
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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have for the rest of us.

743
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to work Festivus into our Christmas Eve

744
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: viewing this year. Great episode, one of my favorites of

745
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: the whole series. So I am familiar. I had heard

746
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: of Festivus and like, what the hell does that mean?

747
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: I am? I do know the origins now, and I am.

748
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: I am educated in Seinfeld. I think me being a

749
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: little bit older than you is explains the gap here.

750
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Speaker 2: Like I was watching Seinfeld when it was on, like

751
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: I was young, but I was like staying up to

752
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: like watch Steinfeld and thought it was funny.

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00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: It's very funny. Again, I see there's like one hundred

754
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I looked this up. There's one hundred and nine Office episodes.

755
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: I bet I've seen fifty of them at least I've

756
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of Office, just not the whole series. So

757
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: you're the authority. Please if you want to comment and

758
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: yell your own thoughts, that's got. That's this is the

759
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: time of doing, I promise you all right. Last one,

760
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: this is the Braves related question from I believe it's

761
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Speaker 1: Braves Uga fan. That could be anybody. There are a

762
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: lot of Bridge Uga fans, but that was the handle

763
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: of the person. Sad this question to us, Hey guys

764
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: with the holidays here, what was your favorite Braves themed

765
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: gift that you ever got? So interesting? I'm bad at

766
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: remembering guests, but I have a good answer for this,

767
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I think. So you go ahead. First, I'm going to

768
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: defer to you and I'll pre up the rear.

769
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Speaker 2: You know, I am not a local, but I have

770
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: a great answer. So my now wife, but back then

771
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: girlfriend actually bought me a brick outside of Truist Park

772
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: has my name on it. I think it says go

773
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Braves Scott Coleman. And I have a replica of that

774
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: brick and a stand at my house. It's just to

775
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: my left. Actually, we had been dating maybe like six

776
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: months at this point, so that's a pretty cool gift.

777
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's still there when I was in Atlanta

778
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: last like.

779
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: And that's why you married her? That that's what right then?

780
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: Is what you decide to marry or is that right?

781
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: I did, Yes. The next day I went to the

782
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: jewelry store and bought her a ring and said, you

783
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: bought me a brick, will you marry me right now?

784
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: But it's cool, So I don't know, maybe if you're

785
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: ever walking around truesst Park.

786
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: And you're just gonna say, should we have a pilgrimage

787
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: to the Scott Coleman brick.

788
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: I do have a photo with it. It's on the

789
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: first base side of the of the stadium, outside the

790
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: stadium obviously, but I did find it the last time

791
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta like five years ago. It took

792
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: a little while. There's a lot of bricks out there.

793
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Names yeah, but I do have a brick, which was

794
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: a great gift.

795
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: I was.

796
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell because it's heavy. I

797
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: was like, what on earth did you buy me? You know,

798
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: we will have been dating like six months. It's not

799
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: like we've been together forever. Now she knew, she knew.

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00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: There you go, well what about you?

801
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: No?

802
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: I it's funny. I saw Steven our co host Stephen

803
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: at a game at a game in person this year,

804
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: and if I had known, we would have gone and

805
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: found the brick that had been our activity, taking a

806
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: picture of it, uh, for the for the world to

807
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: see minus less minus less relational than that, but kind

808
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: of also relational. So I people may remember this because

809
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: you've breaking up all the time. I am a park

810
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: View High School alum in Lowbern, Georgia, and the Brains

811
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: have had two very famous park View alums on their team.

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00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

813
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: The most recent one is Matt Olson, who's very good.

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00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm a lot older than med Eilson, so I did

815
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: not know Matt growing up. I did I didn't do

816
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: know Jeff francore so Jeff was two years ahead of

817
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: me in school, but we played basketball. And I've known

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Speaker 1: Jeff for a long time. I know his wife, I

819
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: know his mother was a teacher of mine in school.

820
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Speaker 1: Just keep out in minds, that's the level of seventh

821
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Speaker 1: grade math teacher jeffrank KORZMM. So anyway, this is before

822
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: I was covering the team. I was a fan of

823
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: the team. But in two thousand and five, so I'm old.

824
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: I was nineteen Christmas two thousand and five. My parents,

825
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: who don't get me a lot of gifts. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that in a negative way. We were not a

827
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Speaker 1: big gift family. Just wasn't what we did A lot

828
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Speaker 1: of they got that. If you don't remember, if you

829
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Speaker 1: were not old, don't remember this. Jeffrank Courts within five

830
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: was the thing. Oh yes, he came back. Was the

831
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Speaker 1: year he came up and was incredible. S I cover

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Speaker 1: all the Yef.

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Speaker 2: The Natural, The Natural, cover of Sports Illustrated. I mean

834
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Speaker 2: Jeff frank Coremania. If you're not old enough to remember,

835
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Speaker 2: it was the summer of Jeff Frank core I think

836
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Speaker 2: he homered in his debut, or like a couple of

837
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: games into his debut. I mean, it was it was

838
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: scenes in Atlanta, the Baby Braves.

839
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: It was scenes in Atlanta, and obviously since you now

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00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: know of it, like I literally know Jeff went to

841
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: my high school, it was an even your deal for

842
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: people like me. It was like, I know, this guy's

843
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: going crazy with the Braves. I'm I'm in college at

844
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: the time, and my parents got me a like nice

845
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: like the one of the nice, like authentic whatever whatever

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: it was. Then the stitched Frankore jerseys for Christmas that year,

847
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: and like that's all I got. That was it for

848
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: me for like maybe for years. I might have been

849
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: my last gift of my parents, but I got one

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00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: of those, and uh that was very cool. I still

851
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: have it. I don't wear it anymore because he doesn't

852
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: play anymore, but I have it in mind's in my closet,

853
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: which you can't see.

854
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: I have.

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00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: I literally have two. I've had two nice Brave jerseys

856
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: in my life. That one and a Freddie Freeman one,

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00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: which I also know Freddy and his family, and so

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00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: there's all these connections and things. So the next time

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Speaker 1: I get one up, probably Matt Olsen, because like I

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00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: don't know Matt, but I mean we went to the

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00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: same school. I love Ronnie. If anyone wants to buy

862
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: me a jersey, feel free. I still buy me a jersey, everybody.

863
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: It's fine. I should wear, you know when I go

864
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: to games. Now I'm like working sometimes and you it's

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Speaker 1: not quite the same thing. But that was a cool one.

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Speaker 1: I will cherish that one. And knowing Jeff, I wish

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Speaker 1: it had got better for Jeff after that, but at

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00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: the time, uh, trade value through the roof and all

869
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: those things. It didn't didn't work out very well.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny. And then we'll we will

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00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: conclude the Jeff frank Core segment of this podcast. But

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00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: why I wonder twenty if Jeff frank Core debuted twenty

873
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: years later, would he have been a player who like

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00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: every week on the show. We would have been like, yeah,

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00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: Jeff had another big week. But dear god, they're oh, yes,

876
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: screaming one.

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00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: No. I mean, I it probably existed then, yeah, but

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00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: that was early. It was still earlier. I mean, there

879
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: was blocks happening and stuff, but it wasn't like the

880
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: full you know, Fangrafts era. At that point in time.

881
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: It would have been like we talk about Michael Harris

882
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: now on steroids with Jeff Like every flashing sign he

883
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: swung at everything, everyone would have known it was going

884
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: to cool off. But back then, twenty years ago, like

885
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: maybe the Sickos, maybe maybe through it's like saber at

886
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: that point in time, they were probably they were probab

887
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: flashing the light on jefferent Corps, but not in the mainstream.

888
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was like, this guy's this guy knows

889
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: is gonna be the greatest player of all time. He

890
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: might be like the next Hank Aaron And that didn't

891
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: have but cool gift, Mom and Dad shouts to you guys. Uh.

892
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Not as cool as the brick though. So Scott's wife

893
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: wins this one by a lot. Tell her I said that, Scott,

894
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: and I promise next time I go, you gotta remind

895
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: me next time I go over to Truist, I gotta

896
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: try to find the brick, because that'll be fun.

897
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I have a little card on like

898
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: the bottom of the stand that holds the brick that

899
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: shows like roughly where it is. Yeah, so I'll find that.

900
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: I'll send it to you. You and you and Steven

901
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: can take a nice photo in front of it and

902
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: do a maybe go live from outside of my brick

903
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: at truest part.

904
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: That's what I'll do. I will go live on Hamward

905
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: Servitory YouTube when I find the brick and just be like,

906
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: all right, everybody found the brick, and then just clear

907
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: we can just just end it all right, Well, thank

908
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: you Scott for that story. That's all we have on

909
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: today's podcast. Look you we teased it. We started here

910
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: when here the Bricks can still do some stuff in

911
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: the next couple days. There is not a hard moratorium.

912
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: Most gms that are not like aj Preller or like

913
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto tend to take a break for a few

914
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: days around Christmas. But Alex isn't afraid to make a move,

915
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: so we'll have content if things happen, please subscribe to

916
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: the show. But if anything happens, I promise we will break in.

917
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: We might be in somebody's kitchen for Christmas or something

918
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: like that, but we'll have a show at some point.

919
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Some combination of the formless will react to it. In

920
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: the meantime, Scott, if we have new listeners, where can

921
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: they find? All of your musings on social media, including

922
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: what I can only assume will be a live meltdown

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00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: on Monday Night during Colts forty nine.

924
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: Ers football is officially dead to me, Brad, it's been

925
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: a bad It.

926
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: Was going so well for about for about two months

927
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: in Scott's life, and then it didn't anymore.

928
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Sorry.

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00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: I am at Scott Coleman fifty five on Twitter slash x.

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Speaker 2: As always, a big thank you to people for checking

932
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: out the show, and we will have some kind of

933
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: content between now and the new year. As Brad said,

934
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: if there's any train action, of course we'll do a show,

935
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: but we'll have something on the feed just to kind

936
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: of hold everybody over, and then hopefully in January we

937
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 2: just get right back up and going and and wrap

938
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: things up and then before you know it. I think

939
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: spring training is early this year, I think because of

940
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: the WBE. I think report dates for some teams start

941
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: like February tenth or something like that, so it's going

942
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: to be here before we know it. Hopefully a much

943
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: better season on the horizon for the Atlanta.

944
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: Braves, no question about that. Ways compared to last year.

945
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: I think that we could be safe in projecting that.

946
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: Maybe no guarantees, but it'd be better than a year

947
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,480
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