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Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, this is Colege Forber and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z A

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Speaker 2: Lucky It's the Philly Show. It's Wednesday, June twenty fifth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Hope everybody is doing well out there.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing well this morning?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing particularly well. Guy.

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Speaker 2: This always sounds so you're like, yes, Ruben, you're behind,

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Speaker 2: you're behind, You're an hour behind us, So we appreciate

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Speaker 2: you getting up early. This is what How much of

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Speaker 2: a gamer Ruben is? I forgot that he was going

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Speaker 2: to Houston with the broadcast crew, with the team, and

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Speaker 2: so we recorded on Monday at seven am, six am Central, right, Ruben?

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Speaker 1: Gamer? Correct?

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Speaker 2: And you're and you got to the hotel at what time? Rubin?

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Speaker 1: I lay my head down around three in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not a NARIA complaint from Ruben. He just said

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Speaker 2: let's do it. And he's like, I'm on three hours

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Speaker 2: I'm at the hotel with the team.

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Speaker 1: Let's go always split this thing up fifty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Absolutely, Oh my gosh. The Phillies

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Speaker 2: last night Tuesday Night lose to the Houston Astros one

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Speaker 2: to nothing. Happy Ranger Sores pitched fantastically and that is

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Speaker 2: the great place to start. It is the park's first pitch.

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Speaker 2: First pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners

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Speaker 2: at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino guys. Ranger Suarez

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Speaker 2: fantastic through ninety eight pitches. Threw his first ninety eight

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Speaker 2: pitches into the eighth inning Tuesday night in Houston, and

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Speaker 2: then he leaves a cutter over the plate to Cooper Hummel,

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Speaker 2: who hits a home run to right center field. It's

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Speaker 2: the only run of the game. The Phillies lose one nothing.

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Speaker 2: Rangers was fantastic fifty pitches through five no innings. He

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Speaker 2: makes two sick plays off the mound, catches a you know,

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Speaker 2: a one to three double play to end a fourth inning,

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Speaker 3: That's so ranger.

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Speaker 2: That is such a ranger.

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Speaker 1: That's how Chilly is.

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Speaker 4: In fact, he did it all if he was still

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Speaker 3: He would have driven in two and he would have won.

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Speaker 3: Like stucked about Uh. I actually I thought I was

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Speaker 3: watching Greg Maddox because Greg Maddox was gold Glover. Gold

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Speaker 3: Glover could make any you know, any play that a

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Speaker 3: looks great defensively. Great athlete is always in a good

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Speaker 3: change up, he was down, he was getting the edge.

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Speaker 3: Now he started walking it off the edge. It was

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Speaker 3: Was a brilliant performance, and he's had a string of

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm digressing a little bit. But if he doesn't

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Speaker 3: of last year. If he doesn't get hurt, I mean,

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Speaker 3: are we even talking about him getting the free agency?

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Speaker 3: Maybe we are, but maybe the Phillies making a really

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Speaker 4: So you're proud with the with the questions that we're

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Speaker 4: gonna get later on, Jim.

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Speaker 1: What's that probably.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, well, I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're good.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, You're you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, is Lozardo even is Lozardo even here? Is

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Speaker 4: Your darn toutin, man, you're your your nails on, because

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Speaker 4: really the issue for him is not really what he

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Speaker 5: We'll throw five or you know, have him throw five

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Speaker 5: And you know, maybe you know, and somebody's gonna pay

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Speaker 5: this man. He and franbervald As we faced yesterday the

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Speaker 5: two free agents too lefty for agents. And beyond that,

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Speaker 2: Bank major glue. Thank so, My my my colleague buddy

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Speaker 2: at MLB dot com, Paul Cassella wrote this in his

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Speaker 2: story Last Night from Houston Tuesday Night from Houston, going

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Speaker 2: back to when the mound was lowered in nineteen sixty ninety,

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Speaker 2: only other Phillies pitchers to throw that many innings with

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Speaker 2: an era in Rangers six and two over sixty one

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Speaker 2: nine start span. Steve Carlton nineteen seventy two. That was

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Speaker 2: a good year.

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Speaker 1: It was okay.

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Speaker 2: Cliff Lee twenty eleven, that was a good year.

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Speaker 2: And the only other pitcher to do it was Ranger

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Speaker 2: Sworez last season. So he's had two of these stretches

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Speaker 2: in a row in consecutive seasons. And we did ask you, guys,

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Speaker 2: and I wanted to start with one question. Got a

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Speaker 2: lot of great questions, but I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 2: j R Adler on threads. How do you not find

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Speaker 2: wearing down. There must be a way. So many people

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Speaker 2: seem to think it's a foregone conclusion that there is

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Speaker 2: it up, Rubin you mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: If you keep like this, what would you do? Jim?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I apologize for preempting the question.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Why are you apologizing?

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Speaker 3: Because point.

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Speaker 3: You know, what would I do? I still have questions

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Speaker 3: I think he's looking for a big score. You already

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Speaker 3: separate of that, there's still a long term commitment to

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Speaker 3: I don't know where John Middleton is willing to go,

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Speaker 3: I like to have him if he's pitching the way

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Speaker 3: and a lot of it depends on what happens with Schwarber.

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Speaker 3: Can you get out from some money this winter because

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Speaker 3: is Ranger Suarez is on an incredible salary drive and

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Speaker 3: I expect to expect it to continue over these final months.

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Speaker 3: That's why I thought it was so absurd the talk

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Speaker 3: You need him if you want to win the World

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Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know. I don't get paid

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Speaker 3: silly about these decisions. Rubert actually got paid to make

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Speaker 4: I would preemptively try to sign both real Muto and Schwarber,

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Speaker 3: You want to see you want to see more health.

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Speaker 4: he's not able to pitch, and I'm going to commit

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about we're talking about two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 3: He's definitely going to go for that.

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Speaker 4: And if he finishes off the season the way he's

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Speaker 2: And Ruby, you're right too, because every team, right, just

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Speaker 2: like a hitter that's coming off a down year, you

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Speaker 2: have your hitting coach, Telly Rubin, I can fix this guy.

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Speaker 2: Get let me get my hands on this guy. Or

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Speaker 2: he's been down and out, but I think he's can heal.

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Speaker 2: look for a multi year deal. He's got a lot

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Speaker 2: And so there's gonna be a team out there that

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Speaker 4: he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: He'sn't had any armor shoulder problems. He's had you know,

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Speaker 2: I was thinking last Ruben, I was thinking last night,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when he came, when I came to the play like,

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Speaker 7: That is I'll sell you this the fanatic when he

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Really, remember remember the time, Ruben, you probably had just

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Speaker 4: so teams that are in the race, and they don't

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Speaker 4: want to show their fans that they're out of it.

437
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 4: They got to sell tickets. They have to show people

438
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Speaker 4: that they're in this thing until they're not. And they

439
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Speaker 4: also want to try to maximize their assets so that,

440
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Speaker 4: you know, you want they want to put a little

441
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Speaker 4: heat on the teams that might I mean, all these

442
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Speaker 4: teams have the same needs. Everybody needs a bat, everybody

443
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 4: needs a couple of bats piece. Everybody needs it. Every

444
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 4: single team, there's no They're all flawed. And you know

445
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: it's about It's about you know, beauty is in the

446
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: eye of the beholder. Trades are so difficult to make.

447
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying they can't be made, and I'm not

448
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Speaker 4: saying you don't have you know, I mean you can

449
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: have the assets to get something done. But how does

450
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 4: it affect your future? How does it affect your present?

451
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Speaker 4: Does it make you a winner? Does it give you

452
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Speaker 4: a real chance to be better? What I do think, though,

453
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Speaker 4: is that when you roll out a team and a

454
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Speaker 4: lineup like you rolled out yesterday, from the fifth hitter,

455
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Speaker 4: from the sixth hitter to the ninth hitter, you're basically

456
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Speaker 4: rolling out a triple A ball club.

457
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Speaker 1: No disrespect to the players.

458
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Speaker 4: Buddy Kennedy, Otto Kemp, Johan Rojas, those guys are not

459
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Speaker 4: established major league players, and so you're rolling out players

460
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Speaker 4: who are who've had some levels of success in the

461
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Speaker 4: minor leagues, some limited success in the big leagues.

462
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Speaker 1: And can you count on those types.

463
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Speaker 4: Of players to win you a World Series against a

464
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Speaker 4: left handed pitcher that you might be facing a Max

465
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Speaker 4: freed A, you know, whoever, whoever it may be from

466
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Speaker 4: bar Valdez. I mean, and I think what they're doing

467
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 4: right now is finding out. They're finding out if bout

468
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Speaker 4: O Kemp can play left field and for a championship team,

469
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Speaker 4: they're finding out. Obviously, Buddy Kennedy's in there because we

470
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Speaker 4: don't have our first basement or the Phillies don't have

471
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Speaker 4: their first basement. But you know, I think centerfield is

472
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Speaker 4: an issue, especially from the right side. I think the

473
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Speaker 4: outfield in general is an issue, especially from the right

474
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Speaker 4: side of the plate. And obviously, you know, adding to

475
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Speaker 4: that bullpen is essential as well. So yeah, I think

476
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Speaker 4: Dave ne Browsei's gonna do what he's He's going to

477
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Speaker 4: try to do exactly what I mean.

478
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Speaker 1: He knows the situation. He's been there, he's done it.

479
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Speaker 1: He's made trades.

480
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Speaker 4: He's made big trades in the past for other organizations.

481
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Speaker 4: He's tried to do it in a judicious way in

482
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Speaker 4: the past. The question is is he really going to

483
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Speaker 4: go all out and is he going to move Andrew

484
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Speaker 4: Painter to be that guy is easy, good move, you know.

485
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Speaker 1: The shortstop? Is he gonna move, you know, all three

486
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Speaker 1: of them.

487
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Speaker 4: To get those guys, a multiple of those guys, I

488
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Speaker 4: don't see it. Necessarily, It's possible, but I just don't

489
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Speaker 4: see it.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have to move something that's gonna hurt because

491
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Speaker 3: they really need a legit bullpen guy. I know the

492
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Speaker 3: end of that game. I know the bottom of the

493
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Speaker 3: order last night really hurt them. I know Kennedy and

494
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: Rojas were all for four with runners in scoring position.

495
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Speaker 3: I know they were man handled by left handed pitching

496
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Speaker 3: all night, including the reliever hater. They need a right

497
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Speaker 3: handed bat in the outfield. We're gonna find out about

498
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Speaker 3: camp as you mentioned, but they really need a guy

499
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Speaker 3: in the seventh, eighth, or ninth inning. And I'm probably

500
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Speaker 3: leaning toward the ninth inning. But you know, whether it's

501
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Speaker 3: e Manuel Classe or eraldis Chapman, we don't think Mason

502
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Speaker 3: Miller is going to be available. I'll tell you what,

503
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Speaker 3: what's that The guy in Baltimore, the guy in Baltimore,

504
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, Tampa Bay's in it. So the

505
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: Fairbanks guys, you know, I got to think you know,

506
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: they're right there. The guy in Minnesota, Duran, he's but

507
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Speaker 3: it's gonna hurt. It's good whatever they do. They're going

508
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Speaker 3: to give up a guy who's going to play in

509
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Speaker 3: the big leagues and probably be pretty good, has a

510
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Speaker 3: lot of upside. But is that all in? I don't know.

511
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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty od. I think when you have

512
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Speaker 3: two three hundred million dollar players, one hundred million dollar player, uh,

513
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Speaker 3: you know, a forty two million dollar picture, one hundred

514
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Speaker 3: and seventy million dollar picture, one hundred and fifteen million

515
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Speaker 3: dollar I think you're all in now. Now you've got

516
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Speaker 3: to fill a big hole in the bullpen, and you're

517
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Speaker 3: going to have to give up a prospect, and it's

518
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Speaker 3: gonna hurt. And to me, that you know, means yeah,

519
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna That would be my definition of

520
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Speaker 3: going in, of going all in. My definition of going

521
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Speaker 3: all in isn't emptying my farm system and giving up

522
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Speaker 3: my top four or five prospects. It's probably, uh, you know,

523
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Speaker 3: filling one substantial need with one substantial talent and giving

524
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Speaker 3: up one substantial prospect.

525
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Speaker 4: So what I can see them doing, guys, actually is

526
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: believe it or not, and I don't.

527
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

528
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Speaker 4: I'm not big on on this, But you may be

529
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Speaker 4: moving a guy like Marshawan in a package, because Marshan

530
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Speaker 4: could be a guy that someone views as an everyday

531
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Speaker 4: tetcher maybe and he becomes an asset. You may be

532
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Speaker 4: moving multiples of different types of deal and I'm sure

533
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Speaker 4: that Dave Dombrowski is.

534
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Speaker 1: Exploring all of.

535
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Speaker 4: Them, and we'll explore all of them all the way up.

536
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Speaker 1: Until the trade deadline.

537
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Speaker 2: You look at like the names that are out there

538
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Speaker 2: for outfield help. I mean everybody would say, yeah, the

539
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 2: Phillies could use the center field, or they could use

540
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Speaker 2: a right hand and handing corner outfielder. But the names

541
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Speaker 2: out there aren't guys that you go, oh, they're gonna

542
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: go like last year Hunter pens in two thousand, like, oh,

543
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: this guy can hit for some power. He's dynamic, you

544
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: know he could. He's a right handed bat. You know

545
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: that's a he's a middle of the order bat. You're talking.

546
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Speaker 2: Here's some of the names that keep coming up. Luis

547
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Robert Junie, No thanks, Adolos Garcia. He had a great

548
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: year two years ago. Look at his numbers the last

549
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: two years not that great.

550
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Speaker 7: Uh.

551
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Speaker 2: Jared Duran from the Red Sox, he hadn't he was

552
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: fantastic last season. He has not been that good this season.

553
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Uh you know, Taylor Ward, go look at his splits

554
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: against left handed pitching. Not that good. Cedric Mullins from

555
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: the Orioles. He could play center field. But you know,

556
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: so you talk about all In, is there the all In,

557
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: big right handed bat. You're looking, Oh my god, he's

558
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: gonna protect Bryce Harper. He's gonna split up Schwarbur and Harper.

559
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. I don't know if that. I don't

560
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: think that guy is out there.

561
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Speaker 3: So you know what the guy, the guy I was

562
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: keeping an eye on a little bit was that Miguel

563
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: andehar He hit a home runs with the Yankees a

564
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: while back. He hasn't hit a lot of home runs lately,

565
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: and now he's on the I L on a little

566
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: bleak and who knows how that how long that's gonna take.

567
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: But his power numbers are not they don't really jump

568
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: out at you anymore. They're pretty uh suspect in fact.

569
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: But I mean he's on the.

570
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Speaker 4: I L left, he's not even really you started off

571
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: as a third basement they put they put him in

572
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: the outfield, but.

573
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Speaker 3: You need you need something. If otto kemp Is isn't

574
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Speaker 3: gonna be the guy right but there's not a lot

575
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Speaker 3: out there in terms of that right handed bat.

576
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I'll thought thoughts and prayers on x'es.

577
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a realistic deal that includes Andrew

578
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: Aiden Miller or Andrew Andrew Painter.

579
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Speaker 3: Miller, yes, Miller, Yes, Painter. I think they've put so

580
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Speaker 3: much time and I just maybe I'm wrong. I don't know,

581
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: but I I see him as being a you know,

582
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: pitching his first major League game for the Phillies and

583
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: being in the opening day rotation next year. But that

584
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Speaker 3: you know, Reuben ni.

585
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.

586
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: But if it's a guy that they can that they

587
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: can hold on to for the next several years and

588
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: he's an impact player, I mean I am of the

589
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: mindset endlessen Andrew Painter has a chance to be really

590
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Speaker 4: dynamic in the rotation. I'm not sure that they're not

591
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: seeing the real mick Abel right now. Can he get better? Yes,

592
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: But now you trade Andrew Paynter and the mickable Andrew

593
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Speaker 4: Paynter combination that you thought you might have for next

594
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: year that might be outstanding is gone. Then you're forced

595
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: to sign a guy like Ranger Scorrez. Otherwise your rotation

596
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: is estimated.

597
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I would not move Andrew Painter.

598
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Speaker 4: I would consider moving Able just because I think the

599
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: ceiling on.

600
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Speaker 1: Andrew Paynter is much higher.

601
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Speaker 4: And uh, while he's pitching just okay in Triple A

602
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: right now, and he's getting some yeah, he's getting has

603
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: some growing pains. There is still he's still pitching and

604
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: learning pitching at the higher levels. I'd be more aptive

605
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: move a guy like Able. And yes, I would certainly

606
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: consider movement Aiden Miller, even though he's gotta got a

607
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: chance to be a really dynamic player and and every

608
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: day shortstop down the road. If I'm going to get

609
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 4: somebody who's going to impact my team this year and

610
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: for the following years, I have to consider it.

611
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys a dumb question? Do you think?

612
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: I mean Painter?

613
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: You mentioned what they're dumb answers, not dumb questions.

614
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Speaker 4: Take a man, Take them a man who's answered a

615
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: lot of dumb questions or who's made a lot of

616
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: dumb answers.

617
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Speaker 3: So you know, Painters had, like you mentioned, kind of

618
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: some up and down at Triple A. But the talent

619
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Speaker 3: is is off the charge, right, And you know all

620
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: the the needle has been pointing towards the big league

621
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: for so long, and there's been this countdown to joining

622
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: the Phillies rotation for so long. And here's the dumb

623
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: question part. Do you think he's bored at Triple A?

624
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: Not bored, but just you know there's something missing adrenaline wise,

625
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: because he feels like he's ready and I should be

626
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: there and it's been talked about so long and he's

627
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: just I don't know, what do you think?

628
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: God, Yeah, that's a that's a great question. I guess

629
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Speaker 2: I could see that possibly, but I think I would

630
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: hope that with.

631
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: His heart somewhere else. And I know it's inexcusable. It

632
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: can't happen for an athlete. You got to do the

633
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: thing where your feet are, as they say, But I

634
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: mean he's also a human.

635
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: Being, right, But you talk right, I mean you hear

636
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: players say that all the time, Like, you know, you

637
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: try to treat spring training games like a real game,

638
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: but you know it's just that the adrenaline is just

639
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: not there, or rehab starts just not there. Right. Yeah,

640
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Frankie Montas came back from the Mets, you know, and

641
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: he was pitching terribly in Triple A and yeah, he's right, yeah,

642
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: lead exactly.

643
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

644
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: I guess there could be something to that.

645
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's something to that.

646
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: Mentally, you could probably be a little uh not into it.

647
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: But I mean, this is a kid is still growing

648
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: and still learning, and he's going to have to take

649
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: every I mean, this is part of, you know, overall development.

650
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: At some point a pitcher is going to have to

651
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: understand that each pitch means something. Each individual pitch, whether

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Speaker 2: Is this the Duran Duran trade deadline?

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Speaker 3: Is that question from Simon Lebar?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys big Duran Ran fans?

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Speaker 2: Because I was, I mean I as a as an

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Speaker 2: eighties kid, I love the Duran. Yeah, of course, so

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Speaker 2: of course Duran Duran. We're not talking about Simon Lebon, Jim,

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Speaker 2: come on, you know better now I'm kidding. It's Jared

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Speaker 2: Duran and is it Joan Durand from the Twins? That

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Speaker 2: would be Durand from the Twins would be fantastic Jared

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Speaker 2: Duran from the Red Sox. Like I mentioned earlier, great

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Speaker 2: last year All Star game. MVP All Star has a

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Speaker 2: bit of a down year this year. But what do

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Speaker 2: you guys think of that idea?

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Speaker 3: I dig the gopher.

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Speaker 1: I'll take both of them.

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Speaker 3: I take both.

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Speaker 1: I like I like both of them.

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Speaker 4: Right, he's a lefty bat, but but I like the

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Speaker 4: way he plays. He sort of seems to me like

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Speaker 4: many different things in Boston, uh in the front office there.

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Speaker 1: With Devers and all that other stuff that I think

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Speaker 4: He had an incident at one point with with you know, know,

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Speaker 4: great guy to get out of Boston and into Philly

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Speaker 4: Phillies uniform.

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Speaker 1: I like the energy of the player.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, when I started thinking about, you know,

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Speaker 4: That's why Hunter Pence was big for me because he

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Speaker 4: And I mean obviously Durant over there with Minnesota, boy,

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Speaker 1: Nice?

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Speaker 2: First, Well, the first question I asked you guys was

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Speaker 2: you got both of those two guys, because both of

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Speaker 2: those guys are under team control for several more years.

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Speaker 2: So you would be I mean, you would have to

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Speaker 2: Andrew Painter, you know, that would be an all in

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Speaker 4: So you would be you would be naked in your

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Speaker 1: Two of those two, you'd be new.

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Speaker 3: I would spend my I'd spend my big prospect capital

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Speaker 3: on a close, earthly game guy that has control years

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Speaker 3: over a center fielder. Because the kid up in Lehigh

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Speaker 3: I think is still very intriguing. You just get back

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Speaker 3: in the lineup. He hasn't lit it up, but he

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Speaker 2: Ben Tafoya on Threads and Germino on Instagram. You know

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Speaker 2: which reliever would you like to see the Phillies trade

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Speaker 2: for right now. If you guys could just make it happen,

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Speaker 2: I guess you're not. You don't have to worry about a.

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Speaker 3: Chapman. I like Chapman.

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Speaker 1: I like class, and he's been there and done it.

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Speaker 3: My Fantasy League guy is Mason Miller.

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Speaker 2: He's been down this year though that doesn't bother you. You

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Speaker 2: think he's uh, you know, he's been hit around a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the Chapman. I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: I like that idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chapman left hander, Yeah, you know he fetched all that,

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Speaker 3: he fitch all the quick tear. It's Elvarado out. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've been talking about Chapman for weeks and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: So what about the idea though that you know, Chatman

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Speaker 2: would be fantastic and you can never have too many

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Speaker 2: hypothetically you can see them move Sanchez or Lozardo into

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Speaker 2: Suarez keeps pitching like this, I would think they would

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Speaker 2: You still don't have a right handed arm really that

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Speaker 2: Romano has been so up and down, and you're gonna

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Speaker 2: move again Sanchez, maybe Lozardo into the bullpen.

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Speaker 4: Don't be surprised if Abel and or Painter slide into

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Speaker 4: the back end of that bullpen in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Both of them, even Painter with the injury history.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, I think that they'll pitch them all the

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Speaker 3: Very very very risky. I would use him as an opener,

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Speaker 3: but he you know, as a reliever. As a starter,

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Speaker 3: he can go zero to sixty and in ten seconds.

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Speaker 3: As a reliever, he has to go zero to sixty

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Speaker 3: in three seconds. I'm worried about that elbow.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry as much just because it's two years removing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Josh Jennings fan page on threads which hitters

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Speaker 2: the Phillies trade for you. Is anybody out there that

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Speaker 2: there's nobody in there that were.

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Speaker 4: An interesting guy that they might trade is Tyler O'Neill.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not a big Tyler O'Neal guy because he's

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Speaker 4: what always he's always hurt, But man, he can make

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Speaker 4: make an impact on your team from the right side.

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Speaker 1: With some power problems. Is the outfielder. But the problem

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Speaker 1: interesting name.

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Speaker 4: Again, I'm not a big Tyler O'Neill guy long term,

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Speaker 3: I was thrown around that name last winter. You got

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't they He's owned all that money.

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Speaker 2: He's on a rehabit. He's on a rehab assignment right now.

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Speaker 3: What about the other guy on that team, the other

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Speaker 3: I believe, no Loreano.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for six eight with good weeks. Flash me

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Speaker 1: I'm not flashing you not to you're not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well here here, here's here's a good Here are

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Speaker 2: a couple of names I mentioned.

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Speaker 1: It's not a terrible name because you can play some outfield.

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Speaker 2: How about this one?

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Speaker 1: You like it.

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Speaker 2: The tude.

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Speaker 2: How about this name, now, this is a name that

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00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: we talked about in the off season. We said absolutely

869
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: not because this guy is always hurt. But when he's healthy,

870
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: he is really really good. And he is healthy right now.

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00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: Uh Nichols and Dimes on X and he says, is

872
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: Ruben ready to entertain the idea? But it's really all

873
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: of us ready to entertain the idea? Is Ruben ready

874
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: to entertain the Byron Buckston option? He shot down in

875
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: the off season, but we all shot it down in

876
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: the off season because the guy has always hurt. He's

877
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: got Byron bucks You're still not there?

878
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: How many more years? Oh?

879
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: How many more years? He has a seven year, one

880
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar deals signed through twenty twenty eight Byron

881
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: so man, he is having an insane year right now

882
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Twins, who are under five hundred. I'm

883
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: sure they will have to get rid of that contract.

884
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: But I want to pay it all the way down.

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00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: If they pay it all the way down, and they might,

886
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what the AAV is on it,

887
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 4: but if they pay it all the way.

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00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: Down, yeah, I would consider it. But that's a lot

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00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: of years of il time. The man is going to

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00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: be on there at least half the time, so you

891
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: have to prepare for that. He's going to be on

892
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: the ILF.

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Speaker 2: And you're not just saying that, Rubin, because since twenty

894
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: seventeen he has played more than ninety two games one time.

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00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: One time and that was last year he played one

896
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: hundred and two games, So it wasn't like even throwing

897
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five game season. He's only played

898
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: more than one hundred two games one in his entire career.

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00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, if I.

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00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: Mean they have to be like a fifth, like a

901
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: ten million dollar player for the next three or four years.

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00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Jim. What do you think?

903
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: I think, Ruben, his sound effects and his uh gestures

904
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: were all pretty spot on. I just it's hard for

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00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: me to take on a lot of money for an

906
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 3: injury risk, you know.

907
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Right, it's a it's a definite, he's proven to it.

908
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 3: I'm any. I'm a Tyler O'Neill fan when he's healthy, right,

909
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: But it's just, you know, it's like he signs with

910
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: Baltimore this year and immediately on the on the eye

911
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: out it's just it's tough.

912
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: So I got to be on the field to be performing,

913
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 4: and you've got to be on the field to make

914
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: an impact.

915
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: If they're not on the field, then what's the point.

916
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: Totally, totally, So all right, we're gonna we have a

917
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: lot of more trade questions, some free agent questions. Maybe

918
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: we'll get back. We'll get to some of those on Friday.

919
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 2: I want to wrap up with three kind of off

920
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: the beaten path questions. Our dear friend of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: He goes by the name of Red Mustang on YouTube.

922
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: He loves he crushes us on YouTube, but he loves

923
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: the podcast, so we like, we love the Red We

924
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: love Red Mustang. He kills us all the time. Red

925
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: Mustang wants to do a favorite led Zeppelin song. Kashmir

926
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Speaker 2: omitted for obvious reasons. Do you have a favorite led

927
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: Zeppelin song? I'd say Good Times, Bad Times because that

928
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: was Roy Halliday's warm up song and that one sticks

929
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Speaker 2: out to me. That's always a good one. I gotta

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00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: ask a question of Red Mustang. Do you enjoy watching

931
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: the Phillies? It seems like you hate it.

932
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: A favorite led Zeppelins suffering through it?

933
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, good Times, Bad times to do.

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Speaker 3: Steer were heaven there you go anyway, it would be mine.

935
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: I guess Jason Allen McLain on X when Garden Talk

936
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Speaker 2: segment coming.

937
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: The garden took a big beating in the storm. All

938
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Speaker 3: my tomatoes were like mashed into the ground.

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00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: Let's discuss that on Friday.

940
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: Shall it mean the full story because I want about

941
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: thirty minutes of it.

942
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: No, I just give you real quick. The storm hit,

943
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: like all my tomatoes were mushed into the mud. I

944
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: had to get out there with like a feather duster

945
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Speaker 3: and you know when the mud died, and brush them off.

946
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: But you know, you're that gentle, You're that gentle with

947
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: your with your veggies.

948
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to spank your tomatoes. No, I'm serious

949
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: right now, when they get to a certain size shoe. No,

950
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: this is the truth. You have to spank your tomatoes.

951
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: So when the plants get to a certain size, you know,

952
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: maybe uh two and a half three feet tall, and

953
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: all the little yellow flowers start popping. Now, you want

954
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: those flowers to pollinate and start talking to each other.

955
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: You want to, you know, the bees and everything to

956
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 3: do their work. A little light wind will help pollinate.

957
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: But you can take like a rolled up newspaper or

958
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: remember those, or or or even like a stick or something,

959
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: and you can go around and kind of spank the

960
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: the stalk of the tomato and and that kind of

961
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: move them around, jostle them a little bit, and that

962
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: will help the pollination, so you'll get more tomatoes.

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00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: I love it. See what, maybe we'll we can find

964
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: a local garden center, maybe the sponsor. We could do

965
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 2: a has to bear box segment.

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00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: Has to be I'm also very very frustrated all my

967
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: sunflowers are getting eaten by a mysterious bug. I mean

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00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: the leaves are turned into mesh. And I love sunflowers.

969
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a shame. We have the same we

970
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: have the same issue. Last question, uh, Tom Robson on

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Speaker 2: Blues Guy says, Jim, your old NBC Sports Philly podcast partner,

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Speaker 2: Corey Simon has announced he's leaving any favorite memories of

973
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: your time with Corey. We all love Corey, so I

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00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: wanted to make sure to ask that question. He is

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Speaker 2: covering the team this week in Houston. This will be

976
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Speaker 2: his last series covering the team. Jim, you got any

977
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: good stories.

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Speaker 3: Of I'd have to think we we did have a

979
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Speaker 3: lot of laughs over the years, and we had a

980
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 3: lot of laughs on the podcast. I will say this,

981
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: an amazing talent and amazing person from an amazing family

982
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: and a great, great off the charts teammate. I had

983
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 3: more fun working with that guy than than I could

984
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: ever imagine. And he was a great teammate and a

985
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: great friend. I wish him well. And a funny story

986
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: on the podcast we used to do, he mentioned how

987
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: his favorite section to sit at was way high above

988
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: home play at at Citizens Back Park and he goes,

989
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 3: he looks, he says, section four twenty. I immediately said,

990
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: you see gelp up there, and that was you know.

991
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: I remember we both couldn't stop laughing, and it wasn't planned.

992
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: It was just uh, but we had. We had a

993
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: lot of fun, really sharp, sharp uh sports mind even

994
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 3: beyond baseball.

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00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to say this.

996
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: I have to say, I know what Barkhan calls him affectionately, Corala,

997
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 4: But this is a guy that dedicated to his craft,

998
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: love covering baseball, really kind, gentle human being and wish

999
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: him the best. You know, it's a decision he's made

1000
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll be seeing him around the Ballpark.

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00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: Some but great dude, and I wish him the best.

1002
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get to sit I sat next to him

1003
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 2: in the in the press boxes in Bank Park, Corey

1004
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: and we would laugh all the time and and just

1005
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: talk baseball and just a great guy to have in

1006
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: the clubhouse. Kind of you know, knew how to move

1007
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: around the clubhouse, ask great questions, you know, nose baseball.

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00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: And like I said, Jim, you you have mentioned this

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00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: many times. Tremendous teammate here was when you guys were

1010
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: both at NBC. How many times you would call him

1011
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: after posting a story and he'd be like, I'm on it.

1012
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: He'd take care of whatever issue you might have had,

1013
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: if you had the typo in there, or whatever the

1014
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: case may be. But a lot of fun talking to Corey.

1015
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to miss it next to him in the

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00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: press box. We did have a lot of laughs talking

1017
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: about everything under the sun. So, uh, Corey, good luck

1018
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: to you man. Hope to see you at the ballpark

1019
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: soon and we will be back on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Smell elated bones, right, Jim.

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